iTunes Exclusive Episode American Animals

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My name is Rob.
I'm the executive producer of the clubhouse podcast.
And I'm going to call that animal at least once in my life.
Probably not a good way, but you know, whatever.
But I'm not alone for this episode sitting in the co-host, your time is the newest member
of the cast and a man who isn't American.
He's Alex.
Welcome, sir.
And proud to be one.
That's right.
Rounding out the days is the official fact checker of this show and a man who likes to
make plans.
You may know him as fond don go, but his mom and even Don Ford, I'm going to call him Don Ford.
Welcome, sir.
I'm going to go to sleep tonight.
That's a plan.
Yeah.
I told you.
I'm going to wake up tomorrow.
I'm going to wake up tomorrow.
Whatever we do, one of these things, it is to review something and this is no exception.
Bart Layton writes in directs, we'll get to that in a minute.
It's called American Animals.
Of course, that's the whole thing.
Yes.
Again, we got to listen.
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They let us see movies and stuff early so that we can talk to you guys about them.
Even though this one couldn't be much earlier, it couldn't be much closer to release date.
Yeah.
I mean, we're recording this on release day.
We saw it the night before.
But kind of a cool concept.
Yeah.
This was not in a movie theater.
We actually screened this at the community beer company, a local brewery here in downtown
Dallas, right across from the arena.
We want to thank them.
Absolutely.
I appreciate them having us out.
It looked like a really cool set of.
It worked in, almost bumped into Rick Carlisle, head coach in the Dallas, Mavericks.
It was very strange.
It was very strange.
It was right next door.
Yeah.
And they gave us some pre beer.
They give them.
They say they take, not me.
I don't drink.
But they let you taste a little bit of beer.
Yeah.
It's a neat little place to go to.
It's a full-blown brewery that you can take tours of and it's really kind of a neat.
And so we all sat in there and they had these two big screens and we had popcorn and that
has been established.
Yes.
I had water and got some really neat swag, got coloring books and playing cards and coasters
and stuff.
And I like this such a great job when they play stuff and they were crayons involved.
Yeah.
Cran something that I could use.
This film starts with a title card that said this is not based on a true story.
And then based on Fades Away, this is a true story.
This is about four college kids in Kentucky in the early odds, 2003, 2004, because it takes
space over about 18 months.
Who decide they are going to rob the Transylvania University, this is a real place in Kentucky.
They have a rare book collection in their library, which would be original paintings by
Audubon.
There is a oversized book of paintings by Van Gogh, Darwin's first printing of the origin
of species is in this collection.
And they decide they are going to rob it and sell it on the black market.
Yeah.
It has the four-set Audubon, I mean there are only 200 copies made and these things are
like huge.
They are about like what, three-feet books or something like that?
No, they are big books.
They are big books.
Yeah.
It is estimated in real life from saying real life, this thing has worked millions of years.
Oh yeah.
So I am fascinated.
You have Evan Peters plays Warren Lipka.
He is kind of the brains.
Then you have Barry Keogin who plays Spencer Reinhardt.
He was the guy that came up with the concept.
He is an art major there.
They enlist Eric Borsuch, played by Jared Abramsson.
He actually goes to the University of Kentucky and he is a, he is more of, he is like the guy
that schemes.
He is going to help.
He is going to help.
He is going to help.
And then you have Chaz Allen played by Blake Jenner who is the driver.
This runs almost a solid two hours.
I don't know that I want to talk anymore about the plot because anything else is going
to give stuff away because I really don't want to spoil any of this because the trailer
tells you about what we just told you.
Because even the description on IMDB, I don't think is correct.
Interestingly enough, I did doing some of my own research before this.
It might be one of the shorter descriptions I have seen on IMDB.
Like the, the, the description doesn't fit the movie.
It just doesn't.
Because what I thought going out is like this is nothing, it's weird.
I will tell you that the first, this is one of those films, get through the first 20
minutes.
Yeah.
I mean, the look on Don's face if you could see in the studio, his look at his face is the
same as mine was watching this film after reading that description.
Yeah.
The first part of the description.
Yeah.
So I'm like, I don't get it.
I mean, let's just, we can read out.
I mean, it says, four young men mistake their lives for a movie and attempt one of the
most audacious heights in US history.
The last half I agree with.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Let's play a part in it.
But not.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They're not, they're not delusional.
They're just morons.
Yeah.
So, but here's the thing, like I said, get through the first 20 minutes of this because
the first act of this does move at a fairly slow pace.
Don would you agree with that?
Yeah.
As they're trying to set everything up, they probably could have trimmed some of that out.
But this film does something really, really neat.
It blurs the line between narrative and documentary.
Because as the story is being told, you're also cutting to the story being told by the
actual guys in an interview setting all separately.
All four separate.
Yeah.
So, they're telling the story, which is accompanied by the narrative.
The flashback is the actors, but it shows real time.
Right.
People saying, this is what happened, like I went to the store and it shows them going
to the store.
And one of the things I loved about it, kind of a crime stoppers, yeah, Spencer and Warren
in real life, they have the same event happened, but tell it, it happened way number A and then
Spencer says, no, this happened way number B. And the thing is the movie showed it twice.
Yeah.
How each person saw it.
Like when they're starting to talk about the plan, Spencer's like, yeah, we were at this
party and we were talking about it.
And it's the same conversation, but then the other ones like, no, we were actually in
the car driving around.
So it's the same conversation, the dialogue's the same, but they jump back and forth, but
who's doing the narrative?
Yeah.
So I want to pump the brakes real quick.
Yeah.
So this is not an interview with actor depictions.
No, these are the actual guys.
The actual idiots.
The actual four guys.
The actual four guys.
Okay.
There's more than that, too.
And I don't want to go.
Oh, no.
I just wanted to make sure that I understood that correctly.
There's a lot of people involved in this story that do get interviewed in the film and
that are not actors.
They are the real people that were represented.
Some were actors who were playing.
Yeah, some were.
Like family members.
Some were.
Some were.
Some were not the actual parents, but still.
But in some cases, they did both where you had an actor playing in the interview, but
you also had the real person.
Oh, yeah.
You have a neat.
Yeah.
There's that line between documentary and narrative because you also, as Don said in
his written review, currently located at www.theclubhousepodcast.com.
That's our website.
And he brings up a very excellent point here, where you actually get the chance to see
how good these guys play the guys are because by the mannerisms and their appearances, you
get to see that parallel without having to use in an extra on a DVD.
You're seeing it in the film.
Like Evan Peters plays Warn.
And Warn, he could tell us the idiot guy or whatever.
The bad dude who's the bad influence, and Peters plays that part perfectly when he's
acting the part during the robbery and stuff.
You can see the mistakes that when you watch the real Warn, you're like, this guy is kind
of an idiot or whatever.
This guy is kind of the bad seed and Peter's plays that so well during the movie that you
could see.
Hey, that's like a younger version of the real Warn.
So he's the instigator, you would say.
I would say yes.
Yeah, yeah.
Because that might not be much of a stretch for him.
He just says up front, dude, but people say I was the leader.
There was no leader, which means you were the leader.
Yeah.
That's what that mean.
But it won't be your jail sentence.
Well, this is spoiler free.
They meet some person, that's all I'm going to say.
And during one scene, Warn says, it was this hippie dude and all that stuff.
And then Spencer says, no, it was this guy in a suit, this old guy in a suit.
And it shows that same scene twice, once with that old guy in a suit, and once with the
hippie dude.
Depending on who's narrating at the time.
Yeah, yeah.
So it's kind of cool.
I really liked how they did that.
I mean, I also want to say there's a great cameo in this film by the great Udo Kier.
Oh, it's a cameo.
And if you don't know who Udo Kier is, go back to Ace Ventura pet detective.
White and yeah, he was dragging any in the late.
Yeah.
Okay, we can do that too.
But I was going somewhere like this.
Okay.
I know.
Stay with me.
If you remember an Ace Ventura pet detective when they go to a party.
Yeah.
And he's the guy.
So there's a name just loya or does he have a name?
Oh, I get it.
That was Udo Kier.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So who's I'm a huge fan of him.
And he has a very small role.
But I loved it.
I'm glad that he was in it.
But again, as it started, I was kind of like, man, this is for two hours.
But once this thing got up and got moving, it moves to the, I mean, there were moments
where Don and I were both just like physically on the edge of our seat during the robbery.
And they had the background noise or sand on track, which fit perfect with that kind
of build and the pump.
And even at the, the facility where we watched us at the, at the brewery, even the bartenders
were like, yeah, no one was at the bar.
They're all watching us.
No one would want to.
And as, as they're fumbling through all the planning and stuff, like Don, it's like
writes a note on it on a coaster.
He hands it to me.
And I'm like, oh, and it says I could plan this better than these guys because they do
kind of fumble through some of it.
I don't want to give away how it all works out.
But there's one scene where they planted in their eyes and it goes through perfectly
like these are over their pros.
You know, they're all just fast, boom, boom, boom, everything's sleeping around the
door.
And then we see what really happens.
It's like, oh, you idiots.
Well, it's like halfway through this dream sequence.
It just stops and one of those like, no, no, there's no way it's going to happen that
way.
I mean, it's just, it's really, really well done and to be it, to do this film like they
did it, I was incredibly impressed because I was a little skeptical going in.
I was looking forward to it.
But I was like, this thing's almost a full two hours.
And I didn't really know nothing about it.
I kind of saw trailer, but it kind of if I watch this, I really enjoyed this thing.
And it was being spoiler free.
I actually read the Vanity Fair article where they went to the people that year after.
And it really, this film, yeah, there's some Hollywood liberties and stuff, but basically,
this is kind of what really happened from all the accounts from all the different people.
It's pretty close to what happened in real life.
And in the last five minutes, when it's kind of the, what did we learn today?
Section of it is what I call it.
There's even some twists and turns in that that made me go, whoa, okay, this is kind of
a thing.
All right.
I can roll with this.
I mean, what they're up to at this day or whatever.
No, even before that, right before that, okay, where, and we'll talk about it on
the day.
Yeah.
Because I don't want to give anything away, but this is just a really, really good film.
And even though we have to see it the night before release, so sometimes can make, as someone
who critiques films, it makes you nervous because you're just like, you're, you're giving
this to me right before release.
This was not one of those cases.
This was an enjoyable film.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Do you think they might have been worried based on the jumping with the story that it might
miss?
I know that there had been another screening of it earlier, but it was one of those.
It was just for select people.
They wanted to get it.
It was more like focus groups.
Okay.
So this was more, I mean, I enjoyed this film.
I'm not afraid to say it's a lot of fun.
I really enjoyed it too.
And the thing about this film is I would like to see more promotion on it, just like another
friend we just recently reviewed is get the word out on this because I think people will
actually like this thing.
I mean, there are some violent scenes and during the robbery it does get a little edge
of the seat and kind of brutal, but this is kind of what happened to the light, like
the lady at the, at the, in the library, who was the caretaker.
Easy, easy.
As long as they, I mean, I'm not giving anything away just that there's somebody in the room
and, and how they treated her.
It's close to what, how they treated her in real life.
I mean, and they pull no punches on this.
I mean, it's, it's just a really cool way of storytelling in a van.
Like crazy story that I spent a lot of time going, this really happened.
Like this really happened.
And it's, it's just, it's, I'm going to use the word riveting because again, get through
that first 20 minutes because I kept, like, all right, let's get this thing moving.
Yeah.
But once they get everybody together and they decide that this is what's going to happen
and let's do this thing here.
We go.
And that was my only, no, I agree, both I saw was, I said about 10 minutes could have been
cut out of this.
Sure.
I mean, and that's only real grief I have.
The acting was great.
The storyline, but this will keep you on the edge of the seat, especially you kind of
by the end and during the robbery.
It is, don't get up.
I mean, you will be kind of, whoa, and let's point that out and I, and I want to point
this out because we've mentioned this on this show before in the, for the first time in
the show.
I can't remember how long Don never let the seat.
Don.
It's two hour movie.
Don did not leave.
I love points.
I didn't notice it.
I had to go.
You were so focused then.
No, I had to go get another beer.
I had two beers.
No, but you didn't like take a bathroom break.
No, I'm saying.
No, I don't know.
Like, he was in there the whole time.
I like.
Don didn't leave the room.
I almost want to call BS.
No.
I did actually leave the chair, but he didn't leave the room.
That's a record because I had a free beer coming in and I had to get another beer.
But that was the thing was, like, that shows you how good this movie is that Don didn't
want to leave the room.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, thank you.
And for those of you just joining us for the first time, I'm not lying when I say I
can't remember the last time that happened.
I literally cannot because it may never have anything else we can talk about forget the
final analysis.
I actually did.
Won't you.
Alex did have a question.
Yeah.
Okay.
So, you had mentioned pausing and thinking, wow, this actually happened.
Was it kind of like that moment in, and I'm going to throw a not great movie back at you?
Okay.
But you lived in South Florida.
So, you know where I may be going with this in painting gain where they literally have
to stop the movie in the middle and just put up the words, yes, this actually happened.
No, they don't ever do that.
But, no, but what I'm saying is, is is there that moment where you're like, I can't
believe this is actually real.
There's multiple moments like that where you're like, this, this, this, this happened.
You know, I mean, they're telling the story.
And most of it, there was a couple small liberties, but I'm going to say it's like the disguises
that did happen.
That really did happen.
Yeah.
I mean, there are a few minor liberties, but nothing major.
But I, I've enjoyed this thing.
Okay.
Let's get to the final analysis.
All right.
Has anybody seen Barry Kagan and Ty shared it in the same place at the same time, by the
way?
Maybe.
I have to write that down.
The way we do the final analysis on this show is we're not going to give you thumbs-up
thumbs-down letters, numbers, beaks, anything like that.
We're going to ask two questions.
Question number one is, would we see this film again?
If the answer's no, then we're done here.
But if the answer's yes, then what we're going to do is we are going to ask up to two,
the second question, which is how far are we willing to go to do so?
From the best of the best of the worst of the best, here's the order.
Full price of the theater, Twilight show, Matt and I show, early morning on a weekend.
You're leaving your house to get it from Red Box, Netflix streaming down to cable.
Don, would you see American animals again?
Definitely.
How far are you willing to go to?
Only because of the 10 minute thing, I'm going to give it the Twilight to the full price.
So you're right there on the edge and I'm willing to come in.
You know what?
10 minute thing.
For the second episode in a row, I'm going to agree with them.
I mean, it's, again, get to that first 20 minutes.
But once it goes, it goes and don't leave because you don't want to miss it.
Literally, like, Don turned his head and missed something and I had to explain it to him
later because he was, he had questions like, no, you literally missed that.
And there's only a couple of seconds.
Yeah.
But in this thing, it's not for everybody though.
Let's be honest.
There are some tough parts in this film.
But it's really easy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So would you say that the fair analogy for the story would be the roller coaster when
you're clicking to the top because you got a bill to get to that run?
And then once that break releases here, we, yeah.
We can even go upside down and do the boop, boop, boop, boop.
It is Bart Layton's American Animals.
For what it's whole thing?
Yes.
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