iTunes Exclusive Episode Stonewall

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He is chat, welcome sir.
Indeed, I will.
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He is the official fact checker of this show.
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You may know him is fond Don Go, but it's a mom and even Don Ford.
I'm going to call him Don Ford.
Welcome sir.
This is not our first solo though.
We haven't done one of these in a while.
We've done one one one times.
Yeah, we've done the Bible one and I did the unknown about non-run sales.
So that's it.
But we're here from the Empire, regardless.
Whenever we do one of these, it is to review something in this particular edition is no different.
Today, we are here to review the latest film directed by Roland Emerick.
Yes, that Roland Emerick.
Didn't he bring us the the previous version of Godzilla too?
The previous.
Yes, he did a Godzilla.
If I remember.
No, no, he did the one from 98.
That's what I'm saying.
The previous.
Not this one.
Okay, okay, okay.
I thought you're talking about the most recent one.
2012 the day after tomorrow independence day.
But this is a little Patriot to the Patriot.
But this is a little different for him.
This film is called Stonewall.
And it is a fictionalized version of things that happened during real events.
Which I'm always intrigued by films like this when people can take actual historical events
and kind of make them look at it for fictionalize it.
So that's you see how certain people could have lived during that time.
Oh, like they said.
No, not stupid.
That movie.
That's completely different.
No, it's not.
That movie just plain sucked.
Yeah, that was different.
Okay.
I can't say anything about this film because I haven't seen it.
I have seen stupid boat movie.
So I can.
I am qualified to have an opinion.
I don't have an opinion about this particular film because I did not see it.
It stars Jeremy Irvine who you might know from warhorse.
He was also in the railway man as well.
And he stars as Danny Winters.
He is a small town kid that moved.
Small town Kansas.
Okay.
Small town Kansas moves to Stonewall.
Yeah, to New York.
A New York and a village center officer.
And in the village.
Yeah.
Right outside New York City proper.
I guess the kids call it.
Subber.
And this is really a film.
As I've seen it in the trailer.
A lot about gay rights where he meets up with a group of people and it kind of his journey through that whole deal.
But don't.
I'm going to kind of let you drive this thing because I don't know enough about it to have an opinion.
So let's start.
But we get, I got, we got to think.
Okay.
Carol from Gailor Smith from Binance to this thing.
Love her.
Yeah, she's so wonderful to us.
Yeah.
She's a great lady.
And whenever we get chance.
Well, we'll check out her films any time we can.
But I get, thank you.
Thanks again.
Carol.
Okay.
So let's start by talking about the script itself.
How did you feel about the way the story was told?
We're not even very in the lead because I know what you think because I've read your review.
Yeah.
I'm a written review that's at www.theclubhousepodcast.com.
Which is our website.
There we go.
I want to say that for last.
Oh, you do?
Yeah.
Let's do the look.
All right.
The look of the film.
I mean, I've seen the trailer.
Yeah.
It looks very 1960's.
Like it's got that greedy look to it.
It doesn't look like they tried to like pretty it up or anything.
No.
It looks like it's, it's very.
On this to the timeframe itself.
Yeah.
The look, the film, the lighting, everything.
Your mindy of watching some of those shows from the late 60's.
Okay.
So in it showed New York in that proper time in just the late 1960's.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So on that look, it was good.
You know, and there was no problems with it.
And I really enjoyed the look of the film.
It was perfect for what they're trying to do.
And they didn't over glorify New York.
Yeah.
It's New York.
It's in the village.
Yes.
And all that.
But it didn't like where New York, New York.
It was more of the characters driving the scenery than the other way around.
Yeah.
The scenery, it's, it's own little park.
It was done perfectly not to, it was subtle but good.
Okay.
Fair enough.
Fair enough.
Fair enough.
Yes.
Now.
Now since you've talked about the characters, let's talk about the acting.
A couple of big names that are in this.
Ron Pearlman is in this.
Yes.
Jonathan Reese Myers is in this as well.
But really, those are as I'm scrolling through the credits here.
There are two biggest names that I'm seeing in this thing.
Yeah.
I'd say that there's three league characters in this.
You got Irvine, who plays the main character Danny.
Johnny, that's Beck Shump.
Ocean.
Ocean.
Ocean.
He plays like the guy he meets in New York who kind of becomes one of his little interest
he could say.
And then Jonathan Myers.
Jonathan Reese Myers.
He, those were the big three.
Because he's kind of in that love triangle between those two.
Okay.
All right.
So he started off kind of with Ray, then he went with Trevor, and then, you know,
it's kind of that, you know, 40 non, you know, one on one time where it's kind of, people
got a round at the time.
It's a big station.
That's just history.
The era of love.
The era of love.
You know, family friendly.
Okay.
Right.
So between those three, they were very good.
Okay.
I admit.
I thought.
We camp was.
Oh, champ.
But champ was the shining star in this thing.
Really.
Okay.
Yeah.
He, if I'd give a, this guy had the role perfect, the best actor in this thing was good.
He's been in petty dreadful.
Yeah.
The HBO series plays Angelique on that show.
Yeah.
He was also in the HBO series How to Make it in America.
Yeah.
So he, he, he really stood out as a in his acting ability was good.
They had good chemistry between the three.
Now, permanent was probably in there about 10, 15 minutes total.
Okay.
No.
And a lot of the people where they talk about this historically at the end of the film
when they're starting to credits.
Some of the people in the film that you show the real pictures of the people and said,
here's what happened with this person that person.
Oh, so it is a true story.
It's not a fictional characters.
Danny's fictional.
Okay.
So everybody.
There are certain people that were instrumental in the riots.
Yeah.
Okay.
And they had those.
They were minor roles.
Okay.
Okay.
And also the character by Jonathan Rice and Myers.
Re-smeyer.
Re-smeyer's Trevor.
That was a real person also.
But most of the people that they did the credits on were minor roles.
Like 10 minutes.
Like Pearlman.
You know what I'm saying?
They weren't in there much to the whole film.
Little sports here or there.
There was one person they gave the, you know, the update on.
Who was in a scene for about two minutes.
And that was it.
You know, so.
But what did that take away from it from you or when you found out that how privilety they were to that change your view at all?
Totally.
Okay.
If you go to my review at the call busbacast.com.
That is our website.
I put on here.
I saw the trailer before I went in.
Okay.
That's all I knew.
Nothing else.
That's there.
You know, to get a general idea.
It looked interesting.
And it looked like this films about the riots.
This film is about standing up for rights and how they're doing all that stuff.
You know, you see a lot of action.
And most of the stuff's about the.
Them being beat up discriminated against the riots.
Them trying to get.
Do all the marching.
Everything.
Right.
If you take that trailer.
Mm-hmm.
And add about five more minutes into that film.
That's all you get when it comes to that point.
Oh, so the the namesake of the film as you think is about the riots.
And the trailer is as hordly misleading.
It is a bait and switch.
Beomboly as as Chad and I have referred to it as the Pearl Harbor effect.
Exactly.
100% unfair enough.
They're referred to the movie.
Not the event.
This is about.
Two hours long.
About only ten minutes of it.
Two hours and nine minutes.
Yeah.
About.
So only about ten minutes.
Fifteen minutes.
Was it really about the riots?
The riots in itself of Stonewall.
Mm-hmm.
Was only about six minutes.
Did it.
And then so you're saying that.
Yes.
What you think was in the trailer is only a small part of the film.
But the rest of the film didn't kind of make up for that film.
No, it did not.
Fair enough.
And in fact, I watched the trailer twice.
I've did the screening.
And going this is not what this movie was.
Okay.
You did your due diligence.
Yeah.
And I watched twice.
Fair enough.
Fair enough.
Okay.
Now the rest of the film.
It's just a love story.
Nothing else.
It's a romance film.
It's nothing to do about Stonewall.
Ninety-some percent of that film is just a love story.
Nothing more.
Okay.
So it's more about Danny and his journey than it's about the riot.
Yeah.
It starts off at him.
Good arriving to me.
York in the back flashes to Kansas for about the first half hour of the film.
Where you'll see ten minutes of him.
What kind of kind of setting up who he is.
So you understand.
So he's okay.
Yeah.
There.
There.
And small town Kansas.
Think of this exact town.
But how it's in the 60s.
You know, this is Bible Bill.
You know, family values all that.
And how he got caught by his friends.
Being doing a homosexual act.
Okay.
And how he got shunned in his dad basically packed his luggage.
Which is why he went to New York.
Yeah.
So it's fair enough.
First half hours going back and forth.
So you think that that was enough time for you to understand the character.
Two long to short.
That first half hour was perfect.
Okay.
Good.
Then it's just another hour of a love story.
Okay.
Nothing.
And again, almost paralleling.
What we call the Pearl Harbor effect, Chad, where you thought it was about Pearl Harbor,
but it was more about this love triangle that happened.
So they're almost keeping on pace with with the literal definition that we've
given to the Pearl Harbor.
And you get a little one minute here, one minute there of the rights issues and stuff like that.
Okay.
But the thing was the rights start probably in the last 80% of the film.
Which is about six and seven minutes.
Then after that, it's the finale of the love story and then it's the march and that's it.
Okay.
So most of this film is the life and the love story of Danny.
Totally opposite of what the trailer was.
Okay.
Fair enough.
You're you're definitely.
I mean, I think we established you feel that this film was horribly mis marketed.
Totally.
Are you ready to get into the final analysis of it?
Maybe think of cover of the bases?
Yeah.
But before we get in, not to be, we, we pride ourselves and not be in political.
Correct.
Okay.
If you are a.
Oh, yeah.
You said this in your review as well.
Which is where?
Uh, the WWW dot the clubhouse podcast.com.
Which is our website.
I put on there.
If you are a Christian conservative.
Any, I put good beliefs on that.
And we have no poem with that.
Right.
Do not see this.
Don't see this.
This is pure gay rights, gay love.
And there's a lot of adult situations on this.
So this, if you're a fair assessment sir.
Yeah.
If you're not in favor of the homosexuality, you will.
You will regret going into this thing.
Okay.
Well, the way we do the final analysis on this show is we don't give you letter grades.
We don't give you thumbs up thumbs down.
We don't give you one to 10 scale or stars or anything like that.
Our audience whom we were affectionately referred to as the empire is better than that.
We asked two questions.
Question number one, is would you see this film again?
If the answer is no, then we're done here.
If the answer is yes, that it's going to be how far are you going to go to see again?
Will you see it in first run?
Will you see that it's quite light showing?
Would you see it's early morning or day time early morning on a Saturday?
Would you wait for it in second run at the dollar theater?
Would you venture out of your house to go to red box to rent it?
Would you stream it on Netflix or would you watch it on table?
Now, chat before we ask down the important questions.
Is there anything you want to ask?
Because you've been kind of quiet in this one.
I've just been kind of sitting back taking it all in.
Okay.
Fair enough.
So let's do this thing.
Done.
Would you see this film again?
Due to the fact that this drag and drag and drag.
It kind of reminded me of when we the left behind film, I saw last year.
Almost a year ago to the day.
If I remember correctly.
It just brought back that left behind memories after seeing this thing.
I definitely will not see this thing.
I will not recommend it and it may make it certainly.
It probably will make a certain list of mine at the end of the year.
All right.
So there's no need to go any deeper into it.
The film is called Stonewall directed by Roland Emmerick,
starring Jeremy Irvine, Johnny Bochamp,
Ron Pearlman, Jonathan Reese Myers, and more.
Shall we do the flux?
Gladly.
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