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You may know him as fun, Don Go, but his mom and even Don Ford, I'm going to call him
Don Ford, welcome sir.
In my liver, still going.
Allegedly.
Whatever we do in these particular episodes, it's normally to review something, and today
is no different.
As a particular episode, we are reviewing the new movie from director Daniel Alfredsen,
who really you only would know him in this country.
He directed four episodes of the Foreign Version of Millennium, but he also directed the
two movies that were not the girl with a dragon tattoo in Sweden.
He directed the girl who played with fire and the girl who kicked the hornets nest.
The movie is called Kidnapping Mr. Heineken.
It is based on the true story of five friends in Amsterdam in 1983.
They all are construction workers, contractors, they own their own business, it's not doing
well.
And so they decided to try to make some money.
They're going to kidnap the founder of the Heineken beer company, played by the Great.
Great Anthony Hopkins.
It is also the largest ransom ever paid for an individual, and that's where we're going
to lead it.
It also stars Jim Sturgis, who, every time I hear his name, I think across the universe,
as well as Sam Worthington, this generation's Perseus, I guess you could say, or Mr.
Bruce Murphy's or was it, from avid?
Yes, yes.
Oh, he was a thunder smart.
That's right.
He was in the wheelchair, correct?
Yeah.
But before we get in, we got to think Carol Smith from Galer Smith for buying this to this
thing.
I know it was part of the field, but let's sneak in and watch this thing, I thought it was
very good.
And Chad, which was he could have been there.
He had a prior commitment.
That's amazing.
But he's here for support.
So, Don, what do you think is story?
Well, it's kind of hard to do something on a story like this because it's based off
a true story.
Indeed it is.
Not like, hey, they wrote a great movie or anything, basically it's from true events, but adding
the pizzazz and everything to it, I thought the story line was okay in some parts.
I thought it dragged a little bit at some points towards the end, which we said after
the fact on the, when we're talking after the film, I thought the post kidnapping, they
should have put a little bit more in the movie into that, okay?
So, still, I thought storyline was good, but you only have so much to play with.
You don't have much, you know, move around when you're trying to make this based off a true
story.
Well, and based on a book of the same name as well.
Exactly.
For me, I was intrigued by the story, but I don't know that I was satisfied with what
I got.
I'm with you, if I wish that the film had been a little bit more back heavy than
front heavy, I just kind of felt like they breeze over some things they should have gone
in the more detail on it, and went too much detail on stuff they didn't have to.
Well, you want just a trailer, and I kind of put this in my written review on the WW, on
our website, I'm sorry, WW of the clubhousepodcast.com.
That's our website.
Thank you.
I put on there that the trailer shows Anthony Hopkins character trying to get in the head
of these guys and stuff like that, right?
You didn't see much of that.
No, that's what you said.
But the reason you had that, it's was number one, it's Anthony Hopkins.
Yeah.
You put his name on some people are going to see me.
I know, but they should have put more that in there.
Right.
No, I'm not saying I disagree with you.
I'm just giving you the reasoning behind it.
Yeah.
For me, though, as much as I love Anthony Hopkins, I could have used less of him because it
wasn't about him.
It was about the these five guys, and I wanted to give him up 10 minutes of Anthony Hopkins
screen time to give him 10 minutes more to them personally.
Well, here's a problem.
You really gotten to the characters of the five.
Right.
They did that very good.
But he didn't really get much into Mr. Heineken, which is still a major part of the
film.
Well, for any Heineken, you know, I just, I just, I disagree.
And when we could disagree on what I do that, I just, that's our job to do that.
Yeah.
To me, it was more about them than it was about him.
Like, he was just kind of, he was the reason that the whole thing was happening, but
it was more about how they were dealing not only with each other, but with things
like their families.
We've got guys that hadn't really done anything like this before, and they were dealing
with crises of morality, of course.
That's what it was more about for me.
But I thought, this really got into a lot of people, but it should have got more to
him.
I just thought, because I think that would make the storyline even better, I thought.
Because that's his name's on the thing there, his name's on the saddle.
And I can see where you go there.
I just, I wanted more about them.
But that's, that's lead us into the direction of the film.
I thought the look of the film was great.
It had kind of a dark, gritty look, which I really felt fit the mood of what was going
on, and, and for the time, oh, absolutely.
There were a couple of, like, surges really look like he was wearing a wig to me.
That kind of distracting me a little bit.
There's some up and coming, of foreign actors in this that I thought that were really
good.
Oh, yeah.
Overall, I thought the direction was good.
I'm the look.
I thought it showed for the time period and what was going on and how back this was,
the look of the film really fit the time period.
I thought they hit it perfectly.
Because it's showing, hey, this was a little bit ago.
It's not black and white, but this was, you know, 20 years ago, whatever.
And we're going to kind of show, give that look of a film coming out at that time.
And that's what they did that very well on it.
I didn't realize that this story has been already told what's really.
Yeah.
I can't pronounce the original title Swedish probably, but yeah, but from the looks of it,
it looked like they got Rutger Howard a play,
Heineken in this version.
It's interesting.
Release date of October 26, 2011.
The Heineken on pulvering, or what was it?
It was probably Kidnapping, Mr. Heineken in Swedish.
Was it a TV movie? Was it a theatrical release?
It doesn't say.
It says a bold amateur.
Kidnapping goes wildly around this fictionalized account of beer,
Magnet, Freddie Heineken's 1984 abduction.
Well, we always ask Cesaro to translate the title.
Yeah.
It is a specific amount of film.
Performance wise.
I didn't have any problem with any of the performances.
I thought everybody did very well with what was in front of them.
We're the lieutenant Shepherd.
I thought they had a great chemistry together.
For the role that they did, and everything being brothers.
They're just, yeah.
Yeah.
He said Shepherd is a good guy.
Yeah.
He's a little scared.
I thought they did very, very well together on that.
On their chemistry.
For me, Worthington was the stand out here.
Yeah.
Sam Worthington is an intense guy to begin with.
And when you put him in a role, or he's just,
Well, first of all, he searches his brother-in-law in the film.
Secondly, when you put him in a role,
he's kind of the evil mastermind behind the thing.
Worthington is the guy that's, you know, he's down for whatever.
But he doesn't have that edge that Worthington's character does.
It really makes for a very interesting dynamic between this scene.
He and him from Thunder Smurfs in the,
Great guy to, he got evil in some points here.
Oh, yeah.
He plays a bad guy very, very well.
And one thing I kind of want to bring up because,
You're welcome internet.
Okay.
All right.
That's what he's going to say.
The post, the post kidnapping part.
But they really, now post kidnapping or post release.
Post release.
I'm going to run.
So the third act of the film.
The third act of the film.
I could understand why they cut it a little bit,
but they shouldn't have because,
be being a fact-chicker of the show.
I did some, you know, research into this after the fact.
They were, they stayed in France for a long time
and real life to get them extradited.
You know, it just showed them, hey, you hear a rest of the, it ends.
So I could see why they want to cut part of that,
but they, they didn't really show the whole truth.
But see, to me, that was what the film was more about.
Yeah.
It was the, the aftermath.
Yeah.
And how, you, how each one of them dealt with it differently.
Because it was a long, bro.
They were staying in a hotel for months at a time
while the extradition was being fought and everything like that.
And I think they should have done more with that.
I thought, my biggest issue with the film.
It was an hour and a half long that felt like twice that.
Really, for you?
For me, the story was very, very slow.
That's why it kind of dragged in some parts I thought.
They dragged in most of it for me.
I did it.
Like I said, I felt like they took too much focus
in certain points and not enough in others.
And there were moments where I was like,
where is the chase and how can I cut to it?
And how many times did you look at your watch?
I lost count.
Okay.
But first time I looked at my watch, we were 20 minutes in.
Well, my thing is during that first couple scenes
where it's boom, boom, boom.
And it's hitting the walls and everything like that.
I thought, hey, this kind of might be a good little flick here,
but then it, you know.
No, I see where you're going with that.
It just was so slow for me.
That I was just kind of like this.
This thing has to pick up.
It wasn't that bad for me, but I thought I did drag.
I just wanted more after the release.
That was my big thing.
Acting like I said,
more than 10 was incredible.
I thought.
Hopkins is just Hopkins.
I think you should know what you get with it.
Yeah, like course.
And that's not a bad thing.
It's a very, very good thing.
You get what you get with Anthony Hopkins
because he's Anthony Hopkins.
They should have had more of him in the movie.
And right now with the screen.
Yeah.
We'll definitely agree with you.
Yeah, totally.
But another great performance from
Jemima West,
who plays Sonia.
The wife of Sturgis is a surgeon's wife.
Yeah.
Yeah.
His pregnant wife.
She I thought was great.
And she, although she had very limited screen time.
Yeah.
She was rock solid.
Yeah.
Well, you take Shepard and her on the telephone.
That's on the phone.
That was, that was Sturgis.
I'm sorry.
Sorry.
What's the answer?
Okay.
You saw this movie, right?
The one guy.
That one guy.
But they're telephone scene.
And you watch what I'm talking about.
All right.
I know that was very intense.
Very intense.
There's a good, there was a good, good sense of moments.
Exactly.
But overall, I just felt it dragged on too long,
especially for a movie that's only an hour and a half long.
It felt like so much longer than that.
And it didn't have to.
But in for me.
Not that bad.
All right.
Well, let's go ahead and get into the final analysis here.
The way we do the final analysis on the show.
We don't give you thumbs-up thumbs down.
We don't give you letter grades numbers, stars.
Our audience, the empire is better than that.
What we're going to do is we're going to ask two questions.
Question number one is, would you see this film again?
The answer is no.
Then we're done here.
Again, you're welcome.
Internet.
Nice.
If the answer is yes, we turn it into how would you see this film again?
Would you pay full price?
Would you see that?
It's Twilight, Matt Nate, early morning.
Would you wait for it in second run?
Would you get it on red box?
Would you get it on Netflix?
Would you wait for it on cable?
Would you see this film again?
I would say yes on it.
And I would probably watch it on the ilk of something like HBO.
But I'll recommend it to the empires of Matt Nate.
I would see this film again.
But I would even recommend HBO.
Like wait for maybe VOD if you've got nothing going on.
And you want to pay a couple of bucks just to watch a movie.
It's not one that I would go see this theatrically.
It just wasn't that kind of a film for me.
Yes.
That's the bait between Matt and Air Dollar Theatre.
I mean, for me, check it out.
I mean, maybe you'd go in my red box one night and it's there.
And you know what?
Oh, this looks interesting.
I wouldn't rush to the theatre.
The acting was worth the least there.
Yeah, so great performance.
Just don't get me wrong.
The cast alone is what got me intrigued.
I'd want to see it.
Especially after hearing you guys analyze it.
It's just, like I said, for me, it dragged quite a bit.
So that way, you know, get it on VOD or rentals.
That way, you can pause it every once in a while and stretch.
And that's a Dollar Theatre or the, you know, Matt Nate wanted to.
But once again, Carol Smith gave her Smith.
Thank you so much.
Great job.
Great job.
Great lady.
Thank you for inviting this thing.
All right.
Let's do the plugs.
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It was not what I want.
I don't want to end it right now.
Sometimes I have to run to read.
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I thought I was bad.
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Oh, yeah.
I thought I saw it.
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I just didn't thought about that one too.
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