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iTunes Exclusive Episode The Boy Next Door

October 16, 2016 Season 5, Episode 113
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episode.
Joining me across the desk is a man who is the sergeant at arms of the Jennifer Lopez International
fan club.
You may know him as Don Ford, or you might know him as Fondon Go, but his mom and
him, Don Ford, I'm a column Don Ford.
Welcome sir.
Sergeant at arms for her.
I would be the worst.
I'm not here to judge you outwardly, but are we going to go ahead, I'm almost standing
your way.
Let's figure my mom and just get done talking to my mom.
I really.
Yeah, she's doing good in my day.
Hello, Don's Mom.
Susan Arneson, love your mom.
We are here to review a movie today.
And if you can hear in the background, it is the Jennifer Lopez.
I won't call her JLo, she's Jennifer Lopez.
I call her JLo because I got your friend name JLo and you become JLo, it seems
Jason Lopez, so become JLo, but he was JLo before JLo was JLo.
So he can stay claim on it.
He's not like copyright.
No, no.
He's okay.
Perfect.
She has a new movie in theaters.
It is called the boy next door directed by Rob Cohen.
You would know his work from things like Alex Cross, which wasn't a bad flick.
He's one of great flick.
The Mummy Tomb of the Dragon Emperor Triple X, the movie with Vin Diesel.
He did the first fast and furious movie, Dragon Bruce Lee's story.
The skulls, he did the rat pack TV movie, which I very much enjoyed by the way.
Dragon Heart, which actually I do that did love that movie.
And running man.
Did he do the running man?
Yeah.
Nice.
Which works in Aga.
Get to the game show.
So yeah, he has a low credit.
Yeah.
The boy next door, of course Jennifer Lopez, plays Claire Peterson, a local high school
teacher who teaches classic literature, who is dealing with her estranged husband, played
by the great John Corbyn.
I like him a lot.
I know.
My big back-requoting.
I love to know.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
Doing with him because there have been a estranged, and they have a son, whose name is Kevin,
played by Ian Nelson.
The right around Labor Day weekend, Kevin and his dad go camping, and a new guy moves
in next door to help out his great uncle.
His name is Noah Sandborn, played by Ryan Guzman.
You might know him from the step-up films, which I would not mean either.
And one night mistakes are made, he is a significantly younger man than she.
He's put on the trump to her, it's him like a real charming sweet kid from next door.
She ends up, there's a little bit of an end of going on.
And she realizes the next day that she's made a mistake, but he doesn't.
And what turns into an obsession, and we go from there.
He turns from sweet little kid next door to Mr. Psycho.
And he hasn't really graduated a high school yet, so he winds up in her class, and he's
20 years old.
He's almost 20.
Almost 20.
I'm almost 20.
So, that being said, first of all, first up, we got to think Marianne from Universal
Merock for inviting us to this again.
She's so nice to us.
She's a sweet lady.
She's a lot nicer than she has to be to, but yeah, thanks get a Marianne for inviting us
to this thing.
We really, really appreciate it.
We do appreciate everything that they do for us.
Let's get into the movie.
Okay.
Rob Cohen, guys, got credit.
What do you think about his vision to film?
The look was nothing stand out, first off on the look of the film.
I can see it's just your normal look of the film.
It's in the high school and all that, but we expect something like this kind of thing.
If it the mood, I think for what it was, so nothing real exciting, but I thought was okay.
Direction, the storyline, we'll get more in depth into that.
I wasn't too impressed, I'd say, on that part there.
Visually, the film, though, we didn't stand out for me.
I mean, some of the stuff Rob Cohen's done, it's very understated.
There's not a lot of, you know, flashbang.
There's some pretty intense moments from car chases and things like that, but you really
don't need a lot of big visual, not not for a film like this, you have to rely on the story
to drive the car, not the visuals, which leads us into the story.
For me, I'm an old man, you know, and I'm definitely not the target demo for this
film.
Definitely not the target demographic, but we've seen this type of story before.
There's nothing about the story or the execution of this film that brought anything new
to it for me besides maybe a little bit of technology.
Yeah, we don't want to give out, I mean, it's like fatal traction, right?
When I was in high school, fatal traction came out.
Yeah, we're not giving out names, though, you know.
I mean, I saw it then and it was, and it wasn't, I mean, I guess the idea is, I
think the idea wasn't really fresh then, but they didn't write.
But for me, for my generation, it was.
So this is kind of how the lens, as I saw this film through.
This is that kind of a film for a younger generation.
Now it is rated R, and there is language all over this thing.
So be before warned going into it.
And some violence.
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
Very, very brief, though.
Yeah, but still the heads up.
I just felt that there were some things, and as I was driving home after the screening,
I was kind of digesting this film and kind of maybe dissecting it a little bit.
And there's a moment in the film that takes place after the school dance, because Noah
does be friend Kevin and because Kevin's kind of a shy kid and it's kind of vulnerable
right.
Kevin's kind of takes him under his wing and protects him from, from certain things.
But there's a scene after the dance that I was like, why was this never addressed?
And I can see on a certain level why it wasn't from from Claire's perspective.
But I would have liked to have seen some follow-up on on some kind of a confrontation
because I don't really want to give it away, but I think you know what I'm talking about.
They scrolls, say, one more bedroom?
Yes.
That never really, it just kind of falls by the wayside for me.
And I was like, yeah, I felt the same way on that, too.
Why would I?
I could see Claire's motivation for not addressing it.
But it was just odd for me.
I kind of felt the story kind of me-andered, it went around in a round, a Christian
Chenoweth place or best friend in the Vice Principal of the school.
I felt her character was very unnecessary.
I thought she was kind of funny in some parts.
I did like, like, she seemed like the friend, her girlfriend, her best buddy.
And she had some comedy, like the dinner scene, the blind date scene.
Yeah, but I thought she was kind of funny there, but when the confrontation happened at
the school and where something happens between no one and the other student-
Yeah, but I did still sort of gotten that resolution without it.
I just felt that her character was unnecessary for the film.
I thought she kind of added, because this stuff needed a lot of that.
And just like another one of my favorite actors that's in this film, Hill Harper, who was
on CSI New York for many, many years, and I'm a big fan of him on multiple levels.
I think he's a great actor, and some of the work that he does off camera to be a mentor
to young kids.
I'm hugely on board with, but I felt him as the principal was kind of unnecessary in the
film.
Well, he was very underutilized.
The one scene in a classroom with the pictures, he needed him there.
Yeah.
But again, you could have done that differently.
That could have been Chris and Chenowis character for all we know.
You know, I just, I kind of felt like, hey, we're friends, come be in my movie.
It's the way I felt about this.
It just didn't, it didn't ever take off for me.
You know, we were, we were delighted to find out, because I am D.B.
had it listed 131 minutes, and we were delighted to find out they were wrong.
It was an hour and 31 minutes.
Uh, it could have been even shorter than that.
In my opinion, on the plot, I'm going to dive into this.
The plot had good intentions, I thought, but it fell short.
And there's scenes by the end where they're trying to get you or heart pumping and scare
you and get you on edge, you're seat and it fell flat.
I agree with you, because it's not.
There were no scares that we hadn't seen before.
The barn.
There's always, you know, there's always the fake scare right before the real scare.
We all know how that works, and it was just real predictable, too.
Oh, why?
But it movie like this, well, I don't think we'll pride itself on surprising you.
You know what's going to happen, because it's just the nature of the story.
I kind of felt like you, I didn't even have to say it, like the story moved really fast,
but it dragged for me at the same time.
You know, you asked me at one point, you know, how many times have you looked at your watch?
Because that's a gauge for me.
Exactly.
And I told you three, and we were 30 minutes in.
And I heard you grinding a few times.
So if you're trying this, one of the things that I had a problem with was, when you're
trying to sell a sex scene in a film, and the people around me are laughing, that's a problem.
Yeah.
You know, there were people that bought into the scares and whatnot, and I didn't.
There's a couple good comedy prints, you know, and that's one thing I put in my reviews.
I thought there was a cute view, which is on my written review, which is on the clubestpodcast.com.
That's our website.
Where I thought there was some good comedy parts here or there throughout, which I think
added to, which were good, you know, wasn't too comedic.
But there's a couple times I laughed, which I thought added to the storyline, but the
storyline was really, really lacking.
And then it just ends, like, yeah, it's like, and then there's credits, and it's like,
well, hold on a second.
Yeah, and what happened at the end, there would be a lot more going on than just what I'm
sure if you could have added five minutes to the absolute end of the film, and it would
have made it a little better for me.
Yeah, they didn't tell short.
I thought to me, it was kind of like if you've ever seen Mel Gibson's payback.
Yeah.
When the credits roll, you go, wait a minute.
Did it?
Oh.
Okay.
I guess I'll go now.
It's, I agree with you.
It just kind of felt flat for me.
It's kind of like where you're driving in your car and you're slowing down the
all of a sudden, you hit that bump and you know, when you stop, because you hit something
and you get that jolt, it's like, you didn't fast like that, and kind of uncomfortable.
I think they could, like, use it, give another five minutes on easy, and or maybe take
in five minutes of, of the film that went nowhere and tacked it onto the end, because
there were certain points where you were just like, yeah, we've established this.
Can we move on a little bit?
Like, they didn't have to keep telling me about the family dynamic.
He set it up in the beginning and then you roll with it.
It was, I don't know, it just, and again, I think it's because I'm not the target demographic
for this film.
So it doesn't have to speak to me, but I expected it to speak to me a little bit.
What do you think about the acting?
I thought, no, it did okay as a cycle, boy, I thought.
To me, he wants to be Channing Tatum so bad he can taste it.
You know, and I talked to my normal coach in the show, Chad Womig, I actually talked
him on the phone last night, and he said, from the trailers, he saw, he kind of got a
tailor, a lotner vibe off the kid.
For me, it was more like he wanted to be Channing Tatum.
He wanted to be this smooth, elude, eludes, kind of guy, and it just didn't work for me.
And then, you know, the crazy side of him comes out, and that didn't work for me either.
I just felt that maybe, I don't know if it was the script given to him or the direction
given to him, because I think the kids got chops, I just don't know that this worked for
me.
You know what I mean?
So the big elephant in the room.
What about Jaylo?
Have I said enough?
Okay.
I'm just, I'm not a fan of her because I do like, John Corbin in there.
But John Corbin's always great.
Yeah.
He's always great.
I mean, seeing him, I was like, okay, good.
There's a breath of fresh air.
Much like Sam Rockwell and Ladys, if he was on screen, I was cool.
Yeah.
But Jennifer Lopez, God bless her, she's trying to hold on to that youth with everything.
She's got.
You think that's one of the reasons she did this role?
Oh, absolutely.
I mean, she was a producer on the film for crying out loud.
You know?
She's got money involved.
Of course, she's going to make sure that every shot, you know, she's, she turns 46 this
year.
She's trying to keep that sexy.
Well, she's just trying to still be relevant, you know, and I just, I've never been
a fan of her musically.
I've been marginally a fan of her from an acting standpoint, but she stays relevant.
So yeah.
I mean, who am I?
I'm just a dude on a podcast.
Yeah.
She was musically a fan of her.
You know, well, she still is.
Yeah.
But I, I've just never been a huge fan of Jennifer Lopez.
You know, if, don't do a song called Jenny from the block, if, you know, you haven't seen that
block.
A couple of decades.
You don't have to tell people.
I've always said, the more you have to tell people, you're something, the less of
that something you are.
And I really had to take my anti Jennifer Lopez glasses off when I saw this film, but
I still, I couldn't buy, she's, she couldn't decide if she wanted to be the help
of a victim or the strong woman.
Yeah.
I mean, she wants to be her character from enough.
Yeah.
That's what's going to say.
Or what did she want to be just this woman struggling, and I don't think she ever
found it.
If you try to play this sweet heart role too well, yeah, and I thought a little bit
little bit.
And it seems like she's the whole victim the whole time.
Well, it takes two to tangle.
Yeah.
You know.
So I mean, well, the acting, we'll leave it at that.
Hey, just, I don't know.
I mean, the only, the only, again, the only performance I really enjoyed was corporate
because I like him.
And I like Hill Harper.
But I felt he was underutilized.
Yeah.
Like total Hill Harper time.
It took me longer to say this sentence than he's on screen.
And this is a guy that I honestly believe should be a leading man in films.
And I think of the right director gave him the chance to really carry a film.
I think he could.
He was the, uh, got the pathologist on the CSI New York course.
Yes, he was one of them.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And he was fan of him.
Oh, yeah.
Huge fan of him.
And I just, I kind of felt like that he was underutilized.
But maybe that's me.
Yeah.
That's how I kind of feel.
So anything else shall we get to the final analysis?
What we do again, thank you Mary Ann at Merock and Universal and everybody for
a run by us to this thing.
We really do appreciate it though.
Absolutely.
Thank you so much.
Appreciate it more than they do more for us than they ever have to.
Exactly.
We totally appreciate you so much with the final analysis on this show.
We don't give you a letter grade or thumbs up thumbs down.
We don't give you, you know, one to ten stars, whatever our audience whom we prefer
to as the empire is worth more than that.
So the way we do a final analysis on our show is it's a two-prong question.
Question number one, is would you see this film again?
If the answer is no, then we're done here.
If the answer is yes, it becomes how would you see it again?
Would you see it in first run?
Would you see it in twilight during the day, early morning?
Would you wait for a second run?
Red box, Netflix, cable.
Done.
Would you see this film again?
Tough one.
But you're honest, you're honest opinions all we've ever asked.
Yeah.
Maybe this may be the first, maybe in the history of this show.
This is our 77.
Yeah.
I choose exclusive.
Put this way.
I would not be like leaving or in the two weeks' price and oh my God, it's going
to be on the HBO.
I got a DVR to go watch it again.
If it was on, nothing else was on possibly.
This is one of those films that I would only see again, like you said, if it was
on my TV and I was too lazy to grab the remote, and even then I might face book a
read a book.
It just replician me crush.
Yeah.
I mean, I can understand for a younger audience, that's really going to enjoy this or your
J-Lo fan club.
Oh yeah.
They're going to love it.
They're going to love it.
Yeah, like the 20 to 25 year olds, you know, I'd say under 30, it's more for them.
We're just not going to look back on this in 10 years and go, you know, it was a really
great movie.
Exactly.
We're not going to do that.
Um, but I mean, it'll make its money.
Yeah, because of the of that younger crowd that's going to go.
I mean, for J-Lo, it's not J-Lo, you're wherever, wherever, but J-Lo, but I mean,
make it a movie, say correct.
But, you know, it's not going to be like enough either, though.
It's just going to be another one in our list.
I think, you know, fair enough, leave it at that.
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