Live From The 2017 USA Film Festival

It is 701 on the East Coast.
It is 401 on the West Coast.
It is the 28th of April in the year of our Lord 2017.
Season 7, Episode 41, 391 times.
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But again, we're out on the road, as you could probably tell from the ambient noise around
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My name is Rob.
I am the executive producer of the Clubhouse podcast.
And this is our fifth road show in six weeks.
It's been a heck of a stretch for the show.
Joining me to my ride as he tends to do on a beautiful Friday evening is a man who's
almost been back in the work force a month creeping up on it.
He is Chad.
Welcome, sir.
It's a hard thing to wrap your head around.
Hey, man.
Time flies.
It's all I'm saying.
And across from him is the official fact checker of this show and a man who's walking
path is not going to be nearly the distance it was a week ago at this time, plus a couple
of hours.
You may know I'm his fondongo, but his momma named him Don Ford.
I'm going to call him Don Ford.
Welcome, sir.
You had to remind me of that.
Oh, no.
I didn't even remind you.
We want to thank everybody at the Rodex Film Festival last Friday night for having us out.
We had a great time interviewing the night away as the kids like to say, but we're out
again tonight.
We're at the Angelica Film Center, a place that I think I might have to start paying
rent to before too much longer as much as we're here.
But it's one of our favorite places to be.
It is the 47th annual USA Film Festival this weekend.
We're going to be here hanging out for a few hours.
Maybe a couple hours or so, just like we do each and every week.
We hope that you come by and see us.
We're at Mockingbird Station.
So come on by some great films that we're going to be talking to.
Hope we get some interviews.
There's a red carpet right in front of us.
We are upstairs right next to the concession stand.
So I get to have that wonderful smell of popcorn that takes me back to my youth.
We do have some corrections and updates from last week's show.
We talked about the two infinity films being a combined billion dollar budget.
I found out there's actually that's combined with the next Avengers film.
But that's still $330 million a piece, I don't know why he.
Also Michael Fassbender, not a short man.
He is apparently six feet tall.
Where did we say he was short?
I said he was short last week.
He's six feet tall.
But I'm still standing by my opinion that he's not James Bond.
But the more I'm thinking about the Tom Hardy thing, the more I'm kind of getting
sold on it.
I'm not there yet.
But I'm closer than I was.
The Tom Hardy thing.
Tom Hardy is Bond.
Oh, oh.
Talk about that a little bit.
Also, Cloak and Dagger has a 10 episode order for next year and it's going to be on ABC.
So I'm going to be interested to see how they handle that really.
And we talked about the new John Cooper Mellon camp album.
It was actually originally a duet's album with Carly and Carter stepped daughter of Johnny
Cash.
But it turned into something else that some of the songs with her are still on it.
So you got that going for you, which is nice.
We do want to cover.
We do want to cover.
We do want to cover.
We do want to cover a couple of quick sports headlines and now this week Dale Earnhardt
Jr will be retiring at the end of this NASCAR season.
But he's in his mid 40s, which apparently is about the right age for that to happen.
We know that he'll be going straight into the booth.
No doubt in my mind.
Oh, naturally.
So congratulations to Dale on getting ready to retire.
Tom and Tom.
I'm going by by.
Okay, we've got to do my stuff.
We're going to go do what Don does.
Okay.
And there he goes.
Like the wind.
No, the wind tends to be a little quiet.
Well, depends on the wind.
We kept me up the other night.
We've been having some strange weather here in the Dallas Fort Worth area.
Yeah, and it's going to get even stranger.
Oh, let's talk about some television headlines.
And the first one that's really kind of bummed my wife out.
After two seasons, W.G.N. has canceled the outside.
It's one of her favorite shows.
She was a little bummed out, but she'll be fine.
Also going the way of the dinosaur.
And we talked about this a little bit last week, but they were flirting with it earlier this week.
It is now official.
Powerless is done.
Yeah, pulled it from the schedule.
It is officially gone from NBC's schedule.
I watched it.
I watched every episode.
I don't know if that makes me proud of myself or not, but I watched every episode.
I was a struggle.
That was a struggle.
So have you heard this young justice story?
Uh, that has got a new title.
It is called Young Justice Outsideers.
Uh-huh.
It's going to deal with metahuman trafficking and a quote genetic arms race.
But it's not going to be on Netflix, like we thought.
DC is doing their own streaming content next year.
The two launch titles are going to be season three of Teen Titans.
And also, I'm sorry, season three of Young Justice.
And the live action Titans show that was going to be on TNT, but TNT turned down.
Oh, okay.
So that's now going to be on DC's new streaming service next year.
So it's going to be proprietary.
They're going to have like an app that they're going to make available.
They don't cook for sure yet.
I'm sure it will probably be something of its ilk.
It will be an app that you download and you'll be able to get it like a channel on your
Roku or whatever.
I wonder.
I wonder.
What do you wonder, sir?
We wrote the book of love.
If maybe that's where they might migrate the CW content.
If the ratings start to dim.
They could, but CW has got their own deal too, because remember they did that
Vixen animated series.
Just watched you.
Yeah.
On what I can remember exactly what they're calling that.
But now she's a part kind of sort of a part of legends.
If people want to call her, that's like her predecessor, I guess.
The tick has a debut date of August the 25th on Amazon Prime.
So it is locked and loaded and ready to go.
Without Warburton.
I don't know.
Yeah.
You kind of personify that character.
Do you have any interest in this new Nat Geo series genius dealing with the
Einstein?
Yes.
Nat Geo has renewed it for a season two.
I thought this was just the one-off thing.
But apparently this is a series.
I didn't even realize it was a, I thought it was a mini series at best.
No.
It's going to get a whole season next year.
And CMT has renewed Nashville for season two.
Sixteen episodes.
Not going to spoil anything for anyone.
But they had a major plot twist this year.
That was so major and I kid you not.
Such a major plot twist my wife cried.
Well, that'll tend to happen when major plot twist involving that tend to happen.
So you can ask me off here and I'll tell you.
Oh, I know what it is.
Let's see what else do we have.
And that's how major that plot test was.
I found out about this show.
The path has been given season two by Hulu.
So if you're fans of that show, congratulations to you.
The Guy Richie movie that is the double on Tondra title that if we say,
I'm going to give a like a third grader.
Hulu has given that a second season.
And you know who's in that?
The Rupert Grit.
Is in that.
Oh, Ron Weesley.
Oh, yeah.
That's right.
Also renewed the stop motion animation from robot chicken super mansion.
Has been given season three.
Have you watched any of that?
I saw a thing on it on geeking out.
That's the only reason I recognize the title.
Let's see.
And boy, this next story has kind of gotten the the internet community up in arms a little bit.
Have you heard about this 13 reasons why?
I've heard of it.
I don't know anything about it.
It's a Netflix series.
It's based on a young adult novel.
The story of it is I've had people that are raiding about the show.
And the story of it is a girl takes her own life teenage girl.
And she sends out these mixed tapes to 13 people.
And the each mixed tape explains to them why she feels their responsible.
And they have to listen to the whole thing.
And if they don't like she's got it set.
So it'll go to the authorities.
You're gone.
A people are going crazy over the show.
But Netflix has given it a season two.
And a lot of people are saying the way this thing ends.
It's got kind of a finite ending to it.
So they don't know how they're going to expand this thing for a second season.
Maybe a lot of crow, maybe it just passes onto somebody else.
All I know is it's affecting one of my shows.
Because the kid that plays Reggie on Riverdale is also on this.
He has had to leave Riverdale because of shooting schedule conflicts.
The problem is they're having to recast Reggie because the plan is to have a bigger role
for Reggie on Riverdale season two.
By the way, great episode last night.
Still haven't watched it.
Brother, you got to get caught up.
I'm telling you.
You're going to watch the first episode.
And then you're going to call me.
You're going to go dude.
I hate you because now I'm walking into my house for the rest of the weekend.
And it will be on Netflix.
I believe we have to next.
The whole season.
The whole season will be.
So some of it might be there now.
I don't know for sure.
You might have to go to the CWF though, right?
I don't know if it goes all the way back or not.
Well, it's not.
And if you don't have a cable provider, you might have to pay for it.
Okay.
So if you already have Netflix, I would do it that way.
Okay.
Because that's a lot of these.
A lot of these network apps, the problems that you have is.
You can watch two episodes free, but then you have to pay for it.
Unless you have a cable provider.
Good friend of the show, Dev Shiro just walked by.
A staple of the film festival as the kids like to say.
CBS has renewed the detour for season three.
Good things about the show.
Got a big bag of nothing.
So I was talking to somebody recently who's a huge fan of this.
The magicians on sci-fi.
I see that advertised.
It's been renewed for season three.
Have you watched Badlands yet?
Yeah, bits and pieces of it.
What are you thinking so far?
Oh, I'm digging it.
All right.
Because it's getting season three.
And it's given even more episodes than season two.
Season one was six episodes.
Season two, which we're halfway through now, is 12 episodes.
Next season for season three is going to be a 16 episode season.
And the weird thing about this second season of Into the Badlands for me is
It's doing this roller coaster thing.
Or it's like one episode action action action action action action action action.
Next episode a lot of storytelling.
Third episode action action action action action action action action action action.
So they're doing this every other episode thing.
That's this past week's episode for me.
Kind of board me a little bit.
But it finished strong.
It's like walking dead does that a lot.
So I guess AMC's exactly.
I think that's their formula.
Oh, speaking of shows of geek nature.
This Sunday is the first episode of American Gods on stars.
Yeah, clume in on this.
I don't know what time about it.
It's it's game.
It's game.
It's game and source material.
He is involved.
Okay.
And it's six episodes.
So it's not a very long series.
But it's star.
It's also got a great cast.
Ian McShane.
What else do I need to say?
Yeah.
So I'll be recording that comes Sunday night.
What else have we got going on here?
Excuse me.
You mentioned a walking dead.
AMC has renewed fear of the walking dead for season four.
Do you know anybody that's still watching this show?
Because I think my wife still got all of the last season on the DVR.
It hasn't touched it.
I know Mike is why Jennifer still watches it.
But I mean, me, Mikey, Jill's we bailed.
We completely bailed on fear.
It was just when you're when you're rooting for the walkers.
Something's wrong.
Netflix has renewed grace and Frankie for season four.
I didn't know that there was two or three.
What's grace and friend.
This is that it's got Jane Fonda in it about two aging women.
Does it come on Netflix?
That's why I haven't watched it.
That's why I don't know nothing about it.
Michael Mann making a couple of headlines this week.
Hopefully in a good way.
He is returning to television.
Okay.
To do a Vietnam mini series called Hugh 1968 based on Mark Bowdoings book on the TET offensive.
Okay.
I'm intrigued.
It was also announced today that there's going to be a heat prequel.
Seriously.
What else has he got going on?
But there's another prequel coming that I'm very excited about.
Something I posted on social media the other day not knowing what it was.
Now I know what it is.
It was a picture that I posted from a page of one of my favorite films.
Two brothers dressed in robes, kneeling in front of an altar.
And it's from the Boondock Saints page.
And you just got my daughter's attention.
Brand new series coming to television called Boondock Saints Origins from the director.
He is directly involved.
And they're also doing like a,
a,
what do they call the box thing that you order and you give something every month and it's the cool stuff.
It's all great.
Like a loot crate kind of thing with Boondock Saints Origins merchandise.
Nice.
I saw that today as a matter of fact.
And we have General Zod for Supergirl cast.
Anybody we know?
A Mark Zodden item.
All of the CW shows right now for me struggling just a bit.
I have officially clocked out as about two weeks ago of which one.
All of the, all of the, all of the, all of the CW DC universe.
You have clocked out of and up.
Really.
Yeah.
Wow.
It's just everything is, is of very, very similar.
And they're, they're, they just keep circling the same plotline drain.
It's like, okay.
Okay.
It looks like we're fine now.
Looking at the clock.
Everything, I mean, it's not doing everything it's supposed to.
Like we're okay for now.
Okay.
Just scared me.
Just scared you.
I'm trying to keep this thing moving.
All right.
It's kind of stuttering but it looks like it's holding on.
I don't know if there's something in the background that's not behaving itself or not.
So we're just going to keep, we're going to keep this thing moving.
Let me just unplug my keyboard and see if that helps at all.
Because I really don't need the keyboard at this point.
All right.
Looks like we have it down.
That's good news.
All right.
Donna's giving me.
All right.
Donna's giving me pieces of paper to work with here.
All right.
Up.
Where are we?
There we are.
Okay.
We do have guests joining us.
Let me turn microphones on.
Welcome.
Go ahead and talk.
Get right up on that microphone.
Introduce everybody too.
Yeah.
I'm Dave Thomas.
I'm the director of the film.
Very smart.
Hey sir.
Left button.
Six evidence.
Huh?
Trees.
But.
Зыч.
Okay.
We get it.
Hey step in.
I want to take a walk a little way.
You go ahead, Drag it easy.
Oh wait.
Where.
Different.
And within 6 hours.
Not really.
That will go into another let us know that that combination is tough.
All right.
We go ahead and go ahead.
Huh.
Right around the trio and the hell.
We're going through another way.
on a 350 acre farm, beautiful, beautiful, beautiful
farm, beautiful location, and this is a story about
struggling mother, a single mom and her son.
They have sort of a troubled relationship,
and ultimately the film is dealing with sexual assault
and it happens to that we're doing our Texas premier
during sexual assault awareness and prevention month.
That is true.
So, yeah, it was a fantastic shot.
I'm out of New York and the DPs out of New York,
but almost the entire rest of the casting crew
are all Texans, so it is very much a Texas film.
Coming to do the film here, was this your first visit
to our area of the country?
Or was had you been here before when you were scouting locations?
Or did you just come into this and cold?
I, so one of the producers is Cheryl Allison.
She is also the lead actress in the film.
She and I have been working on a documentary
that is we are following someone here in Texas,
and we've been following her for about a year.
So, apparently we can't say who it is.
And I'm not saying who it is.
I'm not trying.
It's not me.
As a pseudo journalist, as my duty to try.
Right.
And also it's going to be a fantastic film,
but this sort of happened during
we decided to do far from the tree during the process.
So, what was fantastic is that
I could scout the location multiple times.
In fact, the location itself influenced the script.
It influenced how the scripts sort of,
how the some of the scenes were visualized
because we were able to find beautiful and specific things
on the farm.
For example, the film is called far from the tree.
So, we found a beautiful,
narrowed old apple tree,
which really is the centerpiece,
centerpiece of our marketing.
It's a key player in one of the scenes.
And it really is that iconic element
that belongs to our main character, Abby.
And it's also, isn't there a one sheet for this?
Because I'm seeing something in my head
like I've seen it before.
Yes.
Okay.
And it's okay.
I could be completely wrong here.
Pull it trust me.
Not the first time the first time today.
Is it?
Without having to look at,
I'm using my Karnaq powers right now.
Tree is on the right side of the picture.
Am I right on that?
And there's some kind of a sunset in the background.
It's correct.
You got it.
Don't ask me how.
Don't ask me how.
Because I've seen it recently.
I don't know if I maybe I saw it on social media
or if I saw it in the guide,
but when the original announcement came out
last month of the lineup for the festival.
How long did it take you to shoot?
I mean, 16 minutes,
but that doesn't always mean the shoot is quick.
Right.
Three days.
Three days.
Three days.
That's right.
It was great.
The whole crew came together beautifully.
Like Dave said,
He's from New York.
Our D.P. is from New York.
And the rest of us are from Texas.
And it was wonderful.
We just had a great tight production team.
And we got everything we needed to get.
What brought you to the project?
Cheryl Allison, who's our producers.
She called me and told me that she had a project.
She had a story written by David Keer,
the writer.
And she invited me to come and read for her.
And Dave.
Dave Thomas.
So I'm at Dave.
And we all just had a great time at that first meeting.
And I just thought the script was so beautiful.
It's it's short.
But it's it unfolds in a beautiful way.
It's almost like a little feature film.
Sounds kind of heavy.
It is.
But it's beautiful.
It's a way.
It unfolds.
It's really.
You know, it's not.
It's not going to make you sad or depressed.
You're going to want to know more about this family and these characters.
So which leads me to my next question.
At 16 minutes.
Mm.
Is it where you want it to be?
Or is this something that you're interested
down the road?
Maybe it's stretching to a narrative feature.
It would be a fantastic feature.
As an entity, I'm extremely pleased with this 16 minute film.
And at the end of the film, most most people would say it leaves being wanting more.
I want to know more.
Leaving people wanting more is a good thing.
I always got really wanting.
So but I, you know, I think as a standalone, it is, it is great.
But if you see the film and when you see the film, you can easily see how this could
become a feature film because it's very rich.
And there's a lot more to be said.
Did the script come to you where you a part of the writing process?
So David Keer, who is also another, who is also a good friend of Sheryls, who is a
fantastic writer, wrote the script.
So when I got to script, I was actually in Detroit working on another film about
to get on a plane and the script came to me.
And by the time I landed back in New York, I absolutely wanted to do this film.
So I had nothing to do with the development of the story.
But David was very generous in allowing, looking at the script and figuring out how can we,
how can we continue to mold to mold the story?
For example, Angie's character, which plays, she plays Sheryls and was originally a
sister.
And it's by sort of dialing it towards someone who is now the matriarch of the family.
It brought weight and it changes the whole dynamic on a certain level.
And it just completely enriched the story to another degree.
So is this part of a short block or is it actually being shown as its own entity?
Well, it's a being shown as its own entity with the shorts.
So the answer is yes.
It's part of a block.
Do you know where in the block it sits?
No, I don't know.
Because I'm always interested in the way short blocks work because you have so many different
filmmakers involved, I'm sure there'll be a Q&A after.
Yes.
Now, did I hear you write that this is the first time it's being shown to the public?
It is not the first time.
Okay.
Okay.
Perfect.
It's been shown to the public only one of the time.
And where was that?
That was at the Julian Dubuque International Festival in Iowa.
I was born in Iowa.
So you say Dubuque now?
My ears pick up.
Which is interesting that you talk about where it falls.
Because the Texas short block, I believe, are all narrative films.
And Iowa, we played between two documentary films in a short.
Oh, wow.
That was extremely unusual.
Yeah, because you almost on a certain level, you kind of have to retrain your brain a little
bit from that documentary mode into a narrative mode.
I wouldn't even think about how that would impact the way I watch a film.
Did you think it showed it differently being sit there instead of it with other narratives?
Yes, for sure.
And you're exactly right.
It was in which in between two documentaries.
So the audience after when the block was done, they had just finished a documentary.
We were the Q&A.
So we really all had to take a breath.
Take a moment.
Just sort of put our minds back into narrative mode.
It was interesting.
The Q&A really sort of had a moment.
And then it took off.
Okay.
So our all, do you know if the other filmmakers in your block will be involved in the Q&A Sunday night?
I have no idea.
You'll know when you get there.
Right.
Yeah.
But that's the way it works.
She's just going.
And we'll be there.
You know, we're there.
We're good.
We also want to show up.
Y'all come on.
You're really good at asking questions.
So I'm really good about you.
But actually, we will be there personally.
We actually have another engagement Sunday.
And I was kind of bummed me out.
Because I'm really interested in what you're talking about.
The fact that, you know, the fact that I can see the poster for this in my head already
means that you're resonating.
Yeah, that's good.
So that's a great thing.
Where is this film going from here?
Well, we, the film really, you had just finished a few weeks ago.
Maybe at this point it was eight weeks ago, maybe.
Okay.
It was not very long.
So we're just starting to get the notices from film festivals.
So we're trying to do that film festival circuit.
So it's, you know, hopefully more festivals to come.
Yeah, there will be, but we just know where we go next.
Because they're letting us know.
But it will be going somewhere.
That's the way the festival circuit works, too.
And it's just like, it's all comes at one time.
And then you've got a Trump plan travel and right.
Exactly.
We don't want to keep you too long.
But on this show, we are all about shameless self promotion.
Yes.
So before we let you go, do what you got to do for you get settled in.
Get your mind right.
Give us websites social media.
Anyway, people can get a hold of this film to talk to me.
All right.
Do you know?
Yeah.
From the tree has a website and a Facebook page.
Exactly.
We're on Twitter.
We're on Facebook.
We're on Instagram.
I think Instagram may be where I saw it.
Okay.
And most, most everywhere, it is, it is far from the tree short film.
That's where your Facebook page is.
Yeah.
I've already got your link down on it.
Yeah.
Whenever we have guests on, check out chat.
Chat's not not talking.
He's usually handling our social media while I'm doing the talk.
Right.
And our producer is not here.
Cheryl Allison.
And she usually is like our best spokesperson.
And has everything.
Well, so it sounds like she was the linchpin of this whole thing.
She was the salesman.
She was a little bit lost without her tonight.
You know, because she has all of this.
Why, as they do, you know, because I know, but not the specific.
Well, it looks like we've got somebody over your right shoulder.
Yeah.
You know as well.
That's my brother.
That's my brother.
Yeah.
That's my brother.
Oh, we know you're public.
Yes.
And then a David Kier, the right.
That's right.
And he's about to, he's actually about to sit down with us.
Okay.
So we're going to let you guys tag out.
Thank you for joining us.
Thank you.
So we're so honored that you're here.
And the best of you guys on Sunday.
Thank you very much.
It's a great time.
It's a beautiful film.
That's right.
All right.
Thank you so much.
We're going to keep moving.
We're actually going to have the writer on next a far from the tree.
All right.
And when Kelly Kitchens is involved, it happens.
That's all I'm saying.
When Kelly's here, she makes sure we get the guests.
Because we love our Kelly Kitchens.
Can I show you something that Miss Bowling has done?
Yes.
How did this not come up?
I didn't know it would be the right time to bring it up.
I'm going to put your headphones on, sir.
Get right up on the microphone and introduce yourself to our audience if you would be so kind.
Sure.
My name is David Keer.
I am the writer from far from the tree.
A man whose name has been mentioned 17 times before he even walked in the door.
You count it.
Awesome.
I may have overestimate.
I should.
But welcome to the show, sir.
The show's the film is showing Sunday night.
It is far from the tree 16 minutes long.
It's okay.
Whatever.
Whatever makes you more comfortable.
That's what I'm okay with it.
Okay.
Welcome.
Thank you.
So it's shot over three days.
Yes.
About an hour and a half south east of where we currently are.
Right.
Yes.
So did you write it specifically to be a Texas story or didn't become a Texas story?
I wrote it specifically to be a Texas story because I'm from Texas.
And I only recently moved back here.
I had been away for about 30 years.
But I grew up with a Texas aesthetic and appreciating the way the people in Texas engage with each other.
And the issues that they face in small town Texas town.
So I wanted that aesthetic to be a part of the story.
It's not just a setting.
It actually does.
It's sort of metaphorical for the main character situation.
We are actually, I guess that we're just on before you.
We're talking about how one of the characters that you changed.
We're talking about change relations with the main character and talk about as a screenwriter.
Sure.
Talk about how making that.
And because that, that adjustment changes the whole dynamic of the theme.
Right.
Well, yes.
Abby originally had an older sister.
And Cheryl Alice in the producer asked me to consider and Dave asked me to consider making it into an act.
The thing is that the change from sister to aunt didn't necessarily change the screenplay very much.
So much as it changed the way that they interacted and what their relationship meant to each other.
But in terms of actually writing it, the role that the character played didn't necessarily change in terms of dialogue.
But it opened up some opportunities to enhance that that character's role.
So it was actually quite exciting.
And the opportunity to have Angie Bowling come in and play that role was just amazing.
So you kind of more had to rely on the performance itself to change the dynamics so that your dialogue can kind of stay accurate.
Just maybe just tweak a little bit.
Well, right.
So the dialogue didn't necessarily need to change because it's not as if the character ever says,
I'm your sister or I'm your aunt.
Okay.
She played a role as a family member and as a support system for Abby.
And so the lines that she has in the show don't necessarily change but the fact that it is that Abby has not become an only child.
Instead of having a sibling changes Abby's the main character situation.
And so the role of aunt dot becomes one less.
It's not quite as adversarial at the same time that it's supportive.
It really just became supportive but it didn't change necessarily her dialogue.
So if I'm hearing you correctly that but I hate to dwell on this but it's kind of leading me to more cool stuff.
So not really defining that role was that intentional by you when you wrote it or just kind of it just kind of that's the way it flowed from you.
Right.
Well, there's a lot that I when I that I prefer to write as not explicit.
Okay.
So I you know.
Which I think from an actor standpoint is a beautiful thing.
Yeah.
You know when you have 16 minutes to work with and you have to tell a complex story.
You can't you can't explain everything.
You don't want to explain everything.
You want the audience to join you on a very quick journey without having to provide a lot of background.
Without having to take time to establish a lot of things about the characters or the situation.
It's not time for that.
And so there are some things that there's a lot that is left for the audience to infer.
And if it's and if you write well you guide them into that inference without having to say things explicitly to them.
Okay.
That's fair.
Sunday night is the Texas premiere of the film.
Yes.
Do the nerves change because of the nature of it being a Texas film or because you see it's shown once already.
Yes.
Talk about do those emotions differ.
Because now you're showing it in the area of the country where you shot it and you're having it as a Texas film.
Well I know that the producer Karina Rush and the director Dave Thomas were at the Julian Dubuque Film Festival.
I was not.
So I didn't get to experience it premiering in a non-Tex's situation.
So for me it will be my first experience with an audience will be here in Texas.
Nice.
Yeah.
And I hope that they respond positively to it that they're able to relate from a regional perspective.
You know, I'd like to think that there's a Texas aesthetic to the film.
I wonder if every region likes to think that they have their own aesthetic.
You know, really ultimately.
Well this state is special.
Right.
Right.
But with someone from, you know, Vermont be able to relate to the film or what they view it as a foreign aesthetic.
I don't, I don't, well that foreign necessarily that's southern.
Just maybe unfamiliar.
Just maybe unfamiliar.
Okay.
Yeah.
Sure.
I do hope that I do hope two things.
One that people from the region are able to relate to the feelings of the character and the situation visually and emotionally that the characters are in.
But to that audiences and other locations will be able to appreciate the story as well.
Without feeling like it's in an area that is unfamiliar.
But the unfamiliarity of the aesthetic changes, you know, prohibits them from appreciating the film.
Talking to David Angie, whenever we talk to people that work with short films.
The, the question always evolves into.
Is it where you want it to be?
Would you like to see it as a longer narrative feature from a screenwriter standpoint?
Yeah.
I don't know that we've ever asked that question of someone who's written the script for something that is a short.
Yeah.
Is it where you think you'd like it to be?
Or would you like to, if given the opportunity, expand it to a longer narrative?
Sure.
So the, the film far from the tree is, I could not be happier with it.
It's amazing.
It is exactly what I wanted it to be.
What my vision for was.
I really have to credit Dave Thomas, the director and also for the cinematographer and the whole production team in cast.
For really embracing the vision that I have.
So the, the film for me is perfect.
Perfect as it is now.
The, the story, though, is actually from a larger story that I have been working on for, for some time.
And it began as a novel and Cheryl Allison, an, an unfinished novel.
Cheryl Allison the producer and the lead actress is a friend of mine.
And she asked me if I had anything that might work for a short.
So I pulled this piece out of that larger narrative.
Okay.
And so in my mind, there is a larger story to tell.
You know, one of the, one of the things that I like about the, the film now is that it doesn't necessarily end.
There's not a strong sense of completion.
So it does leave open the opportunity to tell this large narrative.
And also to the earlier point about leaving something ambiguous and, and having the audience infer,
there's a lot of front story, not, you know, there's a lot that happens before this point.
And I would love the opportunity to tell that larger story.
And I like that ambiguity because we don't do enough of what I like to call discussion pieces.
You know, we, we live in a time where everything is wrapped up in a nice little boat and here you go.
I like it when I get to see a film that that we can see and then we can go to dinner afterwards and talk about what we saw versus,
like what I saw versus what Chad saw versus what Don saw.
Right.
Yes.
They're given me the high sign because you guys have to go get ready.
Yes.
But anything that you want to plug before you go, please do.
Just, I hope that you can come see the show as Sunday 7 o'clock as part of the Texas showcase here at the USA Film Festival.
We're just so grateful to be here and thank you for having me out.
We're honored to have you on, sir.
Go enjoy the evening.
It is far from the tree Sunday night as part of the festival short block.
So come out and check it out.
Thank you.
You are listening to the clubhouse podcast.
We are live at the 47th Annual USA Film Festival at the Angelica at Mockingbird Station.
There are more guests joining us now.
They're going to sit down and put their headphones on so we can get them up and rolling.
Gentlemen, you're going to want to talk right into that microphone.
Be right on top of it and tell us who you are.
James Cates.
Andrew Greco.
And we co-wrote and directed the short film, Lucid.
Which is all showing during the same block on Sunday.
If I'm not mistaken.
Tell us about the film.
Yes.
Tell us about the film.
So originally we actually shot it as a concept video for a feature that we want to do.
Okay.
It's a horror movie that we shot in first person.
Oh wow.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You got mine.
Yeah.
That's his genre.
So I mean, like it's not necessarily new to the horror genre.
Like the first shooting in first person.
But it's a whole thing shot in first person.
Whole thing shot in first person.
It's just over 10 minutes.
And we just wanted to show that like a lot of mainstream stuff that's been done in first person has been done.
Well, if we were in a video, you would see him go, how do I say not good without saying not good.
You can say not good.
It's okay.
Yeah.
Okay.
Not good.
And so we wanted to show like it can be done right.
If in the right hands.
Kind of a thing.
I'm right there with you.
Yeah.
So that was the original intent.
And then we were like.
Like originally it was just like a small idea.
Like just show we can do first person.
And then we were like, well, just make a short film.
Show that it'll work.
So yeah, it was kind of like, we had this idea to do it in first person.
We had an idea to make it a concept video because we're working on the feature film script.
But it didn't really come together until post production because we really had no clue what it was going to look like.
So we were shooting it and it was kind of like, it's going well.
It might turn out to be something good.
Then we were editing it.
It's like, okay, this looks pretty good.
And then once we got all the sound and everything in it, it's like, wow.
This is way better than we were expecting it to be.
That's a good thing though.
That is definitely a good thing.
When you have it, it goes the other way.
Plus some surprise at the end.
That's always.
It makes it a little bit easier when you get to the screening of it.
Has it shown before this weekend?
It's gotten into.
You.
My other festivals.
Okay.
For the actual festivals and one that was more like a, it was like a competition.
Yeah, more like a competition.
So we have had like screenings.
But this is the first time that it's actually shown in Texas.
So this is actually the first time we get to see it on a big screen.
Oh, really?
Like a little computer screen.
Okay.
That's good home.
Right.
Where'd you shoot it?
So our producer is also the actor that's in his mom had a cabin that she led a student.
Which was really good because one of the, I don't want to say gags.
But one of the tricks that we wanted to do in our original idea.
We were afraid we weren't going to be able to do unless we found like the perfect house.
And luckily this cabin wasn't quite perfect.
But it was as close as we probably could have gotten out like building the set.
But without expense because that's the thing too.
Not really, not really to like spoil anything.
But the one main kind of idea that we had for the horror aspect of it.
Really, really dependent on the fact that the front door had to be visible from the back door.
Okay.
Otherwise we would have had to completely rearrange like how we shot it or all of that stuff.
A lot of trick shooting.
Yeah.
So we drove up to the cabin.
We did some locations guarding in the first thing we saw.
It's like we can see the back door.
This is perfect.
Nice.
Yeah.
One of our big things that we wanted to do was kind of do away with the classic four tropes.
So like this house is haunted.
Why don't they just leave?
Like you're always watching a horror movie and it's kind of like they're make.
Like we have smart characters making stupid decisions.
It's like the old Eddie Murphy bit where he talks about the family.
It's like, well, this place is really nice.
Can't out.
Too bad we can't stay.
Yeah.
Exactly.
Exactly.
So without spoiling what we did like we tried to do away.
Like give them a reason why they can't leave.
You know, especially in today's society.
It's like, you know, the stuff set the fan.
Why don't you just whip out your cell phone and call for help?
You know what?
Yeah.
Because technology kind of ruins a lot of that shot.
Everything has to be told like, this is in the 70.
Yeah.
It's even better like it's conveniently like, oh, my phone just doesn't have receptor at this very moment.
It's like so it seemed like half of the planning for this shoot and probably half the planning for the feature is going to be okay.
So this is what they would normally do in a horror movie.
That makes absolutely no sense.
So what do we do?
Like we have to think backwards in terms of not doing the classic like horror movie tropes.
How long did it take you to map everything out so that you were ready to shoot?
Oh, we pretty much had everything locked in for pre-production about three or four weeks before we even shot.
Oh, wow.
Because we had the script.
All the dialogue was recorded later.
So we didn't necessarily have like a traditional script.
And we had basically the fleshed out idea of what exactly we wanted.
And then it was just a matter of finding the location.
And then once we found the location, we were like, okay,
you know, making crappy sketches of like, I think it was, you know, I think this room was this big.
And this room was this big.
And our producer, Kyle Roark, whose mom is who we shot in their cabin.
She was like, well, I have the blueprints, do you want them?
We were like, um, yeah.
So we literally just used the blueprints and made like a top-down view in Photoshop and just drew crude little lines.
Like, okay, so this is what we didn't know.
But in reality, there are actually like 26 cuts.
Something like that.
And so we shot for 14 days, over two days,
for what amounted to about nine and a half or ten minutes of a final film.
Which people don't understand that math sometimes.
Oh, it's like, oh, it's a short film.
You shot it in a day.
It's not the way it works.
Yeah, that is not the way it works.
The math makes no sense at all.
But it all works out in the end.
Exactly.
Do you really, do you guys want to expand on this?
Or is where it sits kind of where you want it to be?
I don't know.
We're definitely writing the script.
The feature script is going to be significantly different,
because like we said originally, this was a constant video.
So we are taking bits and pieces from the short film and putting it in.
But we are making a full, full feature link movie.
Or we want to write your script first person.
The tricky thing for that is we don't want it to seem like it's one take.
So we will have traditional cuts so that you go to the next scene.
Like, oh, like a day has gone by or something like that.
So we're going to have to figure out creative ways to stay in first person.
But still do something.
And we look at a film like hardcore Henry last year.
Yeah.
That established that you can do that and make it work.
Because I love that film.
But it was a lot of fun.
You were talking about designing the rooms.
And it made me think we recently saw a film called Free Fire.
That just released.
Yeah.
I haven't seen it yet.
First of all.
I said this in my review.
Take the last 20 minutes of reservoir dogs.
Stretch it to 90 minutes.
Take out stuck in the middle with you and put in John Denver's Andy Saw.
That's what it is.
But the reason I bring that up is the whole thing takes place in a warehouse pretty much.
Yeah.
The director who's also the screenwriter, co-screenwriter.
He actually designed the warehouse in Minecraft.
Yeah.
I did read that.
Yeah.
And that's the main thing.
But you guys are like, we were just jotting stuff down.
You can just do that.
Now just go into Minecraft.
It's just, right?
It's yourself an area.
You don't need to be modeling software.
You don't need like all that expensive software.
For like shot designing, like storyboarding.
Whatever.
Just pull up Minecraft.
Yeah.
And I just like, how is he the first person that I've ever read?
It's done that.
I know.
It seems like one of those ideas were like, if you were to tell somebody to do that,
it'd be like, oh no.
That's a stupid idea.
But then you actually see somebody using it.
It's like, it's really an idea.
All right.
So just how long it took him to make the room in Minecraft.
Oh, God.
There are a lot of patients.
Yeah.
Well, we don't want to keep you guys too long.
But we are a little bit self.
Yeah.
Shameless self promotion on this show.
So before we let you go and enjoy the evening, give our listeners everything they
need to know on how to get to this film.
First of all, Sunday night is part of the Texas Short Block right here at the Angelica,
but give us websites, give us social media, give us everything.
Well, we're actually both absolutely horrible at social media.
So right now, the only place you can really look at is our production company websites.
Negativeapples.com.
Don't try and Google it.
We haven't done any kind of like Google Adwords or anything.
Just put in negativeapples.com.
You can check our, that's our production company.
Because of some of the festivals that we're in, the short is still password protected.
I'm not going to give that out because some of, you know, the festivals are a little
picky about that.
But yeah, you can check us out at negativeapples.com.
Come see the movie to Sunday night at 7 in the 7 o'clock block.
And the Angelica.
Q and A afterwards, right?
Q and A afterwards.
All right.
Good evening.
It is lucid.
It'll be part of the short block on Sunday night.
Don't as feverishly moving along.
Don't know exactly what's going on here.
Thank you gentlemen so much.
You're listening to the clubhouse podcast.
We are live at the Angelica and mockingbird station for the 47th annual USA Film Festival
going on.
It's been going on for a few days.
It's going on throughout the weekend.
This weekend.
And it just kicked in the high gear.
Did it?
I'm just saying the traffic.
Oh, yeah.
A lot more people have shown up.
He's going on tonight.
All day tomorrow.
All day Sunday.
Friends of the show.
We've already seen here, which I love it when our friends show up.
Because it makes my life a little easier.
Because it makes me a lot less nervous about the show when there's people in the room
that I know, which helps tremendously.
Our next show will be Sunday night.
We'll be back at the mothership for the WWE.
What is this one?
This isn't backlash.
This is payback.
Payback is this.
I've lost track actually.
One of the 19 paper views that will happen in the next six weeks.
But we'll be back in the studio for that.
And we've got another maybe a couple more road shows coming up next month.
That we've got to get locked down.
Just got a lead on one this week.
And we can't really talk about it yet.
Because the details are not hammered out.
But we're looking forward to that.
And another one that I'll be reaching out for here in the next few days
to get a chance to do that as well.
A friend of the show.
Adam Conway taking pictures of us.
This work. We're okay with that.
I mean, there's a lot of buzz going on right now.
It kind of went from family to feast here at the Angelica.
We're upstairs by the way.
If you come by and see us.
I didn't realize who that was.
Uh-huh.
Holy cow.
Okay.
Okay. No. No.
Yes. Yes.
Oh, I know who that is.
Wow.
There it is again.
What a streak is alive sir.
What I would have pulled up her profile.
I noticed that you don't.
He liked this profile.
So because I know who this is on multiple fronts.
Because what Don gave you is only a small piece of my fandom for this individual
when they get here.
I don't want to give it away.
I have a pretty good idea where you're going with this.
You might.
Yeah.
You might.
You might.
I saw the resume.
There's a lot of things that this individual was done that I'm a huge fan of.
She's also has a tie.
I'm not mistaken to another guest that we've had on in the past.
I want to say she has a tie to Chris Elliott.
But I'm not for sure.
Wouldn't shock me.
But we're going to have to wait until she gets here.
And we're definitely biting time at this point.
Let's do a couple of music headlines while we are waiting.
Oh, TV on DVD this week.
Uh, season three of the last ship with a pee.
Was that the last season five thing it was?
Uh, the complete series of the 4400 and a really cool thing happening this week
underwoman the complete collection.
It's the entire series, the Linda Carter series, as well as all of the animated stuff from the 70s.
That's cool.
That is a friend of the show, Jen Rome has already let me know when her birthday is on that.
Suddle.
So very subtle.
And she may be helping out with the show coming up here for too much longer.
We'll talk about that off air.
Because again, details are not locked down yet.
I don't want to, you know, cats out of bags.
I don't need to be out of bags yet.
Yes.
Close to the vest.
Close to this.
Also next weekend.
As we prepare for a big weekend coming up.
By the way, two weeks from tomorrow.
Friend of the show barboy are getting married.
Oh, my god.
That is two weeks from tomorrow, brother.
Please.
Can't wait.
I'll be officiating that wedding.
We need to coordinate that.
So I will, I will be there looking forward to seeing him in Christy.
Make it officiall.
Even though technically, I mean,
They've got to be calm them all by now.
Well, they've been together for how many years.
Um, I believe since 1932.
If I'm not mistaken.
If it's not close, it feels like it.
I think Fred is there's cheek to cheek was their first date.
I'm not sure.
You know, we have another friend of the show that's working over here.
Like, young lady, we had on the show the first week of the death.
For the nomination for most awkward interview that we've done this year.
It was just like, I was God bless her for being such a great season with it.
With the kid that we talked about.
Oh, yes, she's here.
Of course, you know, her name is keeps me at this point because my brain is fried.
I see a lot of people that a lot of, the usual suspects are here, which is great.
Here she is.
Feel free, have a seat.
You know how this works.
Hey, what's up?
Please, again, nobody's going to believe me.
If I introduce you, she's so pleased to introduce her.
You mean, my name is Mary Lynn Rice, kind of.
You may know we best as Chloe for 24.
I have to say that.
Of course she do, but there's other things that I know you from.
Ons of things.
You're a staple when you get to Indiana of the Bob and Tom show.
I knew that's where you were going with this.
I am a huge Bob and Tom fan.
That's awesome.
So, of course, everybody knows you as Chloe, but that's really awesome.
That's really awesome.
You're doing.
Well, I still, I am perpetually bridging the gap of people not knowing that I do comedy.
You do comedy very well.
I'm in a, I'm in a, thank you very much.
I'm in a very, I don't know what you would call it.
Special position.
There's a better word than that.
I'm just 24 being the only drama.
But it's the largest, you know, it's known worldwide.
So, you know, a lot of people see me and they're like,
What are you working on?
And it's like, well, nothing's going to be as big of a splash to, like,
They want me to say, you know, key for an IR.
We're happy to understand.
We're shooting.
I mean, I know doing a lot of stand up.
A lot of tons of things.
I follow you on social media.
You're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're in your sun.
You're in that, you're in the no.
I try to be.
When I'm rearing a sun.
When I'm afraid to say something, I'm a fan.
I'm a fan.
I'm a fan.
I'm a fan.
I'm a fan.
I'm a fan.
I'm a fan.
I do crackers.
I'm a fan.
So what brings you to the book?
So, I do crackers.
Yes, up there with, uh, gosh.
Why is his name escaping me right now?
Okay.
My brain's gone.
Okay.
It's just, go, we'll just move on.
Nobody.
But we don't, it's not even like you got someone's name wrong.
It's just gone.
Sort of adorable, really.
Thank you, I appreciate it.
You can see the static cloud over his hand right now.
Story of my life.
What brings you to town?
Are you just for the festival?
Are you visiting?
You have a film to promote?
Yes.
We have a film to promote.
Here with Nancy Cartwright and a couple of the producers
from the film in search of Felini.
Oh, I know that you were involved in that.
Yes.
And it's basically a producer and writer.
It's based loosely based on true events from her life.
And it's just a beautiful kind of a dreamscape
movie of a coming of age of a woman who discovers Federico Federini.
Fred, can you please?
Federico.
It's so clearly not a noun.
It's so Italian.
I mean, I like Federico Federini, like my, my voice.
There's a mutual struggle going on between the two of you.
Yeah, we're at the two of us.
We have one strong show.
We have one horribly tongue diverse.
But yeah, we're here promoting it.
And it's just just screening at seven o'clock here.
We're really excited.
Okay, we have to go back to the big thing because Don's back joined us.
The big thing.
And this is, this is the one thing that you're, your biggest show is the thing
that you nights us because it was, I mean, even for my wife and I for a while,
that was stop down doing.
So I know that's why Don's seated.
So I'm going to let him ask his questions.
Usually, I don't sit and do the interviews at these things, but for this,
I just want to say, I, I, I, I, I love the show.
I watched it every week from the beginning.
Why if I wait ahead of wait for each week, but it's just an honor.
I thank you for taking the time.
I love the show.
Thank you, but he owns the whole series on DVD.
Oh, my God.
I got that big A-Box set.
You know, there's people that you probably know the show better than I do.
And the period of time when it came out was before everybody binged everything.
So it's really special to a lot of people.
It was.
It truly was.
You were waiting every week.
We just, we had Glenn on, but three weeks ago.
Three weeks ago.
We had Glenn Morshauer sitting right where you are, except all the other part of time.
As you said, that it just locked.
I was like, wait, this is the second 24 person we've had in the last four weeks.
But I got to go, but thank you so much, Sonano.
So let's talk a little bit about the stand up.
Yes.
How much are you able to do versus what you're working on when you're
whether doing a film or a television show?
How, what kind of balance is that for you right now?
I kind of the shift around a lot.
I would say them has two to three to four years.
I was on the road in earnest, you know?
I was getting my road comic stripes because before that, it was mostly acting an
in-town in LA and I thought, well, either you're going to quit or you're really going
to dig in and go on the road and that's what took me to the Bob and Tom show and, you
know, I land all over the United States doing comedy and then I took some bits from that
and crafted it into a one-woman show and was able to go to the Edinburgh.
Fringe Festival.
I don't know if you've heard of that.
I did the show almost 40 times in a row along with doing it at the Montreal
Comedy Festival.
Anyway, tons of live performance loved it and then once I got the end of that, I was like,
I'm ready to be home for a while, so I'm back at that end.
I've been doing a lot of performances in Los Angeles and also writing and developing a
script because it just kind of hit me.
I exhausted myself.
I was like, I don't really want to tour the world with my live show right now.
I'm going to go back and be with my family.
What a concept.
Rains just unlocked Chris Bowers.
Chris Bowers runs one of the clubs there at Indie.
Oh, I don't have.
Oh, man.
Okay.
Maybe I thought he'd run crackers in Broad Ripple.
I know, Ruth, I am.
Okay.
I don't think I've met Chris.
So you've got this film going on right now.
Let's talk about what else is going on.
What else is going on?
What do you have coming up?
Because we're all about shameless self promotion.
Um, wow.
See, my brain I'm locked in here is locked, so we're trading back and forth.
I'm developing a script right now for IFC channel.
I don't even know if I should talk about that because there are enough.
Quite a while away from being on the air.
I'm kind of teaching myself how to write right now.
That's exciting.
Okay, cool.
If you come to Hollywood, you can see me doing my stand-up.
Getting to promote this film and just taking it around town.
Let's talk about this.
I'm sorry.
So far as much as I can.
Oh, hi.
Let's talk about it.
I just got asked what I have coming up besides this movie.
I was like, nothing.
I'm going to be chillin' at the house.
You know, it's good.
It's good.
I got two dogs in the cat.
So who now joins us in the other hot seat?
She is.
Hi.
What's happening?
There it is.
It just happened.
It just happened.
Don just passed out behind you.
We're going to need to get done some help.
The manager is right there.
The manager is right there.
Chad and I've been, we've been texting back and forth all week.
And this, you were the one.
He goes, if we're there Friday night, if we can.
I can't tell everybody who you work is, if I say they're not going to work.
Listen who the hell are you?
There you go.
Done.
And that's not like Frank Caliando didn't just sit down.
That is Nancy Carl Wright.
That is the actual person who has been doing this voice since I was in high school.
I love watching you do that because she goes into, it's not just the voice.
I was watching your face and it's like, it's really his hand like, that who the hell
are you?
That comes from a real play.
Here's a shock or Bart, I'm a grandmother and that's kind of weird.
Stop.
Seriously.
Hey, you're no tri- and a manny tranny, I'm just saying.
Okay, I'm done.
I can't.
At this point, I'm done.
I just have one request.
Okay.
If possible, could you say, don't have a cow don't?
Don't have a cow don't.
We now have that recorded and we will isolate that for him later.
He's like a ninja.
He just shows up any sticks and moves.
It's crap out of me.
Wait.
Yes.
Yes.
She got the film to the festival.
Tell her, I mean, we've been talking with Mary Lennon about to film a bit.
Talk to her from your standpoint because this is your deal, right?
Yeah, it is.
You wrote it.
You're in it.
Yeah.
Talk about, I mean, this is from your experience.
You're not all set.
I'll set the scene.
Back in 1985.
Now, of course, it's a couple years before I got the Simpsons.
I had done my little pony, glow friends, snorks, pound puppies.
Twilight Zone.
Twilight Zone.
Nice.
Mr. Belvedere.
Cheers.
Empty Nest.
Yeah.
So I'm balancing on camera with voiceovers.
But I was, I don't know.
It's kind of, I always want more.
I was looking for something.
Mm-hmm.
I was in an acting class and my teacher told me to take a look at Felini's
Lestrada.
So I looked at it and fell in love with Julietta Masina and her performance as
Jels Amina.
She's a little clown.
And her role purpose was to make people laugh.
You've seen the movie?
Yeah.
You're a long time ago.
Well, you'll be gently reminded when you see it.
Anyway, I certainly reminded it.
You don't seem to be the same for me.
I don't even remember who Jels Amina is.
Anyway, I put every scene up in my class and I decided that I wanted to get the rights from Felini
to do this as a play.
So I wrote all these letters to people.
Didn't get any response.
I kept writing Felini.
And finally, I got a response.
And they said, don't come.
Who are you?
You don't want any water stuff.
Yeah, they said don't come.
He's going to be here, but he's busy.
And I'm like, well, that's all I needed to hear.
So I went.
I went off in search of Felini.
And I went to Italy.
And I went to Milan, Verona, Venice, Florence.
I wanted to end up Christmas Eve at the Vatican because that week between Christmas and
New Years was when he was going to be there.
So I thought I'll take in the whole culture of Italy.
So I traveled from city to city and had an amazing time.
And I just did things that any woman in her 20s would do.
I fell in love.
I let guys court me.
I just, they were my shaperones.
They showed me around.
I flirted.
I drank wine.
I had an amazing time.
I got myself in some trouble that you have to see the movie to find out what that is.
Of course.
When I came back, I realized, oh my god, I have a story to tell.
So instead of doing Lestrada, I started creating it as a one woman show.
Now time is moving on.
And now I'm married.
I have two children.
I have the Simpsons.
My kids are, you know, their babies.
And I'm thinking, wow, okay.
So I developed this as a one woman show.
In 1995, put it on in a theater in Los Angeles.
And it did pretty good.
Got some acknowledgment.
Certainly got some attentions.
Riders from the show came to see it.
Julie Dan.
Yardly.
They came to see it.
Matt graining.
Which is kind of bizarre.
So 20.
I mean, that I'm here doing this.
And we're still doing the Simpsons.
That's just weird.
It's incredible.
I showed it's been on over half of my life now.
Oh, dude.
We're getting the high sign.
I wish I could keep you more.
But they're going to choke me out if I don't.
So that's the deal.
Give us the same as plugs.
Websites social media.
Everything for you go.
Sure.
And Nancy Carried.
Nancy Carried.com.
What else do you need?
It's my name.
There you go.
Everything's out there.
Spotted cows.
Spotted cow entertainment.
That's my.
That's my new production company.
You can go there too.
Okay.
Love you.
Thank you for being here.
Thank you so much.
I would keep you all night if I could trust me.
But you.
But you've got stuff.
You've got to do.
You've got to move you to promote stuff.
Oh, except.
Oh, and Bentonville.
I'll be in Bentonville.
May 5th.
The next weekend.
Yeah.
Next weekend.
All right.
Because we got people everywhere.
So.
All right.
Two.
Love you.
You.
That was.
This show can end right now.
And I'm happy.
Nobody's going to believe us back at work.
Oh, they are going to.
I'm going to say if audacity crashes.
I'm going to cry like a child.
Don't even say that.
You're putting.
Just hold on.
Not.
Not.
Just hold on.
You were able to see the clubhouse podcast.
We're live at the 47th annual USA Film Festival.
This had Mary Lynn Rice Club and Nancy Cartwright at the same time.
And then back to back.
That's just happened.
I don't ever want to not do a road show because every time we do a road show lately,
we've got something bigger.
And we've got another one we haven't even talked about next month.
That could be one of the craziest things that this show's ever done.
That's amazing.
That's amazing.
Fair Park.
Musical.
This year's Texas High School Musical Awards is happening.
We covered it last year.
We did a one hour pre-show in the lobby.
Then we took all the gear.
Moved it to the green room.
Talk to all the winners.
We're actually going to be the first person to talk to a winner this year.
Because we get to present on a ward.
That's okay.
The very first ever social media award.
We are going to be presenting at the Texas High School Musical Awards.
Thanks for our friends over there.
I'm looking into blue and orange tuxes for me in chat.
You know what?
You guys do that.
I'll be more traditional.
And speaking of which.
Why is this such a beating to try to price tuxes online?
Because they probably need to measure you.
I just want to just give me a ballpark of what it's going to cost me.
I tried to go to a website and they're like,
We need you to choose from the following stuff.
I just want a tuxedo.
I'm not buying a car.
What do we need to create like tux max or something like that?
Help a brother out.
That's what I'm saying.
I am not the smartest man on the planet.
Let's just say it.
Really?
I'm not the smartest man on the planet.
I didn't say I wasn't the smartest man alive.
Completely different.
Oh, that's a lot of money.
You can't let him go.
You've got to let him do what he does, bro.
You've got to let him do what he does, bro.
You've got to let him do what he does, bro.
You've got to let him do what he does.
You've got to let him do what he does.
I had Oakley, Oakley, Dom, by Harry's shirt.
Three years ago.
That's a night.
This has been a big night for a doctor.
Doc's breaking a swipe up in here.
I mean, it's a little warm, but Donna's breaking a swipe.
He hasn't stopped moving since we started.
But that's what he does when we do film festivals.
He's getting us the guests.
We're getting him on the air.
These things are happy.
Tell me you put that on our social media, by the way.
What's that?
But when both of them were sitting here.
Of course.
Okay, I just want to make sure.
What I do.
Because I'm going to tell you something, brother.
Having Mary on our ship was such a wonderful surprise.
Because you know I'm a big up a fan.
Take a peek.
There she is.
There she is.
And Donna's going to get us the picture.
So we can get those up on the social media as well.
See, that bit's over.
You can't because I saw you take the pictures.
I saw it happen.
It happened.
I was here.
It was a thing.
Yeah, right.
Sure it was.
It's going to break it over your head.
So if I want to know what's Chloe and what the answer.
Yeah, it's okay.
Don't get some.
Don't get the perks every once and again.
You know what I mean?
All right.
Let's talk.
So we look like we might have some more guests.
In the meantime, just a quick music headlines.
The album John is recovering after canceling a number of shows.
Kind of bacterial infection.
Oh, good.
But he says he's going to be back in no time.
I think they cancel like 16 shows or something like that.
All right.
All right.
You can put your headphones on.
You pick a microphone and we'll be ready to rock.
Okay.
I'm Rob.
That's Chad.
Hi, guys.
How you doing?
Welcome.
I'm reading it upside down.
All right.
Go ahead and talk right in that microphone.
Tell everybody who you are.
My name is Charlie.
And Charlie, you are producing sensitivity training.
Yeah.
I'm the producer of sensitivity training tonight.
I went to show him tonight.
Huh?
What time is it showing?
It starts now.
Oh.
John, you give a guy this movie starting right now.
It's okay.
I've seen it.
I've seen it.
It's really fine.
It's a wonderful movie.
And I get the Dallas good morning Dallas thing this morning.
Explain it.
So that's about all I got.
Plus, I got a film tomorrow night directed by my son.
Along with in the featured shorts area.
Okay.
And we're also doing a retrospective of René O'Barrison law.
Who will be here.
René O'Barrison law is a guy you'll remember from deep space.
Nine, the guy with no face.
Ah, yes.
Oh, no.
And he was also on pencil.
Oh, yeah.
He was also on the 1976 remake of King Kong.
Thank you very much.
Yeah.
That's why I was a King Kong.
Yes, sir.
And like that and mash.
Other than that, he hadn't done anything.
I was on Hill Street Blues.
Tell them no.
No.
No.
Hill Street Blues.
That's that's credit right there, my friend.
Well, I think that's some credit.
Yeah, I would call that credit.
So tell us about the film.
Well, the film is the film about a relationship
between two women who were trying to figure out what
their relationship is.
And it's directed by a really wonderful young director.
And her name is Melissa Finnell, who was a student of mine at UCLA
in the Master's Program.
And so she came to me and asked me what I produced exactly
to produce her film.
And I did.
And it's been all over the country and festivals.
And she's getting a lot of work out of it.
So I'm happy guy.
Cool.
Very cool.
How many, is this the first time the film is shown or is it shown?
Oh, no.
It's been, it's been, it's been, it's been, it's been,
it's premieres in the Los Angeles Film Festival.
It's been, it's been a Palm Springs, it's been in Seattle,
in New York, it's been around.
So again, I guess is this another film that's a Texas premier of this weekend?
Pardon me?
This is the first time.
So this is like what the third or fourth film and a run that we've
talked about that's first showing in Texas this weekend.
Yeah, yeah.
As a USA film festival.
Yeah.
How have those showings been going?
Have you had good Q and A's?
Have they?
Oh, yeah.
No, the thing, universally.
I mean, the main thing is, you know, she's a gay woman.
So the audience, there's a big audience.
And it's a, it gets a lot of, a lot of LGBT people audience.
And it's just hugely great response.
And also, you know, she's kind of warding off sales with just great.
That's always a good key.
When someone wants to buy it and distribute it, that's good for my,
Oh, that's my part of it, man.
Oh, yeah.
That's the producer that getting, getting, getting, you know,
how, how long did it take you to the film?
Uh, maybe, I think it was probably 30 days shoot.
Oh, wow.
Oh, wow.
They got UCLA medical department, which they never do to cooperate with the entire thing.
It's about the medical field.
Very nice.
And it got a lot of grant money to make it because it's about medical research.
And so it's, yeah, it was a very, very good thing to do working on, man.
Were you a part of the process of it or was the script done before it came to you?
The script was done before it came to me.
Like I say, I was an instructor at the school in the program.
But I, I had produced a lot of stuff, I mean.
And, uh, she came to me and I knew it was, I knew it was good.
So I just said, okay, let's go.
And I, basically, really, in that particular job, you sit back and let people do their work.
And it's terrific.
You know, I'm very used to being a part of the camera.
Very used to directing all kinds of stuff.
You've seen all my stuff.
So, you know, starting with, my stuff, starting with, you know,
ER years of that criminal minds, all that stuff.
That kind of stuff.
Plus movies.
So, it's great to come back and kind of just be here for it, you know,
to be in the position where you're able to take young people and get them going.
Oh, we're getting the high sign that we've got to let you go.
But before we do, my, my marketing guy was just behind you.
Now he's behind me.
Uh-oh.
So before about you go, give any plugs as you want to give for websites,
social media, anything like that.
Uh, I really don't have any.
I don't know nothing about that stuff.
Okay.
I'm a, I'm a boomer.
And I don't give a shit.
Okay.
That's fair.
Well, I found the Facebook page for sensitivity training.
So I've got a Facebook page for such a training.
There is one.
Uh, you can find me on, uh, on IMDB.
Found you there.
By the way, we were just discussing the release of the Wonder Woman box in.
Yep.
He was in one.
Okay.
Yeah, there's a new box that come out Tuesday.
The entire series and the 70s animated series.
All in one box set.
This coming week.
I'm thrilled.
Uh, the first one to buy.
There you go.
Well, thank you so much for joining us.
Absolutely.
Evening.
Yeah.
Okay.
Thank you.
Hate.
Hate.
I apologize.
It's okay.
Sometimes I can't read Don's handwriting.
That's my fault.
Enjoy the festival, sir.
Okay, boys.
All right.
You're listening to the clubhouse podcast.
We are live at the Angelica at Mockingbird Station.
This thing is moving and shaking.
People are in theaters to watch their films.
Oh, you need to take a breath.
Kelly Kitchen's just walked by me.
One of our favorite people in the entire world.
Is she?
Does that mean?
Are we wrapping up them?
No.
No, I'm saying Kelly's always our anchor, though.
Usually when Kelly's on, we're getting ready to take this thing home.
One of our favorite people in the entire world is joining us right now.
This woman is the Kevin Bacon.
Everything we do.
She is Kelly Kitchen's welcome friend.
Because I say that because there are two people that we can point to in the history of
this show that we can say without them none of this happens.
One of whom we are deeply entrenched in working with the city to get a bridge named after
being the great Gary Murray.
It's all over our social media.
Become a part of our petition to get this pedestrian bridges.
Right outside the Angelica names for him and you are the other one.
If it's not for the two of you, we're still stuck in a studio every week.
We haven't been in our studio in a month, Kelly.
Between the Texas pinball festival, two weeks at the dip last week at Earth X.
This week here, I haven't even put the studio back together.
Because I'm like, you know, I'm just got to tear it all back down anyway.
You know, we've done two shows.
We include this Sunday.
We've done two shows in the studio in the last six weeks.
Wow.
And this year has been amazing.
I'm so happy.
You know, we got to, I don't have to download it.
But we got to talk to Glenn Moore shower at the dip this year.
Oh, that's awesome.
And we talked about how our first year at the dip.
It's literally two ships passing in the night because you were taking care of him.
And you guys were leaving as we were coming in.
You could do it.
Not have been more amazing.
Isn't he wonderful?
He talked to us for 30 minutes.
Oh, yeah.
Have you seen the film yet?
No, I haven't.
Right now, I actually did a special edition of our show last week.
Taking all of our interviews and Donna and my talking about bomb city.
And we cut them all together.
Right now, this is my favorite film of the year.
Oh, my God.
Really?
Right now, as of right now, bomb city is my favorite film of the year.
It's the way I put it is normally when I watch a film.
I'm kind of sitting back in my chair and I'm kind of taking it all in.
Yeah.
I had not realized until about halfway that I was literally sitting forward the whole time.
Oh, yeah.
Like it had so in gross to me into the whole thing.
And then we got to talk to Leah Thompson was on the next week.
Oh, that's awesome.
At the dip.
The first time we'd ever done the show outside was at the dip this year.
Of course, the weather was gorgeous those two weeks.
It's because you were out on the West Coast doing your TCM.
How did TCM go?
Great.
Okay.
Can we talk about that first?
We can talk about whatever you want to my friend.
Okay.
Well, this was the eighth year, the eighth festival for a TCM classic film festival in Hollywood.
And this, I mean, it always shocks me every year when we are there.
And I'm sitting there and I tell Mark who's my husband.
I tell him, I can't believe we're here again.
I cannot believe we're here again.
We are so blessed.
We are so freaking blessed to be able to do what we love so much.
And do it well, my friend.
And well, and you know that that is our vacation.
I do not work that festival because I don't want to have to miss a movie which is what I'm doing now.
Because I'm working and I love my job.
I love to work in Hollywood.
So yeah, I have such a charm life.
It's so wonderful.
Back to TCM.
And I love that you actually get, you kind of dressed apart with your husband at the festival.
Because you know I follow you on social media, so I don't want to finish it.
Yes.
And you guys get to, you dressed up in the period.
I'm always at the period of the film you're seeing or just in general.
It started out the first four years when they announced the film.
Way, way in advance.
I gave me enough time to actually have dresses made in homage to the films.
So the first year I had a dress made in homage to Judy Garland's black and white dress that's in star's porn.
Because that was the opening night film.
You know what?
I'm going to stop you out there because I want to ask your opinion on something.
You know they're remaking it.
Yes.
With the Bradley Cooper in the Lady Gaga.
I think I've already answered the question because I wanted to see what your thoughts were going to be.
But they released the first till the other day that she released on her social media.
And I'm kind of like, you know what?
You need to, you've already read done that film once.
Let's leave it alone.
And then I saw this till and I'm like, you know what?
Can I tell you?
Back in reserve judgment.
This is actually, will be the fifth.
Telling of this story.
Really?
Yes.
There was a film.
And it was a pre-code film in 1931, 32 maybe.
Constance Bennett.
And...
Hmm.
Okay.
I can't remember who the man was.
But it was called What Price Hollywood.
I sound familiar.
She was a waitress at the Brown Derby.
And he was a big famous movie star.
It was not a musical.
It was, it was just a drama.
Then there was a film starring Janet Gainer and Frederick March.
And it was the first star as born.
It was not a musical.
So this will be the third musical.
After the...
After the Christmas stoppers in Barbara Streisand.
Barbara Streisand.
Yeah.
You know what?
Thank you.
Thank you.
Because I am not a fan of that woman.
I am just not she drives me crazy.
And to find somebody else that shares that with me makes me happy.
Well, I like some of her stuff.
But...
I can't say it's all bad.
I'm just, you know, I'm not going to go out of my way to seek out her stuff.
Yeah.
Like today, I was in the music at work.
And I do have, from my DJ days,
I do have the soundtrack to the Mirror has two faces.
Because that's a really good thing to play during a wedding during the dinner.
And one of her songs came up and I didn't skip it.
Progress.
And so if you know what?
This isn't a bad song.
I will...
Although I prefer to do it with Brian Adams.
The I finally found so much about her songs.
But this one I was like, you know what?
It's Hamwish.
I really can't skip it.
Because I'm a big Marvin Hamwish fan.
I'll get through this.
But anyways, it's back to the festival.
The first show you dressed from the stars.
Yes.
The stars were because that was an opening night film.
And to see Judy Garland,
who I think is the most amazing...
She's my favorite actress, my favorite singer, my favorite everything.
Of all time.
I mean, starting from when I was like three.
That was just a couple years ago.
Yes.
It's over.
But seeing her on a 40 foot screen at the...
Gromins, Chinese theater in Hollywood.
I've stood in front of it.
I know.
I was about to block away from the only time I ever got to go to LA.
It was I would do to turn and burn.
And so I had to get down to Hollywood over at that night.
But they were doing the premiere.
What was that?
Judy Foster film?
Was it the quiet one or something like that?
No.
No.
It was called like the quiet one.
This is Circus 2007ish.
They were actually doing the premiere that night.
So I couldn't get close enough two man's.
But I was standing in front of where they would normally do Kimmel.
So I could see her.
And they were doing the rehearsal for Kimmel because I was looking right through the door.
But that's as close as I've got.
I can't even imagine what it was like to be there.
Actually, see a film in there.
Well, and, but that's what started my, you know, I love, I love that period.
This 1954.
I have the, I'm going to say, I have the perfect body for 1954 clothes.
And I have the perfect body for a robe.
I am, I am going to leave it at that because it's probably really not true.
But I think it's true.
So that's good enough.
Hey.
And.
Who's here to tell you, otherwise?
So, you know, so that, that year.
I was awkward, guys.
That was really awkward.
I'm, I'm rolling with the great girl.
She's trying to mind my own business.
Well, you're, I'm like, the great girl.
Actually, she can say whatever she wants.
She has cart launch there.
Any way.
Get it back to my story.
Okay, Mr. Rob guy.
I'm being engaged in the interview, sir.
That's right.
He's listening.
That's right.
Because you've got to plug here in a minute, too.
Yes.
And.
But I want to tell my story.
I know you did.
I don't know my story.
Yeah, please do.
So, like the first four years, I had dresses made in homage to the films.
So, the second year I had had a dress made for American imparace.
Yeah.
Which we saw the musical version of that earlier this year.
Here.
And I heard that was wonderful.
Unbelievable.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I can't wait to see that.
Like the last 20 minutes, there's maybe four lines of dialogue.
Well, that's the way it was in the film.
I mean, and people were saying, like, it follows the film format very, very well.
That's, that was a very chance.
You know, it was a risky film.
Yeah, there was a lot of dares at that film took for its time.
Yeah.
And then you got to see that on the big screen, too.
Were the dresses you had made?
Were they all opening night films?
Or were there just films that were your favorites from the best?
They were my favorites from the festival.
Okay.
But both of those just happen to be opening night.
And so, you know, when they started to announce the festival or the line-up later and later,
I wasn't able to really do that.
But I have enough dresses and skirts in my wardrobe now that I can almost do that.
Like this year, there was a Harold Lloyd film, a called Speedy.
And Harold Lloyd, if you don't know, is a silent film.
I think he is my favorite silent film comedian.
Right up there with Mr. Keaton and Charlie Chaplin.
And I was wearing a dress that, I was wearing a skirt that had like a clock on it.
The clock was all the world.
That's his thing.
Right.
For those of you who don't know the image of him holding off the lid of the clock.
Yeah.
Hanging off the clock.
Well, so I had this skirt on.
And I was thinking of this skirt as being the my timeless skirt.
And it was full.
I mean, it is 1950's petty coat full.
Nice.
And so, I was thinking, this is my timeless dress because there's no hands on the clock.
So, it's my timeless, my timeless.
See what you did there?
Yeah.
I don't think so.
I'm right there with her.
But Linda Malton said,
Oh, is that in homage to Harold Lloyd?
And I was like, well, it is now.
For you under Malton?
Yes.
Now that you mentioned it.
Actually, I think my reaction would have been.
I'm so glad someone knows it.
I know.
I was busy telling my time.
I've been like, yes, Leonard Malton.
Well, I didn't even notice it was him.
I'm telling him what's saying it.
And I was like, I was like, oh, I saw him on TV another day.
And I was like, that dude has been at this board.
I mean, you know, he loves what he does.
I mean, I remember the first time I saw him on entertainment tonight.
I had to have been like in the fifth grade.
Yeah.
Still doing it.
Can I tell you that in in 2012?
At the TCM Classic Film Festival.
We saw 1931's Dracula with the last living person that was in the film.
Wow.
And it was Carla Limley.
She had a really small role.
She had like two lines.
And it was at the very beginning of the film when, when,
um, their harker is in the carriage.
You know, at the very very beginning of the film.
When he's on his way through the Carpathian Mountains up to the castle.
Yes.
And so she has two lines.
Well, she was 102.
God.
The night we saw that was April the 12th, 2012.
And Leonard Malton was interviewing her.
And he said, I understand you remember what seeing the headlines
when you were a baby that the Titanic had gone down.
And she said yes.
Wow.
She remember, she was wonderful.
She was Carla Limley's niece and lived, you know, with him.
And she was actually in, um, long chanies, um, um,
the pain of the opera in 1825.
She was one of the ballerinas.
And there when she was 14.
And it's like, it was seeing her.
Was when I was just amazing.
And I mean, she has since passed away.
She was, I think she was 104 105.
That's the heck of a run, no.
And now I know.
And she can tell us stories.
And it was just, it was just wonderful.
And I like the fact that there's a film festival that you get to go to.
And that you have this planned out every year that I'm going to go to this festival.
And I'm not doing anything work related.
This is my vacation.
This is my time to do what I want to do.
And you guys go and you do this thing.
Yes.
For those of you that don't, I mean, we have Kelly Kitchens on the show every time that we see her because she's one of our favorite people.
One of the best PR people in the business that I've ever met.
And I will tell you an example because this past fall, we have what we call the great flooded my house.
A ton of damage took weeks.
We're still trying to find everything.
No.
But in my, on my kitchen table, I still do this day.
Haven't since I'm my kitchen table and I see it every time I walk in.
You sent us one of the nicest.
Thank you cards.
I've ever gotten.
Since we've been doing this show and I have it to this day.
It looks like a little ticket.
And you wrote it with gold pen.
And every time I walk through my kitchen and I see it and I always stop to read it.
Because it's one of the nicest things that I've ever gotten as do from doing this show.
Well, you guys wrote me a Christmas card.
Two years ago that each of you took like a big long paragraph inside the Christmas card.
And I have that year round.
Oh, I'll take that.
Oh, it's folded so that I can see the outs.
You know, it doesn't have the Santa Claus, which I love Santa Claus.
But it's right there.
Hey real quick.
I got a question on the side note.
Can we can we help you out in October?
Yes.
Okay.
That was video fest.
Yes.
Well, in video fest.
In fact, just just, you know, video fest is going to be 30 this year.
Oh.
30.
And we were talking two weeks ago on the show that when we hit video fest this year,
that will be our fifth in our row.
And so that will start the cycle because the video fest was the first festival we did as you brought us to.
So that will start our fifth cycle of film festivals.
This is our second one here.
Yeah, we're things are going so well.
This year has been the, I think the craziest year we had so far.
And I want to do more stuff with y'all.
I'm just putting it on the record.
Well, we're going to see you next week for sure.
I've got it on my calendar.
You do.
Yes.
Because Don let me know because he raised it.
We're going to see this past weekend.
We're going to be doing a media roundtable with you on Wednesday night.
I got to email today.
So I think everything on my calendar.
But I will be there for sure.
Thank you.
And we're going to, we don't want to talk too much about it because I'm actually going to record it.
And then we're going to put it up next week of a really neat project that someone that you've known for a long time is working on.
We, we were in drama together at Cypher High School in Houston.
You in the Cypher?
My wife with the Cypher.
You're kidding.
Hand to God.
My wife, class 92, Cypher High School in Houston.
True story.
True story.
Yes.
My wife is a Cypher.
She was not.
She was, she was just like a rocker chick that was her bit.
Okay.
Well, yeah.
But I will have to tell Jen when I get home.
Well, yes.
Class of 86.
Oh, gosh.
That's David.
Five years.
Five years.
I know.
We call that first one the year the goat.
Remember?
In the media, in the media.
It was a media one.
Yes.
But the goat walking on the beans.
Oh, yeah.
Oh.
But we look at the year the goat.
We just walk into.
It was.
It was.
It was.
It feels like that was yesterday.
And you know what that that that was part of video fest.
Okay.
Can I just talk about video fest?
Yes.
Please do.
Because video fest is an amazing festival that started in the 80s.
When film festivals did not allow people who made their films on video to be submitted.
It had to be made on film.
And Bart Weiss, who is one of the greatest human beings we know.
Yeah.
Founder and artistic director, programmer extraordinaire, amazing guy.
He's a professor at UTA in the Arlington.
He said there is amazing stuff being made on video that people aren't seeing because
it's not being submitted.
Can't be submitted to film festivals.
So that's why he started that was video fest.
And including in that was was experimental and art film.
Which the goat thing they're talking about on the loop.
That was that was a part of the experimental side.
I like that lounge.
It was a nice little lounge too.
Wonderful.
Yeah.
It's now taco joint.
But let me just read the name of it.
Taco joint.
Yeah.
It is.
It's a name of the place.
Yeah.
Let's go to Taco joint.
Okay.
Okay.
Any time you want to meet there for lunch or breakfast or dinner.
I always have breakfast.
There were.
Anyway.
So.
Besides track.
So easily.
Yes.
But I want to tell you because this weekend is the Dallas media knowly.
Which is actually a part of the Dallas video fest.
They have moved all of their experimental videos to the Dallas media knowly.
Which is going on this weekend as well as the USA Film Festival.
So just have to throw a plug out there for that.
Because it is.
It's really, you know, all the stuff with the expanded cinema.
That was on the.
On the.
That's right.
There you go.
That was part of that was a part of all the experimental videos.
And he's doing another one in August.
Is he doing the cat thing this year again?
Yes.
We'll be doing the.
You can't.
We're calling it the.
F F F F F.
First.
The line.
Film Festival.
The.
The.
It's all.
Videos.
Which is really what the internet was founded on.
You just call it.
Well.
Sounds like.
Sounds like.
Yeah.
I have two at the house.
Trust me.
Well.
Okay.
Did you come last year?
I did not.
We found out too late last year.
And I know.
I was out of town.
Okay.
Is my wife gets windows she'll be there.
That, uh, Oh, that was a great.
A fundraiser for video test because we packed out the text.
This is the reader.
With cat lovers and I'm sorry.
I'm sorry to say I am not a cat lover.
I'm a dog person.
But I love cat videos.
That.
Was I saw wait just first saying that?
This...?
Is that going to be a drop?
I love that video.
Yeah, they're so freaking funny.
I am...
Yeah, I mean, I love to laugh.
I don't know if you've been there that bad.
I've never had the slightest idea.
I laughed so hard
in that, during that whole chunk of time,
where all those teeny little cat videos that I was just crying,
it was to wear a no sound or sound.
One of my favorite videos I posted on social media
in the last year was somebody had recreated Batman versus Superman
with cats.
No.
It's one of the funniest things I've ever seen in my life.
It's all my Facebook page somewhere.
I have to find it.
Somebody tagged me and I was like,
and it's just like, they're not even trying.
They put the costumes like one cat like falls over and says,
oh, I'm hurt.
And she's just kind of rolling around.
It kind of gives her amazing.
Even if you don't like cats, they're funny because they're cats.
And because they will do whatever the hell they want to do.
Yeah.
I heard a wise man once said,
dogs have owners.
Cats have staff.
Yeah.
And that is absolute God on it's true.
Like I will come like two-fluss.
Our two boys.
My two boys.
Their two boys.
It's Jen's home.
They're all about her.
I'm home.
You can feed me.
And might snuggle with you till mom gets home.
But other than that, we're good.
They're bad.
That's how it is.
Is that surprised you with Hunter?
The battle cat?
No.
Yeah.
Our bigger one.
He's just too close from how to train her.
Yeah, our two-fluss.
He's really really good.
He's, yeah.
Well, his big breed is that big.
Then Jasper is a smaller one.
But he's 14 pounds.
I mean, I have two mountain lions living in my home.
Basically.
So anything else you want to plug before we wrap this up?
Because we love having you.
Yeah.
But you've got to work too.
Yeah.
Well, all my people are in the film.
So, you know, I'm just thrilled to be here.
And this year for me is very busy as well.
Can I just tell you that?
So I will be working the frame for frame festival, which is in September in Arlington.
I'll be working the Sheaed Persian Film Festival, which is also in September.
In August, I'll be working.
She did not curse just now.
Just saying, you know.
She did.
She did.
She did.
She did.
And I'm sorry.
I don't remember what it means.
Okay.
Persian Film Festival.
Anyway.
And I'll be working the McKinney Classic Film Festival at the end of August.
And then of course, video fest.
So, got a busy and busy end of the summer and fall.
Coming up and I just couldn't be more thrilled.
And so, I make sure you give all the plugs for everything because you can never be too busy
and you're working your line of work.
Right.
So people need PR.
How do they get to you?
Okay.
I'm Kelly Kitchens.
And my email is Kelly with a Y at Kelly Kitchens PR.
So it's K-E-L-O-I at K-E-L-O-Y.
K-I-T-C-H-E-N-S.
PR is in publicrelations.com.
And you can find me on Twitter.
Kelly J-Kit.
Kelly with a Y J-Kit K-I-T.
And I'm on Facebook.
If you go to the URL, it's facebook.com slash Kelly Kitchens.
But you'll really see, you'll say,
wait.
It's Kelly J-Kitchens.
Wikersham is my full name.
But I go by Kelly Kitchens.
But I remember, is it?
Yeah.
Anyway.
Okay.
If I do this, Rob would probably thump me on the head,
but he's out of my arms recently.
But here's the thing.
Usually, I'm going to speak for all three of us.
Yeah.
If there's anything in the future,
you need from us.
Let us know.
I'm putting us on record.
We'll do it for you.
Okay.
Anything.
Because again, I said earlier.
There's two people.
Her and Gary.
Without the two of them,
we're nowhere close to where we are now.
Ah.
And so, you dance with the one that brought you.
Well, I'm in such a good company,
so let me end with Gary.
Yeah.
Gary.
You're a go this past weekend.
He was such a delight.
And he continues to delight me
because I just have such amazing memories
of working with him.
And things will come to mind.
And I'll just start laughing
because something that he said, something he did.
Or, you know, when I went and took his defensive driving,
comedy class.
And, you know, I was laughing and he was like,
hey, you need to come back every week.
Because I said on the show two weeks ago,
he was cookie, but he was art cookie.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Like he was part of this fraternity
of insority of people
that is known as the Dallas media.
Yeah.
And I want to say this.
You are the one person.
I spilled the beans on because when he gave me a list of all
the vendors.
Yeah.
He said, just don't say where you got their information
from where we said it out.
And you're the one person.
Because you kept on asking.
Well, you know, and that's fine.
Because you were saying, who are these guys?
Where did you get it?
Where did you get it?
But you know, and I kind of said,
I can't tell you.
But then I kind of told you without telling you.
And then I had it like,
by the way, I like Kelly,
no, and he said, oh, that's fine.
But you're the one person.
Good.
And I was so thrilled to know
because I tell you, you know,
my business, this 95% of my business comes from referrals.
And there's really only been two clients that I've gone after myself.
And that was the Angelica Film Center when it first opened
in 2001.
And I'm at Alamedraft House.
Everything else for 22 years.
I just celebrated my 20 second year of having my
a business on April Fool's Day.
And I'm not really meant to go into business for myself.
But when you're good at what you do,
I know.
And you love what you do.
You never work with a day in your life.
Exactly.
And I love what I do.
And you know, I say that sometimes the most foolish decisions,
because it was a very foolish decision for me
to leave a paying job.
$300 in my account and go start,
quote, unquote, working for myself.
Some of the most foolish decisions
in that being the wisest ones,
because I'm doing exactly what I feel like
what put me on this.
You're living the dream.
I mean, we cannot be more thankful for you, my friend.
Anytime that we get a chance to hang out with you,
we will do it because you're just,
you're good for people.
Like you're always upbeat,
and that's infectious to other people.
And then we get to sit down and talk to you.
Because we don't get a whole lot of time to sit down and talk to you.
Just because we're always going 12 drugs.
Because you're going 19 directions.
Yeah.
Anytime that we get a chance to sit down and talk to you,
I will take it.
And I'm going to go let you relax for a little while
until they're on slide.
Kelly Kitchens ladies and gentlemen.
She's going to pull you out with her.
Okay, okay.
She can still go do what she could do,
and we'll wrap it up.
We're going to wrap up with her.
Okay, fair enough.
I'm making your decision.
Another rock solid job, sir.
Thank you.
This is now put five in a row or four out of five
with a pretty big name,
because when we detects a pinball festival,
we got Sam J Jones.
And we also got Ed Robertson from Baron Acid Ladies.
So he came and did this show at absolutely melted my brain.
He was so amazing.
And then we had Glenn.
And then we had Tomson.
And then tonight,
we make up for not having somebody big last week with two people,
because we had Marilyn Rice.
We had the,
we had that thing in the car.
That saved the whales guy.
Oh, yeah, they got it.
Founded a sea shepherd.
Oh, yeah.
So that counts.
And we got, got a plug from that.
From my friend overseas.
Nick, who is a member of sea shepherd UK.
He actually linked our website on his Facebook page.
Hey, we need to save that little.
Don't have a cow down.
I'm going to isolate that for you, John.
I promise.
I promise.
I will isolate that for somebody.
Just got a new ring to it.
Yeah.
I'm sure.
Oh, that's an idea.
Thank you.
I want to do that.
That's why it's actually wanted it.
No, I just wanted her to say it.
Now it's on wax.
Cause three years ago when Harry Schuyer was there,
we're talking to the theater up front in just after the thing.
And just saying,
get me in the Gary,
we're talking to him, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Like what you say,
don't have a cow down.
I mean,
it's amazing.
It's amazing.
This thing just keeps going like it does.
And the fact we were talking in the beginning of the show,
we are nine episodes away from 400.
Wow.
And with our iTunes exclusives,
we are 15 episodes away from 300 reviews.
And I don't know if you heard this before you came on.
We got to tell her,
May 18th.
The Texas High School Musical Awards,
recovery,
not for the first time.
And I don't know if you heard this before you came on.
The Texas High School Musical Awards,
recovery, not for the second year.
Oh, that's a last year.
We just kind of put a seed out there,
just to see where it would go.
I kept it going.
I kept it going.
It has come to fruition.
It's official May 18th during the Texas High School Musical Awards
for the first time ever they are giving away an award for social media.
We will be presenting that award during the show.
You're kidding.
We're doing it.
We're doing it.
He and we've got some ideas of how we're going to do it.
And just kind of cool.
He wants to get a toxic.
If he's going to get a toxic,
we're thinking dumb or dumb or dumb,
yeah.
They were going to get too into it.
That's still not my colors.
I'm more of an eye contact.
I always put that seed in France.
I always put that seed in France.
It's growing.
It's so crazy with lots of Jordan.
For instance, Jordan.
I said we don't care if it's best jinnaker.
We just want to do an award.
And we just threw it in.
And the first kid was like,
I'm not not.
And then it started to pick up seamies like,
you know what I'm in.
So we're going to present,
We're going to be a warp for centers.
That's great.
I just do the show.
Plus the show.
And we'll be covering it again.
And we will do a pre-show.
And then we take all the gear and move it back to the green room.
And then we interview the winners as they come through.
Such a fun show last year.
And this year, we're going to next level it.
So that's very cool.
Anything else down before we close this thing out?
It's also the shortest show we've done about a month.
Our second dip show went almost three out.
Wow.
Actually, it went over three out.
Yeah, three, three and a half.
That's so cool.
Because we went on a little earlier than we probably should.
The FS honors ran really late.
Yeah.
All right.
So let me queue up so we can do the plugs.
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And some stuff you don't.
But USA Film Festival going on all weekend long.
Come down to the Angelic at Mockingbird Station.
Tons of movies, shorts, all kinds of stuff going on.
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I promise you that.
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Six-Nine.
Kelly's got her plugs already out there.
Did she guys all out there?
One last plug?
Kelly.
Kelly.
Kelly.
Kelly.
Just googling.
That many kills.
Kelly.
Kelly.
Kelly.
Kelly.
Kelly.
Kelly.
Kelly.
Kelly.
Kelly.
To be continued.
Naturally, tonight we see models getting done at the Clubhouse podcast.
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Collection now.
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And if you've got a chance to deliver Newément from the Social Lab.
Leave that in the comments.
I'm Chad, the Clubhouse podcast.com.
Shuttle Parker is dangerous because we're morally obligated to say that.
that we will be doing before the paper view.
And after that, things might be back to abnormal.
You never know.
So until next time, for Don, for Kelly, for Chad,
for the Empire, I'm Rob, Clubhouse's close.
Get me Brittany Palmer on this show.