The Deconstruction of WWE Survivor Series 2024

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Yo! Welcome to the deconstruction of WWE Survivor Series 2024. We are alive.

I'm going to bring my mic down just a little bit because it looks like it's peaking on me. There we go. This is an audio format because we want you to cue up the plea while we talk about it.

Now, we can hear in our ears what's going on. We're doing things a little bit differently than we did last time. Welcome.

My name is Rob. I am the executive producer of the Clubhouse podcast and it is time for the final major of the year. Joining me for this particular deconstruction to my left is my co-host and a man who feels a lot like the gimmick match we're about to do as I do, he is Alex.

Well, at the same time, I'm just watching how we have an actual opening as if it's a real football game, baseball game, or whatever. But the idea of having the national anthem for the United States, saying in Canada, kind of feels like a nice little FU that war game sometimes tends to be. Definitely a little different.

So to my right, for giving you a theater of the mind, joining us for the first time of one of these since we've done it in this format, he is the CCO of M&TG clothing. He is LA. Welcome, sir.

Yo, yo, yo. What's going on, people? It is P-L-E-Night.

Bullard game. And here's my other thing. We just finished with the national anthem.

We don't normally get the American national anthem at a plea. It's usually God bless America. Well, remember, that was the old Vince rule.

He thought that the national anthem was outdated and old, which is why he always went with God bless America. And as we can see, there's some changes because now we have O Canada. Yep.

Just as a smack to you there, Alex. So it's like a hockey game. No, bring it.

See, this isn't a smack to me, LA. I know you haven't known me as long, but I've heard O Canada as much as I've heard the national anthem. So we'll get you lined up as soon as the disclaimer happens, so you'll know where you're at.

And we'll walk you through this entire plea, giving our thoughts. We're going to see, you know, if something's surprising happens, you're going to hear it as we do. It's this is where it's going to get a little crazy.

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All right. And this is the norm for the plea correct for the last few years since we've had a women's war games The women's has opened the last few years. I know last year they did because last year we had we had the Punk ridden along with Orton right at the end Yes, before was the bloodline unity thing.

Yeah, that was that's true Years ago was when they fully accepted Sammy. Yeah, I think it was three years ago was the last time the women's closed the show Okay And that was the first That wasn't an NXT Well, you saw the fun fact on this one regarding one of the women's competitors. Yes Well, let's let's get everybody lined up right now going through the aisle into the Rogers arena apparently We're not going to get the disclaimer You are currently inside the arena.

Is this so line it up correctly? Here comes a rear-ripply and the face team. I'm sorry.

I thought that was a Jusso interest for a minute because it showed that you know That that is it was very similar to the use of entering kind of surprise We didn't get the drone thing if we're going to do it that way. Well, we're just opening and give it give it a while So why are why are we going back to show them when they arrived? Yeah, this is they showed this footage in the pre-show Everybody are right.

My favorite part about this is Naya who has always played the self-centered role Coming in wearing the new Chelsea Green shirt love the new LA night shirt. Oh, that's not new. That's an old new S Yes, okay.

Well, yes, but it's been month. Yeah, I think it's a L.A. Washington Well, but I think it's the first time we've had it that close to camera.

Well, hey, Missolo's not wearing red. That's Cracknickly. I believe that looks like a certain material wrong.

Maybe he's that is beautiful Should I tell you look at the solo chain? Is that what happens when you get in the new blood? Well, you know team is a beautiful thing Why and there he is.

Did you just say team moves? Oh, I didn't know. I wanted to clarify the team who traveled team Give it on by the team who bloodline is keeping it on brand Yeah, this is the same exact entrance as they showed in the pre-show or like right to beginning of the pre-show by the way And L.A.

and I were talking about this as we were waiting for Alex to get here called out No, I mean you were you had some business to take care of. It's not a problem. Yeah AEW 90-minute pre-show 30 minutes of panel time and an hour of matches TNA 30-minute pre-show as they did last night on Samoa number one.

All right. Oh, yeah 30-minute 30-minute pre-show with one to two matches WWE two hour pre-show no matches At that same time, it's that aspect that we've come to know because we used to always get what three to four on the kick off quote unquote. Yeah, at least two per hour And I feel like there's there's something that happened that we're not remembering right now why they just said now you get nothing for free You know what they should have gotten if they try to push this angle with the final test man The why it's why not put that on the pre-show or is it because they don't want to show the arena to empty because here's the thing and That's a valid one on your way here the panel in the pre-show was outside the arena which has been the norm But in Vancouver yeah at the end of November but who was on that panel it started out He's no biggie of course a biggie and and Wade Barrett were the constants.

Okay, well what I wanted to establish is Wade Barrett comes from a land that tends to be cold and rainy Biggie has a lot of meat to keep him warm. I'm betting Jackie Redman's on there because Canada and then you had Your least favorite on your least favorite commentator which one can I make note that brazen Reed shirt is pretty dealt with the whole tsunami No, it really is that you're that really isn't amazing. I get it.

It was a Rosenberg. Oh Yeah, Rosenberg this because here's the problem. It's you there Sam Roberts or Rosenberg in both of them are now while we're watching the intro now to the actual plea we need to put this out there Going into survivor series Two weeks before it happened you said on our live show You predicted Heyman coming out on Smackdown bringing punk with him to the tee You have also predicted that tonight punk pins brazen Reed correct.

I've said that that would be fun But I honestly think the result will be the reverse I was saying that if they wanted to tell that story having punk pin brazen Reed to win war games Would be a great way to push Seth Rollins over the edge and back into heeled him and I want this I'm willing to so I Honestly, I'm having a hard time because Spoiler alert for predictions possibly I kind of think new bloodline wins tonight No, and we build into hold on a second and and we build into the fantasy booking I had of the rock being behind the Islander bloodline in ousting solo It's just if it happens the way I said before both of the things are on the table of Seth going crazy and then the other one being Rock leading the new bloodline and solo is a man on his own well and LA and we're also talking about this and the reason I believe in your fantasy booking Is because it doesn't hurt either bloodline because it's the two guys not even involved in that angle so It protects both sides of it LA. I Don't think because of wrestling logic right. I don't see the new bloodline winning tonight Because they have one basically each of the wars or should I say the battles of the war leading dating back to what did they win bad blood?

Yeah, I thought that they lost but Okay, that was the blood blood. Okay, so that might have been something else. Yeah, they've been taking ails every week So I just feel like it's time for that closure of let's make it even with just this one victory even though the wars far from over Okay, as we get started with the women's survivor series war games match out Alex you had a stat for this or a fact So one of the women in this war games match has been in every iteration of war games within the WWE umbrella.

Oh, I don't think you're gonna have to guess you're gonna know But go ahead LA It's only one of them only one of them It's been in every war game in all of the women's WWE. Well, I guess all of the women's war games matches because that didn't happen before the company you are correct I'm gonna go with I'd never say I hate Montez Ford, but I can understand being very jealous of him. There is Bianca Belair I'm gonna say Bailey incorrect I've got it's one of two.

Oh, see I thought you knew this because I thought we had talked about it It's either who we currently see on the screen in Bianca Belair or Or make a guess sir I'm gonna go with EO sky it is EO sky Nicely done. It was one of the two of them because they both would have been in NXT at that point Bianca as they just put up on the screen saying fourth war games match is among the leaders for most times competing in a war games match and the party is already coming under but I want to say EO well We were still waiting for that turn Because I still think that is the turn that is coming but Bianca's turning. I believe we're going to go back to the Heelish EST that we had in NXT that we were all big fans of Here comes Naomi a lot of lasers.

Yes, then what is on her head does she have a light up? Oh, it's her birthday Is it oh well happy birthday? Happy 37th birthday to Naomi.

No, she does not There is an outfit right there. It does not look like she's finally wearing the light up sneakers It looks like those are regular. No, she just have them.

It's all there. Yeah, no, it's it's not it's not jibing with the Correct. I know I was gonna say with the black light that they're using for the neon glow Now I can't I you know what that would be interesting.

I just think it would be a odd placement for the heel because Yeah, you don't see it coming and you kind of like the heel turns when you don't see them coming But Bianca is kind of like the John Cena the one. But would you like me to fantasy book or what to explain my fantasy booking on that? So we have Jade written off I don't know if you wanted to talk about this later.

She is legit injured and he's expected to be gone for at least three months So Bianca is little wrestling. Yes, she does She's gotten a lot better. She has gotten a lot better, but I understand where you're coming from but Bianca Was in the match when her body was discovered.

I Think you have Bianca leading a new women's stable That involves the women from metaphor The women of metaphor are on my Suspectalist. Yeah, but I think that what pushes them into it is you're gonna have Bianca Telling lash. No, no, you did this the right way.

You came up through the program in NXT just like I did Jade cut the line to go straight to the main roster and they're gonna tell the story that way So my other suspects in this are also a tag team Because it's not your Actually, I liked it. She's coming out looking like the house of black. I was gonna say this looks like a house of black things I like it.

It's buddy Murphy's outfit. It is They both did really and everybody Murphy did the stomp absolutely. Yep, they both did each other.

Okay, so do you want my stupid? Oh, no, please finish Rob. I don't want to interrupt There are two people that are kind of written out of this deal right now that I think we'll have legitimate beef when they come back as a tag team and it's the other half of Damage control.

Oh You mean Asuka and Dakota Kai. Well Dakota Kai is technically kind of back But what I think you're going to have there is we're gonna try and lean into damage control becoming a face faction To oppose Bianca. Bailey having the word war shaved into the side of her head.

Mm-hmm. I like This transition of Bailey coming out of that whole Aztec warrior princess thing she was doing. You mean the Egyptian.

Yes. Yeah, with the no, no, no, I just want to clarify You're on the right path. Yeah, I like this version of Bailey.

I like the I'm on pad Bailey. I like any version of Bailey I'm huggerish, but I'm not hugging. I like this that whole Like you said Egyptian war princess thing.

I wasn't digging that See I was okay with it because I understand them leaning into how she was dressing the motif of it Trying to do something different without leaning too far into it now The quick note I have on that she went back to role model. I do like role model. Yeah, dear god ria But if she if ria ever goes like super face for whatever reason I really want them and this has been stuck in my head for a while So I apologize in advance because this will only matter to me pause you not accepted I figured that would be the case I need ria just one time to come out to want you bad by the offspring I cannot hear that song I cannot hear that song without thinking solely of ria Ripley Can we make note of my ejects and her amazing Weight lost journey that she's done.

I thought you were gonna say hair. No, no. She's always look great That's the Whitney Houston.

I want to dance with somebody video hair. I'm sorry. How does that go think about the dance with somebody a couple couple higher Yeah, I got that Settles for you Tight you could tell what religion I mean look she literally naya has always been a gorgeous woman Oh, yeah, the problem is is that they do no favors for her.

I was saying this early too We do have you on record Alex of saying naya's gorgeous for a big girl. So you might no no I have said I have said I don't have issue with her being a big girl I like her in any way shape or form Except for that five head something a couple a couple of notes for this match I love Candice Lorraine. Don't get me wrong But to me she's the thumb at the finger part.

She's here to eat it She's here to eat the pin or whatever I also think we could have a really cool moment Oh, by the way, they're all matching unlike the face team by the way Well, I have you also noticed the other thing like naya doesn't quite fit Candice Lorraine came out looking like a witch Tiffy is coming out like evil dorothy. Oh, it's good point. Um, she's the wizard now Candice Lorraine is she's giving me the Boring chaos the boring excitement of Kofi Kingston when he was kind of in that middle of leaving the I'm not from South Africa.

I'm really from Boston the dude. I thought you were from Boston. Yeah the transition She's giving me that and please can we stop doing whatever we're doing with sunglasses that look ridiculous on brichelle It's so stupid What I was saying is we could Potentially have a really cool moment tonight This to me is the one Type of match That you wouldn't see a cash in coming from that's a good point.

Yeah, so the thought process that I have here Is faces win Have their moment in the ring oh naya's gonna. Oh, okay. Oh, I am surprised Oh, that's and Ria's had 18 her team per her team has 18 total lives with nine but This would be the moment faces are down and like let's say Tiffany takes the pin Naya is blaming her for the loss You give live the opportunity to hit her with the briefcase and go You're welcome You think that Candice is gonna come to her age.

She also turns on naya turns that into a tag team naya now back on her own now The question I have for you is it more or less likely for that to happen Because we didn't see the briefcase because Tiffany didn't bring the briefcase like it has to be planted at the ring At the desk something of that aspect to do that But I think it lays into your fantasy booking of a cash in Better because it's already out of sight out of mind And that's and that's what I think that this would be if I were to book this I think it would be a prime opportunity no pun intended because the branding is back on the mat Oh on both yeah But I think it's a great opportunity that it is under the ring you start to bring the ring up So Tiffany can get out of there grab the briefcase from you've been bringing the cage. Thank you. Yeah No, I just wanted to clarify I want to compliment you you really help in Alex out with this thing called podcast That was a Silly point.

He just made awesome point. Thank you. I appreciate that very much.

I'm not But Alex does a great job on his own. I'm not congratulating Alex. I'm congratulating you for helping Alex right But Doc's not here so that you don't have to have an adversary.

Oh, I don't so it's L.A The world is L.A.'s adversary. I'm the Cory Graves of this show. Okay.

No wonder you're dressed so poorly No, that's I will say and I will agree with L.A. The jacket that Cory is wearing. It's pretty slow Now I know hold on hold on a second.

It has a good sheen look But when it sits still all you see is basic night camo He's not barring sex in it out there. Come on No, no, barring sex and dress as well You leave that fall of favor former gator great along Boyd is going to do a program. Hey, what do you expect from a Florida gator?

Hey That that game is happening tonight too. I know it is. I will tell you this.

I gave I think I gave Rob credit for barring when he had I think it was a black suit Some type of charcoal. I want to say that was the hall of fame. Wait and the pink the pink.

Yes. Yes. He showed with sharp that night He was sharp that night.

I don't like that. We have the constant clock on the screen. I don't have anything I appreciate it Because we know it's for real time But I like it when I we don't Yeah, like let me know to pop it up in 30 seconds You know, you know, we're not going to give it at the rumble because nobody at the rumble knows how to tell time Oh, no, they do.

They just don't care. You're also they're just like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, go to the spot And then they're like okay, the spot will see it run the clock Now what are and now does this Naya leading does this feed my fantasy booking because now she's at the disadvantage and the entire match That that is an excellent point LA I would I think that it's always better when The champ is the last one to go in because you kind of like yeah, I'm the champ, you know Let me wait to go in last and be fresh and all of that Now remember you have two champs on that one team So you have the champ you'll you'll have one champ open one champ close Well, that's what uh thinking the idea that Tiffany's going to cash it on night Interesting use of vali taking off the gauntlet and using it as a weapon nice Oh the arm sleeve. Yes.

Yeah If it was armory would be a gauntlet that's all I can come up with now the Now the interesting thing is is the the reason I think you have naya actually opening this Oh, yeah, but vali can make anybody look good naya has been getting infinitely better but If you were to pick somebody in this match to not be able to come in hot and pop the crowd Who would it be in the words of book or tea if you gonna take that bet off of you here some you big enough You bad enough you better be big and bad enough take some LA just went into business for himself The only person on this panel that can do that No, he's not he's the only person who should there's a different also fair Oh, yeah, but seriously is naya not the one that you're like she's not gonna run down She's not gonna like come charging in but that her Stalking her way to the ring if she came in later kind of plays into it I kind of feel like that goes the opposite direction because if you have her stalking to the ring He she's a member whether we acknowledge it or not. She is a member of the bloodline Which means she would need 15 minutes to make it to the ring But we also want to say a quick shout out because this is this is actually the first deconstruction Available to people lieutenant level and above right here. It's yes The efflant see a sunset lounge DFW So thank you for being a lieutenant or Our higher member of the empire We would love to hear from you and your thoughts because we've got we've still got turning point We're gonna try to do next weekend.

We have deadline That's right two weeks after that we have final battle We can't after that we have worlds end and we're going to try to do this with as many of these programs as we can Because we want we know that you're spending your hard-earned money to be up this the level of the empire We want to make sure we're making it worth your time. The birthday girls. I know she still hasn't taken off the birthday hat Yeah, I got a feeling that the hat's gonna come into play.

I think she's gonna like she's gonna take it off And there's gonna be brass hunts under it. No, it's gonna be the unforgiving cardboard We have a toilet. She's gonna do the spear with the we have they had as a unicorn.

We have a matching Uh, they have a matching kendo stick. Oh, we we do have a very sherbet. Why did level?

Oh, there goes that head off. Yeah And there is nothing into it in it confirmed L.A. You are For for lack of a better term one of our fashion experts on the show.

I think that was a great term Naomi last night was that a toilet seat she was putting in I said that yes. Okay. I missed I didn't catch that until just um Naomi has some amazing things that she does with her hair.

Okay last night one side of it was yellow with smiley faces. Yes How long does that take to do? Because I really don't know because I'm fascinated between her Mercedes and Monet that does kind of the same thing Well, with consideration that this is not the rear hair and that they're definitely wigs So I'm not sure if The person that she hired took their time to So maybe there's multiple wigs in a in a catch if you will It only makes several and she just keeps them.

Okay, that's fair. Okay. Okay, okay I've seen how they do that and it's awesome before we get too far away.

Can we acknowledge the Super pro moment by Bailey With Naomi up on the turnbuckles getting ready for a move. Bailey. Oh, I'm so hurt Just sticking her foot out and just casually rolling the kendo stick with her toe out of the landing You know what I'm here for that Yeah, I think I also liked Jacob Fato's Spot of J.

Uso and then he checked on J. Uso to make sure he wasn't Another one of the weakest kendo stick shots I've ever seen to set it up for dying to take it away So one of the things that has started becoming a thing is Jacob making sure people are okay Because a few weeks ago he did a dive into the time keepers area and accidentally kicked one of the Medical crew, okay, and it was Let's be kind and call it an older woman And they they for some reason the camera guy just focuses on Jacob. He's just like I'm sorry.

I'm so sorry I'm so sorry. I'm sorry. Are you okay?

I'm sorry Did you know just constant pro now mind you this is also the same man that rob and I have seen Take my beer and do a moonsault off the railing at gillies while hammering the last of my beer that happened In a title match Let's let's also talk keep it keep an eye on your volume because you're peeking real hard when you do that. Sorry. I'm getting right up on the mic.

I'm used to it um With the faces having the woman advantage Has that not happened more often than it does in the men's because the men's almost always the heel gets the man advantage I feel like we have this conversation every year and they've done a good job of swapping back and forth okay now The reason that we had it as far as the story last year was because oh was Randy going to be there Evening the odds will be Candice Lorraine getting in front of her teammates much to their dismay see what I did there I'm a poet and I didn't even know it but my feature show it because they're long fellows Candice Lorraine now going for more plunder don't be mean she's got a couple of chairs For a conchareto perhaps I miss the decorated chairs One chair to know there's two She's also looking under the right for more plunder. She's trying to find the briefcase or a multi-chair to so now also understand that now that we come on Wow At this point Remember at this level in the game we're down to three minute intervals versus five in the beginning. Yes You know what I really would have liked them to do just for the humor sake Make it two minute intervals and have it released with like the sound of the penalty box opening.

I'm here for it I love how softly they swung the chairs but it was no for the fallout Yeah, there's been a lot of slow spotted this is been well And here's the other funny part you saw Naya wind up to swing a real chair shot and then realized oh I'm about to hit my friend in the head. Let me just casually like Slapper on the butt with it. I like that spot.

You looked away Candice took Naomi and base Naya was holding the chair And Candice launched her head first at Naya while Naya was holding the chair So basically like when we get the turnbuckle head. Yeah, yeah, no, I like that And we always want to call out creativity because we've often said when we see the same thing over and over again It gets dull no matter how fancy I mean, you just made another great spot Naomi on was on all fours Candice jumped off of her back at Bailey and performed a front backbreaker. I can't remember what it's called Uh, the backstabber.

No, from the front. Yeah, no, no, the ricochet or the recoil or the The was Jericho's one called the boat breaker. Yes, you are correct And I feel like I need to remind you that's the side I can see but you were looking this way.

Oh, no, no I can I can see the TV much easier. It's it's y'all I can't see Would it be easier for you and L.A. to switch places because it's totally okay Okay, it's also on my working the audio from my tablet.

No, where has the big screen has Yeah, and I'm only like a half a second off, which is no, I'm totally good with I was I'm always willing to help the handicapable Wow Hey, I focus on the capable Okay, when we have a a a chair bridge Are we doing the mini the one D3D yeah, and Nia jax interrupting it But now setting it back so she and Candice can set Bailey up for the spot say 3d anymore sir 20 All right, you can say what you want. I will say what I want. I thought one D was a boy band It's both.

Oh, okay, Candice with the with the moons. Oh and missed it No, no, no, no, she she came across high Kemper hands down to protect everybody involved based on the chairs But five seconds to the advantage and it looks like it's going to be Bianca Belair will be third in for the face team classic joke that you guys miss No, go ahead But you know, you said he says both I did the parking back to the middle like It's Let's taste great taste and that's going well fat milk Let's see Bianca Belair now getting the prerequisite he's hot Well, because I think we just saw Tiffany Stratton's kendo stick that's waiting for later, too This is like can aren't we contractually obligated to have a fire extinguisher in this match? I don't believe so any match that has over eight participants has to have a fire and we have a table for the first time I like how they're designing the tables better.

I was gonna say they're so gimmick I was going to say the exact same thing where you you can tell it's gimmicked But only if you know where you're looking right I just always remember when public enemy came out on nitro and there was so much tape on the table But they tried to hide I really want you to clarify that you don't mean the rap Johnny rock and Johnny grunge and rock a rock um and it was so taped They had they tried to make up for it by like taping the WSW and I was like guys come on Would that also be the same public enemy that was the nasty boys? No, no, no, no three minute warning. Ah, sorry Three minute warning wasn't even the same guys Well, no, no, no, when they first did the three minute warning It was it was pitched for public enemy and then they went with somebody else because they got fired Right, but that was rosy and Jamal right, but what I'm saying is it was a really supposed I didn't know that it was supposed to be public enemy At least I like that phrase.

I like that it wasn't either But that's what I read because it was that aspect of them bringing in people Renaming them. I'm not saying I don't believe you. I've just never heard that.

So I learned that I'm saying I don't believe no, no, they didn't want to be three minute warning. They wanted to stay public enemy as your adversary I'm saying I don't believe you can be your adversary, but you're always going to be my friend L.A. Harts to YouTube buddy Fingergun emojis We've got got some teamwork here by Naomi and Bianca Bella Harts shots to the dome of Nia Jax to the dome I like how Naomi's like I'm tired of swinging my hand at this big thing of hair I'm just gonna use my foot see who's next for the heel team Oh, I like I said I Maintain when I said open with a champion finish with the other one Okay, what what would just happen here the timer ran out nobody's coming to the ring.

Oh, we've just read History okay, maybe there's something wrong with the timer I think they wound up showing the wrong time in the event you very possible also die has to hold the chair Yeah, here hold this chair girl. Let me hold this three feet in front of my face. That was rough All right up next for the heel tee Tiffany Stratton Because like you said one champ finishes and of course Live being the more healish champion of course is going to save herself for the end Where's her kendo stick as Alex saw earlier.

Oh no, well now I'm wondering if they're gonna have somebody else because it was bright pink And she is not dressed in the ring forgiving aluminum aluminum. That's right. That's fridge Oh, it's another thing in the pre-show they actually interviewed Regal and he got to say it Although he didn't he drag it out so bad at this right now.

Yeah, this is a little rough. What it's Okay, Tiffany's giving it a shot, but it's not going well. I almost said it's women Oh, yeah, that that would be L.A.

That said that for the record You want to talk about somebody else that has improved exponentially. Hey, I ate my big big thing of crow on On Tiffany Stratton months ago. That was a horrible.

Oh my god I mean that was she has come a very long way in the last 12 months alone You know what I like to match with her and make you think yes, she was very good call also a question for you Alex because we talked about this earlier tonight Becky Charlotte both or neither I Say neither I think you'll have I think you're going to have one at the rumble, but I think you the other one you'll have is at Saturday night Which one comes back at the rumble For the rumble. I think that's Becky. See I was the other way.

I said just because Charlotte's cut the rumble been kind of her thing Well, I would I would argue that they have been equally Charlotte and Becky Because you think about it. Didn't Becky beat or win the rumble before Charlotte? Yeah, but I always I always if I have to equate one of the two also sonic three being a sponsor as is Diablo 4 Uh only one star and key on a reef.

Yes. Uh I always equate it to Charlotte. Maybe it's because that was the first time I ever called both winners and so that might be it Well, allow me to also say why I can't give Charlotte credit.

She ruined the rumble for me It's like oh, let me go cash in on NXT, and I was like I feel like that that's cheap. I think um I think the bigger pop you're gonna get If that's well rumble would be Becky. I think the bigger pop period's gonna be Becky.

Oh, I agree I think it's gonna be Becky, but do you want me to explain why I think it's Becky at the rumble? Go ahead Not really. We'll go ahead.

I know you wouldn't She gets the Cena return The number 30 the number 30 from MSG. She's gonna lean down. That's a hundred percent what I was I wish I wish you guys then she does the Riverdale.

Were you there that night? Were you at my house that night? Is this the AJ styles?

I want to see when Cena returned and Charlotte almost jumped through the ceiling off my couch because I wanted it to be Frenchy. Yes Okay, five minutes until the advantage five seconds. That's what I meant.

Rob was calling Frenchy the whole night, too And it is Eosky so your last two at this point will of course be Rhea and live because that's your feud. Can I ask why? Well, we still have Raquel so we could be wrong there Can I ask why wrestling logic that Everybody just forgave damage control just because Bailey you just answered your own question Up Eos got the kin and it's got a string inside it.

So we're gonna do this spot for the third time Yeah, but she's got to put it on her back so she can climb the cage with it now Oh, so she's not gonna have it fed to her this year. Yes But she's gonna enter the cage that way. Yeah, so why not?

Yeah, because Isn't damage control the reason why Bianca guy hurt etc. Love the things and Well, that but that's the story they've been telling is that she doesn't want to do it. That's why I think it's the reverse That's why I think it's Bianca leading the women for metaphor Against damage control.

Can we just recognize the corners of the cage having the the grip for them to stand on so that it's not so slick. Yeah, did you see why? JD McDonough had a heart attack last year when they were setting him up for the super arch a.o And both he and Sammy slipped and Sammy almost fell off.

Oh dear That's why he was just straddling the cage at the end of last years and was like I'm not moving Oh a couple of unstable signs of the crowd Because why wouldn't it be? Yeah, it's candid Yeah, but I just did the whole logic of the damage control they didn't make any sense You mean lack of logic. Yeah, slap during your butt because you may be missed.

They're laughing about it I messed up I give you a smack for Johnny Media or time for you. Nah Oh, this will drop. It's it's always with it with EO and the John Wu drop kick.

Here's my thought process They wanted to leave it up there because she's not gonna do that spot till everybody's in the ring. Well till she has enough crash pad Yeah, right Similar to when we all saw ricochet in one of that one of the first couple where he was gonna do the the double moon salt I Got a reversal there Do you think that to remember is that what's in our ears? The listeners can't hear so they'll just be dead spot Yeah, that's also there Well, they are both a gymnastics in background accomplished gymnasts Oh, so stomping your feet out As I could personally attest to when you stomp like that.

It does hurt your knees. Yeah, was he grabbed her foot Well, I'm waiting for EO to just give up and start swinging any weapon to be like this is how Joshi's do it and it's like no this hurts Down to 20 seconds before we have the numbers evened up Which I think we're all in agreement. We expect we're keld to be next right yes L.A.

Yes, absolutely And five four three two one Now what did it have been funnier if Raquel just pulled her out of the cage We'll go she had to stop to give the give the flutter rooster Not or be caught Terry Taylor. It was more of the wicked thing. Oh, is that what that is yes I have not watched it, but I am aware of it So you're wicked aware Well, remember I was talking about the wizard of Osmo teeth to the entire heel team You are a motif Thank you I think maybe and case you didn't know the post show immediately follows the main event Is that when the show ends and they get to the post show so in the in the pre show they did the top 10 survivor series moments of all time last year was number two And I was a little upset because I wanted them to pull the bottom third out and show it to you to everybody like you and I saw it last year Yeah, where the where the logo comes up and I was I was telling L.A.

That story of I was so mad You were shoes on walking out of my living room complaining up a storm because of how bad of a plea it was And then we just like living color hits and I'm like I'm sorry hold on a minute. It was a bad plea Oh, no, it was still a bad plea, but it was a great ending. It was like It was like wouldn't a town down under called it.

It was bad plea with seeing And they also had certain people giving their fantasy bookings for survivor series and our truth just picked like Every Samoan that makes sense and had an extra man Yeah And when they put them all on the screen, he's like lurking in the background and he called them justice It's saying it was just us Yeah, that makes sense and then a town down under it is how Gary Sheffield named his son So a town down under just put Trish Stratus on their team. Yeah, I understand and you also had a couple of really good video segments Apparently getting ready for this new day Gaming surgery on Monday night They went to headquarters with the with their ice cream bicycle And we're just throwing ice cream literally throwing it at people. They walked into a border like a meeting room So they were they were seeing them punching it the whole way and then decided they were just gonna play video games on the big screen on the Sixth floor and they actually had a race around the ring on the six floor on the bike Which Kofi Kingston did in the least amount of time now to clarify you have predicted that the face team will win this match.

That is my official for LA Um Yeah, it will it plays into everybody's theory about the cash in so but I'll still go face. Yeah, and here comes Rhea Ripley again I will never hate buddy Murphy, but boy do I feel jealous of him Rhea is is hot. Rhea giving her salute.

There is some man with that mask Rhea got some hot and you know what the fact that she owns a mic the way she does now versus NXT is amazing confidence confidence is sexy No love for the Stephanie if I care reference, but that's okay. No, no, no I heard it, but we were already been complaining about gimmick infringement with them doing the super collider I don't want Rock Hill to equally as terrible as a op and am I wrong for that? I don't want Rock Hill to ever talk Just don't do no mic no issue as the person who had to go to bat for Raquel before she was Raquel You're right.

I don't want her to talk, but let her continue to just be great in the ring. Yeah, stay the female version of diesel. I'm fine with that Kevin Nash is somewhere going what just happened.

He's like, why did I take a straight? He's like, I was in the wolf pack to sir. I actually watched a wrestling with regret classic pay-per-view that had Oz on it.

Yeah, they were way too close for that spot I think they were worried about her slipping Oh, the Bianca's braid is now officially just not going the ring That's hilarious would that be because the match actually doesn't start until it gets in no here's how it here's how it is She walks into the ring and then just walks out and shuts the door, but she stands on the steps Because she can't is she the her team isn't disqualified if she's just standing on the steps. Oh, there's no dequeue though Well, no, no, no, remember they had to add the stipulation because there's no roof that if somebody leaves the cage their team is disqualified What if all the wheels are laid out by the time the buzzer goes off and everybody's just waiting The toilet see all the more reason for that all the more reason for her to like just put one toe into the ring And then shut the door outside. Bianca just spun around not really that realizing that Candace Laurie was right behind her And Candace took the braids straight to her face.

Yeah, but if there's any if there's anybody in this match That's tough enough to take that. It is Candace. But wait, that's not even worse than when Bailey took that Oh my god Where the whole arena just You mean the one against Sasha Banks where she had the mania where she had the last duration across her incredibly tiny torso I'm when we're gonna get them we got the what is the mask in the going away because I'm I don't know I kind of want to keep the mask.

I'm kind of over it. Especially if you're dressing it up. Oh, she's just waiting for live now I like this call.

He rose never did that the look on Well, he was dashing. That's different But then he became the form. No, no, no, no, he's he he was dashing She's demonic Live is definitely taking her time.

I still make oh shenanigans Yeah, well, he's been there the whole time. That's all that. Yeah For those that playing the home game that are new back in the way that are new to this who stops her Somebody's got to stop her.

This might be your Charlotte or something Well, it's Becky would be the right one because she's the one that's saying Becky's retired. Yeah now Okay, it's a and of course because this is women's war games. It's a softball bet Oh my god if she swings in it Ria hits her in the mask and we just hear this loud ding how happy is without one of you is that gonna be I like how the horns are like tight to her head.

Yeah, it just looks cool Well, here's the other part somewhere lucha source is going man I'm not the best at this anymore get well lucha source He's out for a little while. They're not sure when or if he's gonna come back and the match beyond It was like it was like pneumonia to the end Love it. Love the announcement Mortal Kombat What what what would gender bent Shao Khan be named?

She-con perfect. Oh And L.A. gets his request very quickly and now it really is definitely the curve.

Yeah, but it looks cool. Yeah, it's us Thank you Ria. Oh, man.

There's a there's a tandem. I already got the Riptide lined up, but Naya stops it Thank you, Ria. There's a tandem.

I wouldn't be able to pick between that's a rough. You look so fine Ria. Thank you so much for taking it off I still maintain More annoying than lives laugh probably live in general.

Yeah, okay fair point Oh, that was it. That was a serious spot with the bat. Oh right in the Well, she's getting there from the part that's less velocity in the man, but still I got a funny feeling that bat is very much more withle ball than anything else Yeah, cuz it's already bending.

She did it like this. She did it like that. She did it with a withle ball bat.

So And Candice Lurray with the most aggressive cuddling We have handcuffs. Oh, and they're black. So they're on they're on brand live you weren't supposed to bring those out Meanwhile doms in the back going oh, that's where they are But isn't this kind of contractually obligated at this point?

And I don't care what anybody says about dumb because Dom had Ria and I has Leo. He is one of the dopest guys and his actual wife Well, I saw he didn't interview with Who's the guy that's doing all the interviews right Chris van Chris van Blee Where he asked about the chicken tandy thing? Yes, and Dom was like oh no, that's real Everywhere we go.

I have to have chicken tindies everywhere. And I think it's hilarious I still take issue with the list that recently came out of top wrestlers under 30 that had Dom at number one now don't get me wrong Dom has come leaps and bounds beyond the way Tiffany Stratton has as well. Yeah But Ria Ripley falls into that category and you she was at like fifth or sixth It's like she's number one and I don't care who else is on there.

MJF is number two That's the end. That's all I care about. Dom can be three Daily nice you know what MJF is the epitome of Mike skills get you as many days off as you want Well, the funny part is is you know what he really feels like to me and I'm expecting them to lean into It's like oh, I got my big contract.

That's why I have the tattoo now. I don't have to try. Yeah But I mean that his Mike skills have gotten him nights off like this has gotten him millions too And we have not had the use of the fire extinguisher yet.

Oh wait. Oh my god I want them to run at each other on top of the cake. Oh, no, I don't I want that awkward.

Oh everybody get in position Oh, they're both getting jump onto the other. Okay, so we're gonna have a Tiffy salt Tiffy salt and the prettiest moon salt ever and the EO The EO survivor cells the EO war game spot is we're gonna call this I'm still trying to figure out why it's why the can is painted purple and yellow for her I mean, it's kind of the motif. She's working in the trunks a little No, it is, but I feel like there should be a reason for Oh, no tiffy spacing forward and everybody's Why is Naya catching dick never mind.

I'm not even gonna try and think through this you're really you're overthinking that one particularly Yeah Oh Okay, I'll give him that so Tiffy does a modified swan ton heo does a over the moon salt and what I like is both of them did it on to members of their own team So it wasn't but it was a majority of the opposing team too right. Yeah, I have so there's there's there's a reason for them to be standing Here each other as if they were scrapping and you and you know how much I don't like that spot But I appreciate you and I both yeah When it's done right it looks amazing, but it's so rarely done right now to clarify for anybody that Wants to know what we're talking about the big dive whether it be to the outside or to the inside where you have the group Collectively waiting to catch said person But when it's done right and it looks like they're actually fighting and then there's the last second last minute Case briefcase briefcase. Yep, you're right.

It was in the can and LA's not here Wait, but they're both laying there. This is oh my god. What if she pins them both and wins both belts I am here for that and I am putting it to the universe Oh My god She says ref she's saying ref ref ref the briefcase was in the garbage can Uh-oh uh-oh There's your prerequisite She's blinded by the fire extinguisher and pins Naya That would be really great storytelling.

Oh, it somehow recal gets handcuffed by Ria The unforgiving boss for us Actually, it is let's not get carried away that stuff is lethal Okay, Naya is back up in her cowardly lion mane Well, you know she's your baby tonight. Are you looking for courage? I get the reference I didn't get the connection Because you were the one earlier that said the whole Wizard of Oz thing Yeah, but the be your baby tonight was Jarrett.

No, I'm your baby tonight. Oh you said you said be your baby tonight She'll be your baby tonight because I couldn't say I'm because I'm not her but at the same time you get that I'm working on I see that you went to a different fire brown you went to a different and Jeff Jarrett when he was doing be I just wrote about references He just went a different direction that I was going. Yeah, I was calling back a reference instead of taking a new one By the way, hashtag survivor series is the number one trending in the United States on on ex-twitter Wonder about Vancouver Oh, that was kind of a stick my stiff spot You did you did I saw Batman Always got to be stay ready and got to get ready You know, not like has started throwing in really heavy Samoan drops, but I asked him could he turn around Oh, you know, he's respectful with nothing Uh, wait, did we forget who's on what team?

Oh, this is the whole you have blah blah blah, then we just Oh, okay, or not as we take them both down So we right there was the EO Bailey confrontation of who turned on who earlier this year So we're still waiting on the first tables table spot, right? Because usually this match will end after the table spot Well, we'll have one table spot that'll be a false finish and then we'll have the big table spot that we're gonna run That every time you hit Bianca on here she kind of gets you back In the same match. Oh, she keeps receipts the annihilator through the table I you know what go ahead throw a moonsault.

Naya Bianca's in a move to a flip. I don't think she's got enough rooms from there to actually do a decent one Yeah, you're right top rope and not be at the cage Bianca's already off the table. Here comes your tandem power bomb.

Yep through the table. Did she kick her to the right? Good night Naya Naomi take a lot of that weight Naya was my my I may have protected the back of her head a little early You know it'd be a really interesting way to do the end of this though.

What's that you have the faces win like you were talking about And have Ria just absolutely Beat the snot out of live and then put Tiffany on her And then she went to our chase me on Monday night. I don't know about that quick But at that same time because here's the other part I was the one for the longest time saying I don't get it with Tiffany I don't get it with Tiffany ate my crow because she has come so far beyond with that I kind of believe you're out of the chair I think whenever she wins she's going to hold on to it for a while She's going to be They're going to do their best to elevate her to being the main events that is And I think part of that is that Ria and Liv don't need a title per se because they have done as the Point of animosity Oh, come on, great spot, but I mean come on. That's not There's that briefcase in the corner Yeah, is there a rule?

It says somebody else just can't take the briefcase I believe that I believe that the rule is is the briefcase has to be earned So the closest you've had to that was the AJ styles fumble to Otis and then Otis losing it to miss Of recent memory, but then you go further back to go come on sandow no, no, there's another one Well, there's else worth one else worth in Carmella. I'll do it. I'll do it Mr Well, see he's going back to the princess this second.

No, but else worth in Carmella too. Well, that was a little different Because she never actually lost the briefcase He got it and handed it to her, but then they did the revamp Reptied through the table and they've ended war games with this before Hot that makes me nervous for Ria's knees coming off the top. Hey, you know what?

But that's also Ria being that much of a pro three faces win This now of course earns Ria her shot at Liv because she pinned at the title Yeah, yeah, depending on how the rest of this goes, but at the title, but yes She kisses the table. Well, I want to say this is either the sign that knocks it off This is the second or third war games that Ria has finished with a rip tide from the ropes through a table This one was a bit more intense because she did the full knee spot from a pyre Uh, but it is also reminiscent of when she won her first world title in NXT over Shayna Bayzler Where there was no table Alex if you If you Ria from the Southern region, you will see Oh, oh, we're having a real fun. We're having fun ladies and gentlemen.

We are well. They are the ones from the same hemisphere Yeah Vases win celebration in the ring. I see that the that break is still there EO and Bailey are opposite side They have been separated Yeah, I'll tell you what that that was a scary dive by Tiffany, but it worked really well Okay, let's see who actually handcuffs her.

Okay, Ria. Yeah, that was kind of cool though because it might you know the smoke hit it all That was kind of a cool moment. Yeah They that was that was for as bad as the chair shots and toilet seat shots and everything that happened earlier that Fire extinguisher to the handcuff really well set up Pat Patterson would be proud Yeah That's one way to break up the pain you just grab a lift or up.

Yeah, I just realized something There might be a double meaning to the shave in Bailey's hair Not only is it war for war games, but the font appears a lot like the war Raiders as an homage to her friend Sarah Logan Check out the you see the bars on the table went straight there. What if you went through then? Oh, all five.

Let's not think about that climbing the cage now to clarify Sarah Logan Just had her second child with Eric Rowe. They are riding on the same roller because you see they are riding the same way Hands up. Okay, EO and Bailey might be cool again.

They're kind of close Will they high five each other? I don't know about that Live still unconscious. Oh no cash in we go.

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What's pretty cool? I have not seen it with the plates on the side with this the war games logo on it. I dig that Not as cool as that.

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It'll miss nation. It'll miss nation chamber. Yeah The march is hey is happy Saint Eek's day No, I think you need to stick to season's yeetings I'll forget about you eat stir Sunday Even the shark is rolling its eyes after we jumped it There are other bits I want back but I'm not going to say it Well, you know don isn't here so somebody has to jump everything I still need to look into those hotel seats so this still counts as their February Pay-per-view right because I would say yes because well technically the rumble is the February Pay-per-view because it's on February 1st I think that's true that first Saturday and we don't have a day one I think it's because I you're not going to have anything in January because I think they're going to count the Netflix kick off as that as specialty shows and they're going to really pump it up You're going to have new years evil with NXT.

I got what what I was going to say was with new years We've also seen where they're giving talent time off yeah for the holidays. We do a lot of double taping. Yeah, so Okay, you guys got to pick your favorite the first survivor season's held on November 26th 1987 it is the second longest running premium live event behind Mania.

Yeah, I rock it that is true Alex will four That wow he was was in my head 84 85 86 87 you would have turned four the month before yes I would we are now going to have our US title match You guys got to tell it which one's the best L.A. Knight and Shinsuke Nakamura you got choice one These eating No, we're not doing this. I just got two more.

What did I tell you? And he's how you shoot L.A.s wheels off he missed that Oh, I got one of the craziest nights we've ever spent on the show Junyi Oh, I'm not even going near that ah New ye eve No, it would be new year new new year eat I got that I like how you're like let's not do this is that you're trying Okay now with this US title match L.A. Knight versus the returning Shinsuke Nakamura L.A.

Who do you have winning this um That's good. I'm they're not going to take L.A. Knight off his streak But I got it's going to be squash somehow.

This is not the end of his angle. So I think you know what Maybe Shinsuke wins by account out of something Because I don't think this is the end of this angle How about you Rob? Shinsuke is going to be disqualified after he tries for the missed and misses L.A.

Knight and hits the ref Interesting. I honestly I kind of think Shinsuke wins this clean Now let me rephrase He may have the missed but it's not seen by the ref because you know as we know Wrestling referees lose all sensory when they're not looking directly at the people Oh, and he hit L.A. Knight with it last night.

Yeah, so the wrestling logic says that L.A. Knight retains But I think Nakamura wins this possibly in a quick one that's a surprise like L.A. was referring to But I don't think it's the end.

No, but the big thing is Is Shinsuke Nakamura and not the first big Japanese talent that H signed it is But I don't see him grabbing the title It's a weird thing because Shinsuke is overdue for a win But I don't think I would do it just right out of the gate like that. No, that's why I said I don't think titles change hand he'll get the dub But I think it'll be counter he'll do the missed and L.A. Knight may come find his way back And then we and then we can run it back.

It's Saturday night's main event. Yeah I understand where you're coming from with that, but I The other part with me on this one is I feel like L.A. Knight is almost transcendent beyond the US title at this point because he's so over Like I don't know that he's quite main event level yet, but I could totally see A reason he loses it here is because the US title is a smackdown title I think he loses it here something happens L.A.

Knight winds up on raw Because as we've seen with some of his promos dancing right near that bg 13 line He would be one of the people who could handle Netflix without going too far It is probably I like that thinking but the deal with L.A. Knight is I think that the only way that you take the bet off Is if you're gonna give him that same Adam hangman page versus swerve type of rivalry, you know, like it's a continuation. Yeah, he got to have some like that Yeah, I can roll with you on that and they got to be away from the title because you don't want to make the title caught up in that you want to make that it's own thing So I could see him and I guess him and His name escapes me him Carmelo Hayes.

Yeah, I can see them doing a go at it like that That was actually what I think That holy with undried it was supposed to be I like this new version. Oh, you didn't know Oh, yeah, no, they did this on Smackdown too. It's the the drum kick with it is really nice What is happening with this entrance?

He's going full samurai in him here for it. Yeah, because he's a samurai now I think they caught his turtles in time. I think Michael Cole caught him the wayward samurai or something like that The evil samurai.

He did through a couple of those out there You know ages back to tell them what to say It's almost like because it's such a dark motif with it It's almost like they're doing an undead samurai kind of thing This is the heel that I expect that when they slowed his music down in the first place they had to live You mean when his finisher became just let me punch everybody between the legs. Yeah That was a cool shot right there. I like that Yeah, I like that he's not coming out doing the drop down with the big dramatic.

Oh, did you see how he's doing it now though I kind of think this like difference like it's almost like a Almost like instead of a grounding pound. It's like the I have defeated my opponent so much there on the ground Let me finish this leaning into our mortal combat I like the motif from before. No, this is great.

I like this a lot It gives you that attitude era character I also like the fact that they're not putting him in a full-body suit anymore. That was always awkward Yes, they didn't have all this One fall That he's what The kind of would like to have an A w. This is what Hakuishi should have been Oh Okay, so he has had the US title before Yes, yeah, I had a moment where I was like I know he's had the intercontinental I know he had it a couple of times.

I know he was a tag champ And I never quite heard them cover the US title on the show last night I do not think it's fair that shinsky never has the world's out of any of the world I think that's crap I understand that but that has more to do with who was booking at the time Because that that was one of those classic ones where H is like no you don't understand This is the right guy. This is the right guy and Vince books it and they get to Mania and Vince goes I haven't been able to understand him and he has a list lose C-400 to official energy drink which L.A. Sample a little bit before the show As did Alex Alex as the I'm currently drinking C-4 has the popsicle Hawaiian pineapple and Yeah, it's C-4 at Mania That was the samples they were given out that's true.

Yeah, the Arctic snow cone when I threw up the classic one at everybody and L.A. was sampling the jolly rancher watermelon which could be my favorite right now. No for yet Go back to the gold vest.

I don't know. I know you're trying to match today, but that gold vest was awesome I like how they subtly changed the leather for him. It's a Vesta champion And he's got shoes of a chance.

He got the defiant thing going on He's got he's got a little bit of boo-boo face going on though. You notice that? Yeah, he's he's got the Sasha Banks boo-boo face along.

Would you know what this could be seen as This color scheme taking a shot at Shinsuke Because this was his motif for so long the red and black. Yeah. Oh, oh Oh, there's a sign of ill today.

That's the champion. That's the ill today I hate you so much right now That will never not be funny like if I'm ever down that's what you have to cue that up You have to L.A. You know what we're referring to yes.

No So what to me was the origin of the yeah thing Which apparently goes back farther it to clarify it does But that was the first one we saw on national programming. It was the first season of NWA Power. Oh, okay, and it was like the night Christmas more in your night New Year's.

Yeah, he just comes out of the middle of nowhere And I don't know if it's like a higher bottle of champagne. Yeah, I was and it was dumb I need the story behind this because I don't know what this was a shoot Or if this was somebody that just dared him to do it But do you want me to just say the line? I'm sorry, but he comes out and Acting drunk or in a skunk.

Yeah, may not have been acting main. Well alleged. We don't know like I want the story That's the thing we don't know and it was so convincing and he would do yeah after everything he said and at one point He was like you see these These are shoes of a champion.

He was wearing Jordans and then he pointed his jacket and he says you see this Shoes of a champion and then like 30 seconds. I think I should say shoes of a champion There was like a dramatic pause and he's like wait a minute wait a minute something's not right here And so right after he debuts on the main He literally just do the karate kid thing just now probably and right after he debuts probably Third episode on the main roster. He's on the top rope and at the time Wade Barrett as stew Bennett.

Oh my god. I'm commentary for NWA when that happens So he's on Smackdown LA nights on Smackdown goes to the top rope and Wade Barrett says the word just see those those are the shoes of a champion I literally turned the TV off. I was laughing so hard.

I turned the TV off I was laughing so hard and I was like there are 20 people that understand what just happened I'm okay with it and how quickly were you and I on the phone just laughing like I am Lord it was a glorious moment You see that shoes of a champion somebody you see this jacket Shoes of a chain somebody just had a sign that said I love you so low Oh, that was the thing I was gonna ask you. Did you see the prime time football intros that the men's war games did Oh My god, it's so good. They have to play it in the lead-in But okay, so as we know You know hingle McCringleberry and those kind of intros we have for football now on there They did it with all of the war games participants So you had Roman Reigns from the island of relevancy.

I know I know Then then you had Jay Uso and it was going through it and then it was Jimmy Uso from NYU and it's like I'm sorry. What no universe Oh, but they all did one and Jacob broke me. I'm not even going to say it.

I hope it pops up soon But Jacob but who deserves every flower he's getting right now Should see still wearing the mouthguard Apparently Santa sitting rings that well, I Before we get off of the whole mouthguard thing I've noticed that as a more common thing with a lot of the Japanese competitors coming over because they have learned to work strong style and May or may not have lost he Darn it, but do you think that that hurts them in any level like just from a standpoint that they can't express themselves in particular Because I also want to see we didn't get it in the Return match for shinsuke because it was a glorified squash But the come on if that's going to be any different as a taunt under this I feel like I've seen him do it with the mouthguard. No, no, I'm not talking about with the mouthguard I'm just talking about as this version of the character. I think that's part of the bit.

I think he still does it But is it going to be altered in any way? I don't think so Okay He does do it. I think it won't be the It won't be the delay come on.

He'll he'll pay you one way. Yeah, they're like more growling right? He may just do the hand signal like a slow Something like that But just bring it if you will Although the other thing that stuck in my head based on this because We we have these thoughts is there any other thing in the last two to three years that you wish you could go back to the plan And have all three of us in the same place when LA night debuted Because we kind of did It's my wife's watching TV in the other room.

Oh, I'm picking it up on the mic. Yeah, so am I yeah But at that same time you and I were trying to experiment because of weather and everything else It was the kickoff for NXT I don't remember it was it was a takeover right now Yes, it was a takeover, but to clarify LA our LA Has always been Eli Drake fan one yes Who is the what is the original prior name for LA night? But when he showed up was one pop when he introduced himself as LA Every wheel was gone for the foreseeable future and all I can remember was we need to get LA on the phone I love that his real name is Sean Edward Ricker Sean Ricker.

Yeah, he's the Ricker And he has a lot of acting credit. He's forgetting that he was doose. Oh, yeah, he did a lot of he's got a lot of commercial Well, and the College humor he was part of for a while there to Or at least a comparable version because I just remember him in like full drag but not shaving Just losing his mind on people God that was over here.

I love that he loves the air Jordan Pat love is so much That throughout all the years he loves it so much that he gets all of his rain boots patterned after that It but he's also the one that has done that because he's like I respect my Jordans too much to wrestle in them So he literally has them made to look like Jordans right like whether it be the but it's for him It's usually the 12s, isn't it? No, it's 11. Yeah, it's 11.

Okay Like he he actually wrestled in the 11s and T&A, but he had like something over top of them Yeah, the kick pad kind of thing. Yeah, he still has that, but it's a little bit different. Yeah, but I like now Like you say he got that money.

So they're all made to look like Jordans. He's got that company. Yeah And he hits a big burning hammer on shins game.

This has actually been a really good match How many matches do we have on this card? I'm afraid to look as we're on delay. Well, that's a very valid point Uh, he debuted he meaning at LA night.

Okay. Thank you. Yeah, it was February 21st.

He signed his his contract. Yeah February 15th and he showed up at takeover vengeance. Yeah But I don't know if that was when he debuted because he debuted because remember he showed up on the pre show Right, he didn't never go up and he was gone for a while.

So Yeat I was I really wish I could remember because all I remember is you and I both just absolutely screaming LA I was telling um Before you got here. I was telling Rob Um, we were talking about trick wheel This is a side note trick wheelie and he's a music and all that and uh-huh And just think with the thought goes away You're welcome Oh, okay, okay got came back. So we were talking about a trick and then it it The man who does not own a shirt.

Yes, and then it went back to us talking about the Usos and I said And the Alex I want you to take on it. I don't so somehow I'm a little bothered By Jay Usos fame And Jimmy's just kind of psychic When I can see you when the Usos were at their core Jimmy was kind of the guy that couldn't talk I mean Jay was kind of the guy that couldn't talk and Jimmy did all the talking so yeah Well now now that's absolutely right and I feel like there was supposed to be more if Jimmy had not gotten hurt at mania That was one of the big things because what we always had was if you remember Even though they were twins and you had the Usos coming in and with the twin magic level because it was difficult to tell them apart You had Jimmy was the mouth because he knows how to talk he is if you ask like all of the Out-of-character aspects where they say who's the funniest person in the company Jimmy comes up every single time right he's the guy that knows how to talk you don't you you don't marry somebody like Naomi without no one at a spit game And Jay was always the bump guy I mean he was the little brother. He was the good wrestler.

I always felt like Jay the BFT warm-up thing that looks so ridiculous Keep going. I always felt like Jay was the better wrestler where Jimmy was the better entertainer Okay, and I feel like But remember the issues the end with Jimmy actually doing the splash. Yeah.

Yeah. No, I don't I don't deny that but I think that was part of what they changed to give Jay something more to do Because if you look at it, he was also the one that couldn't keep a straight base. Yeah during a lot of the when things go wrong So you're you're absolutely right that it was unbalanced.

Yeah as far as that goes but Part of that was also the fact that Jimmy Every time they went to do something with him within the bloodline or whatever he kept getting hurt Yeah, because remember he was the one that disappeared Which is how Jay became the right-hand man right and then when Jimmy came back he was more fodder For the bloodline to reunite over shared trauma But Jay was the one that could work because Jimmy kept watching. Oh, that was a stiff one on the back What is this gonna be oh My god We caught the guy in the front row saying a word. We can't say on air.

So Okay, so with that you know going on about the Usos. Yeah So you're saying after the Jimmy versus Jay the yeet versus no yee. Mm-hmm.

Jimmy was injured there Jimmy was injured either but right before or during that match Which is why the match did not live up to their hopes and they were Jay was and Jimmy both Out of character. Let me rephrase The fought two brothers. Yeah, both said man.

We really We really had more plans for this. We wish it had been better. We were so.

Oh, this is a cool camera shot Getting a shot between the pipes for the two rings together uh And setting up for this I kind of dig the kinshasa on the back of the head now. It seems more intense more villainous. It works out well for the character Uh But in that same vein that's why the Usos matchup that everybody thought including myself thought was going to be this electric match that was going to like Set the ring on fire and it just never happened.

Here's my other question for you For shinsuke does it become it wasn't about the belt and he just like tosses it aside and they start up another tournament for a belt No, I think I think shinsuke will have the bill But I think it's a symbol more than a championship I think it's a symbol of what he wanted to do to LA night and take But that's why I'm saying like it was more of hurting LA night. That was winning a champion I can see him carrying the belt on his back or something like real, you know, disrespectfully Well, for that one, I don't know that I would think in that same scope as far as being disrespectful with the belt I think for him, it's just more it doesn't matter as much which is why I can see him just dropping Oh, it's a commercial. That's what we're getting.

We're getting a true classic commercial Featuring Akira Tazawa and Maxine Dupree. So So when Jimmy was still wrestling So when Jimmy was still wrestling on Smackdown Under his new music which is certified banger. Yeah, was he still awesome?

Was he still Recovering? Yeah, well, he was still working his way back because it was I believe it was a ligament issue So it was lingering a little bit longer. It took a little bit more rehab It wasn't something like a break where as soon as the break is healed they can get back to work for him.

It was working his way Okay, I really needed did not need to see a bottomless Otis. Yes, no, I will I never never have ever needed to see a bottomless Otis You know what Otis I can see the Tazawa and What's the ladies name Maxine? I can see them being Extras.

I think it's kind of messed up for Otis because he actually had a chance to be Mainstream with Chad Gable and then that whole storyline played out Back to being it hit the point it had to for him to like the free Otis to get his Revenge on the belittling older brother kind of thing Yeah, but it but now it was but it wasn't what it should have been and it wasn't as much as it should have been Yeah, and it didn't work out for them because he's back to being passed by and well the unpopular opinion I have for you Otis isn't great He's he's a very likable very good character, but when you watch him work in the ring Broke can't even move his arms and legs the whole way. Yeah, I mean when you're when your big move is a close line But your entire body has to stay the same like you're the kid from christmas story wearing 14 jackets It's a little bit tough because he can be entertaining But that's why he has always worked best in a tag team because somebody else has to do more work He can come in he'll hit the worm he'll throw people around because he's super strong But from a technical aspect A little bit of a struggle bus. That's why him and Gable would have made a great team had that run longer So but but then they they very American made Well, they're they're they're building that back up at this point because I mean you brought the Brothers from NXT who were on top Move them up.

I think they're about to do the slow. I think they're gonna do the slow build to bring those brother the creed brothers back up Along with Ivy Nile as well. That's the one issue.

I have with age Stop bringing the guys up and burying them back down when you brought them over Well, but the other part was is I want to say they got brought up before H took over I want to say that they started having struggles before H ever had the decision making So in that same scope I feel like there was more of a continuation and To put it in this context One of the things that I think TNA has been doing really well is showing you why nick nemith is Championship level Instead of just saying hey, you knew this guy as the java from the other place But he's a really good wrestler. They built him up as nick nemith So what you have in that same scope is real name By the tonight's survivor series highest grossing WWE arena event ever Oh good the boring balal muhamid is here And because we can't do a A plea without food talk I have brought the boys a sampling of the smoked queso that I made for Thanksgiving Thank you, okay I see pains version of warpigs is delightful I like his also his uh, I thought that was reggie for a minute the how dare you But if yet if you also if you haven't heard him in Mark Zuckerberg during get low you haven't no no no Oh, my broad breaker is pumping himself up. No pun intended with a big pop of punctured on Yeah, he was wearing that into pre-show.

I was like nice. Yeah But I love what they do shots like that. It's like because Those of us that have been in some kind of competition We understand the mental game beforehand, but they put him up on this random like Trailer catwalk thing that just walk back and forth.

He's got eight feet to work with you can't look cool walking across eight feet of catwalk When you're just looking down this is now a vignette for what's about to be the triple threat match for the intercontinental champion chip Ron breaker sheamus and fluid Kaiser Now back to you did anybody else have that moment when they introduce the women's intercontinental championship That you kind of wanted it to be like This first champion is going to be determined by a tournament in Brazil We'll let you know the results at Saturday night's main event Well, that's what they did with the first undercontinental champion Nice to see that they're still getting their money's worth out of ricochet getting murdered Oh exactly how intense is broad breaker running the ropes It scares me at times Like when you see the ropes hit and the entire ring shake that's awesome You Yes, you did You I still can't unsee it looking like the eight the first AEW women's championship I cannot unsee that and it's it bothers me And I feel like Gunther did a lot to build that up and it kind of It's still up there, but it's not quite where it was With the blue you mean being added in yeah, I can I can roll with you on that one The the amount of stuff they're letting break or do is so awkward at times now I like Yeah, I like um, I like don't there's um Gunther having to build at the time because it was traditional looking yeah like the rest very flat black and gold like This is what a championship motif is meant to be Now you know what I would say Kaiser is getting that rub the way that some of the other guys we've been talking about Needed to get their rub like even though Kaiser's not main event yet His he's him brought some read they're getting the type of rub that the mid-carter should be you want my hot take on this one That was a note I took during raw because that that Kaiser Braun Breaker match went much longer than I anticipated before the schmoss that we all knew was coming right Ludwig Kaiser right now Is triple H at the start of DX okay because you can see the talent okay You're not quite buying into it yet. Yeah, but he is but he is respected And being lifted by an unquestionable main event talent the way that Sean lifted triple H Gunther is holding up Ludwig Kaiser the hard part with Ludwig Kaiser right now is This whole a plus aesthetic that they're trying to roll with Fits because if you see him in street clothes like normal hero whatever He is an incredibly good looking guy and you can see why Tiffy goes for him. Yeah But when he's in his wrestling trunks super oiled super-tanned super slick tear His face and everything else almost looks awkward He looks like the guy is from Oswik It's from what isn't it Oswik isn't it had I pronounced it?

I don't know what you're referring to I'm sorry Do me more information there. Yeah, we need context from Oswik The one I'm trying to think of the Austria I thought it was oh you're trying to say something else do not say that no no no don't say that no no that is not a country Oh, I don't know that's something very else Yeah, no no You're saying allow me to put it in a different context. You see him as a spiritual successor to very European Claudio Castanoli.

Yeah, okay, which way they tried to do with Vinci which is its own story That poor guy He did it to himself. No, I'll ask for my release The moment that he went back to the job I would ask for my release Do you know we're not know we have ref cam Do you not know the story about allegedly why they got split up so dramatically? Allegedly you just risk over this But it has been confirmed by multiple sources Didn't she was trying to mac his way in between Ludwig and his real-life girlfriend.

Oh really And that's why there was the hardcore split in sending him over hmm away from them But he's also Well, he actually wasn't that was just storyline because they wanted to Ludwig wanted them gone because the other part about this is I don't know if you were aware Gunther and Ludwig have been best friends since they were like 16 No, I know you know I'm a green LA you because I mean yeah I can see that though because I've seen them Mm-hmm outside of ring and they like oh the he put uh good their post pictures of them back when they were kids all the time on his Instagram when they were first starting out as young guys Yeah, cuz the other part about that is but what was it the the last title that Gunther held before going to the company was a tag title for WXW With Ilya dragon off and his last title before that was holding the exact same tag title belts with Ludwig Kaiser At the time Marcel Bartel because he's actually Belgian I bet you guys can't tell me what the last time We guys are had a car Had a what had a car had a car 1963 I was gonna say 1994 but he may not have been alive at that point Does he even he's young, but he's even know what a car. What's that mean with the European they have good education He knows what a carbohydrate is that mean with a stealth getty. I remember it was 1910 I was thinking of the other meme It was 84 years ago.

Is it bad that I haven't seen either of the first two songs to hedgehog movies? Not really, but the first one's really good the second one is not I feel like I need to because I figure we're probably gonna screen the third one It's a possibility Hello on television didn't it make one that everybody hated like a live action or something like that? Oh no no so Circling back for you LA They released a teaser trailer with Horrible animation and the internet went ape that's right And they saved the model of the movie for Sonic and the first movie I will still say is good It is very enjoyable.

Ooh broad's got a lot of lasers remember what I said a few weeks ago become a champion get lots of lasers I actually think it works better for him. I don't like either of them Oh, it's got the little salute to the Steiner brothers in there And they're adding when he hadn't the next year like his 80s motif on his It's the it's the salute to his dad and his uncles motif from the 90s. That's what I would say Yeah, he's he's so weird though because he comes out with the real intimidating one that has bad ass on it and then the next week he flips it to this Then suddenly he's like I only half of me was a big fan of surfers things Leave old school sing along.

Hey, I'm not I'm not judging old school's thing. I'm just clarifying what breaker looks like when he does this Was that um this thing that was In the next look at the American thing. That's right for the one before that Well anything up to about 94 state I find it interesting to come out with the C-Shirt on Excuse me with the with the Scotty Steiner's T-Shirt on I understand why they're not doing that though I mean if we're still gonna call him Braun Breaker and not give him Braun Steiner Yeah, but it's like who doesn't know at this point.

Well, that's what I mean. It's it's one of those that's The world's worst kept secret Like we know man chair goes returned to ww of you that he referred to the worst kept secret and professional wrestling history Yes, I was actually telling that story last weekend But at that same time, it's one of those where it's like okay, you want him to be his own guy You want to do something else? Don't give him such a terrible name It's like okay, you're a I think I started to say this earlier at least we don't have him kicking the unforgiving styrofoam as he comes out anymore I feel like the name's even a tribute to his dad and his uncle in the 90s because that's like a real 90s character It is definitely a silver age, but you but you also know how much I enjoy alliteration It's true.

I'm cool with the alliteration, but you could argue that Calling him Bronson Rex Steiner or Bronson Steiner has some levels of it in there, but but I wonder if you do that though And take this for what I'm saying If you do that do you confuse him With Imperium especially in the early days you mean the Rex Steiner name yeah No, no, I can totally understand that aspect, but the fact of the that we're leaning into the fact of who his dad is who his uncle is Then why is his name something straight out of the dungeon of doom Also a tribute because you know his dad was in the dungeon to do for a time. So I forgot about that That's a whole different And if you want a good one go back and listen to Eric fish off talk about it 83 weeks does an entire arc on it and if you Do or do not believe the idea of the title change Not happening when it should have in the way it should have because sting did not have a tan Oh, yeah, I did see that talk about that. Yeah, got a sign in the crowd that says shamus They get we're hogging head credit for Joel and he actually That's not gonna work for me brother said shamus the gnome king I saw they're with they have another one like that that was shamus the ginger king.

I still want that Cost But at that same time, okay, this was kind of funny, but I wish they had done a better camera angle where you had Ludwig Kaiser setting up the chair in the corner and as we know you set up the chair And there you go But you had shamus and brawn breaker just standing in the ring behind him watching him set it up And I just wanted them to like look at each other and do like the old buddy cop thing of like just pointing at each other going Like are you gonna do something about this or am I Okay, but how do you feel about the fact that they are specifically treating breaker as tweener as they can Yeah, cuz when he asked, you know, do we have any dogs barking in Yeah, cuz they'll they'll lean into it at times for the face there But then they'll have him do heal things like that and cut off the 10 B to the body And no countouts cuz this is a triple threat match correct where people that are new to this whole thing That's why you're not seeing any you're seeing Things that normally would get someone disqualified because in a triple threat match There are no countouts. There are no disqualifications Plus we're not sure Eddie or angle can count to 10. That's also fair That was a huge it not only was that a great spot that was a great camera angle of him coming in from behind the camera flying into frame To clarify that was brawn breaker in case you were just listening Uh, well, if you're just listening you should be watching.

I agree, but that doesn't mean it happens also fair But brawn breakers athleticism Fascinate and horrifies me all at the same time. I will not disagree with that I mean the kids got all the talent in the world. I but you know You the problem that I think and correct me if I'm wrong here the problem He could face is being in the ring with somebody who doesn't Match him and then he has to change his style which gives margin for error Honestly, I think that's kind of one of the things they were doing with him in that last stretch of NXT Where they were throwing different opponents at him went after he had lost the title I'm I think they're trying to make sure that he can As I've heard some people put it.

Oh, there was a live round in there I'm proud of shameless for it. Well, shameless was working a little snug right before that. Yeah No, but I'm saying there was a receipt in there, but uh before we get too far away from it the thing with Brawn is they're trying to what I've heard referred to as Make sure he can Bruno San Martino because the big thing with Bruno was he could work any kind of match with any kind of opponent and still have a good night and I they see Mania main eventor in brawn breaker and I don't think any of us disagree because he's gotten so much better on the mic He's already impressive in the ring It's more seeing him work with I would love to see him work with a guy like AJ Styles See him work with a guy like Randy Orton who takes him through maybe a slower match that he doesn't use and just go with that aspect, but I also I kind of get an interesting parallel from brawn breaker and I want to see what you guys think Go back to Doctor of Thugonomics, John Cena Where it was just Okay, this dude is so strong.

I just kind of want to see what happens So the first thing they did was put him up against a big show For the US title because the aspect was and it was called something else, but I'm not going to say it They can he hit big show with an attitude adjustment and he did it pretty Easily and convincingly I kind of want to see an opponent whether it be Bronson Reed or Braun Strowman or however You're gonna tell it. I want to see brawn breaker work with somebody of that size and see how Much he struggles with doing a power game and maybe tell the story like that Well, he'll struggle with the power game and he'll struggle with the speed game too Because he's gonna he would have to slow down his pace a little bit to an order because otherwise You're gonna get a whole lot of no-selling by a larger guy Well, but that's what I mean is I want to see him have to work with okay I would normally just toss my opponent around but I can't do that with somebody of this size So how do we pivot to it and maybe lean into the speed game and have him like strike and move I do like the addition of that Leaping clothesline that breaker does off the apron and over the table and announce they break the table Have you noticed that over the last couple of days? There's a lot of table spots where it doesn't break Yeah, I think they've been making I think it doesn't I think it's a shot to be dumb you personally Because their tables hold up too easily Who was it that we were like not too long ago?

They went and just sat on the edge and it fell apart And I was just laughing was that Leo rush? I think it was I don't know if it was Leo that it was somebody it was but it was in the main event But it was somebody dying a small I think Like they barely touched it in the whole thing like they were trying to position themselves on the table because it was not done correctly Well, then the table just gave I know that didn't didn't uh Swerve had to do that for Lashley at full gear I remember Lashley having to jump into that's what it was that's what it was because Lashley wasn't in position Oh, we did the Keith Lee spot with Shamus great See for me the Keith Lee spot will always be him launching at a pile into the third row But then it became the thing of Keith Lee just standing up and appearing from behind. I do like that spot though Next me grin Oh, and now round two and now ten for you Okay, there's an unstable sign I don't know what that means.

That's not the one I'm talking about The one way back. No, no, the one. Yeah, the one on the right stop on me.

That's the one I mentioned during the during the work He's back going odd sign in the crowd. That's exactly the one I was referring to. Yeah I find it interesting hurt people hurt people I the the Vancouver canucks the rowback that we're leaning into for the Survivor series sweaters.

I think they're cool No, I was saying I find it interesting. Would you like your weird tie into this go for it? The night I proposed to my wife.

We were at it. We were at a stars game. They were playing Vancouver.

Hi nice Now there was a bow tie later. I mean, that's that happened at the wedding. I think that's what I was not wearing the bow tie.

Thank you That was very well. I was wearing a navy blue texida. Okay.

Why is it? Why did I look away from the TV look back? And I thought these shallayly that Ludwig Kaiser was holding was a stealthy stick.

I had flashbacks. I could see that Head flashbacks to a Tyler Reese. I was going to go with the tag team, but yes I love how they call it.

It's a fashion police. What was it? I missed the anonymous.

Yeah, what was that then tag team with him and bandango? Was it were they fashion police? No, it was I know that was a bit that they did.

It was a tie in a vocal name kind of Breezongo. Breezongo. That's right.

I miss Breezongo. I still have that fashion police ticket thing around here somewhere. I'm I'm still furious that they never had a title rain Well, neither did three of these.

These guys are not upset about that one. These guys are so both winded right now I'm just watching them do the back-and-forth hats with their just like how much more of this do we have to do Oh, light it as little breakers. And is it weird that even though we're on delay, I'm looking to see what time it is and technically we're in hour three of this Technically we are or they are in real time.

It's hour three. Okay, for us we're at 146. So technically about 140 because we've fired it up about five minutes before And then I got to edit the beginning out all the dead space in the beginning.

Okay, I want to give credit here because I've noticed this a lot lately Broadbreaker emphatically kicking out after two Whereas there's been a lot of lazy kickouts. We I mean we even saw it with like the first one tonight with Nia Jax And it was like let me just throw my arm up in the air Yeah, because you got to got to play for the back row exactly the concept in theater Play the back row But as we've seen with WWE and Companies of its Comparable level we'll call it yoke I would I didn't want to say ill because that that applies closer. Oh wow But at the same time we have it like oh yeah, you don't have to do that anymore because we have all these big screens The problem with that Frankenstein or see he always said he lets it go too early.

You don't want to hurt anybody. Yeah, but don't do the move Oh Did that follow the road that he said no that was a Kaiser set up awesome and here comes the Yes Also legal yes it is But it's all it's also that the funny thing is because we know try to avoid looking at the eyes of whoever's being pinned Breaker was looking directly at Kaiser But that's the smart thing to do because you don't know if you're gonna have to kick out to save the spot or if people are in position These two need to have some type of Oh, that's what snacks. Oh, they think no doubt in my mind.

This is your 7 on 7 or series of 7 As you like to lean into with the bear money and Another city machine that yeah He is angry That's a thin little man there too. He is very Belgian Well, it's a joy story you are a sad strange little man Yeah, my my thought process on that is the the fact that he doesn't have carvers is so that he can have a Belgian waffle side sip six back He's had more carbs than al michael's his head vegetables So one One no Nope Kaiser kicks out I Love it would call losing his mind When you call it gets that excited it just brings me joy As long as he's not explaining how to download oh you're right. No, you're I think it is ginger king I thought I said known king.

Oh, okay, I thought it might have been two different signs because people love low hanging fruit Honestly, I'm not telling people how to download an apple be fine I miss the anonymous raw general manager Ha No, I do not Because that was called at his height of heel dumb I never liked him as a heel it always felt too squirrely for me the only time I ever liked him as heel is when he had the protective plexiglass around him Right that just made me giggle. I was like this is so stupid. It's funny Kaiser oh, that's right.

He has that weird DDT finisher Shamus Selling the rib injury We're gonna try it again The reverse sister and here comes the Spear spear spear You know what I really want to and it's impossible to do this again The brave Wyatt Roman Reigns spear spot. I need something like that where brawn breaker comes flying over top for the spear You know which one we're talking about. He's taking too long.

Yeah, he's taking too long He's warming it up Well, Shamus has taken his sweet time. Well, that's part of the thing. That's about now.

He's gonna take it He wandered into it. Yeah, one two three and breaker retains Well, if we're being fair, we already hot-shotted breakers reign once. Yeah, are we really gonna do it again?

I don't think so plus when we're finally gonna pay off Shamus becoming a grand slam champion I know survivor series is the second one as we saw that factoid before But it's gotta be a bigger show. Yeah, I think that it's gonna be a Kaiser versus Shamus Better match at like It's like I'm in the microphone, please. I'm sorry.

There you go Well, I told me I was too He did get he get he got a little too lovey with them So he got a little too uci with the microphone earlier. So I figure that they would uh, I'd like have a You know big last man standing match something like that and then that leads Shamus into qualifying to face bra on at WrestleMania and then that's where he'll get his uh His hat trick. I don't know that Put getting Shamus that moment.

I don't know that that's I don't like that you the idea of that happening at mania Well May I rebut that? Shamus's biggest moments have always been at mania right, but he nodding the Daniel Bryan when not at the expensive bra on breaker though Oh, I don't think it's gonna be at the expense of bra on breaker. No, no, no Okay, allow me to fantasy book.

We were talking about the best of seven and at that aspect Thousand percent give me the bitter rivalry between Kaiser and Shamus that goes into a seven and then for the final match and deciding factor Kaiser Sheets epically to win Winning the best of seven gets a shot at bra on breaker at a limous nation chamber will say Sheets his way through winning to that title Now you have Shamus coming after Kaiser with the belt to avenge the wrong that was done of him losing the Seventh match. I did enjoy the second camera angle of And here's a breaker jumping over Shamus to get the spear to Kaiser. Yeah, so we have a quiet six sonic three crossover.

Oh, nope. Now we're expanding I'd mean the trailer this looks intriguing I you know it it looks and feels a little bit more like the first Sonic But with a setup from the second So it gives me a little bit of hope that they realize what they did better with the first one compared to the second Plus I mean counterries And the fact that Jim Carrey repeatedly says no, no, no, I'm retired from acting unless I'm playing Eggman. Yeah So another promo for the royal rumble coming to Lucas oil stadium So in Indianapolis, India will we not see Drew McIntyre in two world?

We may not that's a valid point and will he come back in space Even though let Drew McIntyre tell you he's never lied He's always told the truth. He was always honest about everything Well, I think you're already doing that with Kevin with Owens so I don't know that you want to run that redundancy. I'm sorry Okay, so rumble starts at five p.m.

Central just so that we're clear much like today did correct That is not a an eight o'clock eastern. It is a six o'clock eastern stark speaking of redundancy When you step into the rain with Kevin Owens Kevin, oh Haven't had that bitten a while well, that's because he hasn't won in a while Well, he also hasn't done he hasn't on the show in a while either to use it But we remember we already had to addendum that exact phrase like three years ago that says no to no It's only on a pay-per-view which isn't even a thing anymore Kind of thing on where you are Because if it's a major, I think you could still get them traditional pay-per-view. I know maybe you can yeah No, no, no we we established this when we did the research and somebody tried to come but At it but it was it is still a pay-per-view in select outlets It is just a matter of whether or not you have peacock available to you.

I only pray your outlet has been selected. Yes That's a cool-looking arena. I'm still trying to figure out why the The crown of spikes on it.

Pittsburgh has something similar But last time I was up there for work. There is I don't think it's the arena, but they have like a almost like a lighting rig or something I don't know, but they have like a they have like a A museum that has something similar having the things come out Have we ever had this happen on a plea though two different versions of the same song? I don't think so The official theme is not the official theme.

It's the official themes and it's the same song done by two different I don't think we have that's I find it interesting though and that's always the official theme When since it's since they've done a work sense of war games. Yes, they've they've they've incorporated black Sabbaths All right, so now we've got world heavyweight championship on the line Gunther Damian priest I do not see this belt moving even though I'd zero presentry in my mind It just hasn't been long enough, but we I said the same thing about priests when he dropped it at summer slam And it's about the same amount of time and also Alex I get today be priest Remix on his interest. I know what he's about to do just prepare yourself You remember from Ed Stevens When I sang through this yeah, I wasn't there that night.

Oh, I I remember I'm debating on the fact that I think that this is a clear decided match whether or not to go to the bathroom What else do we have left? I mean you have this and you have this the men's and Because that's it yeah Yeah, because the universal championship is not even on the card. Yeah, that's not until Saturday night event.

Yeah, that's the 14. Yeah, yep Good job. Be a little busy that night Okay, for the record am I the only one that got really mad when Dom didn't win this number one contender match.

I didn't care I really wanted it to be Dom because of how well they were setting up the Little brother ring by Finn And like how nobody believed in Dom. I kind of I kind of wanted that to happen Because as I said before Dom has been impressing me a lot lately. I also don't see this match going very long I I actually kind of define not going very long because I want to see if I agree or disagree If this clears 20 minutes, I'll be shocked See, I think this is clearly one of those they throw on it says run it 30 minutes Kill time because we don't have a lot of matches on the card But we do have two long matches.

So this is going to be that not necessarily filler standpoint But I am I'm really impressed with what they've been doing with Gunther actually to fit into the other thing I know they want to close and have that built inside of you, but that was trash ending That whole show was That whole show was just awful on top of awful and especially since we literally called it months beforehand Where we were like yeah, they're going to win this big expensive belt Never have it on and it's never going to leave that country right and it's probably going to be sitting in some chic's house 90% of the time absolutely. I think it stays at the at the experience It's It's the KSA somebody's going to see it and be like I want this one my mantle And that's that's what talks in that country is money. Do you have another one made for That is fair, but you know, I'm just saying the original or they just give them that when you make another one you put in a thing All originally well, but no, but what I'm saying is is when you get to that point you have the Conrad Thompson effect The dude got to the point where he was like I don't want to be some schmo at a show that buys my own replica.

I want That belt Which has led to some interesting situations in different places from people that are typically healish as well Because help me out. I'm I'm drawing a blank. Who was the the American top team?

Bobby Lashley. No, it's that he's talking about the the coach the voice yeah The the angry cranky white dude who just loved to cross lines. I tried to walk him out Okay, so we have to hesitate just for L.A.

Hold on You know, it's the climactic part after it keeps the fire anything like a climatic part fire Sure Oh, even the LEDs on the cages are turning red You know, I saw some of that earlier and I thought I was hallucinating or that I just wasn't seeing it right I do like this entrance music though Big Lou checking in Was L.A. with us when we broke that house for the ROH show when he won his first singles title? I think he was there, but I think he was he had his blood pressure passes Right He is your prize That was good You know, he's not all bad Not half bad.

Yeah, my blue though. I have got it. Yeah, you have good either Hey, I did it.

I did a sign on a piece of paper. I don't even read it. I was going more statler and Waldorf like They're not half bad.

Yeah, they're all bad Salar walled up fourth named after hotel There's a lot of the red and black styling going on in the gear tonight. You know what I would do for for this please specifically And now if I may I want to set this up a little bit cleaner for you. Are you saying for survivor series period or For survivor series war game whenever we have war games.

Okay, when we have war games go I want one ring with the red ropes and one ring with the blue ropes and whichever brand is having that match That's the ring they have it, which is kind of what they're doing here Actually, they didn't because the last ring was the other ring So that way you have a little bit of a of a reminder of who's on what shell I could I could I could understand that. I'm not a huge fan of the multicolored ring rope But I understand where you're coming from with that and I would not take issue If I may What if you had the ropes that were the same But they were accented differently like you had the red prime turnbuckle pads in one and the blue and the other I prefer to have the color of the ropes because it's more visible. I can't roll with you on that one And I do like the old-school red, white, and blue.

They used to do the 80s, too I did like that though. I will I should always be mania. I don't care.

I should always be mania Actually, I feel like I would roll summer slam with that one since it's the big party of the summer And they usually do the murk at thing there Why don't people know when they or certain heels come out they know they're not gonna Slap of five they still They want their moment. They're literally never gonna give go Allow me to oh, okay, that's carry that icy belt one more day I agree 43 and three in singles matches since April 2022. That's pretty cool.

I like that when I have years But well, can you name all three let's let's do this um Cody we know because we just highlighted it. Yeah Silly a dragon off Did dragon off beat him yeah beat him for the title Was that in 2022? I thought 2022 was when he came up Yeah, we'll say okay, so we're probably talking to Sammy is one of them Since he came to the main roster of Cody Sammy Did Amy and beat him I think he was beating the tag match or something, right?

But it would they said in singles. Oh go. Uh, and I'm wondering if Damian did pin him At one point.

Yeah, like on a on a raw just because Because we know it wasn't Randy. I like her a lot She's growing only but she you know, she's she's not as good as Samantha, but she is good And we do have Lillian back so I'm happy. Yeah, there is that Lillian needs to get back.

Can you not cover the mic when you're talking to me? I don't know what I'm doing here He's here so you hold the mic just you do it like this and then everybody can hear you see And if you get and if you get louder just pull it away a little bit You host events, bro You are at UMC large events with many with dozens of people act I just I just love that the microphone is the same advice that I had with my ex-girlfriends when they get louder you pull away sir The family show that was that was PG that was PG That's that's what you're gonna expect from raw in about four weeks. Oh, no, they're gonna say other words Like the one that broke me was somebody said me like hey, did you see this that some of the audio leaked for setting up Netflix And I rickrolled right into it.

Oh No, no, it wasn't a rickroll But it was something we can't say on this because it was the whole setup for Seth Rollins And they changed one of the words But I didn't see it coming because I wasn't paying attention. We didn't get it Did we get any ref cam footage from that we didn't Because he had the camera on I I wonder if they had it as the option and they were like none of this looks good like It's never worked as many times as they've done it But here's what we have to give the company credit for because we've talked about it with AEW How bad they botched their camera angles how they botched getting their spots on camera But you have people that know what they're doing with WWE because there's twice as many of them and they have that education And experience where they just go. Yeah, we'd love to do ref cam, but none of this looks good So just because it's out there doesn't mean you have to use it.

Yeah, but it's not check-offs gun It hasn't worked so many times that sign has moved Oh, no, it's because I saw from the other ring. That's why are you talking about the LEDs? No, the one that says I'm the third AD.

I see everything Okay, I thought it had moved to the other side of the section, but that was it was the other ring. Yeah The thing is we've actually other than the wargames match. We've just been alternating rings back and forth independent of what show it is We also there was also a really nice of Video package in the pre-show of the guy that tends to show up at all the shows with the rest of Vancouver for WrestleMania I've never seen that.

I apparently he's been doing this for over a decade. Oh wow And so he he's there tonight and he was there for raw a couple of months ago and they brought him backstage and Chelsea Green and Kevin Owens talk to him backstage. Hey, that would be that would be two of my top pick Well, because she's from there.

Yeah, and he walks up isn't she from Toronto? She mentioned being from Vancouver. I don't know I could be wrong about that.

I just know she's Canadian Kevin Owens walks in She's like, no, this is my time to have story time But he had a he had a one of his signs is a famous wrestling family The famous Vancouver wrestling fans and it was like Hearts something else and green I like that's not her name anymore Well actually I don't know that he is I don't know what he is. I don't think she took the name. I don't know what she did or not But at the same time green I believe is just a stage name anyways Yeah, I would be surprised by either answer Because it's like if you tell me her name is like Chelsea mousecoots I wouldn't be surprised but if you say it's Chelsea green.

I also won't be surprised Chelsea and well actually Chelsea and green Okay, she has taken Cardona. Oh, she has she was born um two and a half months before I graduated high school How's that feel old? Yeah, I forgot that she was a knockouts champion Yeah, the knockouts world tag team champion Now before we hit too far off of that with this how do you and we started to allude to it But we got sidetracked how do you feel about them having the Telling the uncertain Gunther story I like it.

I dig it too. He's been doing wonderful work from an acting standpoint But it also feels so unique and original to him Because he's always just been a monster. I mean remember the first shirt that we ever saw for him was Others wrestle falter kills and it was just the chops Also LA how much money would it take for you to just let Gunther whale on you with one big chop No shirt no nothing Whale on or take one chop.

Well, I'm talking about like him really going for it with one big chop What like he's trying to cave in your chest. Yeah, but he could slip so I'm probably take about 500 bucks 500 that's an interesting that would cover the medical bills I don't think I would get I've been five digits so I can have money left over after I get out of the hospital with the broken ribs See I was thinking it was gonna be around a grand or something like that because it's one of those where it's Based on other experiences in the wrestling sphere. I wanted to see if I can no sell it From the third row when you land I'm too fat for that.

I'll be in a second. I think he could do it. I don't I don't know He could before the record Because this is something else LA and I were talking about earlier today I need you to go back and look at the pictures from WrestleMania two and a half years ago so you can see how far you've come From losing weight Well, I've been finding it too, so there's but there is a physical difference dude.

I am not trying I understand it but take the win. No, no, I am accepting the win. I'm but at that same time I'm the wind No, that was the other end then no, it's when I break it.

Uh Great spinal stuff. I'm so many great. I don't know why I'm just sitting there going like What would the gas equivalent of electric boogaloo bee Why are you thinking about Because it's a rob methane second wave But no, I was you know I we were noticing that today and I was like he really has lost some weight since WrestleMania alone Oh, I think part of that is also that there were certain things I had to cut out of my tits It doesn't matter why that's why you just you take the win Or the win as we go back to that Let's see that we've already done that we've acknowledged we've moved on It's see and the other part is as we see guys in the front row and somebody has a survivor series I was their shirt I feel like none of those matter anymore since you could still get them on shop that don't sell And nothing will ever top the I was not there.

I have one of the WrestleMania that had no fans. I have one. So question Answer the most popular wrestler that has never had their own shirt and it's been Oh, okay, hold on a second.

I need I need you to clarify something What do you mean by not having their own shirt like not having a big selling shirt or not having a shirt at all I don't feel like that exists It's just whether or not we know about it That's why I was asking the question. Okay. I don't know that there's anybody who doesn't have a shirt like maybe just one They don't have a lot of styles.

Okay, like let me put it in this context because there is a name that pops into my mind First when you ask that question. Yeah, but it's not that they don't have a shirt It's that they had one really great shirt when they were on the indies And have only had one really terrible shirt since being signed to a major company. Okay, and that is one Joe Henry Because because prestigious Joe Henry is an amazing shirt and I am Pist that I have never been able to find one because he didn't have a contract with pro wrestling tease He wasn't with a company at that time.

He was straight Mailing you a shirt if you reach out from his website at that point and they are near impossible to find But now all he has is that weird jh logo. It looks like the doctor Phil logo. Yes No, it looks like a doctor rods thing.

It looks like a bad Midday TV show look though So that's the one I thought of but I think you are asking that question because you have somebody in mind that you want to bring up well Not necessarily because I'm thinking like How Go up there who's formally known as Walter and Like I'm sure he has a shirt But you don't see that show he doesn't even wear Okay, I see what you mean. Yeah, I see That that's just over super over it always been for a couple of years and all that that just does not have you know who hasn't had great shirts Rollins I was thinking problems Yeah, I like he's had a lot of shirt. Yeah, I like the one you gave me the Iowa's own Yeah, because for those of you that don't know I was born in the state of Iowa So that that shirt means a lot to me.

Do you know what city you were born in in Iowa greenfield? Okay Because I for some reason I had a moment where I thought you were both from Davenport. Mm-hmm.

No Or like but he's never had to me like Outside of that shirt because of what it is I don't know that he's ever had a shirt that was like And kind of Becky's kind of the same way. Yeah, I see I I disagree with both of those But only because I think that Seth Rollins has had good shirts, but they just haven't hit our fancy Because he's had like the SR logo with the flames where he's done the inclusive shirt where he's had the flame I think what he's saying is appeal to us. Oh appeal to us.

Yeah, I don't think Rollins has had one and even not so much that like he Rollins the last time Rollins wore a Rollins shirt. I believe was In the authority like even the Messiah time. I don't even think he wore his Messiah shirt The SR with the flames I think was decent, but you could say the same thing about Moxley at that is a very good point But what I was going to say about about Becky's I think she's had some really great shirts We just haven't leaned into them and if you want my biggest one because it's funny and I still remember it the lemon But I but you know what he's like that those two though alone I feel like their outfits outshine their shirts also true.

Well, you know what they should be selling They should be selling Rollins blouses. Yes There's puppy shirt. Ah the the puffy sign felled style shirt now.

I do think the One in your brain outside of the yes shirt. Yeah, also true And that one was so super over so it disqualifies. Yeah, well, but he his AEW shirts have been pretty popular with the American dragon Yeah, now I would say this I think this wrestler and it's a woman.

I think she Does not even have a shirt and all That's Jay Cargill and I don't know she does. No, they did make one for her when she first came okay So the one that they've been pushing is the one that kind of looks like the 30s Roadster okay front end that has jade and then like a Front grill underneath it that almost makes it look like a shield Because I was thinking like the AEW didn't even make a shirt for her. Oh, they tried they tried it just didn't work Because the other part is is you think about it when jade came in and had her big debut and the run Was still during COVID in towards the end of it so they didn't even have crowds during their big push for her right No one Darby's another one.

I don't think has I feel like he's had a lot of them, but they're also Weird that we're not the target demo for it. We're not the target demo for that's a great way to put it Big and lopsided it. Well, like like no, let's try this experiment.

Where's the doll? Where's the Darby voodoo doll? Okay, so he's not wearing a shirt in that one.

No, is there anything on the back? Okay, so it's just like a coat. Yes, so they're not even leaning into the shirt on that one.

No Okay, so that's the perfect example where if there was a shirt it would be on that doll You know, it does have a great shirt the outrunners That's true. You mean you mean runner nation. I like there.

I like I like even like their wrestling gear I like the colors. Yeah, outrunners. Yeah, such a stretch.

Is that because of your age? Yes. I figured as much.

Oh, we got we got guns We have we have barely talked about this. Well, there's it's really just kind of been straightforward I the only thing I was thinking about with this one was How long has it been going based on our prior conversation? So the hand We're getting close to 20 minutes.

Can we can we define I know that the drip blood on the back is a nod to the outsiders Well, it's also more scot hall right but what's also the Puerto Rican flag on the but the hand print that's on the back to What's that about? I don't know what I was talking about which the hand print on the leg that It's I think that's I think that is homage to like the south of heaven aspect with the choke. Okay Because the the guzzle as we knew it as years ago It's a big motor city machine guns fan.

Yeah, he just doesn't have the point Oh, that's fair But to to circle back on an earlier statement you were enjoying the the K so and chips LA were you in the building when we broke former punishment Martinez at ROH That ring of honor show when he won his first belt when I when I called him winning the TV title And then we all chanted you deserve it and he didn't know how to respond because he was a I thought that he Was in the match and we were calling him names like um A cheap version of them to take her son. What do you mean we that's a you think he wasn't sitting with us What that's what I'm saying I asked if he was in the building I didn't ask because when I saw him he was the odd man out of eight wasn't a six man or something that they had When he was the odd man out of it was something I think it was a throwaway match if they had to feel And he came in out. We were just like who was this Broke version of him to say because the way he came out was with the black eye Pain everything.

Yeah, well, I think you think the one that they have that select to members of the iwc Have leaned into is referring to him as bisexual undertaker. That was really a Ripley said that on Instagram I don't know that that was the thing before. Oh was it.

I thought she was on the coin No, no, no that law she was responding to it and leaning into it Okay, and I want to say that there was a reason of like that's that's one of those ones that starts off with Damien Like holding his phone and going have you seen this and she goes and it just makes that mental log of I'm gonna say that on a live microphone his his reals with Kate Carter. Yeah, are some of the funniest things on the planet I honestly watch that because they have such chemistry. I have that moment where I'm like Are they a thing?

See, I do the same thing because like is this real? And I know that cool the way exactly well But it's also one of those where if I haven't nope if I if I can give you an alternate Damien Priest and Katie Carter is not too dissilver to Alistair black or choosing Malachi black and Zalina Vega nice work there trying to do the south of heaven But selling the armory. Yes Oh, and we got a Camara kicking in tickle him We have a Camara.

Oh, he's kind of close to the ball. Yeah, he he's definitely in south Austria. Uh, Charlie used to refer to that as relationship close Yeah, just pass out broke because I don't want to smell But you know what he gets cross-eyed.

I'm done But if he passes out, that's actually a good way to end the match because it doesn't do yeah It's it's not adverse to either one of them. Yeah, he lost to some form of torture. Yeah Yeah, it was it was balls torture.

No easy. All right. You're the one.

It's it was a family show 10. It's okay I'm not saying anything Basketball torture Basketball chose Thank you That was a come that was a Camara with the Jan bag. I still contend the version of that with very white and Chris rock on the space jam soundtrack That's exactly what I was referencing.

Well, you know, that's a cover. No, I did not know that I've actually done by teaching Chong Really wow We're getting some weird chanting from the crowd, but I can't make it out. Can you guys understand?

You can't beat him or something like that Is like you can't beat him. Yes, he can You know if we ever get another big show in Montreal, AJ Styles has to be on that card I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

I'm sorry. I think I'm going to do for much. I'm going to do for much that is a different laboratory Hey, I don't know if we've had this conversation, but Is Dexter's laboratory named after the lead singer of offspring because I heard that as a rumor one time idea Because you know his start was in DuPont as a chemical engineer and then he was just like, you know what?

I just want to go make songs that will eventually be attributed to a gorgeous Australian wrestler Still not out of bed is the bus draws ever closer Also one of my favorite episodes of that show Every episode of that show is a favorite is that clippy somebody has a sign that has clippy on it Go back to hard camp see it on the on the upper right corner. I don't know if that's clippy, but I did see it Clippy's been kind of making a comeback as of late for centuries. It looks like you're writing a note.

Would you like to Yes, I took out the word yeah I got I got about 30 percent into that and realized hard turn hard turn away from the ditch I Don't like I said. I don't know that that's clippy. That might be just something very Vancouver Oh my god.

What happens if we get like a deadpool sighting Have you seen his new commercial which one for mint mobile where he's talking about Santa? I don't know that I have starts up with That's the father of four children that you're aware of that you're aware of Oh I'm the one that a Linus Miller said didn't make songs about That's still a weird thing Well, you saw the news on that front right? I don't know.

Oh, yes. Yes, I have yeah Carbasta Dave cool. Yeah, absolutely We Oh, they both lost it into the pool.

Oh, no No here here. Okay, the ref goes back in and then we get something screwy Oh That chant might be accurate I don't know that he did Because I think this is part of the setup. They're just doing a good job of making it look up somebody's coming because here comes spin Yeah, exactly what I was just saying Backstabbing bowler I Again, Michael call up and dollars could have paid.

Oh Okay, did you have a flashback moment like I just had a flashback moment for a second. Mm-hmm. Excuse me I thought he was about to get the shot gun drop kick the t-rex drop kick that gunthirth rose And he was about to hit that barricade like I don't know.

It was summer slam That was a rough Power bomb. Oh Oh, oh, I like this the truck it in the trap sleeper. I dig it locks it in It tickle him it takes the old school sleeper that he's been using and adds another wrinkle to it to make it unique I didn't it's over and nap time Yeah, it went almost 30 minutes You're not wrong.

Well, it's not even in that same scope. It's just the fact of it is what it is, but it wasn't like It wasn't 30 minutes at the solid match for me. No, this this was I believe the phrase that we've gone into is this would have been a solid raw main event Well, and we veered conversationally more off this match than we did anything else too I think part of that also has to do with the fact that we've seen this match a couple of times already there And while gunthir doesn't have bad matches It's a little bit.

I don't want to call it redundant. That's dismissive But there's a lot of points that we have seen in some form or another on this one And we're really just waiting for the main event. I appreciate this belt to bring big gold back.

Yes, please Cosine Well, then I don't think they'll ever bring big gold back because they wanted to Make their own big gold. So you should do it. See to me that was more a Vince thing than anything else And H has repeatedly said big gold is his favorite.

That's why he wanted that belt more than any other H has Respect for the history of the business. Okay, so gunthir pulled him off Exactly. That was it.

That was the angle we needed. Yeah What's what's Finn sport in there LA? I was just the same Air Jordan Oh, see I thought those were dunks We rotate between the dunks and the knees.

They don't make this wrestling or not good point. He's not wrestling. He's wearing the See, I've actually seen him wearing the Jordan ones in matches too.

Yeah, if those the ones especially those purple and black costumes Yeah, they were custom made for Is that his new logo now? I yeah, he's been having them. They haven't really demonstrated it But I've been focused on it heavily because you have the f inside and it's like a weird b But it has the tail Well, I see the b is the top part of the of the f because it gets it it's around it.

Okay. Yeah And now an advertisement for these cheesy belts And I feel like if you don't have a championship, they shouldn't make a belt for you I can roll with you on that one except for the fact that it's the people that don't win championships that want the belts the most You know like a certain person's football team. Oh wow Oh, yeah, one more than you think Yeah, but ours are in this century I believe it's rust at this point for you 1972 Now they're playing Oh, I have to get it in now I have to get it in before we take the rest of our existence.

What should you do? And I love that we're going back to Saturday's main event and they use the theme of obsession Mm-hmm, which is what they use back in the day, but it was a more of a even though that one had lyrics that was more of an instrumental. Okay I the whoever was creating their fonts for the show back then doing a great job.

That is straight up 80s right there Oh, yes, right up 80s and it's going to be on long guideline I feel like that Saturday nights was somebody watching Scarface and going the club got it I mean it was 1983 so Okay, then it was a Hulk Hogan and Vince while writing the movie Uh, no holds barred and coming up with that one Okay, who do you want to win this overall? I've said it for I want me to end a win it. No, I really do Chelsea Green.

I am with LA. I want Chelsea green to win I think it'll be Bailey We and hot take I want Kevin Owens to win this. Well, you know, they're going to move me and Rob talked about this earlier I think Kevin Owens is going to Not win this one, but he's going to get be cute or something like that to where the fight's not over and they're going to carry this on See I I could love I would love that booking if one of the fantasy ideas and I know No, no, no, wait, but what I want them to do is I want them to slowly do the double turn Where Cody is becoming home lander and Kevin really was right and he's like no, no, no I'm only attacking the people that turned on me I don't I don't hit Kofi anymore I think one of these I'm sorry Rob.

I think one of these Winners is going to be like a squash winner like a Chelsea Green to something one of the you you're talking about one of the semi-final of the Women's US championship. Yeah, either US or it'll be a squash Somebody's gonna somebody who's like not a premier wrestler like a Bailey or something. They're going to win So like a Chelsea Green.

Okay, you think you're going to use it as an elevation. Yeah, okay. Yeah Like Dakota Kai would win like for example the women I get you.

Yeah Yeah You were saying Rob. I believe that there will be shenanigans Via Randall Keith Orton and it becomes a triple threat at the I could I could roll with you on that. Oh jesus Is eating his way into the snapping to a slim gym Big fan of the slender if he says oh yeet.

I'm out Yeet when you're ready. I should have been a yeet at the end. Oh I again, I say I think it's so unfair That Jay Uso has such a huge Following and Jimmy's just kind of like I'm an Uso too Yeah, but here's the thing Jimmy walks out and he sees his wife and he goes I already won Ah I nailed down that funcadactyl We are so just killing time with the show right this What If you see I'm so sorry.

Ball so hard you. Yeah. God I love Tava.

Nice job, Hector. I'm so sorry. Did I undersell it?

Did I undersell it? Did I undersell it? No, no, no.

Sir, sir, that is so non-estate. That's the only thing that should have popped in was Keegan Michael Keat's. Just Umaga you.

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A good line divided. He was always saying how you say no. You're saying it.

You have to say how you say. But yes, like the fact that they actually went for it because you're like you know some of them because the other part is if I'm not mistaken. Tonga Loa actually did play football at UTEP.

So his was legitimate. Well, we all know we're Roman win. Uh-huh.

And he's not happy right now. Did they not pull off the opposite today? Yesterday.

Oh, that was yesterday. It went it went to eight over times. Oh, wow.

It went to eight over times in Georgia wound up winning. And I blame O'Shea Jackson Jr. Because he started talking smack in like the beginning of the third quarter about the fighting Joe on a Watties beating the fighting Cody Rhodes.

Oh dear. For those playing the home game Georgia Tech was up by a good bit on the University of Georgia and football and wound up losing an OT. But it was one of those where it was like watching it.

I was like, now I remember this is in a perfect example of why I always bet the over in college because there was what? 20 points in that game going to the fourth quarter and it finished with 90 almost. So for the record, we're at about the two and a half hour mark at this point.

Is this going to be the shortest summer or survivor series ever? It's going to take the better part of 30 minutes to give everybody the ring. Well, as we said, it is the bloodline.

So they each take their own sweet time. I need a tsunami state jersey. And I need a tsunami state jersey now.

I can do that for you. I even put a wave on there too. Make a move.

Thanking science. I got to be honest. I honestly am on.

I really appreciate the fact that they put bronze and read in this map. And they did it organically too. It made sense.

Now I won't lie. I understand the Paul Hayman angle and the fireman guy. But we all know that the WWE really wanted to put Seth Rollins in this match because of the beef that he has.

No, I think it's smart because I think that was the ball splagged. Yeah, because I was at the wrong assumption. But I think doing this and if Alex's fantasy booking happens, I think it's absolute genius.

Which means it won't because I don't think that it'll be a. I don't think it'll. I don't think that's what's going to sit Rollins off because he's the one that gets to go.

No, because it'll be punk telling him that. Yeah, I did the thing. It'll be rubbing it in his face about it because the other thing is.

But the other thing is like I talked about earlier. You get. You get the bloodline.

Nobody's beaten anybody. So you keep him. You.

Another off. You keep them separated. And there's no like I think the fifth guy is being involved in the pin with each other.

I think if it's booked that way is the absolute smartest way to book this because it keeps the bloodline at each other. Nobody can go. Nobody can leave war games and say they have a true advantage.

They can only say their team won the match. Now the other thing before we get too far off of it, how did you feel about the sit down segment from yesterday? I liked it a lot.

I thought it played perfectly. Would you like to try and guess what the favor is? We were talking about.

We were trying to. We were. We were spitballing that earlier.

I threw one in where it's a. It's an angle where. Paul Hayman is told by Roman to go talk to Nick Alders about a title shot.

I can see that. And I think that feels too basic. And I think.

Well, it's W to be. I feel like. Before he goes in there, he gets a phone call from CM Punk.

And so then that goes off. And then Paul goes into the office and he comes out. And then Roman runs into Nick Alders.

And he's like, hey, did Paul come see you? He's like, yeah. He's like, so that title matches on.

Yeah, it is. So what paper view am I doing that at? He's like, oh, no, he didn't talk about them.

But you. He talked about what CM Punk. I think.

It's he gets Paul. To draw something up so that he's number 30 in the rumble. I was thinking in the same vein as far as what the rumble goes.

But you know what I, I was genuinely trying to work out with the same fantasy booking of rubbing it in Seth Rollins face. It's calling in some Paul Heyman guys during the rumble to just remove Rollins. Like, whether it be the Usos or something, the favor is you just remove Seth Rollins so he can have it that much more over him.

And maybe we get heel punk out of it. Because there's two different ways about it. Either Seth Rollins snaps and becomes the heel or CM Punk exploits his favor.

I might have been a basic, but George is extremely elaborate. H is the kind of guy that we're doing elaborate. Sorry.

I mean, what inning are we in? And I really feel like this would have been the perfect time to bring out the guerrillas of destiny. Because it's war games.

That is a great way to you know what they should have had the face paint. Did we notice the blackout black on black going on? The all the reds gone.

Except the wearable. Oh, and the cooler follow. Thank you.

I can't pronounce that. They're always black now. Come on.

Give me the yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's where I think the favor. But I don't know like you guys mentioned that Seth Rollins anger life.

I just, because it's, I'm sorry, because Seth and CM Punk have had, I mean, I see him. Sorry. Seth and Bronson Reed.

Seth has came back and literally gotten the revenge from Bronson. Yeah, but Bronson attacked after that. Yeah, but I just don't.

And didn't stay down. Oh, yeah. Thomas.

But I just don't see how. I'ma come at you like a spider monkey. But I just don't see how that would play with CM Punk saying, well, I did what you could.

Well, he did do it. Yeah. That's right.

But you're also the story you're telling with Seth Rollins is his obsession with. Now he has to destroy Bronson Reed because he thought it was over and then took another severe beating. So now you're dealing with the rantings of a madman who's obsessed with now taking out this man because he won't go away.

And you had the opportunity to get him in war games and you told the bloodline to go pound sand. Now here comes this guy who not only got in the match, but did the thing you wanted to do. Yeah.

Or do we, or we got the same use of shirt. So they're wearing our red again. Because remember the last time they won, they wore red.

Yeah. Now the other part to clarify is the quote unquote CM Punk pinning Bronson Reed taking it as step too far. Whereas Seth Rollins could just come out and cost them.

It's also possible. Yeah. That is the most likely common denominator.

Because you know what Sammy had red pants is a little weird. You know what Seth, you've got a point that Seth could come out to attack Bronson Reed and mess it up for CM Punk. And stop CM Punk and Roman.

Yeah. Not wrong thing Roman. I don't think Seth and Roman will touch you.

I think it will be all about Bronson Reed, Seth and CM Punk only. But I'm saying on the list of people that he could stop to make a point. Yeah.

And I still think we have a, we have a Dwayne appearance tonight. I agree with you. Nobody's giving my boy this banger of props right here.

I was born a king. It really isn't great. Well, you reverse it.

You got the black and red now. Okay. Where's Jay coming in from?

That was a hot red Mikey's there, boy. Geez. Those are flaming cheeto, Mike.

Have you have you seen the the Nike workshop in Vegas at resort world? No. So I'm really intrigued by this.

And I think it's something that you would appreciate as well. Resort world. The concept was is that each wing of the new hotel was going to be a different type of resort for people.

And one of the things they have is you bring your own Nike, whichever kind you want. And they have a master. I don't know.

Of course he then we bring Chris. See I'm punk out in the middle. No dress code.

The, no, no, it's going to be black trunks underneath. So it'll still fit. Well, I'm looking at the.

Oh, he pie faced a little stall girl saucy chick of climbing the cage. It's early. If he gets his head stuck, I'm done.

Oh. Yeah, we lost camera. We have lost camera.

Okay. But I don't know if it would still be considered a. Like a shoemaker or anything, but it's a modifier.

But it's somebody who has experience with Nike. And you bring your own. They have all the material, all of the different layouts to cut.

And you make your own custom Nike's off of the baseline. You bring in. And I've seen people walking out.

It. Okay. It is the cheesiest old white dude thing I ever saw.

But this dude walked in with just like straight normal dunks. Replaced all of it with essentially artificial turf. We're ending it with you.

Oh my god, you're right. Wow. We are ending it because he has to come in through the crowd.

Oh, he's starting to match. Oh, yeah. He'll come in through the crowd.

Yeah. Oh, I hope he doesn't get to like sting. They don't bring him in that way.

Oh, if they bring him in with the Shawn Michaels zipline, that'd be cool though. No, no. I think he's going to go.

I don't think he's going to be. It'll be the crowd in right to the door. Yeah.

He's anchored. Um, but it's J's J's starting to match. Yeah.

So the guy used artificial turf to cover all of the different aspects of his dunks. Yeah. To make them like golf shoes, but with artificial turf.

It looks actually pretty cool. Interesting way to do the pyro. Well, they don't have much to work with.

I don't understand. It's impressive. See this I dig telling telling this story where everybody else got feisty, but when it's Roman, they just stand there.

Yeah. I think we just had the J's entry path telegraphed on the right side. Oh, really?

Yeah. Roman with the red gauntlet. Well, he's not a champ anymore, so he doesn't wear the gold.

Yep. But he does have the champion in my eyes. It does have the tribal pattern within the red on red of the ball.

I love you. Roman. Rains.

All right. So we got five and guy, guy hugs for Sammy and Jimmy. Bit of a stare down with.

I feel like we get like the mini fist bump. Nope. Uh oh.

You know, Roman is he. Everybody is like, no. And we're probably going to have a Rob.

Me and Rob went over. Have many times. Roman said, we don't need him.

And then they joined the team. Yeah. Hey, but you know what the other thing here is?

We have a face Roman in in war games for the first time. Yeah. Yeah.

So he doesn't have a chair. Well, and this. I think this goes this plays out until the match begins itself.

The same way your last two will be solo in Roman. Just like your last two. Yeah.

I was going to hold back somebody again and tell. And say it's a Sammy. You go.

Or see a bug. He makes the fun. Go.

I don't know that that's going to work. Right. He may try.

But what I'm saying is remember every other war games. He was he was part of. Yeah.

He always moved a folding chair in there. So he can sit down because he goes, I know I'm going last. And there's a little subtlety to this too.

Ooh. Look at that. Great camera angle.

Great camera angle. With Jay starting. This also plays into.

Jay doesn't have to deal with being told what to do by Roman. Well, and there's another level to it, by the way. There's another level.

There's another level. Because who you're two starters. They.

The bump guy from the Usos. Yeah. And the bump guy from Gorilla's a destiny.

So you get a little tease for the. As LA has coined, I am not going to steal it. I'm giving credit.

The news. Yes. Versus Gorilla's a destiny.

You know, I just thought of another reason. They need to bring back the Gorilla's a destiny name. What was the bit that Roman was using for a while?

Greatness on a different level. Yeah. Gorillas of destiny.

Uh-huh. What if Roman turns out to turn on all of the original members of solo? I just hurt LA's feelings with fantasy booking.

Leave my bloodline alone. You as well. Leave your bloodline.

Look what you've done to him already. He's already traumatized enough. Yeah.

Because he took the eat off the t-shirts. Yes. Oh, you mean the little word bubble on there?

I was so mad at that. Oh, I was so mad at that. Did they put him on the back?

Yeah, I know. That's why I'm holding it further away. Did they put him on the back?

But it's not a word bubble anymore. Right. I like the word bubble because it was funny.

An only Roman word. That was funny. Well, he was the one that only had the eat.

Because it wasn't yelling it. It was a smile. It was.

Okay. So the other thing that's been bugging me is they've been doing a great job with this lower third. But the font seems too small to me.

It doesn't fill the box, right? Yeah, it is a little weird. And I feel like the lower third was the answer to us asking for special entrances.

I used to think that Daniel Bryan wore the heel out of the crowd. Nobody wears out of crowd more than two. Because it's 15 minutes of arm workouts.

Everybody's Apple watches are going crazy right now. It's like, why are so many people jogging in Vancouver? It's so many Pokemon go notifications showing up.

Usasor, I choose you. We see that you've been walking for 17 miles. Or do we just refer to him as yeetle from now on?

Geek at you. I was going to go a different route. Because I was going to say Sammy to they're all going to be different Pokemon.

It's probably is a legit insane person and I love him. He is embraced the I.A. Because the other part is is you know he's not a he's not a blood brother to Tonga Loa.

He was adopted. Yeah, he was he was adopted by Haku. No, no, we got five minutes.

I like how they have the diamond plating between the rings now. Because if you go back and watch the old war games matches. The disappearance.

There was no diamond plating so people would just fall between the rings. Especially flair for God's sake. Well, that's because he was going into the ring and taking a break.

I like that. I still say the biggest thing that's been a change is realizing how much was realizing how much smaller. Thomas is then the rest of the bloodline when he just looked like a big dude in Japan.

Look out. What happens to Fale show them? How much of them do you change?

Look at all of them. It's TKO. That's all TKO bro.

I mean, when you literally are saving money by having the UFC voiceover from Ron Pearlman be done. For WWE, you're saving it. Where's the clock?

What happened to the clock? They had it up and they took it down. No, that's my point.

And look, Jay Uso. Those are the most worn down. You know, if I were like one of the guys like this.

I would have a different pair of shoes and then that pair of shoes would have a story with it. Yep. And you could store them that way.

I think that would be pretty dope. I'm sick of those. I kind of dig that idea.

The way those curve and moot he has been wearing. Kind of like Shane and his baseball jerseys. Oh no.

You see, here's the funny part. They look so worn because they're just his daily drivers. They're not even his wrestling shoes.

You know what? Penny saves. Penny earned.

Just saying. You. Oh, Jay.

What happens when everybody. What happens when everybody unifies and you get yeet with the tongue of tongue is like. Hey, Jay's getting a little tummy guys.

Little thick. Okay. L.A.

You weren't here when I was talking about it. I think Jay getting this much rub has been terrible for him. I mean, it's great for.

It's great for his merch is selling and things of that ilk. But I feel like they have been so focused on that. His entrance and everything.

His in-ring work has actually gotten worse. Oh, yeah. Because that he just does pop so he can go to the crowd and get them back.

Yeah. Now granted, there's nothing wrong with that. Hogan made an entire livelihood out of it.

Of course. But at that same time, Jay's bread and butter like we were talking about before was as the bump guy. He was the wrestler in the group.

He was the one that could work technical with people. He can make other people look good. And there's some level to this of him being the guy.

That he's kind of lost a little bit of making the other guy look good. Yeah, that was the that was the tablet that was making the noise. Yeah, no, but it's not going to come through here.

No, it's okay. I don't mind talking about it. Now, I know what you were saying.

Okay. No, I was just trying to confirm to make sure that there wasn't something that needed to be adjusted with the feed. You're good, brother.

You are good. And I was trying to keep that off here. I'm not worried about all that.

Well, fix it in post. That's right. This is our show.

I think we've just given up on timing this. We're just going to let these guys go for a while. Oh, they brought it back up and then they took it away again.

So I don't know what's going on. And and Jacob won. So the next one is going to be low.

He did it. You missed it. He's the eye.

The in ring frog splash. You know what? I kind of dig that not as a mistake, but Thomas going for the pin and realizing you can't do that yet.

So that's rookie, rookie, or games. That's what I'm saying. It's good telling the story because yes, he's a psycho.

Yes, he's a killer. But he's new to this. Right.

Up shenanigans. And the crowd who doesn't get it is chanting something we can't repeat. Oh, just a bit outside.

And the swinging. See, that's the other thing I've noticed. J getting less active with it.

Like you were talking about with the punch. His swinging in the gory that he has done forever. But I haven't seen him throw it above the elbow in like six to eight months.

Something else that you want. You might want to go back and watch from the free show. As we know coming up Monday night, we're going to have the 10th anniversary of the new day.

Apparently in the last couple, three weeks. All three of them went to headquarters with the ice cream bike. Oh, wow.

And we're giving out. I walked into a meeting in a meeting room. We're giving out ice cream and then stuck around on this.

They went to the sixth floor where the ring is. Yeah. And they had a they had a time trial of who could pedal the bike around the ring the fastest.

That's funny. And then they stuck around and they did up up down down competitions with each other on one of the big screens. You mentioned that earlier.

It's it's a really there's three different videos, but they were all kind of cool. Yeah. But did you notice anything about LA when you were watching this when the Bronson headed in?

Did you notice anything about this? About what? About about him being selected.

I will. Solo told him to go here. It was the unified front of everybody in the holding cell.

Turning to solo to say who is it and him making the decision. Whereas on the face side, we're going to have that moment where Romans like I think you should go and it's like why? No, no, no, no, because remember the the rival to Bronson in this scenario is seeing a punk.

So Romans going to want Jimmy to go or Jimmy's going to try to go and see a punk's going to stop him. And he's going to go and stay and then Rome is going to look like. But I see where you're coming from with that.

But remember, punk made a huge point of saying this has nothing to do with Bronson Reed. It has to do with Roman. I'm going to punk me.

Well, no, no. But what I'm saying is is Roman may try. I think it'll be the reverse of that.

I think it's a Roman that tries to send punk and punk that says, nah, I'm an old guy. Send Jimmy or send Sammy. No, I think I did like the moment where they went to head in with the chair and he punched it out of the way.

Yeah. And then hailed it like. Like it was a karate time.

Like it was a finishing. Yeah. Karate man for NXT champ.

Karate Reed. No, you don't remember her. Karate man's in the company now.

So. And has held championship. Yep.

That's more than the Xavier Woods. It depends on what you consider King of the ring. Don't break the pump.

Yeah, that made me super. They're going to be on the verge of breaking up. You know who's you know who's been awful about that.

And I'm going to call her out on it. Sean. Sensational Shawty has been sitting there going like all the new days going to get broken up.

And I was like, you racist. What's they look? She's not here.

She was going to happen is that. Kofi and Xavier are going to play nice at first. Somebody's going to throw with some shade.

The other person throws shade. They'll be just facing the end. Oh, what you doing?

Yeah. Actually the way I'd like to see them do it. He's it.

Have the final testament come out. Have it get right to the edge. And then find out it's been debate all along.

That it's been. Yeah, we were never going to break up, but we want to let you think. Nope.

Nope. Here comes Jimmy. So.

Which is why I wanted it to be low. Because then we get the preview of the as LA coined it. Newsows.

But it does make sense for Jimmy to want to come help his brother. Yeah, exactly. It makes sense on this side.

Bronson is just. Yeah, he's just so low saying. Let me throw him.

You know what? That's another really interesting story. The new bloodline does not have experience with war games.

We've already told the story on one level of Tom. I think he can pin. Yeah.

So now you have the story of solo being an uninformed tribal chief. And firing his biggest shots to start. And them running out of steam at the end.

That's just proving his leadership has questionable thought process. And then you go into my fantasy book. Jimmy with the new rolling of flip move.

Let's go rolling sent on. I'd roll with that. I'm not going to lie.

I need a replay. I miss that one. You're about to get it.

Yeah. Oh, that was a whisper in the wind. Yeah, exactly.

That didn't go well. No, no way they call it that. No, not at all.

Is that a whisper in the field? No, you keep keep keep. Keep workshop in that.

Is that a whisper in why you? It's a it's a yell for men. Why you?

It's the rolling penitentiary. Oh, okay. I can roll with that.

I like that. What a lot. It's a you know, we need an artist on staff for these high army.

We need. No, we need an artist on staff to make these shirts. Okay, I liked that.

Hold him in place. You're pulling in place so Jake could jump over top. I like that a lot.

That sounds like something I put on like a Christmas ham. Sometimes, sometimes seasoning. Eating.

Some barbieat cubes. This is so much more fun than last time. Well, last time was also a four and a half hour show.

And we kind of threw it all together at the last minute. And even then, we don't think we were done before we started. macaroni and yeet you take your yeet burger with fries to get out of here broccoli yeet casserole yes let's go collard yeets shop and broccoli yeets mashed potatoes there's people listening to this right now going do they do this all the time yes no there's the worst part how many people are listening to this and thinking we are not sober I said thinking I said thinking we're almost into our our four because that record time we're about to hit three hours I'm still mad that I didn't think of seasons eating I'm gonna own it I wish I had thought of it LA that was a brilliant bowl hey yeets there's them day two okay so I just got a notification from X Twitter that they are now doing the post-show okay so your total runtime is gonna be three and a half yep just 350 see solo firing the big guns too soon they're gonna run out of steam I love you Jacob I love you war games have you seen the Jacob thought to emoji keyboard no or LA it literally every one of them is prayer hands except for the space bar that's just I love you solo I love it every single one I mean he really went into that prayer hands because initially he didn't really do it that much but then just one day he just hit those prayer hands but I feel like he realized that like just how quickly it went over and he was like I'm just gonna keep doing that hey remember this is a man who worked in MLW for a long time it was their champion for a long time yeah and he's he's too keen on reading the crowd he's had to do it for so long well mind you that guy is stacked and built like a champion so and a lesser league all day long and I would he would be the Bruno San Martini of any other league out there and I want to say he's Samu's kid right I get it all gets so convoluted for me and well because Fato was ready for the best shirt it was the only thing he says he only speaks in I love you so no he always speaks in loud grunting and yells and you know my favorite thing is he will pause at different times depending on how he's delivering it I love you solo I love you so look like he's rehearsing the solobiles were the fans just saying I come to you on the day of your tribal chief sweating I like that where he did the the start of release a rejection into a backflip on to Jay that was cool that's actually an old school Jacob Fato move he's been doing it a long time the fans just chanting love you so yeah but I think that move actually has a better effect because they're in the double-fetched absolutely or Jimmy was up against the cage that was really nicely done yeah both of these more games match have been very we're about to have an actual eating oh a eating of the mind but what's he gonna do when it's not a WWE please stop have you met LA but I will be eating a dead horse is what he does they go both of these war games matches from a spot standpoint have been booked very well okay from a spot standpoint not necessarily execution correct like you should have the way they're structuring certain moves and they're giving a time to breathe I think this is one of the best one oh here we go here we go what's going on there's the stop I told you I told you no no no no no no no no no you said the opposite but but no I'm saying the beginning everybody is saying the very beginning that he was gonna stop CM club he did say that I don't remember I remember you saying that he was going to stop and tell CM Punk to go what did I tell you there we go now we got the animosity we just didn't pull him in up against the cage like please boys get a log I don't I don't like that the look that Sammy gave it was almost a look of fear right and it should have been just Sammy going it's a thing or at least trying to play peacekeeper in just doing the two hands I got this I get it let's do the thing it's like Phil you're a big gun you wait he's he loved the direction from Roman Rangel he always has he's never not like well he it makes him feel like part of the group that's why they told the story it's that whole no communication is bad communication bad communication is good communication I just want to know if they had during during this chapter if they had bets backstage of whether Sammy could break Roman in a segment or not oh I hundred percent tell you they do I want I want I want those stories like how much money did somebody lose oh you know what I'm in that same one you know who tells great stories about that Paul Heyman oh absolutely because no his favorite one's talking about our truth oh yeah and how broad why do it yeah but that's why I've said like he's on my bucket list of guests to have because I would just sit down and go mr.

Heyman tell me your favorite stories and just let that man go for an hour I don't know that he would that's that's the part that scares me with him I feel like you would have to give him me or give me the Jimmy and Sammy the original handshake up down up down hug yes now give the people what they want just so you know guys Jimmy Usos has black high top mid mid top air forces okay okay they're dipped in the top part in red because if they were dipped underneath as well they would slide oh okay so they just dip the top that's part of the reason we have you on the show because you are a correspondent such things now do they use a a screw to hold it upside down or is that more of a suction they use they probably have like you know like the helmet stands yeah and the game they probably sit the shoe on that spray painted okay the tape of the reversible tape on the bottom okay I was thinking of it as an actual dip if that camera shot is not a t-shirt by somebody I'm gonna be really upset of what would you miss the rumour what early were rubbing with side item but no they weren't they weren't even looking at each other yeah they're on either corner of the cage and then we're looking the other way and looking so bored with the whole thing that that was the angry married couple look yes you know what I would love I bet the best drinking game in the holidays will be that I love you so low no that that's called alcohol poisoning all right the most the none the script part of the what was it what was it hey actor or Hernandez or what was his name what did they do I know it was I think it was like Hector look he didn't even get anything yeah I was gonna say bring something to a box makes yourself useful no do the heel thing put the table back because we all remember when he oops oops because you remember when he had the bill they had a tag built he was on the one hand everybody gave him's good question by Michael go I just check if I too need a table with some seasoning yeah whoop that was a hot F what if he just what if he just goes back and say hey guys he was Kamacho so I was thinking of Hector Kamacho that's what it was all of the names that okay here's all of the names Tonga Loa has used this is going to be fun Kamacho agent T Donnie Marlow Dai Micah Nuku Tango Loa Tango Roa Tavita Fafita Tonga and Tonga Loa he is 6 to 230 now Fafita I believe is his real name real name Tavita to a meolia to Amoeola and there's a really long one and then Fafita okay so Fafita is his real name yeah easy for you to say easy he was born about four months before you me me okay which me the younger version the less cool we couldn't find a better picture of him it's not bad it's not too bad 2016 yeah it's the last time he was relevant yeah I think he's very relevant right now no no he's just part of the relevance hey he's thinking for saying uh-uh uh here he comes LA with the big home run he's on the island you shut your mouth it's not a word God when Jacob throws that Arabian press it's so good it's a lot of gold teeth right there oh my god he is like 40 gold teeth he only has 32 in his mouth yeah there's a six more in his pocket than two more in his food look at look at look at some tongue somebody puts saw him doing that at um crown jewel and they say put in reverse tongue now here's the question are they gonna argue over who goes in first does Roman stop punk from coming nope nope I thought I had that thought but I don't think so but I think it books the same ways the women's did well I think you're you're your aspect of punk being like no you want to tell me want to go you go no I'm gonna go he's not gonna go look at Roman like whatever so you have no punk stop we just lift the crap the corean is best attempt to be heanen corey's great uh-oh look at Jacob I'm gonna start going everywhere walking like the that's not working because the other party is that's the guerrilla crawl just wave at him how you doing you got to wait another 10 minutes sorry about your bad luck no Roman thinks he's gonna bail oh see him punk bail Seth Rollins for the save toolbox oh no that's an interesting that's a great bowl great bowl the last time he had a toolbox pucks pucks like I don't care what's in the toolbox I'm using the toolbox I'm just trying to think of like because we know there's a chain in there there's always a chain in the I want to block in there well don't don't spoil things L.A. well that's kind of spoiling a little bit what's he's more of a mean I just don't know why you're taking care of us no no no no no no no no no you're like wanting to share STD you don't share that with family okay very oh the bulldog and he no sold it off of the toolbox because he doesn't love solo that's true see him punk needs the lovesolo to have an effect on Jacob and up big Samoan drop and down the way that he catches up he he steps up with it too hello on television Jacob put you okay are they gonna pull something silver out of the toolbox to put down Fato maybe I don't know if I actually like thinking that oh he is the wolf the where we're walking nobody asks the how wolf or the why wolf what is Gamora all right we're about to get the sickle of solo here in a boot 10 seconds or so I love you solo I heard that room look what is there come on jays back because this is unstable for me you know what solo has dropped away too that he has have you seen the videos of how much fun he's having in house shows though joking around and just being a general go you said you stay right there see I still want somebody to explain the significance of which side the tattoo is on because with him having it on the left Roman having it on the right I feel like there has to be a reason yeah because rocks is on on the left I actually I think he has it on both sides now yeah probably but if I remember correctly when he first did it I believe the rocks was on the left because he still had the bowl on the right side that would have been a perfect time for your seasons eating us but that's that's a smart way to do it though because you're not in the cage yet so let's just smack everybody in the head of the cage yeah but it doesn't matter because he's not the last person right but it's still weakens the other team it is true but it's a smart thing to do it's you use that's oh he's got the chain with the lock on it yeah but the the referees have the key that is also true spinning solo still should be his finisher for the for the yoko I think he's like you know what it's a lot less effort if I put this film in it broke so I'm gonna see that oh well their finisher was actually the magic killer that the good brothers use now so they're they're trying to do something a little different with it so it's kind of in the vein it's a Cody Rhodes it's a it's a it's a crossroads magic killer the magic roads is the criss crossroads oh there it is yeah but then you'd have to jump to execute it no no it's a that's how they counted down it's just oh oh oh oh dear it's bro okay he's turning around okay I thought Broughtson Reed was about to throw up okay we don't need to skate is is tsunami to Michael Cole what super kick was it's in the vein it's a Steve Carina or oh my god did Joey style oh my god great spot my solo getting the figure up for the replay yeah whether it was on purpose or not it worked perfect oh punk with the cell device it's gonna be a long night for aren't they all at this point not much more like the clock on the on the computer tells me anything why does it look like Roman was super imposed into that shot Roman's like like perfect two strands of hair on the side well the worst part is is the cage looks 3D Roman looks duty so now solo's gonna lock the cage but the reps have the key to the lock you should have brought your own lock dude I think that's what they're saying but I mean it we got two rings I'm sure there's you know bolt cutter somewhere or Roman does the reverse undertaker and just raises the cage yeah no it's the slow one that raises the cage I love Roman's got that you know what I don't get paid by the hour thing well he it's like count it down here comes the undertaker walk to the ring well he he's cutting yeah so like the normal he's he's on in on cycle as far as like lower carbs to cut it up for the paper view kind of thing is he gonna rip it off with his bare hands is that how we're gonna tell this no give me the key he's gonna find bolt cutter if he does or or gaming comes out with bolt players if he does this move and does this that's what I just said what I just said if he does do that and it comes up I'm gonna lose that's something's happening Roman's climbing I thought Paul was coming out oh Roman's gonna do the high spot up here comes the gorillas because we need somebody to eat these things watch it what you said here comes the gorillas watch it girl gorillas good you eat destiny thank you thank you for finishing now I'm gonna stick to gorillas sir I don't know the problem you are the pro no you not listening is the problem you can't handle the truth imagine I'm gonna look I'm gonna look why are you gonna see Charles Robinson walking by is that spot happens because shenanigans superman punch from the top row oh everybody get it how much I hate that spot you know you did this though this is your fault this is your fault for saying everything was set up well you said all the things wrong story on my life name my autobiography did Jacob just dead manning it we oh nice okay oh point shot I don't even know if that was on purpose but that was awesome Roman's like yeah it was awesome yeah oh who's laughing okay so everybody's on ones all but yeah they're the teams are divided this is the line up the standoff yeah which means the ending is coming because this you especially in the men's this has been a staple of the war games men's match for a while come on Roman see I'm punk to a spinner Rooney to his punky punky quick quick hi Jackson oh here is here's Heyman everybody be cool what did I say what did I say Heyman was gonna come out be like boys we need to get along everybody be cool if you're gonna love that man there should have been a mic on that there should have been a mic on Heyman there yeah even if it was just cut to that camera and let the mic be alive and here we go now we I'm still gonna use to punk with that much hair yeah I think it works with punk without facial hair is what throwing me sammy just runs and dives over everybody the good the bad and the far too oh they are it's so tiny so would this be a neutral zone infraction by technical definition no this is a hockey fight the hockey fight in small spaces I'm so glad they brought some reads getting this push though you know I I was worried about that because there was a lot of reports that if Bronson did not succeed with Seth he might not have kept his job what there was rumors that him being paired with Seth was to prove that he can be that level of a guy oh wow and then go back to be enjoying it well he sure did because he he made that exciting when he gave Seth those first five whatever yet that was the crowd went nuts yeah no no everything he did in that was exactly what should have been done he did a great job taking the coaching having the booking but there was reports that it was oh they are photo negative almost well not photo negative but reverse between the black and red I know you were going yes but I want to be respectful because remember you're also the ones that's like oh stereo splashes that's not stereo and I appreciate that but in that same thing one guy talk folks used to work genius guy banter right there folks this has been your men's a minute your message for that I got a real bad piece of information I got some bad news why did you just goat right in there he's the goat the eat sheep the eat herter I like that one better man I'm over the eat master that's gone through the eat general oh that that's that's a jays new position in the new bloodline he's the general but he you're a human gootter has some magic it I wanted to be the general versus the eat though you know what their favorite cereal is right don't sure don't come on straight so not idiot so sure to eat no because new jays already got the right around that 80 pebbles I'm trying so hard not to participate right now eat loops that's literally the one I was thinking of but I was like I'm not going there screw it count each other yes eatle smacks eatin brand maybe about a quaker eat company okay we've done we've done the the the showdown the okay corral let's finish this thing we we're running c4 death Valley driver double bounce oh no oh no oh god oh no I really hope to that I hope because remember the last time we thought he got hurt he was just selling for the box I really I there is well the fact that Charles Robinson moved around as quickly as he did yeah and he just checked on him well Jacob actually just went over to talk to Paul Bronson's checking on him well the bright side is as we know that wasn't a finishing spot yeah so now he does that six thousand times I'm assuming the double bounce moonsault yeah I'm assuming that I think he actually slipped but he's just selling it with an injury right now kind of like he did last time exactly where it was with a table yeah when he told what he's a Roman to go in there finish it or something like that you said it you take it yeah well we got that proven wrong earlier too as Ludwig did not eat any chair see here here Jacob's moving okay right now oh no he's selling it and you can tell because he's doing the opposite of movement with his name and for people and for people that are new to this we say that because we don't want guys to be legit injured not never never never never do we want legit injuries brother with a supermarket he is an athletic big man okay oh my god what happens if we get a tsunami off the cage is Bronson read the most athletic huge guy like that or who is uh are we talking all time or alive probably all time he's going to the top he's going to the top who bam bam big tsunami from the top Vader's the other one in my I don't know dude I don't think right that's true I was there but I don't think bam bam or was they are doing this move bam bam would throw moon salt off of that thing Vader tried to do it if he nails is he's number one no way he's number one great way to tell that so great way to tell that story yes it is he's number one of my list Bronson Reed look at how clean that table yeah Bronson Reed is the number one athletic big man in all of wrestling right now yes the land on that the land on that was perfect yes it was he timed it perfectly so the so there was just a little bit of the foot I hitting first I don't like my thought process right now hey edge that's how you do that I didn't say I liked it the CM punk chance are happening yes Roman no begrudgingly is he going to begrudging yeah no that's not begrudgingly that's a you saved me I'm picking you know he didn't got to do the heads it like and we have that we have the arm being taken our own others you son of a I know it was Dylan but for a fact I know I love you so oh we got to win oh we got another spike double up go for the third one oh got him again one and there's the break up yeah well it's not a double negative it's only one no yeet it would actually be silent it would be eliminated you have one you have one yeet removed by the no yeet you have exceeded your yeet limit no yeet oh we have a oh uh oh we have a super yeet party okay okay there we go we had a freeze in the in the feed there oh oney oney here we go yes we haven't gotten that in so long too new sauce oh the last table also for Jacob to take that spot that clean he's not hurt I'm happy about that because the other part is is looking at this yeah the tsunami off the top of the cage even on a miss is really impressive yeah but don't we always have one person to do like a mega spot and I don't know who that would be in this one unless they just say I don't know but I'm saying like from the top oh all the way to top I think we might have had it already yeah you think that that tsunami miss was I don't know that you do anything after that tsunami because dear Lord yeah we don't want to think worse than that yeah you were saying about Jimmy on the splash there we go is he gonna look at the camera do it uh no he's looking at the platform oh and Sammy's encouraging him this is the return receipt they're gonna pull Jacob off there because it'll be the return receipt because he's it'll be the turnabout yeah but Alex call he said we need one more big spot here now he's gonna do the tongue to where Jacob just realized he's in the wrong spot on the table and nudges himself he's just scooting very slowly because that's a great surprise they're using the drone for this it looks great nope he's gonna sell it oh nice do you know who yeat that that table broke a little less call Sammy why did you get up and fall next because he heard the Benny Hill sacks yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah little yackety sacks for yuck just cover him Sammy what are you doing he doesn't want to take the pin because oh I understand but at the same time it's a you know team team team team unless Sammy's about to turn no I hope that would be crazy what is this that's what I'm saying it feels too weird he wants them to finish it I think or are no maybe that he wants them to everybody gang up on solo yeah where is he he's right there oh but the in broad that solo in the middle of the ring should be over yeah everybody should be over there again you'd be well you know it'd be weird if everybody did these on this and they got roaming up and then they all went to the next solo and they all turned on Roman I thought about that I really thought about that worst NWO parody ever exactly oh even worse Roman just walks up does finger polka doom on solo seasons meetings seasons meetings hey it's your own phrase you didn't join me okay I'm a good Frenchman you just called solo Judas uh let's say you left up oh I I was just laying out so people could hear that on their own I just Raymond Roman's giving me one chance oh solo goes for the hug and that's when the music for the rock oh now it's gonna take it take it from everybody ye-ish finish fest finish fest kaluva kick kaluva eat go to sleep go to sleep go to eat and then and then we have this beat oh little bit of movement little bounce here comes the spear don't move don't move don't move okay pin there it is there's no way he's coming with that and faces when okay so how long do we have to wait on the favor I don't think I think they're going to draw this out a little bit well that's why I do you think it goes all the way to rumble I'm still thinking the favor is the nick all this word the title match okay so this is the bloodline is two and one in more games right this hurts I don't know that they lost who did they lose to about last time didn't they go against uh said oh that's right the rent last year yeah for some reason in my mind that was judgment day okay but this is another one of those ones that I have to hesitate to myself because remember we talked about survivor series historically and why I never was a big fan of it because I felt like the matches had no stakes being the survivor series eliminator tag survivor series 10 mantag survivor series 10 mantag over and over again I kind of wonder if I would feel the same way if I would wonder if I would feel the same way if it was every match was a war games match I just I like it only being two no no I'm good with it but I'm but what I'm saying is is I wonder if I would feel burnt out by it because I enjoy the war games setups oh there's the silver bullet right in the little so running the little you just parrot the line I said when it happened oh I always get a kick out of him it reminds me a little baby what's that with the little babies oh when he jumps it has like the little flutter like he's trying to balance himself and yes listeners that will be a visual of people with you for a couple of days it looks like he's doing the hokey pokey or just the peevee herba and dance little babies get excited so low just he is great so much swally gag he's having so much fun they have a free toast chili and cheese flinja I'm a big fan of look at Sammy interesting look at Sam he's feeling Lucy Sammy's always the the peacekeeper slow walk over there you go slow real slow I have more I learned this from Mark Kellow I have more tattoos than you I identified that you helped me so as a result I'm going to shake your hand I mean I see your I see your tattoo but I'm a big I'm a coca-cola your hand brother's got a hug one time what is Heyman is there stairs over there where there's no door yeah yeah because that's the opposite side of where they were why do I feel like somebody's about to attack Heyman while they're all stuck in the cage oh we'll do the one didn't go to sleep at the same time yeah one to sleep I love it one to eat that's even better seasons eating's everyone seasons eating so all and so all the good yeets so we're kicking off the season's eating yes it's yeets season yeets and the holiday yeets and very curious and happy yeet and days silent yeet silent but yeetly a little town of Bethlehem a way and a eatler the little yeater boy I just go I'm gonna say something and just get like dad's glare jingle yeet we eat kings of oriental or we three yeets of oriental bails will be eating baby it's yeet outside yes there's a hug for the wise man yes you all we are that yeah there's absolutely but we're fun that way yeah yeah okay so there isn't a plan for the faith when I have the favor I will come ask we we had the yeah yeah we had the Don Corleone moment I will do this thing for you today but there will come a day I know I know it was you Heyman I want to turn your phone back on right here comes him give me the turn back on your phone why didn't you pay your phone right like but I thought that was a brilliant piece of television a couple of this is what happens when you go to cricket now I do wish that wrestling would do what the fans do and show Paul Heyman's phone getting smashed and this show how Roman Paul and it was like it was all the wrestling just once because it's war games I want him to come out with the cordless we still don't have a we don't have we don't have the lower 30 now but while you're talking about that please explain what you just said about the cordless phone because that was his bit in the 80s was he carried out a cordless phone like it was a cell phone with with the antenna with the antenna and every yeah he really loved but he did that within original war games one of the early war games he is the new right hand man not not Jay well that's because they're on different shows for now at this point they have somebody to tell see a punk to come back out of here we're not done Phil we still have another spot I will say Pugge has gotten himself into really great shape since coming back just comes into the front Sammy can't keep a straight face and Roman will look at him he's just I sleep in the tribal chiefs aren't it that's right hello my friend state thirsty all right so no surprise ending we now have the video recap of the I'm always fascinated how quickly they cranked this stuff out I 100% agree shout out to the WWE production crew so gentlemen thoughts on survivor series 2024 I feel like it was better than last year I am a big fan of the surprise aspect I don't feel like there was anything surprising truly about this but that doesn't change the fact that I enjoyed it from start to finish LA definitely agree with Alex there nothing stood out working on the camera but I definitely feel like it delivered it was it was a fun show the one thing I worry about when we have shows of this length and it show you and you'll show like we talked about this earlier in the world title match yeah it can get a little weary burnout is definitely a factor but number one is still an hour shorter than AEW but number two it finished strong it finished with a lot of excitement I felt like the order of the booking was solid there there was a good ebb and flow to the action between the matches yeah we actually did have a title change tonight which this is now the second plea or something of its ilk in two weeks that we have seen a title change because we had one last week on full gear which is available on our main feed is it my favorite war games of all time probably not but it's by far not my least favorite war games may I ask it in a varied question where if you had to just without going to in depth of just the WWE era of war games would you say that this was top half or bottom half I would put this behind the one two years ago because the one two years ago with the same time bracing himself that moment was great but I think that I would put this the match itself on a par with that that's a good way to put it you know I love war games I'm uninhabited yeah bashedly a fan of war games I own the blue race set I have the t-shirts which I believe you bought for me which I wasn't going to wear tonight because it was kind of cold it's the only reason I'm wearing my longer sleeve shirt but that's okay this is the only clean shirt I own right now I feel and I that's on here it's my fault because I did laundry I'll do it tomorrow but this was an entertaining show if I were to bring someone unfamiliar with the business I wouldn't I wouldn't be upset that this was the first show they watched in that same vein I think that's a great way to put it because like you were talking about with two years ago that one had all the emotions and all the feels with how it was done this one feels like and dare I say it's a better match but there's less to it yeah there's less impact to it but I also think part of that is going to be the fact that now that triple H is in charge he understands you don't have to do everything in one day you can let this breathe well and I and I think to to your point on that the way H is booking things I'm gonna pull the audio down here oh not that one I'm not pulling that one down pulling this one down every plea is not in a bubble yes you can kind of like WCW used to do a lot you talk about taking multiple paper views to tell the story let it bleed through exactly to your point and I think we're doing that now but we're not doing as many cliffhangers which is not necessarily a bad thing well one of the things I have noticed under H's era now we're getting into the post show here uh which I don't believe we will be doing as far as part of the deconstruction but one of the things that has happened is they have leaned into using the post show to tell certain aspects of a story whether it be a bothered competitor or one that's on their own high from a victory or different things like that that they use to move the story forward on social media or various other platforms that they like to do and I think H understands modern modernity more than the prior regime and how that can play because in this day and age you kind of have to have something new pretty much every day at that size so you have to have something it's why they have like the speed title even though nobody cares about it it's why you have NXT although most of the time we don't care about it except Stephanie McCurray how you doing um Angelia and well there's a long list yeah but yeah but at that same time they understand not everything has to be on the big show you can have it on youtube you can have it on your post show you can save it for raw you can do something on NXT you can do something on speed you can do things in various outlets and take your time with it and H understands that because one of the things that and I saw something on this was the big change that a lot of people in the industry are noticing is that apparently age multiple times during meetings has been I know where we want to go and we'll get there and I like I prefer long-term booking you know that's that's why we always talk about Mania being wrestling New Year's Eve because that's where you're wrapping up your storylines as we close this time go ahead and clarify there are times where they like the hot shot stuff that just happens right away on a lower scale justified and you don't and you don't want a long-term booking that takes so long that you lose interest or steam but don't just give up on the long-term booking because the people's average attention span is a nanosecond now so now as we used to be able to do on our free shows great the car well borrowing the old phrasing of it it's I feel like you have to gauge this one on war games level and I would say it's a solid B as a war games as an overall plea based on what we've been getting a lot of in various outlets I'd give it a B+. that way yeah I would give it a B-might as well I would just say that the and I don't mean to be that guy but I gotta be honest the women's start out match of the war games real quick question before you move off of that though I understand where you're coming from with that is your view tainted by the terrible terrible kendo shots and chair shots because there was a lot of good in that match so I just want to clarify if you were taken out of it by that those moments or if you're saying that as a whole I think that I think the set up to the women's match was made to be better than the men and I just think that the men delivered on top I think that the women felt short a lot of the spots of what they could do yeah yeah and then of course with the use of the foreign objects those absolutely missed and I think all of them were off time that's good wait for it for me I'm gonna go right about a B+.

I was entertained it's one of the better pleas that WWE has put on this year I think with really this being really technically the last one because Saturday night's main event is not gonna be a plea so right now we don't have anything until the rumble if I'm not mistaken now the the other question I have in that scope though it's a Saturday night is it kind of a pseudo plea though I I don't consider it that because number one is not going to be as long number two it's not a peacock exclusive it's on NBC okay I thought they were saying it was on peacock no it'll be ill air at the same time okay I'm with you but it's going to be you know I think it said these are I think it's eight eight eastern maybe seven eastern like it's not even going to be in the old Saturday night's main event time slot so let's do the plugs so we can wrap this up LA go mmtgclothing.com you know where to find the LA runs all formats all the time I'm vex playing on all social media if you'd like to help out the show please go to pro wrestling tees.com slash the chief podcast we got a lot of different we got a few different options that a lot of different color schemes inside those options if you happen to be an artist and want to share any designs please we have ideas or you want to contribute any adjustments you'd like to see or colors added you can reach out to me and Alex at the clubhousepodcast.com quick note on those designs if you do submit and those shirts sell you get a hundred percent of the proceeds remember that the official fact checker of this show you can find Don Ford on ex-twitter at igboon IGPU and you you you can find me and all your social medias everything is yes that rob urban that is spelled ERVIN again thank you for being lieutenant or higher in the empire right here at sunset lounge DFW we've got a lot of great stuff coming very very soon stick around for that so until next time for LA for Alex for the empire I'm rob this has been the deconstruction of WWE survivor series war games 2024 good night everybody seasons greetings to all the preceding was a sooner or gator production