iTunes Exclusive Episode Battle Of The Sexes

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a biopic everyone's in again just how I roll but I'm not alone for this particular episode
joining me across the desk in the co-host chair is the lady of the house and a woman that
is slowly would surely getting herself caught up on the world of sport she is general
welcome friend hello everyone whenever we do one of these it is to review something this
is no exception to that rule the directors of little miss sunshine Jonathan Dayton and
Valerie Ferris bring us a brand new film based on one of the biggest sporting events
of the 70s and the title of the film is actually was the title of the event it is battle
of the sexes and we want to thank all of our friends over at sly fox for helping us out
get let us see movies early so we can review them for you with the empire we're such big
fans of those guys all right so let's set this up this is the true story 1973 the year
that I entered this mortal coil that is true Bobby rigs challenges Billie Jean King to
a tennis match in a time where there's a lot going on with this women were making about an
eighth of what the men were making that I want to say that was the number she thought that was
the one she threw out but I mean that was a one they weren't they weren't getting the respect they
deserve especially the tennis world so Billie Jean King this played by the Emma Stone decides that
with her manager played by the Sarah Silverman they're going to break off and form their own tour
the Virginia Slim's tour which I believe in some iteration is still around today but it's not
called that anymore no so they get a bunch of women together to sign up for this thing go off
on their own Bobby rigs is a guy who is a hustler tennis hall of favor yes needs to make a butt
trying to be his own man in his 50s yeah trying to get out of the shadow of his in-laws because he
works for his father-in-law his wife played by the great Elizabeth shoe and rigs and rigs played
by the great Steve Carell and the path that we go towards in that now in my written review currently
located WWW dot the clubhouse podcast dot com that's our website I put that this film is a really
good companion piece to a documentary that HBO did I believe it's called Billie Jean King
portrait of a legend I believe it was in 2006 if I'm not mistaken that tells a really good
complete story this particular film is just about that chapter but it's not just about the tennis
match now there are multiple storylines going in here of course Billie Jean King
trying to figure out what her destiny really is what her fate really is who she is Bobby trying
to be his own man they've also got one of the best tennis players Margaret court is part of this
story and it's really and the script here is incredibly strong it is it is and Billie Jean
and her current partner were involved with this heavily they were they were consultants yes and you
can see that the influence and after the movie I did some research and there were some exact
quotes that were in the movie absolutely and it was nice to see some of those reiterated
it's right at two hours yes I was engaged the entire time with the script and I say that
with a caveat because I really like I said I enjoyed this film it's a great film it's I feel
an accurate portrayal of what was going on the time without really sensationalizing it yes
my issue is I never really completely bought either one of them completely I enjoyed both
performances by Stone and Corel so as the character correct okay first of all Emma Stone has the
list and you can't get past it Billie Jean King does not have a list and she's Billie Jean is an
attractive woman Emma Stone is a pretty woman but I still think visually it was they came very close
without trying to do prosthetics or anything like that I thought they did a very good job
but it never got that last 5% to sell me and Corel same thing and see on Corel
he did an amazing job to me with the part there were even some at the end some photos of
Bobby and Billie Jean King from real life and there was one or two of Bobby and it's like okay
for no prosthetics that's awfully close to being a twin not not quite identical but it still
wasn't enough to sell me though but the the performances were good I mean these two you know what
you're getting they're great they're great performers I just never fully bought in on them
as the characters from a physical standpoint and from an audio standpoint at certain points
Corel's accent seems to come and go a little bit yeah but I genuinely bought their chemistry
I mean you get the picture on the one sheet that is straight out of the press conference
very famous picture of the two of them this is shot you can tell the shot very well with care by
the directors that there was no real lack of days ago we're just gonna get through this like they
really felt the need to tell the story which I thought was great the the the performances to watch
in this for me are Wallace Langham and Alan coming yes they both have very small roles in this
as the costumers for the Virginia Slim's tour but their their scenes are at the right moments with
the right impact yes I agree with that where it's very pivotal moments in the story where they just
one line here one line there and it just kind of hits you in the chest and I really dug that about
this and it helped make the story flow absolutely you know no telling if that's 100% accurate for what
they did but it would fit it fit and it floated it helped explain some things without going into
a another 20 minute dialogue and the match itself is about the last 20 minutes of the film right
because they actually do do part of the Margaret court Bobby rigs because Margaret played him first
well yes which was the catalyst because not what made it for people that don't know this story
and I don't want to go too deep into it if you don't know it but
he faced Margaret first yes because Margaret at the time was the number one player in the world
and it was the mother's day match and it was held on a mother's day she did have a small child
and she did travel you know tennis tour with her baby and her husband and that also factors
into the time period but but very well portrayed I thought there was some some really great even
even though there were some tennis sequences that they didn't quite mask the doubles as well
as they could there were a couple of ones I was like that's not Steve Correll that's not
her that's not understood but the tennis sequences I thought overall were really well done
the training sequences I thought were great yes again shot well visually great strong story I
that was my only stomach block was just those two performance and it takes place of course in
1973 yep and you get that 1973 vibe through the costuming the hair the vehicles which is something
Don is very very picky about Don was not with us for this he's still Don and Houston helping out
the people down there so keep fighting a good fight brother yes and we're very proud of you Don
and the lighting but it wasn't I mean I remember in the 70s watching things and you obviously knew
you were watching something it didn't wasn't quite as quite as crisp as we get now so we had the
crispness of modern day but we still had that true 70s vibe and I liked how they did that also a great
performance by Bill Pullman as kind of her foil and if I'm not mistaken Pullman's son is also in
this Lewis Pullman who plays Carell's son oddly enough let's see it's not telling me it's not
telling me anything but I mean I'm gonna I'm gonna make the assumption because he looks a lot like
his old man too if that is truly his old man and you have kind of a reteaming in this because you
have Martha McIsaac playing peaches I'm not sure if you know who she is any which one she was
watching the movie but I don't remember peaches being a tennis no I'm talking about the actress
Martha McIsaac's previously has worked on Emma Stone when they were in super bad together
she was also on a show that I absolutely loved with Bill Pullman called 1600 Penn
okay a couple of years ago so I thought she was great in this film as well Fred Armason has a very
small role and it's very Fred Armasony I mean it's Fred Armason doing the characters Fred
Armason does Eric Christian Olson also in this I mean there's this is a packed packed packed cast
and again strong script I thought the script was amazing if there's any nominations that come
out for this I wouldn't be surprised if if I don't I don't know if you'd call this adapted
screenplay or not but it's this very strong screenplay again my own my downfall was just
the physicality of the two mains and I think it's because you and I have watched and witnessed
and seen them on TV and stuff when we were children we're a little more familiar whereas some
of the people who would see this movie now aren't going to have known them well and you think
about that that this is literally two generations removed right and so and when we were at our
screening there were a number of different people who of a different generation than you and I are
right and you could tell which ones knew the story and which ones didn't given by the reactions
of the crowd therein which I thought was really interesting so again I don't want to go too deep
into it because if you don't know the story it's it's it makes the film I think a little more
fascinating and I don't know I mean I could be completely off base here but you and you mentioned
this earlier I don't know that there were a lot of liberties taken here from remembering what I
remember about the documentary that HBO did I don't remember a lot of of liberties taken there I was
like no they don't really talk about that there's there's not a lot but there's like there's one
semi-important character who's put in a role but that the first name is the right first name but
what her actual job was is different somebody who joined the the tour at a certain point yeah
uh-huh who joined the tour at a certain point her real job wasn't what she was cast as but for
the movie it made sense to put it in with that role and it flowed a little better than if she had
her real and from a story standpoint it kind of fit a little better too yeah and they honored her
and respected her and gave her the right first name right so there is that uh anything else you
want to add before we get to final analysis um not that I oh maybe do some research before you
decide to take children there are definitely some adult themes in this for sure it's not graphic
or gratuitous it's very respectfully done however you may want to do your research before you
just Google Billie Jean King yeah that'll tell you what you need to know yes all right let's get
to the final analysis the way we do the final analysis on the shows we're not gonna give you thumbs
up thumbs down we're not gonna give you letter grades numbers tennis rackets anything like that
what we're gonna do is we're gonna ask two questions question number one is would you see this film
again at the answers no then we're done here but if the answer is yes then we have a follow up
questions how far you willing to go to see it because that determines how much you enjoyed the film
from best of the best to the worst of the best here's your spectrum full price at the theater
twilight matinee early morning second run at the dollar theater actually leaving your house to get
it from red box streaming it on Netflix or waiting for it on cable Jen would you see this again
yes how far you willing to go matinee or early morning so you'd still go in first run
yeah at the less expensive price okay that's fair I mean that's right there on the precipice as
we like to say it's fun to see with it's a fun one to see with other people I would definitely see
this again for a first time I think I would agree with you maybe a matinee would be good
for repeat viewings I might could wait for it on red box yeah or still a great film yeah
battle the sex is directed by Jonathan Dayton and Valerie Ferris and again thanks to our friends
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