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Welcome.
My name is Rob I am the executive producer of the clubhouse podcast and I enjoy print media.
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But I'm not alone for this particular episode joining me across the desk as he does from time to time is the official fact checker of this show.
And a man that he gets to Sunday people for the fun he's but then again don't we all.
You may know him as fond don go but his mom I name him Don Ford I'm gonna call him Don Ford welcome sir.
I get more for the Sudoku.
See I'm not a Sudoku.
Oh I am.
The lovely and talented Mrs. Irvin will Sudoku to the cows come home so it frustrates me.
Did I tell you that my father on offer Christmas got a Rubik's cube that's also a Sudoku.
Really?
So you have to have the nine numbers on each side.
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I'm gonna throw it at you.
I'm let you know and it will hurt.
Whatever we do one of these it is to review something and this is no different.
Powerhouse team put together for this.
Meryl Streep Tom Hanks Sarah Paulson Bradley Whitford Bruce Greenwood Bob Odin Kirk David Cross Jesse Plemons Steven Spielberg.
It's the post.
Are we start this whole thing?
Yes sir.
We got to thank Josh and everybody at Allied Integrated Marketing.
Some of our favorite people we loved them to death because they let us see movies early so we can talk to you about them.
And when I say early brother I mean early.
Now you saw the early and I missed that screening but I got a screener copies.
I saw this about 60 days before release.
But I said on a screener so I missed the screening but still I want to thank Josh.
Shout out to the people that send a screeners for that stuff.
This is the true story of the Pentagon papers.
Tom Hanks plays Ben Bradley, Meryl Streep plays K-Gram.
K-Gram was the very first female owner of a newspaper in American history which after her husband died she beat you ran the newspaper.
And there was a reporter in Vietnam who comes across a series of reports after he's been embedded there.
He has access to a lot of stuff and he comes across these reports showing a conspiracy about the American involvement in Vietnam that goes back four presidencies.
He leaks these originally to the New York Times.
The New York Times runs the story lands in hot water with the federal government.
But then the papers also land in the lap of the Washington Post which is where Ben Bradley works in K-Gram owns.
Then it becomes the question of freedom of the press versus violations of national security.
To the point where the president himself at that time Richard Nixon gets involved.
This runs just under two hours.
It goes clear to the Supreme Court on this.
Correct.
Based up to events and all that.
Called the Pentagon Papers.
This was the incident that was called this.
I loved this film.
This was a film that I was a little skeptical going in because these are some heavy hitters.
You know, you're seeing this.
This is going to be the film that Spielberg is going to get the awards push for.
We get it just like he did with Bridge of Spies before it.
But this is a film that really, really works well on its own.
Like to the point of I was riveted the entire time during this film.
What do you think, sir?
I differ.
How's that?
Still good.
Don't be wrong.
Great acting.
You know what you're going to get with these actors.
I'm going to address that here in a minute.
But to slow moving to the big speed up at the end.
Really?
Yeah.
Some people agree with me on this.
Oh, I'm sure.
And you can kind of see my point.
I mean, it built the foundation too long.
In this case, I liked it that way.
I didn't.
No, it's fair.
Do you drag you at the beginning for the first hour?
I mean, 20 minutes can be cut out of this film.
I'll be honest with you.
No, I mean, no.
That's all we ask on this show.
And you know, you always hear my gripping.
I'm going to say it on this.
This, when they do the lifetime achievements of Hanks and Streep and Spielberg,
they're not going to show this film along with Shindler's List and Jaws and Close Encounter for Spielberg.
But they're going to get all the Oscar nods because it's an Oscar dollar.
Six Golden Globe nominations.
And then deserve that many.
Well, it didn't win any of them.
Good.
I mean, it was.
Good Lord.
If you get a little venomous over there.
Well, my thing is, like I said earlier,
maybe it sounds like Franco, he might not get the push because of films like this,
because it's a.
It's a hate.
But I'll tell you, though,
one of them that I believe is deserve.
Merrill Streep crushes it in this film.
Merrill Streep, who's always good.
Don't get me wrong because you're right.
You have a certain level of expectation,
which I think in this case does hurt it a little bit.
Because I love Tom Hanks.
I'm a huge Tom Hanks fan.
Have been for decades.
And the Oscar she won is.
But this is par for the course for him.
But again, the bar you set for a guy like Tom Hanks is really high to begin with.
So for that, for me to say this is par for the course for him,
it's still 20 to 30 percent better than most of Hollywood.
Merrill Streep same thing.
But her performance in this is so good
because she plays a woman who has to balance between the grief she's feeling
with the loss of her husband.
And the strength she has to carry to make the executive decisions.
While she's getting hit from all sides that are telling her that this is a horrible idea,
she could land herself in prison,
ruin jobs for everybody.
While Hanks is character, Ben Bradley's going,
you know what?
We have a right, the American people have a right to this knowledge.
The give and take there, I think, is great.
Spielberg's always going to be Spielberg.
Yeah.
I mean, again, that's a bar you set very high.
But you've got a great cast in this.
Bradley Whitford, who I'm a huge fan of,
is really, really good with in this,
as kind of her self-appointed right hand,
who she's not sure that she needs a right hand,
but he's there anyway.
You've got both, like I said earlier, Bob Odenkirk and David Cross.
Yeah, Bruce Greenwoody.
I mean, you got the heavy hipster.
Mr. Show is both of its hosts in this.
Allison Breeze in this as well.
So you take Philadelphia and Forrest Gump.
Oscars, he won for that.
Back to back.
He deserved it.
Don't get me wrong on that.
But this is not in that caliber.
No, I agree with you.
But again, I think that in the pantheon of things,
Tom Hanks at 60% is still better than most of Hollywood at 90.
But I think I saw more better performances out there.
And I think that there's going to be some performances out there
that won't get the nomination because we have put Hanks up there.
We have to put Streep up there.
Yeah, but that's not for us to say.
Yeah, I know.
You want to give us a ballot.
We'll vote all day long.
Exactly.
But, you know, we were able to recognize it as part of being
North Texas film critics.
Yes.
This was part of our awards this year,
or this past year.
I just, I thought that this script was really, really strong.
And I've actually talked to a couple of people
that I've actually had to correct on this film.
Because people are going into this thinking this is about watergate.
And it's not.
It's about the events that led up to, you know,
the thing it took away.
Right.
And I had, like, you know, our normal coach, Chad,
who's not with us tonight, he's not feeling well,
he actually said to me,
it ends where it should have started.
I'm like, no, because it's not about,
because it ends with the watergate break-in happening.
It's not about watergate.
It's about the Pentagon papers, which is, I mean,
everybody knows the story of watergate.
It's been told a billion times.
It's been told a billion times.
Right.
Yeah.
Follow the money.
This is a different story that doesn't,
it hasn't really been told to my knowledge on this level.
And I found this story fascinating,
which is why I think I differ with you
when it comes to the pacing of it.
I liked all of the foundation work,
because this story hasn't been told as much.
And I think that Spielberg made a conscious choice
and said, look, we're going to do it this way
because people need to know more about this story.
I can see where it might bog you down.
Yeah.
But it didn't bog me down.
I was, I was glued the entire time.
The last half of the film, I loved.
I loved it.
I thought it was, I did like it.
They should have seen the trailer where the kid goes,
isn't that kind of, you know, against the law?
And he goes, it's a newspaper.
What do you think we do here?
Watch it.
What was your watch cage?
Can you remember?
Probably.
I mean, it was deep.
It was probably 40 minutes.
Okay.
So again, I was, I was riveted by this film.
When you have actors at a cast of this character,
Sarah Paulson plays Tom Hanks' character's wife,
very understated in this film,
you have this kind of a ensemble cast.
You have to have a strong script behind it.
And for me, this script was really, really strong.
It just, it gave everybody a chance to do what they do.
Nobody overshadowed anybody else.
I thought, I loved everything about it.
And it was written by Liz Hanna and Josh Singer.
Liz Hanna was also, and both of them also producers on the film.
John, of course, John Williams.
Come on, it's John Williams.
He has the score.
Janus Kaminsky, I thought, shot this really, really well.
He shoots in a lot of very confined spaces
to kind of keep things close together.
I just, I really, really like this film.
It's historically correct when it comes to the sets.
I really like that.
And don't go around.
The acting was good.
The acting was really good.
But it's just that too much of the,
get going.
It's like mom starts peeing up the car.
You're doing 40, but then after the car gets...
Oh, my God, I get to school.
But then when he gets to 60, halfway filmed,
then the car starts really going.
And that's what I thought with this film.
You know, that would be a big ripe on this.
So, I mean, it's still good.
I'm still going to recommend it.
Could I see it again?
Yeah.
Oh, are we at that point?
I can't.
If we want to get to that point, let's get to that point.
Where we do the final analysis.
The way we do the final analysis on this show,
we're not going to give you thumbs up, thumbs down.
We're not going to give you letter grades, numbers,
teletype, anything like that.
We're going to actually ask two questions.
Question number one is, would we see this film again?
If the answer is no, we'll be done here.
But if the answer is yes, then the question becomes,
how far are we willing to go to see it?
From the best of the best of the worst of the best,
here's how it rolls.
Full price at the theater, twilight show,
matinee show, early morning show,
second run at the dollar theater,
actually leaving your house to get it from red box,
streaming it on Netflix, waiting for it on cable.
Dom, would you see this again?
Yeah, I'd see it again.
How far are you willing to go?
I would do something like...
I'd recommend it as a matinee or sick of run.
Oh, so you're going a little bit further away from the top?
Oh yeah, I can't.
No, because it's just that too much of the slow build
and I think it's given too much credibility just because who's in it?
I'm sitting at a twilight show.
I'm just outside of the...
I didn't hate it.
Still in the middle round.
But just outside of the big one.
I just loved it so much.
It's the kind of film that we don't see enough of anymore
and I really hope people go see this film.
I mean a lot of people are going to go just because of the names involved.
But go because it's a fascinating story
that the reverberations from this story still echo today.
You're going to see things in this story that you're going to know
you know what this company...
this country is still going through these things.
And I think it's very relatable on that level too.
Steven Spielberg, directing the post.
For me, this whole thing?
Yes, sir.
We got to think...
Allied integrated marketing.
Josh and Hulk crew.
Such a fan of those guys.
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