iTunes Exclusive Episode Les Miserables
Rob, Chad, Don, and General review the Dallas Summer Musical's production of Les Misérables, a nearly sung-through opera adaptation of Victor Hugo's novel set in early 19th century France. While praising the technical excellence, set design, lighting, and performances—particularly from Nick Cartell as Jean Valjean, Josh Davis as Javert, and Mary Kate Moore as Fantine—Chad struggles to connect with the story's relentlessly tragic narrative, whereas Rob found the production beautiful and worth revisiting. The show runs at Dallas Summer Musical until May 6th.
About this episode
Key takeaways
- Les Misérables is an opera, not a musical—nearly everything is sung with minimal spoken dialogue
- Arrive on time; the prologue is important and latecomers must wait 15 minutes to enter
- The production excels visually with immersive 1800s French setting, realistic fire effects, and muted candlelit lighting throughout
- Strong performances from the ensemble, particularly the innkeeper couple (Alison Gwynne and Jay Anthony Crane) who provide the only comic relief
- The story is beautifully but tragically presented—technically astounding but emotionally draining rather than uplifting
Q&A
Why does Rob call this a musical opera instead of a musical?
Because nearly everything in the production is sung with only two or three lines of actual spoken dialogue in the entire show.
What do the hosts think about the lighting design?
They appreciated how the muted, dim lighting reflected 1800s France with only candlelight and fires, creating an immersive atmosphere rather than bright production lighting.
Would Chad see this production again?
No, because while technically excellent and gorgeous, the relentlessly tragic story is not one he enjoys experiencing again.
Which song is the standout musical moment for the hosts?
Master of the House, which brought much-needed comic relief and was their favorite song in the production.
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If you are hearing the sound of my voice it means the following conditions have been met at least once in your life you have listened to the club house podcast live every Sunday night 70s during four pacific your one stop shop for all things pop culture it also means you check us out in your favorite podcast that
because it's time for another hot coals number three seventy four how about that welcome my name is Rob I'm the executive producer of the club house podcast and I dreamed a dream and it was good it's good but I'm not alone joining me across the desk in the co-host chair as he tends to do is my co-host
and a man who refuses to pronounce it miserably because he is not Alex Trebek he is Chad welcome sir no no I'm not gonna overemphasize next to him is the official fact checker of this show and the only thing he likes fronters potatoes you may know him is fond on go but his mama name him don't for
don't call him don't for to welcome sir hey I like the escort got that's your boy no no no no stop right now right now this is the lady of the house and probably the only culture one amongst us which is why she didn't have to be with us for this because she's already cultured enough and we
need the culturing she is general welcome friend good evening everyone whenever we do one of these is to review something and this is no exception we're going to the stage kids because it's time to talk a little bit of it a miserably all right for we start this whole thing yes sir we got think Paul that everybody
at Dallas summer musical we are such fans of everybody at Dallas summer musicals they do such amazing work not just on stage backstage for the community we love that they let us come and see their production so that we can review them for you guys pack house I when we were there I was going to say that
we've been doing about DSM for what four years now probably creeping up on four four something like that at least for about six weeks away from the fourth anniversary I mean I'm gonna fact check that you keep talking have we ever seen that place that packed ever maybe once or twice maybe we're but that whole four the
whole yeah I mean it was it was definitely a thing for sure man I felt like sardines in that okay so if you've never heard of Les mez first of all welcome back from the cave we appreciate you joining us and the fact that you've actually found a way to do a bit of technology to get you
there god love yeah even I know the story I know you know the story this takes place in early 19th century France by the way done I'm fact checking you right now and fourth of June will be our fourth anniversary of our first stage show I know hi oh believe me we all remember yeah I'm still working
through that and you have a guy by the name of Jean Jean Jean I've always had my hear his name it makes me think of like Keenan Thompson saying it I don't know why that's right and he is played by Nick cartel and he is serving 19 years in prison for stealing bread and he's getting paroled by
the by the guard Javier played by Josh Davis and basically he's on parole so he's got you know Don one point was a parole officer in his life probation probation same thing but you know there's yeah there's follow-ups that have to be done but what was what Jean finds out is that he can't really find good work
because of he has been in prison so he's taken in by a bishop in that bishop is played by Andrew Morgan I hope I got that right and may you g h a n by one and he kind of reverts to his always a little bit the the bishop kind of keeps him from going back to jail
as Javier comes from him again but he goes look just go get your head right right become a better man he ends up violating his parole and going basically running away and changing his identity from there he becomes a factory owner and a mayor of a small town in France and winds up through certain circumstances befriending a
young lady named 15 played for for what we saw I have to actually do the math on this was Mary Kate Moore played in our because there's two different ladies playing her actually three it looks like who he finds out is terminally ill and as she is passing he asks her to take care of her daughter collect
and so we have about a 15 year span that takes place from beginning to end of this particular story originally written by Victor Hugo and what's 11 Tony's total out of 19 nominations over two different revivals of it very popular one of the longest musicals in history but I'm not going to call it a musical because honestly
this is not a musical this is an American opera that's an operating and I say that I don't know I don't say operative because it's got some distance to it because there's maybe two or three lines of actual spoken dialogue in this entire thing everything is sung so this is not musical is an opera right just cause
for what it is I will tell you and I'm just going to say this up front whether you see it here in the Dallas for earth area where it plays until May the 6th or wherever you see this national touring company be on time yeah because they there's signs in the window that says this thing starts exactly
the time it says on your ticket normally when you go to show sometimes there's a little five or five seven minute buffer this thing happened right on time and if you're not there when the lights go down you're waiting 15 minutes to get in because the the prologue to this is it's important that there's no lights coming
in the room or any instructions because they're setting everything up right I read your review currently located at www.theclubhousepodcast.com that's our website yours as in you mine you you and you make some very valid points but I think you and I see it from different angles because I am I'm like you in the fact and I say
this in my written review currently located also at www.theclubhousepodcast.com that's our website that in the pantheon of productions that are on what you could call my bucket list one of which happens next season when this icon comes to town this isn't at the bottom of my list but it's also not real far towards the top of my
list this is one of those I hear people talk about all the time I have a very good friend of mine from high school who was big into drum and bugle core after high school and they did lay miz as a show one year but it wasn't anything that I'd been clamoring for real fast at 1 8
out of 12 Tonys okay I had to thank you thank you thank you see the fact checker doing what he does but when I saw this now I should have known going in that something was different because in the program there's something different so if you go to your program right before the who's who they give you
a full synopsis of everything that happens that should have been my first clue that this was going to be more of an opera because that's what they do when you go to opera because a lot of times they're singing you can't quite understand what they're saying because they're singing in a certain fashion or they're singing in a
completely different language in Italian or something and I was like hmm but then about five minutes in it locked in okay this is what we're doing this because we saw a different version this is the wily yeah almost four years ago that was a modern version right like but swap police and all that thought so it is
a new twist but not originally so once I locked in with that especially having seen that version of it because I've never seen it in its purest form until now I never saw either of the films that were done we own the book I've never read it uh because you know I can't read but makes two of
us knowing what I knew going in helped me it helped me kind of of sort through what was going okay this is where we are in the story this is where it's going things of that nature but where do you and I differ I really really enjoy this and let's let's put this out there on front street
from what I've read that you've written it's not that you didn't enjoy the experience it just am I correct the thing you just didn't connect with you yeah yeah I mean it's technically it was astounding absolutely beautiful from a technical standpoint the production itself is a top notch production there's no denying that there's a couple of moments
in this that visually I was like okay that was kind of cool the the the sewer escape that that's exactly what I'm talking about was one of the cool really done on stage it's just that this story it's got nothing to do with the well maybe partially something to do with a couple of the performers but for
the most part it's got nothing to do with the performers it's all about what's on the page and this this story is such an incredible downer yeah it's not the feel good story the year and and and I've I've sat through the one of the wily I've sat through the the the theatrical release with the 2012 version
yeah with with you jackman and no no no no that was a non musical version yeah and Russell Crowe singing and lead we say more but hey that means rock star sir okay he has a band thirty thirty-five foot of grants but it's just Schindler's list is more uplifting than the story is I mean it's but it's
it's it's not something that you enjoy it's something that you kind of survive but who says every production has to be no no no no we don't we also knew that going in yeah yeah so but the interesting thing for me was it wasn't like Chad went into this prepared to be let down or prepared for whatever
like he went in open-minded yeah he went in like this could be the thing that turns the corner for me and again I agree with him fully and wholeheartedly his non-connection because I can't say not in joy because there was a certain level of enjoyment because you you acknowledge the beauty of it and you knowledge the technology
of it and you knowledge the performance of it it's just this story yeah it's that's that's really the main thing that puts me off so it's just it this wasn't the thing that turned the corner for you no I mean I like I know that a lot of people look at cats the exact same way I love
that it was better than cats I would see it over and over I've never seen it yet it's about cats okay I've seen it and had a cat on my lap I'm alert to the cat probably not in the theater we oh no yet one of the members that's one of the cats members was saying I actually
came in this that I'm okay she goes to see cats she gets one of the cats members in life we go see hair somebody's doing cro- uh latch hook with her it's very strange I should get to the theater more it's kind of entertaining especially knowing the story it helped me a lot just to sit back and
enjoy the presentation itself the own one of the things that kind of took me out of it was the amount of people that didn't take the look beyond time seriously uh-huh that was disappointing to me but that didn't take me away from what was going on right I mean this thing beautiful tragically beautiful yeah yeah or beautifully
tragic depending on how you look at it yeah from either way now Don wasn't unable to say for the whole thing we hope your wife is feeling better sir please please tell us please let her let her know that we're thinking of her so you but you made it through the first act you guys had to leave
it in your mission right because well the the second act probably went about an hour yeah yeah but still this so you have about 20 minutes difference between acting on that too let me say like first up let's talk about that big elephant in a room about being on time because I knew when that first song bit
was over it was like a rush it's like it I think it was so sad that the people that were there in time it disrupted them the people that were singing at that table it's like it's a bigger thing you see people stand up I mean half the theater stand up because I'll use you know let's put
beyond that that's not the and it made me sad for the people that were outside because they missed a beautiful pro long that's what they get yeah I agree but so many people bad for them not me that's for you for being late but I mean let's talk about I thought about this visually beautiful absolutely beautiful this
was a production that it had the full Broadway it will compete with any stage set of the of any production I've ever seen in rival anything we see this is absolutely the opera that we sought the wind spear I mean it the sets are coming back to Dallas summer musicals next season as well yeah the thing though
like I really enjoyed was that backdrop and now that even changed and you saw the smoke coming from a backdrop so I really love the visual the sets you really felt like you were in France at the time it's immersive it's very immersive and there's one piece of it that you haven't mentioned that's in your written review
currently located at WWW dot the clubhouse cop podcast dot com I swear at that time see I've been sick let me okay I just want to make sure because there's another piece of this that you put in there that neither one of us did that I want to make sure you cover one thing I really liked is
this film no production that's what I said you see the that's production it was dark most of the time and it had that lighting like you were in France where the lighting was in the 1800s was just candles and fires and they used real fire that's what I was waiting on that was like well they actually used
real fire on this open flame it's like and very I guess you could call it muted lighting yeah would that be a good way because if you were in 1800s at the time in all you had was candle lights and stuff around the sky slide everywhere yeah it had it was dim most of the time which I
really liked I like that dimness the darkness because that's what it's like and there's like about three four scenes where the lights were really on I mean it was so dim that you can see all the side lights and I really enjoyed that aspect because they try to make you feel you were there at the time and
it's not a bright film it's not I mean production it's not a happy go lucky thing and so the lighting was like that through the whole production and a great task to oh the singing cartel and Davis I think we're very very good as each other's foils um let me get out that I did have to leave
at the intermission because the fantastic faith forth was not filmed that that fantastic that night so so my wife comes for us I apologize yeah she should come first yeah but I would like to say that when it comes to the acting though in a singing when Davis did that song stars oh oh we're he plays December
and he said I mean you felt the whole crowd go well this guy well you I wish you could have seen him in act two when he does his soliloquy when javair's character arc but you know the character who I can give the shout out that was not a great visual to you by the way is Alison
Gwynne who played the madem the innkeeper's wife okay for those of you that you may have now just figured out the whole culture thing I mentioned earlier I think you now get it don't did not just have a seizure uh I like french fries well here's here's the thing about her and the the gentleman that played her
husband because uh and that would be Jay Anthony Crane their roles walk a very thin line to portray though that couple who you have to hate because they're the people that mistreat co-set when she's a child and Jean Valjean adopts her they take advantage of everybody right but they also they also function as the only comic release
true in this entire story and to be able to walk that line that I want to ring your neck but you're entertaining me at the same time that's a very delicate balance and I think both of these individuals did that very well I heard you're in a little lake thing and all that yes I mean that's where
the real that's basically the only comedy we had was from them when it comes down to it so I mean I loved her role she was so funny but I mean the singing was incredible the sound was incredible I there was nothing about this I did not love the sets I was visually and audio league just blown
away from this thing well I want to I want to throw some more love around here too because Emily Bautista as epinine she really did Dave okay come on sir you knew that was gonna happen I was hopefully the moment you mentioned her name I'm like here we go in the immortal words of Brian Rian I was
wishing on a stall um she is what a pure voice yes and there's there's a there's a moment where she goes from very very loud to very very soft that I thought she just absolutely destroyed it like you talk about sticking the landing also Robert Arisa as Marais Marais Marais I never say his name right at one
of the revolutionaries that they get caught up in with the big scene at the barricade he was I thought his his chemistry with Jillian Butler's cassette was very very good really good balance with each other there was a lot of really good give and take there a lot of great emotion from these these stage performers that really
comes through and a really rock solid pit orchestra in this thing yeah I mean let's let's that nail it from the opening note the people who are not the culturally endowed sometimes like me for instance the song they know is I dream I dream because of the you know the Susan whatever name is boil boil answer but
that was not no like not but there are so many songs that even out did that one hmm I was surprised on this everybody's but her performance was still good don't get me wrong is one of the anchors of this entire which one I dreamed a dream oh okay you're talking about team yes Mary Kate Moore to
me she was the the shining star of this old thing Jen any questions you have before we get to the final analysis how is master of the house that's my favorite I mean it's fun it yeah it was it brought I mean for no pun intended it it practically brought the house down because it was much needed
it was that exhale it was yeah it was that it's a weight lifted off your shoulders it's yeah but you still want to throw something at these absolutely yeah but it's my favorite song in the whole scale yeah same here same here it's it's it's it's it's fun it was very well put together all right let's get
the final the way to the final analysis on the show we're not going to give you thumbs up thumbs down we're not going to give you letter grades numbers baguettes anything like that French fries those there's aren't French down they're named after a guy whose last name is French okay that's our boy we're gonna ask up to
two questions question number one is will we see this production again if the answers know then we're done here but if the answers yes then the follow question is since this is a stage production we need to know where are you going to sit because the closure you sit the higher the ticket price don't let's start with
you would you see they means I rub again yes I would where you're sitting um what we call the river dance spot the best spot available there was nothing of his coveted riverdale spot deal I'm very proud of river dance river riverdale I'm I've got riverdale on my brain but you know what there was a musical at
one point this is true this is true it's a French toast only if it's sung by Haywood Banks you'd a French kick a chat would you see this again I don't think so okay but we've we've explained why yeah you know it's not like you didn't like it there's just this the story it's not a story I
enjoy I can't say that I wouldn't see it again but I wouldn't rush to see it again does that make any sense yes it does it does like you said this is this is a journey this is not like you by the end of it you're just spent yeah and it's it's wonderfully done it's gorgeously presented but
I'm like it's just that story you're just like I need to go home and watch a Disney movie just to kind of get my head back on straight just yeah but but if you know that going in but then you should be fine it this this production has been fighting that battles it's a debut I agree the
critics hated it when it first opened but it just it just kept making money so it just but you know on riverdale they did carry the musical a couple yeah I would say I mean I this is this is something I've seen in the four different rooms yeah because I've seen the the you see the live production
and the two movies now this one yeah yeah so I mean I like to hold it but I was just a beautiful visually beautiful it is in Dallas fair park music call until May 6th it is it means a replica again we got to thank Paul layup and everybody at Dallas summer musical thank you guys so much
for less and we're looking forward to seeing you again in about six weeks brother we are full steam and remember go to Dallas summer musicals dot org and find out everything that's not only coming up the rest of this season but they've released all of next season and one show for the following season that about a year
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