iTunes Exclusive Episode Macbeth

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Welcome.
My name is Rob.
I am the executive producer of the clubhouse podcast and I will read some Shakespeare on
every once again.
But I'm not alone for this particular episode across the desk from me is my co-host.
And a man that knows the meaning of the word acting.
He is Chad.
Welcome sir.
How are you doing my friend?
I'm alright.
Just you and I for this one.
Indeed.
Normally when we do these iTunes exclusives, it is to review something.
This is no exception.
But in this case, it is a film that only Chad and I got to see.
This was one of those instances where there were multiple screenings.
So we kind of had a divide and conquer a little bit.
So a little bit down the road.
You'll hear about the movie Don saw while we were seeing this.
But right now, we are focused on the new production of McBeth directed by Justin
Pursal, who is directing the upcoming Assassin's Creed film.
Ironically enough, or coincidentally enough, or on purpose.
No.
Starring Assassin's Creed star Michael Fassbender.
And I think.
Patelia.
Did it?
I think are you also in this could be in that.
Let's take a look and find that out.
Also in this Patty Constantine.
You've also got David Thulis.
Basically, here's what you need to know.
She is actually scheduled for Assassin's Creed.
You are correct sir.
Just check them out for you.
This is turning into a David or Russell.
Try it, try it.
Try them for it here.
This is, of course, based on the classic Shakespeare play, which you're not allowed to say the name of in a theater, so you call it the Scottish play.
It is the story of McBeth, who is a general on the front lines fighting for Scotland,
serving King Duncan, played by Thulin.
Of course, a title character played by Fassbender himself.
And basically, McBeth runs into these witches that basically tell him he's going to be
promoted and eventually King, which, you know, that'll message your mind a little bit.
And that might make it a bit edgy.
So we go home to talk to his wife, Lady McBeth, played by KTard.
And they decide, you know what?
Let's speed up this timetable a little bit.
And let's go ahead because the kings come and do our little town anyway.
So let's go ahead and kill him.
You're welcome in a net.
And then you'll be king and then all will be good.
Except that it drives them both timetable.
Except it's not that good.
And all of a sudden McBeth becomes Tony Suprano.
And decides he's going to eliminate anyone he perceives to be in his way,
driving him further into madness.
Tony Suprano or Tony Montana.
I don't want to look at it.
But before we get into this, we want to thank our friends from allied integrated marketing,
who enabled us to see this film a little early.
So we could review it for you.
They are such so good to us better than they ever have had to be.
And they've been our partner in business like issue could call it.
They're like the cousins that you always want to sit with at the table at the family union.
Because they always have the fun things to say.
Exactly.
So thank you guys so much.
Getting into this thing a little bit.
Visually it's done.
Oh yeah, it's gorgeous.
You know, I mean, you and I talked a lot on the drive home about.
This is going to work for Assassin's Creed.
Like this guy's video style is going to work for Assassin's Creed.
Then you also, I mean, but you also in that case,
you have to give credit to the cinematographer Adam Arcapa.
I hope that's how you say his name.
Well, I hope he brings him with him.
I hope that his his go to cinematographer.
I'm going to be checking out for he is doing a Assassin's Creed.
He also did all of season one of true detective.
Well, that's that's what a lot of people will know him from.
And I thought again, I thought the first season of true detective was amazing.
Yeah.
So I mean, the battle scenes are intense.
They're intense, but they're not over the top.
Yeah, they're not, they're not Braveheart Gory, but they're.
They are definitely like the cameras right there in the thick of it.
There's not a lot of over the over the battlefield crane shots.
They're on the battlefield with with the guys fighting.
And you get a lot of the cool 300 looking shots without looking like 300,
which I thought was going to be a problem, but that is as best as I can recall.
That's the only time they really used that particular camera technique was during the fight scene.
So I'm okay with that.
And it wasn't like overly used.
So fast bender is fast bender.
I mean, you know what this guy is.
Yeah, it's actually a phrase.
He's becoming an act.
He's, yeah, I mean, he has a walking talking act in cleaning.
You would him and Katihard together.
You got a little something going on.
The kids kind of frightening.
That's, that's a lot of strength.
And this is not one of those like they did with Romeo and Juliet.
This is set in the time with the language, which some of the dialogues seem like
it was getting blown out by what was going on around them.
And that was one of the things I mentioned on in my written review at www.clapaspodcast.com,
which is our website, which you got right the first time that a lot of these recent
attempts at bringing Shakespeare to a big screen have been a modernization or looking at it
through a completely different lens.
I mean, for all the tips and purposes, the Lion King is a Shakespeare story.
That's Norman Romeo and Juliet.
That Romeo is bleeding.
As we were talking about, we didn't much to do about nothing.
What's side story?
Ten things I hate about you.
You know, they all want to put this modern take on things to lure in a bigger audience,
to appeal to a bigger demographic than just the people that grew up just going to the
Royal Shakespeare company watching.
But I thought they made a bold choice here to go, no, we're just going to stick to the
screen.
Exactly.
Kind of like the Mel Gibson Glenn Close McBeth.
I'm sorry, Hamlet.
Hamlet.
I've got McBeth on the brain right now.
But for me, the main thing I was intrigued about going into this was, wait a minute,
you're going to give me Shakespeare an under two hours less than two hours.
Yeah.
Which I didn't think was possible, not this story anyway.
There's too many layers to write.
And I think that's part of the downfall of it for me was they had to take too much of it away.
If you were trying to introduce somebody to the story of McBeth, this is not the version
to do because it's like you're watching a Wikipedia page.
They took a lot of stuff out of it.
They added some stuff to it that wasn't in the original text and they kind of compacted it.
Well, but I look at it from a different side of that.
I think that maybe this would be a good way to introduce a younger student that's in school
studying Shakespeare.
No, no, no.
Hear me out.
You're getting that look.
I'm like, I'm going somewhere with this.
Have them watch this and then maybe it will make the written word easier to digest once
it's in front of them because they've already got a visual representation in their head
of what it's supposed to be, what it looks like.
And maybe it will make it easier to read for them.
I think that you're going to bore an audience like that because they're going to get lost
in it.
Well, it's just really hard not to get bored watching Shakespeare.
It moves so quickly that you don't really get a chance to digest what's going on.
Like what I was in high school every year we had a Shakespeare play.
This was one of them.
So even though it's been a quarter of a century and I'm not afraid to say that, I still remembered
enough about what I read.
Oh yeah, you retain something that I could get through it.
But all I kept thinking was if somebody really doesn't know the source material, they're
going to go what the crap is going on here.
There's just a bunch of people killing each other and freaking out.
Like that's what you would get out of it.
So for me, I would I would be more apt after, you know, after you have surgery to play
go back and watch the Orson Welles 1948 version.
That's more at least more to the source material.
Because this thing has been made what six, seven times.
I don't know.
I'm working to get a version of it.
Really?
Let me look that up for you.
Probably for the BBC.
They probably did a made for television version for the BBC.
I mean, this is such a multi-layered story that in order to get it down to a manageable
length.
Yeah, you're going to have to make some sacrifices to the narrative.
The fact that.
The fact that the witches are barely even a part of the story.
By the way, that version takes place in the ganglands of Melbourne.
So it's probably a modernized game.
It says it's a contemporary retelling.
But the fact that the witches play such a huge part of the story.
And they're just basically like they're the chorus.
But they're barely that.
Yeah.
Like, you see them just kind of watching things as they happen.
But there's an extra one.
And yeah.
And they rarely say a word.
I mean, you know, if you go looking for the bubble, bubble,
Torl and trouble scene.
You ain't happening.
I don't know.
So I was.
But again, I thought even, you know, you're going to stick to the narrative.
I'm cool with that.
But I think you're sound editing suffers a little bit.
Because there seems where there's so much going on.
That you're barely hearing it over all everything that's going on.
And especially when you're talking in Shakespearean English.
Yeah.
It's hard enough to follow.
Yeah.
You need to be able to hear that.
And there are times where, you know,
fast-bender Asmic Beth is just right there on the edge of completely going insane.
And he's spending so much time talking to himself that he doesn't talk to himself.
He whispers to himself.
Yeah.
And even the torches crackling in the background are louder than his dialogue.
And some of it seemed real stretched to me.
Like the tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow's speech.
I was like, let's pick up this lady.
Yeah.
You know, the out-damn spot.
It's a little quickly.
I needed her to pick that up a little bit.
Yeah.
But that's her showpiece.
That's her moment in the sun.
So you know they're going to put a big magnifying.
And I can't say I didn't like it.
But I can see how this won't be consumable by a mass audience.
Yeah.
I think.
Which might have been their intention.
Well, you don't know.
Think about where they're headed from here.
It's going to be a really limited run in theaters.
And then it's going to go straight to Amazon Prime.
And I think that comes from Amazon Studios.
Which I think that is going to be the preferred venue of watching this.
Because that way you can back it up.
It's okay.
What the heck did he say?
Hopefully it's got captions.
I wish that it would come with a copy of the manuscript.
The actual screenplay that they use.
I'd have to be the screenplay they use because you can't follow the actual text.
It was like annotations in the margins.
This is what would remove.
This is why it was removed.
You know, if for no other reasons, but for pacing.
I'd have been more.
I'd have been fine if they said this is going to be two and a half hours.
I'd have been okay with that.
Just because I felt this was so compacted.
That it was a reader's digest version.
Yeah.
And I wanted more.
I mean, again, visually absolutely stunning.
I mean, it makes me really jazzed for Assassin's Creed.
So it's such a huge fan of that game.
What would you are?
But this, it just.
You're welcome, Internet.
Yeah, it leaves you wanting something.
I don't know what that something is.
But it leaves you wanting something.
Anything else you want to add before we get to the final analysis?
Again, no knock on the filmmakers, no knock on the actors involved.
Just a little tightening and just a little bit more.
I don't know.
Exposition maybe.
And I think you would have had a better film.
I'd like you add another half hour to it.
If you've got an audience for two, you've got it for two and a half.
And this day and age, you really do.
And do a director's cut if it's out there.
Yeah.
I would, I would wish I guess what's going to exist.
I'm sure.
Well, the way we do the final analysis on this show.
We don't give you thumbs up thumbs down.
We don't give you rankings.
We don't give you letter grades.
We don't give you stars.
Anything like that.
Our audience whom we affectionately refer to as the empire is better than that.
Chad and I are going to answer two questions.
Question number one.
Is would you see this again?
If the answer is no, then we're done here.
But if the answer is yes, it's how far are you going to go?
Will you go see this in a theater?
Full price, matinee.
Twilight, early morning on a weekend.
Would you wait for the dollar theater and second run?
Which I don't think this one will actually do.
Because it's probably going to go straight back to the internet.
Like we talked about.
Would you run it from red box?
Would you stream it from Netflix or Amazon?
Or would you wait for it on cable?
Chad, would you see this again?
I would, you know, we already kind of entered this question actually.
I would watch it again if I could stream it on Amazon Prime.
And I could have some kind of a companion book to help me break down.
Or maybe a second screen experience?
Absolutely.
Is that what you're going with?
You know what?
I hadn't really thought about it that way.
But I definitely would watch it again.
I would watch it at home.
I think it can be used as a teaching tool with a second screen experience.
Or even with a commentary track on just something that would.
Well, I think I think a little bit of both because what you could do is you could use this in a classroom to teach McBeth.
And you could have a second screen experience if the kids are having on their iPads or whatever.
Which they do have in which is now.
Which they could say, okay, this was taken out.
You know, and it could work with Amazon.
Right.
Just like a lot of like we used to have an IMDB app that would do that.
Or active.
Do you ever watch that?
We watched it briefly.
We didn't get to go too deeply into it.
But some kind of an app that would tell you about what's going on.
Okay.
This is what would normally come next.
We took this out because I think that would be kind of neat.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think that is the prime setting for a film like this.
Anything else you want to add?
No.
No.
I think that pretty much so.
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