The Clubhouse Podcast

WWE TLC 2011

September 22, 2012 Season 2, Episode 60

Rob and Chad preview WWE TLC 2011, taking place December 18 in Baltimore, Maryland, from their live remote at Fox and Hound in Richardson, Texas. They break down all six matches on the card, including CM Punk versus The Miz versus Alberto Del Rio for the WWE Championship in a Tables, Ladders, and Chairs match, and discuss the card's overall quality ahead of the live pay-per-view.

About this episode

Key takeaways

  • CM Punk is described as the company and expected to carry the main event despite taking most of the bumps
  • Zach Ryder has created his own push from nothing with his internet championship, an unprecedented achievement in the business
  • Booker T is treating his Intercontinental Championship match against Cody Rhodes as his final big in-ring match
  • The Triple H versus Kevin Nash ladder match has a sledgehammer over the ring but no championship on the line, creating a convoluted gimmick match

Q&A

Where is the show being broadcast from?

Live from Fox and Hound in Richardson, Texas, just west of Central Expressway on Campbell Road, behind the McDonald's

Why was the show moved to Sunday instead of Saturday?

Rob returned to employment working second shift, so the show was relocated to accommodate his schedule

What is CM Punk doing if he is not on the TLC card?

He stated he will watch and enjoy TLC and is a fan, indicating his absence from the event

When is the next pay-per-view after TLC?

The Royal Rumble on January 29, scheduled between the AFC and NFC Championship games to avoid NFL competition

Read Transcript

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I'm begging you. It is Sunday night Running a little bit behind schedule with that's all right It is 7204 on the east coast that is 424 on the west coast It is the 18th of December in the year of our Lord 2000 and 11 That means one thing it is time the club houses on the air We are live from box and health and Richardson Texas just west of central expressway On Campbell Road. We are right behind the McDonalds.

Please come join us. We are preparing you for W-W-E-T-L-C, which is on the air in 35 minutes I am Rob Join down the club house as I am immediately to my right for those of you playing the home gaming. He is Chad good evening sir Good evening to you sir.

They make what just did this last night. We just did this week 23 hours ago Our normal show is Saturday night We have moved the show to Saturday night. I am finally amongst the employed again But I have to work second shift So we have moved the show to Saturday night because nothing stops the show We have our big 75 straight last night But of course we are not going to have a show this week because it is new because Christmas Eve.

So something does stop the show How it is? Well, we will do show New Year's Eve. So be prepared for that.

Here's what we are going to do We're going to go over a couple of headlines that we did not get to last night on the show We are then going to run the card for you. There are six matches on this card We'll break it down for you as we prepare you again TLC, which will be live in Baltimore, Maryland tonight If you cannot join us here at Fox and Hound Call your cables company call your satellite company whoever you got a call to get this paper view now If you're like dude, this is like 55 bucks at the house. I live in Dallas get to Richard said I'm coming out here three bucks get you in the door take the rest of that money by some great food We've got great drink specials.

We're here for every paper view Almost the one year marks one more preview and we've been here for a year We've had that right now. We have an ancient chamber this year was the first time we did this This is true Let's talk about some headlines real quick As we bring you the official paper view theme for tonight I had to get the clean version. I had to look for the clean version.

This is family show If you haven't seen the poster for tonight's paper view. It's absolutely genius It is probably my favorite poster paper view of the year I'm gonna do everybody in here a solid and just show it to you See I'm punk at an ice cream bar. What else do you need in this life?

Just the fact that it's got a table a ladder and a chair on the ice cream the only thing that would have made it better is if he was on the ice cream Or maybe Alberto Del Rio where the miss Since that's who he's taking. Oh, yeah with a bite out of it or something Right now to me see I'm punk is the company. Oh, yeah.

He is the company right now If he's not on that show see him. See him punk. He was right.

I'm gonna stand Because it's obviously not seen up because he's not even on the car. segue Our other three headlines are all seen. I'm sorry See that is hinting that he is not on the paper view tonight.

He has said He's not on the card as we know it. He tweeted on Saturday morning I will watch and enjoy TLC above all. I am a fan You know what this is not Me holding my breath.

Yeah, no kidding Because God knows we have to have seen on everything in the history of ever had a guy Here's a make of a special referee now Oh, you know what? Before we get on to the next thing something we forgot to talk about last night. What's that?

I know we did we talked about the debut of the network last week on the show. Yeah April 1st Russell man. Yeah, we could talk what we talked about the logo and if that was going to be Compton wider just a network.

I don't think I like that logo This next if for those of you that are anti-sina this next headline is for you Apparently and I read this about an hour before we went on air at how shows this weekend WWE merchandise stands are selling. We hate seeing a t-shirt Is it we hate seeing our scene a sucks t-shirt? Uh, scene a sucks.

I'm sorry you are correct So here's my here's my question though Is what we've been asking for for a year and a half the heel turn? Is it about to happen? Or is this just smart marketing Because this is a revenue stream because you know people are going to buy it And scene a complete is what wanted just because his name's on the dead guns thing.

I don't think Charlotte would buy it Would you put it pastor? It's a ballot point. Yeah, just because it's got his name on it It's seen a fan will buy it just for the heck of it Last headline and it's another scene a headline go to your local grocery store Apparently post-serials is doing a contest Where if you win it you get tickets to a WWE event you get a bunch of merchandise and you get a face to face with Sina Guess what serial post makes Broody pebbles so you can now get your scene a box of fruity pebbles Naturally that way if you choose to do so.

I thought that was only overseas that they were doing No, I somebody woke somebody on state side took a picture of it. Okay. I thought he said they want me to do it in China or something like that No, the box was in English.

I mean I could read it. Okay. I mean I can't read anyway, but you know Take it or come know what and he's actually not wearing his his bow tie suit But let you know speaking of the card free for all is underway.

We are 30 minutes away from TLC. We are live At Fox and Hound in a recharge zone Texas our home away from home. It really is and you know what we don't just come here for the paper abuse There's a UFC event coming the night before New Year's Eve Brock Lesnar People not be fighting Alistair Overine because the rumor is people are saying Overine's injured the rumors I am now hearing is that Overine has tested positive Dispended for a year so now your UFC 141 is it is a 142 Deposures out there.

I just can't walk that way Will now be Brock Lesnar frank mere three That was announced this weekend. I think that's a better more interesting match up to lunch But it's a Friday night. It is not because Saturday's New Year's Eve It's a Friday night paper view at nine o'clock central time for the clock on these cups.

That makes sense So let's run the card again as we say each and every month here at Fox and Hound on the clubhouse This is not necessarily the order the order the card will go in because we never know What I feel is in the from least important to most important There are six matches on this card first and foremost the United States championship is on the line Dolph Ziegler versus my new leader Zach Ryder baby You know it thought They are pushing the man created his own push and he is actually making it work No, we were talking about that earlier as I was doing setup This is unprecedented to my knowledge in this business where someone has created a push out of literally nothing Yes, as we've been gone. I'm the beaver of the WWE I put him in higher regard than the beaver. Well, I'll be buddy came about at the same way the beaver's a nice young lady But she's not Zach Ryder Does this belt change him oh so I hope so, but I don't know it's like he Ziegler's drawing so much heel heat I don't know if they take it off of him My thing with this is you have to move this belt Because you've been dealing with this Zach Ryder trying to get a true United States heavyweight championship shot for so long Unless you legitimize his internet championship belt Why can't why can't we have that on TV?

I don't know I just want the greatest belt to ball time. I'm sure it's copyright issues all the logos It's got for Facebook and YouTube on the I know I know I know they they they name check Twitter all the time They name checks winner. They name check Facebook.

They name check YouTube all the time It's free advertisement for these guys, but they don't show their logo on screen. They do like TNA does with Jared's triple a belt just put the logo with a company But then it's not it's I don't have a marking degree and I know these things I know that thing would sell like crazy if they put it out there But as much as this guy's drawing But I hope it changes hands, but I don't think it will I don't think they're gonna I don't think they want to kill Ziegler's push that way I don't think it kills the push. I think it's furthers a I just lost my train of thought that's like losing to San Tino basically But it furthers an angle it gives him a rivalry it gives him something to do a to a storyline But it it furthers one angle, but it it puts kind of the the nail in the coffin of another I think But that's what that's just me Your intercontinental championship match The IC belt is on the line Cody Rhodes versus Booker T do not adjust your counters It is not 2003.

This is really happening and from what I'm reading today Booker is talking like this is his final big match like he's he literally called this his last hurrah But not not totally just in the ring just in the ring. Yeah, but it doesn't really Should really surprise anybody. We actually thought his big hurrah have the last time you're listening last time when he was a five time Five time five time five times.

Yeah, WCW champion. So Booker not counting his reign as T and H and yeah So before you even ask me does this belt change hands? Heck no, I still think it might Why would you put the book on the belt This whole speaking English thing that I've done for 38 years.

I still can't do Why not put the belt on him and Booker comes out and snack down and goes I just came to prove a point And have it back to ornament or just give it to ornament to ornament and lead it up to your finals at the ruffle I'd be okay with that let's let this are six weeks. Let Booker go out as a champion Why not okay? I'd be okay with that.

I don't know five time five time five time five time five time If you have champion. I would like to see them do that, but I doubt that they do. I don't think does that forward thinking I don't know if they feel like they oh Booker that although I think they probably do I don't know I've been wondering that for the longest time This next match gets a little weird Triple H versus Kevin Nash again, do not adjust your calendars.

It is not 2003 We're gonna put him in a ladder match, but there's not a belt on the line But there's a sledgehammer over the ring that if you get it You can use it, but it's still a regular match. Then I get that right. Yeah, you did as convoluted as that sounded yes You did There's only one thing that could be worse in this It's one word sent three times One word said three times Pin yada.

Pin yada. Pin yada. I'm just saying special guest referee that would be another thing They would make it it's it's a gimmick of a gimmick of a gimmick match I'm very why can't we just let these guys just do a hardcore match?

I don't know great did it's still gonna be one of the slowest matches on the card Do a first blood match last man standing match you. I don't put him in a cage That's my solution for everything put him in a cage. Yeah, but that never but that doesn't always solve the problem That would somebody hides under the man somebody Padlocks it shut, you know I've just got a feeling that this match is this this is gonna be the end of this angle You think it is I'm afraid it will be That's my problem first my leader I don't know I don't know if this is the end of the angle because What scares me is that we've had this build up and after tonight is just gonna go away Is it I don't know this is I don't know you that's my fear You know they're been like the vlog a dead horse for weeks I mean this is first time company this is first time back on the ring He wants to get back in front of the camera again It was good to see a Monday night.

I'm not gonna say it was I just hate that that's what they're that that's what they decided to do with nationalities back is turn him against age. I just Just stupid to me Again, we are at Fox and how did Richard's in Texas? I now have what is the scene of sucks T-shirt look like the logo for Jersey Shore That tells me a lot So we've got a picture of it over here.

So we took a picture at the live event We are live in Fox and how did Richard's in Texas if you are within the sound of my voice come join us We always have a blast here to paper views Take Campbell take sensual to Campbell go west young man about three blocks You're gonna find the McDonald's on the north side of the road. We are directly behind it Are we are in the opposite room this is on the right side not the left side we had did we had to give some love to the Cleveland Brown fans that had their game on Is that game still going by Is it over Cleveland lost so Arizona won that yeah, okay, and you know what speaking in which for a it's been a top C-turvy day in the NFL We will talk about it Saturday night Normal show no, we won't know we won't know. We won't just do a post or something do it now Do it now get it out your system.

You're not gonna be able to think straight into you do Of course, of course, I know just pop the champagne in Miami My prayers have been answered somebody beat the green bay packers And then any wins their first game And then Carolina comes in and beats up on my dark horse team And my dolphins one about to say I'll tell you live in the pick you're leaving the dolphins out of it And that's a divisional win on the road in the form He's saying how about your bucks that's your boy talking that I've said my book and ears are bad all year I'm not gonna deny that they're terrible, but they're better than the 13th and Florida Jacksonville who will soon be the Oklahoma City Jaguar $3 can you in the door for TLC? I'm actually looking forward to this paper Looking forward to good times tonight me too me too Go out and if you're gonna watch the paper view somewhere not at home do it here in Fox and how we have our own private room We're gonna have that we're gonna the sound cranked up people getting crazy in here We've got free for all on right now Too batches left on this card that starts in 20 minutes World heavyweight championship on the line mark Henry versus Frenchy. This is a chair's match.

This is an angle. I cannot wait to see in Does anybody know definitively win Henry's contract is out? I'm thinking it's January 1 Because as we know So we get to the rumble.

Do you got another month of this? Oh, geez. This is Mark Henry's final contract He said he is retiring when this contract is up which is why he's carrying the belt currently in my personal opinion As much as I want to see this angle and I also don't know that I want to put the belt on Frenchy right now Then when do you put the belt on Frenchy or who do you put the belt on if it is at your issue?

The people have spoken sir the heavyweight championship belt on Daniel Bryan. He's got the Smackdown money in the back. That's true I just mean Just don't break the ring again That was so I was just I I think I threw up a little bit of my mouth when that happened because it wasn't natural Oh, but that's the W there was no Scott Hall to do the whole Thing in the middle of the ring either well because cuz cuz show wasn't on the outside of the ring Shake it if Frenchy can have a sumo match in the ring and it doesn't break.

That's all I'm saying WrestleMania I'm not saying I'm just saying I know And then the final match on the card. It is a triple threat match for the WWE championship It is a table's ladders and chairs match CM Punk versus the miss versus Alberto Del Rio Uh I'll tell you what where does where do we go with thisunk takes all the bumps in this match? There's no doubt in my mind But who walks out?

He takes all the bumps got the belt back. Okay. I mean Stranger things have happened.

I think he carries the belt in the WrestleMania. I hope you're right. I really do And if the rumors are I'm here in a correct it's gonna be him in Triple H That Mania I'll also heard rumors of Jericho if and indeed is him returning on January 2nd.

I don't know Then who does that leave Undertaker to face if he comes back? I think he skips this WrestleMania Just remember the streak is not 19 straight. He missed a WrestleMania I think Undertaker skips WrestleMania hits 20 when it's in Dallas in 2013 And when it happens I can go Smortist man alive That was that feedback you won't I see I heard that they had issues about getting it here getting wrestle It was because the final four was here this year next year 2013 is after that.

I Don't know I don't know. I don't I don't see him skipping a WrestleMania just to finish his career Dallas I don't know why he would do that. He's already done it once He skipped a member.

It's not 19 straight, but not to finish it here. I don't think that's really all that important I'll finish here and finish it in Texas and the 20 in O at WrestleMania. I think I surround number I don't think I don't think it matters to him where it is.

Oh, I think it does I think he just wants it to end at 20. I don't think he can win. I think I think take her nose that father time is not on his side.

Oh, no kidding He's older than you Thank you for acknowledging them with days Do we see came tonight by any chance? I think well. Here's the thing and where do you see I read today that apparently they're setting up a cane scene A program They are on the card for a post-Christmas match at MSG That is what I have read So that's why cane came back the way he did when he did where hounder takers mask.

Yes wearing his fan of the opera mask if scene is not on the card. I don't think you see cane But yes, the scene is not on the card, but like you said he may still show up right But I but again if you don't have seen I don't think you have came because it doesn't further the angle from Monday night If you have seen a then yes, there will be a can of Terry. Okay.

I'll go with you on that So that's all six matches on the card. We have 16 minutes left. We do this every month.

Oh, we missed one Orton and Barrett. Oh, yeah, well, there's a reason we mentioned tables match in the room Randy Orton. Here's my thing with Orton It's like if he's not in a title match They don't know what to do with it.

Yeah, but you said it yourself. He doesn't need a title. No, I said I he's one of those guys that I think transcends the belt with the problem that creative has is They can't put him in a decent program if it's not for about yeah So we're gonna put him in a program with weight Yeah, it enables match Barrett and he's actually an a-list or any more adults from superstars Put it on NXT but bear it back where you belong But I have a little little surprises no form of a devious match in this deal Surprise but not really disappointed Because I don't smoke anymore and I've got no reason to skip a match to go outside Well plus we're in the same room with the rest room, so it's not that far away Okay, so we do this each and every month on this show when we do the show live box and hound of bitches in Texas As the card stands right now great this card Hyper's 140 years old.

He's not getting back in the ring He's in the hall of fame. Yeah, he deserves to be in the hall of fame But there's no way he's getting back in the ring He can barely talk much less rest I give this one probably rather round what I gave some adversaries last year last month See minus That seems to be about about the part for the course for that now I Somebody asked me this earlier and I said I don't know yet because I think we need to discuss the card more before I actually put the grade on this card as I see it I am setting the bar extremely low for this card because outside of CM Punk who we have determined is the company right now There's nothing on this card that makes me go if I wasn't a box and how the Richardson Texas doing the show live and coming here to watch the paper Even if I wasn't gonna do the show, I'd still be here to watch the paper view I'm not sure I'm sending 55 bucks at the house. No I'm gonna say D plus I'm gonna set the bar wow Wow But we've got a great crowd here.

We we love coming here to watch the paper I'm looking forward to this. Don't get me wrong. I look forward to these paper views each and every month But I just think this this won't be nearly as bad as capital part Capital punishment was the worst paper view of the year by far Luckily it preceded what I believe is the greatest paper view of this year being money in the back Yeah, which we watched in this very room with most of these very people yes indeed Was one of the greatest paper view endings.

I've ever watched oh yeah in the history of ever And I've been I've been involved watching this industry for over three decades now That was the debut of the new shirt wasn't it? Yes, it was and the women not that one not that one That one but yes that one there, but that was a limited edition that actually had the Chicago and the date on it Yeah But I mean I am looking forward to the paper. Don't get me wrong I'm hoping it surprises this something's got to I'll tell you what it'll be better in the slammy Which is three hours of my life.

I will never get that I warned you. I warned you. That's why it took me four days to watch it Because I would watch it.

I mean like I literally can't watch this anymore No more three hour raw. This is my training trimming and Even though it's raining outside your next paper view Is going to be the Royal Rumble January's a twenty-nine We have six weeks because it's always the week between the aFC and fc championships in the Super Bowl So Ben doesn't have to compete with the NFL And it is a major still my favorite paper review the year usually spoke with some of the find people here at Fox and Hound We they have every intention of making sure the contract is resigned for 2012 so we will be here Very excited we we love this place Give some of the fox and how and then they've done a phenomenal job all year long. We've been here for all but one of the paper views They've done an amazing job.

We can't think them enough for let us let us come here and run our yaps for an hour a month Sometimes too We want to thank each and every one of you that have been here each and every month hanging out with us We've made some great new friends here at Fox and how we've gained some new listeners some of our old listeners have come by Don't forget to listen to our show. It is live every Saturday night, but not this Saturday We want you to go hang out with your families whether you want to or not you better do it because we have to so you'll have to I'm gonna I'm gonna be 300 miles away So I have to But we do want you to join us for a couple of hours new years Eve We will do our year and wrap-up show on New Year's Eve at eight on the east coast five on the west coast Visit our website W w w w dump the clubhouse with Robin Cody dot com because I wanted to see how long I could talk before I needed a breath Where you can get to our you stream page if you miss any part of any show everything is archived all the way back to August of 2010 because that's what we do What you do? All the show on twitter clubhouse W r n c Follow me personally on twitter.

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Yeah. I got it. I got it How you gonna do lion know as a duck though Hey, we've done teenage mutant in deterdles with my lifetime and samurai elephants Just saying that was another that was always you're killing him over here.

Look at him That's the great rob king of sitting over there. There He's got the switches tear out. He's gonna peel over that thing.

Are we ready to get settled? We are indeed so Until New Year's Eve Now officially will be the longest break this show has ever had yes So until New Year's Eve on and eight o'clock in the evening on the East Coast five o'clock in the evening on the West Coast For everybody here at Fox and how do we thank you again for being here each and every month We want to thank Fox and how and for hosting these things and putting up with us For Chad I am Rob We will talk to you on New Year's Eve Until then the club house is closed. Enjoy folks and have a way Get no way you get me ready

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