iTunes Exclusive Episode I Tonya

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Three hundred and thirty eight of these things. It's crazy.
Welcome. My name is Rob. I am the executive producer of the Clubhouse podcast and I once saw somebody make fun of this event in the middle of a roller rink.
When I was doing Houston ministry and that's true story.
But I'm not alone for this particular episode joining me across the desk as he tends to do from time to time is the official fact checker of this show.
And a man that doesn't think that this is the corneous thing he's ever done.
You may know him as fond don go but his mom and even don't ford I'm gonna call him don't ford welcome sir.
I like corn tortillas. Totally not the same. Okay.
Whenever we do one of these things it is to review something and this is no exception.
So you take the guy that directed Lars and the real girl the finest hours million dollar arm and the remake of frite night.
And then he decides he's going to do a mockumentary about Tonya Harding.
He is Craig Gillespie. It is I Tonya.
For us to have this whole thing. Yes sir. We got think Brad and everybody at funds PR.
Hey! Thanks for the invite. I did. I actually missed the screening that you went to but I saw it on the link screener link that you left.
Yeah you and I went to uh saw it different times. I saw this a while back. Yeah I just saw it on the screen recently.
Yeah so we can talk about this if like it's kind of weird the way this works because when I first heard that this was going to be a thing.
I mean recently 30 for 30 did did one of their episodes called The Price of Goal.
And I saw that which is a which is a real documentary about chronicling the events leading up to During and after the 1994 January knee clubbing of Nancy Kerrigan by the on again
off again husband of Tonya Harding, Jeff Galuli and his little buddy Sean Eckhart.
You paid a guy to go off and do it and all that yeah.
Very very good 30 for 30. Oh yeah. Very much enjoyed it. I mean I remember when this happened so did I but then I heard Margot Robbie was going to be playing
Tonya Harding and I was like yeah I don't know. I'll reserve judgment but I don't know. But then you've got Sebastian Stan playing Galuli.
You've got Allison Janie playing her mother LaVonna Golden. Uh McKenna Grace is actually makes an appearance of this as a young Tonya Harding.
Julian Nicholson who you might remember from Law Order Criminal Intent. She plays one of the coaches and an appearance as a hard copy producer by Emmy Award winner and
Coconut Creek High School alumnus Bobby Canna Valley. Realness as well. But I went into this screening and I was like okay I'm going to go into this fairly open-minded because I'm going to be interested to see how this works.
Okay. As the film starts it's done in true mockumentary style and this runs right at two hours.
Is that what they call that thing? Because that's called mockumentary. Yes.
They start with the interviews and it took me a minute to lock in with Margot Robbie playing Tonya Harding.
But dude, once I was locked in, I was committed. Oh yeah, she absolutely crushes this thing.
Uh huh. She starts playing Tonya right at probably about high school age. You could say that and goes all the way through.
I was shocked at how well she did this role. Not that she's not a good actress because she is. She's great.
She's actually from Australia. If you ever see it, she hasn't. She talks normally in big short. Yeah, but for Wall Street, but she's really, really good in this.
I'll give it. Yeah. I mean, she got a golden globe nomination out of it. I don't doubt it. As they get more. As did Alison Janney. That does not surprise me.
I love this movie so much. So did I. Sebastian Stan is Jeff Galuli. You might remember him as the winner soldier from the Marvel films.
He's hilarious in this, but I'm going to tell you something.
Who absolutely steals this film from me?
Is Paul Walter House or a play Sean Eckhart? When I first saw him on screen, I was like, is that Horatio Sands?
No, that's not Horatio Sands. He, when they show the side-by-side comparisons between him and the real-life Sean Eckhart,
who, as John likes to say, might be a soda short of a six pack or five. Three cans short of a six pack. This guy is crazy nuts.
I mean, he absolutely delusional eyes are bodyguard. He's just some idiot, man. Yeah.
It's everything I thought it would be once it got up and running and more. Like, this movie really exceeded my expectations.
And it works for people that don't know the story. It tells the story pretty well. I like to think that this could be a companion piece to that 30 for 30.
So you can get the full story. Well, this, I, I, if you go to my written review, www.cumbasspodcast.com. That's our website. I put on there that this
film really reminded me of that 30 for 30. Yeah, I thought I'm watching that thing again. I honestly thought that.
And let's get to the story straight. It's, it's, it's in real-life Sean Eckhart and Jeff Galuli, Galuli, his name is Galuli. Galuli.
They hire someone to do the hit on Tonya Harding. They don't do it. They kind of plan it. Ask some guy go it.
But he leaves the biggest people trail you can find. You know, he can have a shredder with confetti saying, follow this trail.
And that being less of a trail than what this guy left on going to NASA Chooses to do the hit and stuff like that.
Right. And then it all came out. We all know what happened. But this thing really, really, really reminded me of that.
What happened on that 30 and 30 nominated for three Golden Globes and two Screen Actors Guild Awards.
Best Mutant for the not Golden Globes, best motion pot picture, best motion picture,
musical or comedy, Alison Janie and Margot Robbie both nominated and they were also both nominated for Screen Actors Awards.
Now, let's talk about Alison Janie.
She plays the loving mother, Levana Holden, loving used very loosely.
Yes. The mother loves her parrot.
She loves her daughter.
Yeah, the biological mother of Tonya Harding, he could say.
No, I guess who she is.
Yeah, absolutely.
There's the dispute by the real life of Lovana, saying how she's a wonderful mother.
Another stuff is true, but you watch some of those interviews and some of that footage of her mother
in real life. And I think Janie,
Janie,
Alison Janie, hit it on the head with this thing.
Here's my thing with that.
Yeah.
I love Alison Janie.
I think she is an amazing actress.
She, to me, is CJ Craig from The West Wing.
Hands down one of the best performances I've seen a long time.
The help, Juno.
But she's so great all the time
that for me, this was just on par for her.
She's just so great that this didn't blow me away like it has a lot of people.
And that's kind of the blessing and the curse of being as talented as she is,
is I look at that and I go,
no, that's what I expect from her all the time.
So for me to nominate her for best supporting actress in this thing,
I don't know that I could.
I can't because I think she really plays.
Again, she's great.
Don't get me wrong.
Yeah.
And she does some great things, but just because you're,
and I see your point about the curse it could be.
But look at Merrill Street.
How many times has she been nominated?
No, but I don't turn to the same stand.
Yeah.
You know, it's, it's just like Jared Leto said the Oscars two years ago.
He went through the best actresses and he said,
and in accordance with a California state law, Merrill Street,
which was funny.
But it's, it's, again, it's that blessing and that curse.
But she is.
It does this role perfectly.
I could see no fault in her.
The one that really sticks out is when the press hits,
then she goes to Tania's house to say hi.
And you find out why she can't provide a say hi.
It's one of those movies that you, like,
part of the problem I've been saying all years,
2017 has been such an amazing year for film.
It's such a competitive field.
You know, I was looking at my, my list today
of movies that we've seen this year as I'm ranking.
And I've seen 75 films by the time we record this.
And I'm seeing stuff midway down the list that I'm like,
I love that movie, but there's so much great stuff out there.
Yeah, that's same problem last year.
And as you, as you watch this film,
any other year, it might be more of a standout film.
It's still a great film.
I still highly recommend it.
But the thing about this story is as you watch it,
I kept finding myself going, this all really happened.
Like, this is, they didn't make this up.
Like, this really, really happened.
And it's one of the most outlandish stories.
Like earlier this year, we saw Logan Lucky
and how crazy that was.
But you can look at a film like this.
That's a true story.
And you're like, you know what?
That's kind of feasible too.
Yeah, it's like,
Colleywood couldn't write this thing.
Oh, it's, and it's so well done and it's so well produced
and it's so well presented.
It's one of those films that,
even though there's a lot of buzz around it,
I still think a lot of people are going to be caught off guard
by this film by the way.
Good it is.
Unless you listen to our show and then we'll tell you all about it.
Yeah, but people who think, oh, time, you're hearting, whatever.
And here's a, I think what's going to happen.
A lot of people are going to be like you
when you first heard about it, you're like,
eh, but then I think when the word of mouth
really gets out on this thing
because you went in with that, eh, yeah,
I think your bar was not set clear to the ceiling.
It wasn't, it wasn't.
And you come out, it's like, whoa, this was good.
And I came out going, this was so much better
than it has any business being.
Exactly.
And you want thing I loved?
The soundtrack.
Oh, yeah, they used, they got the rights of the right songs
to fit the right moments.
Devilwoman, you long spin since I heard that song.
Oh, I got it in my head.
But there is a scene that I read on IMDb
that if you remember the scene where she
right in the middle of her routine,
she skates up to the judges
and she's talking trash to him
and she says I'll line before she skates away.
Yeah.
Apparently that didn't really happen,
but Tanya Harding when she saw the movie,
saw that scene and went, you know what?
I wish I'd actually said.
That's.
So there's some manager in, well, there's always,
yeah, if you watch the 30 for 30,
yeah, it shows a great interview of Harding.
But the interviews they show in this film,
I think they put a lot of artistic
because I don't think these are exact quotes from time.
Oh, no, it's not going to be, but it's,
and I love the screens when they split the screens.
Oh, absolutely.
When it shows her and her husband
and they, and then about this one incident,
you hear them say two different things
about the same incident at the same time.
Yeah, how they did that, I, I really love that part.
This is just really well done on every level.
I mean, this is one of those films
that I think you can tell how much heart and soul
was put into this by everybody involved.
It just didn't get the major media push
that other, a lot of, a lot of other films did,
but it got enough to get recognized.
And that's the important thing here.
And I think the recognition,
and I think the word of mouth is really going to help this.
I thought the same thing, and I Tanya boom.
And then I watched the screen around this
and I was going, I really like this.
The soundtrack I love.
Yeah, I mean, a specific part of that
in my written video, www, that's ClubSmartCast.com.
That's our website.
But yeah, I, there's not much of this film
I did not like, did not enjoy,
because I remember living through this
when it happened, I remember the Olympic things
and her putting her skate up in front of the judges
and all of that and the,
why, why, why, I'm a whole media frenzy.
I mean, absolutely.
If people don't know, that was the most
watch Olympic event in history
that figure skating from the 94 Lily Hummer.
And a year prior,
no one even thinks something like that
and CBS got cash gold on that thing.
It's, it's really, anything that you want to get
before you get to the final analysis,
because I think we've covered it.
Yeah.
The way we do the final analysis on this show,
we're not going to give you thumbs up, thumbs down.
We're not going to give you, you know,
letter grades, numbers, knee braces, anything like that.
We're going to ask, oh, it's going to,
that's more reserved for wrestling.
I'm, we're going to ask up the two questions.
Question number one is, would we see this film again?
If the answer's no, we're done here.
But if the answer's yes,
the follow the question is, how far are we
willing to go to see it?
And I say, we, because Don and I both got to check this out.
From the best of the best of the worst of the best,
here's the, here's the order.
Full price at the theater,
Twilight show, Matt and I,
early morning on a weekend,
second run at the dollar theater,
actually leaving your house to go get it from red box,
streaming on Netflix,
or just waiting for it on cable.
Don, would you see this again?
Definite. How far are you going?
You'll be surprised.
They covered it.
Really? You have not given that out in a long time, sir.
I did about two weeks ago in that other one,
but that was about it.
I was going to say, you've been real stingy with the,
I could not, I could not, I could not.
There's a shot.
You know, I can't, but article mention
or maybe in the top possible.
Yeah, I find that out very, very soon.
I can just can divide.
There's nothing about this.
I did not love in this film.
I couldn't think, I fully agree with you.
See this movie any way you can,
and support it any way you can,
because it's a great, great film.
It's well written.
It's well executed.
It hits the comedy in the right notes.
It hits the drama in the right notes,
and you will spend most of two hours
shaking your head going, this actually happened.
It kind of reminds me of when I put my review,
the Weenner documentary.
It's like, great documentary.
It's like, it's a drama test version of Weenner
of somebody who can't get out of their own way.
Exactly.
So, again, it is Craig Gillespie's I-Tanya.
We got to think Brad and everybody at FontsPR.
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