iTunes Exclusive Episode The Secret Life Of Walter Mitty
Robin, Chad, and Don review Ben Stiller's 2013 film The Secret Life of Walter Mitty, a remake of the 1947 Danny Kaye film based on James Thurber's short story. The hosts discuss Stiller's dual role as director and star, praise the cinematography and scenery, and debate the performances of the ensemble cast including Kristen Wiig, Adam Scott, and Sean Penn. They find the film solid but wish for more daydreaming sequences and greater spectacle.
About this episode
Key takeaways
- The film adapts a short story into a two-hour feature with a simplistic plot that maintains viewer engagement through strong storytelling
- Ben Stiller's direction emphasizes human drama over spectacle, focusing on character growth rather than the grandiose set pieces shown in trailers
- Kristen Wiig delivers an unexpectedly strong comedic performance with genuine heart in a role that could have been flat and one-dimensional
- Cinematographer Stuart Drybrake's work on Iceland locations and volcano sequences provides some of the film's most striking visual moments
- Sean Penn nearly steals the film in a brief but impactful role, delivering the right lines and character moments with restraint
Q&A
What is Walter Mitty's job at Life magazine?
He is a negative processing manager who takes film negatives and processes them.
What is the central plot conflict?
Frame 25 from photographer Sean O'Connell's film canister is missing, and it was supposed to be the cover of Life magazine's final issue before going online.
Would the hosts see this film again?
All three would see it again, but mainly through home viewing options like cable, Netflix, or DVD rather than theatrical re-release.
Who directed the original 1947 version?
The original starred Danny Kaye and was produced by Samuel Goldwyn.
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You're able to make me laugh to this song, which I love dearly. I love this song. I love it.
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There's usually a reason for it. And this reason, of course, we're going to be reviewing another movie. That by the time you hear this, we'll be available to you in theaters.
And it is a remake of a film that starred Danny K. In 1947. Here in 2013, we have a new version of it.
It is called the Secret Life of Walter Mitty. It stars and was directed by Ben Stiller based on the short story by James Thurber. It also stars Kristen Weag Adam Scott.
Shirley McClain. And the great Sean Penn. The three of us got to see this early courtesy of our friends at Allied Integrated Marketing, who we are huge fans of.
And we thank them for the opportunities they give us as often as they give them to us. So let's start talking about this film. Let us talk first of all about the story itself.
Chad, we're going to start with you. What did you feel about the story of the Secret Life of Walter Mitty? You get caught up in it relatively quickly.
You know, and it's... Get nice. Well played.
You're welcome America. Great song too. I love you.
I love you. I love you. The only thing that kind of took me out of the story itself was the...
It's almost like a pre-work was it Ben Stiller Convention, which is what. That there always has to be these moments where he's... He's in a moment that makes him feel awkward and uncomfortable and he projects that onto everybody watching it.
But I don't think he did that as often as he's done in the past. No, but he's kind of made a career out of that. And I was like, really, we got to do this again with Stiller.
Okay. I guess it's part for the course. But that's also the character too.
Well, Walter Mitty as a character. Because I watched the original as a kid and I loved it. How you can make a two-hour movie out of a short story.
Still it mases me in this day and it happens a lot more than you think. But it's still a mases me. The character of Walter Mitty, if you don't know, Walter Mitty is a guy who works for Life magazine.
And this in Carnation. Yes, yes. He is a negative processing manager, which means he takes negatives of film and...
Processes them into... And so what happens is, we are approaching Life magazine doing their final issue. Because they're getting bought out and going online, and Adam Scott plays the director of the transition.
And so they want this last cover of the last issue of Life magazine to be the quintessence, which is a word that's thrown around a lot in the film. From a photographer named Sean O'Connell. She did.
She did. It's O'Connell. It's O'Connell.
Played by the great Sean Penn. And if you know me, I don't say that very much about that name. And we're going to get to that here in a minute.
So O'Connell sends them a canister of film. And frame 25 is supposed to be the one that's going to be the cover of the last. Issue of Life.
Except for one small problem. Frame 25 is not there. Oops.
It's not on the wall. And so Walter, who spends a lot of his time day dreaming, that he is all of these things that he is not. Kind of zones out.
And that kind of plays a part of the film. And leaves in the dream world. Right.
He decides that he's going to find this frame. He is over 16 years of working for Life magazine, developed a very good rapport with O'Connell, even though they've never met. He is always respected, and many for the work he's done.
And so many goes on this adventure to find this frame of film. All the while trying to figure out how to woo over. Cheryl Milhoff played by Kristen Week.
And there's a nice subplot in there with Matt with eHarmony.com. And I'm not going to go into you to need to see in the film. And for the record.
And for the record. I called that as soon as I heard the voice. I guess for me, that was the awkwardness is part of the MIDI character.
It's that whole, I mean, if you're going to have somebody be a modern day Walter MIDI, I think that stillers a good choice. Because he encompasses that I can be meek, but I can still make a difference kind of a film. Well, you know who was originally pegged for this thing?
No. This thing has been in development hell. For years.
I know they've been trying to remake it for years. And since 94. Oh yeah.
Carry. I wouldn't have been okay with him in this role. I would have been fine with it.
I think I think carry would have been two over the top. Well, but you know, this is also 1994 carry. Who?
Kind of. Sasha Baron Cohen was attached to us. Yes, he was.
Owen Wilson was attached to it. Yo Hanson was the front runner as the female lead for a while. Do you know, Gore for Benzki was going to direct it in, whenever he was attached in June of 2010.
But remained on as a producer because we caught that in the credits at the end. He was always considered as well. So this thing's just been through very nice.
You're welcome. That was your welcome internet. You know, and then it kind of got passed over from Samuel Goldwyn to John Goldwyn to, I guess, Samuel Goldwyn Jr.
It just kind of got handed around back and forth in the family. Because the original producer Samuel Goldwyn produced the original. So it kind of came full circle.
I'd like this. I'd like, I'll go ahead. Sorry, don't please.
My initial thoughts. I saw the trailer along two-minute trailer. Uh-huh.
In a trignee, especially that shot with Sean Penn from the picture saying, Come on. Very, very force gumping in some of the effects. Yeah, but I was really intrigued by the trailer.
So I was really kind of, I got to see this kind of film. And it's not exactly what I expected from the trailer or what I thought it would be, but I was very intrigued and I did like what they did with it. I would, I think, Ben Stiller, I think he was the right guy for the film for this role.
I will say that right now. My thing with it was, for it to be the secret life of Walter Mitty, there wasn't enough of the day dreaming. Where that was more of the focus in the original with Danny K.
But I thought the movie flowed very well. It did not seem long to me. It did not seem boring.
Well, it's not very long. It wasn't too out. Yes.
But I think it flowed well. I think a lot of this movie I think was done right for what it is. It's a very, when you think about it, I say this after the screening, but you guys is that it's a very kind of simplistic plot, but they made a great story out of it.
I will say this one thing I have to say to people who are like me, who love shots in incredible scenery. You got to see this film on that. That's going to segue us into Stiller as a director.
But before we get to that, somebody that Chad mentioned last night, and he's like, where have I seen that guy, who's kind of his sidekick, Adrian Martinez. He was in kick ass. Okay.
Okay. I had a very understated but great performance from him as well. I mean, this guy's got a lot of skins on the wall, going back almost 20 years.
So, I know that was bucking you last night. Yeah. It was driving me nuts.
So that's segue that into Stiller as a director, because I want to separate Stiller as the director and Stiller as the actor. Because he does tend to direct himself a lot, especially in the last few years. Don, let's start with you.
What did you feel with Stiller's vision of the film? I, I was surprised he's able to direct it and Starr as much as he did in his film. You know, it's not unheard of, but he's done that as far back as reality.
Yeah. And, but the thing about this film, I can't say it enough. I love so many of the shots they did, so much of the scenery they did, so much of the special effects that they did.
And that during most of the film, I'd say 90s, some percent of the film. I did, I was feeling like there's no CGI even though he could tell there's a couple shots of CGI put in there. But if you like the panoramic stuff, incredible film, I thought it full good for a short, for short story.
It kept you for a simplistic plot. It kept me really into the film. And I was really pleasantly surprised on the thing.
I thought Stiller's direction was very good. I wouldn't call it great, but I would call it very good. I think that he understood the vision that he wanted for it, and I think that he translated that well.
It is even though he's done it a number of times. One of the toughest things that I've read about, and Hollywood, is to direct yourself, because you're not, you can't watch yourself as you're filming yourself. So you have to rely on having a good director of photography.
That's going to help you out. That's why I'm looking up. Chad, how did you feel about Stiller's vision of the film?
I'm kind of in the same boat with Don to where I was kind of expecting a little bit more spectacle. And I think that you have every right to be, because the trailer really makes it look, again, it makes it look very forced, and you didn't, I don't think you ever truly got that. No, I mean, you got a couple of whiz bank scenes that you got totally caught up in one involving a toy that I was very fond of in my youth.
Yes. Stiller's photography was by a Stuart Dryberg, who you would know him from, he did an episode of Lock, which is a great show. I don't know how she does it.
Texas killing films. He did an episode of Boardwalk Empire. No reservations.
Young flu. You're welcome. Really do.
Yep. He was, he was director of photography on Bridget Jones's diary, runaway bride, analyzed this portrait of a lady, the piano. The guy's got skins on the wall.
That seemed like this has been his, I don't know, the most grand scale film he's done. Could be, you could see it that way. You know, just, the shots of the, the volcano and that, that, that sequence was amazing to me.
Again, that was, that was one of those set pieces. We were like, okay, this is what I'm, this is what I've been waiting for. And things really truck.
But, but I think Stiller was looking more from the human aspect of it. I think that's why. That's why I liked about it.
It is a real human story to it. About the sky has been so, in this little world, the not really experiencing anything who just goes, Kapoo and does, would stuff that a lot of people don't do their lifetime within a month. But I think if you, when you aim something as a Christmas day release, you got to kind of bring your A game.
And, this isn't a bad film. By any stretch of the imagination. It's not a bad film at all.
But, I don't know, it just, it's just kind of lift me. Wanting more. Fair enough.
Well, then let's start with you on the performances. It's, it's Stiller being Stiller. You know, he tends to, recycle his performance.
I definitely did not see him immersed in the role. No, he was, he was been Stiller. He could have been the same guy he played and not at the museum, as far as I'm concerned.
Which is getting another installment, by the way. I've got no problem with it. I enjoy those films.
Uh, but, the one that really shocked me, and did, didn't he? Is the week. You know me, I have a crush on you.
And I'm not really a fan of her. comedic work, but then I haven't seen the Bridesmaid. Some people tell me you really can't judge her body of war.
Wonderful. Fairly unless you've seen that. Uh, but she took a character that could be fairly flat and one dimensional.
And she kind of breathes some life into it. And I didn't think somebody like her was capable of doing. Well, she, she brought it.
How can I say it? She brought it to a human level. Yeah.
And you didn't get enough of her in mind. She could be downed downed side to her performance. And so I don't think you've got enough of it because goodness knows he spent the majority of this film trying to impress her.
And you know, there's a scene that involves a very great song. um, played on a 12 string guitar, by the week, and I would be surprised. You truly played that.
I would be a cruises incredibly talented. Um, and you're like, this is what's driving him. And I just don't feel like you got enough of her constantly Constantly driving him you know this you've got little bits and pieces of it I just I don't think she she got to really shine and I think she was really trying to I didn't it didn't feel for She was the voice of low-lobunny on the the new looney tune show Did I know that I will say that's about your point about driving him I think it's some more of not just the Kristen we character pushing him but it's just himself to This one thing I'm going to know, but she is but she's the driving officer Yeah, I mean, she is the inspiration behind it.
She is I have to vote evasion But I will say Technic stint and some parts some parts I respectfully disagree because I think this guy here has been so sheltered Said this one thing I'm going to do I'm going to do this no matter what I have to do no matter where I have to go No, it was a personal drive of him to finally just break out I'm gonna do this one thing I agree with you, but There's a specific moment in the film Where he even says later in the film This is what drove me to do this. That's why by that happening then this happened then this happened then this happened I thought her performance was amazing. Yeah, I love the week anyway, but to me it wasn't It wasn't above par for me for her because I hold her to a high standard Because I've watched her for so long Her as comedic actress.
Yeah, but but I've never seen her do see her do something with heart and and for that I would take you back to her final epist the final sketch in her final episode on SNL Where it Mick Jagger was the host and The the basis of the sketch was he's playing with a band on a stage and As they open the stage Each member of the cast comes out in dances with her for just a few moments as they kind of Pass you as it's kind of her send off right? There was so much heart and that sketch that you saw come from her Especially at the moment that suit date this comes up to dance with her It it broke me down. Well, it but at that point isn't really a sketch anymore But but it showed how she could convey that emotion into a way that you could see it visibly Yeah, but she wasn't faking it.
That was true wrong, but but again though Some actors can't pull that off on raw emotion Because there's some people are just so guarded they don't want people to see that side of them The fact that she's willing to be that vulnerable showed me that she could do it on an acting front Well, but see and in a situation like that is she acting or is she reacting But again the fact that she's willing to convey it on camera and show that vulnerability tells me that she's she's willing to take it there She doesn't strike me as a kind of person that would keep herself that guarded in a in a moment like that to where she's like no I can't I can't show this show this much of myself. I will say the downside of the acting to me And as much as I like this guy Adam Scott didn't do much for me in this film. He's just he's just kind of played your And I like Adam Scott.
I truly love him for barks. I love him on parks and right. I've seen him in other things His his character to me if you're going to be an antagonist I need to see more from you Anybody could for that for the payoff and I don't blame Adam Scott.
I blame that script because I Needed to hate him more than I did so that when the payoff comes and the antagonist gets the better or the pro-tag honest It's the better of him. I Want to feel more more vindicated than I did I will say one thing and I look back at it They had For Sean Penn's character He said the right things and had it for the he almost he almost stole the film for me and he have a lot of opportunity to do it But he ain't pretty almost did it because considering it's always been through pictures, but I'm not going to be spoiler or anything He was in there. I think the perfect amount of time and said the perfect things and played perfect part for what it is for me I'm not a huge Sean Penn fan.
I find him to be very pretentious And but in this film Even important yes in this film the way he played Sean O'Connell I was able to put all of that to the side and to see that moment that He has I Again almost steals the film tries real hard Um He almost steals it and in about three minutes and I told you I said I could very easily have seen depth playing that role And then I see for Benzki's name come up and I was like oh wow They probably could have it one well then but then I just read why for Benzki didn't do this What was he directing? They came out this year with Johnny. Oh, yeah long-range or torpedo that plan Sorry about that.
No, I think pen was perfect. I think they got a good pick with absolutely great job. Great job Okay, final analysis What we do on this show We like you more than just to give you the generic thumbs-up thumbs-down Here's a number here's a star system Uh, you're the Empire.
You hold us to a hydrogen in that and we're gonna reach that standard The way we give you final analysis on what we're gonna try real hard The way we give final analysis on this show it is a two-prong process the first question is would you see this film again? If the answer to that is no we move on if the answer to that is yes I would like to know personally how would you watch this film again? Would you watch it from the concept of an evening show?
Would you see that it's quite light show a matinee show? Would you wait for it on DVD? Would you wait for it on cable?
So don't we're gonna start with you? Did you like this film? Would you see it again?
Yes, I did like it. You would see it again. Yes, I would.
How would you see it again? I think I like this more than you you two did overall. Okay, and I just really fell for this and I It's gonna take a long time for me to really know and find out why and let's think in but I would I would see it As For me racing movies especially at night, it's not very often but I'd say a matinee or maybe a four or five A clock or but yeah, but I would recommend it full screening for everybody else.
Okay, chat I'm I'm more along the lines of I'd wait for this on Netflix or stars or something. I'd see it again, but I wouldn't rush out to see it again for me I would see it again I'm like you though. I think I might wait for it on cable It'd be kind of a nice stay at home moving night with the lovely and talented Mrs Irvine.
Yeah, I think she would go ahead. I do too But I don't know that I'd see it in a theater again. There's nothing that really warranted me seeing it in a theater right again But if it was on I'd stop down.
I wouldn't turn it off. No I'd watch it again just to see maybe there are things that I missed. Yeah Because that's the kind of film that I think you probably did It's pretty dits and and another thing that we forgot to mention I will own the soundtrack Yeah, oh yeah Wonderful wonderful soundtrack.
Yeah, you may never hear the human league again the same But When I think the soundtrack really is Character just like in the show It just it carries the story in times where nobody has to say anything But one thing we had to say DOSBOOT DOSBOOT makes you the parents in this film and I don't mean the movie. I mean if you've seen beer if you've seen beer fast It's a rock so that if you've seen beer fast by ball one thing I haven't done yet I you know Since we're getting to the end of this thing. I want to think you're by the allied They are friends and we love them Totally think I want to think you're ready for them.
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