The Clubhouse Podcast

Special Edition WWE Fastlane 2015

February 22, 2015 Season 5, Episode 29

The Clubhouse Podcast delivers live coverage and analysis of WWE Fastlane 2015 on February 22, with hosts Rob and Chad joined by Steven Zimmerman and Andrew Beckham. The panel previews the card's matches, discusses major storylines including Samoa Joe's TNA departure and free agency, Randy Orton's status, and anticipates the Sting vs. Triple H program leading into WrestleMania. They also cover impact wrestling developments and grade the overall Fastlane card.

About this episode

Key takeaways

  • Samoa Joe and TNA parted ways over contract disagreements; Joe is now a free agent with reports suggesting Triple H wants him while Vince McMahon doesn't
  • Randy Orton has been pulled from WWE advertisements through WrestleMania, fueling speculation about his return and potential involvement in main event storylines
  • The panel predicts shenanigans in the main event between Roman Reigns and Daniel Bryan, with potential for a fatal four-way at WrestleMania involving additional competitors
  • Seth Rollins holds the Money in the Bank briefcase with four months to cash in, creating uncertainty about the WWE Championship picture
  • The overall Fastlane card received grades ranging from C to C-minus, with Ambrose vs. Barrett and Bryan vs. Reigns identified as potential match-stealers

Q&A

What is the status of Samoa Joe?

Samoa Joe and TNA could not come to a contract agreement and parted ways. He is now a free agent with reports that Triple H wants him in WWE while Vince McMahon doesn't.

Why was Randy Orton pulled from WWE advertisements?

Randy Orton was pulled from advertisements at least through WrestleMania, leading to speculation he may return during or before the event.

What are the main predictions for the WWE Championship contender match tonight?

The panel predicts shenanigans with no clear winner, and believes a fatal four-way at WrestleMania is likely to resolve the championship picture, potentially involving Randy Orton.

Read Transcript

The following is a sooner or later production. No. It is 702 on the East Coast.

It is 402 on the West Coast. It is the 22nd of February in the year of our Lord 2015. It is season 5 episode 29 chronologically number 288, which means we are less than three months away from a huge milestone.

You do the math there. The clubhouse is live and on the air. We thank you for joining us no matter how you are listening, whether you are live on you stream, whether you are listening on our archive, or whether you subscribe on iTunes.

We don't care how you are listening, we are just glad you are here. My name is Rob and boy am I glad we are in the studio tonight and that is what I have to say about that. But I am not alone because it is time for the WWE Fastlane Pre-Show brand new paper view.

Same old people. Let's go around the corner and find out who is here in the studio with me tonight. Joining me across the desk as he does each and every week is a man who has the key to tonight.

Layers. He is my co-host, he is chettable. I don't know about that.

You look very comfy, you look very toasty over there. This is all one piece. Okay.

It's in Mirage. Also joining us for the first time in a while. Loyal member of the Empire, but he said, hey, can that come out?

I said absolutely, you can sir. Is the man that I had a great lunch with the other day? He is friend of the show Steven Zimmerman and welcome back to the show sir.

Thank you. I am actually excited that I am in the side, even though I wasn't outside for all of two seconds. Two seconds is enough.

Yeah, that was enough. It is not even like that cold but with the rain it makes it freezing. So I am like, yeah, let me go inside.

I was going to the door when you got to the studio and I was like, oh my god, yeah, that rain makes it very scary. I don't know what to say. Oh, I don't go back to the other song.

I don't want to talk about it just yet. Hold on. You are hearing the official theme song for Fast Lane.

Kid Inks Faster. Which sounds horrible. Yeah.

I am going to say not a fan. You are trooper for putting this on your show. Yeah, well, you know.

We do it for the kids. But let's go ahead and talk about Samoa Joe. Biggest story of the week back country mile.

Samoa Joe and TNA are done. Could not come to a contract agreement. So it's a good thing he didn't win that Kotlin match on Friday night.

So he's now a free agent. So of course the question everybody wants to know is, is he going to WWE? Reports are, H wants him, Vince doesn't.

Now if you, if you know your history, Samoa Joe has had a swim through WWE before. And if you really want a good chuckle, look up his style from that match. Was that what he thought?

I believe so. Yeah. Joe's got like frosted blonde tipped.

Oh, it's weird. Yeah. He looked like the lead singer Smashmels hit the denies.

It's pretty bad. But you know what, Stephen, I were talking about this at lunch the other day. If you give me the book in a checkbook, you do this one of two ways.

You have him show up at WrestleMania. You either have him show up and take out Sting as H is hired gun. Or you do it the other way around.

You have him show up as Sting's friend. And you start a new faction with him. I think if you told Sting, you know what, let's redo the contract a little bit.

All you have to do is TV and pay reviews. You don't have to do TV every week. But give me, give me three appearances a month.

If you build that stable up well enough, I think you do it. I don't know if you get into three appearances a month. I'll say you, I'll say you could squeeze that in.

I think you get what I like to see. Yeah, at least in the end of the year. I mean, regardless, he should be doing it.

He should be getting more face time than lesseners been giving us. Yeah. I think not like we've been complaining about it five million a year.

Yeah. I think Sting pulls a rock maybe. Get a little more in after this, Mania.

Just get a couple more scheduled days. Show up here and there. You know, you don't see him for maybe like three weeks.

Get another one maybe four weeks in between that. You'll see him. So he's more like there.

Heck, given the track record of the belt right now, you could put the title on him. Yeah. Pretty much.

Also, I read this week. Abdul, the butcher. We know he's been having some health issues the last few months.

He's actually selling his hall of favoring to help pay for some of his health expenditures. That should never have to happen. I read that.

I was like, are you kidding me? Because I know it was been having health issues. I mean, look at the guy.

I mean, that big of a body throwing around a ring for that many years. It's going to catch up to you. And what have we, what has been a new theme on this show?

Father time is undefeated. Yes. So it, it kills my soul to hear about something like that.

Well, that's what they have to resort to. Oh, we didn't have one quick correction. I want to go through from last week.

Not really a correction, but just more of an apology. And I just listened back to the show today. And we had some real serious audio problems last week.

So I hope it sounds better for you this week. If not, please let me know. I'll know probably by the end of the day.

Tuesday because that's usually when I listen back to the show. Also want to send a shout out to the official fact checker of the show. Don is at a Academy Awards party tonight.

Yeah. Thanks, Vince. Yeah.

Thanks for scheduling this the same night. And then you had the Daytona 500 today too. I was actually actually you missed really good racing, but the finish was crap because it finished under caution.

And congratulations to Joey Legano winning the Daytona 500 today. Now, NASCAR talk returns next week because we are wrestling intensive tonight. Normally we are your one stop shop for all things sports entertainment.

But when it's paper, you day, we've got to be wrestling intensive because it's kind of what we do. Let's talk about this guy for a minute. Randy Orton pulled from all advertisements.

At least through WrestleMania. Really? He's coming back at Mania.

There's a lot of mental force. Hard of that, but... Or is it a ruse and he shows up tonight?

That'd be great. I miss Horde. I really do.

I never thought I'd see that day but you're right. I need him in the mix right now. I honestly think you can really really do something special with this and really throw a curveball because everyone's like, oh well Daniel Bryan's back in.

Oh, a curveball. Let's think about this. Or never officially got a rematch for his belt in which he dropped.

So, you saw him in a fatal hallway. Lesnar loses to someone losing to someone else. And then, you know, you could set up wrongs or for a while but then that's how you can turn like Randy face because they'll start having a mutual respect.

And then you could have Roman Reigns do the heel because he's not getting over anymore. What I'd like to see is I'd like to see Orton be the one that costs Rawlins caching in. Because you haven't had that yet.

We have outside of Cena. Yeah, I still feel. But I think that feud could elevate Rawlins to the area he needs to be in right now.

I think that money in the bank though, like if he gets that belt based off of that, that's just more he added to him because it makes him look cowardly. Yeah, he starts beating people cleanly. And then you're like, okay, he's serious.

But we don't know what to get him. It's like, who says that Randy shows up, costs him the caching. Who says the authority, this doesn't come back to next night and go, oh no, that didn't count.

Here's the briefcase back. Because if he's the chosen child of of the authority, they're going to do everything they can to keep him on top. But that weakness, the brand of Seth Rawlins.

Because that's like, oh, another gold opportunity. It's like when Cena just sat there and everyone's like, oh, they're just going to keep. That's what they were doing with Randy Orton, remember?

And people. Yeah, but you don't have to keep it tired of it. But you don't have to keep doing it.

I think you could go to the well with that once. You don't have to keep doing it, but that's what's their track record proved. They always do.

Yeah, and now so I'm just like, I think you don't even want to attempt it once. Because that's really bad for Seth Rawlins building his momentum. I mean, when you're the best heel in the company right at this moment, you want to see how it will.

You want to see him powerful. You can't, you can't, you can't weaken him up like Lesnar and stuff where you keep him off air or you make him have a cowardly wins or something. You just have to let him look powerful and book him the right way.

But then the read doesn't like booking strong heels anymore. No. I wouldn't disagree with that either.

Well, speaking of which, let's talk about Raw on the week that was at our sport. Am I the only one that watches Rusev and Go? Yes, Rusev's undefeated except for two royal rumbles.

Well, you forgot some old Joe lost a bunch of destination X matches when he was undefeated as well. Yeah, I was just kind of like, are we not going to admit the fact that he did not win either royal rumble he was in? Well, I mean, well, technically you could say he's never been penned or submitted in a singles competition.

So I mean, therefore, I mean, but we also did that with Kurt Angle for a little bit because Kurt Angle had the he choked. It wasn't legal. You know, he lost.

And then I mean, Samo Joe, they would say the only undefeated or non-pinned non-submitted Samoan submission machine. Samo Joe. And they would say that.

I think they could do that with him. I mean, no one pays attention to the Raw on board better royal rumbles. Yeah, I don't think that goes on your win loss record.

If you didn't win the rumble, I don't really think that counts against you as a loss. Speaking of that, wait till we get to impact talk. Ooh, it's all I'm telling you.

Okay. I gotta say, we talked about this briefly on the show last week. I'm ready for the Bella split now.

Let's not wait till WrestleMania. Let's just get this done. Bre makes such a terrible heal.

She's, she's a lackey heal. And to me, that's the worst kind of heal. It was kind of like when flare and evolution.

When he just became like Jamie Noble now. Or even Joey Mercury. Yeah, both nuts.

But at least they make decent heals. Like, Bree's not even a convincing heal. No.

It just, it looks like she's just going through the motions. What was it that I'm going to the emotions that you're even like talking about this subject? It's the Bella twin.

What was it? Did AJ say talent? Is that a sexually trained?

Oh my god. That is actually saved in my phone. That's a memo saved in my phone.

One of my last lines. So ever heard come out of her. Oh my god.

AJ really ripped it up there. And she's like, wait. Maybe she wants to look at it.

Huh? Is she out? No, now that I think about it.

I'm sorry for the segue. But is actually still in the company? You know what?

I don't know what's going on with her. I haven't heard of anything at all. I mean, I'm sorry for the segue.

No, no, no, no. But like, that right there, I had to ask before I forgot. But like, I forgot AJ existed.

Actually, just a shame on you. Well, but that is because of you. This is some of the demons they brought up.

You know, right now, Paige is your leader. I know. And I'm waiting for Charlotte to get the bump.

Oh, that ain't got a little, that got a little interesting this week. For Paige goes on Twitter saying that she doesn't think Charlotte's ready for the main roster. And that's getting a little heated.

So I think it's a work. I do too. I think it's a work.

I do want to say I think Ziegler does a really good Triple H impersonation. As he did on Raw Monday night. Very, very funny.

And we were talking briefly in pre-show about the Flair Triple H segment. And I don't know why I never noticed this before. But I love how Flair wears this Hall of Fame ring as a pinky ring.

That just makes Flair just old school gags that. Look at you. Yeah, that's because.

Yeah. Yeah. My fingers got too big so I can't wear any rings on ring fingers now.

They're all going to my pinkies now. Like, and it's like, well, there you go. But a great segment between the two of them.

It was basically just Flair going look. I know Sting. You've already let him into your head.

Stop it. And I know Sting and you serve. We know Sting really intense.

Like, that was the most intense I've seen him get in a long time. I like that Triple H. Yeah.

That was a great segment. That's what I've said. This angle is going to be fun for the next month to watch how it unfold.

I agree. We're going to get Sting tonight. So I'm happy.

I'm also now officially at the place with Miz and Miz Dow that I was with the Bellas in November. Any match they're involved in, I'm fast forwarding. Especially if it's Miz Dow in the ring.

Really? Because we've gotten to this whole Miz Dow starts to rest. It starts to get the upper hand and Miz rings this little bell and says, You need to come shine my shoes or you need to come get me a water.

I don't like the indentured servant angle. I never have and I never will. I only want to fan of this from the get go because I saw that kind of, I saw the riding on a wall with that.

The only person who should be talking during a match outside the ring is Abraham Washington. But not anymore. That was a horrible idea from Jump Street.

Yeah, let's strap a mic to this guy's face. So he can talk during a match. And seem to, did you see a break why it's promo?

I saw bits of it. Are we trying to pitch this as a casket match? Because as he was talking, it looked like he was putting nails into a coffin.

You know, that, I didn't notice that. So you might actually be on to something there, but I actually, to be completely honest, did not notice that. But I will look back at that, but you're probably right.

That would be, that would be a really unique dynamic. I mean, sure we saw it with Henry, but the Henry's not the right guy for a casket match. And if you saw Undertaker and Brae and Brae has that dark creepy, you know, is that or about him?

I think it's a good fit. I think it would work wonders, especially with Mania. I mean, I think it would have been better at 30.

Honestly. I got it because it'd be New Orleans. So I got the question earlier today, does he show up tonight?

And I, I don't think he shows up till tomorrow night, if at all. I say it shows up takes take. I say it shows up through weeks before Mania.

But that would be what next week, wouldn't it? It's some time. Because this is where Brae summates March 29th.

I just, I don't see, I don't see him. It was almost like the very sudden last second thing where he did with Triple H. The second time, remember?

Yeah. He showed up with like two weeks left. It was like Triple H carry that entire program just being with kind of piss poor promos.

And then he shows up like two weeks later. Or with two weeks left. And it's like, oh, that was horrible build.

But at least do something with a video package or something. Very wide work in his tail off. This is where it's going.

Unless they're trying to make it flexible to where if takers not ready to go. They can insert somebody and it can be interesting. Like, I, I don't know who they would do.

But I think it'd be wonderful if they have it flexible enough to where they can do it with someone. So they're not just building it as taker and then takers like, oh, I'm not ready to go. And that's like, oh, flat on their face.

And as we got to the end and the big brawl breaks out. When was the last time somebody no sold a chair shot tied us on you? I was just like, wow.

That was, you got hit with the chair and I was like, he's just like, whatever. And I was like, okay, hold on. It's bring this pack a little bit.

Speaking of tied up. So Neil, you had a prime time players reunion on my way. I think really awesome.

I think that's really great for the tag team division. Why wouldn't you? And because especially since O'Neill's promos are shot, we say sub bar.

Darren Young can pick up that slack. And Darren Young also has that, you know, he can have that cold following being the first open. I mean, yeah, really rough to work with that.

But I mean, it's, it's bound to happen to kids. That's talent. Yeah, which sets up a little bit of hard.

It's bound to happen in this day and age where it's more acceptable. And then you have someone like that. And you got to embrace that.

Like, you have to have someone really be a staple for it. And why not? And he is good in the ring, which makes it better for the company.

And as we got to the end of the show. Steven, did you notice somebody that was standing by the end now? And I can't say this with a hundred percent of surety.

But I can say this with 98 percent of surety. Oh, who was standing next to the announced table? Um, two words, Chad.

Big wiggle. Shut up. Norman Smiley.

Oh, nice. Oh, no. He's a trainer for NXT.

No, I was about to say, yeah, there. I've seen backstage segments where he's like breaking them up. So no, I've seen them.

Norman Smiley sighting. You know, for another show, Rick Futral couldn't be happy. Uh-huh.

Because he's a big fan of Norman Smiley. But let's talk about next year's Hall of Fame. Rumors now getting very strong.

Andrew put up a pair of headphones on. Oh, my God. Okay.

Oh, yeah, I'm on. Yeah. Joining us now in studio.

Pretty to the show. The King of Bowling Andrew Beckham. Thank you.

Free bird. Good to see you right here. Free birds, rumors.

Very, very strong right now. I'm ready for the rumors that's coming on tomorrow night. I'm here in things in a whole bunch of different directions.

Oh, no, tomorrow night. It couldn't have been more crystal clear. But the best most decorated tag team.

I mean, I get, but everyone's like, oh, just saying this out of bias. Because it was your kind of generation, your era. Deadly boys are going to be inducted.

That's a model. And they said, no, W to be has said it will be a tag team. Oh, my, that's, that's, that's the best team.

I, that's the team I want to see go in. And if they go, you heard though, right, right? For tomorrow night.

Yeah. I heard just a bisco, too, was one of them. But the other saying tag team.

Yeah, you've detected him. You mentioned yesterday. You told me you told me you heard it was the bushwackers.

Oh, the bushwackers were on that list. I hope not. No, I hope it's team 3D because you got to do it.

Well, the pants hot. You had Bubba right. Come in the rumble.

So he's, I don't know. He's not that I disagree with you. Yeah, totally agree with you.

It may be the first people to be in both. But the way next year's class is looking up for when it comes to Dallas. Good Lord.

You, we better book a whole day for that ceremony. Because if you're talking to free birds and sting and probably taker, they're going to, they're going to, they're going to make. Honestly, I think next year's and of course we're doing a lot of foreshadowing here.

Because we haven't gotten through this year. This whole calendar. But next year, watch.

They're going to promote it as everything's bigger in Texas. Everything's bigger. So they're going to have the bigger stadium.

They're going to have the bigger Hall of Fame class. And what have we talked to bigger access? Why is it taking 32 years for Dallas to host a wrestle.

I mean, I mean, I kind of feel like Vince is going to be making up for a lot of locks. So that's what you're doing. But think about it.

Think about Dallas wasn't developed in five years ago. Dallas wasn't developed six years ago. Like I loved the city, but it was ugly to walk into the city.

You look at it now. You got Clyde Warren. You got all the lights fixed.

You got all the city fixed up new high lines. I'm pretty sure. It's beautiful.

It's beautiful. You got all this stuff in Arlington. You could sell it.

It's wonderful. Now this is becoming like, I wouldn't say it's a lot. Say it to this.

New York. It's not that big of a city, but it's attracting people because there's much more to do. And it's aesthetically beautiful inside and out now.

Not just looking out at it and be like, oh, that's cool city. And then going, it's like, oh, there's not the do. Now you got so much to do different areas.

Now they have all these like fish of arts and, you know, uptown. You got all these places. And with all the transplants for people that work here, I mean, like, Emily just come in and it's great.

But by that rationale, I was shocked at New Orleans. Got it before we did. New Orleans had the rebuild.

And it was also around the time of Mardi Gras. And they had the silver dome. So, yeah.

If you haven't watched that episode of WWE 24 yet, watching them backstage when Hogan does it. The look that rock and Austin gave you to like, oh, I'm going after this. But let's talk about SmackDown just a little bit.

All of why is Cole now using out of nowhere. Is that gimmick infringement? Can Mike Tenae sue for that?

Is Mike Tenae smart enough to sue for that? It's also a fair point. He'll tell you how to, how to sue.

He'll give you the top five wrestlers in TNA. Yeah, he'll tell you what's, uh, who's fighting on Bell the Tour next week. And something very, very subtle that I don't know that a lot of people noticed.

When they were doing, uh, in Cesaro and kid, were cutting their promo right before their mad. Like, they cut the, they cut to the two screen. Uh, Cesaro says teaming with, Alright, kids says teaming with Cesaro was the greatest decision of my life.

And the look that Natti gives him. It is a beautiful sell. And it's so subtle where she looks like, you're, you're just a question.

Well, if I won, we've been married. How long do you plan on staying that way? How long have they been together?

And she was like 15. Well, the, the funniest thing was I think a week before that. Um, a friend of the show actually pointed out to me.

But, um, Tisa and kid says fact after everything, right? Yeah. He goes, he goes, I don't need catch phrases.

Fact. And then Cesaro rolls his eyes and looks like Rodney Dangerfield. The, the, the, the, the, the restaurant scene.

Uh, they, Was it after that? The week before? No, no, yeah.

No, he was the restaurant that he's like, he's like, I don't need, I don't need a catch phrases. Fact. And then Cesaro rolls his eyes like Rodney Dangerfield.

Apparently he's got fact t-shirts now. Oh, hilarious. And, uh, Yep, something I didn't notice until I was listening to him on SmackDown.

Why, when Rusev talks in Russian, Why did he always sound like he's talking to his pet dog? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NOT, NO, NO, NO, NO, it's like, it's like it's like, it's Russian atom Sandlar. Wow, do I not always have to I'm not you know my new big now as I was in the front of way to work the gobo's into the show This is the gobo version.

This is the gobo version. This is why I stereotype Japanese stuff, but new Japan renewed by access TV for two more years Now there were rumors this week that came out that ROH was in talk with Spike TV those rumors were killed very quickly But I don't see why not? I mean, I think ROH could get them ratings.

Oh, let's go say. Well, because TNA has the open partnership with R with ROH and New Japan and then all of them actually all work together. I think Spike's like oh, well, that just means TNA can come back And speaking of ROH Also announced the other day, Jewish and Thunder Lager were turning to ROH One of the top 10 greatest in ring performers like just straight wrestling Doesn't have to talk about promos and WCW had no clue what to do with him He's arguably one of the top 10 top 15 best in ring wrestlers, but like man I think he's gonna he probably should stop.

I don't know. I think it's just he's healthy That's the best thing about him. He's healthy.

He has no existing injuries, but he's gonna be what in his mid late 40s Yeah, he's I still think he should he should just be a special appearance guy Don't try to have a full schedule. He's he's a legend. He doesn't deserve to work that that damn hard He deserves to be treated like royalty and just kind of go in when he wants to have a match, but don't throw him in full schedule And they're talking about doing Three or four shows And apparently because TNA if it's one thing they know how to do is spend more money than they have Greato is trying to get Madonna to let him use like a prayer as his entrance if it has his entrance song And if you heard his entrance song on Friday night, it's very similar She's she is politely declined, but apparently he's getting a Twitter following wanting him to do it wanting her to do it But speaking of of destination America, which we weren't but there's my segue Apparently there's some debate with destination America and Comcast right now They may lose destination America this summer because there were there were some hard feelings from the discovery channel opposing The purchase of Comcast by time Warner You honestly think I honestly think I know what to do with TNA because at this point they'll just shoot themselves in the photo or they're making bad partnerships Make them a Hulu or a Netflix series like wish I wish I wish I would just just stick it on and then after every six weeks You remove that content and put the next six weeks on You kind of like kind of like Netflix does with their series.

That's what I'm talking about is just concentrate doing all this pre-booking and all this crap ahead of time You just might as well build it as that. It's like house a card and stuff like that just you know after six weeks Especially since everybody can know the next day what happens? Yeah for your next six week apartment Impact so your main event was an over the top rope 20 man gauntlet match Wow trademark sucked don't thank But here's how it works guys Two guys start in the ring and then a guy comes in every 60 seconds afterwards and the last guy's standing is the number one contender Wow, what a brilliant innovative concept They said that interrupt gets a get's a coupon for Applebee and in case the winner can't fulfill their duties they step in they send them to China super buffing King China super buffing Josh Matthews may be the new Michael Cole Because that a good thing or a bath well here's the deal no because Rob was given credit a couple weeks ago No, it's a bad thing.

Well, he says that he was I just don't understand why great oh so popular overseas Oh, I don't know maybe it's cuz you're taping your show in his backyard moron And he invoked the undertaker's name again this week who did Josh? Yes because Did you not hear that that James Thornton how James Thornton apparently took out Jeff Hardy and he did with the undertaker Couldn't even do Oh, boy oh But that's because Jeff Hardy's man and he's could be see who returned this week the sides Mickey James All right, she didn't return made his T and a debut. I'm Friday.

Oh, shark boy. No, no shark boy The former Drew McIntyre now drew galo a crap to this past it and did anybody I missed that but has anybody else realized that he and his ex wife now work for the same company again Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, remember she was married to Terrell and that did not end well. It didn't That's how he lost his job as I'm pretty much He lost his push, but he looks great He's in great shape.

What did you know what he was doing previously? He was working like rings, but like there's I found out at Dallas Comic Con a couple weeks ago I was with my she and Carla and we were walking past and we were listening But he actually was doing a bunch of like he was the face and they were doing artwork based on him for this like Romantic sci-fi novel or whatever or this war novel kind of like he was like warcraft He's the graphic novel fobio exactly No, yeah, they were using him and it was like oh, I can't believe it's not wrestling That's right, it's great But I'm gonna be interested to see where they go with him because he just kind of showed up and beat somebody down that was it so I'm gonna let Chad recover really to make that that shirt And that's the wrestling logic follow-up EY and Tommy Dreamer EY bit the crap out of Tommy Dreamer's eyebrow I mean had full eyeball teeth clamp and all of a sudden Tommy Dreamer was bleeding like a stuck Hey good because I can't stand And you know if you don't believe EY is TNA But that was God that was I was I kind of even I went loud And one thing that TNA seems to have forgotten about Are you okay? No, I think it's face is like I think I'll go to say something Oh, wait Did TNA to TNA fire all of their audio engineers Because it seems like They ended that they needed to relearn the mix between the guy talking on the mic and the mic on the audience Did you not read the contract between them a destination America?

They're using all of their audio engineers a little deer. I'm making this up totally. Okay I made beta that last part you know TNA is going to come that to it.

I know that's all I know that have no audio no joke Did you notice that this week? Where it's like you know how like in raw when they forget to turn the the channel on right away when they're talking and there's that weird echo because only the people in the arena can hear It was that and the crowd noise was like way pumped up And I was like you've taped this a month ago can you don't you can't fix this At least come in and loop it or something They have drinking to go do yeah, apparently All right, so that's the week that was in our sport. Let us get to Running the car now this is again not any specific order just about I thought the order of importance was We're gonna start with the six man tag match Dolph Ziegler Eric Rowan right back and Seth Rollins.

I'm sorry and right back versus Seth Rollins cane and Frenchy Now Don did text me his He texted me his pics all on one second Ziegler heel time please Thank you he's he's calling Ziegler's team I just don't know that worth my whole problem is I don't what I don't want is then to turn him heel and have him join the authority because that just doesn't make any I just doesn't work for me. I still think the face is win Because I just I just can't see Jay and Jay security going over right back. Can you can you be heel and not be part of the authority you can But not in this situation Now I'm just saying because of who you're facing yeah, but why it's not part of the authority master chat Team Ziegler Steven Wait, so it's Jay and Jay and not not yeah, you cuz you said oh it's kid and Frenchy.

Oh, I think this is where the cane Frenchy feed might start I think Jay was with that with that with that with that statement. Yeah, I'll go faces when Andrew the face is wins. All right next match up brother versus brother Gold dust versus star dust apparently Dusty's in town Oh, I think a lot of these matches for me tonight are matches setting up WrestleMania So I think Cody goes over tonight to set up the match at WrestleMania chat.

Yeah, I agree with that I say Cody actually goes over and both I say he goes over. Yeah, but this is where he drops the star dust he'll come out of star dust tonight But he's gonna be like, I don't need this gimmick crap come back as Dashing or something like that where he feels like he's better. So Father another gimmick I would I would just love to see Cody Rhodes versus Dustin Rhodes, but Dustin said you'll never see him without the makeup again No, he's the natural The natural but you know wrestling fans especially new ones and especially with WWE today gold dust is You know he's out there people know who it is if you put him as dust in Rhodes there I'm like oh, it's such an old match Andrew.

Oh, I actually agree with my little cohort over here I think he goes over both. Oh, okay, don't says star dust over gold dust Davis title on the line And nobody care China Mickey Bella versus page. I think we all know who just Steven is picking I think page wins.

It's because brief costs Nikki It's because we're getting engaged in page knows to make daddy happy. She has one of those It's okay. She's younger than me.

So I'll take it. She's only a year younger than me. It's all right chat.

Yeah page So I I think the belt changes hands could be a shenanigans Andrew It doesn't really matter how I'm going to be in the bathroom. It'll be over like that Don H dot as page as well United States champion chip on the lines My scuff Ruse versus John China haha Don says Rusev. I say Rusev, but it sets up the match at Russell Mania where Cena breaks his undefeated streak and wins the title.

Yeah, because this belt means nothing to see enough But it's good to see him kind of taking a backseat a little bit Yeah, it's something that Steven I talked about at lunch the other day Steven I'm taking Rusev Not just can I actually want Rusev, but I want to win both and then we could he could turn it to the European title because he'd be America's little modern day. Oh, I'll be coveted European champion. Yeah, Andrew.

Oh, yeah, Rusev wins. All right Also, by the way guys, almost every belt on the line tonight and haven't we pretty much agreed on every match so full. Yeah What's that predictive intercontinental championship on the line?

Only have his old team bad news bear it Dean Ambrose Let's see Don says Ambrose. He should have said another bathroom break Actually, you know what I think bear it retains to to stretch the feud out a little bit because Ambrose has nobody else to feud with right now chat How long has this been it has this feud been brewing about three weeks And a very creative way they got the contract so I bear it didn't want to sign the contract So on raw Monday night Andrew Ambrose came down zip tight his hand to the ring post and put a pen in his hand and Sign the contract How long has bear been picturing the strap though Two months Somewhere in there was was it right after Real C who's right after TLC because Ziglar dropped it because the authority right Then Ambrose might pick up this this belt. Okay Stephen.

I say Ambrose picks it up, but then Bear it gets a back at maniac to put himself over so therefore the feud could actually be something Okay, Andrew. I'm going to go with bear it on this You have to have yeah All right bear it though. I'll be a WWE tag team champion chips on the line The bush waters I have you ever noticed I have a different team every time we we have a tag that seems like it Usos versus the masters of the WWE universe.

I don't care if they're not calling on that That's what they're calling themselves and that's what I'm going with I think those belts move tonight. Yeah, it's been a long time but we say that every month But I really think that it's time to give these to a shot Don says Don says the same thing Usos lose yeah I agree, Stephen I agree you got two of the like two of the best in ring wrestlers Let the actual wrestlers have the belt, please? Yes, and so you got kid and Cesaro who are probably is the best in ring in WWE today Let them have the belt run with it for a little bit Andrew I guess kid in Cesaro Masters of the WWE okay kid is kid is the high top fade and then Cesaro is replaced I don't really I just didn't know who the tag team was I haven't watched wrestling since last paper kid I guess they're prepared take my opinion for a grain of salt.

Okay, all right, and in the main event tonight For the number one contender ship For the WWE heavy world heavyweight title since it's not going to be defended tonight Roman Reigns Daniel Bryan I am on the record I have already said it and Don agrees with me here as well Shenanigans nobody wins three way and WrestleMania chat it makes perfect sense The more you and I've talked about the more sense that makes Stephen I agree with then I also have the theory where Orton comes in screws it up therefore that's the shenanigans and or gets his rematch that he never got when he lost his belt last year But do you think it's gonna be a fatal for way of WrestleMania as well? Well, I mean you don't I mean Roman Reigns is not over enough and Brock Lesnar is Too big to lose to somebody who's not over and then someone in the size of Daniel Bryan You need to have another guy who has like kind of a very popular fan base and then you could have like orc and beat one of those two So Brock Lesnar does not look weak About the power Or to bring to you have your life they need another wrestler in there because right? Well, I can't wrestle or do it the same way You did it last Wrestlemania orton in her fears now there's four guys you have each of them in a separate match in the winner of those matches face each other for the title No Because as much as Vince didn't want to do another triple threat I just don't know that he wants to do a fatal for way well the federal for way actually went over pretty well 16 with WrestleMania 2000.

I mean it had McFully and big show, but I'd still went over pretty well like I think you could do it especially with those guys Eight years from now you can say yeah the federal for it went well even though it had Roman Reigns and Brock Lesnar and we do want to say hello to The official Justin Timberlake of this show Charlotte who's joined us in the chat room. Well, hey A lot of big date day yesterday with her man at the perro It was not very jealous because I still haven't been to the perro yet. You're not missing much They have a good time.

I look so things I just I just don't know how you book the end of this match or is this a sting thing? Triple H comes down to try to interfere We have a repeat of the end of survivor series No Because they've actually moved so far away from that like this is its own entity now with the yes movement versus Roman Reigns who's Getting pushed to the moon and he's lost his his like heat like people hate him now like Batista when Batista came back Like what I think the difference with the Batista thing though was Everybody and I mean, oh, she's just not that great. I'm gonna have to call her her man Everybody knew when Batista showed up what the plan was He's gonna win the rumble.

He's gonna go to WrestleMania thing god they didn't put the belt on him But we all knew the day he showed up. He's winning the rumble like Although it is other rummels to other news the sun comes up in the east and sets in the west But we know the plan is to put the belt on Roman at Mania I don't think people want that I honestly I think because Vince had a knee jerk reaction with the Batista thing it was like This was not how it was supposed to go and now it's happening again Of course his Daniel Bryan, but that's why I think you can insert Randy Orton Because Randy Orton has been out of the pitcher for a while that he could be a fresh face even though he was in it all of last year He's a fresh enough face compared to to Roman Reigns and the Lesnar's never there But I think Lesnar should win or Orton should win because I know Vince does not want to have Daniel Bryan have that belt after the injuries He had last year, but I still know that you put the belt on Daniel Bryan two WrestleMania in a row No, Vince doesn't want to do it and the company doesn't want to do it just because of his injuries You you made a huge gamble with it last year and then had him win two Piedle defenses against Kane and didn't look like a viable champion 18 seconds. Yeah, it's just he's he's not He's not good He's not good for the long haul.

I think he's a great midcard guy and you could stick him there He has main like main event appeal, but you can't put a belt on it This thing's gonna get interesting. So it's before wins the belt at Mania Does that set up him and Reigns just to go on like a two or three months? No, because you have Rollins with the money in the back And when it's the only one He's only got what four months to cash that thing in I honestly think if you can't figure out what to do You just give Rollins the chance to cash in at Mania and make it the best cash in ever I mean Rollins finding that would be a regular cashing in the next night.

I thought that was really cool And that he didn't cash in at Mania. He cashed in the night after The thing with that though is Rollins is finally over because they saw what he could do at the ring the TV the people and they're just casual audience finally saw What Rollins could actually do in ring in that Lesnar scene a match you could put it put it on him He could go. Well, let's let's grade the card as it stands I think we all agreed that The rumble downgraded itself by the time it was all said and done Right now for me as this card stands See minus for me.

It's a day for me. See them I'm ago. I'll go see minus Andrew.

I'm expecting a B-minus out of this Someone has to step up and make this a good paper. I just a long five weeks to own the lane. Yeah I honestly think the match that can deck and pump the most from the crowd and probably in ring because it's a weird dynamic Will be Daniel Bryan and Roman Reigns?

I think that's the most interesting Well, watching them work you have too much cases, but watching them work in the last couple of weeks Daniel Bryan's kind of pulling some greatness out of Roman Reigns. I can't deny that But I will agree with you that will probably be the match of the night if it does if it's not between Dean Ambrose and bed and his bearer The problem that you have is Seth Rollins is one of your top workers. He's getting very in the sixth man.

Yeah Barrett's he's such a health risk That but the Ambrose always brings it and yeah, but Ambrose May may tap to break a little bit because Barrett's so injury prone and he doesn't want to be the guy to put this guy out Also, Dean Ambrose can't hang in the ring with a bad news bear wrestling standpoint But there's a size difference What do you think's what happened with H and Sting tonight anything? They're gonna sit at the match Rosamini Sting is as one point sting will point at the sign Sting purchases T and A 49 Let's do the plug Yeah, we got one of those in there right at the wall. It's free if you get in the February Visit our website W w w w dot the clubhouse podcast dot com find out everything you need to know and some stuff you don't Like our Facebook page look up the clubhouse podcast on Facebook put the word podcast on the end or it's something completely different Follow the show on Twitter at clubhouse show you can follow me on Twitter I am a guest that Rob Irvin that has spelled ERV I end.

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