The 2017 Dallas International Film Festival Wrap-Up Show

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You may know him as fun, don't go, but his mom and even don't forward, I'm going to come
down for welcome sir, I did put my running shoes on, you did brother, so if you might
have figured out by now, this is our official wrap-up show for the 2017 Dallas International
Film Festival.
This show I hate doing because the dip is over, it is kind of a bittersweet thing, I love
the dip, everybody, I love the dip, getting to see everybody, because I mean a lot of people
that we see at the dip from a press standpoint, we see them year around at different
screenings, but there are certain people that we look forward to seeing at the dip because
most of the people we deal with the dip are very busy people, so we hear from them on emails
or social media, we don't get a lot of time to hang out with them, yes, and we don't
really get a lot of time to hang out with them at the dip, but we do get to see them and spend
some time and hear all the cool things that they've got going on, and we do this every
year after the film festival is over, this is our fourth year covering the festival,
which I can't believe, before we start this whole thing, yes, we got to think everybody
in their dog on this thing, we're going to get to that, we're definitely going to get
to that, the quick thing is we want to think everybody at the dip for, you know, this
is our fourth year, and if you listen to that, they keep asking us back, yeah, you know,
so I put somewhere they might figure it out, I don't know, but you know, we're going
to keep doing it, the greatest people there narrows, like oh yeah, we love to have
me back, you know, and we've got to be a mare, and we're so happy that they're pleased
with the work that we do. Big time, you know, I mean, this this film festival had some good
stuff, it was it was amazing, but just this was the film definitely, this film festival
in general, it's something we look forward to every year, it's the two biggest shows we
do every year, when we're there, both nights, Friday nights at the festival lounge, this
year's festival lounge probably one of the larger areas that we've gotten to deal with
for the first time ever, we got to do the show outside, I think we're going to have to start
thinking about doing that on a two beautiful nights, good Lord, those nights were gorgeous,
we've got to have, we have to thank some new friends of the show at Stella Artoa, oh yeah,
who are the one of the major sponsors of the Dallas International Film Festival, but we got
them to come sit down with us and talk about by a lady of drink and make sure you're
are going to the Stella Artoa website for some of those and you can get those chalices on Amazon
as well. If we listed everybody we had on the show today during this show, it would be a
tone show. Yes, because I mean, we had directors, we had producers, we had actors, actors,
we had composers, film critics, we had everything, it this was so much fun and every year we
wrap up the day, and we're like, I don't know if next year can measure up to this and then next year
exceeds the year before, two of the biggest guests we've ever had on the show, Glenn Moore
shower, Leah Thompson, and I know last week's episode was really, really long, it's probably the
second longest episode we've ever done, but it every piece of that shows worth it, and I talked
to Marcus Blake from that nerd show last night and I thanked him for helping us with that
marathon of an episode. You know, listening back to that show, he really helped us as we were waiting
for everybody to get there from DFS honors and he really kept it moving. You know, Chad and I can
carry a show. I mean, we do it all the time, but to have somebody there that can help us carry that
load a little bit and keep the thing moving, it just made that show that much better. I got to see
13 films this year. Did you? I saw I could share too, which is the most I've ever seen at the
festival, I actually got to be there at the closing of the festival, which I've never gotten to do before,
and as Sarah Harris, friend of the show, said there's a bit of sweet to it because we're having so
much fun, it's such a great show, but it's got to come to it into some point. I know, but the
thing about that is, too, is that, you know, these people behind the scenes, they really work at the
practically, oh, brother, you, a lion. Sarah Harris, Lee, Papyrt, James Vowse, John Wildman,
Jessica Moon, Alex, yeah, who is all of these people are amazing human beings. And
people come and I'm like, wow, this just looks so easy. No, it's not. These people are some of
the hardest working people in show business. And you know how you tell that they do, it's such a
incredible job. Because it looks so easy. Yeah. But the films, I mean, they spend all years getting
a films and they have to plan everything in there. There's some great events. I mean, I mean,
it starts off Bonnie and Clyde. You were there. Yes, I was there. And seeing the great
failure. I mean, they done away. Everybody said had nothing but wonderful things to say about her.
Um, you said you had a blast. We talked about that on our first show that first Friday night
from from the, from the, from the, the festival. And I was working stuff for the next night.
You were, you were, brother, you were definitely working. Let's just talk about some of the films
we saw the festival. I'm just going to go in order that I saw them. I've got about listed here.
All right. I started with 44 pages, which was the story of the making of the 70th anniversary
issue of highlights for children's magazine. I liked it. I didn't love it. I wanted more of a
documentary narrative about the history of the magazine, which they gave some. Yeah. But it was more
about the producing of that particular issue. But it was good. It just wasn't great for me.
Okay. What was your, but the, well, body and Clyde sits by itself. So yeah, we'll leave that one
be. What was your first official film of the festival? I think it was after that one was doing,
what did we see that Saturday right after? I don't have an order that I started in
morning. That's what I saw 44 pages. Right after that one now. I saw Delta right after. Yeah,
we saw that one together. Delta the documentary about the Richard Turner. Yes. This is named
from San Antonio, who is one of the greatest upfront and up close card magicians in the world.
Yes. And he's blind. Yes. Card mechanic. Yes. He's a card mechanic. Yes. He was there with his wife
and the director of the documentary, which that's one of the things I love about Delta's
National Film Festival, too, is the number of filmmakers that come up and come for the festival
and meet meet and greet the fans and do the Q&As. I'm such a fan of that because
you're getting that personalized one-on-one time with the filmmakers. You got to ask a
question during the Q&As. Yes. Really dug this film. And it think was how he literally practices
16 hours. Yeah. Well, he was there with the deck in his hand at the time. One of my favorite
stories is when they were talking with somebody who was telling the story about how he had a deck
in each hand and he fell asleep and he saw the deck in his hand and he woke up and he started
that again. It's a great story and it really, like it's a very emotional story, too. Yeah, he
really has changes perspective on everything over time. And you see that in the documentary too,
which I think it's kind of me. It shows, yeah, I mean, how he hated even saying the thing
why, but now he kind of brings it into the show. And I believe that got distribution. Did it get
a little bit here? After that two Sundays ago now, I guess. I did see a score a film music documentary.
This was another one that I kind of have to put a disclaimer on because it is well documented on
the show that I am someone who was knee deep in the hoop, when it comes to music. And I am a musician.
So I have always been interested in film scores and when I was a kid, we played certain
film scores, stuff like John Williams and people of his ilk. So I don't know that I learned
a ton from that film, but it's a really good look at the history of film scores for people
that are interested. I think from a, from a layman's perspective, it's a really, really good
film to watch by a first time filmmaker. And he was there and answered some great questions as well.
And again, not a great film from a guy like me, but I think if I wasn't as well first in film
scores, I probably would have liked it more. Next one, I saw was, what my upstream?
Oh, the one about the water. Yes, and it wasn't, yeah, they brought in Flint because that was
more about the torture. But that was, but that was also more of a, it was a main stream story, no
No, no, it's more dealing with the water. That's like Flint is. Yes, but no, but this dealt with more
than just Flint. No, it was more of the story of what's going on with the water in West Virginia.
Okay, because all the coal issues and pollution into the rivers. And so, and it shows how one
person was one of these outspoken doctors for the people. And then obviously he gets a job at the
government and how it just kind of you kind of changes all the political stuff. Even shows
these, you would say the lobby groups for the big coal industry and stuff like that.
There in a, in a, they don't know, but this guy comes in, the director comes in with a,
with a camera and starts filming these people, these lobbyists trying to say, hey, this
building West Virginia, this is how we're going to get past what we can't live with. So it actually
made it know it. Wow. So it had, yeah. So it started up with the little thing with Flint, but then
we're more, I go back to this is more about West Virginia than he adds in the Flint thing, but
it really makes you think about the water and the standards and all that stuff. And how even these
agencies like the Center for Disease Controls say, yeah, we think this level, say for this, you know,
chemical to be in the water at an exome, pronounced per million, or whatever, but they never even show them
testing, you know, these, these things are where they get them from or where they got these levels.
There's no scientific basic behind it, even with the CDC. So it was, it was an eye opening one.
My next film was Quest, which won the documentary feature grand jury prize. This film took 10 years
to make. And it's about the lives of a family that live in North Philly. He is a record producer and
local radio personality. And she, she works the night shift at a women's shelter. And it starts out
the week before Obama's first election. Okay. And it works all the way up until last year.
Originally, it was planned to be a documentary, not only about their lives, but about him and the
people, his music. And his music does play a very large role in this. But it turns into something else.
And I don't want to split the spoiler out here because it's about halfway through, it takes a weird turn.
And when it takes that weird turn, I literally had to catch my breath. And it affects the entire
rest of the film. And we can talk about it all fair. But when this film ended, and I said this in my
written review, conveniently located at www.theclubhouse.cast.com, which is our website.
When the credits rolled on this, I felt like I should have felt at the end of boyhood.
Okay. That's how good this is. This is, I will say right now, as of April 14th, whatever
today is, I did the math this morning. Six of my top 10 films of the year right now,
we're seeing the Dallas International Film Festival at the moment. Yeah, at the moment. Yeah.
So, this one is going to be tough to pump out of that top 10. Yeah. Okay. What was your next one?
Delores about the lady who did you get to see Delores? Yeah. Yeah. About the lady who is Mary
to Sheber sees her shop as and all that. And she was really instrumental to the great immigrants
coming in working on these great farms and getting the rights for them and going national and
dealing with it. It was a real political thing talking about the unions. And it was a real document
documentary on the thing, but it really showed that she had such an impact, but she doesn't really
get much of a credit for what happened. A lot of it, which was sharp as was because of her,
but it's been all the credit. So, good documentary and historically about her life and what she
done that a lot of people did not know about. By the way, Delto actually did win the audience award
for documentary, free choreographed, I've mentioned that. My next film was Davian. This is,
it's a very short film. It's about 73 minutes. It doesn't even make an hour and a half.
This takes place in rural Arkansas. And it's about a young man who is dealing with the death
of his brother, who is in a gang and he kind of gets sucked into that gang life too. And he also
lives with his sister and her boyfriend. And he is, the boyfriend is trying to be a positive role model
for Davian. And Davian's kind of struggling back and forth. This was sponsored by the
Denton Black Film Festival, who friends of the show, the movie brothers are very deeply engaged with.
And we had one of their directors on the show and our second show at the Downstone National Film Festival.
I liked this film more than a lot of people did. A lot of people thought it was a, it is,
it is an art seeer version of moonlight without the subtext. All right. So, there's a lot of
symbolism in it. It's a kind of film you really have to pay attention to. There's a good heart to it.
This, the director of it is one of the, is one of the nine directors to watch,
wrote, wrote, wrote, uh, voted by one of the magazines up in New York.
It's a good film. It's a film that I don't think is palatable to a mass audience. And it's current
state. Maybe, if he, if he, if he gets a bigger budget, he gets to reshoot some things. I think
there it can be a very powerful film. But it's very raw and it's very honest. And I enjoyed it,
not my favorite film of the festival because we're not there yet. But it's a good film.
And, and, and I, I think you should have been received better personally.
All right. My next film I'm going to hold off on. Yeah. Hold off the lead. Yeah. I know where you're going.
But the one after that, I could probably, uh, not be in order to the T, uh, was, which, when we saw
together, Abacus. Abacus, yes. That was Saturday, the second Saturday morning. Abacus,
small enough to jail. Do you want to hold on to like get there? No, there's only, there's one
between the two. Okay. Let me do the one now. There will be, Abacus, and we'll get through the
one. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Who's, uh, who streets? Oh, who streets? That is correct.
Because you saw that and I went in different. Yeah. That one, um, I saw what they're trying to do.
But I don't think they did it right. It's, it's about, basically, about, uh, racial tensions and
different places. There was a lot of Michael Brown, Michael Brown, and the new St. Louis. I saw what
they're trying to do, but I don't think they did it. You know, they, they got there. No. Okay.
And there was a, there was a short film showed right before it. Correct. Yeah. And it was a guy
who was filming in Dallas, not knowing, right when the shooting is hitting downtown. I was driving
back from my vacation when that happened. Yeah. It's all set. He's there when it happens. And you know,
he was there from the time of the shootings to when a President Obama made a speech is about 10 minutes.
How was that? That was good. That was good. Yeah. Uh, my next one, which also had a short
before it was cassette a documentary mix tape. This one disappointed me. Uh, before there was a
thing, there's a short film about what music is and it was, I, and let's also say that when I saw
this, this is a late night showing and the short film that was before it had a lot of different
imagery, moving a lot around. And it kind of gave me a little bit of a headache. Yeah.
Well, that could have been because it was 10 30 and 92 or 10 o'clock a night. The cassette documentary
disappointed me a little bit because when you call something a documentary mix tape,
I'm looking for that era of when we would put our records to tape so we could carry them around
with me or you made a mix tape for somebody, whether it was a friend or someone you wanted to be
more than a friend or whoever it was, this for me kind of turned into a 90 minute episode of
how it's made. Which, I mean, it's still interesting because they met the guy that invented the
cassette overseas and spent some time with him and they saw the factory and there were some
of the other guys that helped him with it. This would have been rated lower for me if Henry
Rollins was not in it because I'm a big fan of Henry Rollins and he has like an entire walk
and closet full of cassette tapes. And they talk about some indie bands that are distributing
their albums on cassette and cassette singles and different stores that are featuring cassettes.
It was, it's not a bad film, but it was probably my least favorite film with the ones I saw.
All right, the last one before we get to the final two trophy about the, I did not, that one was
very uncomfortable for me. Yeah, you were my song. Yeah, and I'm not, it's,
if you're an animal lover, that's how I was going to say. Yeah, I just see what I saw. I mean,
I'm sure it's well done. Well, I just didn't get to it. Just a couple that I saw that you didn't
before we get to the ones that we both saw together. Mr. Roosevelt, which won the Texas competition
grand jury prize for Noel Wells. This was the story of a girl who's trying, who's
graduated college. She lives in LA. She's trying to make her make a career as a comedic actress,
like kind of a Saturday night live kind of a thing. She finds out of the death of a loved one and
has to go back to Austin and winds up having to stay in the house with her ex-boyfriend that they
used to share as well as his new girlfriend. Well, that's good. What I dug about this and it was,
I mean, this was a concerto Texas film because most of it was filmed in Austin.
What I really liked about this is the shooting style of it reminded me a lot of chasing Amy,
or really, which is reinforced at a point where she's going through a box of her things and
there is a Clarks hockey sweater amongst everything. And I say, am I written review? If you guys still
have it and you don't want it, please let me know. I will give it a good home. But this is a film that
I really enjoyed. I was glad to see it win an award. It's one that I don't, this is one that's
probably going to get a second life on home formats of some form because it really is kind of an
indie film and people that live in Texas or I spent time in Austin will have a better appreciation
of this film that a lot of people will. It did have one of my favorite lines in it from the festival
where they're eating tacos from a taco truck and she's saying how much she misses tacos and
the ex-boyfriend says, don't you have this in LA? She goes, no, people in LA are more worried
about burritos and burrito is just a sleeping bag for rice. So I used that. Also, I did see the
lost city of Z, which is currently playing in theaters. Oh boy, long, long and boring. All the
action you see in the trailer, that's all of the action in the film. So if you want to go see it,
it's two and a half hours, be prepared for that. Okay, be prepared for two and a half hours.
I also, let's see, what else did I see the two and I saw bandade? Oh, really. Bandade is
about a couple. Zoe Lister Jones wrote directed produced. I think she catered it to. I mean,
she does everything. She and Adam Pauli, I believe, is his name from the Mindy Project. They play
a couple who decide the best way to solve their problems is to take their arguments right songs
about them and become a band. And their drummer is played by SNL veteran Fred Armisen, who's
also their wacky neighbor, who has his own storyline that I'm not going to go into and you just need
to see it. Okay. I love this film. This was a noon on a Sunday. The last day of the festival,
at noon, showing and it kept my attention the whole time. It's also got a comedy great Susie
estimate in it, who I'm a huge fan of from back in the day. She plays his mother. There's
it's funny, but there's some very serious overtones that they deal with as a young married couple
that I found very, very well done, very well shot, really enjoyed that film as well. After that,
I saw step, which is going to be distributed. We found out yesterday, we got an email that said,
fuck, search life's going to be distributing this in August. So we saw this way ahead of schedule.
This is a documentary takes place in Baltimore at the Baltimore Leadership School for Women.
This is a school that has a lottery system. Every year, they take 120 girls from
inner city and they start in sixth grade and go all the way through 12th. This is the story of
their first graduating class. And when they came in in the sixth grade, they formed what's called
a step team. If you've ever been to a college and seen black fraternities, black sororities,
they have these step teams. It's like a dance true, but it's there's a lot more to it.
Well, this first graduating class is getting into their senior year and they're also trying to
get into this big competition that they've never been able to even place much less when.
This movie destroyed me, really. I Kevin, who's part of the movie brothers and friend of the show,
I texted him immediately after and said, I don't care what you do put this at the top of your
list. Take your kids. Because he was in a black fraternity in college. He is a member of a, he's a
line member, which was in the step team. And he has kids in high school. You have to see this film.
When this film drops in August, I will be a huge proponent of it. I will tell everybody on their
brother. This film was absolutely amazing. Just, I mean, you laughed, you cried. And the delts
International Film Festival that kind of a cool deal were the step team from Garland High School
was there. And they did a routine right before the film. And they did a great job. I believe
it was, uh, theta Sigma new was, and when they did a new Sigma, I'm sorry, I had to think about it
in my head. They did a great job that it did two different routines there.
I'm going to save the closing film for the closing. Because there's one we got to talk about.
I'll be ready. We'll talk about advocacy first, advocacy small enough to jail. This was a
documentary done by PBS as was a quest. So you'll probably see both of those, uh, at least an
independent lens of anything else. All right. This was the only bank that was indicted after the mortgage
crisis. Yes. It's a family bank called Abacus, cater to the people the Asian community in New York.
I loved this film. So did I? I absolutely loved this film. There were moments, and you were
sitting right next to me. Yeah. We're both of us. We're either just shaking our heads or going
or you kidding me. There's definitely different points of view. I liked, normally I'm not a fan of
this kind of thing. But I did like how they actually interviewed two of the jurors that were on that
and I liked that. I liked that part. I normally am not a fan of that kind of thing.
But I think it really gives an interesting perspective because that tried. Didn't they say the
child took like seven months or something crazy like that? 56 days or something like that. Plus we have
the plus the jury deliberation. Yeah. Yeah. Which was about over a week or something like that. Yeah.
And again, if you don't know the story or not going to spoil it for you, but this film was very,
very impressive. It's detailed. It goes through the whole thing. There's, there's talked with
disgruntled or disgraced former employees lawyers on both sides. Yeah. I was, I was very impressed
at the DA. Yeah. That the DA was actually out. And one of the daughters of the family worked for
that DA's office and quit. Yeah. Because of this case. And it was interesting to see how the
family's journey was going because it is a family business. The father founded it. He's got three
daughters. All of them are involved. Mom's just trying to help keep everybody together in your love
mom. Mom's great. Mom. Well, you talk about unfiltered. Yeah. She was amazing.
Big fan of this film. This is another one I will highly recommend when it gets a chance to
air, whether it's on PBS or if you have to stream it on Netflix. I hope it gets the theatrical run.
Yeah. I really, really do. Actually, no, we'll go to the one that closed the festival and then we'll
close strong. How about that? Let's go. The closing film of the festival I saw patty cakes also picked up
by pots, a fox search light cost a million dollars to make fox search light pay 10 and a half
million for it's Sundance. Really. It will release in July. July the 7th I believe is what the email
said. This is as the great James Fowse said. This is a white Jersey girl eight mile. Okay.
And but it has a sense of humor, which I really, I dug this film. I dug this film the most.
The actress that plays the killer pee or patty cakes. She's Australian had never wrapped it
her entire life. So I had to learn the Jersey accent and learn how to do whole pop. Okay.
And incredibly convincing. There's some great, the great Kathy Moriardies in this film.
Oh, really? Yes. MC Light makes an appearance as a local radio DJ. This is a, it's a fun film
and it's a funny film. The guy that plays Graham Master Flash on the get down is also when it.
My phone keeps falling down. I'm trying to get my emails. Because I'm trying to reference
my emails of all the award winners. Definitely this will be a must see when it releases in July.
Because at it's right there in that pocket where all the big blow up movies are going to be there.
This is a great palette cleanser. And given what I saw before it that we're about to talk about here
in a minute, it was a perfect balance to end the festival for me. And before we get there, we're going
to do one more thing. I want to go over all of the winners that we didn't get to talk about
because we didn't get to see their films. The narrative feature from the grand jury was for the
relation trip, which I heard great things about. The narrative feature special jury prize for
directing goes to heart stone and I've, I talked to a couple of people that saw this and it's
pretty heavy. Quest that we talked about there, Speta Colo, which was what I was interested in
it's about a village that kind of, every year they have like an acting festival to remind
themselves of their history. I didn't get to see if I'm interested. It won for artistry,
the special jury prize documentary. We talked about Mr. Roosevelt, the Texas competition special
jury prize for directing when to Mustang Island, director Craig Elrod. And the studio movie girl
silver hardware presented by the Schultz family went to City of Ghosts. I heard some great things
about that. The short film grand jury prize went to what happened to her. The special jury prize
for short film went to Hyrat. The special jury prize for performance went to Aaron McClain for spring
and the animated short film grand jury prize went to Mr. Madila, which I believe one of our
friends in the press actually saw as one of her favorites. If I'm not mistaken that was based on
an actual phone conversation that a guy animated. Your documentary feature for the audience of
where the winner went to doubt the short film went to no other way to say it. And then there's
the narrative feature audience award winner. This was a film. Number one, it showed three times
in the festival sold out all three times every seat. Every seat. What a house. I saw the
seconds. You saw the second screening. I saw the third. Now the second screening may actually
brought chairs in. They couldn't on this one. They brought a couple chairs in to the theater.
If they had brought chairs into this theater, there would have been fire code violations when I
went. That's how full it was. I mean, it was packed. And the filmmakers were there for all three
showings. Actors were there for all three showings, including the great Glenn Moore shower who we
had on the show. We are talking about bomb city. This is the only film in the entire festival that
you and I both have written reviews up right now for. I'm saying it right now and I said it in my
written review, which is located at www.theclubhousepodcast.com. Which is an old website.
I am championing this film. I am I am going to be the person that shouts the greatness of this film
for mountain tops. Because if this film does not get distributed to a wide audience, there is
something wrong. This takes place in Amarillo. Late 90s, this is based on a true story of
Brian Dmitriy. Brian Dmitriy and let me drive on this because they're going somewhere.
All you need to know is it's about justice, violence, and murder, and it happens to coincide
with the punk rock scene in Amarillo. That's all we're going to say about this film.
Because if we go any deeper, it's going to pull impact away from this film. It's only about 90 minutes.
It's not a long film. Most of it was filmed here in Dallas, which the climax of the film,
you know this area, is blocked for folks from your house. But it still didn't take away for it.
Nothing was just kind of weird when they were filming that in one morning. I actually drove
by and thought, what the heck is this? It's really, yeah. It's like, it's like, wow, you know,
and I'll leave it at that. The one thing I do want to bring in only, and this is not spoiler,
the kind of the punks versus the athletes. It's a universal theme. Yes. It's a universal theme.
It really hits home on that because there's always those things in high school up,
which go to my right in VWWW. That's called usplacas.com. Which is our website. Start a paragraph.
Talks about the, you know, there's always been that the, the jocks versus the stone,
or the punks, you know, whatever. There's so many names or terms you can use to describe it.
Everybody knows the athletes versus the outcasts. And that really hits home in this film.
There's only a couple of names that you would probably know in this film. We talked about Glenn
Moore's shower in the film. Maybe we'll lie a link later. Who is the daughter of Richard Linkletter.
She was the daughter in boyhood. Robbie Lawler from the UFC plays one of the cops in this
and Major Dodge. She's been in a couple things. Major Dodge was also the producer and the casting
director. And I think he catered to like, this was a very small group of people that got together
to make this film. And you can see their passion in it. And they were nice enough to do the show
more than once, more than once. And I'm going to be honest with you. Let me tell you
how quality human beings these people are. The composer Cody. Yeah. He came and found me as I was
standing in line waiting to see the film. Yeah. And he's like, oh, yeah, we sat down with you guys.
We talked for like 10 minutes. Yeah. The score on this is amazing. They've talked on our show about
trying to get a deal together to release the score. They're going to work on perhaps a Spotify playlist
of some of the songs in the film. The score really when a climatic moment really is about to hit
that score builds the emotion inside of you. You start off in the production by using credible.
It really is. It's very well shot. But when it starts off, the first movie just starts off.
It's at night. It shows a courthouse of the flags. It shows in that build of the music. Even in the
first five minutes to get a little here's what's going to be happening. Well, and what I really
dug about that is the way the story is told. It's told in pieces. So you don't get everything
all at one time. So you're paying attention where it's it's telling in parallel between the
courtroom and the story they're telling. And it's going back and forth. So it all culminates
together at the end. And then they tell you the aftermath of what happened with actual footage.
It looks like they must have done something on like a 2020 because there's a lot of ABC footage.
Yeah. I was talking to the director in this was after I saw it in this and that's in the
media lounge because I saw it and started as to James and Brooks. Yeah, James and Brooks. Yeah,
and I talked to him a couple times, but I gave him my full thing. In this story,
he went on the show the second time. And you know, I said, I'm going to see it tomorrow.
Then on the second show, I just spilled my guts a little bit about it. But I was talking
him about it. And I gave him what I thought maybe the only thing I thought was absolutely this or that.
But he really told me the story. And in there there is, you know, perceptions everything.
And it really shows with more child's character. Don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't.
That's no good. That's no good. It's further. That's all I'm going to say. But and I'm not
given anything out. But I think for this film, to really get the point in what he's trying to get
across, do not read anything up on totally agree with you. Do not because it makes the film even
better because going in, I've watched the thing and then I'll look back and go, this film,
it makes you want to see it again. So you can piece together what you did see. What's
about even that is with more child's character is if you don't know the story. Yeah, but don't,
just don't, just don't, just don't, don't, you're already going to deep. Yeah. But don't,
don't read up before you. No, don't, just go into this cold. Go cold, go cold. Because there's
there's other pieces to this film to that. I mean, I told the filmmakers, I can't think of the
last time that, because when I watch a film, I tend to sit back a little bit and kind of take
it all in. Unknowingly to myself, I was actually leaning forward concentrating on this film
most of the time. I didn't even know it. That's how much this film captured me. Yeah. And it just
pulled me in. I just, this film, you know, when I got to watching it, I go, this would be
incredible if I didn't know the story. But he was, the director was so kind, so nice. And
here's the thing. I mean, everybody involved in this film was amazing. But here's the incredible
part. I was, you know, talking to him after the fact and all this stuff. And for some reason,
somehow we got into Gary's story and how the guy's never been caught, he goes, we're going to
talk, because if you want me to get the word out, we might do something. Very nice. And let's talk
about you, too, because during the festival, you were able, and this is on our Facebook page,
it's on all of our social media, you were able to, you know, I'm going to let you tell the story,
because it's your story, dude. All right, first off, everybody knows this, I want to first off
think the dip for given Gary the spot on the red carpet. That was amazing. Thank you, Lee Pappard. I
actually talked to him personally about that and thanked him, because that was, that was very
touching that they left him a spot on the red carpet. Gary Murray, if you're not aware,
friend of the show, if it wasn't for him, I don't think we'd have anything.
Well, exactly. And he was, he was killed tragically last year at the Dallas International Film Festival
by a hidden run driver, which is part of the reason that the city is building that pedestrian bridge
now and we're very, we're part of the, the contingent that's pushing to have that, at least
that section of the bridge named after Gary. One of the most giving people that you'll ever meet.
He had, he was cookie, but he was our cookie. Yeah, you know, but the nicest guy, if you, absolutely.
Yeah, but the thing was that I'm a big fan of the show Eatmaster. You are. Yeah, and I've watched
every season, watch them as a go live. And all of our peck is one of the judges, one of the best
tattoo artists in who's from here in Dallas. Yeah, he owns Elm Street tattoo in Deepelham.
And what happened was, months and months and months ago, I said, hey, you know, I want to, how, how
would get all over the tattoo me? And they said, here's the email, Yadiyati. And I sent it out
in his, you know, assistant, whatever, said, basically, I told him the story and they said, yeah,
we'll do it because, you know, it's to honor Gary. And all that and all of her said, I'll personally do
the tattoo. That's on the waiting list since November. And what's really, really weird,
ironic about it is I put it every, I email the guy about two months ago and said, hey, where
am I, I'm going to list my, oh, no, you're still honest, just, but then Sunday, during the
death, I get that email saying he has time open Tuesday. The first Sunday of the fest. Yeah,
not the two, which is during the death, right smack dab in the middle of the death. Yeah. So,
during, you know, Tuesday night, I got the tattoo in Honor Gary and WFAA channel eight was there
to film it. They did a beautiful two-minute piece that's available also on our Facebook page,
and on their website, too. And we all think Aaron for getting her boyfriend in Michael from
the channel, who works at Channel Lake near Dorisi for another show. But, um, so they did the tattoo.
It still inches a little bit, but it's still heeled, but it's a beautiful job. I mean, it's all
of her just tattoo. Personally, and he, all of her was so cool that my cup and talking when he
is doing it, and, you know, just, then, along to film the piece, I want to thank, you know,
Elm Street tattoo, absolutely. But, I mean, it's so weird that happened during the death
is when the tattoo happened all the time. And it also became a discussion piece for you
with Jamison Brooks. Yeah. And, which led to us, I said, hey, they never caught the guy and
going out like, well, just like this film bomb city, I want to get the word out. And Jamison,
it's just like, you know, let's talk, really talk. And, again, I am championing this film.
Yeah. I mean, it did every bomb city. I mean, before the show even started the first night,
people were talking Hunter Carson, friend of the show, who were big fans of, he's like, dude,
I'm going to see bomb city right now. And as soon as it's over, I am leaving the theater,
so I come right down and talk to you guys about it. And he did. Yeah. He came down and could not
have, everybody we talked to was like, bomb city, bomb city, bomb city. And then the film makers
came down and they could not have been higher quality of human beings if they tried. They were
very gracious. You know, they were trying to shake hands and kiss babies, but they were like,
you know what, we're going to come sit down with these guys. And not only that, they recognize
this later down the road and talk to us, even not even on the air. Yeah. And then,
which already had my bar set way up here because you saw it before I did. You were texting me like,
dude, yeah. This is going to blow you away. Yeah. So my bar was in the stratosphere. And then I saw
the film and I told the filmmakers, I'm like, my bar was way up here and you guys shattered it.
This movie, honestly, again, full price theaters without a doubt. I mean, yeah, if this movie
anyway you can and we are, we are on a two man, if not three, when we get Chad involved,
crusade to make sure the word gets out about not only all all the films here, but bomb city
especially because this movie is absolutely amazing. The whole price theater thought that. So like
if you're a member of the empire and you live in Nashville, Tennessee, it's coming to you next. Go.
And I'll say this without a doubt, this will make my top 10. Right now, it's my favorite film
with you. Yeah. Yeah. Right now. Yeah. It is number one on my list. It's that good. It's that powerful.
It's that well done. Yeah. I just, my heart's racing just talking about it. And I saw it
almost a week ago. And I would like to see like Gwyn talked about the two hour version. Oh,
yeah, because he's his, because you'll cut his song was like two or seven or something. Yeah.
And let's just get into the shows. Glenn Moore shower set with us for almost a half an hour. Yeah.
A guy that we tried to get our very first year, three years ago, we were two ships passing in the
night. He was so gracious. Because when you have somebody like that on the show, you want to
make sure that you're, you're talking about the project that they, that they're there to promote.
Yeah. But he was even like, no, guys, we can talk about these other things.
Told some great stories about 24. He melted Chad's brain with his line from under siege.
Then the next week, we have Leah Thompson, who could not have been nicer if she tried.
Her and hunter, our hunter Carson at the same time was a really good interview. I just
wasn't back to that yesterday and how engaging the, all of our guests were incredibly engaging.
Every year we do the show and we finish and I say to myself, I could not be more proud of this show.
And I say that without ego, it's not an egotistical thing that I'm saying that because of
everybody involved, we leave the death and I go, that's, that's the pinnacle dude.
And then the next year, it gets even better. And just listening back to the show this week,
I'm constantly amazed that we're, we are embraced like we are by the death. We could not be
more thankful to everybody involved at the Dallas International Film Festival. They're gracious
to us. They engage everybody. Like, yeah, what I love about the people at the death is
when you're talking to them, you are the most important person in the room at that time.
They're not kind of like halfway listening to you and kind of seeing who else is in the room.
They're talking to you. And that's what makes this film festival. And that's what's special.
At the opening press thing that we did, John was like, I want to talk to each one of you personally.
And he did, yeah, John Wildman, who were huge fans of and did an amazing job. We cannot
think everybody involved. And how gracious they are to each other. You'll leave pepper,
who's the president of Dallas Film Society. Like, he's the guy. He is just as easily
making sure everybody gets their recognition. He's an amazing person and amazing speaker at the
I net the press thing. John came up because there's two things. It's hard to work with kids and
don't ever follow, ever follow the lead pepper when you have to make you sleep. We got you got Sarah
Harris to do the show for the first time this year. I know she's one of the busiest women on the
planet, but she sat down with us and was absolutely amazing. Dev and Pike had the party rolling
right after DFS honors. This by every measure was a successful show in my personal opinion.
Everything went without a hitch. Everybody was happy. The buzz was all over town. They managed
multiple venues really, really well, which was impressive. I never thought at any point, you know,
when I had to go for one theater to another, I never had the panic moment that I wasn't going
to make it on time. Let's talk about the volunteers. You had a great group of volunteers that
kept everything right where it needed to be. Nobody got crazy with it because a part of it's when
your volunteers are calm. Everybody else is calm and everybody was knowledgeable. They showed me where
I needed to be. Absolute. Everything was top notch yet again this year. I'm not complaining.
I mean, I can't. I love the death. You know it. It's it's it's it's our favorite shows we do every
year. You know, I'm in that thing where it's like, I can't say wait to say the words, we're bad.
And you know, we're almost we're all you. If you can believe, come October when we get to see
our friends from Dallas video fest, which Bart Weiss is one of those quality human beings I know,
that'll be our starting our fifth year of covering phone festivals. Like that melts my brain,
dude. Yeah. It absolutely melts my brain that people like having us around and letting us do the
things that we do. You know, we do our best to put on a fairly professional show. We really hear something
and I think they realize what us is that not their tutor on horn is where they're for the
they're for them. For the directors, we're there for the actors. We we could have a guy who's
doing his first acting role. Then the next week, it have a list celebrity. And we try to treat
all of them with the eatable amount of respect and give them every opportunity. Because again,
we're about shameless self promotion. Yeah. And we want to help them promote their film. And the fact
that the diff gives us access like they do, it's we couldn't be more thankful. We really,
really couldn't. And Sir, you did work. Don't sell yourself short. I always tell you. I
appreciate that. Yeah. But you did work, bro, because without you doing what you do,
channel lost, I'm going to say it because we don't have, we can't run the show and grab guests
at the same time. Yeah. And most people walk by, they don't even know what we're doing,
much less what we're doing it for. So you doing what you do and making, giving people the awareness
of the show, what we're doing and why we're doing it, that's what makes the whole the that's
as Chad talked about John Lawman. That's the straw that stirs the drink. I mean, you just kept it
moving, bro. Yeah. And there's no intuition. It's a challenge. But I love it. That's my challenge.
I love doing it. And you make it look easy. Yeah. To make it look easy, but I know how hard you
work. But it to our show. I'm on front five ten minutes. Yeah. But I'm cool with it. I'm
right worth it. I've turned the beginning five ten at the end. Yeah. Yeah. Later. You know,
and you kept us on time. Yeah. Because the general rule of these things is I'm going to roll with
you until you tell me this is the last guest. Yeah. Because if we try to put a cap on it,
sometimes likely a Thompson or like a Glenn Moore shower that don't get aren't able to do the
show, too much later in. Yeah. If I'd have put a cap on it, a lot of times we wouldn't get those guests.
Yeah. In my class here, we had Diego Luna and all them on, you know. I mean, it's, it just keeps
getting better to you. Yeah. So we had to think the whole crew. An amazing job by everybody involved
in the Dallas International Film Festival. Yeah. Fortunately, Chad's not here tonight has some it,
you know, he had some family obligations. But that's all he and I talked about as we were
tearing down the show and and just kind of decompressing a little bit is watching how much fun
everybody else was having. Whether, whether they were there as a filmmaker or at the, they were
a past holder or maybe they just wanted to get to one movie that they wanted to see. We cannot wait
to do it all again. And in 50 weeks, we're going to do it all again. Yeah. Again. Anything
else before we wrap this up? I think we're good. All right. Let's do the plugs.
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