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Whatever we do one of these, it is to review something.
And this particular episode is no different.
But today.
Or tonight.
I don't care.
Whenever you listen to this, I'm going to hear a judge you outwardly.
We review the finale of the Marvel Cinematic Universe phase two.
It is Ant-Man.
Directed by Peyton Reed.
From a script by Edgar Wright, who is originally directing this thing.
But Peyton Reed, you would know for the, for the yes man, the breakup,
bring it on, down with love.
You know, he directed almost all of the episodes of the Weird Alcio?
Yes.
And I dug him up.
And I'm like, how did this guy get this gig?
Starting Paul Rudd, Michael Douglas, Evangelion Lily, Corey Stoll.
You know, I can remember I have to knew him from.
He was on Laundered with Los Angeles.
That was a big role for him.
I never watched that one.
Uh, Coca-Cola Creek High School alumni, Emmy Award winner Bobby Canne
Values in this, Judy Greer, Michael Peña, TI.
David Dast Malhian.
I hope I got that close.
That guy's last name that's hard to pronounce.
John Slattery, Martin Donovan, Garrett Morris.
And there's something about that.
I want to talk about when we get to the casting.
I know.
You read the original.
Oh yeah.
For those of you that are uneducated.
This is the story of Scott Lang, who in the comics is the second iteration of
Antman after Doctor Hank Pym, who was played by Michael Douglas.
The way they're telling the story here.
Michael Douglas is Hank Pym existed more in like the early days of shield.
Just post World War II.
So now he's older, Cold War era Antman.
He has his own company, kind of sorta, Pym Technologies.
Where he is invented a particle that can make a full-sized person shrink down
to the size of an insect and back.
But Corey stole plays Darren Cross, who was his protege at one point.
And then he kind of turned his back on him.
But he has found a way to try to replicate this formula to weaponize it.
Next to him is Hope Van Dyne, played by eventually Lily, who is also Hank's daughter.
She has the last name of her mother.
And we're not going to ruin that for you if you don't know what it is.
If you know what it is, then you know.
And so Paul Rudd's Scott Lang X-Con just gets out of prison, tries to get a straight job.
Can't do it.
Although there's a couple of funny little scenes about that in there.
So he decides to go back to his old ways as a burglar slash hacker.
And goes on a job with his buddies.
His buddies Luis and his buddies.
Curtain Dave.
So that's where you get Luis was a sell mate.
Yeah, Luis was a sell mate.
Yeah, Luis was a sell mate.
And that's where Pymia and that's Malkey and T.I. come into play.
And we all went T.I.
Is that T.I.?
Well, we have what he's trying to play at straight.
Right.
But he couldn't write for his daughter.
Yeah.
But he also got a child support.
Right.
So he falls back into his old ways.
And it breaks into a house to break into a safe.
That's supposed to have a ton of money in it.
And all it's in there is this suit.
So we take it anyway.
I mean, you broke it.
You might as well break it.
Because he thinks that's a cool looking motorcycle suit.
Yeah.
And it turns out to be the Antman suit.
He winds up being taken under the arm under the wing,
if you will.
Of Pym and trained to be Antman to take on
Darren Cross and try to stop this thing from getting out.
Yeah.
I think it's about a steep as we want to go.
Yeah.
Dom are going to start with you.
Actually, you know, I go.
Okay.
Because I want to start with Chad.
We got kind of a new friend of the show.
Jenna, who's the new employee at the Susan Jacobs.
Hi, Jenna.
We want to think Jenna and Susan Jacobs and Susan Jacobs
incorporated for inviting us to this thing.
And also the great people at Disney.
They are very good to us.
And they let us watch it 9x3D.
Oh, yeah.
Hello.
The chat actually want to change gears.
And I'm going to start with you.
Because I know that you,
you're, you're background on how this, this whole thing happened,
which is evidence in your review, which I don't,
at www.theclubhousepodcast.com, which is our website.
You actually go into a little bit of the backstory of this.
So I want to start with Peyton Reed.
With the resume, we gave of him.
Not a guy that I would look at and go.
Can do a superhero movie.
Right.
I agree.
What did you think about what how he wound up doing it?
You're right.
We were not for sure exactly.
Did he feel many of this?
Did he leave?
So he left before it when the production.
He did test footage.
I mean, Edgar Wright had this thing in development under his,
a little umbrella for the better part of a decade,
before more of her studios even formed.
And it was truly his baby.
This was a character that he was really obsessed with.
And for him to exit the project,
the way he did.
I mean, right at the 11th hour.
Basically, just said, no, I can't do this.
Now that Disney's taken over.
He didn't want to be a part of it because his vision didn't
jive with their vision because it's to me.
This is like when we often hear about celebrity divorces.
And we hear about a reconcilable differences.
Anytime an artist leaves a project,
it's usually due to three differences.
So for whatever reason, he didn't want to be a part of it anymore.
But a big chunk of his script state intact.
And when they brought this guy in.
When they brought Peyton in to take it over.
It seemed like all the hard stuff.
It pretty much been done for him already.
So that's not a lot of really heavy lifting needed to be done.
At least from a screenwriting standpoint.
I mean, he still had to direct the thing.
Yeah, he still had to direct the thing.
And I don't know how much casting changes he had to go through after
Edgar Wright had the people in place that he wanted in place.
But I'm impressed with the guy.
I mean, when you look at his resume, you really don't think that a guy like
this could handle something of this magnitude.
But then you go back and look at Mark Webb taking over for Spiderman.
And all he had done was, what was it?
500 days of summer.
As I was called, a small little indie type romance comedy.
That's a lot more Loki than anything that this guy has done.
Heck, you know, bringing on was a pretty big film.
Done?
I kind of have a great chat.
I was a little worried about Peyton directing this thing.
Because you look at his resume.
You know, it's mostly comedies and stuff like that.
Like to break up, bring it on.
Down with love.
And I'm thinking, is that really the resume you want for somebody doing
a superhero film?
Because it's totally, you know, whole different realm.
Compared to his resume when you really think about it.
But it seems to be the direction they keep going.
Yeah, Favro.
What if Favro done before Iron Man?
The biggest film he had done?
Yeah.
Swingers?
You're going to look at this up.
I mean, I'm just off the top of your head.
I really can't think of anything big budget that Favro ever got handed.
And they handed him the reins to Iron Man.
And that really got this ball rolling.
Well, if we want to get into the storyline a little bit, I was surprised.
This film helped me really kept me intrigued.
The whole time through the whole film.
I was really surprised on it.
It didn't leg for me at all.
It didn't seem long to me.
It didn't seem like they tried to extend it.
It flowed very, very well.
And you get the action with the film.
And you get a good amount of comedy.
But they put the comedy at the right time at the right place.
And I think he really nailed it on the mark on this thing by adding a lot of comedy
because he did the comedy great.
I think that has a lot to do with Edgar Wright's script as well.
But for me.
And I said all the way up until probably two hours before the screen.
Why am I?
Yeah.
Like this is a very fringe character.
It's one of the lesser characters.
I could see you putting him into a team up film or even in an Avengers film.
Which they should have, I think.
Which they may still.
Because in the animated series they have added him to the team.
By the time this the film comes out.
But I said the same thing about Guardians as much as I love Guardians of the Galaxy.
I was like this is a little obscure, man.
And they pulled it off.
So why I keep doubting Marvel Studios is now beyond me.
But they really, really got the essence of this story.
Now I'm not going to do any spoilers here.
But I honestly believe there was a golden opportunity missed.
And if you see me in real life or if you email me at robintheclubhousepodcast.com
After you see the film, I will tell you what it is.
And I thought about that yesterday morning.
I was like, we haven't even talked.
You guys haven't even heard what I think they've missed a golden opportunity
to straighten out a little bit of continuity.
Ask me after we get off to here and I'll tell you.
But it didn't take away from my enjoyment of the film.
I think there was the perfect balance.
I said after we left the screening of it's got the lightness of Guardians.
But it's got that storytelling of the first Iron Man.
Which it was a great balance they struck.
And a lot of people were doubting Paul Rudd because you know you're simply a lovable goofball.
I thought he did a great job here.
Playing the character for lack of a better term.
He's playing the reluctant hero.
But he's not really reluctant.
But he's just not, he doesn't want to be the hero.
He wants to be the hero to his kid.
It's a mantle that's kind of being forced upon him.
He doesn't really want to do it.
But he knows that if he doesn't, he's got no options.
I mean, Michael Douglas, you know what you're getting there.
Who played this role, exceptionally.
Probably the best performance I've seen him do in a long time.
And if you look like he actually cared.
That's something I mentioned in my written review that there's that.
Don't all you have to do is say the name of the website.
That's it. That's the whole thing.
Anyway, it's on our website.
That there was a sense of almost like part in the fun of your community.
I'll know it's not the same show that he was on.
He was on Parks and Rec.
That there's a sense of family about it.
That they all genuinely seem to enjoy what they were doing.
I'd like to add Chris Pratt with on Parks and Rec.
Apparently so was Paul right.
Yeah, he was.
He was.
Yeah, he played.
The.
A spoiled brat guy, basically.
Bobby Newport.
Newport.
I think Chris Pratt.
I'm guessing.
But then I've watched the first episode of Parks and Rec and Rec and Rec.
You read a my written review at the clubhouse podcast.com.
That's our website.
I was worried that.
Having Brian Pantana play and man.
Does it scare you?
Jesus.
Shut it.
Jesus.
Satan.
That's it.
Yeah, that was the one he forced me to watch.
That's the one you watched.
Yeah, I have a Brian Pantana play.
And man, with this work.
And it's two totally different characters.
But he nailed it.
I didn't even think of him as Brian Pantana or the guy from the four year old version.
You know or crap.
Bag from friends.
Exactly.
He.
You know.
First one crap, last thing about he surprised me.
surprised me. I was a little word coming in, but I think he did very good. He was the one I
worried about the least. Really? Yeah, I had no, I had no no concern about it. I wasn't worried,
but I didn't, I didn't have a feeling one way or another. I was like, I'll accept it for now.
Well, it's just, but he ended up killing it. I don't think any of us have any kind of an emotional
attachment to the character of Antman. I'm like, well, is he going to screw this up or not? Because,
you know, I don't think anybody outside of maybe you Rob knows all that much about Antman.
And there were a lot of people asking the question of why didn't we just use the Hank pin character.
And if you know what happens in the way Hank is in the comics, Marvel didn't want to go down that
road. Yeah, that's the comic. Well, in the comics, Hank has to deal with not only alcoholism,
but domestic problems too. So, and Marvel was like, let's just go with this other
iteration that we have. You don't really know much about this version of Antman in the comics,
but I think you're getting a little bit more background to him. And now I think they kind of hint at
that with pin because you see his temper flare up a little bit every now and then. So I thought that was kind
of a nice little, we're not going to just, we're not going to go whole hog here, but we're
are going to off you glimpses of his darker side. And you know, speaking of this, keeping the
performance is moving, didn't find a bad performance in this thing. It was very happy to see
Coconut Creek High School alumni, Emmy Award winner Bobby Cannon Valley. Again, I want you to just
get that put on a t-shirt. I'm going to, I'm proud of the people that went to my house. You are a
card carry member of this guy's fan club. You may be the president. Him and Joe LaTriglio,
two big actors in Hollywood both graduating from my high school. I like it as Jerry Hall. But you
know what Doug was, you know, we were going to get. But, um, I put on my written video at the clubhouse
podcast.com. That's our website. My non-lating role shout out goes to Michael Payney. Michael
Payney, I've been a fan of him for many, many years. I met him that one time after screening
very after the end of watching very nice guy, but I love the role he did because every after
it's first couple scenes. Every time he came on, you know what you're going to get. And he put a smile
in my face every time he was on the screen in this film. I love every time he's giving a blow-blide
blow description. It's always done in his voice, but it's done by other actors. I was, that made,
he gets my shining star of the Naughty New Rolls. I think he really is. What I think of him though,
I always think of the shield. He was so great on that show. But something tells me he wasn't as
light-hearted and fun as you know. But he was great in this, you know. And I think his chemistry with Paul
Rudd was very, very. You could tell that there was a friendship there. Very versatile actor.
This guy's done everything from a million dollar baby to Eastbound and down to, uh,
he plays Caesar Shavis in that movie a lot. Really? Yeah. Well, they did the dock, the dock,
he was got a dip on Caesar Shavis. I mean, you should see the roll-ass. You should see the
hull and then to watch. Yeah. Oh, yeah. That was, he was incredible. He was great.
The only character and I love her to death, but I kind of felt Judy Greer was kind of wasted here.
I'd say that a little bit. I agree with you on that. I think you could have taken the family
storyline out of it and it wouldn't, you wouldn't have lost anything. Yeah, you would have.
Because Scott had no reason to do anything. His daughter was his motivation. And maybe you could
have kept the daughter, but having the whole dynamic with the x-wife just didn't do anything for the
baby mama or whatever she was, they would have had to find another reason to fight for his daughter.
But you could have had some just had the daughter exist. It now grants it. And I'm going to say it.
I said it in the theater. I'm going to say it because this isn't the trailer. It's not about
spoiling anything. I'm making a prediction. Disney is going to buy Thomas the tank engine. And
just saying it now. Thomas the what? Thomas the tank engine. Okay. So when that happens,
smart has been alive. Okay. But, you know, and I'll, but I will say this.
Corey stole, I think, I think DC missed out. Because that dude can play Luther. That dude could play
Luther. Yeah, but I think they wanted to go with somebody. It was a little bit more recognizable.
Well, that's a whole different discussion for a whole another time. Yeah, but he played a great
villain. He was great as the villain. There's, there's some nice little twists and turns that
that tie things into the MCU in both in the beginning, in the middle and at the end.
One sequence in specific that I'm not going to talk about. But I think we'll take a lot of people
by surprise. And of course, this is a Marvel movie. So don't leave during the credits. There are
two tag scenes and we're not going to talk about what they are. But there are two tag scenes.
One in the middle of the credits and one at the end. So stick around. Yes, please do.
Anything else that we really want to cover as far as this goes? Yeah, I want to bring in something.
Sure. You know, I really want to get into two things. One, the comedy, like with the train engine.
It's more than what you see in the trailer. Well, in the trailer, you get the scene of where he goes.
Did I just ruin that moment? Yeah, but I'm going to go make some tea. But when it
the train is a bigger star than that. Oh, the train scene is great. The comedy. I just kept
I saw you last so many times. It was even funny. The plot of the story was incredible.
Question to you. How many times did you look at watch? First time I looked at my watch, we were 45 minutes.
Yeah, that's a good thing. This is good. But yeah, I want to say 3D makes it in this.
I throw it to wrote that in your written review. Yeah,
www.theclothhousepodcast.com. Which is our website? Uh, I forgive me. It made it.
For you, yeah, but for me, I'm kind of good either way. Like inside out, I think the 3D made
made it more of an immersive experience. Here there were certain sections that it was kind of cool.
I thought it really, but I don't know that I would require it. You know what I mean?
That's, I kind of tend to agree with Don a little bit, especially when he shrinks.
Oh, yeah. You feel like you're part of this microscopic world. I mean, everything feels larger than
when the, you know, the shower scene. Yeah. The worst time. When he goes to the carpet, you know,
I was like, no, it was cool, visually. I just don't know that I would have, I wouldn't require it.
It's not required, but it does, it does punch it up a bit. I say if you're going to see this,
see it in 3D if possible. It makes it in this worth the extra. Oh, yeah. I mean, and I said,
in my written review at www.theclothhousepodcast.com. Which is our website?
If you want a pony up the cash, I'm not going to try to stop you. I would say pony it up, but
if you don't want a pony up the cash, you still should go see it. You know what I mean? I wouldn't say,
like, if the 3D screening showed us a soldout come back another day. But it was fun. I'm not going
to deny it. But then flying through the air and all that, it was incredible in the 3D. I thought
in the hands did so much. Everybody I've talked to since we saw this thing before. Now,
I said, it's, you have to see it in 3D. See it in 3D. It is worth it. To everybody I've
ever talked to on this thing. I did think it was kind of brilliant when I read on the,
on the trivia section about how it's filmed in 1.85 rather than 2.35. So it resembles his
smaller stature. Okay. Are we ready for the final analysis? Anything else we want to put in here?
I think we're good. Okay. The way we do the final analysis on this show,
we don't give you thumbs up thumbs down. We don't give you letter grades. We don't give you stars.
We don't give you a skill from 1 to 10. Our M, our audience, the empire is better than that.
The way we do this, we're going to ask two questions. Question number one,
is would you see this film again? If the answer is no, then we're done here. If the answer is yes,
how far would you be willing to go? Full price evening. Twilight show, Matt Nay, early morning,
Saturday, second run at the dollar theater. Would you run it from red box? Would you stream it on
Netflix? Would you wait for it on cable? Don, let's start with you. Would you see this film again?
Oh, that's a definite yes. How far are you willing to go? I've been doing this too much lately,
but they deserve it. When they deserve it, they get it. I'm going to give this full price 3D. Wow.
Yeah. Is that 3D? Could this be the first time Don's given it that?
Full price 3D. Full price 3D? I think so. Is it? Yeah. Full price 3D? Because I don't even think
you gave inside out full price 3D. That's what you did. I give a full price, but I didn't think it
would need 3D, but this one full price 3D. The 3D makes it. You can't get any bigger nets.
Yeah. Yeah. I see what you did there. Even unintentionally. Absolutely. That's how far you're
willing to go. Same as Don. It's an event picture. It's one of those things where you want to
go to an IMAX 3D screening of it. I would say yes, I would see this again. I don't care how you
have to do it. Just go. Yeah. You know, if you want to pony up the 3D, I'm not going to stop you,
but go see this movie. Now. The clarify. So you say full price. Full price. Absolutely. I still
think it's weird that this N's face too. I do too. I think if Avengers N's face won,
each of all Toronto should have ended face too. But it's still a good film. I still enjoyed it.
I would still recommend it. And it's going to really in entertain non fanboys and fanboys alike.
And I think that's what you go for. One in films like that. One thing I want to add is,
I don't have the geek cred like you guys. You're getting there. Yeah. But I didn't know much of
that man before this thing. And I probably say 80, 90 percent of the people who see this thing
aren't going to know much about AMAX me. And I was really surprised in it. It intertwined with
the Avengers very well. And I didn't get too lost. You know what I'm saying? The people who don't
know AM and is, it's still a great flick. Don't be intimidated by that. Don't be intimidated by that.
Yeah, exactly. And lastly, we got to think of a channel Susan Jacobs survey. Susan Jacobs and Disney
for inviting us to see this in the future. Thank you so much. You're so, they're wonderful people.
They really are. Thank you, guys. We're going to do the plugs. Yes, we are.
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