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This particular edition we will be introducing you to the latest film directed and starring
and producing.
And I think you like catered it, too.
The great Don Sheetle brings us miles ahead.
This is, I'm not going to say a biopic because it's not a biopic.
I'm going to explain it here in just a little bit.
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This is to me, this is not a biopic.
This is a Miles Davis story, a slice of life of miles.
Kind of like if you picked up a book that was full of short stories about famous people,
yeah.
This is what this more is.
Because you really can't call it a day in the life because it's been quite a few years.
But this mostly centers around Miles Davis circa 1978 as he's been, he hasn't produced
an album in the better part of five years.
And a reporter shows up at his house named Dave Brill, played by you and McGregor, says
he's with Rolling Stone magazine wants to write the story of his comeback.
You know what I think about Miles Davis?
He's a little sirloin.
And it deals with a lot of the stories told in flashback of his rise to fame and meeting
his wife and things of that nature as he tries to protect his recordings from RCA, I'm sorry
from Columbia.
They're about the same company back then.
This film, it's such a strange thing because you can't really categorize it.
You can't put it in any kind of a mold.
It gets a little artsy in a few places, but not so deep, but you go, come on man, yeah.
But first of all, let's just put it out there on the front street.
Cheeto rushes.
Oh, absolutely.
Oh, yeah.
I thought it out.
Cheeto is easily one of my favorite actors of this generation.
He's a guy that is not afraid to put it out there.
He's not afraid to challenge himself.
He's not afraid to take roles that aren't going to pay him a bazillion dollars.
I'm just, but I'm just saying, but he's not afraid to take the smaller indie type
films.
And it's hard for me to say this is an indie film because it's Don Cheeto who's directing
as well, but it was, it's an, he made some interesting choices here, both as an actor
and as a director.
So it's one of the very few instances where an actor can disappear into a role, but you
still see the actor, if that makes any sense, especially the younger Miles, if it's like,
yeah, you see that's Don Cheeto, but at the same time you go, no, that's, it's not
the same as some good.
Don.
I was blown away by his performance.
Totally blown away.
I can think of anything wrong.
And if, also, if you go my written view at the clubhouse.com, that is our website.
Upon and there, one thing I liked about this film, it had that gritty feel of the time.
It really, it really was, she's some of these films that come from 75 to 80 and how
that they have the gritty kind of, and a little bit of a grainy look.
Yeah, this had that perfect feel.
Now one thing I didn't like was it goes back and forth between time, but it did a way too
fast, way too often.
It does, it does too often.
Quite a bit.
I understand once in a while, but it was going back for me, get on up was worse at this than,
then Miles ahead is.
That was my big issue with get on up.
Is it jumped around so much?
So did this.
Almost as bad as Ray.
Yeah.
But this for me, I was able to keep track of the world.
I was too, but it was too much, I thought, too often.
I mean, I respect you.
If they was better, but more time thing, I will respectfully disagree with you on that.
Yeah, absolutely.
Well, I just, they could put more time in one era than without going back for, back for,
back for, they could have done twice at the time in one era, twice at the time in
another, or something like that.
They are not going back and forth, way too much.
The only reason that I guess get on up didn't bother me as much is because I was more
familiar with James Brown's backstory, and that's the only reason.
Because I knew where we were going next, and where we were going, as soon as I saw what
was being set up, I'm like, okay, I know where I know we're going here.
I know next to nothing about Miles as a person outside of his art.
And I wanted to know Miles more, but how much, how much is realistic do you think of
this movie?
How much is correct, or how much is, you know, dramatic license.
But that's, that's, that's what throws me that to me that wasn't, it was neither
here nor there, because I went into this only knowing, only being familiar with some
of Miles' work, but not knowing that much about Miles' the man.
And I really wanted to get to know Miles the man a little bit.
And he got to know him during one of the times where people were, he was such a recluse,
but my big worry is, how much is it?
How much is it?
How much is it?
Yeah, I know, but that's what I like about this film, I showed just one era that people
didn't really know about him at the time.
But my question is, I'm just curious myself, how much of this was historically correct.
But you also have to understand that, opening credits sequence.
Yeah, Miles Davis Enterprise.
Yeah, his state is fully behind this film.
Yeah, I mean, they hand-picked Cheatle from the word go, that they had already had it made
up in their minds that if a biopic or a biographical film, however you want to word it, gets
made about Miles Davis, there's only one man for this job, and it's not Cheatle.
They said that from the onset and for good reason.
I mean, for very good reason, he, it was kind of frightening.
It was bone-chilling, whenever he was just sitting there in full Miles Davis, Sunglass, wearing
you know, $500 silk robe, you know, adorned with a candy apple red trumpet in his hand,
you know.
The trumpet is, he was Miles, he was Michael, such as there's no denying it.
He was Miles.
But let's also not forget, there's other people in this film.
Indeed.
Of course.
Keith Stanfield, playing junior, an up and coming trumpet player that the recordable really
wants to, wants Miles to work with, who you remember as the, one of the friends from
dope, and he played Snoop Dogg and straight out of college.
Also in short term 12, this kid, very subtle, very underplayed, but he's toe to toe
with Cheatle.
He really is and plays it very well, not up to the screen time, but enough to make
an impact.
Right.
And you can tell that in the film, Miles has impressed with him, and I think you can kind
of tell that Cheatle was impressed with, yeah.
And then you look at some, I think, again, boy, we've, I want to apologize if I screw
this up.
Give that up front.
Emma, Emma, a Tacy, Coral, and Coran, Eliyad, that's a Coranelty, Emma, I'm going to go on
it, let me say, Emma, Yatsie, Coranelty, okay, let's go with that.
Playing his wife as she was absolutely amazing.
Learn the name, because you're going to hear the name a lot more.
This girl's, this girl's a revelation.
You look at her hair, too.
She is part Panamanian, part Italian, and all amazing, and all amazing, I mean, you want
to talk about a girl who brought it.
But can I tell you the weird thing for me?
It was you and I wouldn't be the one to say it, but friend of the show Kevin Daniels
from the movie brothers, and I were talking earlier today about this.
He's the every man.
He's the Jesse Eisenberg from the end of the tour, but he's the guy that's taking
us on the journey, but it's still from almost famous guy, but it's still felt weird
to me.
Like their chemistry was weird to me, and maybe that was intentional.
Are you seeing my Gregor?
Yeah, I'm a Gregor in Cheeto, it was just a weird dynamic for me.
There are odds, but they actually started to build some kind of friendship.
Well, but I'm just saying that you're talking about just the chemistry between the actors
themselves, right?
Not on screen.
It was just odd for me.
He kind of felt maybe slightly had a place, a great, you know, outgunned a little bit,
and even by the kid playing junior, he seemed to kind of, kind of, X circles around you,
and I'm not saying that you was a bad actor because he's not, but I love you, but he
kind of seemed like he was out of his element in this thing.
But maybe he did that on purpose.
Well, and he was like, really, you know, he's like a, you know, he's like a, he's like an
apple and the whole bag of oranges.
When you think about it, I mean, it's a fair point.
Yeah, it just, the characters and now he was a child side of weird for me.
And I can't put my finger on it, and I can't tell you, let me say, if he did that on
purpose, he hit it, then oh, I agree.
Yeah, I mean, because you, but I almost feel like if you pulled that
character out of it, it doesn't, it doesn't hurt the film.
Right. And I was trying to place who the, the sleazy guy as they kept trying to
steal the, steal the music. I recognize that guy from something.
And I can't remember it's the character's name to save my life.
It was a Chris Hanna's Ralph. No, it was, it was, it wasn't Bill Evans.
Well, I have to, and it didn't even occur to me and told the end of the film,
they're on brown, play in piano with him. That's her be Hancock.
Like, that didn't even click with me.
That he was playing her be Hancock. Yeah, that, that, that, that, that threw me.
And speaking of her be Hancock, don't get up and walk out.
That's all I will tell you. Do not get up and walk out.
End of this film.
Words, words escape me. Prepare for a clinic. I did, he played the sex himself.
I mean, the trumpet himself. That's what I was wondering.
And I, I honestly believe he did. And that credit sequence, I'm like, is he really
truly, or throughout the film when he plays, you know? Well, I mean, it says in the credits that
that, you know, performances, trumpet performances by Miles Davis and somebody else, but it
wouldn't cheat, um, and maybe it was a couple of things that that Miles was listening to to
grow to draw inspiration. But I really am curious as to whether or not, because it wouldn't make
sense if he wasn't playing for real, given the, given the set up of that scene. And we, it's really
hard to, to talk about it without, because it's always more than once in the film. Yeah. Yeah.
But I'm, I'm still really, I'm curious. I'm pretty sure the actor that you're referring to
is Michael Stullbard playing Harper Hamilton. Isn't that the character that you're thinking of?
And that's what's, that's what's messing with me is like, maybe I need to find the synopsis on
this thing if, if it describes it, uh, because I, I know this guy from somewhere, you know,
if it's who I think it is, and it looks like it is, um, he was in men in black three,
he was seven psychopaths. That's it. He was in Trumbo. He played Edward G. Robinson.
Here you go. That's okay. Because I've watched both Trumbo and men in black. He was
on a rough scene on boardwalk empire. I didn't even recognize him. There you go. Fair enough.
He was really good. He was. Yeah. But again, back to the human thing. That was just weird for me.
Because I like you in. Yeah. As I just didn't work. I, and I, and granted, I guess he just
exists as, as kind of a living narrator on a certain level. Like, like you say the everman,
we, he keeps us moving. He is us. Yeah. But Cheetos just so good in this that it just overshadows
everything. Yeah. It was, it was a tour to force performance by by Cheeto. I'm like, if you want
to be remembered for any one thing you've done, Cheeto. But it's not as good as this film is,
I understand why it's only giving a limited release. Because this film is not one that everybody's
going to love. This is not going to be one of those people are flocking to the theater to see it.
This is going to have to find its audience and then build from there. Right. Which is nothing wrong
with that. Because it's a great film. But I, I can understand why they're not going to just
get a mass market this thing and put it out there. And I think Cheetos kind of okay with that. I think
he made this movie because he wanted to make this movie. And, and one of, that's one of the
things I love about him is because he's not afraid to do that. But I don't think it's going to
make a bazillion dollars. No. I mean, like, like, say for instance, that you hired him back to
the film that he's probably best known for for, for a, for a serious acting performance in hotel
Rwanda. You know, it's, when actors make films like that, they're not doing this because
they want to, they want to fat paycheck. And especially back then, he wasn't nearly as well known
as he is now. He was known, but not as well known as he is now. And, and I think he does this just
for the love of the craft. And obviously, he's a fan. He's got to be a fan of Miles. Otherwise,
this wouldn't be such a passion project. He wouldn't throw himself into this being director and lead
actor if he didn't really care about Miles Davis. Because you, in its shows, I'm, oh, I agree.
I mean, he, he became Miles Davis. There are, there are a lot of people, you know, a lot of
actors that have played, you know, people of note. And you just, you don't buy it. You don't, you just can't.
You don't see it either. Like you said, you can't get around the actor playing the role.
Or it's just such a half-fig performance.
Um, don't want to just have caught this. Don't want to, no, no, no, no, no. I'm not even listening
to this. But, you know, I'm not mentioning any names, but, you know, he played Steve Jobs a couple
years ago. Um, very nice. You're welcome, isn't that? Uh, he has to cut your, but, um, for, for, for this role,
I really honestly couldn't think of anybody that could have played it better than he did.
Don't, I really get you want to add to this. Yeah, I would have been a lot quieter there.
Yeah, I just, because I'm listening to what you guys said. And I was, I, I, I'm with the acting.
I was through the rough. I can't find anything wrong with the acting.
But, uh, it's just, I said double it's sort of for me, because I like the look. I like the acting,
but I just, it got too confused too much back and forth.
That's why I just don't, I can't disagree with you. That's why I just don't love this film.
You know, is, yeah, I just, you strongly like this film. Yeah, just based on it.
Just can't love it, you know, based on the strength of the performance as you really are.
Oh, yeah, you can't help it like it because it was so impressive.
And it's, excuse me, lots of questions. And really, you think, is this what he is like?
And, and, and it, and it leaves you with as many questions. Yeah.
More than more than it does answers. And maybe that was something.
I like, here's one thing I want to say is that I like how it was just a certain time period.
Only a couple years. That's the whole growing up as a kid coming to New York.
It was just a certain time of his life. But I think maybe that was deep into that was his intent.
It was just to give you, you know, the first one's free after that you got to pay for it.
Yeah, the thing where he wants you to take more into who Miles was and read more about his story.
If that was the intent and that he, I think it succeeds because I, I want to know more. I still want to know more.
It walks the line of artsy fartsy and a couple of places, but it never crosses that line.
Yeah, I, I, I, I, I didn't feel like it was art for art sake agreed.
There's a couple of points where I got close. Yeah, it did. It, like you said, it walked the line.
It did very, very closely walk. But it never, it never fell over that one. Right. Right.
It, it's because when that happened, you lose me. I, I just, I can't hold my concentration on it.
I just, it just, I break away. And a soundtrack I wouldn't mind. Oh, you ain't kidding.
There's so much I want to talk about from that standpoint. And I just don't want to because I want people to
really discover this thing on their own. Yeah, especially if there is a soundtrack.
If you know there will be, if you know there will be, if the song at the end of the credits is on there.
Such great music in this film. It just, oh, such great music in this podcast right now.
I mean, and I don't want to say that sometimes I can be at the little subtle.
I see when I found my viola coming out.
But sometimes subtlety is an hard form when it comes to the music playing in the background.
Especially when you know the title of that last track.
That's odd, especially when you know this song.
Yeah, saying nothing, saying nothing.
I could just let this on play.
But we do need to get to the final analysis.
The way we do the final analysis on this show. We don't give you thumbs up thumbs down. We don't give you letter grades.
We don't give you one to ten anything like that. Our audience whom we have effective
affectionately refer to as the M fire. They like us to go a little bit deeper than that. So we're
going, I'm going to ask these boys to questions. Question number one, is would you see this film again?
If the answer is no, then we're done here.
This song just stops me. If the answer is yes, then I want to know how far they're
willing to go to see it. Full price. It's Twilight, Matt Nay, early morning on a weekend,
second run at the dollar theater, Red Box, Netflix, TV, Dawn. Would you see this again?
Yes, how far are you willing to go? Let's say Matt Nay. Fair enough. Yeah, I just didn't like the
two back and forth the way too much. But beyond that, I loved everything else.
Chad, yes, how far? I'd want to own it. I don't know if it's it's not the kind of film that I think
lends itself well to with to with theatrical setting. This is the kind of thing where you want to
watch it and immediately go to iTunes and put your headphones on and dive into the world of Miles
Davis. I would see this again. I would like to watch it in the comfort of my own home. Yes.
So I can like you said, like, I can really kind of get my hands dirty with it on a really good
sound system. Yeah, I would I would love to know that there's like a commentary track or some
feature at so a documentary or something. It makes me want to go seek out a Miles Davis documentary
and just watch it. Absolutely, you know, because you know, there's layers to this guy. Yeah,
that means that he was a dog on genius. But a mad scientist at the same. Yeah, I see. Well,
but that's about that's part of being this part of being an artist. It's like about
genius, uh, genius and sanity being so close. Mm-hmm. And this proves that if there's any if there's
any truth to this, it definitely proves that point. But before we end this thing again, we got
to think Josh and everybody out. I'll I've heard by this to this thing. Thank you so much, guys.
Some of our favorite people in the world. Yes, they are. They're our best friends. It is called
Miles ahead, written, produced, directed, um, pretty sure he was the transportation captain to
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