The Clubhouse Podcast

Special Edition WWE Payback 2017

May 1, 2017 Season 7, Episode 42

The Clubhouse Podcast provides an unofficial pre-show for WWE Payback 2017 on April 30, with hosts Rob, LA, Doc, and Don discussing WrestleMania grades, storyline updates from Raw and SmackDown, and predictions for the Payback card including matches featuring Roman Reigns vs. Braun Strowman, Seth Rollins vs. Samoa Joe, and the Hardy Boyz defending their tag titles.

About this episode

Key takeaways

  • The Hardy Boyz returned to WWE at WrestleMania after The Young Bucks kept their arrival secret; they had an ROH Tag Team title match the night before, then drove to Orlando within hours
  • JR released his autobiography 'Slobber Knocker: My Life in Wrestling' and is no longer with WWE, citing his age and physical condition prevent him from maintaining a full-time schedule
  • Asuka has surpassed Goldberg's undefeated streak, now standing at 163-0 in her WWE and NXT career
  • The hosts debate multiple title defenses: Hardy Boyz retaining tag titles, Bailey retaining Raw Women's Championship with potential Sasha Banks involvement, and uncertainty around the Cruiserweight and other matches

Q&A

Why was the Bray Wyatt vs. Randy Orton match removed from title contention?

Gender stole the title, so it is no longer for the belt and is billed as a house of horrors match

How did The Young Bucks keep the Hardy Boyz return secret?

Only The Young Bucks, Vince McMahon, and the Hardies knew in advance; Vince called and told the Bucks they were terrific but to take care of the Hardies

What milestone did Randy Orton reach this past Tuesday?

It was the 15-year anniversary of his WWE debut

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It is 701 on the East Coast. It is 401 on the West Coast. It is the 30th of April in the year of our Lord 2017, season 7 episode 42, 392 times this voice has welcomed you to the clubhouse podcast live every Sunday night, 70s turn 4 Pacific, your one-stop shop for all things pop culture.

But tonight we're going to be wrestling intensive because it is the official unofficial pre-show for WWE payback. Welcome. My name is Rob.

I am the executive producer of the clubhouse podcast and it is kind of nice to be back in the studio. It is our first studio show since WrestleMania, because we have been on the road lots of you have been keeping up on your favorite podcast app. If you listen live during those shows, we are just glad you are here and glad you are listening.

It has been a crazy ride the last month and it is not stopping anytime soon. But since this is an official unofficial WWE pre-show, that means I am not alone in the room. Chad is otherwise disposed of seating but he has sent me his picks.

But sitting in Chad's chair tonight is a man who is actually taking his hat off. It is a little weird. What a be honest.

L.A. is here. Welcome sir.

Yo yo yo. It is me. Hey yo.

Let's go on. Good people. As we go around clockwise around the room, it is the official fact checker of the show.

And a man that is happy we are doing a show where he gets to sit down for the whole thing. You may know him as fondongo but his mom and name and taunt for it. I am going to call him down for it.

I think the straight-dance tonight. We have only come out of one channel again. Yeah.

Try the other one. Let's try that out. That is a little better.

Yeah, the straight-dance tonight I think. Really? The straight-dance.

Oh yeah, the celebrity straight. What you know, we got more than enough. And all the way around the room, we welcome back to the show a man that has musically been very, very busy as of late out there rocking in the free world.

He is docked. Welcome back sir. I love my leapsions.

Let's clap. There we go. That might take it to Ramstein.

That is in June, right? June 29th. June 29th.

Three days, three days, four days for my birthday. Some of my fans. Three days.

I wonder what all that means. I don't have to ask you about that one day. I know we are wrestling intensive but bomb city, Nashville, one, two awards.

Did they really congratulate you to our friends from bomb city? They want a best narrative feature in grand jury prize for best actor. That's awesome.

And they got a 4.85 out of 5 average on the screenings from audience. Awesome. We're so proud of those guys.

Again, we are championing that film to get wider distribution. And we just, if you listen to last week's first ever spotlight show that we released to podcasting apps and problems over there. Oh, a little bit of Mike feeling.

Okay, it's all right. That's the guy deal with personally. But make sure you check out our very first spotlight show that we ever did on bomb city.

It is a podcast exclusive for last week. So check that out. You may want to just tighten up the right now.

That's a little bit that might help you. Okay. All right.

We'll see what it does. Maybe not. I need to, I need to tighten the deal on that.

All right. So let's talk about the Wrestlemania because we haven't had a chance to go over stats from Wrestlemania. Some points updates for you.

Bringing up the rear right now. Chad and Docker tied with 20 total. That's a 488 win percentage.

So everybody, at least even the lowest person's almost at 50 percent, at Wrestlemania, Chad went 9 and 6 and Doc went 5 and 10. So about Cleveland Brown. Well, I've been drinking a whole lot of that there.

Oh, yes, you had sir. Yes, yes, you had. Andrew has 21.

He went 5, 12. He's out of 5, 12 running percentage. He went 9 and 6 at Wrestlemania.

Steven's got 25. He's right in the middle of the pack. He's at his winning percentage is 61 percent.

He went 11 and 4 and he did get the bonus point for the hardies. As did Don. LAU are one up on Stephen with 26 of a 634 win percentage.

You went 11 and 4 Wrestlemania. Hey, man. I didn't need the bonus point.

I have one point ahead of you with 27. I have a 659 winning percentage. I went 9 and 6 at Wrestlemania.

But Don is now up to the bonus points helped him at Wrestlemania. He has a 70 707 winning percentage. You went 11 and 4 with the bonus point.

So you and LAU and Steven had the best records for Wrestlemania. Chad the cheat. You're off for that.

You're off for that. You're just too scared. So let's look back now.

I know it's been four weeks since Wrestlemania. Don, you before the show, you gave it a D. Where do you sit now?

D still. Yeah. Doc, you had it at a B.

Where do you have Wrestlemania now of what you remember of it? From what I remember the hearties were there. So they were there.

So B still stands at B. And we also remember the horrible service you got at Hooters and Skeet. And I'm just going to put it out there.

They get a D. But they screwed up every piece of that order. Every little bit.

But the lovely ladies had the one in Plano, which is where you went today. They get an A. Okay.

What lovely ladies and Plano get an A. I said for Wrestlemania's this, the only thing was the hearties. Besides that, what was there?

They're really great. It's really great. It's really great.

Yeah. I love it. Yeah.

Shane's starting the card was a little weird for me. LA, you had it at A. B.

Minus. What do you say now? I got to give it a solid B.

So you upgraded. Yeah. Okay.

Only because of the delete factor. But you know, that was about it. I had it at a B.

Minus. I think I'm going to stay to B. Minus.

I thought it was a good show. It was still entirely too long. I'm glad I took the next day off.

Because I mean, I can't even imagine this brother. Because this, this went, no, I actually had that as a plan day because I knew it was coming. No, you did a change until it's six months.

I can't. Like that went later than it did when it was here last year. Yeah.

It was midnight Eastern when that paper view finished. I had to leave for last night because I knew it was a happy five hour paper. I wasn't going to stay for that.

And it wasn't even awesome. That's the hill. It wasn't like it was just riveting.

It was just a paper view. It's kind of like they're just like, well, it's WrestleMania. So we're just going to do it or we want.

It's, you know, I mean, if you're on the West Coast, that's fine because it was what seven o'clock when it ended. Eight o'clock. You can't.

They have to go. 11 here. So it's going to be nine o'clock there.

But still, I mean, that's still a decent hour. But for people on the East Coast, especially people that live there would have had to fight the traffic to get out of the citrus bowl or wherever they're calling it. Can't be world stadium.

I think it's what they call this week to get home. Or random traffic sucks as it is. Hey, no matter when you're out there.

Well, you're for that jury world. You can be like a jury. I feel for everybody on all coast because again, if you're spending your day on the West Coast watching that thing, you killed your afternoon.

Yes. It was what four o'clock West Coast when it started, which meant the pre-show started it to a clock in West Coast. So you're like getting out of church, grabbing some food and heading back to the house.

You can read it for us, mate. And you're there the whole day. What are you doing?

Fold and close. Oh, we've got to hear it for what? I imagine if we were on the West Coast.

Like, I'd have been like, I'm leaving church now. Everybody's the house right now. It actually answered the question.

Can you get too much wrestling? And that answer is yes. Yes, you can.

Yes, you can. I was glad that we had everybody over here and having a good time. I wish Steven and his crew could have made it, but we would have been jammed in here like some deans.

But I talked to him a little a couple days after and he said they had a great time. We had a great time. We always have a great time when we get together.

But Maine is just one of those things. And you add to the fact that Maine was right in the middle of the Dallas International Film Festival. So we had that going on.

And it was, they had the Payne Park Festival or no, the pit ball was the weekend before. Sorry guys, pit balls. Hey, to black people.

They're the same thing. Sacrifice. Key and ball.

Is that what you're saying? Yeah. Hey, Bob.

All right. So let's talk the week that was in our sport. This fall.

JR is releasing a book. Yes, he is. It is called Slobber Nucker.

My life in wrestling. Oh, they released it. There is the cover this week.

And they did talk a little bit. They did get the official cause of death of his wife was a traumatic brain injury. So we would definitely still send our best out to JR and his family.

And it just was just a terrible thing. And Boy, I'll tell you what though. He made it and he came up and he called the match.

He kept his word and God bless him for getting through it. I don't know how he did. But he was there for that undertaker match.

And he called the whole thing. It seemed like he had a good show. God bless you, sir.

To JR he says he is no longer with a company. Right. Because he's old.

That's basically he says he's old. He's banged up. I mean, and you know what?

I respect the fact that he said that. He's like, look, I can't keep up. No.

I'm too banged up and I'm too old. Because a lot, this is a business or a lot of guys. It's hard to know when to say when.

Yeah, and he's good doing the Andy, you know, here and there. But JR, he said he can't commit to a full-time schedule. Yeah, I did one mistake they did when they brought him in a WWE was not get that few was super crazy going.

Because those ECW matches with super crazy. Well, but then, but you see W, ECW plays a lot a big part of that too, because with those guys put themselves through, you know, those two had incredible. Yeah, they made it.

They didn't keep that rolling in WWE, which was a mistake with JR because you put them to an arena where it's talked about like England and won the wrestling in those. You put those in the WWE. But you know, they brought it.

They tried to water down everything ECW just because Vince wanted to stick it to the Molly that he did. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. So again, Vince got an interesting story about him coming up. I've only got one note between both shows and it comes from rock.

And it's real simple. One note, it is our Calisto and TJ Perkins sharing theme music now. What the heck was that?

That was quite odd and the Lucha did even go with it. Yeah. It was like they shoehorned the Lucha chance into it.

Just take it out. Just like this. Are they going to be a tag team?

And what's with the new costume? Like it was like it looked like it was halfway down and then finished with shoe polish. Like what's going on here?

Since we're talking about shoe hoarding. Why the hell are we shoe hoarding Apollo crews into the grog? That was so weird.

Yo. That's an excellent point. That was just kind of like, I told you, the Apollo thing is not going to happen.

I really hope their paying Kurt Hawkins a billion dollars a year. How do you come back with such, I mean, had the best promotion like Carlito did just on and on week after week and then you finally see the guy and you find out he's one of the biggest jobs you're going to have. And I'm just like, why?

I kind of was like, Kurt, maybe you want to call Jared might be able to have some. He was going to at least win one match. He hasn't won.

He's over. He's over. But he's responsible for the big show's push.

Exactly. Okay. So we're doing speaking of impact.

There are rumors that both crazy Steve and Gunner are WWE bound. Yes, reason I, I'm with you on that because the heart is did their last independent show this week. Yeah.

And I think it was crazy Steve and some other guy that job to the Rock and Roll Express and their last visit. So yeah, I was, I was happy to crazy Steve get that. But what happens to decay?

What happens? I don't know. I don't know.

Also, because impact just can't seem to get it right. Eddie Edwards is out again. Neon Jerry.

He's going to have to have surgery. This might be it. So Eddie has been injured so much.

Eddie takes off. Then Davey comes back and Eddie's out again. That's what I'm going to do.

No, I broke him up. That was the smartest move. They should have done the WWE.

Hey, that was the smartest move. TNA did was break those two guys. Well, speaking of slam a versery of things of impact.

Did you see what your slam a versery main event will be? Yeah, this might be a spoiler because I don't know if this is air yet. But if you're, if you're worried about impact spoilers, you may want to reevaluate your life choices.

So what's I watch? Bobby Lashley or current champion? Yes.

We'll take on the winner of a match of our number one contender as EC3 loses to Alberto El Patron, who is your current GFW champion. I, I'll confuse because the last taping, which was last week on impact. I saw Magnus with the GWF title.

Did that even show anywhere? I don't even know what that's air anywhere. I don't, I don't, I I don't know if they have the bill so they show the impact.

And there are rumors that might be a unification title. Now that Jared's running impact again. Oh god.

So, but you know what? I would still take that over the tag team match. Oh, what's going to be ugly?

L-A-X. I'm not kidding. This is going to be a match.

Now remember, slam a versery is their second biggest paper view of the year behind Boundary Glory. Yeah. Everybody with me so far.

I am. At slam a versery. Joseph Parks and Jeremy Borash.

No. We'll take on Josh Matthews and Scott Steiner. That's a thing at a paper view.

Wait a second. That's a thing at a paper view. Who guys?

Who deserve to not be wrestling? And Jeremy Borash. Yeah.

That's going to be a thing at slam a versery. And I am ashamed to say that paper view takes place on my birthday. Dude, are you serious Scott Steiner?

Where has he even been showed up on impact this past week? Oh, you know what? I got to watch impact now.

Just, just to see him come out. Just to see. He showed up this week.

Wow. And so did Joseph Park apparently. Well, I don't know.

Joseph Park of showed up, but yeah. And you also have a new exhibition champion? Yeah.

In low in low key again. Yeah. And then that side dial is now an impact again.

Yes. And he was just on all which yesterday? Indeed.

And God. So he's at our age now. Yeah.

Now he's an impact. He's an impact. But he's going for the TV championship.

That was the match yesterday. Yes. But he did not win.

He did win. So he's gone. You know it.

Did you remember our age seems like six weeks at a time? Say it with me. This is all wrestling logic.

God, I love this book. God to love this. Okay.

So let's get to this young book story. What? It comes out today.

Maybe it was yesterday. One of the two. The young books knew that the hardies were headed to Orlando.

They were the only people outside of Vince and the hearties that knew as the story goes apparently Vince made a phone call and said the words these young books are terrific, but you better take care of the hearties. So in an interview, I think it was Matt Jackson said he goes, we had a lot of pressure on us because we're the day before they're supposed to head to Orlando. We're in a lighter match for the ROH World Tag Team titles with them.

And we were the only ones that knew we couldn't tell anybody. Wow. So thank God that match went as well as it did.

Because right after that match, they were in a car headed to Orlando. Nice. Where was the Lakeland?

It's only like an hour and a half away. Okay. They weren't very far.

That's why because remember we were talking about like I was like, you know what, when Steven brought that up, I said, you know what, this is plausible because they're not that far away for super cart of honor. They're not, I mean, it's a, it's a drive. So they had a match lift and they could, I mean, they, by literally could have gone to bed, gotten up and had breakfast and then driven to Orlando.

Like it's literally not that far. What, to our drive? Hour and half two hours.

Yeah. So they were a day where they were moved. There were, yeah, the super cart of honor was the night before.

Basically, they were on they kind of overlapped NXT take over by like an hour. Okay. We also found out this week, NXT take over.

The next one will be May 20th the day before backlash. Yes, it will. So we may be booked that day, but if we are, I won't watch it right before the paper.

You know what, NXT is still rolling without a lot of their big guys. Because H knows what he's doing. Yeah, he does.

Your next hour, which paper view will be a week from this Saturday. Cody Rhodes going to get a shot or a week from this Friday, actually. Cody Rhodes is going to get an hour away to title shot.

But still not acknowledging that he's working under contract with that. Yeah, he is a triple threat with the, oh yeah, because then that's yesterday with Jay Lee thought. Yeah, he refused that.

Everybody kept saying, he's going to get him a home home. He's going to be Ring of Honor. He said, no, no.

He's having fun. And he's doing well. I liked what they're doing with him in our age.

I really do. So questioned of NXT that he had to backtrack. Do you think they'll move a peanut up?

Or what's her name? Whatever moon? No, Amber Moon, not yet.

You got it. If they didn't, if they didn't do it the night after WrestleMania, it's going to be a minute. What I see happening with her, because remember, we'll have the draft coming up in July.

Yeah. I wouldn't be surprised if they move her at the draft because that's another three months that she can sharpen her skills. How many did you get some more?

She's really good. I've been impressed with what I've seen her and her in Osaka will probably go together. Okay.

Ask them. I know. It's spelled wrong.

Yeah. But you know, I've seen her on TV. But we're going to talk about her.

That's a great segue. Do you realize she has officially passed Goldberg's undefeated streak yet? Sure.

Even though it was advertised at 173 and O for Goldberg, somebody did the research. It's actually 155 and O. Okay.

She is officially right now at 163 and O. With NXT in her career. Who a female?

No, Oskah. Oskah. Oskah.

Oskah. Oskah. Oskah.

Amber Oskah. Be member Moon. I don't know.

I never saw that. Yeah. Oskah's 163 and O right now.

And NXT announced her Andrea Demarco. Their ring announcer has left the company. Apparently.

But we also just talked about Oskah's as a milestone. Orton hit a milestone this past Tuesday. This past Tuesday was the 15 year anniversary of his WWE debut.

Yeah. I saw him. What that sink is.

He's been working for this. Yes. He had the curly hair.

He had the Instagram post about this. Yeah. I saw that like right right.

It was crazy. He had the beginning like the rock of this. He had the same exact career path.

Come in as yourself. It doesn't work. You go away.

You're your third generation super star. You come back. They put you with a with a faction and then you go through the roof.

It's the exact same career path as the rock. Oh, it's the end of which I finally watched Central Intelligence yesterday. Very much enjoyed that.

How to double feature. I watched that in Kiano. Back to back.

I enjoyed both of those very much. Rock and tin, Sylvain C. No.

Rock wasn't in Kiano. Rock was in Central Intelligence. Yeah.

It was teal. Yeah. I thought I did the voice.

No, that was killing. You're talking about, I'm thinking of the. Yeah.

Oh, no. I think I might want to. Let's see.

Charlotte. Another interesting. Another interesting stat for you.

Charlotte is now the first woman ever to main event, Roth, SmackDown and a paper view. As of this past week. Okay, moving on.

Well, I thought it was interesting. Well, you got to figure out, you know, what? Five years ago, Vince hated the women.

He just had for the eye candy and their matches were the women's match on the paper view was like three minutes long. Traditionally, the warrior was your first women. And then after then, the women got killed and they'd have a 90 second match on Roth.

I would actually time them and they got 90 seconds. And now, you got to give it for building up the women. Yeah.

I'm good with it. I don't understand that direction of the we hate Charlotte fan club to wear Charlotte and what's your name? With the hair, the glow Naomi had their match.

And then all of a sudden, the we hate Charlotte fan club comes out and beat up everybody because they don't believe that Charlotte deserves the title. I believe Naomi deserves where we go with that. It'll be different two weeks because that's the way we book in this company.

We need to get the and the Bollywood boys are now known as the Sing Brothers, SINGH. So they have a contract then in its own SmackDown. I'm assuming.

Yeah. So you got that going for you guys with gender or whatever. Yes.

How did you move up by being side shows? I don't know. Maybe that's how they'll make their path.

I thought they were called the Curryman. No, the Curryman was an impact wrestling. Sorry.

Well, they're with gender. I resent that. I'm a gender hollock.

I resent that remarks. I'm just sworn. No.

No. Well, I mean, where was Noble and Mercury till they got on with what's the space that it had for him? I remember Mercury was in M and M.

Exactly. I mean, they were dead and then all of a sudden we got pushed. Well, there were there, but there was a lot bigger reasons for Mercury than that.

He had some demons to overcome. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, back of the company. But he was dead for a small amount of stuff.

Then he could, you know, he could just back in the picture being henchmen along with Jamie Noble, which is a problem. Hawkins and writer. And if we can segue to your boy, when are they going to bring him back?

And let him get away from Luja on the ground. Johnny's never leaving. He's never leaving.

He loves being there. And also, he's talking about Don's boys. Aaron Rex gone from impact from whatever.

Oh, yeah. He's been so maybe he's he's broken away. He's been gone.

You know what? You mean, don't stay me and send over there. Yeah.

Yeah. He's big. I have a question.

Sure. I did not know the thing about Johnny and the Luja we're thinking. Can you bring you up to speed on that?

Formerly John Morrison. He is now Johnny Mundo. He's been in Luja undergross since day one.

He was their champion for a long time. Their belt is really cool. It's their world, their world title.

I think the first two seasons are on Netflix now. Yeah. Because the way Luja underground works is it works a lot like a Telenovela, where a season is every storyline ends at the end of a season.

They don't carry a lot over. Like you'll have certain cliffhangers and whatnot, but it works almost like a Telenovela because there are storylines that work into things that are more elaborate. But their belt is like the big, you know, like the Aztec sundial.

That's what it looks like. You need to do some research. I also watch that.

So they're never watching that. Yeah. Yeah.

The first one is airs on the L-Ray network. But I don't get the L-Ray network on the L-Ray network. The first two seasons are on Netflix.

It's called Luja Underground. And there are some amazing people that have worked for that. I mean Alberto, Alberto, Alberto, I'll betrown you work there for a while for a minute.

There's, I don't know if they really showed up for a minute. What about Molina? Molina is part was part of the cliffhanger of season one.

I think. But I'm saying like they literally work in seasons. They don't do like a normal wrestling company.

It's pretty neat the way they do things. So if Molina is still down there, I know they're like a couple of times. I will not confirm nor deny that they're still together.

I'm not keeping my season three. I got cut short episode five because they're in season four now. Yeah.

Yeah. That package I could off. So I lost L-Ray.

So I also found out recently. And I didn't know this that the Zack writer in the M-A are not together. Yeah, I just saw that.

I don't know what happened. I don't know, but my house apparently back on speed dial. I don't know what a big thing.

Oh, Emma, how are you doing? But no, Zack's got him in there. I'm sorry.

You're a college president. Poo-do-do-do. All right, gentlemen, let's run the card.

It's doing. I kind of like tonight's show. It's kind of laid back or we're having good discussion.

I miss having Steven and Chad and Andrew here. It's kind of weird. What we do have is.

No, we do not. We do not have. We do.

I thought we were banned from doing this. That is the club. All right, gentlemen.

Let's run the card. Only one match on the pre-show even though we're doing Ms. TV with Finn Baller.

I do have Chad and Andrew's picks. Your pre-show tag team match, Enzo Amori and Big Cass versus Luke Gallows and Carl Anderson. Let's see.

Chad is saying Enzo and Big Cass and so does Andrew. All right. Let's go with, yeah, you got to give Cass and Enzo a little some.

All right, Don. Yeah, since he lost it, the last one. Yeah, I give it to him.

So, Zack. Clean sweep. Enzo, Big Cass.

I'm going the other way. Really? I'm going the other way.

I think we've been we've been putting clown shoes on the club here for a minute. And I think it's time to curve that around. I will.

Because the title though, but they make up the, you know, they kind of clown shoes in them for a while. So I'm going the other way. Wait, I'm not afraid of just as a pop.

Is this face night? By the way, I don't know. We're going to find out as an artist.

I'm asking. Is this face? It's looking that.

What a surprise. No, America. You're not listening to a repeat of the club.

I'm sure what happens. All right. Remember, these are not in any specific order of the card.

They're just in the order of the importance I put them in. Roman Reigns versus Braun Strowman, Chad says Strowman Andrew says Strowman, Don. I hate to say, that's probably going to be the main event because they're shoving Reigns down the phone.

I'm going to go, I'm going to go with Strowman because Reigns won the last paper abuse saw it's either, I don't see it double sweep. Doc. I'm actually going to go with Strowman.

They've been doing a whole great buildup. I know. I know.

I'm doing the face. Yeah, because they have a big buildup. They've built the energy of Strowman.

LA LA's mind is blown right now. Doc, Doc's not a heel turn on him. Ha ha.

Never trust. Never trust. DC here.

It's a face. All right, LA, what you got? I hate to say this.

I'm like, are you going to go my way, aren't you? No, because Strowman has been running rough sound over everyone. I think the big show Suplex repeat of the Brock.

I mean, I'm not talking about that. I think that's I feel like that was a figment of my imagination that didn't really happen. Brock, Brock has been running rough shot the last three weeks.

Yes, Rooney Reigns. Unfortunately, he's going to win tonight. I will say shenanigans on this.

I think Reigns wins by DQ. Because who else is on raw now? Bray Wyatt.

And he will have dropped the build by then. Nope. Or not about the match.

I'm sorry. No, my thing is, I reason I'm going for Strowman this because you don't like Reigns. No, no, no, no, no.

I picked Reigns of that Russell, me. You got to miss that. Okay, but the thing is is that if Reigns wins tonight, then they end it and I'll see that happening.

And Reigns will lose and they got to excuse. He still wasn't all mentally infusically there because they ambulance incident. And they're going to have to be final.

Third time. You know what, you know, I disagree with that. Because Rooney's will win by DQ because this little ended in Strowman's going to go after Lesnar.

We talked about that the night at Fresno, because he got in Lesnar's face. And since the champion isn't even in the building in San Jose. Yeah, the belt's not on the line.

Right. Have you heard the joke of the of the four things, the wrestling that, you know, who did John Cena best? It was Kurt Angle, the rock.

It was see the himself. And then it was Brock Lesnar. You can't see me.

So that one is best interpretation of John Cena. All right, Seth Reigns versus Samoa Joe. Chad says Joe and Andrew says Joe.

Doc. I'm going to go with Seth Reigns on this one. L.A.

It seems like a stupid face paper view. I'm going to go. I'm going to go with Reigns on this one.

Don. Yeah, I'm probably say the same because Joe went last time. I think so.

I'm going the other way again. Okay. I'm saying Joe.

You're taking a lot of heels tonight, buddy. I don't mind. I don't mind.

I got breathing room for the small man. And what happens when we go heel intensive? You're all going to be pulling your hair off.

I just think that it's too soon to end this angle, especially if Seth or Seth and H aren't going to be on the show for a while because they're helping promote this Middle East brand. I think that Joe wins because this is going to be in my opinion, your main storyline for the foreseeable future. Yeah.

And if Seth wins, it ends the angle. I don't think this is going to lose. Okay.

I don't think he'll win and then walk away from. And I think this is Joe we're talking about. Joe is going to kill you.

I think there's going to be some weird stipulation. They're going to make it like no DQ falls kind of anywhere at some point. But that might be stream rules too.

That's why I think Joe wins tonight because that will carry us to a stream rules. I think it'll be the opposite. Because you'll have backlash for for SmackDown, then extreme rules for Raw, then money in the bank for SmackDown.

Well, I could see that Seth wins and Joe goes on this revenge thing. It does something bad. The Seth and they have the extreme rules match.

But I almost think Seth has to be the one to set that up though. You know what I mean? Like because it's usually the face that comes out and goes to me and you in a stream match.

But this is really funny. No, I think that Joe attacks him on Monday night because he lost in a bed of revenge. Yeah, I'm standing by my decision.

How so for Smash? So for those of you that aren't unaware of how this works. It's going to start in the home of Bray Wyatt and then end up in the arena in the ring.

So apparently they live somewhere close. Yeah. And I'm going to say it.

And if it's a spoiler, I don't care the first 10 minutes of this match is pre-taped. Of course. So be aware of that.

I'm not going to tell you what happens because I've read what happens. But just know the first 10 minutes of this are pre-taped. I'm sure there's going to be nothing a horrific about this match.

Randy Orton with the talent. Bray Wyatt, Chad's got Wyatt and Drew has Wyatt. LA.

What a screw with those guys. I don't make the pigs farm. I'm just reading with that's reading.

It gives us of course Randy keeps his title. But it's not for the title now. Yeah.

So it's just a match. I thought the rematch. I haven't read that.

Okay. So I'm not crazy. They did say at one point that it was for the title.

It is not for the title at this point. The website doesn't even have the title. Yeah.

Even on the pre-show, it doesn't tell you. But they were saying last weekend that it was for the belt. Oh, I'm sorry.

Gender stole the belt. That's right. That is true.

Gender did silver belt. It's so stupid. Give me Bray then just okay.

Don. Same thing because the belt's not on the line. So Bray's going to win.

Dock. It doesn't mean anything. But I'm thinking Randy's going to win.

But it will be by DQ. I don't know if there's a DQ in this. Oh, I'm not a DQ.

It's a house of horse match. I'm still going to go with the face. I'm going to go for a DQ.

Oh, what is it? Now let me let me say if we go back and rewind the tape. Somebody in this room said that Bray was going to get involved in the Roman match because he would have already lost the house of horse match.

And I believe, I don't want to say any names. But I believe his initials are LA. I'm going with Orton.

Even though he's now picked Bray. I am saying Orton just because it does it matter and it ends the angle and then Randy goes off the smack down and Bray goes off the wrong. But that's why I picked Bray because I just like Bray because this is stupid.

I'm doing for the belt. So this is insanity. I don't think we'll want to pick.

Give me the elbow. I'll just take the elbows. Hold on.

This isn't San Jose, California. So I guess this is a strap a gill on the beach. When were you 30 seconds ago when I said that?

No, but it's San Jose. So how can they be? Yeah, there's a lot of buy you.

I'm doing the Rogers. Here's the note, people. This is why we hate wrestling sometimes because it's stuff like this.

Cruiserweight title on the line. HNELICators. Neville versus Austin Aries Chad has Neville.

Andrew has Neville. Don. I need to Austin Aries.

I like Austin. Nice. Doc.

I really don't care about this one. I will probably be in the kitchen eating some chicken wings and drinks and some beer and I will come out and I will see that Neville is one. Great.

How are you? You can't have Neville win again because it makes double a double a joke. A double wins this match.

Shenanigans. No, he's a double a double a. That's our Anderson.

That's why he needs himself a double because our Anderson is like his his idol and he didn't want to like steal that thunder. So that's why he's a double a. So now I know this bothers you.

It's going to be forever double a for the rest of this time. Thank you for that. Shenanigans.

Shenanigans. Shenanigans Aries wins by disqualification because of TJ Perkins. That sets up Aries to win at Extreme Rules.

You mean the belt or I put the belt on or triple threat. Or you have to get Aries to a four corners and you add Gallagher to it because they've been tagging. He's going to win the other belt.

What other belt? You can. He's wrestling on NXT for that.

Oh, really? Yeah. Mazzle talk to him.

Yeah. Did not know that. Let's see.

You guys it's Shenanigans on the line. Kevin Owens, Chris Jericho of Jericho wins. He goes to SmackDown.

Doc. Jericho. Okay.

L. I'm going with Jericho on this one. Why?

We're going over this. Never trust. Whatever this.

I'm going the other way. Oh, Chad says. Oh, Chad and Andrew both say Owens.

I'm going. Oh, it's because when you're in the ring with Kevin Owens. Kevin Owens.

Oh, wins. Don. Except tonight.

Well, with the Jericho going off to do the Fazi thing. I think they're going to put the belt on here. So I'm going I'm doing it.

It's it's going to be honest. Yeah, let's go. Let's see.

We're all chatting titles on the line. It's the party boys versus Cesaro and Sheamus LA. Let's go with the hardies are too hot right now.

Okay, Don. There's what the belts on the hearty. So they're going to keep up with the hardies.

Hardies all the way. This is a that's an easy one. Chad says hearties.

Andrew says hearties. Oh, shame is since Cesaro. I think it.

I agree. I just you can't take those belts off them at this point. Now, I think you'll wait at least one more paper view because you've got to have the hardies carry the belt into an extreme rules paper view.

I think that they carry it to Summerslam to be honest. Woo. Oh, it's in the major.

Women's championship on the line because the world there's a universal championship isn't Bailey Alexa Bliss. Let's see Chad says Bailey and Andrew also says Bailey. Don before we get on that.

Well, Summerslam that'll be Brock Lesnar's second match for now. Yes. He's going to you know, assuming he's going to defend it before them.

Well, he might he just talk of one, but you know, yeah. A little bit of a house show. Yes.

He will be at Summerslam. Remember the 30 day rule? Yeah.

So we just have a 30 day rule on this. Yeah. Yeah.

Well, that's why they they only had to give up the belt because Daniel we've up. You can defend in 30 days. Or is Brock Lesnar an defendant that I don't want them 30 days.

Not in his contract. Okay, but back to the match. Since this is the Bailey's hometown and everything, I'm going to go with Alexa Bliss because reason is because they always they never really win in their hometown.

Oh, because remember Charlotte beat Sasha in her hometown and Sasha beat Charlotte. Like that Phoenix lost the title, Buffalo. You know, I the home that Naomi wanted and that's what she wanted in her hometown, but she wasn't carrying it into the match.

Yeah. So that was SmackDown. Plus that was a media.

I'm the media Yeah, media throws all the way. A lot of times they lose at home. All right, Doc.

See what happened is last night. I was, you know, doing what I normally do and I was drinking shops and I was listening to Ramstein. Stop it.

And I was watching suicide squad and I had the sound off, but it was just Ramstein and suicide squad. And Charlotte Quinn's on there. And I just now, I think I would actually go there.

Oh, well, Harley Quinn. Harley Quinn. Harley Quinn.

And I totally quit. Yeah, that's what's her name. I think I've accidentally called my name.

So I'm going with I'm going with the Alexa Bliss. It's so trashy romance novels that all the old ladies are either called Harley Quinn now. That's where her name comes from.

Who reached those? Okay, we know what they are. I'm not saying we've read it.

I'm reading them. So I didn't know that. Yeah, you do.

You have the whole collection. Sorry. So Doc, are you actually speaking?

I'm sorry. I've called Bliss Mania. I'm going with Alexa Bliss.

LA Shenanigans. So I'm kind of confused out of pick this one. I think that's just now.

Sasha is going to be involved. Oh, absolutely. And I'm not sure if she's going to cost the match for Bailey, but Bailey doesn't lose the title.

It's one of those DQ things. Bailey's going to keep the title. See, here's here's where my, here's where I'm torn.

Bailey had it rest on me any moment. God bless her. We've got to do this.

Sasha, he'll turn sooner or later. This is getting old. I think, but I also think it's too, I don't know why they're strapping a rocket to Alexa Bliss right now.

Already two times SmackDown Women's Champion, technically one and a half. It's because she's hot, dude. But I don't know that I just don't know that it's time to put the raw belt on.

Yeah, man, it works. This is how it's going to play out. Sasha's going to help Bailey cheat to win without Bailey's noting.

See. Okay. And then Sasha's going to raise Bailey's hand and then kick her tail in the ring.

I see it that way. Yeah, but you've also got two faces holding those belts right now, too. Her and Naomi.

What? You know what? I'm going to say it Bailey retains, but it's not going to be pretty.

Bailey retains, Sasha, he'll turn this happening. Okay. All right.

So, gentlemen, LA, we will start with you as the card stands right the card. Great, the card, please. This is a raw paper view.

Is that right? And you're telling me that your universal champion is not even in the freaking build. I am absolutely telling you that is a fact.

See, plus. Ooh, Don. I forgot to let.

Can I borrow your harrow queen copy of his stolen desert bridella? Okay, man. It's your boy.

I've got it on audio. If you want me to be mad. Yeah.

Oh, Rico. Don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't. All right, done.

Oh, pardon me. See minus. Doc.

Uh, be plus, man. I got hearty, he's an Alexa Bliss. I'm going to be, I'm not going to be drunk here to about two hours.

There's just wheels off when you walk into the door. I'm only on my seventh gear. Come on.

So, one of the things that Doc and I were talking about in pre-show is, yeah, a conversation with him. Oh, it's up. Where are you able to?

I've gone to the two decades. So, you can go through the drunken story. It helps that he speaks German.

I don't know how they're going to make three hours. How does paper view? Because there's only seven matches.

So, I'm going to say, D plus right now. Yeah, I'm there. I, I just, I can't, I'm not fired up for this card.

I'm far to hang up with you guys. Like, that's about the list. What's just your abacial match?

Oh, I know. I honestly think the beach. I think the enrollment and range fight is going to bring more the weak spank.

That's why I think that's going to be my bar is really low right now. It's just paper. It's not capital punishment low.

But it's promising that this card promises nothing. It's going to deliver. Nothing, which means it'll be a B.

I've already, and we got to let's say, I don't want to hear people agree. Great of capital punishment. I wish we could get them back to that time.

I don't think we could go back to that time. I think I'm like writing advice from Terrence Mallock. I'm going to watch it and we're going to tell you all about our grades for the next paper view is in three weeks for WWW backlash.

That'll be a smack down paper view. And there's a lot of stuff going on between the one and this paper view is called payback for all the true die part of it. This is payback for all the bashing we've been giving them for the last six months.

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