Live From The Oak Cliff Film Festival 2018

Oh, yeah, it is 706 on the East Coast, it is 406 on the West Coast.
It is the 15th of June in the year of our Lord, 2018.
So you're saying yourself, wait a minute Rob, why are you on the air?
Usually on Sundays.
Well, because we're going to throw it up on you every once in a while.
It is season 8, episode 41, 444 times this voice has welcomed you to the Clubhouse podcast.
Normally live every Sunday nights, seven Eastern for Pacific, but tonight's a little different.
Tonight, we're actually, God, we've added a new film festival to our rotation.
We're at the Oak Cliff Film Festival, we're going to be here for the next couple of hours,
but let's introduce the people at the table.
We're live at the Turner House, a beautiful facility.
Getting to my right is my co-host and a man who's gotten his steps in today.
He is Chad, welcome, sir.
And almost died in the process.
But you know what, that shows your dedication, sir.
Yeah, but it also shows my lack of poor planning, you know, my lack of planning,
addressing like Johnny Cash and wearing Stacey Adams.
We got some feedback going on here, we can fix that.
We have the technology, we have the technology.
Sitting in front of me is the official fact checker of this show and a man.
He's not going to have to have his running shoes on as much, because this is not as big of an area
as he normally deals with.
Don's here.
I'll still run.
Keep talking.
I'll still run though.
Oh, you'll still run.
Oh, yeah.
You'll run.
Oh, by the way.
Oh, you will run, sir.
I just made Chad a happy man.
Did you make Chad a happy man?
Yeah, we stole some of the stash from me and the fantastic faith for to give to him and his
wife.
So he stole from himself.
Well, you know, that's the wife though.
So no, they liked the stuff tonight.
I've just been, you know, I give him some syrup from Montana and some tea and some candies.
I don't want to point to speakers out a little bit, that'd be pretty cool.
We have our first guest with us already, sir.
But guess what?
You got to go do you, don't you?
All right, bye-bye.
All right.
Joining us right now is a guy that we've actually spent some time talking to in pre-show.
And I'm very excited to have him here, because he's got a lot of stuff that I'm interested
in hearing about.
So go ahead and introduce yourself to our audience if you would please.
Talk right into that thing so we can have everybody hear you.
Hi, my name is Joel Marcus.
I'm the writer and editor of Bad Reputation, a feature-length documentary about Joan
Jett.
Now, here's the deal.
Movies call Back Reputation.
It is not my life story.
Let's be clear on that.
That's not the reason I don't excited about this.
You had to go with the obvious, too.
Yes, of course.
But it is a documentary about the great Joan Jett.
You know, you and I, sir, we are what they call men of a certain age.
Yes, we are.
But when you mention somebody like Joan Jett, there is, right to it, from runaways to
the black hearts.
And she's still out there getting it done.
I believe it is a plane tonight to play last night.
No, I played last night.
Played last night.
How did it go?
It went very well.
We had a very good response from the audience.
But wherever we played it, it's been really well received.
At the Texas Theater.
At the Texas Theater.
What an amazing building.
Amazing.
I was going to ask you because I'm amazing.
I'm hearing an accent.
So I'm thinking Detroit.
That's it.
I should just outside Detroit.
Actually, yeah.
Is that as you're so on?
I might show.
I got you a microphone.
Hello.
Yeah.
Okay.
Got you on the microphone.
I'm just from the suburbs of Detroit.
So what was I talking?
I was actually the guy one time.
He said, I'm from a small suburb of New York.
It's called Jersey.
You know.
So what brought you?
You did the DJAM documentary, which Chad alerted me to in pre-show, and I'm going to go
check that out.
But what brought you to want to do one about Joan Jett?
Well, actually, they called me the producer, Alessandro Pasquino.
She had seen the documentary, and we live in the same area, and she works in documentaries.
She had recommended me to the people that were making it.
And so I had a meeting with them, and they said, look, we really like your work, and we'd
like you to edit our film.
So how long did it take you to...
I mean, how much footage did you have to film, and how long did it take you?
I couldn't tell you exactly.
There's a lot.
There's more than an hour.
There's more than an hour.
How long did you spend with her?
We spent quite a few...
There was about four interviews overall in various places.
It's taken about a year to get it to completion, which is kind of about average, it just
depends, actually, DJM should much longer than that, but it's taken about a year just
every year.
And really, a year is actually a really good time frame to put together a documentary.
Yeah, I mean, I've known some to take up to eight years.
It just depends on how many people you've got working on the film.
And we had a slightly bigger team than we had on DJM, which is why it took DJM to
longer.
And so we had...
And, you know, as you probably know, documentaries, there's no science to them.
Right.
You have an idea, obviously, of the linear story about her life, but the way you want to
make it and the tonality that you want to make it in, that is something that comes as
you're making it.
Is that time frame something you imposed on yourself, or was it just one of those real
finishes when we finished it?
It's just, well, I mean, there's financial restrictions as well.
Oh, absolutely.
But it's just kind of how long it's taken, really.
We had to get it ready for Sundance, so there were a lot of long weekends and late nights.
And then we'd actually stopped for a little minute, and I don't know if people know when
you're making a documentary, when you're using that amount of archive footage, you have
to give stuff to a lawyer.
And they have to, because a lawyer has to indemnify everything, because in documentaries
you have this thing called fair use, where you can use a certain amount of footage for
free, because you're making a documentary and you're telling a story.
Because it's not like you're trying to rob from the subject, because the subject knows
what you're doing.
Absolutely.
But the lawyer has to kind of indemnify what you're doing, and then the insurance company
will ensure you.
And so we had a few little things we had to move around a little bit, because we'd use
too much music or to, or a photo that wasn't right, and then once we've done that, which
is what we've been doing in the last kind of month.
But in general, the film was finished, the story was finished.
Was there anything that you learned from about her?
Because I mean, obviously you're talking archival footage.
So you're going all the way back to the runaways days, and maybe even before, was there anything
that you just, that you learned about her that you didn't know before that surprised
you?
Oh, yeah, I learned a lot.
I didn't know about all her activism, her animal activism.
Oh, she's huge into that.
Huge into that.
But also learn about her as a person, actually, and who she is as a person, and how kind
of cool she is as a person, really, and that she speaks her mind and she stands up for
what she believes in.
And, but she just doesn't do it to kind of be on a soap box.
She just kind of gets on with it, and kind of, you know, looks after people like, you
know, one of the points in the story is with Laura Jane Grace, and she became transgender.
And Joan called Laura Jane Grace up just to say does she need any support, or how does
that feel, because they played music together, or they had some sort of musical connection.
And I just learned about her as a person, and that kind of was quite inspiring, really,
you know, and how she fought against, you know, during the runaways period, when, you
know, the society was in a very misogynistic state, and the rejection that the runaways
got as young women playing electric guitars.
Which she was in that band with Lita Ford, as well, with Lita Ford, and Sandy West.
Oh, absolutely.
And, but they got a lot of crap, really, from the mail, from the roadies, from the
audience, which they used as fuel, which I thought was great.
Which, yeah, which they used as fuel, and I thought, wow, what a lot of courage to kind
of just carry on striving against that.
And so, and I also learned about some of the music she'd done, and I didn't know everything
about her.
And as you know, when you're making a documentary, you find out so much about it.
Absolutely.
Um, but she really kind of, I found it quite interesting and inspiring as a woman, you
know, and as a, as a human being.
And obviously a badass.
No, don't out.
Well, if she was, if I'm not mistaken, I believe she was also featured in one of the food
fighters documentaries when they did the Sonic Highway series.
Right.
So, I actually didn't know that, but she, but she's played with the food, they've supported
the food fighters.
Oh, absolutely.
And they're good on tour with the food fighters, and with green day, and with, with all sorts
of people, you know.
And you and I were also talking in pre-show, one of the things you and I have in common
is we've both worked in the DJ industry.
You're actually DJing tomorrow night.
Did I hear you, correct?
I am DJ.
We're at.
Uh, at a pub in, uh, in Venice Beach in California.
Oh, so you're just taking off tonight?
I'm taking off tomorrow.
Tomorrow night.
I take off, and then I, I land at six o'clock, and then I go straight to the pub and
going to DJ.
It's, it's a hobby of mine.
I've done, and I've done it all over the world, and it's just, and we were just about
there's, there's no feeling like that feeling that when you play that song that people
just start moving, and they just start partying, and it's just, it's, it's, it's such
it adrenaline rise.
Absolutely.
Is there, is there a go-to song that you always about to make sure you have in the set?
Uh, I, I, as a rule, actually, I try, I have obviously a lot of music, you know, I'm
a big soul fun jazz guy.
You're talking to you guys are right now, no brother.
And I also play a bit of Afrobeat and Cumbia and Marenga and salsa.
Very nice.
I'm from South Florida.
So now you're talking my language.
So, uh, and, and then I'll play some Clash and T-Rex and, uh, and talk in head.
See, I love that when you can mix those genres together, and a lot of times, another
thing that I loved about DJing, too, is, is getting some of those deep cuts and turning
people on to stuff that they may not have been turned on to otherwise.
That's what I really enjoy doing.
That's my favorite thing to do.
And actually finding different versions of, oh, absolutely, familiar songs that people
have made.
And I actually like to introduce that like a, a reggae version of something or a Latin
version of something like Ray Barato did an amazing version of Stevie Wonder's past
time paradise.
Oh, brother.
And when I heard it, I was like, what are they doing?
And then when I got to a third of my third, I was like, oh my god, this is actually really
good.
Well, I heard today, I heard an old, like, I want to say this from the early 70s, a country
artist that covered Red Red Wine.
Right after, after, after, of course, Neil Diamond wrote it, but a country version of it
was very strange.
Yeah, I figured you were going to go with the Weezer story that we talked about.
Yeah, did you hear the Weezer story that came out, this is so, there's this guy on Twitter
and for like a year, he has, like, it was a fan, I thought it was a girlfriend.
And she started this hashtag, she wanted Weezer to cover Totos Africa for like a year.
And so the band was finally like, okay, whatever.
So all they said was, just tune in on this day.
Well, they trolled her and what they released was they actually did Rosanna, but they had
done Africa, but they were kind of trolling her a little bit.
And I will tell you, that Africa cover is amazing.
There really is.
Like, you would think rivers is vocal, it doesn't really fit.
But it doesn't sound like rivers.
Like it's really, really good.
It's on iTunes right now.
The cover because they released both of them, the Rosanna single.
It looks like the Toto logo going through theirs.
It's kind of neat.
But let me ask, is there a song of Jones, because we want to talk, of course, talk about
the document, is there a song of hers that stood out for you going in and did that change
afterwards?
I mean, I like Wasted.
Oh, it's great.
I like Wasted.
I like Cherry Bomb as well, because it's like, it's raw, right?
Anyway, it was so different from everything else at that time.
It's just raw and dirty, do you know what I mean?
And so, yeah, so I like that the Wasted and Cherry Bomb.
And you got your Clash T-shirt on, I can see.
And I got my Clash T-shirt on.
Well, I saw the Clash when I was 15 at a rock against racism concert in London.
Oh, wow.
You know, because I have a few years on me as well.
And I'm lucky I had a rich musical education in England.
They were a lot of DJs that were great curators that took the great American music and the
great Jamaican music and the great African music.
And they just curated it for us.
So we had such a, you know, we had T-Rex.
Oh, it's such a rich history, too.
We were talking, actually you weren't there, but I was talking to another filmmaker who's
got a documentary that's being featured on Showtime right now about the station in New
York, KLR, that brought a lot of those, they were the station that brought a lot of those
artists to this country, whether it was the Clash, whether it was you, they were the first
station to play you too in America.
So there's so much that came out in that time.
And for you to be able to do kind of flip-descript and take an American artist that was a result
of that in some cases.
And of course, now Joan Jett back in the spotlight because Ronda Rousey, former UFC fighter,
now WWE superstar, uses bad reputation as her, has her walk out music.
Did you have a chance to talk to her about that and get her fizz?
Because it's really kind of put her back in the limelight again to talk to Joan about
that.
Yes, sir.
Yeah, I mean, I didn't personally talk to her.
Okay, because I wonder why they, has that given her kind of a shot in the arm to a newer
generation that maybe wouldn't have known her stuff before?
I've got to tell you that I have, when I've told people what I'm working on, that people
from 16 to 60, right, have gone, oh my God, you're working with Joan Jett.
And I told a friend of mine who works at a music company in L.A. and she said, what you
up to, and I've known her for years.
And I said, I'm working on a Joan Jett documentary.
She started crying.
Really?
She's actually like, welled up, she was, oh my God, I love that woman.
So I got her assigned album and I had a t-shirt, because she was so damn it forward, my friend.
The response.
The response was so visceral and all these people that I've met, who I talk about Joan Jett
and they're like, oh, she's badass, she's like, and she's still out there getting it done
on.
And she was just here.
Right.
What was it?
Yes, she was.
Just this past Sunday, she was in town, because she's touring with sticks and Tesla.
And they played just right down the street here in Irving.
I wish I could have gone with the music factory.
They were at the music factory.
We have a brand new venue that's in-door, end-out-door, and so they just started their summer
season.
So she was just in town.
So they'd just stay a couple more days and watch the movie.
She's, yeah, she tours well over there, but I mean, she played, when we played the film
of Sundance, she played there as well.
And she came up, she was in L.A. in a longer, she's still, and she's, you know, she's
vegetarian vegan.
And she's just so fit, and she's just, you know, all right, we're getting the high
sign that we've got to let you go, but before we do, we have founded this show on Shameless
Self Promotion.
Right.
So we want you to give out all the social media websites where people can get a hold
of you if they want to screen the film at their festival as well.
We can get hold of me at Descent, D-I-S-S-E-N-T-1-0-1 at Mac.com, that's my email.
You may see Mac.com, and then you can, you know what, I cannot give you the official website.
If they just get hold of me, I'll pass on the information.
So I'm Magnolia.
Oh, aren't they really?
That's a local company.
Yes, it is.
So, yeah, Magnolia distributes things to the film, so they can contact them as well.
It's called Bad Reputation.
It's about Joan Jett.
And like I said, if you're 16 to 60, you know who she is.
Get a hold of this.
Joan Marcus, thank you so much for joining us.
Of course.
We're honored to have you.
I'm honored to be here, and thank you very much for having me.
Go enjoy the evening.
It is the Friday night of the Oak Cliff Film Festival.
We are at the Turner House, Don's here.
What's up?
I just had a popsicle.
That's your boy, sir.
That's your boy.
Into the ditch, we go.
Yeah.
But you know, but if you're good at something, you should keep doing that and things.
That's all I'm saying.
All right.
When was he good at?
What?
Okay.
Never mind.
You got to dig a little deep.
Are you good at something?
Keep doing it.
No, no, no.
I'm good at being me.
No.
That's fair.
That's fair.
All right.
Thank you so much, sir.
We are live at the Turner House tonight, and Sunday we're still going to have our show.
Because this is money in the bank weekend, sir.
Yes, it is.
I'm looking up.
This is me looking up now, Don's taking pictures.
Okay.
Because Don's hanging, handling our Instagram feed as well.
We have more guests.
Go ahead and tell us who you are.
Talk right into that microphone.
Nice and loud, sir.
Everybody can hear you.
Hi.
Wendy McComb, writer director of Birds Without Feathers.
It's a feature film, Dark Comedy.
All right.
Jake McGinsky.
I'm the director and producer of Milford Graves, full mantis.
So we got two different films being represented at the same time.
Battle.
Battle.
Battle.
Get a beat.
Somebody get a beat.
I didn't bring my high pot with me.
Okay.
DJ just walked out the door.
All right.
You know.
Well, it's all right.
I don't want to fight today.
I think Wendy just won.
Let's move on.
Okay.
You can see.
You can see.
So have your films air shown yet?
Are they about to?
Because I know we're smack dab in the middle of festival.
My film shows tonight at 8 30.
So you're about to have it happen.
I'm about to leave and go do a sound check at the Texas theater.
This will be a wild detectives.
Oh, wild detectives.
Okay.
Cool.
Birds without feathers will be showing 315 p.m. at the Kessler Theater on Sunday.
So you got time.
I've got time and everyone listening as time and you should be there because I'll be
there.
And if you've ever felt like a bird without feathers, it's your chance to not feel alone.
All right.
What let's talk about the films.
You guys can flip a coin.
Tell either one of you goes first.
Tell us what your films about.
When my film was about six broken individuals who gave away everything in order to receive
love.
And it's a dark comedy.
Oh, wow.
Isn't that funny?
You know what?
But you put dark comedy with it.
And that's the important thing.
That preferences and puts it in the right framework.
I feel like I have to because then people are in the audience feeling very bad or ashamed.
But I do think it's important not to feel ashamed that sometimes we all do feel alone
in that sense we are together.
Okay.
The power of cinema indeed.
And soul.
My film is about a drummer named Milford Graves.
He's been working since 1959.
He's also been my teacher for 15 years.
Oh, wow.
So this is really a labor of love that gained momentum, turned into a feature documentary.
Awesome.
Awesome.
Was it, how was that saying, hey, I want to do a documentary on you?
Well, it emerged more atypically and organically than that.
I didn't approach him with that idea, but I did start to record him and film him.
At first, more recording lessons that he was giving me just for my own benefit because
he's a really dynamic teacher and a dynamic individual.
And the things he was saying, I knew they were important and profound, but they became
more amplified with repeated listening and processing.
So I was really doing this from the perspective of a student, trying to understand my teacher
in a more deeper, more textured way.
And I think over time, I started to realize how profound the stuff I had was.
And I also saw other documentarians come and go over the years without really getting
it.
And about six years ago, Milford started sharing with me some of the material from his
private archive, which was documentation of inventing his own martial art in the 60s.
Totally unseen recordings of early tours in Japan where he was collaborating with
Mintonaka, one of the great butto dancers of Japan.
Once I saw that stuff, I realized I had a responsibility to help put it into a form
that people could see around the world and got to work about three years ago, started
working with the co-director of the film Neil Young, who came and we started shooting
together and editing together.
And the film has world premiere at IFFR Rotterdam in January, and then premiered here at South
by Southwest, and pretty much been on the road with the film since Rotterdam.
And now I'm here and love Dallas and really love the Texas theater.
Dallas and June's kind of an experience.
I'm digging it.
We didn't even have a spring this year.
We went straight from winter to summer.
There's Texas.
No, I'm enjoying it.
We're, you know, there's some, there's shade and...
Yeah, we're inside.
I think I did a nice pool.
I found water once.
Yes.
That was fun.
Yeah, we're a little concerned about the lack.
We're supposed to get some rain next week, but it keeps moving back a day.
Well, we have the movie theaters with all the film.
That's right.
And getting a chance to be...
For people that don't know that the Texas theater is, we talked about it last week on
our show.
This is a very historic building.
It's lovely.
It's an old school one screen theater, but it's got historical context too because this
was the theater that we Harvey Oswald was found and arrested in.
So it is a landmark and it's a gorgeous theater and you just get that cool feel.
But we've also got these other venues too where you guys are going to be watching films
as well.
Let's talk about, you said it's shown before.
Where is it going from here?
It's actually opening theatrically at the Metrograph Theatre in New York City on July 19th and
then at Gramley Royal Beverly Hills on July 27th.
From there, it's going to open theatrically nationally all over the country and I'll
still be going back and forth.
It's playing at the British Film Institute, South Bank, BFI South Bank on July 9th.
There's then more from Sonic Youth's going to introduce the film.
Very nice.
Oh yeah.
Yeah, so we're just going to keep going with the theatrical release and here and there
I'll probably do some more festivals as they emerge.
It's going to play in Germany at Doc Academy in Berlin in October.
And then there's some other really exciting screenings that I can't yet announce.
Totally.
You're still trying to get it all finalized.
Yeah, still working it all out and it'll be available on VOD on Amazon Prime by next February
on the latest.
Wow.
You've got the whole plan out.
I don't know if we got something that's that much planning in advance on our show before.
No, that's pretty awesome.
It's an impressive man.
Like I said, it's for my teachers so I'm trying to do my best.
What genre do you specialize in?
What genre do you specialize in from a playing standpoint?
Yes.
I'm also an electronic musician and part of the film addresses Milford Graves kind of parts
of his core musical cosmology which is recording the sounds of his own body and heartbeat and
using that material to make both music and also to influence the way he approaches drumming
and those were the main kind of lessons that I got to.
So the main takeaway for the drummers out there is throw away your metradome and listen
to your heart.
As a vocalist, yeah, I'm to click track as the worst thing in the world as a vocalist.
I'm like, I just need my drummer to play and I'm going to follow him.
I always tell my drummer, dude, I don't care what you do.
I'm following you.
Now, when you let's talk about your film a little bit, what brought you to that subject
matter?
Well, it's pretty deep.
I was in an abusive relationship unknowingly for over two years.
I was stripped away of self.
I think the light out of that is that I had to lose self to become who I was meant to be.
And finding actors and people who have been some part of me along the way, along my journey,
to show them in this film and give them compassion, a.k. accepting self, because you are a gift
always as you are, exactly as you are, I believe that fully.
And to find that through filmmaking and just make a movie in the first survival.
So I made this video.
So allow me to ask the obvious question, how much of this is autobiographical?
I mean, I make dark comedies.
I've made over 70 short films.
They all have a comedic element to it, finding out later.
That's how I have coped with life, which, you know, it's very, it's cool.
It's good to mix dark and light.
I agree.
Yeah.
And it's nice.
And I think to the question, would you say the question?
How much of this was autobiographical for you?
A lot of it was made up with, it's autobiographical, but it's also with a twist.
Like, yes, I've never had a phone sex in a restaurant, but I did have my boyfriend ask
me to do that.
And I just thought, man, wouldn't it be funny if I really did it?
Taking that and turning it is that, how was that for you to watch it happen as you're directing
it?
Yeah.
Was there moments that you kind of had to go, okay, I've got to walk away from this for
a minute?
Or was it more therapeutic for you?
It's therapeutic.
I mean, I was doing it with pure joy the whole time.
And I would say, there's moments where, for example, someone's getting their picture
taken and I'm during directing, I say, just throw the sheet over his head and apologize
a lot.
Say sorry a lot with the sheet over your head.
And I think that's hilarious on set.
And then I'm in the editing, because I also edited the film.
And I'm going, oh, oh my god, oh no, oh no.
And I think that's what the movie is about.
It's just like being able to show people in a visual way, like, oh, you might have been
tying your hands behind your back this whole time and maybe it's time to change.
Give yourself a way out.
How many times have you screened the film before Sunday?
We premiered at Slam Dance and we took home the Spirit Award.
Very nice.
Congratulations.
Thank you very much.
And we've gone to about seven or eight different festivals, including Brooklyn, and
took home the best aesthetic overall design and style.
And we're on our way to Munich and I don't know, the movie just keeps going.
And I think it is non-conventional, but I think everyone can relate to it because it is
so vulnerable and so pure.
And I think it's what a lot of people wish they could say out loud and that's why when
they leave.
Is this your first falling feature because you said you've done 70 shorts?
So I've made a ton of short films and this is my debut feature film.
And I think it's something special and I hope that people come out to the Castler Theatre
on Sunday at three o'clock because it's something to be experienced together for sure.
Have you been able to do a lot of Q&A as you've been doing the screenings?
Yes.
What's the question that made you pause the most to think about?
Because I mean, this seems like a very heavy material.
Yeah.
I like it when, I mean, I have a ton to answer to this.
I mean, I had a man yelling at the L.A. R. Clay Theatre saying, what do you want me to
feel?
Wow.
What do you want me to feel?
Really?
And I just said, I want you to feel exactly how you feel.
What do you feel?
What do you feel?
And he said, how do you, what did you want me to feel?
And I said, that you are valid as you are.
And I think there is a lot of that happening.
I think that's so beautiful that it is happening because I think a lot of people don't feel
valid as they are.
And I think that this film is allowing people to think about that.
All right.
I'm getting the high sign for you guys.
So I know you've got to go because it's almost go time for you.
We are all about, no, I'm not kidding.
Oh, I'm kidding.
I'm kidding.
Austin's about 180 miles away.
No thanks.
No, thank you.
We are about shameless self-promotion on this show.
So we want to make sure you guys get out your website, your social media, everything
else.
All right.
Sir, www.fullmantis.com for booking increase.
It's fullmantisbooking at gmail.com, and we're on Facebook, Milford Graves, fullmantis,
as well as Instagram and Twitter, all right?
My personal Instagram is Wendy McCollum, MCCOLM, and the website for the film is birdswithout
feathers.com.
You can see the trailer there.
And I hope to see you at the Kessler Theater at 3.15 p.m. on Sunday, this Sunday.
And then tonight, 7.30, tonight 8.30 at Wild Detectives, and again, July 13th at the Metrograph
Theater in New York City, July 27th at Gramley, Royal, Beverly Hills, and LA.
And Q&A after both screens is a sweet address.
We're there with feathers.
Go enjoy the evening.
Thank you guys so much for sitting down with us.
We are very appreciative.
Thank you.
We are live at the Turner House.
Oh, Cliff Film Festival, sir.
We're very excited to be here.
I just saw Bradbottre here, Brad from Fonds.
E-P-R.
One of our favorite people, one of our newest partners in business, as does to come out.
So we're excited to be here.
Don is just bringing them, it's a cavalcade of stars tonight, Don.
Hey, do you want a popsicle chat or a horchata?
Sure.
Okay.
I'll get another one, too.
Okay.
So I heard this rumor that Don's had popsicles.
Is that true?
Is that the rumor that's out there?
That's the buzz.
Okay.
I just had a key lime one.
It's so good.
Key lime is one of my favorite things in the world.
I don't care what Chick McGee says, because he calls out the great taste of air freshener and a pie.
And I think he's wrong.
And my wife is from England, and she had never had one before.
She came here.
She never had a key lime before she came here?
Never.
And even though it was a thing.
Yes.
My mother-
Our change of religion.
My mother introduced her to it, and she's like, this is the most amazing thing.
It's one of my favorite things in the world.
Yeah.
She went crazy.
Yeah.
Extra has a key lime pie gum.
That's amazing.
Yes.
Playground lasts about a four and a half seconds.
Yeah.
But that four and a half seconds is amazing.
It's pretty, it's pretty remarkable.
All right.
We've got new guests.
Please introduce yourselves to our audience.
Get right up on that microphone and talk into it.
My name is Morgan Caps.
And I'm here with my directing partner.
Ooh.
I'm Jill Ann Spitzmiller.
And we directed a film at the festival that will play tonight called Meow Wolf Origins Story.
Meow Wolf.
See?
This is my attention.
Yes.
Because it's Father's Day weekend, and I'm a cat father.
So.
And their mommy's out of town right now, so.
This is a big deal.
Well, they're not sure what they need to do because they are mommy's boys.
And.
You know, dad's cool to feed us, and he can love us when we want to.
But it's all about mommy, and mommy's been in Salt Lake City for four days.
So it's been a little rough.
How do you feel about that?
I'm okay with it.
You know, because.
You're not projecting under the cat.
Not at all.
I love my boys.
They just don't love me as much as I love them.
Okay, okay.
So let's talk about the film.
Tell us about it.
So the film takes us through this crazy odyssey of this art collective called Meow Wolf
that started in 2008 or thereabouts.
And they are based in Santa Fe.
And they were a group of young artists who just could not gain entry into the art world.
And Santa Fe, you might know, is sort of, you know, very she-she art market.
It's the third largest art market in the country.
And these young, you know, kind of outsider artists were having trouble getting into galleries
and things like that.
So they were like, bleep it.
Let's make our own thing.
And so they started.
It is destiny being the mother of adventure, right?
Yeah, exactly.
So, you know, what we've done is make a film about this 10-year journey that had so many ups and downs.
And really follow this group that has a surprise success story.
Yes.
That has already sent us.
Correct.
Earlier this portal in the art world that's really super profitable and unexpectedly and it was
an author goal and they've found themselves in this position to actually do some change,
make some change and it's pretty exciting.
So what brought you guys to it?
Well, I, um, I got involved as a volunteer about three years ago when I moved to Santa
Fe to work on another film and I was just trying to make friends.
And I'm sort of into this group.
It's hard for her. I love transparency. Transparency is one of my favorite things along with me. I just want you to like me.
I just mean someone to talk to.
And they did. They talked to me. Now, it was a really welcoming group.
They were building this thing that was described to me as a psychedelic disney land.
And I was like, okay, that's very interesting.
That sounds cool. In the desert. Why not?
In the desert, I didn't expect to be here. I intended to stay in Santa Fe for five months.
And once I got involved, I got the opportunity to start documenting what they were doing.
And it seemed worth it to stick around until the power, the cosmic forces led me to Jalan.
And we got to make this film together about this crazy group coming from both different perspectives on it.
So we kind of had this great opportunity to look at the group from inside in the outside and look at their story over the course of this 10 years together.
Because unlike Morgan, I'm a total square. And I was not a part of me.
I didn't really know that much about it. So she's not a square.
By the way, she is lying about that.
How long did it take you to film everything?
Well, they had been archiving. You know, they'd been filming themselves for a long time, cell phone videos.
And then when Morgan became involved, she started documenting something.
So it's hard to pinpoint exactly how long we were filming.
We shot a bunch of footage for the film as well as archival.
And that took us about four or five months.
But it was an insane amount of material to go through because not only did we run our own interviews, but we had two rounds of interviews that had happened before when the group had been documenting themselves on top of, you know, 10 years of pictures and clips and flyers and posters and, you know,
just kind of this crazy amalgamation of all sorts of different media.
And that was our biggest challenge was sort of filtering through, you know, a decade worth of crap.
The thing that's got me most intrigued because, you know, when you see, you know, the venue that it becomes, did the venue start to inspire the art, or did the art inspire the venue?
I mean, definitely the art inspired the venue.
I think the venue is sort of a byproduct of the spirit and ethos of the group.
So it was almost an accident, you know.
Everything had like a, it was almost like a symbiotic relationship between the artist, the art, and where the art displayed.
And I feel like we got wrapped up in this spirit, but there's this sort of like creative beast.
Like we always thought of like this beast that just rolls people into its orbit and pulls them in.
And then you never know exactly what's going to be spit out from that.
And you get to do your film tonight at the Texas Theatre.
Yes, we're so excited. The Texas Theatre is so cool.
Isn't it awesome?
Yeah, it's beautiful. It's so beautiful. And there's going to be DJs.
You guys get an after party too, I saw in the program.
It's going to be really, really cool.
Come to the Texas Theatre 915 tonight.
You're not working tomorrow. Come out tonight.
Yeah, it's Friday. It's Friday night, man.
And even if you are working.
Just take off.
Yeah, take off.
Do you want your life to be exciting or boring?
Yeah.
Have you guys had a chance to even like explore the area down there in the Bishop Arts District?
It's amazing.
It's some really cool stuff.
I'm looking enough to get to see some stuff. It is so cool.
I've never, neither of us have been to Dallas before and I'm loving it.
And what better part than to come in the middle of June?
We can handle the heat.
The moisture is welcome for me.
Well, the thing is, we're just getting started.
It's technically not summer yet.
And this is what frightens me.
Last year I was driving to a screening and my car read 118 and I was in the shade.
So yeah, I'm not looking forward to this summer at all in any way.
I'm from Florida.
So when I moved out here, I was like tropical climate.
I could handle summer.
No, sir.
No, sir.
No, sir.
No.
No, I did in August in Orlando.
That's when I was in the Navy going through boot camp.
And I was like, just do your worst.
Yeah.
I'm a Texan.
Yeah.
I go home and people are like, so what's Texas like?
I'm like, you see this thing that makes the trees move?
And they're like, breeze.
I'm like, we don't have time.
And if we do, it's like somebody's constantly following you around with a hairdryer.
Oh, that's hot.
A hot hairdryer.
And we didn't have a great winter.
I mean, we went straight from winter.
We had one.
There was no transition this year.
It's just been hot.
It was a very mild, brief winter.
I was doing summer.
But for where you guys are, I mean, New Mexico is just that dryer.
It's dry.
It's dry.
It's a dry heat.
It's dry heat, doesn't it say?
But we get snow in the winter and it's beautiful and powdery.
What's that like?
Yeah.
We get flurries like once a year.
And people treat it like it's the zombie and powdery.
Everything stops.
Everything's closed down the schools are closed.
Yeah.
I lived 28 miles from home to work and it took me three hours to get home.
Somebody dropped a snow cone on the street and traffic comes to a completed home.
People are glued to their TVs.
This is my school closed.
This is my school closed.
Yeah, fingers crossed, right?
So how many times have you screened a phone before tonight?
This will be like our third time.
Our third festival.
Yeah.
It's relatively new.
Does it get any easier?
Does it get any easier?
This festival is really fun.
I'm just not just from a nerve standpoint.
It does get easier every time for me.
Yeah, because the first time we screened it, we were literally like scratching each other's
arms and legs during the screening.
But yeah, we've calmed down a bit.
Yeah.
Where's it going from here?
Yeah, it's going to a number of other festivals and New York City and all kinds of interesting
things.
Salvees.
Salvees.
This is me, Owl.
So it's not going to be normal.
Right.
Yeah.
So it's all in the works.
Yeah.
And then it will be available on VOD in mid-November.
See, this is why I love the internet.
Yeah.
Number one, it gives us a show.
But beyond that.
And finally, the side of my point is with the advent of things like VOD.
It's giving so many filmmakers an opportunity to get their arc out there.
Yes.
That may not get the option otherwise because the technology's gotten so cheap, you can film
things a lot cheaper than you used to.
B, you get the venue that you can go worldwide like that because of the internet.
And that's why I love, we've got to see such great art in some cases that have become
bigger than themselves because of the ability of things like VOD.
Are you feeling like you're like, you're like, you're still going to wait like two
and a half hours to this thing?
How are you feeling right now?
Oh my god, we're so nervous.
But are you just like, are you happy now, Rob?
No, you've ruined it.
I'm scared.
I am the ruiner.
That is my name.
No, it's going to be fine.
We're excited.
Yeah.
We're really excited.
This has been Dallas's super positive and excited to have us here so we are just over
the moon.
And we love sharing this story.
Yeah.
It's a rocking, amazing time.
It is a fun movie to watch.
Yeah.
I still have a good, I've seen it.
God, I don't even want to know how many times.
But I still have so much fun watching you.
And Q and A after I assume?
Yes.
Yes.
And then the after party after that.
It's the same.
And then sleep till you get up.
Yeah, we're going to sleep in tomorrow.
Yeah.
The kids are at home.
Yeah.
All right.
I'm getting the high signs.
Okay.
So before we let you go, we are all we have founded this show on shameless self promotion.
So give our listeners everything.
Social media websites.
Where can they go?
Yeah.
The easiest thing is to go to meowulf.com slash documentary.
And you can find everything there.
All right.
Meowulf.
Come out tonight.
If you're in the Dallas Fort Worth area.
It's at the Texas Theater, man.
Why would you not want to go to the Texas Theater?
It's an amazing place, 9.15 tonight, and you get the party with them afterwards.
We're really fun.
Exactly.
Ladies, thank you so much for hanging out with us.
Thank you for having me here.
You are listening to the Clubhouse podcast.
We are live right now at Turner House during the Oak Cliff Film Festival.
Don's got another popsicle.
You know what I mean?
You know what I mean?
You know what I mean?
You know what I mean?
You know what I mean?
I was like, what is he doing?
One of them left their phone behind.
No, I know, but.
Hey, Don, I can't do the popsicle thing.
But if you wanted to get me another water, that would be amazing.
What do you want the regular or the grapefruit?
There's grapefruit water?
Yeah.
And they got like a lime one, too.
Yes.
Which one?
Yes.
I got popsicle.
I will sample all three.
I'm on my second pie.
I know you are.
Paste yourself, sir.
If we weren't titling this live at the Oak Cliff Film Festival,
I would probably title it.
Don has a popsicle.
Quote slash.
I got to go.
Please.
Quote.
Okay.
Don't.
Just don't.
You can't.
As you would say to Faith.
Notice I'm at your husband.
Notice I'm leaving the dropboard alone.
Thank God.
Faith is here.
You go, that's your husband.
That is your husband.
And Faith, I know you're listening.
That is your husband.
We have another guest joining us, sir.
Please speak right in that microphone.
Introduce yourself.
Hello.
I'm Floyd Lloyd.
And I'm an actor in the Pentecost.
I'm just going to be showing in like 15 minutes.
Oh jeez.
Bishop Arts Center.
So yeah, I don't think I'm the first one playing,
so I probably got a little bit of time.
So it's part of the short.
Yeah, it's part of the short.
Yeah.
Okay.
Tell us about the Pentecost.
It's a really good film.
It was shot on 16 millimeter.
And it's very similar to Tree of Life.
It has a Tree of Life feel to it.
And one of the cooler moments is it showed it the UT.
It's a UT film.
And the instructor came up and told us that he actually submitted
that to Terence Malik after he saw it.
Oh wow.
And so I don't know if he'll actually watch it or if anything,
he'll come of it.
But it's a great thing.
If one thing we know about this man,
there's no such thing as predictability
and telling Malik of the same sentence.
Absolutely.
And believe it or not, I've never actually met him.
I'm always hearing stories like I talked to the guy that talked to him
and friends that have like had films like Friday's Child got,
like a big boost from Hill and stuff like that,
which I worked on a little bit of that also.
But yeah, he's a very evasive guy.
I'm trying to talk to somebody over here.
I know, but he's instructing me on how to open popsick.
Done.
Done.
We're interviewing a dude here.
Okay.
I apologize.
No problem.
So how many times have you been able to screen the film?
This is the third time that I know of.
So it played, well actually probably fourth.
So it played UT.
Part of the final project from the students.
And then it also played Texas Under the Star.
And it played the West Texas Film Fest,
which was really cool because I'm from Midland originally born in Pekis.
So went out there and was able to watch that.
So it's been a really fun ride.
Awesome.
What's the run time on the shorts?
Five minutes.
Well, this one's five minutes.
Wow.
Yeah, it's really short.
When you're dealing with 16 new messages,
you're going to miss it.
Very much.
It's a very small tree of life.
Yeah.
It's the twig of life.
It's the shrubbery of life.
You were bringing us the shrubbery of life.
It was the switch of life.
It was the switch of life.
Oh, dear.
Nine people got that reference.
So you're just up here enjoying the festival then I guess.
Yeah, yeah.
It was great.
I've been a struggling actor for a long time.
So yeah, basically saw this posting.
You know, they're looking for actors.
So I auditioned.
And it was Katherine Hopper as the director.
And she's very like really detailed oriented.
And like it's stretched out over a while.
You know, and like I was a volunteer at Sundance Film Fest
every year.
And so I was driving like a big group of us all drive
Delay afterwards.
And so I'm like in the middle of the drive.
And she wants to do a FaceTime interview like for the film.
And so while you're in the car.
We're like going across Nevada.
This friend of mine is driving.
She does like arts and set design and stuff.
Pay no attention to the gangster wrap in the background.
Or fine.
If you met Amanda, I showed my phone.
And so it was actually really cool memory.
You know, just driving across the desert.
You know, and she's for this.
I love the road trip.
There's nothing in the world like road tripping.
Yeah, it's really, it can be nice.
I mean, last time I went to one of my classroom unions in Florida.
I drove it.
And I drove it by myself.
Yeah.
And it's so therapeutic.
Yeah.
It's just you and the radio in the road.
Let's just do this thing.
Yeah.
You don't have car trouble.
Yeah, that's.
Don't be bad.
I'm just.
And there's no barbecue places to have chainsaws or later.
Well, like when we drove from here in Dallas to Southern California in 85.
We got about halfway there in a brand new oldspel bill.
Towing a camper trailer.
And the car blew up in Tucson.
And we were stuck there for like three days waiting for the car to get fixed.
We literally felt like the Griswold family.
Yeah.
It's sinking.
Yeah, car trouble can totally ruin the mood.
Yeah.
What kind of actors inspire you?
I really like Tom Hanks.
Yeah, I mean, he just can know like characters like Forest Gump and stuff.
I just love it.
You know, I don't know what it is about him.
But like every movie I see, he's still Tom Hanks, but it doesn't bother me.
There's just something about his style that I just, I can roll with it.
It's a very real, earthy acting.
And one of the nicest guys ever from what I'm being told.
I've actually met a guy that knew him.
So I've got friends in LA.
And so like actually this last time I went, this guy does some stand-in work for him.
And so he knows him.
And so anyway, he introduced him to this other friend of mine, Jeff Hutchinson.
Because I volunteer of his Sundance every year.
And so anyway, Jeff, just like at this party, you know, and all of a sudden Tom Hanks runs up.
And he's like, I know you're Jeff Hutchinson and you volunteer at Austin at the film festivals.
And I think that's so cool, you know.
Yes, yes, I am.
So he's all proud.
And so then the next thing, you know, he just like gets distracted and just walks away.
And he said like his assistant was like, I hate it when he does that.
He makes you feel like a king and then he just walks away.
He seagulls on you, just dropping.
Yeah.
Just the top of the world to the bottom of the heap, you know.
But yeah, he sounds really cool.
My niece actually went to Northwestern with his son as well.
I mean, she didn't really know him or anything, but he knew of him, you know.
This will write in the middle of the summer movie season.
What kind of movies are you looking forward to right now?
I don't know.
I mean, I like, I like really kind of more serious.
I mean, I stumbled across, breathe just recently, you know,
this Australian surfer movie.
I like kind of real life stories, you know.
I mean, that one, it was shot in Australia and it's just like, you know,
you know, these teenagers surfing and just living life.
And I just love something like that.
That doesn't suck.
We just watched a movie recently called A Viewer of American Animals.
Yeah, I saw that at Sundance.
Was that not awesome?
Yeah, and it's true story, you know.
So I like it like this is not based on a true story.
Yeah.
This is a true story.
And I just, and we did our review, we talked about it and how it's so different
because it blurs the line between documentary and narrative.
Yeah.
Which was, I thought was really, I've never seen it pulled off in that way before.
Yeah.
And I loved that we can have a summer movie season where I get to watch stuff
explode.
But I can also see cool movies like that.
Right.
That I don't have to wait until October when everybody's on their awards push.
Yeah.
What kind of movies, if you, I hate to call it guilty pleasure, but what's the kind of movie
like you're in the mood for something and you just, this is the movie I go to?
What's your go to?
Yeah, I don't know.
I mean, I love like slasher films at times, you know.
I mean, they can be fun.
This man's wheelhouse.
Yeah.
But I like, I like everything, honestly.
I mean, and I watch, I don't care.
I'll risk seeing a bad movie just to just for that little glimmer of hope, you know.
Oh, sometimes they're so bad, they turn around to goodness.
Yeah, no, yeah.
What was the one?
There was one like that too.
Slips in my mind right now.
But yeah, it happens all the time.
And the funny thing, like, I was in line at Sundance for a film one time.
And these girls, like, it was a super long line, you know, stand by line.
And it was like an hour we're in line.
The entire time, you know, there's like, I don't even know how many films showing.
And all they could talk about was this one film, like how horrible it was.
And they're just crying, laughing at how bad this film was.
And I was just like, if I could ever make that film, I would be a happy guy.
Because it's like, all these other films just got pushed aside.
And all they could do is just laugh about that once.
It's all about having fun.
If you're not having fun, you're not doing it right.
Exactly.
It's entertainment.
So apparently I've lost my internet connection.
Oh, no.
Oh, okay, it's not even on my thing anymore.
Hey, Brad, we've lost the internet.
Like, it's not even on my selections for Wi-Fi.
We're going to keep going because we're going to record anyway.
Because this is going to iTunes.
We're just going to keep moving.
Are we still good, Don?
Yeah.
Okay, I'm just watching you for time, brother.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What can you look at going back?
What was the movie that you saw that said, I want to do this?
Like, what movie inspired you to be coming after?
You know, I just always wanted to do it.
And I remember, like, as a kid, like, in front of a black and white TV.
And I remember asking my dad, it's like, how do you do that?
I want to do that.
And he's just like, I think it was some puppet show.
And he's like, we got to learn to talk without moving your mouth.
Or something.
I'm like, what?
But I don't know what it is.
I just like a way to connect and relate.
And I just always had his eye.
And it's funny because, you know, the Mr. Rogers films out now.
I've seen that yet.
I haven't seen it on like time.
It is nothing short of brilliance.
Because I grew up watching the Dallas International Film Festival.
And yes.
Like the part, you know, the previewer, the little kids there.
And he's like, you know, I feel blue sometimes.
Oh my God.
But I feel blue now.
It's just like such a great moment, you know?
know it's waiting you see it because there is a huge payoff yeah I'm gonna I'm
definitely I'll be watching it for sure soon as possible it is it is so worth
your time we're getting the high signs but before we let you go will you give us
the shameless self-promotion where can people get a hold do you think they want
for you to work for that oh what just as a sideline not to do with this film but
I have a Floyd Lloyd rocks video on YouTube go to Floyd Lloyd rocks and yeah
it's like it's kind of got a whole life to itself also but check that out all
right well best of luck to you this evening and thank you for sitting down with
this man yeah we're gonna keep it moving because that's what we do we have
another guest I mean I'm telling you we have had no breathing time let me see
if I'm up if I got it here I gotta learn how to click things properly I'm
still not seeing it but while I said we're just gonna keep it moving because
we're still recording so we're good there so welcome to show introduce yourself
if you would my name is Jason Rimer and one of the founders of the Oakland
Film Festival in how many years now we're in year seven you're seven yeah yeah
could you pick a nicer area please for us to do yes we like it you know I live
right on the street this is gorgeous yeah it's great this facility it I feel
like I feel underdressed I'm gonna be honest because it's such a beautiful
night area I mean it's and tomorrow you guys are having an event in the very
room we're incorrect oh I don't know that are you that's something there was
an event tomorrow night we usually do on Fridays we almost I mean we've always
done the the Turner House cocktail hour which I was just actually telling
Scott who's the chairman of the this it's like a non-profits though it but it
was really supposed to be a one-year event this specific spot but it's
become really really popular and a great deal has to do with the fact that's a
beautiful house and people like you know got the troppo Chico troppo
cheap yeah here you got steel city if you have to kill it it's probably gonna
work out oh I missed a key at least for a while I'm pre-diabetic I can't drink
anymore but I do miss tequila so I'm not and I don't so yeah yeah what what
was the can you talk about the genesis of this film festival what brought it
about oh it it really is I mean like I said I'm one of the owners of the
involve with the Texas theater and aviation cinemas and we had been doing
programming the Texas theater there was what most people consider art house
cinema since 2010 but there's loads and loads of things that we can't program
for long stretches like normal films come out so really the film first came
out of trying to boil out of that down into a compacted weekend of things that
we thought were interesting that maybe we could turn people on to that they
might not have seen or would be able to see somewhere else this was you know
eight eight years ago roughly so there really wasn't as much Netflix and you
know there weren't as many places to see things as easily as you can today well
and I think even though that exists I love that platforms like Amazon and Netflix
and now even movie pass sure is producing films but they're giving them a
theatrical one too because there's nothing like sitting in a movie theater
no especially when you live here and you're lucky enough to have something like
the Texas theater we're pretty proud of it yeah it's that's pretty great and it's
I mean we it's kind of a civic duty in a weird way it's like that we I mean
we're certainly proud of what we've accomplished there but it really we
Barack and I talk a lot about we're more in the business of historic
preservation we're just we're entertaining people with things that we think are
interesting and very often people are bringing things to us that are
interesting but more than anything it's it's a historic preservation project
that just happens to be entertaining as well is there anything in the festival
this year that as you were programming completely took you off guard oh god
there's always stuff I mean there's a very small movie called Tigers and
I'm afraid that is doing a festival run right now but it's there's always movies
in the festival circuit that rumors start to build that it's really only word
of mouth these are now movies that are being looked at by big distributors
that those types of film negotiations are largely gone for films like that
and Tigers are not afraid it's more of those films that you just don't see
it seems like a very average it's it's horror is not the right word but it's a
thriller little kids in Mexico City it's a kind of a thriller among kids that are
in this incredibly violent background but it's through their eyes so they see
surrealist things happen in the way kids imagine and it doesn't it doesn't hit
you on the head with it you just don't you know blood becomes a little
animation you know once you seize a woman as a little girl it sees a horrific
murder covered up and a piece of blood follows her home and runs around the wall
makes it a little doubt it's crazy things are happening and you're you're not
being hit on this is not a Pixar movie right as a tiny tiny film that someone
sat on the computer and made this animation a painstakingly and that was one
of the movies that we all collectively like this is movies incredible but no one
was really talking about it outside of the festival world and that's why I love
film festivals yeah because you get to see these kinds of things yeah you know we
are both one of the things that unites us is our love of film Chad and I've been
friends for now gosh probably going on 23 24 years somewhere in there and we
just talked about recently we talked about the you know they've read they're
doing spawn with Jamie Foxx but the first film really that's the first time
that he and I ever hung out the animation we saw though the film with Michael
Jay White oh well okay yeah I was I was serious yeah but they're saying
even with the Jamie Foxx when you're not going to see him a lot so there's
men Nick Farlin's directing so yeah get ready for an R rating and kick ready
to probably go to therapy it's interesting time you know because you're you're
seeing R rated comic books suddenly Deadpool of course is the most famous
recently but things are getting more I don't think we're far off from an R rated
Star Wars to be honest with you I think it's coming soon like I thought that
Rogue One was really gonna be pushing the on low I was I was looking for some
edginess to yeah I mean it got close yeah definitely got close I mean I
it's I'm sure it's nivety in my own nostalgia but Empire Strikes Back felt
scary when I was a kid yeah and the new ones feel a little a little too safe it'd
be nice to see someone bringing some well and I think Rogue One on a certain
level did that yeah I totally agree you know and the ending of Rogue One it's
kind of like the ending of Infinity War yeah it's I the fact that people were
so shocked I'm like how did you not know it was like Captain Kennedy had to come
out and do an interview where she was like there's no sequel we're not doing
a Rogue One sequel I'm like you already have it it's called episode 4 it's only
the most famous movie ever made it literally takes place 13 seconds after Rogue One
yeah the fact that we have to force feed people that you can you point to a film
that that made you a fan of film oh God I mean the cliche thing is this talk
about Star Wars I mean that's certainly I mean I was born in 72 so that was a
hit the right spot for many Gen X kids that are now in their 40s like myself
I can relate to that you know what I mean yeah it sounds so cliche now but it's not at all
not only is not us because we can't yeah I mean but it really is true like for me was
King the 33 King Kong yeah is what made me fascinated with film it Star Wars is
what maybe fall in love yeah there was a next level thing I mean I saw those
the other way around like Star Wars is the first movie I remember seeing in its
entirety yeah it was right before I turned four it's for me that was jaws I have a
weird connection to that too like that it was Star Wars for sure but one of the
first movies that I really blew me away in the theater as a young man was a boy
it was time man it's which I loved I was and Adam Goldberg on the Goldberg
he has that poster in his room I was super worked up because we relate and we
walked into that first scene when he's in the bedroom and the night comes to
the wall and I was so what did I miss because then you couldn't rent it like
like so I had to go see it again of course but I instantly fell in love with
Terry Gilliam yeah that's what you saw Gilliam become it's made a lot of sense
that I saw Terry Gilliam and Star Wars in the same bracket and then jaws
was it my parents were they weren't super liberal with scary movies really but
jaws was certainly like you should see jaws was because I was fascinated with
sharks like I was I was a shark and I just love the fact that the Alamo does
screenings of that on the water oh yeah like what yeah that's a
move it's great sell out every year they do it and you know what I got for
that no thanks well I mean it's a pre I mean it's you know it's it's not like
you're in literally an open water somebody's gonna be that guy yeah that's all
I'm saying some of the last time you're in the ocean swimming away from the
jetty away from the beach and didn't think about jobs I mean the last time I was
in California I was swimming in the ocean my better happy was like I'm gonna
stay right here I'm fine and I was going further and further out and one of
those surf guys came by I was like go back to shore and I was like what he's
like just go back to shore and I went back to shore and turn around you can and
one of the wakes you could see the shark oh yeah you need to hear what I love
and this is why I love surfers so much they're like we're good and they sit
out there are you there's good not careless there's no reason anything that's
you're really looking forward to right now well we're probably we're actually
missing around a passion mark passion of general arc is right now a live score
and then you were just talking to the ladies from the meowall movie that was
another one that I was a big proponent of what about from a mainstream
standpoint oh you mean like what's coming down the
outside of the festival because I don't want to make you pick a favorite child
that's just cruel well there's little there's little I like action genre
stuff sometimes like the second part of secario I just saw already that's the
one that's coming out the the on the twenty night tutorial because it's
incredible this week yeah Jurassic next week secario the week after that I'm a
fan of that's my kind of I love that first film so much it was one of those
that like I shouldn't enjoy this as much as I'm enjoying this yeah I saw the
trailers and I was like yeah in the end I'm the wasp after that and the
end of the wasp is the week after that yeah I'm I usually those movies I
wait for the crowds to a bit a little bit I'm not one of those I actually
haven't seen infinity wars yet which shocks most people but God bless you sir
was the way instead of show at a at a local high school Garland high school has
its own film department yeah and I was shocked and that movie had been out
three or four weeks by that point yeah number of high school kids like you
know what I haven't even seen it yet I'm dying to I just have it I'm like you
guys haven't seen it it's crazy I think we we all know we can see it yeah if I
just wait a little bit I can you know it'll be on Netflix or I'll be able to
just download it from because it'll you know Disney will release it VOD
three weeks before the physical hobby yeah that's it that to me that's a
weird dick I don't get that I mean the thing that pops my mind to you is not
gonna be out for another year and a half but we just got a request to show a
movie that hasn't been shot yet we just contacted us about showing the 70
millimeter Terrentina's maybe last film and we were really excited to say yes
there was another announcement of somebody that joined that cast this week yeah
that's pretty crazy was it Margin yes yes it was yes it was it's pretty nuts
so they haven't shot it yet but we've already booked it in two theaters that's
awesome so it's that's pretty exciting but that's one of those long and then
this is his last film assuming he's not doing Star Trek I think he's gonna
start I do too I don't think his retirement is gonna stick like
Sutterberg's has been really not a success like he's still he's filmed this
year Don got Don actually got to see that on the same yeah they shot the entire
thing on an iPhone right and it but it's like a sixth film I think since he
retired yeah it's not it's not really working out you're not winning every
time yeah he retires the same way professional wrestlers for
actually add to the the opposite is that the Nicholas Wine and Reffens TV series
I'm excited about because that's he's never done a TV series so I'm super excited
about that but it's not a film per se but you know we got you sitting here tell
us who you are man my name is Scott get right up on the microphone get right
upon it my name is Scott Chase there we go I am the host for this evening I guess
because I'm the Emeritus board chair for Turner House and Turner House is very
very very happy always to host they'll clip film festival it's a great event
we meet lots of interesting people we show this old house it was built in 1912
to a lot of people and they're always want to come back in fact some people
come back and film videos and music videos and so we're always happy to host
one of the first guys I ran into when I got here to set up could not have been
more cordial if he tried helping me figure out how we're gonna do this whole
thing so I thank you for that sir well you're welcome I I'm also in the
past I've been the board chair for the Oakcliffe Chamber of Commerce and we
are ecstatic that Texas theater in the Oakcliffe Film Festival brings such
great reputation to Oakcliffe and Jason and Barack are great friends of mine and Jason
had to take off but we thank him for being with us as well I'm always happy to help
them and that's why we do this every year we've done it for six years let's talk
about this beautiful home a hundred and six years old yes a hundred and six
years old was built by the Blake family who were music entrepreneurs and they
used to have concerts on the front lawn he later moved and the house itself fell
on hard times during the depression and World War II became a church in the late
forties I can see that yeah and 1957 the Oakcliffe Society of Fine Arts bought it
and turned into Turner House Mrs. Turner was the founder of the Oakcliffe Society of
Fine Arts in 1927 and so we have continued the art program we have Salon series
here where we have architecture speakers we have music programs we have jazz we
have ragtime we have art shows for rising stars here in Dallas and one of the
things we like to do though is host events like the Oakcliffe Film Festival
happy hour which what a great time like you know how I know this place is way too
classy for me how's that they're doing croquet outside it has a door well
there's that but still but this is it's such a beautiful facility and you
coming here's like a hundred and six years old but it's really well-capped number
one number two like back then you didn't have a lot of the modern conveniences
and when you go and sometimes you go into houses this old like it's the middle of
June it's a billion degrees outside I could not be more comfortable and I am
amazing we welcome you guys here today we've never had a podcast from here the
first one another first another first and you can come back anytime we would be
honored to do so we're we're gonna have like a seating on top of the mid-stairs
oh wow there's like a landing as well the thing with the seats up there from
Montana this we were sick of plumbing out there it's a tiffing glass window
oh geez you know what you what you need to do is bring your camera and do a
podcast and a webinar oh yeah we've always said we have the perfect faces for
radio not audio how much just just audio we don't know we will be doing video
coming up here in about eight weeks right actually ten weeks
for there we're we're involved with an organization called who needs sleep and
it said we're going to be doing an internet telephone it says 36 hour internet
telephone and we're going to be doing one hour of our show from there and it
benefits two cancer charities cancer communities north Texas and cook children's
fort worth oh no no no both and we did it over the holidays and we raised
$13,000 in 36 hours and we're going to do it again Labor Day weekend
before we use to wrap this thing up are we right yeah we we have to think one
person you know Brad's like nope I'm saying right I think him well one of our
again we do this earlier one of our newest partners in business who have been
nothing but gracious to us Brad's doing great work yeah that funds PR
bonds PR I can't thank you know for letting us be a part of this thing because I
have this is amazing I have a very personal connection I've got a very
deep personal connection to this neighborhood both my parents went to Adams and
high school good good good uh and you know I'm a huge Stevie Ray Vaughan fan and
he went right down here sunset yeah I mean on my way here I passed the spot where
my father's house used to stand on youing oh well this house you know is the
Turner House because the original Turner House was destroyed by i-35
oh over 50 years ago but out of that imminent domain money we were able to buy
this yeah yeah well let me ask since you've been I mean you you obviously
know more about this house than I will I you probably forgotten more of this
house but I'll ever know what is in your opinion what's the coolest event
you've ever hosted here we had a 100th year anniversary of the house in 2012
and we did a ragtime whoo nice very nice Matt Tolentino
and his ragtime band and it was fantastic give us fantastic well is there is there any
place that people that people want to get in touch with you or get in touch with
using the house for someone that that they can host how can they get a hold of you
my phone number is 214 8800404 Scott Chase or Scott. Chase at fghwlaw.com
all right because we're we're getting the high sign that it's about time to wrap up
so thank you so much for sitting with us sir this has been great and thank you for having us
this has been a beautiful place probably I will I'm gonna say one of the most beautiful rooms we've
ever done this in absolutely yeah we gotta come back next year we will be here all right anything
else where we wrap this up sir no no let's let these guys get to what they need to do all right so
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