The Clubhouse – Episode 1

Welcome to the initial installment of the clubhouse. The clubhouse is now open. I am Rob.
I'm joined by Cody. This is going to be something. This is experimental this week. Eventually
this will be a weekly series for all of you to listen to. We hope you enjoy it. We'll
be with you for on this one as long as it takes. We're hoping to get this thing down to
it. Just a couple of hours a week for you to enjoy. And you know, it's chime in on a
board. If you want to or just make fun of us, we don't care. It's our podcast. We're
going to do with it what we want. It is July the 13th in the year of our Lord 2010.
We're going to start talking about a whole bunch of things. But the first thing, if you
know us, you know that we are both huge fans of professional wrestling. And so the first
thing we want to talk about is since it's Tuesday last night's raw. And my first question
for you, Cody, is this as I'm watching the opening, not the opening of the show with
the first segment seen as in the ring. He's addressing the nexus, which I think is one
of the worst names ever. But are we relying? Are we putting too many eggs in the basket
of John Cena? Well, I think it was like you saw with the NWO and the the 1997 and 98
and so on and so forth. I think they relied heavy on whoever didn't join that week. Yeah,
but I understand what you're saying there. But what I'm saying is I could understand
if it was Cena one week and it was or next week, but it's Cena every week. And what
my my concern is, if Cena gets injured, because he will, he will make no mistake. Yeah.
Have we put so much on him and have been for years? Because you look at the product
for when when Batista put him out. And now you don't even have Batista to lean on.
Well, I think it's one of them type of situations where you have a very big, big, huge
depleted roster right now with. Absolutely. Orton, you can't rely on edge is bummed
up every time we turn around. And it's this guy's on steroids. This guy's this guy.
That Morrison can't work the stick. I think it's kind of Vince going, let me lean on
this till everybody's healed this nexus thing. I think eventually you're going to have
to cut a guy off and he jumped, but there needs to be some type of where we make a, a,
this is a group. This is an alliance. It's nexus versus raw versus Smackdown come together.
Us versus y'all, survivor series top matches. Or I can we go that long with it though.
I mean, to me, it's, I would more bring it to a head at something like bragging rights.
Yeah. That's true. But if you're going to still have the brand separation with Raw and
Smackdown, does I, I just think that we need to spread this around a little bit. Or
I understand you've got to have the one guy that takes them on. Yeah. Which, you know,
I can WCW became at one point. It was staying at one point. It was DDP. But I just, it was,
I mean, when you, when Sting was out, you got to think about it. DDP was the guy, you
know, and it, you know, it doesn't help. It doesn't hurt you that you live next door
to the boss. No, it doesn't. But, you know, I just, I wondered as I was watching that last
night on going, man, we put so much on Cena for so long. I mean, you and I would talk
about this three, four years ago, where it's like, is this really the guy? Well, I think
with, with Cena, it was at the time when he came on not, not to judge what he does. Eminem
was a big deal. The white rapper. Yeah. The, the, when he came into this part of the
bit, the throwback, the original bit, he just was John Cena. He wore blue tights and pin
Kurt Angle in a challenge. Yeah. So I think it was the gold medal challenge, I believe
it was. He just, Vince just went down to Manhattan, down to nest, the throwback jersey
store there in Manhattan and just bought jerseys and jerseys and jerseys for every player
and threw it on a guy that had minimal wrestling skills at the time, great mic skills and
pretty much, you know, how Vince is with his creations. Yeah. He's going to always push
the guys he made. I think it's, it's all, if you came from another fed in a WWE and
you're trying to get discovered. Good luck. Cause Vince pushes his creates with, with,
I think with, I mean, of course, exceptions being to every rule. Yeah. To me, those exceptions
would be Hall Nash. Yeah. That's true. That's your list of guys that have jumped over
that weren't established before. Because if you look at guys like Perry Saturn or Dean
Malenco, those guys were established guys. So Vince could kind of, and at that time, your
Monday night war was really added at its apex. So Vince could take those guys and push
him just to stop it in the face of Ted Turner. Well, a lot of it was ratings driven at
that day too. And I'll be honest, Vince has no competition right now. Dixie, Jared,
Hogan, Bishoff, I won't see it to me. Bishoff and Hogan are stinking up the joint right
now. Whoever's running that show right now, and let's be honest, we may, if, and I'm
going to tease something, we don't know it. If Paul Heyman jumps TNA, there's a reason
why Bishoff and Hogan were not at your paper review Sunday night. That's kind of their
own little protest. They don't want Paul Heyman involved in it. And the contract goes
till 2010. Right. Well, see, and that's something I want to address on the next installment of
this, because I want to really get into the Heyman thing a little bit, because my concern
with it, if you're going where I think you're going with Heyman, you can't name your
faction, what you want to name your faction. I think they're going to try to rekindle
that ECW. But that's what I'm saying. You can't name it that Vince owns it. Vince owns
it. So what are they just going to be the extremists? I mean, I just we can go ahead and get
into this now if we really want to. Yeah. But I just, I just think that what you're dealing
with, it's you're dealing with a bunch of guys like how many times can Raven get a job
with them? How many times, I mean, how many times can Stevie Richards get work? The guy
has always been a very low mid-carter at best. The guy's got a decent spit. Yeah. You
know, I tried to make him Shawn Michaels over there in that when you only recently knew
about ECW was a quarterly pay-per-view or PWI. He was there Shawn Michaels. The Dudley
boys were their road warriors. You had antagonists. You know, and that's a great way to put
that. I never thought about that. The Dudley boys being the road warriors and you're absolutely
right. I never thought of it that way. And then you had Chris Jericho was kind of their,
you know, pick a guy, mid-carried guy. He was their Jeff Hardy back then. Didn't you
had? Yeah. Taz was your stone cold. Steve Austin. Then and Rob Band-Anne was your
breath. The Hitman Harner with it. He was a submission guy that never lost the television
title for four years was never pinned. But then you stop paying your talent. Yeah. Then
your TNN contract goes to put in your out of business. Right. My next thing is, and
something I was thinking about last night is watching Evan Bournem. Excitable. Excitement
can't work to stick to save his life. But watching him and how they're pushing him
right now. My question is, and I actually said this as, as we were watching, there's
a bunch of us that watch it, Sports City Cafe, and Muskeet. If you come out on Monday
night, join us, we have a great time. Uh, convince use him as a bargaining chip against Ray
as contract. Because to me, it's, we all know raising contract negotiation. That's
why he's got the belt right now. But convince, show him a guy like Evan Bournem on television
and go, I don't need you as much as you think I need you. Because I've got this guy over
here who's basically is the American you and younger and faster now. Yeah. Ray, Ray,
honestly, let's be honest, his best days are way behind him. I don't. His base for business
days in my opinion were behind him before he jumped before he was forced to jump. Yeah.
The thing about Ray is, Ray can be a guy. I've never actually in things I've read and
think it's things I've heard. I've never known him to be a battle locker room guy. And
I think Vince wants a lot of things going on in his locker room with, with the NXT guys
with all these new catch jumping. Evan Bournem's a guy that needs, needs a lot of work as far
as, look as far as on the microphone. But in the ring, I think he's very polished. He
scares the hell out of me because he'll take a risk and he'll take a hell of a bump. And
I think like he did last night, I think that RKO was one of the sickest things I've ever
seen. I think the days of Ray Mysterio taking the
big crazy bump through the table, he's just not there anymore. Every time he's turned
around, he's either hurting someone or hurting himself. And that was my next point is, you
know, as whether you, for those you're listening and follow such things, he's the reason you
don't have the undertaker right now. He broke the undertaker's orbital lobe and his nose
in a match on Smackdown. Is which I would love to see what that sweating pictures looked
like after that surgery? If I'm dead, so I'd probably just go ahead and release him.
Let Dixie throw him to the loaves. Yeah, literally in some cases. I just, I don't know.
I don't know if it because it's not like it's the first time he's done it. If you want
to cite a precedent, you could cite Kennedy. Yeah, got because that whole deal with him
and Orton, I kind of felt bad for the dude because yeah, you heard a guy. But was that
fireable? Did Orton have that much stroke in the locker room? It's like he does there.
I mean, let's be honest. In my opinion, I know you agree with this. We've had it in
casual conversation. To me, the best day of Randy Orton is five years ago and he's 29
years old. Yeah, and that's sad to me because the kids got the talent pretty soon. He'll
be at a he'll be at a comic consign autographs. That's a legend at 32. Yeah, like like Rick
should be. But that's that's a whole other conversation for a whole other podcast.
Kennedy just can't. The thing with Kennedy is yeah, he they've just so missed used him
so bad over there. And I think if Ray does jump, he can go back to AA or CML or I can
else Silver O or whatever or LaParca or Silver King or whatever they're calling those guys
of Andy. El Dandy or Volano one and two and whatever.
Conkeys the doors. Xbox air. Is that where he is back in the end? They're kind of video
game. Triple A in the video game in a month. Really? I know. I know they're going to say
luchador game that's been postponed. I read today on we fan. But in that deal, you're
guaranteed to always have a Spanish announce table. That would point. Hey, we I missed
the amigos. I want to touch on this very briefly because there's really not much we
can talk about here. Finally, finally tonight, the next is shows up on a show that's not
wrong. Yeah. Fine. I will be rowing DVR as I always do. I just I wonder I wonder they've
got to do this on Smackdown for this thing to have any water. You have to do this on all
three shows. Yeah. Because if we remember the early days of the NWO, even even then you
had you had they when you had thunder, they showed up on thunder when you had you know,
you had Saturday night, they showed up on Saturday night. You can't have them just on
one show. I think you're one of the only people in America that actually remembers Thursday
not thunder dog on right. I do. Well, that was that VCR was set three nights a week. My
VCR was I was going through VCR's like water at one point because you had two shows on Monday
night. You had a show on Wednesday night. You had a show on Thursday night. You had a show
on Saturday. Sometimes you had two shows on Saturday. I made an event. Well, you know, all
that's going to do is help Smackdown's rating because let's be honest. There's nobody
over there drawing any type of heat to me that makes me want to buy a pay-per-view with
them on it. At least we're not doing the separate pay-per-views. See, that was going
to be my next question because you mentioned that and we have to get rid of the brand separation
at some point. This has to die. It's run its course. I know it was cool. It was fun. It
was great when you had the WCW guys in there that were the big guys that made it interesting.
Now I think it's if Smackdown, if Edge is mad at somebody backstage, Michael Hayes, a
book or something, he jumps to Raw. You've got Orton at Raw trip, who knows where he's
going to go or if when he's going to be back. I think Smackdown has nothing that makes
me want to turn the television set and watch that show right now other than maybe Nexus
come in and whooping somebody down. Yeah, and that's what they need. Okay, so then as
we wrap up our WW talk for current, my next question and my last question in this category
is as follows. Are you looking forward to money in the bank on Sunday and why or why
not? Why? To me, the why is somebody takes always takes a hell of a bump and you're always
going to get a bump, you're always going to get a guy that does something just totally
unbelievable as far as, you know, I hate to, he's no longer with the company. This match
will miss a Shelton Benjamin that will climb the ladder, will do the bit, will do whatever
he needs to sell himself, sell the crowd, do whatever. That match to me does not have
that guy. But do you replace him with Christian? Yeah, the Christian will take a bump. I think
Jay will take a bump for you. I don't think those days are fast, but I'm going to tell
you what, they better do something with him or they've wasted three years of his time.
He has to win this. Yeah, he has and the fact that he has to win Smackdown makes it even
worse to me. Yeah, you lost yourself there. You went wrong way with the switch. Hello,
sorry. The thing about it is you've got a situation with him where he went from a whole
entire promotion TNA. That was pretty much other than the angle came after that. That
was the first guy that came from Vince. Okay, from Vince. Okay. They got in Vince's
camp and said, we're taking that guy. And I think just like Hardy though, his TNA stint
was the best possible situation for him because it taught him things that it almost seemed
like Vince didn't want to take the time to teach him. Didn't want to groom him. Didn't
want him to have to take a step backwards. I think I forgot, you know, I forget. I remember
the last night he was here was in Dallas, Texas, if you remember. Was it really? As I
Smackdown and he was in some crazy gimmick match was the last time we ever saw him in the
next day. A website reported he was he was no longer with the company and then two weeks
later, his real name Christian Cage. So that's the first name he used and then J Russo
being his real name. I wish J the best. I got I need to see the gold or some type of
gold around his ECW one good enough. Not for a guy that could and I'll tell you another
match. Another match up going to the money to bank that I think needs a little heat
around it. If you're going to do Morrison and and D. B. O. C. two of the young studs future,
put a belt on one of them. Make it. I don't exactly you do have one. Yeah. Well, yeah.
I'm talking one that's recognized except for maybe a handful of people except Steve Austin
Ted D. B. O. C. Virgil. Maybe Dusty Rose. Maybe once. But you got to get a belt around
Morrison who is supposed to be the future Sean Michaels type career path tag team champ.
I see champ. I'm putting ECW title and I intercontinental belt on the same level and then at that
point, I can understand that. Yeah. And then but you've got I think you've got to get
some heat around a rivalry. If it's kind of like NXT, if it's booked correctly, can really
revolutionize this business. But now you're kind of like we're going to fight over just
who's the worst might because they're both horrible and sick. Yeah. Morrison is not good.
I will say this D. B. O. C. has gotten better in Maurice just nothing but hold him back.
Maurice. Don't even get me started man face. What we're going to do now is I'm going to
I'm going to leave this next part to you. You've done some research and one of the features
we're going to have is going to be features. This week in wrestling history for those of
you that aren't fans, you can start to get educated with things like this. And if you're
not a fan, you've probably fast forwarded this portion right now. But I'm going to hand
this over to Cody while he gives you this week in wrestling history July the 13th, 2010.
Everybody was a wrestling fan. They were a kid rock and wrestling. Absolutely.
Cartoon, Hogan, we all know this. But some of this goes back a little deeper net and
I'll be honest July this week, July 11 through the 18th. Very WCW heavy because they did
summer pay reviews, bash to beach, great American bash, etc, etc, etc. Vents did not really
embrace the summer pay for view except summer slam, the King of the Rings stuff like that
came later. We're going to start out in Minneapolis where Jean Kinnitsky. The great Jean Kinnitsky.
It defeats the great Vern Gagne in Minneapolis to win his first of four AWA world titles
about that Gagne didn't drop just a hell of a lot. And that was the thing I liked about
Gagne though. He wasn't one of these guys of I'm not dropping this belt to anybody like
Jared in the first full year of TNA. If Gagne thought you could carry the company, he would
do it. But like you said, didn't drop it to a lot of people. But the fact that Jean held
it four times tells you what you need to know. Yeah. Yeah. Here's one near and dear crank
up the band, get holy and the boys out and throw that. Make that a brother, a conic symbol
with your hand. 1987, great American bash, Greensboro, North Carolina, horsemen country.
Lex Luger defeats Nikita Kohloff to win the United States heavyweight title with the help
of J.J. Dylan and the four horsemen when Tully Blanchard nails Nikita with a chair as J.J.
distracts the ref typical horseman fashion. Absolutely. Also that night. The Russian
Nightmare from that mistake. Rick Flair defeated the remember the one of the greatest
bits Rick ever did to feature Jimmy Garvin in a cage when the AWA title and a date with
precious. If you remember that bit Jimmy Garvin dresses up like a woman and so on. That's
on. That's not on the horseman DVD. Yes, that's on the first set. No, it's on the
cover. Yeah, that's right. The ultimate Rick Flair collection, which we've done later
would be not great. It's great bits of Rick's history. Of course, in wrestling to me is
seeing Jimmy Garvin in drag and it's great or not. And he had it. Didn't he have like a
polo shirt on under the dress? It's very weird. A champagne. It was a robe and it wasn't
even a suite. It was just like your basic B flat hotel hiding in the closet. Rick come
back to us, Rick. Or leave us with the memories we have. I think it's what we're meeting
at this point. And I usually won't do this. But in 1989, Stan Hansen and Janizo Tariyaki
when they all Japan tag team titles, whatever. But you know, it's still around. Those titles
are still around. Currently held by who? I think it was a Dudley boy. It's uncorrect.
In Gary. Indeed. All Japan, the IWGP. Yeah. This one here, great American bash. Like
I said, very WW heavy today. Gray Civic Center and Albany, Georgia. Never heard of that.
The Gray Civic Center and Albany. I've heard of Aldi, New York. I've never heard of an
animal. There is an Albany, Georgia. It's a Vader defeat sting for the WCW. My leader
title that night. And never understood why we had to push him. And why we had to put him
in a in a leather mask. Very. Would you call that a mask? Because it's not like you cover
it up real much. Well, mankind, Nick Foley copied it for years almost. That's true. And
also that night. Yeah. Terry Bam Bam Gordy and Steve Williams, Williams at that point,
not all just in defeat. Dustin Rhodes and Barry Wyndham for the WCW tag team championships
that night. Dustin Rhodes, he's a guy I want to get to in a later podcast because I don't
if I start talking about it, we're going to end up on it for 10 minutes. But I want
to talk about Dustin later down the road because I think that right now, WWE is missing
a huge boat with him. Yeah. And I want to address that later on. And this is kind of
the, this, this is, and this is the era that that really, we're really talking about.
Remember in 1998 when it seemed like WCW had an athlete invasion, the professional athlete
wanted to get in the ring. Goldberg, Steve McMichael here today, this is actually a day.
Yeah, I think of it. If you remember this, the, the, the, the great giant now known as
Paul White, big show, et cetera, pin Kevin Green at the 1998, great, excuse me, bash the
beach, Cox Arena, San Diego, California, beautiful town. Also, you had Goldberg defeat
Kurt Henning as the disciple in his corner. The disciple, I'm good lord. And the biggest,
one of the biggest, I bought this. I remember I worked, I was in line out of high school,
working at Kroger saving my money. I actually bought this paper view. Hulk Hogan and
Dennis Rodman defeat DDP and Carl Mulan. Carl Mulan, yes. You remember that? That was
when they had a little bit on the tonight show. Yeah. Yeah. And that was, as I'm seeing,
I'm not mistaken. The winner of that got the title. If I'm not right, wouldn't that
a tag team match with the titles? The title was on the line. I will neither confirm nor
deny that because I don't think that's correct. And if we go, let's go fast forward July 13th.
Kevin and Carrie Von Erich defeat King Kong Bundy and Bugsie Mahone. Never heard of him.
For the WCCW tag team titles at the beautiful state of the art sport of Torielman in Dallas,
Texas. God rest it's all saying it two years later. Iceman King Parsons defeats the general
Chris Adams for the WCCW general. Excuse me, the gentleman. Gentlemen.
Absolutely. The gentleman Chris Adams for the American title, which was pretty much world's
classes equivalent to the Intercontinental. And 1986, Great American Bash Charlotte,
North Carolina, Rick Flair defeats Ricky Morton in a steel cage for the NWA title.
Two more left. How did Ricky Morton get a title shot? All I know is you're a tag team wrestler.
And great tag team rock and roll express brother. Don't go, don't go me sideways. But yeah,
how do you get it? You get a shot. All I know is that Rick was on the on on camera with one of
your your girlfriend's training brawls. One night is Saturday night went off the air there. I don't
know. And two here, two here that really is kind of funny. 1993 Lex Luger slams Yoko Zuna on the
USS. Did he really? Because I've seen I was watching the footage last week. Look like there may have
been a wonder gorilla press. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I just kind of, I mean, Hogan slamming
Andre. No, Andre, big John Stutt. Yeah, what I was thinking. That was a slam. Even Andre,
that was a slam. Yoko Zuna, that was more of like a fall. And just think about that. That was really
supposed to turn into Lex Luger. One of my favorite wrestlers, Vince agreed to get a hold of this.
I know he's had some problems. You really got to look at him in your Hall of Fame class.
If WrestleMania is in Atlanta next year, great career. Too bad it was shamed afterwards.
That was supposed to be the beginning of a title run. Yeah, he got drunk at a bar in Manhattan.
Told everybody was going to happen night before WrestleMania 10 MSG. It wasn't supposed to be
Bret Hart to go out that night. It was supposed to be Lex Luger. He screwed Lex on that deal.
Typical shows up on Rawl. I mean, Nitro a year later. But there were some names involved in that
slam competition. If you have athletes and wrestlers. Wasn't Lawrence Taylor? That's true.
It was one. Now you're going to make me think. Matt Millen. Matt Millen, really?
Matt Millen. The failed Lions president who still has a job somehow. That's a, that's a,
that's a month's worth of that. Yeah, that's coming. That's coming in the fall because we
don't want to get too far ahead of ourselves with NFL talk just yet. Bob Backlin.
Never know how he wore a title. I'll never understand how he wore a title spared me to death.
A guy that I always liked till the Royce took over his first Scott Steiner.
Yes, Steiner, pre-Royd's top 10 tag team of all time.
Top five. Oh, for sure. Steiner brothers.
How neither one of them is Hall of Fame right now is beyond me.
Another guy that I would love to know what happened to, what happened to Zatanka?
Zatanka, remember, he showed up a couple of years ago. Yeah, I guess he's just
part of the Jericho Legends thing. Hall of Fame. He is in the Hall of Fame. Has a ring.
Crush. God rest his soul. Greg Bryan Adams.
Of course, the Macho Man Randy Savage got two shots. Got two shots.
And I can't, why can't him? I can't think just in my eyes.
That's another podcast for another day is the Macho Man story.
In my opinion, this next day, this day, very day, 1999. Okay.
Raw doubles the Nitro rating as raw pulled in a 6.2.
Raw has now been about the low, low fours high threes, which is normal.
And the Nitro draws a 3.3. And I think if now we know now what we know, then
Sid versus Kevin Nash for the title as your main event on WCW Nitro. That is your title,
match. And over on the other dial, I believe that was spiked TV at that point in time.
You had the Rock in Triple H. You had the Rock in Triple H in the Steel Cage for the World title.
What do you watch it? Yeah. Oh, I mean, I'm at that point, I'm videotaping both of them.
I mean, that's pretty nice. That's pretty tough. If you want me to mention something,
you may know more than I do. Or you want to email a date, something, talk about a certain
federation. Rob's from Florida. I'm from here locally in Dallas. A big world class heavy.
Any questions about world class? We know that Florida championship wrestling.
Absolutely. You know a lot about that. If I miss something, if I miss informed,
hey, man, get on. Tell me about it or something. Let me talk about. Look up something.
I'll do it. You want to tell him how to get a hold of it?
That is on Facebook. And you can search Cody Hawkins. And it comes up as that.
And just leave me a message. Shoot me a message. And I will get on it.
Now, some stuff, you know, we're working with the magic of the internet.
Some of these days, not might be exact, but it did happen this week.
Greatest hotmail handle of all time. Probably Hawk 3.
That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying.
Hawk 3-9 at hotmail.com.
Some of you will get that and some of you won't. And that's okay. We will address that later on.
I want to switch now to what is almost a week old. And if you can believe it, it was a
week ago in, I guess, two days, because this will be Tuesday.
The LeBron James tsunami is the only way I can describe this thing.
I was on my way home from a business trip. I actually made it home to watch the decision.
And as Cody said, I am from Florida. I support my Florida teams.
The heat being one of them. And let me put that disclaimer on this.
I am a day one, literally, Miami Heat fan. 1987-ish.
I'm there. Yeah, there's going to be certain people in this town.
And if they listen to this there, we don't, you know, hang your honors on this deal.
I've bestowed one man to run the mail to heat. It's this man.
I didn't see many heat jerseys in Dallas this past NBA season.
Especially in 2006. But anyway,
the refs cost us that man.
Don't even get me started.
A lot of people are saying a lot of things.
And to any of our fans in Cleveland,
get over it. Exactly.
Because this man gave you six years.
Count them.
Children that were born the day he were drafted are wrapping up the first grade.
And your team couldn't build enough of a supporting cast to win the title.
Yeah, you know, Cleveland, Cleveland really, if you really think about it,
I can remember a time when we've heard things,
we've heard things come out to the point that John Luke is saying that he was asked to lose to get him.
I know that there was dicey things with him in college.
I mean, high school, excuse me, the, the Hummer, his mother and a house and stuff.
So really LeBron James was had no chance to go into college.
Cleveland drafts him and all of a sudden, he becomes Michael Jordan in a town that really
hissed historically. We're in that number to help.
Other than the Browns Championship in 64 and two Indians,
one against my boys, Marlins, two, two just horrible world series trips.
When you caught the Yankees on a down year, that's pretty much your winning.
And I just, I don't get it.
I mean, I can understand nobody wants to play in Cleveland.
God bless you, Cleveland.
But you put, you tell anybody, I'm going to give you two options.
You can live in Cleveland or you can live in Miami.
I'll give you 99 out of 100 because I'll give you one.
I'll give you 1%.
He actually took less money than Cleveland was going to offer.
So all of you people bitching about the money.
Yeah, 110 over five years, that's a lot of money.
But you know what? It's not 120.
Yeah, you know, the thing about that is is,
LeBron has said it best several times.
He doesn't want to be 31 with no rings and bad knees and bad knees.
And you know, you're going to get bad knees when your back hurts from carrying an entire team
on your back and holy entire town.
Yeah, I think one thing about LeBron LeBron,
he had to do it was good for LeBron.
So I don't hate because I know I've done things in my life that's good for Cody and Rob
vice versa. Absolutely.
It comes time to win championships.
You don't, I know Jersey sales are nice.
Posters and kids rooms are nice.
Nike's nice McDonald's nice.
Sprite with a little puppets and whatever.
That's nice.
You got to win rings.
And LeBron is a player that's very concerned about his legacy.
He's very concerned about how do I compare to Cody,
Magic, Bird, even,
even of course Michael Jordan.
But even some guys now that he's playing against it have rings.
The Wayne Wade being a now a teammate.
But he look like a guy like Chris Paul, Ray Allen, Kevin Garnett.
They can always trump LeBron going, look at me.
I won.
Ask Alex Rodriguez.
Exactly.
What it's like to finally win one.
Get that monster being told you're the guy for so long.
You know, like you said, to get that monkey off your back.
It's and to me it wasn't the money.
The guy wants to win and just because he didn't sign with your team.
And let's let's put the shoe on the other foot.
If you know me well enough, you know.
Let's let's say by some bureaucratic staff.
Because remember, I gave you three scenarios.
Exactly.
I gave you the scenario one, which is the one that happened.
I gave you scenario two where Dwayne goes home.
And LeBron joins him in Chicago.
Okay.
And then I gave you three, which was the long shot.
But I wouldn't put in the past anyone where he winds up in a purple and gold.
Man, could you imagine that night if he just threw it off and said,
you know what, I remember the LA Lakers and basketball shuts down for at least four years.
Because Kobe's, Kobe's over the Kobe's like Butch Cassidy.
He's on the horse.
The sun's behind him.
And Kobe's getting ready to just get the end of the day.
Kobe's Kobe.
Yeah.
You know, you you can say, yeah, he's only taking 20 foot jumpers now.
But you know what, at the end of the day, if I got to put the ball in somebody's hands
with a half a second left on a clock from 20 feet, he's on that list.
Yeah, but you remember Jordan late in his career, especially the two jazz championships.
The days of Jordan Duncan from the from the free throw line and some of the wild where he's just
facing just putting facials on people.
Jordan was a jump shooter.
And I think that's one thing about LeBron is LeBron gets older.
He's got to fix that shot.
It's not as smooth on his fluid.
Well, plus, and I think he's going to have time to do that now.
Because he doesn't have to worry about, okay, do I got to go out there and play 48?
And do I have to put 55 on the board for us to win?
And, and I also say that I apply that same principle to Dwayne Wade.
Yeah.
Dwayne Wade since Shaq left has been like, can somebody get me some help in this time?
Yeah.
And he's had good guys around them, but he's never had the guy.
No.
And now he has the guy where and and I like what LeBron said that he's going to play on Dwayne Wade's team.
He understands that yes, at the end of the day, I am LeBron James.
But at the same time, I'm now the new kid at a different school.
Yeah, and I think that's one thing Chris Bosch needs to learn real well.
This isn't the Raptors.
This isn't a hockey town.
That ever now and then you sold out a basketball game.
He's on to understand that, hey, bro, you're if I'm Superman or
and LeBron's Batman because there's one A1B, you might be Robin one night.
You might be the Green Lantern the next.
If we're doing this super friend type thing like the Hall of Justice, like they made this out to be,
I think you've got two bonafide superheroes in LeBron and Dwayne.
I think with Chris Bosch, it gets hairy.
Can he can he handle 14?
I think he gets bored.
I think he gets it and I'll tell you why.
If he didn't get it, they would have never have all gotten together.
I'll be honest and I know our next topic is right along this same line here.
To me, they got to win.
They got to win two or three.
And that was going to be my next question is, what are the realistic expectations for this year?
I'm not saying title this year because I think by automatically crowning them
in the Denny Green sense of the word.
And boy gosh, his kids in trouble in me.
I don't think, I mean, title would be great.
Oh yeah.
Don't get me wrong, but I'm not going to put, I'm going to say,
Eastern Conference Finals, I'm going to say, I could even go NBA Finals because I don't know
if these guys stay healthy.
And that's the other thing people have to understand.
If these guys stay healthy, and you know, the heat has gotten a couple of role players in there.
But if they get there, they're definitely Eastern Conference Finals.
There's no, I don't see them not going at least that far.
Unless the rumors that people are hearing, I know, let's not.
The nicks are trying to do a deal with Carmelo Anthony and Chris Paul.
That won't happen.
But didn't the nuggets already say we're not getting rid of Carmelo?
I don't know.
He's going to be here.
So shut up.
I think if you're New York, the only choice you have to give away your draft the next two years,
give away all your first round picks.
If you want a guy like Melo and Chris Paul, there's no way they get both.
But anyway, I don't see anybody in the East.
You've got an aging Celtic team.
You've got a Dwight Howard who, to me, he's a paper tiger.
He's a guy who's really tough in the regular season.
But when it gets to the playoffs, he's like a LeBron.
He doesn't have a guy he can dish on the perimeter or somebody drive the paint
besides him and get points.
Yeah, I just don't see anybody in the East being able to hold back.
And now you've got Miller, he's a great role player.
All my Emmy needs is a couple BJ Armstrong's and a couple Steve Kerr's
and a couple Michael Finley's and a couple Sohn and so forth.
See where I'm going.
All they need some guy to come up the bench or do something and get
and maintain, maintain.
Yeah, maintain a little defense.
Keep them from scoring as much as you are.
I know we'll have to see it.
But you tell me you give me starting three against L.A.
Starting five, we talked about this the night it happened.
Mm-hmm.
I just, man, I have a hard time seeing where Lamar Odom can hold Chris Bosh.
And D Wade and Andrew Bottom, who's been hurt since he got there.
Yeah.
And Wayne Coby's Coby.
But Derek Fisher, you re-sign a point guard for, I think, you overpaying.
Miami wanted him for less money.
Yeah.
But.
And I respect that.
I respect Fisher going back to.
I would have loved to have had him on the team.
Yeah.
Having you done his haslam back, I think, is huge.
And a lot of people don't understand that as well.
Is when you look at the numbers, Wade has eight million less on his contract
than the other two.
And that was because he wanted to free that space for haslam.
I got a question for you.
Mm-hmm.
Basketball town or still a football town?
Right now, it's a basketball town.
And I'll tell you why, because the dolphins have been so bad for so long.
Well, we don't get too much in that.
Right now, I mean, right now, it's a basketball town.
I just heard that on a national show today.
It was just...
Miami right now would say basketball town.
Now, ask me that question again near Halloween.
The answer might be different.
Might, I can't say will be, because at that point,
we're about to start NBA season.
Yeah, we're about to see what this thing really does.
And I'm going to say this, and I told you this.
If the finals end up being Miami and the Lakers,
write it down.
Listen to me now.
Believe me tomorrow and hear me next week.
If this happens, highest rated finals in 25 years.
Since showtime in the Celtics.
You have not had, you know,
Muhammad Ali versus Superman.
Yeah, I haven't since then.
And I think, hopefully,
and the thing about it is, if Miami goes, they need to win it.
Because I think you're going to have a ton of namesayers out there.
Cross this country going, look, you still can't beat Kobe.
You still can't beat Phil Jackson.
Nobody beats LA.
I think you're still going to get that.
If Miami goes for the sanity of probably their fans,
management, and for all these haters and these namesayers out there,
tell you what, man, there's a lot of people that don't know nothing about sports,
fashion, LeBron, nationally, anything you listen to into the day.
You are judged on what you have on your fingers.
That's any sport, any sport, Dan Marino,
there's a knock on him.
There's a knock on Dan Marino.
Best quarterback to never win a ring.
Yeah, you, LeBron didn't want to be Charles Barkley.
He did not want to be a guy that went through his career with no jewelry.
And really, one NBA final San Antonio Sweeping,
a very sub-par San Antonio team swept him.
Does Shaq wind up there?
San Antonio.
Although, they got that foreigner.
They got that foreigner drafted.
The only thing Shaq's going to have to realize,
Shaquille Newell has to take him amid a mid-level option.
He's going to have to be a guy that's probably a low,
you know, the lowest salary an NBA is, right?
It's $400,000 a year.
Pay me that on San Antonio bench.
That's what Shaq might get a million.
I think Shaq's a guy right now that he's a 300, maybe 500 grand guy.
And I think he's a ring chaser.
I think there's only reason he ended up in Cleveland last year,
because he thought he was enough to push the king over the top Celtic series.
That was just brutal.
Garnett, it showed you how old and slow Shaqille Newell was.
And it made me think, oh, there's Cubans boy, he'll end up in Dallas.
I just, and Cuban, love you.
You're great for the league.
You say you want to spend money.
Spend money.
That's all I'm saying.
That's all I'm saying.
All right, moving on.
As we are, oh, Geter just took one there.
As we are, as we are recording this,
we do have the Major League Baseball All-Sort Game on a television in my office,
as we broadcast semi-live from the office in my home.
Right now,
Geter got a nice piece of that.
Who is it?
No, that wasn't.
Geter, Geter was already on base.
Whoever followed him.
That was a cat from the Tigers.
And that's one of my things about the All-Sort Game.
And some were talking about that.
I just wonder.
Does anybody care about the All-Sort Game anymore?
I mean, I know there's something on the line here.
And we're kind of going out of order here and up.
And it's just kind of a nice segue into this.
I know you get home, home field in the World Series.
Do you?
But does A does that really, really matter at the end of the day and B?
I just, you know, here's my deal.
And I'll package this as something that is
every professional support All-Sort Game.
Is it necessary anymore?
Is it necessary anymore?
Is it?
Is it really necessary?
And I think a lot of it is, to me,
the Major League Baseball All-Star Games,
the only one that doesn't tamper
with the integrity of the fabric of the game,
it's baseball.
With the National Football League, you can't blitz.
You can't do this.
The NBA All-Star Game is no zone, no this.
Well, I think, excuse me,
I think them pulling the Pro Bowl out of Hawaii,
the show was a horrible mistake.
Yeah, because it was the only thing the player,
the player really looked forward to,
and what it did like was it gave Miami
great city, the Super Bowl quick,
the Super Bowl on a B and Miami,
and San Diego every year won't debate that,
the hell with it.
Love you, Jerry, love the stadium, New Orleans,
so be it. Miami, San Diego, that's it.
Oh, we're going to have one outdoors in New York in 2014.
But mind you, with back to the All-Star Game,
to me, the Pro Bowl is something that's fun.
It's this quarterback can put blue powder on this ball
and hit this target,
and this guy can bench press 600 pounds,
100 times in a row.
Yeah, the season's over,
the Super Bowl's over, the fans don't care,
and the NFL try to make a move
with it that really just blew up in their face.
Oh, because doing it the week between,
you're not going to have your guys that are in the Super Bowl
playing this game at all.
His name's Peyton Manning.
Yeah, and anybody that was on either one of those teams,
you know, and the whole debacle with
being there at the same time,
and I don't want to get into that right now,
but any type of All-Star Game,
it's nice.
And you know, you know,
tomorrow is one of the two days of the year
where there is no sports at all.
My wife will be happy to know that,
because she asked me that question one night
and I could not give her the answer.
So, honey, it's tomorrow.
There's two. That's one of them,
and the other one is the Depth of the Super Bowl.
And the National Hangover Day.
In this town,
we had a lot of the NBA All-Star Game
was here at Jerry World, the Death Star.
Great stadium, though.
I can't deny that.
That was fun.
That was a fun All-Star Game,
because it was almost like Jerry stick at the Cuban,
because for years, Cuban said,
I will not have the All-Star Game in Dallas,
because I will not do my season ticket holders that way.
And Jerry said, I've got the bigger house.
And nobody's screwing your season ticket holders,
because they had, remember,
they had everything else there.
It made it a way, I think,
for Dallas to kind of show itself to the NBA
All-Star Game is a dump contest.
Is a look at me, look at me, look at me.
No, no defense. No defense.
Yeah, it's just, it's pointless.
It'll be 170 to 165.
I don't think you do away with them,
but, man, are they really this important?
I know the All-Star Game,
the major league baseball All-Star Game is,
is right now, nobody wants to play in it.
C.C. Sebastian, don't want to play.
Rayon and Rivera, they don't want to play.
Why can't you take the managers
from the ALCS and NLCS that you beat to coach it?
I agree.
Let's see, I'm also of the same boat, too,
that now that the NFL is doing this Thursday night opener,
that should be a rematch of your Super Bowl.
But that's just me.
Now, let's move on to another part of that All-Star Game.
Having last night,
the home run derby.
Can we kill this thing?
Because you've got, I mean,
you had two of your major hitters
pull out of this thing within
three or four days of it actually happening
in...
I just lost it.
I know Robinson Kanau
and from the Rangers.
Josh Hamilton.
Josh Hamilton.
Because guys are saying it affects my swing the rest of the year.
Do we need this thing?
Well, Josh Hamilton is the one
and I'm not going to bag on a guy.
I'm not going to bag on a player.
He kind of started all that
because he blamed the home run contest
at Yankee Stadium,
messing up the rest of his season.
I have a hard time believing that.
But if he wants to do that, he can do that.
I think if you go from hitting
against somebody pitching 98-100
to somebody lobbing up
76-70-80, maybe, maybe-80,
yeah, that does affect your swing quite a bit.
But Kanau was a little bit.
He was told that
not to mention this last name yet to a later segment in it.
He was told by the Strombuner family
he was not going to participate in the home run derby
because he was having back spasms
and they need him for the stretch run.
And there's nothing wrong with that.
He was trumped by ownership that said,
no, you're not. I'm paying you X amount of dollars.
You are an anti-path
father time already.
Anti-pettic greatness.
Where's the top of two when he's warming up?
The home run contest to me.
I mean, you look who won it.
You look who won the thing.
Poppy.
Thanks for getting a haircut.
Poppy is a guy that, hey,
all I know is once the needle came out of his posterior
or rumored, he ain't the same player.
Oh, allegedly.
And I've got people in Boston that love him,
think he's great, think he's their Mickey Mantle,
whatever. All I'm saying is,
when the Roy thing came out, he ain't the same player.
A lot of guys aren't the same player.
I mean, you can make a,
like Jose did, you can make a list.
Yeah. I mean, yeah.
I'd love to actually see that list.
I'm right there with you on that.
I just don't think it's useless.
It's something that ESPN
won the air and get Birmingham to go back, back, back, back, back, back, back.
Every time you turn around,
we'll feral in the booth last night,
beat it down even more.
Why is he there?
I like the guy, he does good movies,
but I don't need him telling me that the greatest angel of all time is,
because we all know that's no one run.
Where's your deck?
I heard a story today of them talking about,
was it Dave Winfield?
It's time brother, it's time brother to call him Mr. April.
Yeah, Mr. May. Mr. May is out there.
I got some stuff on that later on.
Okay, let's see what else.
One of the things that we want to talk about is how does,
if you've got a rank,
you're all star games.
And we'll limit it to the four majors.
Yeah. Because one thing,
and this is a sport that doesn't do much for me,
but I was down in Houston last week,
and I don't know if you're aware,
but Houston is the hope,
the home for your MLS all star game this year.
Major League Soccer.
No, that was a World Cup.
Let's see how they're doing it though.
All of your major league soccer all stars are on one team.
And they're playing some other country.
They're playing Manu.
Really? I like that.
And I said, you know what?
I'm going to give credit to that because that's kind of cool.
I like that. Maybe where I'll do it in the NFL
is have all our teams and they can just fire up Florida.
There's more NFL talent than a lot of NFL teams do.
We've been accused of less.
But I mean,
and I'm going to limit again to the big four.
Yeah. Football, basketball,
hockey, baseball.
I want you to rank them lowest to highest on women.
Because to me,
it's one A-1-1-A-1-B-1-C
because it's a level playing field for me.
Yeah. I want to see from your standpoint,
how do you rank them?
Well, I could actually, and you know what,
when it comes to y'all star game, I'm a venue guy.
Right. Honestly,
Angel Stadium, Anaheim does nothing for me.
Finway, Riggly, Yankee Stadium does.
The pro bowl to me is the lowest one.
Because I think the players are worn out.
The Super Bowl has been played.
They've played a grind of a season.
Yeah, they get their money.
But to me, Honolulu, come on.
You host a low-high bowl every year.
Week bowl to me.
You can't blitz. You can't hit.
You've taken everything out of football if you can't hit.
I'll tell you what, I actually watch some of the hockey
y'all star game. And I like that.
That's the world. It's kind of an MLS thing.
Right. Canada wins. The world wins every year.
That's true.
You know, but...
Is the over under like 40 goals.
Yeah, but I do like, and I like some of their skills competition.
I love their skills competitions.
So, and then I think basketball.
Basketball is fun. If you take the weekend,
I hate the balls. I hate the, do we need a mascot dunk contest?
Do we need a three-point contest?
Do we need a three-point contest?
I like the three-point contest.
I like the NBA skills competition.
I think that's kind of neat.
The legend current WNBA...
No, the rookie sophomore game, I like.
I enjoy that.
But I'm talking about the thing where they take the one WNBA player,
the legend and the current player.
They're taking half court shots for an hour and a half.
I'll tell you what, he's starting to commissioner.
He'll trick it up. He'll change the game on you.
He's been there too long,
but he'll trick the game upon you.
And then I still think the all-star game, I like it.
Now, two things.
They don't mess with the fabric of the game.
True.
They play baseball.
Two things.
Let everybody wear different uniforms.
I hate the American national jersey.
No, they're doing that tonight.
No, they're in all this different uniforms tonight.
I like it. Now, there's been times in the past,
like it was when it was here in Texas, in Arlington.
They wore the American national jersey.
I don't like it. I like to see the home-run derby and everything else.
That's fine.
As mid-game, I need to see Derek Geter and Pinch drives.
I need to see some of these guys in their uniforms.
Not national American.
Some tricked up Anaheim logo on it.
That's just one of my opinions.
To me, though, can you apply that to all sports?
Because I just...
I wonder...
You know, because I kind of like it in the NHL All-Star game
that they're wearing those separate jerseys.
I like it in East-West in the NBA All-Star game.
You know, how does...
I kind of think it's cold because it's the only time
you're going to see it.
And, you know, of course, it's going to do nothing but create more revenue.
Because you're going to want that team's all...
That player's all-star jersey.
But...
Say, and you talk about when it was here in Texas,
I actually went to FanFest when it was here
and got the little thing on my fitted braves hat.
And I had a blast.
And I just...
I really hope...
And we're going to talk about this in a future semi
because I want to talk about
Super Bowl time in Arlington.
That's not going to twist it.
And in Dallas, it's Arlington.
And that's a whole topic of itself.
But I definitely want to get into that.
The experience itself.
I have...
I had a blast when I was there.
We're going to see how it works out in Dallas.
Now, now we've talked about
the Major League Baseball All-Star game.
Let's go back and look at...
We are, of course, now that we're at the All-Star break.
Halfway, the halfway point of the season.
No team leads their division
by more than four and a half games.
And that is...
Well, no, that would not be.
That would be the Texas Rangers.
I'll go backwards.
They are now four and a half up in the ALS.
For another week.
All that tells me is you just got swept by Baltimore
and you're still four and a half up.
Sweat by a team that going into that series
is a year.
I'm not sold yet.
We don't want to regionalize this.
But we live in this all year long
and it's the same thing till this very day.
And you ever suffer through this every year?
I've seen this, I've done this.
No, I will say this.
When was the last time they had this kind of a lead deal?
They've got a lead.
Vladimir Guerrero's is...
We don't know how old he is.
He may be Danny Amante.
No, but I've seen it.
That was when we came across that Yankee's every year.
We're swept. I think we won one game.
But there's been a couple editions this time that I think are great.
Vladimir Guerrero...
He's an all star.
If you're watching the game right now.
He's up to bat.
Yeah, absolutely.
Great edition.
He's like Danny Amante.
He's 140.
For all we know.
He might be the oldest Castro for all we know.
He may be Castro.
We're not sure.
Another team, another division, wacky division, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the, the
A.O. Central Chicago has come out of the deaths to lead that thing of the all-star break
by a half game over Detroit.
Still not sold.
Uh, this, that team is in turmoil.
It is.
They are offered a rumor that they are thinking about, uh, making a reality show about that
team.
Aren't that true or not?
Oh, I know that, that, I'll see.
That worked.
Ozzy got a Twitter account.
Yeah.
And that, they said that, that was kind of someone they thought was pushing the limit.
Exactly.
And didn't he get like a YouTube channel?
Yeah.
He's got a huge Ozzy TV or something real wheels off, but they are in a situation that
you got Minnesota Detroit.
That's a, that's a conference or excuse me, a division that's yo-yo, yo-yo teams, yo-yo
teams up, down, up, down, up, down.
And I think that's going to go back and, back and forth.
Now you move to the division where I think your world champion comes out of.
And that is the, uh, the AL East.
The AL East.
And, uh, the team in first place, as usual, best record in baseball, uh, best home record,
best road record.
They are the New York Yankees and they don't look like they're slowing down at all.
They didn't need Cliff Lead, been nice to have him.
They have a great farm system.
They, they are, they are saying the next Pudge is behind their plate and one that are all
star affiliate.
I mean, excuse me.
Monolith affiliates.
Um, they're up by two on Tampa.
Scrappy.
Watch Tampa.
Long go.
Yeah.
They're, they're, they're ruined your day.
Yeah.
And I'll be, I'll be seeing them live next month and I'm going to bring you a report on that.
But, um, I want to touch on the Cliffly thing.
Yeah.
And all I want to say about the Cliffly deal is I don't blame Saturday night on Cliffly.
No.
Absolutely not.
You can't get a guy off a plane and put him on the mound.
Exactly.
And a lot of people were, I mean granted, this guy was not going to be, is he's not the
guy that's going to win you the World Series.
Yeah.
So, is he here 365 days from now?
I'm not guaranteeing that.
I know that he wants a no trade clause when he gets his new contract.
He said that today.
It's not going to be in this town.
I don't think, uh, I don't want to get an arranger sale, ranger.
I don't want to do that.
I'm tired of hearing about it.
I've got my head hurts.
Yeah.
Literally.
Um, I would have to be shocked if you did not see him Cliffly become a New York Yankee
next year.
Um, I really think you've got some guys in New York on the line with the a rod in Jeter
and I think they're really going to expect ownership, especially what happened today.
Um, really step up the game and show and keep that stomping or tradition that we're going
to go out and get the biggest guy, the biggest bat, the biggest on the biggest glove, and
we're going to win the championship.
And you know what?
Let's talk about that.
The day of the All Star game, you called me this morning.
I was actually on my way to work picking up a little breakfast to inform me that it
4 a.m.
Eastern time today in the great city of Tampa.
I got family there.
I'll be there next month.
Again.
Of course, they'll be playing the Orioles.
Don't really the reason I'm going is train playing a concert after the game fear the
Oriole.
I'm watching trains playing a concert after the game.
That's really why I'm going.
Hey, solstice.
Um, George Steinbrenner passing away.
I'm going to say it and you know I'm not a Yankee fan end of an era.
Now, it was great.
It was an end of an era when he stepped away from the team, but there's a finality to
it now.
And we'll come back to that.
And we'll do the NL.
I think you have to tie in George Steinbrenner with the A L.
Absolutely.
Uh, you know, it's funny speaking of George, um, you know, bottom from CBS 1973 for eight
million.
For eight point eight.
No, well, well, it was 10.
And there's a funny story.
I did some research.
They didn't want to come in here without a bullet in the gun.
Um, like to hear that.
Bottom for 10 million.
And at that time, CBS, the bet they owned them for eight seasons.
The best record the Yankees had with CBS only then was second in the A L. East in 1967.
And what year did he buy the team?
He bought the team in 73.
I was born.
And CBS actually sold the team for 10 million.
But George Steinbrenner owned two parking garages close to CBS studios in New York, which
he sold to CBS for 1.2 million a pot, which they took off the purchasing price of the Yankees.
He's turned 8.8 million into 1.2 billion in 30 years.
The most expensive sports franchise in the world, 11 titles, 11 pennets, seven world series
and had a 566 winning percentage.
That will never be duplicated.
Most important franchise in the world right now today.
Yes.
I'll agree with that.
I and the Cowboys fans are going to come out and draws.
And I'm going to tell you something to 27 world championships.
I didn't think and it's pure simple.
You had the lowest MLB playoffs that you're the Yankees didn't make it and I'll agree
with that.
Nobody cared.
Yeah.
Boston was great.
They beat what Colorado that year.
No, that was Tampa filling.
It was Tampa made Philadelphia.
Great story.
Philadelphia had one in a while.
Tampa's a new upstart.
Great story.
He's wearing the toilet.
No, they were in the toilet.
I think one thing about George Trombon and we're starting to, a lot of things they didn't
know about him was he has a national title ring.
He was an assistant coach on one of the Woody Hayes Ohio State national championship teams
back in 1956.
Michigan fans hate him.
So I'm sure we get all that.
They claim that he's the one that got one of their quarterbacks to join the Yankees
as a third baseman.
So just because he couldn't play against Ohio State that year, don't know if that's,
you know, that's, that's neither, neither here nor there.
If you go to Ann Arbor, it's probably the gospel.
Oh, I'm sure.
You know, his dad, he tried to buy the Indians.
He tried to buy the Indians in 1970 from Vernon Stofer.
If your wife can't cook and you like frozen dinners, you know, who Stofer's is.
Millionaire actually ended up selling.
You've been to college, you know, it's still for this.
Great lasagna.
Hey, hey man.
Takes forever to cook and fall.
But great.
And he ended up selling the Indians 10 years later for 10 million and George just took
his ball, went down the Manhattan.
And at that time, CBS was treating the Yankees like an Andy Griffiths show, a I love Lucy
Americana type feel and attendance was down at Yankee Stadium.
The stadium was horrible.
It literally still was the house that Ruth built at that time.
And George Stormbinner, wheeling dealer like he was, uh, convinced the five years later
to remodel Yankee Stadium and had to play at Shay for two years and 78 at the stadium
reopens.
Attendance is up.
And the free agents on this list, guys are unlabeled that's put on that uniform, Alex Rodriguez,
you know, Dave Winfield, Reggie Jackson, Roger Clemens, David Cone, the list goes on and
on and on.
I think if you want to win a title, you go to New York, you win your ring, everybody that
goes there successful.
He's the most successful owner ever.
I don't know, man.
Good for baseball.
I don't know.
He started an era free agent era.
Let's say it amazes me is that he passes within 48 hours of Bob Shefford, the legendary
announcer of the welcome to Yankee Stadium.
That guy, I mean, I can't do that voice, but 48 hours, you lose both of them.
Both of them.
No, both huge.
Well, George Stormbinner is a titan in this, in this business to me or this deal we call.
That's how baseball go.
Corner on Washington.
Yes, sir.
And that's, you know, that's one of them deals.
Thank you for having me.
Yeah.
One thing born on the 4th of July.
What's he really?
Not just a movie.
Not just a, no, he went in on any own to shipping company.
I mean, the stories of this guy, but one thing that I think you really, really can, can
see by him.
He started the hair.
If you remember, if you're a Yankee fan, which I am a Yankee fan, you are, hey, clean
cut.
He started the whole short hair, no beards, no moustaches.
You're going to look presentable when you're on the field.
Johnny Damon.
Yeah.
And if you, you know, the hair policy was a big deal.
Also with George had one motto that a lot of people, you want to want the man summed
up.
And one thing is, breathe first, winning second, family third, and he demanded, he goes,
every man has an extra 10% in him.
I need, I want to tap into that extra 10%.
If you work for George Steinbinder, Giambi said it best, even a manager who, let's be
honest, the Marlins fired the guy.
Yep.
Joe Torrey.
Couldn't manage it in Atlanta.
Couldn't manage in New York.
Metz.
Couldn't manage in St. Louis.
He comes New York.
We're talking to him.
He's talking to him like Sparky Anishar and Casey Stiegel.
Steinbinder could really, honestly, Jerry said it in the 90s with the Cowboys.
I don't know if the manager positions that big of a deal now.
It'll get you fired if you're not winning probably two rings over five years better than
that.
Steinbinder was with a very hard, hard, hard man.
He will be missed.
Can you mention, you mentioned Jerry David, you mentioned Jerry, you mentioned Jerry.
I can honestly answer this question.
Can you put Jerry or Cuban or any one of their ill?
Because really, and yes, we are in Dallas, and we kind of get Dallas focused sometimes.
But in this town, you have two of the most recognizable sports owners on the planet outside
of Bob Kraft.
I can't put either one of those cats in the same breath, much less the same room or the
same category of Steinbinder.
Well, the thing about Mark Cuban is he might be Steinbinder for Yomni L.A. Lakers or
the New York Knicks.
But if he owns those teams, isn't the same thing you got now, he could be.
Because I just, Jerry Bus is a jingle.
When I think about Mark Cuban, I don't know if you ever saw, there was an episode of The
Simpsons that he was a guest voice on, and he, and he convinces Mr. Burns to buy the
local basketball team.
And there's a line that he has.
And granted, I love Cuban for the fact that he can poke fun of himself, but he says this
line where he's talking to Mr. Burns and he goes, hey, wait a minute, I haven't made
a spectacle of myself in the last 30 seconds.
That to me sums up Cuban.
Yeah.
I mean, he's been great for the Mavericks.
He's made the Mavericks a recognizable brand.
He's made them a recognizable team.
To a team that really nobody cared about before.
Yeah, you know, and he bought the Mavericks Don Carter, horrible.
He was worried about home interior and bowling alley.
Yeah.
Um, Jerry, Jerry wants to be George.
Oh, Jerry wants to be George something.
Jerry wants to go on the episodes like, you know, George was on Seinfeld.
Also had an impersonation, but he's been made some real appearances.
Jerry was on Entourage this week.
I have not watched it.
It's on my DVR, but I know he's on there and I've been told Cuban's going to be on
there too.
I think Jerry is as close as you're going to get to me.
Till Mark Cuban wins an NBA title, till he wins a championship in some sport, whether
he does, if he is a partner in this Ranger deal, I think that's a smokescreen.
I think that in order for him to go, I'm one of these elite owners.
He has to win a championship.
George had seven rings, 11 penets.
He was Mr. New York.
Now we'll tell you this.
I don't know if this is as big as a loss if it is, if he owns the San Diego Padres and
the results are the same.
I think if the Padres win seven World Series and 11 penets, I just don't know with it
being in New York, New York, you know, this country is New York sports crazy.
We always think the nicks are going to win it every year in the Giants and the, now it's
J-E-T-S, Jets, Jets, Jets, Jets, that's all I've heard.
I think right if it was in another, I just had a side note looking forward to hard knocks.
I just want to say that on the side note.
I just don't know.
I think if the results were the same in a different city as in a San Diego, a Baltimore, somewhere
that wasn't New York, I don't even think it gets the same height with the Mets.
It just happened.
It's the Yankees.
It's a Maricana.
It's Babe Ruth.
It's Mickey Mouse.
Right down the mountain.
There's a reason that red, white, and blue hat sits on the bat.
I mean, that's, you know, for all intensive purposes in baseball and they used to say this
about my braves and used to annoy me.
That's America's team.
Yeah.
They are in a great segue of this.
Let's move on to the NL.
Okay.
The NL.
All I know is, if it was the launching pad and the Tomahawk chop was out, woo, don't get
me started, brother.
You know, that's my team.
Atlanta, probably the shock in the East.
I agree.
Four up on the Mets.
Young team, Bobby Cox last year, Bobby, you may want to come back, brother, because they
have a great, nucleus of young players.
They've done it the way they've always done it in hot Atlanta.
They built it through the draft and through the farm system.
They are the anti Yankee.
Yeah.
They don't do the Stormbrinner.
They don't whip out.
Who's got the biggest pencil, the biggest checkbook.
Atlanta loves to build within, glaven, smolts, you know, so on and so forth.
David Justice.
Chipper.
Chipper.
Farm guys.
They're the anti Yankee and they have also great results.
And not the Buffalo Bills of baseball because we did win one.
Did win one.
Uh, in another one, the central wacky, usually a cardinal domino division, Cincinnati
up by half game at the break.
And I love, let me, let me, I love Albert Halls, debatedly best player in baseball, but
how far does loyalty go?
He, he's, he's next year's LeBron.
I agree.
I mean, I love the fact that he resigned with St. Louis on this last go around.
He wants to win there.
He wants to be there.
But at some point, you got to go, this is starting to really frustrated.
Yeah.
I think the thing with him is different than LeBron LeBron, 25, 32 year old, slow
trigger post steroid era.
I think Albert's best days behind him.
I think it's good to probably stay, hey, you got a ring, you got a title, um, you're
the toast of the town.
Um, I have my, uh, my in laws have ties to St. Louis.
So I have some cardinal fans in my, my family, um, they tell me that they think Albert
stays because the fact he is 32 years old, probably nobody's going to pay him the type
of money.
People throw around Boston.
Of course, when he's here free agent, you think New York, Mark to share to me right
now.
He's 29 years old.
Don't make the move.
I think Mark to share a does stay in New York.
And I think if you're marked to share, where else are you going to go?
And he is so one of those guys that got a thing about Mark that concerns me.
He's hot cold.
Yeah.
You know, like a rod is, you know, he's the guy to me and a rod is just, he's, he's patient
zero in this category.
Last year, hitting home runs when you're up 15 runs and I got, and they're winning despite
Dusty Baker, they're in Cincinnati.
And I got a question.
Can you name a red, a Cincinnati red, Johnny bench, it was a red, I'll take you rose
then.
And over in the West, another shock, you know, you hear leech gum, you heard the Giants
were just going to run.
They were going to them in the Yankees in the series, San Diego's opened up a two and
a half game lead at the break over San Francisco and Carol in Colorado is, is just a game
back of San Francisco in that.
So Colorado to me, outside of when they went nuts in that one year, they're that team
that they just lived a ruin your day.
Yes.
And the Padres to me are the Rangers of the national.
I'll tell you, I was up in, I was up in actually Honeymoon, Colorado and I don't know what
that, that Denver area is fully embraced the, the, the, the Rocky, I've always kind of
been shocked how they've made it in that town, but they are, they are a team that, they're
always right.
The Broncos own that town.
Let's be honest.
Yeah, they do.
That's what, that's what's bad.
Wild card, A.O. real quick, Tampa, three up on Boston, Colorado and the Dodgers tied
for the NL Wild card, the Mets one game back.
And I'll be honest with you, surprises this year.
My main one, surprises had to be in Atlanta.
I think the Braves, they were kind of a scrap piece team with a part, let them be back.
The bunch of parts and you had Chipper, who's kind of the cornerstone and then this cat
comes off of the farm system, let me tell you people something, I've been listening
to a lot of people and they're saying, if you can keep him out of pinstripes, not the
blue ones, cut them in.
If you can keep him out of the Navy pinstripes, he is a, he's a Fred McGriff, David Justice
type player where you can build a cornerstone of an organization around that bat.
And I think they were, yeah, not out of the farm system to my knowledge.
He was straight out of the draft.
So they did draft him.
Okay.
Yeah, that was straight.
That was the thing as people were saying, you're going to start this kid straight
out and he comes out and sets the world on fire.
And I think another thing that we've got, I got two more surprises real fast.
I think it's crazy.
I think Cincinnati, and I'm in the NL as far as surprises, I know I'm kind of there.
I've got some A L ones winning despite Dusty Baker.
Never thought he was that great.
He was great when he had bonds in San Francisco, Chicago and this Cincinnati great guy.
Great guy.
Love him on the stick.
Love him in the booth.
But I don't like him on my bench.
And I think another one and I know this is beating a dead horse is San Diego, you know,
worst team in the majors last year, besides nationals.
I still think that they're the Rangers of the NL.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
I did not do the Rangers in a surprise because it's no surprise us, so it's not a surprise
to anybody else.
It'll be surprised that some people in some sections of the country that this place
still has a team.
And I think you got to go the A L Central, a division that people thought Chicago was
kind of going to run away and hide with and you still have Detroit despite being gutted
other than Verlander and some other spare guys.
I don't know where that great.
It'll hide in there.
You can bust again.
Yeah.
That's the second time Jeter's gotten bust.
And then I think, I think with Boston not being as good, I really thought Boston, you
know, they made all these moves and they were back and Yankees got the ring and it really
teed them off and they've got a disappointment and that bring me to my, to my woes, attendance.
Maybe showing up at these games baseball.
If you're not in New York or you're not in Atlanta or you're not a team that wins,
I mean, let me tell you something, listener of the podcast.
If you're ever here, if you ever, if those of you that don't live here, if you live
here, you know, if you ever come to maybe visit one of us or if you find yourself in
the Dallas area during baseball season, do yourself a solid, go see a game at that ballpark
because I've said it a million times.
I don't care who the Rangers play, honestly, I don't care if they win or lose.
If I get a ticket to the ballpark brother, I'm there because there's just something about
that ballpark that's just, I just love going there.
Two words for you, super nachos.
You know what?
You're absolutely right.
Super nachos, one hand beer and another or dollar dog night.
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
You don't dollar dog night.
Get there early.
Get you about $10 because you ain't going to go back.
Then if they run out, you can sell them for two bucks and stay here.
Exactly.
And I think that's Steinbrenner thinking.
I don't want to say Chicago Cup fan.
You're not relevant.
You're not relevant.
They are the biggest disappointment every single year in loyal fan base.
God bless them.
This team is the Rangers are closer to the World Series and the Cubs are right now.
They have nothing to farm system.
They've got an aging directly.
The best player on their team is Serrano.
And I'm not the dude from age relief.
No.
Did I say that wrong?
Soriano.
Yeah.
Serrano.
And former president on 24.
Excuse me.
And another team, Cliffley, I know Seattle.
They were supposed to be a team that was really supposed to push and they are horrible.
Horrible.
Right stadium.
Lost their best player.
Horrible.
Done.
Seattle's done.
And that is a first half wrap up.
You don't like baseball.
I'm sorry.
That's for it through it.
If you don't like that part, you're probably not going to like the next part because this
is the weekend of the British Open.
And I just want to touch on this very briefly because the tiger thing's been beaten into
the ground.
But it is a major.
Yeah.
Have you been have you been listening to any of the coverage because I'm going to taste
them and you think you think American press is tough.
Go face a British press conference.
British son.
Woo.
Brother.
And they've been pulling no punches with him.
I don't think that a.
He should have expected that because the American press can be a little, a little touchy
feeling, a little tap dancing.
But the British, the British press doesn't care.
They don't have anything at stake with you.
You've refused to talk to them.
They got 20 other guys.
They got, you know, they've got David Beckham.
They can talk about hell.
They'll talk about John daily if they've got time.
Yeah.
I've heard, you know, I don't, I don't obviously never been to Scotland.
I am, Tiger needs a win.
I think he has to win this.
I think that he has to, he needs to curve it around and figure out what's going on.
As far, I know it's tough, you know, I've never run around.
I've never, I probably not slept with 125 women at one time with a lot of allegedly.
Allegedly.
A little bit out of their confirmed order tonight to Shay.
I just think Tiger, we, we need to see that Sunday in red and that, that look.
And I think one thing about Tiger that he had or everybody, he had a mental edge over
his opponent.
He's lost that because he was bigger than life.
He was Tiger, George, he was E Tiger Woods, you know, and I think that he's still, he's
got it in him.
He just, he has to find it and I'm going to tell you this.
If I give you him versus the field, are you still taking him at this, hey, he's, he's
dominant there.
I'll never bet against him, but I might put some side money on the field just to be
safe.
The thing about this Tiger and he's great at a course like this because we're not playing
target golf.
We are hitting long drives.
It's the fairways kind of Woody.
To me, it looks like a goat ranch.
It really, well, it really does.
I mean, you, you play British Open courses.
The Lynx courses are a much different texture than we play here.
Us being both fairly novice golfers.
And I've also played, you know, those courses on Tiger Woods go.
But the, the grass is thinner.
The ball's going to move a lot quicker.
He's got to, he's got to learn, especially right now with where he's at.
He's got to dig into the bag.
Yeah.
And you know, and it's okay to lay it up a little bit every once in a while.
Now, and I think one thing about the Tiger thing that probably this, this is just a point
to a lot of fans.
And of course, me, I love the, I mean, you could not dodge a guy like Tiger Woods, you
know, kind of like Michael Jordan, the 90s, everybody became a Bulls fan in some way.
If Jordan was in the finals, you read it for the Bulls.
I think Tigers like that in a way that if it's a major, and it's Tiger, and it's Sunday,
root for Tiger.
I don't know if that's the same anymore.
I think if he's within reach, yeah, I mean, if he's two back and don't let him miss
the cut, that's all I'm saying.
Um, I live on the mound, but not a Ranger All Star.
I'm going to say it.
Yeah.
You came to this team four days ago.
Yeah.
I don't let him wear a Seattle uniform.
Yeah.
Um, I just, I, Tiger is an enigma.
He was such a, a, a, a mind.
I know that he was a cerebral assassin.
I don't want to pull that out from another totally different walk a lot of sport.
But he was a guy that he made you think you were better than him.
And at the very end, he walked away and just took, took, hey, took your girl, took
your title, took your money, took everything and ate your lunch and ate your lunch.
And I think Tiger has to get that back where people are scared, playing in, playing
in front of him, scares you.
And I think he needs to get that back.
Man, I, the field, other than Michael, sitting in, and then you put in these British guys,
your elves and your, and your, those guys, man, I just, I think Tiger should have taken
a year off.
I said that from the get-go.
I think it would have gotten worse.
I think that, I think the, he had to come back because if he didn't depress, you think
it was bad now.
They would have, he, he wouldn't have had anything to come back to, because they would
have torn him in the limb from limb so much that his return to golf would have, it might
have made entertainment tonight.
It might have.
You know, and that's one thing, I, hey, man, I wouldn't, I don't condone a lot of things.
We like to joke, like to say about, but I think once you stand before God and you take
that, that, that promise, yes, sir, I'll take that very seriously, it's called a vow
for a reason.
Yeah.
Elon was great looking.
She still is.
Hey, no was.
That's present tense, brother.
So if you're a tiger, I know there's a lot of guys.
She got a hundred million.
She's good looking.
I love what Seth Meier said about him on Saturday Night Live and the first thing broke.
He said, you know, Elon won't be within this weekend.
She's taking the kids to Switzerland.
She says, you want to know how big of a D bag tiger woods is when you'd rather put your
kids on a plane and fly towards an active volcano.
I think you're right.
Green wanted work.
Ah, that's going to be another because we got one more topic to deal with because we're
at the one 15 market this point.
I want it every week.
We're going to talk about a list and I've made our first list of the day and I haven't
really consulted you on this list because I wanted to, I wanted to read it to you and
I want your reactions there.
You go to a live sporting event as we all have as we all have and I will continue to do
as long as we don't shuffle off this mortal coil.
There are certain songs that to me need to be removed from the playlist of the stadium
or the arena.
You go to see teams in and I've given you 10 and we're going to count it down from 10
up to one from least of the worst to absolute worst of the worst number 10.
And this song just beats me down anyway.
Like if Baja Men show up in any form, I'm done.
But when who let the dogs out fires up?
This thing and if you remember when this song came out, you couldn't go to a sporting
event.
Yeah, it was kind of like, I don't know if I'm a quarterback and it's third-nate and
games on line.
I don't know if I need to hear the Baja man talking about who let the dogs out unless you
play for Georgia.
You know, yeah, or Cleveland, you know, horrible song in any walk of life.
Agreed.
Agreed.
I think it's too low.
It's too low on that.
As we go on this list though, you'll, you'll, and the reason I put it there was because
and this next one too, I put at number nine because this one, good song, but indeed.
But do I, especially being, being Dallas guys, you can't go to a cowboy game and not
hear this song.
And I'm not talking about what it did or alive because still a good song.
Yeah.
I'm talking about, welcome to the jungle.
Every team uses it to warm up with it's, I mean, even even in at the high school level
I've heard it over the PAs, I've heard it pretty much everywhere.
What's bad is it's a, in its tents of one of the greatest rock albums ever, appetite
for destruction.
I'll agree with that.
Great song was in a movie, a Deadpool, one of the dirty, hairy movies where Jim Carrey
is.
Jim Carrey.
Very, very unknown Jim Carrey.
I was going to ask if you knew that.
And great song, great album, great frontman.
I think it was the jungle supposed to be this crazy place and NFL stadiums and arenas.
I guess are crazy places and, hey, there's several stadiums got jails on them so they
must be.
But I'm on board with that.
I love the album, love the band, the song, way overplayed here on the radio in XM about
five to ten times as it is.
Don't need to hear it on Sunday.
Number eight.
And I'm going to be, I know I'm going to be burned at the stake for this and I don't care.
So done.
So done with the charge.
It's been used since 1833 when they played baseball with, what was it, Alabama said, playing
baseball with shirt rocks, you know, I just, I can't, saw me flat for back as well.
It just wears me out.
You know, I was actually, and I'm going to, this is funny.
That was cool when you had an organ lady.
To me, still though, I saw the original organ in the Yankee Stadium there when I toured
at the old Yankee Stadium.
Cool.
It's a great way past, past its time.
It'd be different if Robert E. Lee and you'll see us grant.
We're on the team.
Not anymore.
Done.
We need, we need, hey, people, local bands, my partner here is in a band, somebody created
a new stadium song.
See, I love that Pantera Dallas Stars theme.
Greatness.
All they did is they took guitar songs, told us from two different songs, put a Dallas
Stars chin, done.
And it was great.
I would, I'm, I'm lean more towards Cowboys from Hell with them.
Oh, hey, hey, let's go along with a little Pantera and you like.
Number seven.
And there's one reason and one reason only this is on this list.
And if I can get some music better underneath it so you can hear the song I'm talking about
if not go look it up, google it.
Serious by the Alisson Allen Parsons Project, you may not know it by name.
Very long song.
It's an entirety.
Yes.
But it was, it was really the song that kind of established the bit that Chicago doo, doo,
doo, doo, doo, do.
win out. Here come the scoreboard. Everybody's using this. And unless you're the Chicago
Bulls in the late 80s and early 90s, it doesn't count. I won't tell you what. And shot down
you heard that. You better get your ass. Yeah. That's true. We'll not debate that at all.
I will tell you that. But you know, and clear something up for me because it was a debate
I was having this weekend. The Mavericks currently using a half-row years are using that
eminence front by the who? That is correct. Aren't the Lakers using that too? No, the Boston
Celtics work. I know somebody. I don't know what LAs using some. Like, some big
and unique. And you know what they're speaking of which? That was one that should have been
on the list. Is that. Did you get ready for this? No, they don't do that much anymore
though. Number six. And this is this is a baseball thing. The beginning of car wash by
by Rose Rice, this thing, and that's it.
I'm waiting for the fear, and you never get it.
Yeah, I was just trying to, you know,
that's a, I don't know how many stadiums,
that's a big player out there at the temple there in Arlington.
Hate it.
Hate it, to me, I love the game, the game of baseball.
I'd actually sometimes rather listen to baseball in the radio
to hear the announcers, how they call stuff.
I think one thing about, it's gotten very generic.
Yeah, oh yeah.
Nobody's thinking outside the ball.
I think you always, the mindset is we got to have something
playing, fans, interest, fans, kids, kids, kids, fans, interest.
I think sometimes, if you just...
Although I will watch a dot race on you.
And when you're free, Ozzarca, ball of that, not it.
Participating minuers, the doors.
But they're doing it live now.
It's not on the boarding, where they had the jocks.
We'll actually, oh no, so great.
We went out there when the cubs were in town and out.
And part of the reason I want to go, is it Mill Walkie
or is it Chicago, does the song say it is Mill Walkie?
I want to see that.
I want to see that before I die.
Great stadium for a terrible team.
Your number five is, I would rather have a root canal
than sit to this.
And number five is, na na na, hey, hey, hey,
kiss him goodbye by steam.
The most, and it's not number one,
because this is not overused songs.
This is overrated songs.
That song, I mean, we see it on WWE programming,
forgot to say.
It's just, I mean, if you're steam, you love it,
because it was the only hit you have, and you're probably
making millions to this day off of royalties.
But, you know, it's only bit on a certain level.
For them, I mean, if they come out with anything,
I don't believe they did.
And I'll just do research on that, and on a certain level
to me, that's sportsmanship.
Yeah, I noticed that they do a lot of that.
Well, I know that at the, at some ballpark now,
they're playing the Johnny Cash ring of fire
when they pull the pitcher.
Yeah, let's have the break on that.
Johnny greatness, steam nod.
Number four, and I stand by this.
And it may need to be a little bit higher,
is we all rock you by queen.
I like queen.
I think they've done some great stuff.
They, I mean, I want it all great song.
Who wants to live forever?
Great song.
Bohemia Rhapsody?
Not so much.
Unless it's the Muppets, because that's genius.
Looked it up on YouTube.
But, we will rock you.
It's almost as bad as, and I just totally lost it,
because my phone vibrated, and it blew my,
my train of thought.
It just, it just,
dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun,
and nobody knows the words.
Nobody knows the words.
Everybody starts again, it's,
it's like, oh, God, come on, know the song.
Great, great band, low point.
This was towards the end of queen,
and towards the end of Freddie Mercury's life.
Another show.
Yeah.
Great band, great song.
I know it was really big over in British,
Britain first, with the British soccer.
First of all, was kind of their bit,
and it kind of migrated across the pond.
Don't like it, don't like what follows it.
Sometimes that song's played in a Tucson,
with we are the champions.
Yeah, okay, I've actually looked at,
and I've added a couple,
I've got a couple on here,
I wanna throw out you real fast.
And we can deal with that one a little bit here,
where we're doing, okay.
Number three, and this may be a local thing.
If you go to a Ranger game,
and I think I've heard this in other parks too,
during the seventh inning stretch,
because now you've got God bless America,
then you have to do, take me out to the ball game,
which I will never put that on any of us,
because that's the tradition of the game.
But to follow it with the Cotton Eye Freakin' Joe.
You know, first of all, isn't it by like a Swedish group?
Is it rednecks like?
No, that, you're a pin.
There's been several versions of that, you know.
But that's the one they use.
We're from the rednecks.
No, we're from Texas.
We gotta do our own thing.
I can't wait till college football season.
Here, a horrible song, old and new,
have attempted in a very certain state,
tried to do the Cotton Eye Joe,
and not to...
There's no video evidence.
No, no, no, no.
But old song, old country song.
Hey man, you wanna pack all,
you wanna get a bunch of overweight women and tight rockies.
Throw out the Cotton Eye Joe at Cowboys Red River,
because that will pack a dance line.
That was not me for the record, just one of that.
Number two, and I put this as one of the most
overrated songs all of all time period.
Hey, it's Good Gimmick, different costumes.
In Wayne's World Two, yeah.
Remember, because they got stuck in the bar,
they all just happen to be dressed
at different outfits?
Yes.
YMCA, can we please, first of all,
can we all get on the same page?
Are we gonna do the M as we touch our fingers
to the top of our head,
or are we gonna do the M as we bend over like we're bowing
and, and room, because I've seen that too,
where the M becomes this, where you bend over
and you put your arms out,
which I think is very strange.
I won't do it at all.
I just, to me, I just cut the YMCA to me as the wave.
Yeah.
But see, at least the wave,
we'll see the problem with the wave though.
YMCA ends at some point.
Yeah.
I've watched waves go for it.
I'm a wave killer.
I watched waves go for entire eating.
I'm a wave killer.
I will just sit there and do my thing.
Well, that may be another,
that may be another, another list for another day
is most overrated crowd participation.
Yeah, exactly.
Number one on this list,
and there's one reason, and there's one reason only.
And I'm very passionate about this.
It's rock and roll part one by Gary Glitter,
and I'm gonna tell you why.
I honestly am of the opinion
that every arena and every stadium
should never play the song again.
Ever.
Ever.
Because this guy was Gary Glitter was convicted
of child pornography.
And the fact that we allowed this song
to be played in Paul Parks and played in arenas,
it just, especially in hockey.
I mean, every goal you ever hear scored in hockey,
that song plays.
And it's actually, you can even, I don't know now,
but I know that some of the early NHL games by EA
featured this game after a goal score,
which I haven't played that in a long time,
so I may not know that to be true anymore,
but I know at one time it was prevalent on their games.
I just, it is number one on the list.
It will never be anything but number one on this list.
And if you are listening and you have anything to do
with a sound in an arena or a stadium,
please kill this thing.
And I'm gonna tell you,
because I'm gonna get emails from people saying,
well, what about people that play like thrill
or at the games?
And this is a, and that's a discussion
for another podcast too.
Dude was never convicted.
True.
Never proven.
And one of the things about that,
and I'm just gonna tease this,
there's a book out there that a guy wrote
about the life of Michael Jackson,
that he specifically set out to prosecute him,
to prove his guilt by the end of the book.
He says, he actually says the words,
I'm actually gone the other way with it.
There's no way this could have actually happened.
And so Gary Glitter convicted Michael Jackson,
not convicted.
And that's the difference to me.
Yeah.
Mike, Strangelife.
And that could be an entire podcast in itself.
Yeah, Strangelife, you know what?
That, man, that, God, that song.
Yeah, I didn't even know the name of it for a lot of years
and seeing it on print just makes me go,
then he was a spare.
Remember the, he was just,
he wanted to be Elton John, so bad he could taste it.
He was real Britishy.
Yeah, real Britishy.
I think one that was left off here was I of the Tiger.
I, you know, I thought about that actually.
With I of the Tiger, it's kind of faded.
If you're Auburn, if you're,
if you're the Cincinnati Bengals, I'll roll with you.
If you're Detroit, but,
the cat, well, but still, Detroit Tigers.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah, okay, okay, excuse me.
I just, I don't know.
I almost put down there, but I was like,
you know what?
I haven't heard it in a, in a game in a while.
And I can't ever discount survivor
of the Italian hair band because of one thing.
Real American genius.
Real men, genius.
You can't, that do.
Wait a bit.
That are most interesting man in the world.
Real men, genius.
Because the thing about most interesting man in the world,
give me something new.
Went to a psychic, just a Warner.
I've got an entire CD in my iPod
of just real men of genius.
It's, and they did two volumes of this thing.
Nothing better than Mr. Texas high school football champion.
Because of the way it ends when he goes.
Because you will never forget that game
you threw two, three touchdowns.
Mainly because you won't let us.
That is genius.
That sums up a lot of people in this town.
But hey, I was such a great son.
My mom has a tattoo of son on her own.
I'll say, I'm not going to discount
the most interesting man in the world.
Because some of that's, what was it?
He goes, he wants, punched a clown in the face.
Yeah, you heard me.
Yeah, you heard me.
It was something about a dentist at one point.
Yeah, great bit.
I think that's what keeps us drinking beer.
I think it's funny.
I think that's, that's it's holy.
It does say keys.
It does say keys greatness.
If you haven't had it, it doesn't make you interesting.
It makes you crazy.
It makes me think of a Chris Farley bit,
which is Spanish for the two equis.
And also we are the champions.
I'm one that, I noticed everybody,
I don't care who it was played at Lola
in our month of going L.A.
And of course Yankee Stadium and the Super Bowl
and this, that and the other.
And heck, you may hear if your local P.W. team wins
a turkey bowl, as we are the champions.
Once again, it's usually connected to that.
We will rock you song.
It's a great band towards the end, way overplayed.
Yeah.
And I mean, they're one of those, Queen is one of those bands
to me that, that's not even the best stuff
on those albums.
No, no.
You know, there's so many bands and that's going to be one
that I'll probably have to take the lead on one week
is bands that have great songs that you may have never
even heard.
You know, there's, I mean, I could name,
I could rattle off four or five albums right now
that I can put on beginning to end and go,
not a bad song on the whole album.
Yeah, oh yeah.
Joshua Tree.
I mean, it's right off top of my head now.
Greatest rock band of my generation
and one of the greatest albums I've ever recorded.
I'll do it too.
Shout out to devil.
Woo.
I mean, you put it in a mouth.
You want to watch the definition of behind the music
if you've never seen Motley Cruz.
Now watch him now because they're remastering
they're adding the new stuff.
But that band is the definition of behind the music.
But shout out to devil, great album, let it roll.
I'll tell you this real quick.
I know we're getting short on time here.
Nellie's number one.
Ah, am number one.
But you know what?
There's actually another song that he does
that I'm surprised people aren't using.
It's on his sweat album.
It's called Heart of a Champion.
And he does it with some choir.
And it's to the tune of NBA on NBC.
He's like, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da.
And I have the heart of a cheque.
I can feel my ring coming.
And it's a great song.
And nobody uses it.
Yeah, send that to Miami.
Oh, on that note, that's going to do it for us this week.
We're going to try to do this every week.
It's not going to be it will be right off the bat.
But once we get the wheels on this thing
and get the machine moving, you will
have a new episode of the clubhouse every week.
We'll be publishing it on our Facebook pages.
It'll be in iTunes as well.
So until next time, the clubhouse is officially closed.
Hey, and if you see us, beers.