Special Edition WWE Survivor Series 2017

It is 6-0-1 on the East Coast.
It is 3-0-1 on the West Coast.
It is the 19th of November in the year of our Lord 2017, Season 8, Episode 19, I believe
sequentially this is 422 times this voice has welcomed you to the Clubhouse Podcast.
Whether you're listening live here on you stream, whether you are listening on our archive,
whether you are listening on your favorite podcast app we don't care how you listen
we're just glad you're here.
Welcome.
My name is Rob, I am the executive producer for the Clubhouse Podcast, but I think I've
actually screwed this up, didn't I?
Nope.
It is 422, it is Season 8, Episode 19, okay.
I just saved it wrong in my field here.
Again, my name is Rob, I'm the executive producer of the Clubhouse Podcast, and as far
as my day job is concerned, I'm on vacation, Nina, Nina, Nina.
Now granted, they've got the last laugh because starting next Monday, I'll be on the road
for two weeks, but that's a whole different issue for a whole another time.
We're on a little bit early today, but there's a reason for that.
We're going to get to that here in just a moment, chance still out on assignments.
We do want to say happy Thanksgiving week to everybody, hope you checked out our show last
week, or we talked about some of the things we are thankful for.
And then next week, we're full bore for three weeks before we take two weeks off, because
Christmas Eve and New Year's Eve are both on Sundays, so we're going to have ourselves
a nice little break to have ourselves as well.
Joining me in the co-host here is the Lady of the House, and a woman who is still coming
down after her adrenaline rush last evening, which we'll talk about here momentarily.
Generally, this is here.
Welcome, friend.
Evening, and we need to give compliments to your shirt.
You usually acknowledge ours.
We're going to get there in a minute.
We're going to get there.
Next to her is the official fact checker of the show, and a man that's some day, I pray.
We'll learn to just say, hey, Rob, where's this thing I'm looking for instead of tearing
up my living room?
You may know him as fond, don, go, but his mom and even don't for it.
I'm going to call him don for it.
Welcome, sir.
Someone needs to clear out the...
I didn't have to clear out anything.
It was right there in front of you.
Well, though, like my mother said, if it was a snake, it would have bit you.
Hey, why do you have those old ones in there for four years ago?
That's my house.
I can do whatever I want in my house.
Why can't you read?
Is the real question...
Well, is she a...
When I say the words, what I say the words look for my handwriting.
Now, that's bad enough, but the fact that you picked it up, looked at it, saw my handwriting,
put it down, and then dug through five other things.
That's where the issue comes into play.
For those of you listening, you have no idea what we're talking about, and that's okay.
I'm not a handwriting expert.
Okay, you've known me for how long, and you've seen how many things I've written on
computer.
As we continue, now you've seen handwritten things, too, sir.
As we continue around the dais, we get to a man who is also with us last evening, and
is responsible for my t-shirt this evening.
That looks like the raw logo, and it says, who booked this crap?
Alex is back.
Welcome back, sir.
Just joining us as we continue clockwise around the dais, is the return of a man who's
trimmed it up a little bit.
The ginger ninja has trimmed up the beard of it, Andrew Beckham is here.
Welcome back, sir.
Great to be here.
Great to have you back with us.
We're rounding out the dais, because we introduced them together, because they tend to show
up together.
It's a man with the second coolest t-shirt in the room, and a guy that's wearing the same
t-shirt in the room that he wore the last time he was here.
I'll let you figure out which one is rich.
Greg and Russ are here, gentlemen.
Welcome back.
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This Survivor Series Day, the final major of the year, is upon us.
That's why we're on a little bit early, because it is an early pay-per-view, and it is four
hours, so get your caffeine ready.
It's also another very, very special day today, because today is my sister's birthday.
Today is Charlotte's birthday.
She's going to be here at some point.
I'm very, very excited for this.
Her birthday always happens to be Survivor Series week, and this year just happens to be
Survivor Series Day.
I did talk to her this morning.
She will be here at some point.
We're not sure where LA is at this point.
Doc should be here in a few minutes.
He's running a little bit late.
But if LA doesn't make it, I'm not going to know what to do, because Doc says if he doesn't
make it in time, just to pick everybody that LA doesn't.
So I don't know what's going to happen there.
So just let's get some updates and corrections.
I have not listened to last week's show yet, just because I was teaching literally all
week, and two screenings, and reviews, and praise and worship, and Van rehearsal.
And last night, I have not gotten a chance to listen to the last week's show.
So I'm just assuming we're clean, because Doc always keeps up with this stuff if I don't.
So far, it seemed good.
Okay.
It was a bit of a longer show last week, but it was a really, really good show.
We had a great time.
All right.
So let's do some points updates.
Possible 125 total.
Justin and Alex not on the board this year.
They'll be on the board come January, but they both went five and three.
Chad has 53.
He was, did not appear for TLC.
So he's at a 424 win percentage, because there was a gimmie.
So technically, he went one in seven.
Andrew also won in seven, but he also, no showed for TLC, and didn't send any predictions.
But he's still three points ahead of Chad with a 448 win percentage.
Doc is three points ahead of Andrew.
So he's got 59 points.
He's got a 472 win percentage.
Everybody but one person went five and three at TLC.
We had a consistent showing for TLC.
LA is 10 points ahead of Doc with 69.
It was a 552 win percentage.
Steven is a point ahead of LA.
Steven's actually in Houston for survivor series tonight.
He was at NXT last night, and we're going to talk about that here in a little bit, but
he did send his pick.
So we're good there.
He's got 70 points.
He's got 560 win percentage.
I'm seven points ahead of him, 592 win percentage, and Don is the only person that did not go
five and three at TLC, because Don went seven and one.
So he is now 18 points in the lead.
He has 70, his win percentage is 736.
Now, we are definitely going to be changing the scoring system next year, because every
year he runs away with it, like every year, by like, usually by like the July pay-per-view.
It's over.
So I want to make it a little bit more fair and equitable.
It's not that I want Don to lose.
I do.
But I want this to be a little bit more competitive, because my problem is I tend to, I do my predictions
more from my heart than my head more often than not, and Don's the exact opposite.
Don actually uses wrestling logic.
In our pick one chain, unfortunately, yeah.
So next year, we're going to put some variables in.
The risk will be greater, but the reward will also be greater.
So do math.
Do math.
So let's, let's grade the card now as we talk about TLC.
Steven said a C plus, he did not give me an updated grade, Jen, you give it a B minus,
what do you think now?
I enjoyed it, so I think I'll stick with my B minus.
Don, you give it a C.
C minus Alex, you said D plus, I'll bump it up to C minus, it was better than I expected.
I said D plus, and I'm staying right there.
By the way, we have breaking news from the NFL.
The bills have benched Nathan Peterman after five first half interceptions.
They're down at the half to the chargers 40 to seven.
So you're saying there's a chance, there's a chance for them to lose by more, and I'm
okay with that because it's buffalo.
All right, so let's get into the show, the week that was in our sport.
It was announced last night that Survivor Series, which is in Houston, Houston.
Thank you, Bob and Tom, for ruining that word for me.
It's going to be an LA next year.
So LA is going to get, I guess though, some of us, I am still in New York, so they'll
just, they'll have a major next year.
Congratulations to the rock's daughter, Simone Garcia Johnson.
She's going to be the globe's ambassador this year at the Golden Globe.
She'll be one of the presenters this year, or one of the people that brings out the
awards and stuff.
But she has also said she wants to go into pro wrestling and father and her dad's footsteps.
Them strong jeans, kids.
You look at all the Samoans in the business, and they are all related in one way or another.
So congratulations to her.
Scott Dawson of the Revival set to return mid next month is what they're saying at this
rate.
So maybe they'll be able to be on offer more than two weeks at a time.
And I don't get it because I like those guys, but it's just, they're just not having
good luck from the health standpoint.
Few raw notes.
I told you last night as we were going to our, on our adventure, Alex that I had one thing
for Michael Cole and one thing for Booker T.
Oh no.
So let's start with Michael Cole.
What now?
No.
Quote.
205 live is the most exciting hour on television.
Really Michael Cole?
Where can I watch it?
I mean, granted, I've been saying for a year, for all of that years, but it's only been
off for a couple of years.
But I've been saying since the get go, they should re air 205 live on USA at Saturday mornings
at noon Eastern.
So that way, you know, you get people two days, three or days to watch it.
But no, who am I?
Give me the book and a checkbook for a year.
And during the, yeah, I want to specify which checkbook because they might take you up
on it and give you the little one.
I don't want, I mean, H can keep the NXT checkbook because he's doing a great job, even
though I still think they should re air it that too on the weekends, but, but yo, give
me the main roster checkbook for a year, please.
Uh, during, in the first segment with Jason Jordan and Kurt Angle when they were in the
locker room, was I the only one that was waiting for him to go, I learned it from you, dad.
I learned it from you.
That's an 80s reference.
Sorry kids with closing.
That angle is so bad.
No pun intended.
I hate that.
No pun intended.
That's the unironic use suck.
Um, I do, I do what I'm saying.
I do want to see, I do want to say God bless Paul Heyman, which what could be the promo
of the year on Monday night with Adlib.
Yes, nobody does it better.
Nobody in the business right now does it better.
Nobody.
Um, and Booker T.
We have some for Booker T this week.
What's that?
As we're running down the card, Booker T talks about one of the matches and he says, right
here on the WWE network, I'm watching USA, I don't know about you guys, but I know that
Ross not on the WWE network.
It should be, you know, they should do the exact opposite way, a couple of days put
wrong on the network, because I, doesn't Hulu like edit it?
Because I've heard you can watch it on Hulu, but I've heard a Hulu edit some of it down.
Now, if you miss it on Monday night, you can watch it on Saturdays on Universal HD.
They reshown Raw and Smackdown back to back.
If you don't, if you like forget to set your DVR, if you're not smart enough like me
to put on a season pass, but I don't have USA, so, you know, that's true, that's fair.
I have Hulu.
So maybe they pulled it off Hulu, but I know for a time it was there.
So I haven't found it, maybe it's just me, I did find Divas though.
Total Divas?
Yes.
Sorry.
Um, so you're one of the three people that watches it?
I'm learning some games, you know, I'm sorry, that's my fault that you found it.
That is scripted, unscripted television.
You need to call yourself a friend to her.
Keep talking, you're going to lose some Grappuccino rights.
At least I'm learning some wrestling things.
That's fair.
I mean, it may not be the best of shows, but there are terms, there are things that happen
that I am learning some wrestling.
So a couple of impact headlines because, you know, we're contractually obligated.
There's still, um, Gail Kim has relinquished the knockouts title and retired this past
week.
Congratulations.
And apparently they're going to have a tournament with the three knockouts left to
the crown of new champion.
So they got that going for them.
So they're going to do that 64 group thing like they did that one time about two years
ago, when people are still learning the company and they show the old matches and stuff
like that.
Wouldn't surprise me at this point.
Well, they just have NASCAR due a tournament for them.
I mean, that'd be awesome.
They probably got the same.
No, it's going to be whoever picks the pizza correctly.
It's a couple more people have left the company.
The Mahabali Shira, who they, they, they showed, they, I mean, he came in right before
right.
I was unable to start watching him.
He's a really big dude, but he's a really lucky in the ring.
And the swaggle, yeah, he's got his left the company.
So, and we also found out this week, from the obvious institute, this study was conducted.
Storms leaving the company was because they couldn't afford the 150 to $200,000 a year
salary that they promised him, which if you go back and you lose, I don't even know
what episode it was, but when we announced that he had resigned with the company for that
money, somebody in the studio, and I don't want to mention any names, but his initials
or me said, this will not work because they won't be able to pay him.
Smartest man alive.
Question.
Or I can do math.
They're making it hail for him?
Yeah, pretty much.
It was Canadian money, because remember, they're moving to Canada.
Is he out?
Yeah, he's done.
He's done.
They had their last tapings week before.
Okay, so the question is the under contract, but the no compete or can he go?
I don't think impact smart enough to put him on a no compete.
I think you'll see him at the rumble.
I'm saying it now.
And they will, they will keep him out of the headlines.
He will be a surprise entrant into the rumble.
There will not be an NXT, because remember, he did show up once on NXT, and then the next
day he resigned with impact.
This is going to be one of those, whereas the rumble's in Philly this year.
It'll be one of those three, two, one, and there's that real pregnant pause, and then
you're going to hear some wheels off theme, and he's going to come strolling out, probably
with root in the ring.
That is my official prediction.
He will blow the competition away.
And they should call the team ALCASH instead of beer money, just to rub it into them.
Let's just call him Whiskey Ransom.
Point it up.
That sounds like a great band name.
It's going to be my country band, Whiskey Ransom.
Whiskey, yeah, there you go.
What are you just going to go with logger loot on them to?
Just do beer money and steal their song, buy it from them.
We were talking about that last night.
On the way home, how I'll impact, they'll do anything for money, impact what they're doing.
Speaking of case, they'll come out to Corbin's old music, because that heavy guitar riff.
So last night, a group of us, four people in this studio, one person in the green room,
and a couple more that will be on their way soon, or at least one more that's on their
way soon.
Genroam, the Don Ford, Alex, myself, and the Fantastic Faith Ford, as well as LA and Don
Sister-in-Law.
All of us piled into two vehicles last night and headed over to Gillies in Southside, Lamar.
And we got to go see a little ROH last night.
Ring of Honor was in town for survival of the fittest.
If you check out my Instagram at yes, that Rob Irving, you can see some of the pictures
that I posted last night.
First of all, you know you're close to the ring when you can hear Ian Rigatoni doing
the commentary.
That was pretty cool.
I mean, we were literally five rows back.
I mean, they were great seats.
We want to thank everybody over there.
We got Gary Jester and Mark Kruskole from actually from our age for giving us some
we had some press passes and sat down, had a great time.
That crowd was hot.
What I love about ROH is that ROH doesn't try to book huge venues.
I mean, you figured there was maybe 700 and 50, 800 people.
I mean, it was sold out.
Oh, no.
I'd say they actually hit the 1000 if you looked at all the standing room.
Yeah, that's fair.
That's fair.
They had a meet and greet before when we got there, the young bucks.
I mean, you know, everybody has their faults.
I got to say hi to my idol up there.
You did get to talk to Dalton Castle.
He was a little bit of a word of bromance.
He winked at me.
Dalton did.
Yeah, because somebody grabbed the door, please.
Alex got to have a nice conversation with Christopher Daniels.
Almighty Christopher Daniels.
Get better.
Yes.
We're going to talk about that here in a minute.
At the break, the kingdom was over by the March table cutting provos on random people,
even though that's not really the kingdom, but you know, whatever.
They did the job and they did well.
We did not get to see Bowie Ray.
He was advertised.
Did not make it.
They might have been selling the injury from that episode of RoH.
We did not get to see cast cast was supposed to take on Jay Lee, I mean, Kenny King for
the RoH television title instead.
It was Scorpio Sky.
Me.
Hey, Docs here.
You can't bet against LA because LA's not here yet.
So I'm glad you got here before we got to.
We're talking about RoH last night.
Had a great time seeing Cody and Christopher Daniels for the RoH World Heavyweight title in
a Texas death match.
And it was an excellent match.
We had the tag titles on the line and what turned out was originally was supposed to be
team CLL versus the Motor City Machine Guns actually turned into a four way with the
dogs and a beer city bruiser and Silas Young and I yelled at Silas Young and he heard
me because he got the ring and we said, we love you fake Magnum TA.
That did not go well for him.
But he did respond.
He did respond because I mean we're five rows back and like you could hear everybody
in there.
Oh yeah.
I mean, everybody was yelling at the guys and you know, you say about the kingdom they give
us a shout out.
I guess they did.
Oh, did they really?
On the Facebook.
Yeah.
Oh, that's right.
We need to get the audio pulled from that somehow so we can put it into the chat.
Everybody was great.
Uh, that now you know my issues with cheeseburgers, we'll talk about it on the show.
Fantastic faith for it.
She likes cheeseburger.
Dude, you need to talk to her because she disrespected my boy, okay.
Speaking of cheeseburger, I meant to tell you this last evening, I don't know if you heard
this and we're kind of off topic about the stadium tour this summer.
Buffett and the Eagles.
Okay.
That's happening.
This summer we're doing a stadium tour together.
I thought the Eagles were done.
No, they've got Fry's kid playing with them now and Vince Gill.
So when they're doing a stadium tour together with Buffett.
So be ready for that.
Oh, I want to see.
Uh, no.
But that was, that tag match was great.
We got to see Jay Lethal and Dalton Castle team up to take on the young bucks.
Fest only going to happen in a house show match in the night.
For those of you that don't understand, like I do bag on house shows because they tend
to be face-fests and they're not.
You're never going to see anything like titles change.
But I'd forgotten how much fun house shows can be because you get to see guys kind of
stretch themselves or a lot of times you'll see gimmicks get dropped and people just being
themselves afterwards after the death match, which by the way featured a power bomb through
a table on fire and Daniels got hurt.
I saw, I was right behind him and I saw him.
He was a crispy critter and if you want to see some video on that, it's at, at, at
Vex Boy.
Yes.
On, on Instagram.
But after the show, the young bucks came back out with Marty Scroll who've wrestled,
Josh The Goods Woods in a great match.
Yes.
Then they just kind of fooled around for a minute and then Marty Scroll saying, baby, hit,
hit me baby one more time, which was a bit of a thing.
But it was a really, really great time and I want to say, again, thank you to everybody
that, that was, that had us out there.
Jen got a hug from Marty Scroll so it was, it was a good time there.
We had, we had such an amazing time, I got to give it to LA, even though he's not here.
Oh, LA was on fire.
Oh, LA made the bite.
He came up with the best name, lethal castle.
Yes.
And that was, that started a chance.
He started more than one chant at one point.
He was chanting that she's burger, you're a vegan and Taven replied, yes.
He actually referenced the Kenny King, the beat down clan, but you talk about that.
Kenny King recognized him for it.
Okay, you got to give it to the house shows and I got, I got more respect for Daniels now.
Not just because what he went through and that stuff.
But there was, in the middle of the match, there was some idiot who was saying some bad
stuff about Cody saying, you know, you got the total because of this and all that.
And Daniels, before he was going for the big move, the stop is looking to just shut the,
you know, what up?
Jack.
He called him a jackass.
And the whole crowd started chanting, thank you Daniels.
One of the young bucks climbed one of the metal posts that's at Gilles and flipped off
of it at one point.
There are no put holes.
That was a spider man moonsault, yeah.
At one point, Daniels took three pieces of the guardrail, put one of them on top of
the other two, like a table and then he went through it.
Well, I mean, it was, it was great wrestling.
It was great interaction.
We had an absolute blast last night.
So tonight is the final night of survival in the fittest of Oklahoma City.
And then there'll be pretty much off until final battle a week from Friday.
And the women cleaned up with the baby powder.
We also, yes, we did have a no DQ match.
That was a good match with the women.
And on commentary was one Madison rain, which I don't know why though, how you doing
chance didn't start then, even though I told people, this is when you do the, how you
doing chance at one, I just decided at some point I was just going to be like that guy.
And some of you said, I would have a valid point.
Yeah.
I was like at one point like I just said, I find your methods questionable.
You know, it was just one of those nights with your five rows back, you got to do wheels
off stuff.
And that kid that was like two.
Oh, we had a nine, he had eight or nine and totally bought it.
And there was another little girl that was behind the time keeper table, totally bought
in.
And that just made it that much better.
Oh, seeing her mimicking the female wrestling, marking out was just adorable.
And the guy who maybe he was feeling pretty good in front of us who had no love for Todd
Sinclair, which we'll talk about off air.
They drove in from Missouri.
Oh, did they really?
They came in from Springfield for this match.
And then you had the couple that was in front of us where you could tell that the only reason
she was there was because he bought her a ticket because she was on her phone the entire
night and never looked up.
And not and when she was falling asleep on him and he stood up to watch the video, it fell
over.
Oh, no.
Somebody lost a bet.
Yeah, that's what it was.
And it was, but it was so much fun.
If ROH comes to your town, just go no matter if it's a TV taping and I pay per view or
a house show, just go because this, I mean, when you hear the chant, this is wrestling,
they're not kidding.
And on top of it, you get the old school feel because I can't believe Daniels was working
the merch booth.
Not doing it.
Yeah.
They reminded me of old school ECW, but he could not have been more gracious.
All of the personalities that were there were really awesome.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
And we were literally sitting right under the cameras the whole time.
So and thanks Alex for buying us for tickets and all of this could be a comedy.
I want to.
Hey, I miss the boys, though.
I don't care.
The boy, we're still talking about ROH, but you know, but you know what, Don, if that's
the worst thing that you have to say about that show, it was, it was an amazing show.
I mean, we're talking, I mean, we're talking ROH right now.
So, right.
Do you think that's a bad move to get rid of the boys right now?
I think it did not bother me in the least last night because he was still Dalton Castle,
but him coming out with that outfit with the big, you know what I'm saying?
He still did the whole peacock pose in the rain, they didn't have the peacock feather fans
last night there.
I don't need it.
I don't think he needed it.
I thought he was still brilliant.
I know, whole thing where I think the young blocks gave each other a kiss for brotherly love
and they were trying to get, no, don't be on this show after all, and but I think it's
a mistake for him to get rid of the boys.
Well, it's not maybe not his decision.
I know, but I'm talking to people, all right.
They're listening.
Ed and a house match.
Maybe that's why he was a house, not a, no, the last TV taping, they were.
No, yeah, he hasn't been on the TV.
No, no, I actually think it's a good move for them to remove the boys because it makes
to more credible as the stand alone.
And what I really, really dug to,
one of the things I really dug,
and I've been watching wrestling since I was a kid,
you don't understand the impact of a suicide dive
until you see it 10 feet in front of you.
And more importantly, hear it.
Yeah, like when lethal came through the ropes
and hit the young bucks,
like I was like, that took me off guard,
and that's really tough to do.
And I mean, again, ROH Kudos,
you guys did an amazing job last night.
We can't wait till you come to town again.
And we're gonna go again.
It was amazing.
I could not have asked for better for my first live event,
but I do have to add one thing
from the female perspective.
It is the first time I have been able to go
to a sporting event, walk up, go in,
do my thing, come back out.
And the men's room line is still four times longer.
You, I agree with that.
That was surprising.
This was the first time I've been somewhere
that there was no line for the ladies,
and there was a line for the men's,
and I was like, victory is mine.
And even there was, there was a misprint from them.
Steven Amell was with the bullet club,
but he actually appeared in San Antonio Friday night.
It was not in Dallas, I'm sorry, night.
I do want that vigilante club shirt.
And I mean, watching that,
and I'm sorry.
And I'm sorry.
And I'm sorry.
And I'm sorry.
And I'm sorry.
And I'm sorry.
And I'm sorry.
The bullet club, interesting tweet from somebody
that just their entire tweet was just hashtag bullet club
and bullet club responded basically with,
hmm, and it is one summer ray.
Yeah, there's rumors.
She put up a tweet yesterday
that just said hashtag bullet club,
and all three of them responded.
Cody and the young bucks.
And one of them is just a shot of Cody
like putting his hand up to his ear
and pointing at the camera.
I'm not saying.
She has a no compete.
I mean, does she have a no compete right now?
Dude, she's been gone long enough.
It wouldn't matter.
Yeah, she was released.
If you leave the company, it's different.
If you're released, you can bring it to your home.
Okay, so they, they went,
because they say they get on terms,
they said, oh, yeah, no, yeah, there wasn't,
there wasn't bad feelings.
So does that mean that's bullet babe 3.0?
I don't know.
I'm good with it.
Jack Swagger has signed with Bellator.
So you got that going for you.
NXT Takeover War Games was last night.
We watched it today.
Again, Steven was down there.
Said it wasn't the best show that he's seen,
but it was still a good show.
He really liked the Alistair Black Velveteen Dream match,
which was an excellent match.
Had a couple of new champions crowned last night.
If you haven't watched it in plan on doing so,
spoilers are coming in three, two.
Don't say the one last night.
Of course, we had a brand new women's champion crown
because it was as vacated by Oscar.
And our own Ember Moon is your new NXT Women's Champion,
Dallas's own.
So congratulations to her.
And Drew McIntyre dropped the NXT title to Andre C.
And Almas, who by the way, he and his lovely sidekick
were actually got to hang out with Steven last night.
He texted me this morning and said he saw them
had a few drinks with them at the bars.
Alina Vega, did I say that right?
And the undisputed hero wins the war games match.
And it started out a little slow,
but there were some really great spots in there.
So congratulations to NXT.
But Alina didn't look as full as it could have been.
But still a good show, always enjoy watching NXT.
But Drew McIntyre has possibly, has a bicep tear as a result of his match.
Rumors may be they may have changed that ending that match on the fly.
So we don't know what's going on there.
Another big story from this week, James Ellsworth was released.
The first one to win women's money in the bike, you mean?
Well, here's the thing.
And there are rumors that this might be the same kind of situation
as when Daniel Bryan was quote unquote released after the nexus invasion angle.
There are rumors and take this for what you're paying for it.
That this is an angle that will culminate at WrestleMania.
Where he wrestles Charlotte.
After a change, if you know what I mean.
Oh my God.
These are rumors I am hearing.
Now, apparently he's incredibly well liked backstage.
Because everything I've read this with your people are just like,
look, the dude did the deal.
He did the job.
He did what he had to do.
And there was a story about Jericho after his first run,
reaching out to him saying, you did a great job with your 15 minutes.
I'm so proud of you.
So.
And the thing is like, I really hope that that's not the plan
because that's going to be really uncomfortable, really fast.
Him and Carmilla are like really good friends in their life.
They little like tweeted a couple of times.
So, I mean, would that be a real life where he's doing that real life or just an angle?
No, that's an angle.
Just to their talking angle.
I like, I like, I don't like the guys as like the personality of the character,
but I think he's, from everything I've read, he's a quality human being.
So I can't really hang on that.
And you know, if they could redo the character, I might be able to be behind him,
but I just, I did not care for the character.
And I didn't care for a man getting involved in that.
Then they should just call him cinchino, but that's just me.
Okay, you're welcome, America.
So SmackDown notes that opening segment was terrible,
where Shane was pumping up the troops.
The blue pep rally.
I'm going to skip this one, because I told Alex last night
that I'm going to make a bold prediction on tonight's match.
And I'm going to hold on to my next point until we get to that match,
because I'm making a very bold prediction tonight.
All right.
Was the Ric Flair Charlotte moment scripted?
Because I've heard it both ways.
Of course.
I hope not, because that was, that, that seemed genuine to me,
that she didn't know he was there.
But I also read earlier that day that the room was used there.
The music and all that.
I mean, he was there, but I also want to say,
well, I mean, how hard is it to queue up somebody's music, Don?
They've got to say to the computer.
But I do want to send this shout out, though,
the fact that they pulled the woo out of the opening of his theme.
Shout out to them for that, because I don't need the woo
to start Ric Flair's theme.
Thus sparks my thoozylish plays, you know what's Ric Flair.
I don't need a woo, because if you guys noticed last night,
I don't woo when there's, when there's knife chops,
because I come from a time where you didn't have to woo.
You just, that was just a flair thing and you knew it.
That's kind of respecting too.
I agree with you.
I absolutely agree with you.
That's what I'll do, because I also am very uncomfortable
with the two, the two count.
And now people are going too sweet.
I'm out.
Well, maybe they're doing that because it's like, you know,
the thing with the lawsuit.
Oh, yeah, but though they were doing it on NXT last night.
Oh, were they?
They were doing it during takeover.
Well, that, that was started out with a little bit
just in the ROH and New Japan.
And then all of a sudden the season just came out
and it became its own monster.
Just like, and now it's one sweet, by the way.
Okay, she didn't know.
The FTRR, I mean, yeah, that's.
Yeah.
But we're in the tournament anyway.
Just have a one shot show, let them go at it,
and just see what happens.
Let's just get, put this thing to sleep.
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We're gonna have one new review coming your way this week
for a movie coming out Wednesday.
What would we do?
Donald, we recording Tuesday, is that the plan?
Yeah, we could do Tuesday.
Yeah, that works.
Okay, let's do that Tuesday then.
Yeah.
All right, so, because I'm on vacation this week,
so I'm going to try.
Perfect, because I'll be in South Dallas.
Okay, that'll work out.
So, can we say what it's gonna be?
Let's let people wonder.
Okay.
Let's leave a dangling out there.
You gotta keep people.
It's gonna be a hit.
You're gonna know the movie.
Yeah, you'll know it right away.
You'll want to know what we thought about it.
Maybe you went by Starbucks today this morning
because it was a little chilly outside.
And maybe you had a little some of that
that reflects the title of this.
You don't know?
I did.
All right, so we're gonna run the card.
I'm trying to kill a little bit of time
because LA should be here any moment.
Does he lose half the point, Stan?
He'll lose, okay.
You know the rule, but no, here's, here's, here's, here.
Okay, okay, he may be barely on time.
No, if he doesn't make it, we give him all faces.
No, no, what?
So, one time Andrew got, we'll say it on his things
because he had before.
No, that was, that was because Andrew
wasn't gonna be here.
That was different.
Well, we're doing it.
No, we're making pick team red on everything.
Just for me.
Oh, jeez, but no, he'll just not get points
for the ones he misses.
We're gonna see if this is him,
which it should, it's gonna be him or Charlotte,
one of the two.
Again, today is Charlotte's birthday,
so we wanna make sure we say happy birthday to my sister,
whom I love greatly, and I'm trying to really vamp
right now because I'm not seeing shadows moving
in the other room.
We actually, we've actually, there he is.
Brother, you are, you are two minutes from Missing Picks.
It's all I'm saying.
You're literally made it bro.
No, it's a major, we started an hour earlier.
Remember?
We, we talked about this last night.
How nice.
Yes, we did.
We talked about it at SummerSlam too.
We talked about last night,
the dogs don't remember that.
That's fair.
That's fair.
There was a gimmie.
Oh.
Sorry.
Ah.
The man gets his own interest music,
and we keep, we don't say it's copper music,
because it's his song.
It's his song.
That's why I cut it off.
All right, so there was a gimmie
because there was actually a second pre-show match
that was added out of nowhere.
There's three of them.
Yeah, there was, there's the Elias.
There's a Zane Owens tag team,
oh, I didn't even know about that.
As we were coming in here,
there was Elias versus Matt Hardy.
Elias did win that match.
I don't know what happened in the other one,
but the only one that we're going to count
because the other two will be gimmies.
Cruiserweight championship on the line in the pre-show,
Enzo Omore versus Calisto, Jen.
Enzo.
All right, Don.
Enzo.
Alex, it remains the Zo Show.
Doc.
Enzo, for sure.
Oh, he went with the heel.
Right off the bat,
Elias giving him this thing guy.
Oh, I'm just still doing.
I'm seeing what Elias will do.
Because Elias is going to be,
his attention's going to be divided this evening.
Yes, he is.
So what we'll do for your brothers,
we'll have the game on in here in the studio
so you can kind of go back and forth as needed.
I will go Zo.
All right, Andrew.
Zo.
All right, Greg.
Do it, do it.
All right, Russell.
Calisto.
The lone voice of Calisto.
And it will stay that way.
Because I'm going to say,
Enzo, this is such a weird situation
because we know he's on the outs with the roster.
They're not even letting him into the locker room at this point.
With the top merchandise.
Yeah, so that's really what I'm basing it on.
Yeah, I mean, that's what I'm basing it on.
He's selling.
Really, he's the only true heel that show has right now.
So yeah, but how much of that might be scripted
that he's on the outs with the people?
I mean, I believe it, but creative seems
to love those reports coming out.
So there's that.
Six, man, I mean, these are not going
to be in any specific order.
They're just the order of postcards of it.
It's always match with those guys.
Go in there already.
Yeah, step it in strong.
We did give you props for your, your vegan chant.
And the beat down crew reference.
I still think you should go and get half points to it.
And I also say it was a little weird.
Kenny King's trunk saying, hashtag roseboy on it.
I know it was a thing from the bachelor,
but it said roseboy.
And that was a little weird for me.
Why is there a road to meet for the answer?
I don't know.
There's a sudden.
You were the one talking to him.
All right, six man tag match.
The shield versus the new day, Don.
Shield without a doubt.
All right.
The original shield.
OK, Doc.
Oh, new day, but by disqualification.
OK, all right.
So Doc's leaning it.
I'm so tired.
It's even funny.
It's your mic.
Go ahead.
LA.
I can't see the shield drop in a match
when they just got all these characters.
And I want to say that when they were doing the half raw,
half shield shirt, that looked pretty cool on Tuesday.
But then raw did have the upper hand going into the show.
I'm going to do a stay shield by a nose.
OK, oh, I got to get Steven's picks in here.
Go ahead and do all pull this up.
Oh, it's the shield.
Well, hands down the shield.
All right.
I get a little classic German.
He'll be the shield.
All right.
Shield.
It's got to be the shield, because this is the first one.
By the way, Steven says Enzo.
He also says the shield.
All right.
So the rest of these are all going
to be champion versus champion's match
until we get to the survivors first.
So we have Miz versus Baron Corbin.
Let's see.
Steven says Miz and expect a face turn.
This comes from his text to me this morning.
He also got the new Oscar shirt, which
looks great, by the way.
Alex, I agree on the Miz, but no face turn.
All right, Doc.
Because you got two heals.
What are you going to do?
I think I'm going to go with Corbin.
OK.
Baron Corbin?
Well, that's three heals against one.
So you've got to go with the lesser.
Baron Corbin.
I'm going to press on that one.
I'm going to press.
I don't see a face turn.
It's coming, though.
My tagging partner isn't like me.
It's wonderful, but I think that the winner of this one
has to be Baron Corbin.
All right.
Andrew.
Miz has been talking too much smack.
Like, it's better than only him.
I really don't know.
Because once he's missed, I'll just turn it off.
Corbin.
All right.
Russ.
Corbin.
Corbin.
Jen.
I'm going to miss, but his misterrage is going to help with it.
All right, Doc.
Do you call him shenanigans on this?
Oh, yeah, it's me.
Well, since Corbin's still being Corbin,
I'm going to give it.
The Miz is going to win hands down.
You know what?
This one could go either way, in my opinion.
Miz is too hot.
He's too big right here.
Well, here's my thing.
He's the champ of the ball.
Stay with me.
I gave you your chance.
Give me mine.
A loss for Miz doesn't hurt him.
A loss for Corbin does, especially when
it comes to Smackdown.
And plus, I need to balance the scales,
because I've already given a match to Raw.
So now I have to give one to Smackdown
to even the scales.
So I'm going to say Baron Corbin.
Well, let's really talk about it.
He's really the raw champ right now,
even because Brock's never there.
It's fair.
I mean, that's fair.
I'm being honest.
That's a fair opinion.
Yeah, that's a fair opinion.
All right, tag team match.
The bar and the Usos.
Let's see.
Steven says the USOs, because he capitalized it.
Doc, the bar, the sheamus and Cesaro.
Because remember, they don't set the bar.
They are at the bar.
Which Jed is not wearing her shirt tonight, by the way.
I just want to put that out.
I wear it last time.
Doesn't matter, I'm just saying.
It's in the wash.
Yeah, I'm going with sheamus and Cesaro.
He's going with the bar.
L.A.?
This is a tough one.
I love both of these teams.
I'm going to say I'm going to be down since day one ish.
So your day one ish.
Your day one ish.
OK.
The Usos.
OK, Andrew says the bar.
The bar.
All right, Greg.
Usos.
Jen.
The bar.
Of course.
Does anybody care?
I think this is going to be a good match.
I really do.
I'll go with the smack down on this one, the Usos.
OK.
Alex, what do you think?
Usos.
OK, that's fair.
But you know what, I'm going to go with smack down on this one, too.
I think that the bar, again, this is another one of the situations
that a loss for the bar does nothing.
It doesn't hurt them.
It doesn't help them.
Right now, the Usos need to get on a winning streak
to give the belts credibility, even though they're blue.
So to do right over his head, right over his head.
You're hearing the TV.
Yeah, you're hearing the TV in the other room.
Unless somebody's playing someone their phone.
OK, me.
All right, not a problem.
Not a studio, I'll tell you.
A 20 box.
So here we go.
So women's champ versus women's champ,
because we had a title change on smack down this week.
Alexa Bliss, Charlotte Flair, LA, I believe, were to you.
As much as I want the queen to get this one, the WWE keeps giving
the W's to the goddess.
So I'm feeling blissful.
OK, Steven says, OK, there's certain things
that I'm going to give an extra point for.
And he says, by the way, if any of his notes happen,
he gets two bonus points and done and anyone else can suck it
because it's his idea and not yours.
These are his words.
These are his words.
They don't get the points you do.
And he wants to make it interesting.
Hello to everybody in bullet club sucks.
That was all from him today.
He says Charlotte, but the cash in happens tonight.
OK, this is the end of my point.
I think that let me let me retract.
OK, Charlie gets the dub.
Because something goes genetic and somehow I don't know if it
may be smacked down on smack down.
I think that it's back down on smack down crime.
Yes, I think that he comes out.
She's a little upset.
Takes it out on Charlotte.
That's when Carmella comes.
OK, fair enough.
But you still say Charlotte wins.
I'm going to say Charlotte gets the W because of that.
OK, because that is going to pick off the fact that she's
breaking.
All right, Andrew.
Good morning.
So Steven, change your mind.
No, I just remembered the suitcase, the briefcase.
Andrew, come on, guys, it's a one hour show.
We're going to remind you not when I'm here.
Russ, go.
It's going to be Charlotte Flair.
Greg, Charlotte Flair for cash in.
Jen, it's going to be layer based on a tap out.
OK, Doc, it's going to be a flaring cash in, of course.
Alex, for my big poll.
Hey, he had a bit of an HSO earlier today.
The hot sports opinion.
Here you go.
It's going to be Charlotte for the win.
And Carmella cashing in on bliss.
Oh, no, you can't.
It's already spanked.
They've never said that.
Yeah, they did.
Yeah, they have.
I'll have it.
OK, it could be a smack, Doc.
Yeah, I've never heard that.
Don't smack.
Oh, well, you know, my addiction to the bliss, plus I've
been watching a lot of tiny 4K stuff lately.
So it's definitely going to be bliss.
I think Alexa Bliss wins.
And that's why the cash in happens.
Because Charlotte just basically gets beat down.
Carmella cashing in.
Especially fresh off the L's worth release.
You have to do something.
I still want to see where it says.
So Charlotte gets the beat down.
Alexa Bliss wins.
That's my problem.
Charlotte gets beat down by Alexa Bliss, what you're saying.
Yeah, but I would like to play out.
Alexa Bliss ever beat down, though.
Who says she's going to do it?
Remember, she's got the friendship with Nia Jax.
Like the new day was saying, nobody.
Not team.
But no, hey, I'm just saying, but she's
got the Nia Jax in her corner too.
And if Charlotte is still lingering,
if Charlotte gets this, she'll be the first female to have NXT.
She was the last diva raw champ.
And then she'll be smacked out.
So she would be the first one.
Look at my girl with bring the stats.
Don, she's creeping up on you, dude.
She's creeping up on you, brother.
It's the other podcast, the Lillian Garcia.
Yes, her podcast.
Lillian!
Yay!
All right.
Shout out to Lillian Garcia.
Then the other match that ought to be interesting to say
the least, Brock Lesnar, AJ Styles, Andrew.
We're up to you.
That's easy.
Brock Lesnar.
Steven says Lesnar, I would love AJ,
but I've got to protect the F5 going into Nia.
Russ, AJ, Greg, AJ, Jen, Styles.
All right, Don, Brock, Alex.
So Steven picked his way too early pick
with the gender switch.
Yes.
Because remember, he sent me those picks this morning.
No, no, no, remember months ago.
Month ago, he said Samoa Joe would come in on gender.
So we'll talk about it later.
Steven switched to the gender switch?
No.
No, no.
Gender, gender.
L's for Jay.
OK, that's the worst.
I'm sorry.
Just put me down from the wrong side.
Something about number of cooks in a broth.
Doc, definitely Lesnar.
All right, L.A.
Lesnar needs straggling.
After 4.20, what do you do?
Straggling, L.A.
AJ rules a lot of this match toward the last five minutes.
Just like Lesnar always does.
Matches all the way here.
I agree with you.
I just, I love AJ.
And I would love to see AJ pull off this upset.
But we're just protecting the crap out of Lesnar.
The broker is already on the high from winning the build.
So him getting out of the way.
The match is only going to be five minutes.
That's the broker book longer.
So wait, was that styles or Lesnar?
Those would be Lesnar.
That's OK.
All right, so women survivor series elimination match.
Let's see.
You have Alicia Fox, Nia Jax, Asuka, Sasha Banks,
and Bailey for Raw.
Versus Becky Lynch, Carmella, Natalia,
she and Charlotte switched places, by the way.
Naomi and Tamina for SmackDown.
Steven says the women's match will be raw.
Dana takes out Asuka and Paige replaces her in the match.
I will give him bonus points for that.
Because that's a heck of a prediction,
and I could see it happening.
Because then you can still protect Asuka.
She doesn't ever get pinned.
And then you've got it replaced in the match.
Russ, I believe we're up to you.
All right, it's going to be Natalia.
So you're singing SmackDown wins.
SmackDown wins.
Natalia gets the pen.
It's going to come down and Natalia and Bailey in the final.
OK, that's good, there.
Greg.
It's going to be Team Raw.
All right, any specific predictions in this?
Sasha Banks and Natalia.
All right, Jen.
Raw and Natalia didn't pull specific.
You don't have to, they're done.
SmackDown and Bailey turn.
OK, that's why SmackDown.
All right, I want to point out if that happens.
I'll give you one for that.
Just one.
Just one.
I'll give you one for that.
I'm going to take it out.
You've got to give other people a chance to catch up here
in the last two paper views of this.
If it's Bailey, I'm going to take it and beat him over
the head with that point.
Woo!
Whoa.
Feisty.
I thought you did that for makeup.
Exactly, that's what I'm going to be doing at the point.
I will say it's going to be Team Raw with Asuka
as the sole survivor overcoming a two on one.
OK, you know.
Doc.
It's still like Becky Lynch, man.
I'm going to SmackDown.
All right, L.A.
Pfft.
Oh.
Oh.
Oh.
Thank you.
There are very few people in my life
that give this stink guy better than L.A. does.
Thank you, Litch.
You know what I'm saying?
He's relevant, dude.
He's always loved him some Becky Lynch.
You know that.
All right, sir.
Come on, we're running out of time.
We're running out of time.
We're running out of time.
Here we go.
This is what's going to happen.
OK.
Because this is the Raw show.
They're so predictable.
We obviously know Asuka's going to be the feature attraction.
Right.
She's going to get the pin with it for Raw.
She's going to be down two opponents to one.
OK.
Asuka's going to win the match.
Now, he's just stealing my lines.
Paige is not coming out until I'm raw or something like that.
All right, that's very sucks and pay-per-beat.
All right.
Andrew.
Andrew says raw.
And you started, right?
OK.
I, OK, here's my thing.
Raw wins this if for no other reason
than because of what my match and the prediction in the next match
is going to be.
There's going to be karmic balance here.
All right, so the Men Survivor Series elimination match.
Team Raw, Kurt Angle, Braun Strowman, Finn Balor, Samoa Joe,
and Triple H versus Shane McMahon, Randy Orton, Bobby
Rude, Shinsuke Nakamura, and John Cena.
Just remember, I said Smackdown for the Women's Match.
All right?
Great.
I'm going to have to say Team Raw.
See, Steven says Men's Smackdown wins,
and Bobby Rude gets the pin.
Jed.
Smackdown.
Don.
Well, if I could go back and that's in fifth grade,
yadi, yadi, yadi, yadi, yadi, yadi, yadi,
you'd know what it's just kidding.
I'm going to do it.
I've got penalty flags, and I'm throwing one on you right now.
I could go raw.
That looks like it's going to be a win.
We're going to call that Delaya Game 15 yards,
and three points if I'm feeling saucy.
Alex, I didn't mean to hit you with the flag.
You would just happen to me.
I was just assaulted.
Because saucy, I'm here for the gold.
OK, I'm going to say it is the men's team of Smackdown
with no less than three outside participant shenanigans.
Doc.
Triple H's ego is going to get the better of him,
so he's going to win.
He'll be the last one standing.
Oh.
I'm sure such a ruthless man.
You show your green every OK.
By the way, we do have a tweet from page 36 minutes ago.
Good luck to all the bad ass ladies
at Survivor Series tonight.
Slay Queens.
Andy who?
I'm going with Smackdown, and there's
going to some angle working with Triple H.
And speaking of angle, Kurt Angle.
All right.
It's going to be something with that whole ordeal with Stephanie
attempts to fire him.
OK, Andrew.
I just want to say we're all just because they
have the lesser of my men.
OK.
Russ, I'm going to bring with Stephen
and say Smackdown and Bobby Rougat's pin.
All right, Greg.
It's pin.
It's the pin.
It's the pin, yeah.
Came wrong.
Anybody gets a pin?
I'll say Triple H.
OK.
Jen?
I already win.
It's Smackdown.
No, because oh, yeah, because Greg started, did he?
Yeah.
I'm really tired.
OK, so here's my thing.
Here's my thing.
Here's my thing.
I'm running.
Here we go.
Raw will win this, because here's what's going to happen.
The turn that costs Smackdown the match
does not come by from anyone involved in the match.
The shenanigans that cost Smackdown the match
come from Daniel Bryan.
Yes, yes.
That starts this whole angle between him and Shane
that starts the power struggle.
Because now everybody's going to be happy on Raw again
so we can get Triple H, can go back and do whatever he does.
Work with NXT.
The focus now becomes on Smackdown.
So the women will be Smackdown winning.
The men will be Raw.
So why is Cena there?
Because he's as a paycheck to earn.
Because somebody needs to hit Braun.
He's the Triple H's there.
Yeah, he's the balance of Triple H.
Really, more than anything.
You're absolutely right.
All right.
So there's my HSO.
Now, as the card stands, grade the card.
Let me see if Cena even gave me a grade or not.
If he has it, I'll just text him later.
Going back, going back, going back.
He did not give me a, let me just text him right now.
He has not given me a grade, Jen.
Because party scroll isn't there, I have to give it a C.
I'll say C plus, all right.
I will agree with Don.
Don.
C plus B minus.
All right.
As a shocker, I'm giving this an A.
Really?
Wow.
Is that just for shock value?
Do you have anything behind that?
I think that this is the first time that you're going to have equally talented wrestlers
going at each other and they're going to make a grade.
Well, you know what?
Your tag team partner just replied.
You're such an amateur.
Your tag team's partner has made his statement, okay?
Steven says A minus.
So you guys are right in line with each other.
We are in A.
Wonderful.
Andrew.
Do we?
No.
It's a B plus.
We're reasons you say, but mainly because there's so much behind it, there's so much
to get a big push.
Okay.
A.
Blue plus.
And finally, survivor series is back.
There's more than one person going.
All right.
Russell.
A plus.
Wow.
That's big numbers right there.
We know it won't be that.
Great.
Go ahead.
I'm going to go with A plus too.
I am going to say, I'm going to say you kind of sold me on some here, LA.
You did kind of sell me here, but I'm not going that high.
I'm going to say B plus just because I think this Lesnar AJ match is going to be a mess
and it won't be AJ's fault.
These two, it's just, this is going to be a really tough sell for me just because of
the no pun intended, the style difference between them, that match is going to be, but
at least you'd have brawler versus brawler.
This is, this could be a train wreck and it worries me for AJ because AJ's built so
much momentum, but I can't go higher than a B plus right now.
But there is also the possibility that because they have such different styles and AJ
can work with me.
I'm not saying the possibility isn't there.
I'm just saying that keeps it from breaking the A minus ceiling.
What if you get, this is off screen, what if you get the porch and AJ style that plays
on Rick Flair's beat up the whole time?
I don't care if Sting shows up, it's still not going to be a great match and it's not
going to be.
Joe and Lesnar was good.
Yeah.
Well, I would love to see Joe get involved.
That would be amazing, but you've got, there's a lot, I will say there's a lot of room
for shenanigans tonight because remember, this is the one night of year.
I'm sorry.
All right.
This, this pay-per-view is starting right now, so go watch it on the, just like last time
was number three of three pay-per-views in how many weeks?
No, we've had, we've had three weeks off and then we have another two weeks off because
the next pay-per-view will be the Sunday before Christmas Eve, which will be clash of champions,
which is when you should be doing champion on champion matches to begin with, but that's
a different issue.
All right.
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