iTunes Exclusive Episode Superfly

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But I'm not alone, sitting in a class for me is the co-host of this show.
And a man that can actually hear the title of this film and not think about a Missy Elliott
song.
He is Chad.
Welcome sir.
You are correct sir.
Right and he got the dance is the official fact checker of this show.
And a man, well, he's just super fly.
You may know him as Von Don Gogh, but his mama name I'm Don Ford, I'm gonna call him Don
Ford, welcome.
I saw Jimmy Super fly snook a take on Ridey Piper after the cooking thing in the Eekloo and
asked my first live wrestling event ever went to.
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Whatever we do one of these, we do it to review something and this is no exception.
A director by the name and this is literally really his name, director X, formerly the
little X, directs the reap of Super fly.
But we're starting this whole thing.
Yes sir.
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So we got to talk to you guys about them and you can make the best possible decisions for
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This is the first time with Mike.
We've got a minute.
Yes, we met him the other night.
Very nice gentlemen.
Enjoy talking to him for the brief moments that we had.
So let me start this by saying, I am a huge fan of black exploitation genre.
Love these films as a kid, whether it was Shaft, Shaft's Big Score, Shaft in Africa, Cleopatra
Jones, Foxy Brown, of course Super fly, Black Yilla, all these kinds of films.
This was a genre in the 70s.
What about the Wiz, honestly?
I don't know that I would consider it a black exploitation film because there are certain
things that have to exist.
But that's an excellent question, but I wouldn't put that in this category.
Let's just put it out there.
You are not remaking that film in this modern era.
No, you're not.
Unless you're doing it ironically.
A la, I'm going to get you Sucka or Black Dynamite.
Yes, exactly.
Although I love Black Dynamite.
I would have been, I would have actually been okay with that if they had done it that
way.
I'm the leader, sarcastically.
It's still one of the greatest lines of hard time.
But in this case, the names are the same for the most part because I didn't go back
and watch Super fly before I wouldn't saw this.
But my plan it was and executed is I went to the Wikipedia page after we saw it because
I didn't want my memories of the original to cloud what I was seeing in the theater.
Because I knew you're not going to do it shot for shot.
I'm sorry.
It's not going to happen.
You can do that with.
Not this.
Well, they did remember they did that in 2000 with Samuel Jackson, which I thought was
well done.
There's other things I wish they would have done with it because I'm a huge, I say it
might written review at www.theclubhousepodcast.com.
That's our website.
That's I liked that film, but there's certain things that they didn't capture for me.
True.
But you could you could set shaft in any decade and it would pretty much work, especially
if you got that guy playing shaft.
Samuel Jackson.
Samuel Jackson.
And this case Trevor Jackson currently being featured on grown-up-ish, the blackest
film off.
Okay.
Young blood priest is Superfly's name in both films again.
It's kind of the character most of the characters are the same, but there's a lot of plot points
that have been shuffled around.
Their mannerisms I imagine are just a little bit different.
Yeah, because it doesn't work, but I'm just talking about serious plot points from the
original film.
Uh-huh.
Because there was a return of Superfly as well.
I forgot about that.
They had to shuffle certain things around because again, the original takes place in
Harlem.
This takes place in Atlanta.
Okay.
Just because I think that Atlanta, for the way this is written, Atlanta fits better in this
era than Harlem would.
Kind of like this car face from the 80s fit works better.
Which apparently they're doing again with the Mexican drug cartels, that is a thing.
But not a lot of huge names in this.
I didn't recognize anybody.
Michael Kenneth Williams you should.
It's Omar, sir, from the wire, but he's been in a ton of stuff.
Yeah.
Kill the messenger.
Esai Morales.
Oh, really?
I didn't realize.
He is in this as well.
Uh, big boy from Outcast, because it's in Atlanta, so you've got certain Atlanta artists.
Jason Mitchell.
Uh, Jason Mitchell.
Which is an easy and straight-up compton.
Mm-hmm.
Oh, really?
Yes.
Okay.
Yes, yes, yes.
And then you've also got some newcomers as well, but a couple of hip-hop artists like
Kalen, K.R. Walker.
He's a hip-hop artist who's now done three pretty serious projects.
He is in the recent, let me pull this up so I can say it correctly, that the movie just
came out a few months ago with, uh, Halle Berry and Daniel Craig Kings.
Okay.
He was in that.
He's, he's really good in this.
He's, he's basically here's what you need to know.
Young blood priest is still super fly.
He's a low to mid-level drug dealer in Atlanta, but he's smart.
And what I mean by that is he's never been arrested, cops never sniff around to where
he is, because he has people everywhere.
Okay.
So he always knows what's going on in his city.
He decides he's been in this game most of his life.
Now, now Michael Kenneth Williams plays Scatter, who is his supplier.
And in the, in the original film, he owned a restaurant here, he owns a dojo.
Okay.
Well, there's, but there's a, there's a, there's a tie in there.
He wants to do one big score and get out of the game.
Super fly does.
Right.
Okay.
But his dealer's like, not so much, I'm not, I'm not going to give you that much product.
But super flies one of these guys, I mean, priest is one of these guys where he literally
thinks 12 moves ahead as a dealer.
He will, really, and you see some of the scenes where he's that smart, he's not too, I mean,
he's the smart man.
Okay.
So he decides he's going to go around his, his connection and go to his connection.
And cut Super fly out of the, no, he's going to cut Scatter out.
Oh, Scatter out.
He's going to cut Scatter out.
Okay.
Now, in the meantime, there's this other crew called Snow Patrol.
They're led by Q, who is also another Atlanta-based hip-hop artist named Big Bank Black.
And they're cool.
You know, every, there's enough money to be made for everybody.
So no one's beefing.
Right.
We're good there.
They're the big dogs.
So they're very good.
But, tail and care walker who plays juju, he just wants it all.
Oh, of course.
Yeah.
So he's, he's, he's Q's right hand and some things happen while Super flies, you know,
how priest is out of pocket and all hell breaks loose.
Now this runs almost two full hours, but the original was an hour and a half.
You know me.
You know how much I, I said it before, I'm a huge fan of the black exploitation genre.
I really enjoyed this film on multiple fronts.
That's surprising.
I really thought it was going to be a waste.
Now director X, formerly little Lex, he's known for music videos mostly.
I kind of figured it was for everybody and their brother.
You can tell just by that, by the trailers that this guy has a, has a music video background.
So and that works with this story for me because everything that goes on, you liked having,
I liked having that music video feel to it because it fits the story, right?
It does run a little long.
There's a lot of setup, but the third act of this thing is a, so there is a great payoff
to it.
For me, there was.
Okay, good.
Because again, knowing the source material and very, being very critical of it.
I think Trevor Jackson does a great job as a young blood priest, he, it's the way I put
it in my, my written review currently located at www.theclubhousepodcast.com.
That's our website.
This is a, if you could do a modern black exploitation film, this is how it would go.
Okay.
A serious.
Yeah.
That, that, that knows what it is and stays in that pocket.
Did it ever come off as a new Jack City knockoff or I never at any point was like, because
when you were describing this.
Right.
God, this sounds a lot like new Jack City.
He sounds like he's trying to be Nino Brown.
But there's, I mean, there's, there's something for everybody if you're a fan of the vagina.
Okay.
There is.
There's crooked cops.
There's, you know, there are certain plot elements.
That stay the same, but with the same character and a different capacity.
Mm-hmm.
Because there's a certain popular song from the soundtrack and if you don't know, I'm
not going to tell you that when it was a single in the 70s, sold over a million copies,
that plot point is still there.
Okay.
And there's even a nice nod in a couple of places to the original because you get to hear
Curtis Mayfield's push or man, it's a great song.
And you get to hear just a little bit of the original theme, which I wanted more, you
know, but they use it very well.
And the soundtrack here, done by Future, Future does a great job with the soundtrack.
That's the one thing I've heard consistently across the board from.
And you know me, I'm not much onto the movie with the kids at the clothes in the hair, but
I know who Future is.
And he did a great job with this, a great job.
And we were talking about this last night at a different event that we were at.
And Don said something that I thought he hit it right on the head personally.
Don, you want to repeat what you said about the opening of this film?
Yeah, there's a nice little soundtrack you don't play at church.
Brother, ain't lying.
I mean, it's right, because this, the very first thing is their drive, pre-strize up to
a club, and he had the music blaring towards Lil John, because you're in Atlanta.
Oh boy.
Now, the score was done by Josh Atchley, and then Future did the soundtrack, because there's
a score, there's a soundtrack.
Yeah, it's a song.
You'd be more comfortable letting one rip in church than being it to your priest.
And let's just say it's real easy to learn.
Okay.
But I just realized what I did there that was not a pun, not intended, sorry.
But I think I really enjoyed this film.
I really did, because I tell you, I was apprehensive going in.
Yeah, I had no desire at all.
Because when you look at the IMDb description, and it just says, oh, they've changed it.
They changed it until, yeah, until today, the description on IMDb was literally a loose
remake of the 1970s film Super Flies.
Now it says, with a sight set on retiring, a successful young jungler sets up one big
last deal.
And there's, there's a lot more to it than that.
Yeah, you've been kind of quiet over there, but this is a discussion.
I know, but you're more talking, now, now let me say my piece.
No, please do.
Because you're with me.
Yeah.
I wanted you to get your points across first.
Okay.
So now, my turn on this, please, first off, this film, and I'm not saying anything, it's
not the genre for everybody.
Correct.
You're great uncle who watches Fox News three hours a day who is 85 years old is not going
to enjoy this film.
Or it's not going to be his genre.
Unless he's cool like that.
Yeah, but you know the point I'm trying to make, okay, now if you like a lot of this, you're
going to be good.
As I say, go ahead, please, okay.
This film visually was beautiful, very well shot, the night shots at Atlanta were wonderful.
And I read an interview where the director said he wanted to make sure it was Atlanta,
because this is more the modern day of today, the big drug, one of the big drug cities.
Absolutely.
Okay.
But it got to a point when I watched this thing about Atlanta, it was, did the Chamber
of Commerce for the City of Atlanta be one of the sponsors for this?
Like you said about another film you saw recently.
Yeah.
It's kind of like, hey, Atlanta, Atlanta, Atlanta, night shot of Atlanta, sand down Atlanta,
Atlanta, Atlanta, Atlanta, and it made the point or Atlanta, okay, Mr. Director X, we get
the point.
It's Atlanta.
It got too much in that thing where it was kind of Chamber of Commerce, see?
I see how you could say that.
No, no, no.
We're having a discussion.
No, we're having a discussion.
Yeah.
Some people, I see how you saw that way.
I didn't see it down.
Yes, but there's some films where they show New York, but it doesn't point, we say this
is New York, this is saying this is Atlanta.
I think I did too much.
The ATL, baby.
Okay.
It's on, ATONDA.
Acting was good.
I thought Jackson did great.
Mitchell, I loved him from Strata Compton, loved him and this.
He was my favorite, believe it or not, and this, because of his attitude, just kind of joking
ness to the side.
And Jason Mitchell plays Eddie, whose priest's brother.
Yeah.
Basically, his right hand, his, you know, his, his, the trusted man in the business.
And of course, he got some heavy hitters.
You do have, like, you know, Williams, he delivers.
Michael Kenneth Williams is Omar, Omar Tom.
Yeah.
I mean, he delivers.
Yeah, some of the best lines in the film, too.
Okay.
Now, like you said, a little bit, and I agree with this too much.
The plot, it was way too long.
It was an hour 50.
There was some stuff that easily could have been cut out to make the point.
I wouldn't say way too long, but it was definitely longer than it should have been.
Okay.
That was one of my points.
And still the plot was good.
It kept me interested in all, but it was too long to get to the point in the end.
My other thing, my other gripe is they, and I know it's the genre and stuff like that
who do this is geared towards, but there were about two or three scenes where they took
jabs politically.
Okay.
Okay.
One I'm going to say is in the park with the cars in the statue.
And then that would, but you use the word subtle in your review.
Yes.
That's exactly what that was.
That was subtle.
And another one was at the very end with the main cartel person's mom talking about.
Okay.
You know what I'm saying?
That was cool.
That was cool.
But her saying that, I go, there's another jab, you know, and I'm kind of like, I
don't know.
But the line between entertainment and politics is so blurred now, I think the thing with
the statue is not needed to get the point there, the subtle point.
So still overall, I thought it was good, but too long, acting good, the look was beautiful,
but this is still, Atlanta, come to Atlanta without giving away any points.
There's another shot I want to give to Brian Durkin who plays Turk Franklin.
Keep your eye on him in this film.
He's very, very good.
Chat any other questions that you might have about this?
Well, like I said, I was, I had no interest in it at all, but just based on, on the view
points you guys have thrown out there, I'm intrigued now.
I'd go see this now.
No.
Before I wouldn't.
Sort of interrupt.
Franklin, I agree.
He was good.
He was really good.
He didn't have a minor party.
I mean, he had a supporting role because he was in a lot of scenes.
I would be interested for you to know, because you can go to the Wikipedia page and it'll
give you everything about the original.
Okay.
I would like you to go and read that.
And so you could see some of the differences that are in there.
It does make me want to go back and watch the original again now that I've seen this
version.
It won't change my opinion of this version, but it does make me want to go back and watch
it because I watched it years and years and years and years ago.
I didn't hate it, but I had some critiques, but still overall enjoyable, I'll still recommend
it.
All right.
Shall we get to the final analysis now?
The way we do the final analysis on this show, we're not going to give you thumbs up, thumbs
down, letter grades, numbers, you know, amount that we're going to make it rain, nothing
like that.
There's just a lot of that in this film.
There's a lot of making it rain in this movie, you know what I mean?
It's a lot of that going on for other.
Up to two questions.
Question number one.
Would we see this film again?
If the answer is no, then we're done here.
But if the answer is yes, then the question becomes how far are we willing to go to do so?
From the best of the best of the worst of the best, here's the spectrum.
People price it a theater, down to a twilight show, down to a matinee show, down to early
morning on a weekend, down to second run at the dollar theater, down to actually leaving
your house to get it from red box, down to streaming on Netflix, down to watching it
on cable.
Don, would you see this again?
Yeah.
All right.
How far are you willing to go to do it?
Ah, second run theater.
Okay.
So right there in the middle.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
I mean, there's some things I didn't think what's needed, but still I did why get the
look was beautiful.
I would see this again as well.
I'm going to put it out of matinee.
Okay.
I think it's a good Saturday afternoon, go have some fun, because this is a fun film.
If you can get past, there's going to be some people that are going to be like, oh,
it glorifies drugs.
Blib, blib, blib, blib, blib, blib, blib, blib, blib, blib, blib, blib.
Just go have fun in the movie.
But we got a warning out there.
Yeah.
This is right in our for a reason.
We're talking new to the sexual situations, adult situations, a lot of that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So do your homework before you see it and don't take the kids unless you want to do
it.
Especially in the first 30 seconds of the film.
Yeah.
There's also there was also another pretty graphic scene that I want to talk to you about
off air, because it's I don't know if you noticed it, but it was something that I was
like, okay, it is director X and the new version of super flat for was in this whole thing.
Yes, I think Mike and everybody at 11 said for the invite.
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