Special Edition WWE Survivor Series 2014
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It is the 23rd of November in the year of our Lord 2014.
The clubhouse podcast is live on the air season 5, episode 17, chronologically number 276.
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My name is Rob and I do sound a little bit fraudy tonight, I've been fighting off whatever's
been going around.
I think it's just either allergies or sinuses or both with dog on it, the show will go
on and we're still here for the empire.
Joining me across the desk is he tends to do each and every week is a man who beard
witness to greatness last night.
He is chat.
Welcome to the show sir.
I think it might have something to do with the fact that we have schizophrenic weather
in this town.
That's probably part of it.
30 degrees one day and 70 the next so we'll tell you it's wreaking havoc on my little
wild weather center in the living room.
The reception in two o'clock it said it was 107 outside, I don't think that's probably
right.
No, it's warm but that's not that one.
What you're hearing in the background is the theme song for WWE Survivor Series, which
takes place in just under an hour, it is from the new Nickelback album, no fix to dress
it is called Edge of a Revolution and yes there were a couple of S bombs in the background
that we apologize for that but I couldn't get a clean version of it.
Every now and then you'll hear a song from them that really reminds you that they did
used to be able to cover band.
This would be one of them.
This is the only track in the whole album is labeled explicit.
It's like really and they would use this as their themes but I mean if you look at the
lyrics for Edge of a Revolution that kind of ties into Survivor Series.
We're talking about Survivor Series because it is time for our official Survivor Series
pre-show that we've done for so many many many of these now.
Our first one was Summer Slay in 2010 and we watched it just outside the studio.
We are back in the nurturing bosom of the mothership as a local sports station like
to say as we are getting ready we've got some members of the Empire that have come to
hang out with us and watch Survivor Series but basically here's what we're going to do.
We're going to talk some headlines.
We're going to talk a week that was in our sport.
We're going to run the card for you and of course we're going to grade the card because
that's what we do.
So listen to the song for just a minute.
I haven't heard the whole album.
I've just heard this track but I like it.
And it sounds like it's begging to be the theme song for RAW.
They need to bring Nickelback.
That would be great if you used the song.
So.
All right, let's get to corrections from last week's episode.
I listened back and I didn't hear anything unless you did, sir.
And you've got a pretty discerning year.
So I'll defer to you.
Okay.
I mean, I mean, people that want to know that I really truly do listen back to every episode.
Usually it's at least Tuesday because I always take the day after we record anything
just away just so that I can kind of cleanse the palate a little bit before I listen
back because I don't think I'll be able to hear as much if I listen right straight back
to it.
Uh-huh.
But, uh, it's not a clean to me.
Okay.
Let's take a breath.
I'm going to bring my blood pressure down just a little bit because we're not even
very in the lead.
Really?
We're going straight into this.
So.
Uh, Friday or yesterday, I don't remember which one.
I'm just Friday.
Yeah, because I was going to grab dinner from the greatness of most.
Once I was perusing Facebook during the day for some reason and I came across a story
from SEC scoops for some reason, like that's like it's such an unusual thing.
I don't Facebook as much as I used to.
And I was like, SEC scoops, a very very reputable website.
Okay.
I'll read it.
I'll take it with a green salt.
Then four one one reports it.
Then we find out PWI's reporting it.
You need three for conspiracy, sir.
Right?
Allegedly, tonight will be the biggest night in professional wrestling history.
Because multiple outlets are reporting this.
And I'm not talking about Metallica taking off from Ferguson to go to Survivor Series
in St. Louis.
Allegedly, we're getting sting tonight.
They're not saying what the capacity of it is, they're keeping tight lip on this.
All we know is the rumors that have been out there.
And Vince has been being very cryptic in his tweets about being this being the biggest
night in Survivor Series if not WWE history.
We have been led down this path so many times.
I want to believe that it's going to happen, but I wanted to believe it's going to happen
every time they've teased it.
Just check your foundation to make sure it's intact.
Because if it, if and when it happens, even with about 50% of a voice, I'm still going
to scream like a drug.
It's gone.
Now, we should probably should have put some spoiler alerts down then if you were
spoiling it for a were sorry.
There's a couple more that we're going to do right now too.
So you're probably going to view it if you want to be spoiler free, mute your stuff
for about the next two minutes in three, two, one.
Okay, so there's a couple other people that are actually in town as well.
Here's one of them.
Which makes sense.
He's from St. Louis, but he's filming, but he's filming the condemned to an Arizona
right now.
He flew into St. Louis last night.
And I even have it on my notes from RAW.
I still think that he gets involved.
So if and when it happens, I remain the smartest man alive.
Because I've been saying it for two weeks.
But what intrigues me more is somebody that flew into St. Louis Jesterbeck.
This I am good with.
Now Roman is being advertised for TLC.
But he's in St. Louis.
Got a set of ups somehow, I mean.
This I mean, I understand that you're doing for new subscribers.
You're giving them no Vemper for free, including Survivor Series tonight.
And it's getting close to the end of the month so you don't want people to cancel those
subscriptions.
This is one way to do it.
Take everything you were going to do for the rumble and go ahead and unload the gun now.
This is how you book it.
If for no other reason you've got time to re-stock the gun.
Because you can still do a bunch of stuff at the rumble to set up WrestleMania 2.
But I think this is a good idea.
I think all three of these are a good idea because it's WWE recognizing you know what,
we really need to up our game a little bit.
You really do.
I'm trying to stay calm.
Trying to stay calm.
Trying to stay calm.
I don't want to bury another story about it.
So let's go from an absolute high to an absolute low shall we?
Tomorrow night on Raw.
Last week we had Grumpy Cat and we're going to talk about that here in a minute.
Tomorrow night on Raw.
Larry the cable guy.
And I thought to myself, why do we need Larry the cable guy on Raw?
And then I realize he's promoting this jingle all the way to which Coastar sent to you
No Morella.
Well, and you're also talking about the target demographic here.
So.
This is a fair point.
Get it done, WWE.
Do you?
No.
Not.
Help.
Big.
No.
That's all I'm saying.
Not.
Help.
Big.
This is a seat.
Big seat.
Yes, sir.
It is.
It's the best I could come up with.
And I do want to say congratulations to WWE.
Although a little confused.
December 15th is what.
What.
What USA is calling WWE week.
It's okay with that.
You know, recognizing one of the shows that really carries a lot of the weight for your network.
In between reruns of NCIS and original programming that's not working.
They're going to be raw on Monday.
They're going to be SmackDown live on Tuesday, which they've done a couple times before on USA.
And then I think they did this last year too.
And then Wednesday they're going to show tribute from the troops.
Okay.
Now SmackDown will still air in this regular time slot on sci-fi that Friday.
Maybe to the troops or Aaron USA on December 27th.
But it's a week.
What happened at the other two days.
899.
That's a problem.
I do.
Every month.
It's a it's a bait.
So I don't know what's going on there.
But that's what's going to happen.
I mean, hey, if I can watch it, I can go exactly what's going on there.
If I can, you know, watch SmackDown on Tuesday.
So we don't have to watch it on Friday.
I'm good.
You know, it's not like I'm going to have any other programming
wrestling lies to talk about for another month and a half.
But we'll talk about that in a minute.
That is, that is, that is, quote unquote W L at its finest.
You're in line.
All right.
Let's talk a little bit about raw show me.
I have decided that decimated is the new vintage.
I swear to you, they said that word about 140 times Monday night.
It was insane.
Mostly by Cole, I'm assuming.
Cole and JBL.
And I think even Triple H said it a couple of times.
JBL really seems to be a sheep when it comes to me with JBL.
For me, it just seems like he's trying too hard.
And he's always playing off with somebody else.
Relax a little bit.
He can't, he can't lead his way into a, into a bit.
He's always going to be led into it, it seems.
And speaking of people at the WWE announced say,
Well, I was, I got almost caught up on 30 for 30 today.
I was watching the one I'm Brian Bosworth.
I'm sorry.
JR heavily involved in that deal.
Really?
Yes, without the glasses and without the hat.
And it was really weird for me to see.
Wow.
And remember how deeply he's entrenched at Oklahoma?
I keep forgetting that that kid became a local home.
That makes sense, then.
Very good documentary.
I strongly suggest you check that one, I'm sorry.
It's really, really good.
Did we go into the coolest ice phase?
No, that was the vanilla ice phase.
No, it was so cold.
It was so cold.
I couldn't remember what a stupid movie was.
As well as redemption road in 2012.
But it's really, it was that math.
Yes, he was.
Not revolutionary road to different movies.
Right.
Maybe thinking redemption road.
But no, I, I strongly suggest that was really, really good.
You kind of see, they really tell the story well.
It's all I'm saying.
See, the utter explosion up and overhyped athlete.
Will you have a new intercontinental champion?
Oh, joy.
His name is Luke Harper.
Yeah.
We've just decided we're going to go ahead and put the icy belt on this guy.
Which I was like, your cat has better Mike skills in this guy.
But he's on team authority, so he can almost just have somebody talk for him.
Oh, what?
Just saying.
If you're, if you're going to carry a belt, you need to be able to hold your own and stick.
I don't care what belt it is.
You, you need to be able to cut a problem.
No, no, I agree with you.
Cole.
Michael Cole.
Oh, no, what now?
Michael Cole.
Michael Cole.
Grumpy the cat.
Really?
Grumpy the cat.
Oh, he called him Grumpy the cat.
Grumpy the spooky the bear.
When the game back from break, JB, I'll get him grief for it.
His name isn't Grumpy.
He's just a Grumpy cat.
And then it was, I love him.
They're like, no, it's a her.
Can we do some research on who the guest star is going to be for the love of all things
Good and holy, even if it's an internet meme?
Now, don't get me wrong.
I do love me some Grumpy cat.
I'm a huge fan.
I'm so over it.
But I just, that was two worlds that didn't need to collide from no.
But they do that a lot.
I'm still trying to wash the stains from my eyes after the,
Hoda caught me.
Oh, Kathy Lee thing.
Granted.
The cause right there.
I'm still trying to wash my eyes that was at Neil Armstrong.
What was on that show?
Years ago?
No.
No, no, no.
Oh gosh.
Buzz Aldrin.
Yes.
The Buzz Aldrin to buckle.
I'm still trying to cleanse my brain of that.
And I'm starting to wonder if it's fan-dango in the bunny suit.
Now, I did read that on Main Event with Sami Zayn,
which I think that would be a really good angle.
Because I like him a lot.
But the way that the bunny's moving, I was wondering if it was fan-dango.
And you're going to love this, sir.
Somehow I doubted.
No, no, you will.
So, they had a deal coming up after Raw.
And I can't remember what they were showing.
I'm not kidding you.
I re-wound this just to make sure I heard it right.
From Michael Cole, from Michael Cole.
And I quote.
After Raw, the action doesn't start.
Never has even more right about anything.
In the history of ever.
I swear to you that happened.
I'm in my living room.
Excuse me?
Where's my room?
No, he said that, said it.
What a dope.
It's like dude, what the brain worked before the mouth dies.
I mean, they were flubbing all over creation Monday night.
Like more than normal.
I thought I was like, I don't know.
How could I be the only one that caught that?
You were waiting for the rim shot after that, I'm sure.
I was waiting for the great Han shot, as I was waiting for it.
Did I tell you you liked that?
That is awesome.
Where is it?
I need to get it.
Let's get ready for media critics.
I just, I could not believe it.
That was like, I heard you kidding me.
I was actually waiting for this right here.
There you go.
I should have been more prepared for that.
I apologize.
Well, I kind of sprung that.
And Eric Rowan on a face turn.
Didn't see that coming.
But I guess if you're going to have Luke Harper stay healed,
you're going to have to have somebody to feud with.
And then they tease this Cesaro face turn, which is kind of funny.
Because team scene, it was revealing all the remaining members that he had with him.
And Cesaro came down and he stood next to scene, and then he looked at scene,
and then when he stood with the authority, they all laughed.
That was kind of funny.
And I still think Orton shows up.
I just do.
And I think he shows up to cost him authority.
He's tired of being the lackey, so to speak.
Well, never would happen to him.
I'm going to keep him remember.
I had Seth Rollins curb stomping.
That authority did.
More than all the more.
Yeah, all the more reason.
That was because they had the right amount.
So you could go do the condemned to.
Because there were so many unanswered questions from the stone killed.
You've also inversion.
Who we're going to talk about a little bit here.
Come on.
I know I've been holding my breath waiting for a follow up.
Does that why he looks so blue when you got here?
Yeah.
Just making sure.
Okay.
We're probably going to spend more time talking about TNA than we normally do tonight.
But there's a good reason.
We've talked about since Hell in a Cell.
That TNA only had enough footage to get them through this past Wednesday.
Which they did.
And there had been rumors going around.
The negotiations with Spike were still going on.
There were other networks involved.
Now it's official they announced on Wednesday that TNA wrestling starting in January will be
moving to a channel called Destination America.
And shall I believe you had some details on that for us?
Well, it is a subsidiary.
I guess you could say it would be the best way to describe it of the discovery channel.
It's called a sister station.
It's gone through several iterations.
It was the green channel.
Home and leisure.
It's it's changed faces about 50 times.
And from what I was reading on forums.
In some markets for the longest time.
All they did was just play old discovery channel reruns.
Can I tell you one original program they have on that?
Because I saw it on the super last week.
Hill Billy Blood.
Is the name of it.
Well, at least.
I'm just telling you.
We've got a filming location for all the break.
Why it spots now.
But what this does for them.
Destination America is going to give them a lot more roped and Spike ever did.
Because they're going to let them air multiple programs.
Like they can air the one night only things.
They may be getting away from paper view altogether.
Because one night only was a paper view thing that they were selling on paper view.
The problem was.
They've been they take it like six months ago.
They did like all their one night only for the whole year in like a week.
Which was odd to me.
Because there's no continuity there.
I'm just saying.
But also, I mean, it does.
I don't want that to shit.
No wonder go back here.
Thank you.
It's going to air probably in mid January.
I believe January 15th was thrown out.
There's a Monday.
But because they don't have an official night.
Well, it's a Thursday.
Did your 15th is a Thursday?
December 15th is a Monday.
I just don't know what they're going to do.
But they're talking about their rebooting everything.
Redo and the logo rebranding the whole night.
Sir, you don't know what they're going to do.
You are probably in the majority.
That's fair point.
I don't think they know what they're going to do.
If you do want it.
If you were yearning for their Thanksgiving special that will be airing on YouTube.
Come on today.
I did read that today.
So there's that.
And now let's get back into about the other song we were playing.
Apparently Alberto Del Rio was telling people that he's going to be working for both
Lucha Underground, which is what's airing on the Alray Network.
Rubber Rodriguez deals.
Excuse me.
Antienne.
He did show up at Tommy Dreamer's House of Hardcore show this past weekend.
With Ricardo Rodriguez.
I don't know.
Is this guy a game changer?
No.
I think his steam ran out about a year and a half ago.
That's just me.
The guy did nothing for me as far as my problem was.
He was a decent heal.
But his face run didn't last long enough before they turned in heal again.
No.
And I think that hurt him.
His charisma just kind of evaporated.
He wasn't a heavy duty player anymore.
I like the Mizz.
It's like they're kind of fizzled out.
I know they're trying really hard to work Mizz back up again.
But I think he might have the personality that can help push that.
But Del Rio's character is so one-dimensional to me that there's really not a lot you can do with it.
I mean, he had to evolve the character.
And they never did.
They never wanted to.
If anything, they devolved him.
Yeah.
Although Ricardo Rodriguez showed up in the beat of 1983.
He was great.
It didn't see to me.
He was the one-fasten of that relationship that remained kind of entertaining and interesting.
Whereas Del Rio just kind of like, okay, he's got another car.
And then they stopped doing that.
Oh, that was not the weird part.
They were pitch these as he's his cars.
And every car he drives out in has that like covering on the seat.
So he's always wet all over it.
That's like sell the bit.
Yeah, sell the bit.
That's not exactly maintaining any kind of an illusion.
Vince rented a Corvette just they could fill it with cement and blow it up.
Really?
You can't even take the wrapper off the freaking cushion.
Um, really only one note from impact.
And that is that Terran Terrell is your new knockouts champion after a very good triple threat match.
I wouldn't say great.
But better than anything the WWE divas are throwing out there.
Granted that bar is really low.
But it was a good match.
But it's kind of weird.
And I think I think they were expecting that episode to air later.
Because when, you know, MVP goes off of this rampage and angle.
Admonishism and says, you know, it is the holiday season.
Like literally.
Yeah.
So we won't have any real impact notes for about six weeks or so.
Probably closer to eight.
Well, I did tell you that I caught an episode of amazing race.
Yes, you did.
Which thing?
Well.
If that's what Brooke is really like in real life.
And see, I didn't.
I follow her on Facebook.
And I didn't get the vibe that she got.
But then again, there's a difference between what you post on Facebook and the way you're showing around you tell them.
She, she is a wretched individual on that show.
How so?
Could you never really give me an example?
She's just really, really caddy.
And she's, she's really negative.
Oh, I hate them.
And all they suck.
And you know, it's just,
And how was Robbie E in contrast to that?
He was just kind of like, whatever.
He was just kind of rolling with it.
Like, you could definitely tell who's, who's running the show in that relationship.
And I'm not sure that they're still together.
Because some of the pictures she's been posting on Facebook lately.
Haven't been with him.
Good for him.
Because I don't know if I'd want to hit my wagon or that.
That's what she's liking in real life.
No.
Thank you.
Haven't enough crazy in my life.
Yeah.
But the other two members of extreme expose that she was with.
Do you remember them?
No.
It was her Kelly Kelly and Leila.
Really?
So she's probably doing the best of the three.
And apparently speaking of Leila, she won't know.
She's no longer a fundango's dance partner.
She's changed partners again.
And we're going to talk about that here in a minute.
So there's this.
Oh, dear Lord.
Strong rumors right now.
Well, that Dana White is neither confirming or denying.
Is that Lesnar wants to go back to UFC?
Good.
Let him.
Let him.
Let him.
Do you know why it says?
That he always knew that Lesnar was going to want to come back.
When his health was back up to it.
I just don't know that he'll ever be the fighter he was.
But if you want to go, go.
Don't let the door hit you.
Just drop the belt on your way out there.
Don't walk away, man.
Just walk away.
Just leave.
I don't know.
Why do everybody got so excited about him coming back in the first place.
Other than he was named recognition because he's got zero personality.
Zero skill in the ring as a wrestler.
Sorry.
You know, you may be able to kill people with your bare hands.
But you cannot go in a wrestling ring.
You just can't.
And then you put the belt on him and do nothing.
Do nothing.
Done one paper of you since.
Second paper of you in a row and your champion is not on it.
That's that's inexcusable.
That absolutely inexcusable.
Please go away.
Nobody will miss you.
And McFarland toys announced this this week.
They're next statue that they're going to be doing.
Because I know they're Undertaker.
One was.
They did another.
Didn't they do Sean?
I know.
I want to say they did a ramp.
Like Undertaker one.
It was savage.
It was savage.
And so Austin's your next one.
Let me look this up.
Have you seen it?
I just saw that they've announced.
I don't know that they have a mock-up yet for it.
But you know anything about McFarland toys.
They do amazing work.
So it's not going to be.
Because Undertaker won't have came with like lights and stuff.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
That was pretty neat.
And it had a piece of the ring apron from me.
And when he and Kane had the inferno match if I'm not mistaken.
I wanted this.
I wanted that thing real bad.
And savages came with a piece of the ring apron from one of his matches too.
I can watch what I was.
I think it might have even come with a point of peace of the clothing.
He was really.
Yeah.
Really nothing to talk about from SmackDown this week.
SmackDown was pretty bad.
And I like I even tried to watch to find something to take notes on.
And no.
Not so much.
So.
Which means it's time for us to go ahead and run the card.
Now this is not in any specific order.
It's just what I consider to be the order of importance in this card.
We have a return tonight.
Returning to WWE.
Fondongo.
And not the official factor of this show.
With his new dance partner, Rossa Mendez.
Because we can't seem to figure out what we're doing with her.
Do you see it?
Uh huh.
Is there a mock-up?
Uh huh.
Show it to me.
Wow.
Hang on.
Oh wow.
That's impressive.
Yeah.
It's him standing on the turnbook.
Both arms raised in the air with a skull behind him.
And the base says awesome 360 does the say what it's coming with.
Uh there is a little piece of blue claw.
The attached to it.
So I'm assuming it is the ring apron of some form.
Yeah.
Uh.
Let's see.
Awesome.
Uh.
I didn't turn it.
Okay.
As an added bonus and to celebrate this historic match between Austin and the Rock,
an authentic piece of a ring skirt for WrestleMania 770 included with each statue.
Which is recently he did a podcast where he did a running commentary on that match.
And it retails at 295 bucks.
He's got that on me.
And it's available to Maro.
Okay.
Also he did a commentary track for his match with Brad Harder.
I'm assuming a 13.
I haven't been able to listen to either one yet because I haven't been able to watch the matches.
Trying to scroll down.
Uh.
Yeah.
Uh.
For the Austin super fans out there.
50 additional statues will be available on the McFarlane Toys online store.
Signed by Austin himself.
Wow.
Uh.
Those will retail at 395.
Again.
Got that on me.
But fun.
Don't go returns tonight with Rosa Mendez.
Versus.
We don't know.
I'm taking the we don't know.
Just me.
I don't know.
I love that guy.
I don't know.
I love that guy.
Also in singles competitions and nights.
Chad's new favorite wrestler.
I'm sorry.
Dean Ambrose.
Taking on Bray Wyatt.
Now I wouldn't go that far.
I'm not saying he's my favorite wrestler.
He's come a long way.
I dig.
I dig the dude now.
I used to hate him back when he was with the shield.
I really dig him now.
As much as I don't want Bray Wyatt to win this.
I think he does.
Um.
Because that that angle is just getting started.
And I don't really like storyline.
But it keeps Dean Ambrose involved in some way.
So I'm going to say Bray Wyatt.
Sir.
And the storyline just got started, you say?
Oh yeah.
Well, there's.
There here you're always in that dilemma of who you'd like to see when versus who you think is.
That's what I'm saying.
I like to see.
Ambrose win.
But I think Wyatt wins because you're just getting this angle.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They got to let the angle build.
Unless there is no clear cut winner.
It's if it's there's just.
Shenanigans and there's no decision or whatever.
Just qualification or whatever.
With nothing on the line.
I don't see shenanigans in a paper view.
With the Wyatt's involved with Bray involved.
But it's only him.
Well, that's right.
He doesn't have his lackeys.
Really.
Unless they bring in the ascension tonight.
This is true.
Diva's title on the line.
That doesn't work really well.
I want to have a cold.
AJ Lee versus Nikki Bell.
There were rumors earlier in the week that if AJ dropped the title tonight,
it was an indication she was leaving WWE.
Later in the week news reports are coming out.
No.
She's not leaving WWE.
She's got a good contract.
She's fine.
This doesn't happen.
She does not.
She doesn't.
Drop this title.
No.
And I'll tell you why.
Because this Bella angle is up.
The 30 days is up.
Oh.
Oh.
Okay.
Okay.
Technically.
It's probably looking a calendar here.
Hold on.
It's been since the last pay for a few.
Basically.
So.
Um.
And that was what five weeks ago.
Say 31.
30.
29.
28.
27.
This is a 26th of last month.
So technically it would be up on SmackDown this week.
Ah.
Okay.
Well.
But I think this is where it maybe starts.
Where she costs Nikki the match.
Just kind of like a oops.
Yeah.
Oh my bad.
I'm sorry.
Yeah.
I'll go.
I just don't think AJ's going to drop it.
And I don't think she drops it to Nikki Bella.
It just doesn't know.
No.
We have a fatal four way for the tag team titles.
Elimination style.
Your current champions.
Golden start us by the way.
Start us saying he's going to have a new look tonight.
Really?
That's what he said.
I'm Twitter today.
Gold doesn't start us versus the Usos versus Losimata Doris versus the Miz and Damian Miz now.
I'm going to put it out there.
Miz wins.
Oh god.
I hope not.
With the push she's on right now.
You don't really want to give him a single title just yet.
This happens.
Because you you have embraced this Damian Miz down.
I think it's hilarious.
I'm so done.
And when he went up.
Miz misses doing a bit with grumpy cat where he was trying to do a movie with grumpy cat.
And while Miz is talking to grumpy cat.
Miz now has like a stuffed grumpy cat that he's talking to.
Very funny.
Very funny.
But I think that's what happens.
Sir.
You're probably right.
If he really is being groomed for this new push.
I just don't think that that relationship lasts once he starts getting some.
Some gold around his waist.
But I think that having that power I think would be or having that title.
I think that could be the catalyst.
That's what I'm saying.
Yeah.
So if they're trying to groom him for another single's run.
I guess giving him gold around his waist.
And then telling Damian.
Look.
I don't need you.
I never really did.
Where he becomes the tag team champion.
Yeah.
I mean, I don't want to see it happen though.
I really don't want to see.
The dust brothers lose anything because I love them so much.
But I think they've had the titles long enough.
This will go around a little bit.
I can't see them going to either one of the other two.
Either the usils or the usils is almost a step backwards as much as I love the usils.
Putting the boats back on them.
You know just yet.
You didn't you stagnate that.
And low somatadoras.
No.
No.
Sorry.
Free mo and car.
Unico.
But you're not there yet.
You're not ready.
We actually have two different survivor series traditional matches.
Those are normally five on five tag team elimination.
But this first one is a four on four because it's all Davis.
So perfect time to go to the to the bathroom for your smoke break.
A Alicia Fox Emma Naomi in Natalia versus Paige Cameron Leyla in Summer Ray.
Only one person I don't really even want to see on this on that match is Natalia.
I like to see it come down to Natty and Paige and let them work a lot.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I keep I do the kind of like Paige.
Just don't like that she's a heal.
Well I mean you've got to have somebody to be the foil for AJ with all the face he that she gets.
Yeah.
I know she can turn on a dime.
It's a fair point.
And in what will be your main event no doubt in anybody's mind.
It is team scene versus team authority.
John Cena Dolph Ziggler the big show.
Eric Rowan and Ryback versus Seth Rollins.
Kane Mark Henry Rusev and Luke Harper.
Now if team scene wins.
The authorities no longer in charge.
The authority wins.
Everybody on's team scene.
But seen this fired.
So the authority is no longer in charge.
Who is?
That's called a setup.
You're welcome internet.
That was a set you just delivered the spike.
That's why I think this bad.
But yeah, but he's not booked for Raw or Smackdown this week.
But I think that's how you set this up.
I still think team Cena wins.
Because none of these people have big projects in the works I wouldn't.
Not that I'm aware of.
But I think team Cena wins.
Because of shenanigans with Orton.
And I think that if Rains is there he'll get involved too.
Yeah.
But while that caught well.
It's no DQ.
Okay.
So by knowledge.
Survivor Series is no DQ match.
Okay.
But I still think team Cena wins.
Because if team Cena loses then it's just the same thing we've seen for a year and a half now.
Oh, and God knows the WWE would never do that to us.
It's a fair point.
Prediction, sir.
I think your theory has a lot of weight to it.
I don't know how much shenanigans involvement we can depend on.
I don't know if we get involvement from Randy and Roman.
Although it would make for a great finish.
It would definitely make for a great finish.
But I don't know if they're willing to give us that much.
I'm almost jealous of the people in San Luis tonight.
Besides this thing.
This looks like a solid card.
Well, it's your jealous of the potential of what could happen.
Okay.
That's a fair point.
That is a fair point.
I don't know.
At the end of the night we'll see how jealous you really are.
Yeah, I won't be too jealous because I'll be surrounded by some close friends.
And we'll all get to see you melt down completely if what happens happens.
What you hope at?
And we should be having an appearance by the Justin Timberlake of the show.
God knows.
I know she was having date day with her boyfriend because with the Cowboys playing tonight he will be completely focused on that.
Well, I just heard the door opening close so that might have been heard.
Oh, so there's quite a few people that hadn't arrived yet.
Alright, so that's the entire card for Survivor Series.
The final major of the year as we are 21 minutes away from WWE Survivor Series.
The 20th Survivor Series.
It's not the 20th anniversary.
It's the 20th Survivor Series.
That's right.
They can't make a big deal about this one.
You know, this is when they should make a big deal.
Oh, no, this is the 25th.
I'm sorry.
This is the 25th Survivor Series.
They should be, they should really shouldn't make a bigger deal about it.
God knows they did with the, with Mania and didn't they also with the,
They mentioned it with the rumble.
Yeah, they made a big deal about it.
The Mania.
Yeah, that's well documented on this show.
Uh-huh.
Give me started on that.
But it's, it's one of those things I remember the first one.
I remember the original Survivor Series.
The Thanksgiving Day tradition.
I think I had it on VHS.
I think I bought it from Blockbuster video a long time.
Really.
Wow.
And it had like the cover.
Look like it was drawn by bullet.
Oh, really?
Oh, it was phenomenal.
So great.
The cards are as a stance.
See minus.
See minus.
We put it in the bar car.
Well, if we're no with a reason because one of our traditional Survivor Series matches.
One of our two is Adiva's match.
And we need to have more traditional Survivor Series matches.
Diary Survivor Series.
I agree with you there.
A loan.
Docks at a full letter grade in my opinion.
I will not debate you on that.
You've got two far away from the reason that this paper view exists.
Tell that happens.
It will continue to get see minuses unless they start booking at least three, preferably
four traditional matches.
Traditional Survivor Series.
I'd be okay with two.
Well, that's what you've got.
But I'm talking about two men's matches.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Because the WWE paper view in general has evolved so much.
That I think if you did that many Survivor Series matches, it might water it down.
But that's why it was made in the first place.
I agree.
But the audience has evolved.
It's just like saying that the rumble should be the only thing at the rumble.
No.
You're not to have other things involved.
No.
But, you know, that's to me that was the drawing power of that night.
The only possible thing for me that that would work for is King of the Ring.
Because King of the Ring there would be so many different matches that you could do.
To have an entire paper view.
Be just the gimmick matches.
I think you watered down.
Oh, just all I know is that that one of the biggest markout moments I ever had involving
the Undertaker was a Survivor Series promo.
You know what I'm talking about?
Oh, yeah.
When they were going up against the foreign fanatics and he opened up his trench coat.
And it had the American flag sewn in the lining.
I'm going to say C plus just to give it room to grow.
Because I think it'll be above average.
But I'm not willing to hang the mission accomplished banner yet.
Well, I mean, what do you see as the potential match of the night?
Match of the night right now.
The tag match.
The tag match or Ambrose.
Versus prey.
Those two can work.
Oh, yeah.
Those two can work.
And by the way, if you are a subscriber, just don't called podcast.
Bray Wyatt this week.
Yeah, I'll be missing that.
No, but I don't think it's him in character.
I mean, I'm interested to hear this guy's story.
I mean, your dad's microtundo.
Your brothers, boat Dallas.
Your uncles are Barry and Kendall Windom.
I'm just saying.
A lot of hair.
Kitchen.
That's why I'm ready to hear this guy's story.
It's like the Von Erick's in the major.
Chad is saying C minus I'm saying C plus.
Of course, you'll get our final grades for this next week on the show.
If actually, it'll probably be two weeks.
You're going to be out of pocket next week.
Yeah.
Not sure if we're about 50, 50 on doing a show next week.
Chad's going to be out of pocket.
It's the holiday weekend.
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Looks darker.
She just washed it and brushed it out.
Okay.
I don't want to just take it out.
It looks like maybe she colored a little darker than normal.
Okay.
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