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Rob, Chad, and Don review Yorgos Lanthimos's The Favourite, a darkly comedic 18th-century period film about Queen Anne, her confidant Lady Sarah, and Abigail, a fallen noblewoman who disrupts their relationship. The hosts discuss the film's British farce style, $15 million budget despite its grand visual presentation, heavy sexualization, and strong cinematography by Robbie Ryan, with mixed reactions to its unconventional storytelling and abrupt ending.
About this episode
Key takeaways
- The film employs British farce style with Monty Python-like sensibilities, making it a specialized film for people who study cinema rather than mainstream audiences
- Lanthimos uses stylistic choices like fisheye camera work inconsistently, occasionally veering toward gimmickry
- The nighttime castle scenes using only candlelight represent historically accurate cinematography that stands out as exceptional
- The film is heavily sexualized throughout, particularly in depicting the rivalry between Sarah and Abigail for the Queen's affection
- The ending is abrupt and ambiguous, lacking clear resolution for all characters, with a black screen before credits roll
Q&A
What is The Favourite about?
It's set in 18th-century England during a war with France, following Queen Anne and her relationship with her confidant Lady Sarah and a newcomer named Abigail, who creates a rivalry between the two women.
What did the hosts praise about the film?
Strong performances from Olivia Coleman and Nicholas Holt, exceptional cinematography and historical accuracy in set design and lighting, and solid costume design despite the modest $15 million budget.
What were the main criticisms?
The film is nearly two hours and could have been cut by 15-20 minutes; it's overly sexualized for some viewers; the ending is abrupt and unclear; and the inconsistent use of fisheye lenses borders on gimmicky.
Would the hosts recommend seeing this film?
Rob would watch it on Netflix; Don barely rates it as a yes, saying he'd only watch if already on TV and too lazy to change the channel. It's not for mass audiences.
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Greetings, Empire Member and Orm Members. If you're hearing the sound of my voice, you are greatly appreciated because you are a member of the Empire, and it means you've checked out the Clubhouse Podcast live every Sunday night, 7 Eastern 4 Pacific on the Vocal Now Network, voklnow.com, go there or download the app, carry us with us wherever you go. Welcome, my name is Rob, I am the Executive Producer of the Clubhouse Podcast, and I like cake, I'm just saying, by the way this is a home drone, number 448, close to a milestone.
Sitting across the desk for me is my co-host, and a man that likes to have a laugh every once in a while, he is Chad, welcome sir, I do indeed sir, rounding out the dais is the official fact checker of this show, and a man who is his wife's favorite, you may know him as Fondango or IMMOO! His mom and even Don Ford, I'm a calm Don Ford, what's up sir? Favorite what?
My wife's favorite. Can't you just be her favorite and be done with it? I don't know.
Why do you have to classify yourself? Favorite go? Go contain yourself, don't put yourself in a pigeonhole sir, you can just be her favorite period, and that can be okay.
Okay, whatever we do, one of these things, it is to review something, this is no different. The director of the lobster and the killing of a sacred deer is back, he is Yorgos Lentimos, I think I nailed that, and it's called the favorite, for sure this whole madness. Yes sir, we got thank Jason, everybody at Sly Fox, we're the invite, Zemini, Zemini, Zemini, we love our vendors.
They let us see movies and stuff early so we can talk to you about them and stuff. That's right, that was a technical term, you heard me. Yeah.
Here's what you need to know, it's the 18th century, it's England, it might be London, you don't know? I mean I'm assuming it is because it deals with Queen Anne and that where she lived. I think so, yeah.
So Olivia Coleman who ironically plays QE2 on the crown, this is true, yes. This is Queen Anne here and we are in the middle of the war with France because the French, and so she, and this is based on actual events, I'm going to go ahead and say loosely based on actual events. So we're at the war with France and she has her top aid, Lady Sarah, played by the great Rachel vice, right on, there's no, I'm the congratulations, Rob, you are now the one millionth caller to use that particular joke, you think.
They are very, very close, she is, she is her confidant and this is the point where Queen Anne is dealing with her sickness, the sickness is really starting to settle in. So she's kind of working in Queen Anne's stead, although we're not sure Queen Anne knows the extent they're in, right. So a carriage shows up and inside said carriage is Abigail played by the great Emma Stone.
She is Lady Sarah's cousin and her family, she used to be a lady but her family has fallen from grace. So she comes to the castle to ask to be employed by her cousin, alright. Her cousin agrees, lets her scrub flourish and stuff, and one day when Queen Anne has a particular bout with Gout, I'm going to pull it and didn't know it but my feature show it because they're long fellows, I need this, you're welcome America, no, I need the failing one, I'm telling that joke since I was 12.
She goes into the woods and creates this concoction that helps Sue the burning of the Gout in her legs, which then starts to gain her favor with Lady Sarah. So then she decides she wants to be returned to her former glory and now we have a nice little attention triangle between Queen Anne, Lady Sarah and Abigail. This runs right at two hours.
The only way I can describe this film, and I say this in my written review currently located at www.theclubhousepodcast.com, that's our website. If dangerously A-zons are all about Eve, because Rachel Weiss compares it to all about Eve, was directed and written by a modern version of Monty Python, because this is simply put, this is British farce, it's the only way I can put it. So knowing that going in and I'm kind of holding on to Don because Don's got some very strong opinions here and I know because I've read his review.
This is not going to be for a mass audience. Because this is a film for people who study film, without being like, it's not Bergman. Thank God.
Yeah. You guys, it's a well-documented on the show, my feeling is not Bergman, but it's deaf, it's not an indie film because it's done on a very grandiose scale. I don't know exactly.
Don, would you mind pulling this up on maybe the pdf of what you can see if you can find the budget on this? Because it doesn't feel like an indie film at all, because it's very, very grand, grandly presented visually, beautiful, costuming, great locations. Would you kind of put this on the same thing?
What would you guess it was? 35 million. Minus 20 of that.
That was 15 million dollar budget. That's impressive. Yeah.
Would you put this on the same vein as like the death of Stalin maybe? I haven't seen this death of Stalin yet, but from what I know of it, you could death, that's definitely a good comparison. Don, did you see that?
What's what? The death of Stalin. Would you put this in the same vein as that?
Because you've seen it. I think it's an excellent question. I think it's an excellent question.
Yeah, what do you mean by say, well, it was, would you put this movie kind of in the same category? No. Kind of apples and orange.
Oh, fruit, fruit, but not apples. Right, but you put them in the same ballpark, basically. Well, one is more deals.
This is a very risk-game movie. Right, but I think it's a heart of it. The other one is more of a comedy.
This is just going nuts, so this is more of an evil trying to buy very adult film. Okay. Am I kidding?
There's definitely, but not your normal history film. This gets dark and dirty. Yeah.
Well, it brings up some historic points. Right. Yeah.
It's very over-sexualized, but it was England in the 18th century. Yeah. It couldn't have been the game.
The thing about Lanthimos and the way he shoots this, there are just random moments where he's shooting with a fisheye camera, which works in a couple of places, but it doesn't work every time he does it. Like there's a shot where Emma Stone's character is running down a hall and she's running from screen right to screen left, and he shoots it with that fisheye. So it looked kind of cool.
But yeah, there's a couple times when it was the borderline on Adnazium for me. I'm trying to wait. I'm trying to wait.
I'm trying to wait. Me too. I'm trying to wait.
Terrence Malik the thing a little bit, not that far. Well, I think so. I would still watch this before I watch Terrence Malik film again.
Oh, yeah. So what I, yeah. And Don and I, when we get to the Final Analysis, we're going to be a lot different.
Oh, boy. And Don, I am prepared after reading your review to do what your review says to do. So we're good there.
Yeah, okay. I enjoyed this film. It's a little long and I think Don you'll agree with me on that.
Yeah, it weighs itself down because there's a lot of layers to this story and I think he wanted to cover everything It didn't want to cut anything, right? I would have I could have cut 15 to 20 minutes out of it and still enjoyed it as much as I did But it definitely weighs itself down at a certain point and I'm gonna save my my last Evaluate Tory point because it's something that Don and I probably the only thing about this film that Don and I agree on Oh, okay, so Don I'm going to go ahead and throw to ball to you. Okay talk about this film All right, yes, this is kind of based on history and I kind of read the Wikipedia After the fact the Wikipedia I called the Wikipedia.
No, this is you can't buy this if you're one I hate Or world markets still my language or whatever that earthbound trading company Okay, if you can call Batista barista, he can call Wikipedia. Yeah, we're Wikipedia. Thank you Or the one China you name it, but Back to yeah, I know but I'm about to eat all right on this film I watched the trailer and I don't do that too often or watch the whole thing and if you do a lot of times It's like right before yeah, and this film it seemed more of a little Comedy and there were some comedy moments in this film there a couple, but I laughed out loud more than the ones Yeah, but it's a little comedy with the maybe 95% serious 5% comedy I thought in this film Okay, I would have waited differently, but okay, but maybe even 10.
I'll give it 10 okay turn up But this film Is like you said very over sexualized too much And in my thing is what there is the let's just I'm the minor spoiler hold on Yeah, you got to warn me when you're gonna do that because I got to go to a different page to do that yeah three two one I'd like to say that it deals with Queen Anne in the bisexuality is it true? Who knows I don't even read anything up. I think it's played I've actually seen this referred to as satire and it plays to the satire angle of it Yeah, but the relationship between Sarah and Abigail Trying to vibe for the Queen's love in sexuality was too much of the film It like we just recently saw a film about Traveling's music man And it talked about sexuality, but it did it with some hints here there a few scenes This one it's the sexuality in the bed the whole kit and caboodle I'm trying to buy to be your precious heart and your lover and all this other stuff I would say I've seen it too too much.
I think they have too much of that in there It didn't bother me so much because I've seen tons worse. Yeah, I've seen so well I thought it was too much of that But it's a big part in the rivalry I mean it does and so that I guess that's why for me It didn't bother me as much as it bothered you. I think it was too much of that Um, I did like how they tried to vine how they could be evolved the pot you have to watch this it can't get complicated.
Yes, yes Another thing I did not like about it like the ending. I'm like See that's that's what I wanted to talk about because I could we're like I could someone explain if you're if you're looking for Um, what am I looking for if you're looking for resolution You kind of get it, but you kind of don't depending on who the character is and we're we're being a couple You know critics and stuff. We're talking after like our good friend Cynthia Jordan friend of the show So we love greatly.
Yeah, so we're going back to her and I'm kind of Okay, so much fun to me and we're kind of I don't maybe it was this maybe it was that But it ended abruptly with the black screen. I'm like that's I wondered If there was some kind of special instructions with the print because How often do we go to a film and the lights don't come up until the credits are done You know, I mean yeah single so I was a way it's film project where we're in the show I was a projectionist in high school and when we would put our movies together There was a small role of silver tape And you would put this small role of silver tape on the edge of the film So when it ran through the projector if it was on one side of the film it queued the projector to bring the lights up Okay, if it was on the other side of the projector It was to turn off the aperture so the rest of the film could go through you didn't get the At the end, okay, it's all digital now it doesn't really matter But a lot of times projections would forget to do it and so the lights wouldn't come up to the projector stopped We go to black the lights were up I mean like I feel I feel like there were specific instructions to the projectionist to make sure that happened because this thing is going and All of a sudden black screen lights on and then credit star I'm like here comes Elton John singing and I'm like that's the engine Yeah, and I could try to figure out what they're trying to make with the points Especially with I'm gonna say is my nice little pet Um to be spoiler free, but it was just the ending yeah, yeah It was really just it was very hard weird this film was just best way to put to get in my written review is this film is weird I try I could see they're trying to buy and all that but there's a lot of weirdness with this film It's not anything like what the trailers trying to portray it as now. There's one thing about this film Which I'm gonna give one of the highest compliments.
I have ever again, and you do in your written reviews Which is at www dot the clubhouseballcast.com that's our website chatty you're ready for this You know how I'm a stickler on sets being historically correct, right? He is captain historical accuracy This one is probably my top two or one of historical Acreses in this film When there were night scenes and are walking down the halls It was just the candle lights and they filmed it as if you're walking down the halls during that time It's shot very well There's no yeah, like they have the you know lots of films. They have this castle at night and there's candles But you could tell they put a ton of lighting in But this one saying no, this is what it was like in these even in these castles with all the wealth There were candles everywhere and still it was darkest can be all around you and shout out to Robbie Ryan Your cinematographer on this.
Yeah, not no lights nothing nowhere during the night. I that was really I really liked how they kind of portrayed that of just the light of the candles in the castle That's why I was shocked when you said it was a $15 million budget. Yeah, I mean this it is shot gorgeously costume design Did rock solid a million of that was a million of that was probably the candles Buddy I'm your boy, but I I enjoyed this film But I can understand how this probably won't be enjoyed by a mass audience But I will say a couple of acting shout-outs Olivia Coleman's amazing in this.
Yeah, she crushes it. Yeah Especially as the madness begins to kind of take her over more so There's a moment where she just absolutely completely wigs out and More than once. Yeah, but there's one big scene which was it's brilliant When she does running down the hall.
Oh, yeah brilliant. Yeah, done Also, if I say so if I say the name Nicholas Holt. Does that mean anything to you?
Absolutely He plays a character named Harley in this who is a member of I think he's like he wants to be part of the elite. He has the money, but not the power and Sarah through the queen Really the queen through Sarah technically is like doubling the land tax to pay for the military to fight the war in France And so he's lobbying to get the queen to repeal the tax because it's breaking the back of the people that own the land He is great in this the man's guy. I mean, I've been a fan of his server since what was it?
Many would know him as beast from X-Men first class before and he was kind of almost like the Mr. Jennifer Lawrence for a while They were dating for a while, but you know That zombie Rome a romcom of oh was a hands-cold heart or something? No, it's I think it was called warm heart It was a play on that I can't remember exactly what it was, but he was really really had in that asked me I could have told you it's one of those But warm bodies is an amulet acting.
I could see Some nominations because I think this is one of those Oscar fufu films one of these Oscar bait films for cinematography four sets fours cost to me okay for acting It's they try to realm it towards that, but do you I honestly don't think that Emma Stone Emma she was good. She's good, but I she never quite commits to the axe And I Do I think she deserves the whole that this the statues next year? No, she's very good Yeah, she's good, but I think because this is one of those films gear towards appeasing the The the people who nominate people for certain industry Right.
Yeah, that I think they make it some nominations just because they're catering towards trying to be an Oscar bait film I hate to say it acting was good, but it's not their best roles I thought Coleman and Holt were you're choosing to dance and shout out to Horatio the fastest duck in the city Oh, yeah, that's actually listed in the credits. Yeah, so yeah, anything else chatted questions that you might have No, thank you pretty much covered it, but this was just Weird for me. It wasn't odd film It's very weird.
That's fun. It was fun to me It had a plot in like your Terence Malik film. I would watch this over Terence Malik film.
That's good news But that's not saying much. Oh, then let's get to the file analysis talk about the way we do the file analysis on the show We're not going to give you thumbs up thumbs down. Let it grades numbers anything like that Pieces of cake You'll understand when you see the film Chuck ducks.
Yeah, ducks There'll be up to two questions question number one is would we see this film again if the answers know then we're done here But if the answers yes, it turns into how would we see it again from the best of the best of the worst of the best here's out roles Full price to the theater down to twilight showing down to matinee down to early morning on a weekend down to second run at the dollar theater Down to actually leaving your house to get it for red box down to streaming on Netflix down to cable Don do you want to defer to me or do you want to go for yeah, I'll let you go first. Okay. Yeah With Rob.
Yes, sir. I would. Okay, inquiring minds want to know what level would you see this film at?
That's an excellent question I would say This would to me this would be I feel like this would be Netflix I don't I wouldn't downgrade it all the way to cable, but I would definitely Make it happen on Netflix good lord now don would you see this film again? On the yes, no spectrum. Yes However, I wanted to give this the big no, but because of the sets being one of the best I've ever seen and the acting was good We have a new ranking.
Yeah, the wait wait hold on let me do it. Yeah, yeah, because this is how you describe it This is Don's new ranking that barely lies above no, but barely lies right at yes This is how Don has rated this film I mean that if it's on TV and you're bored and you can't find the channel changer Too tired to get out of bed and that kind of thing I might watch it like that. I might actually have to get up and change it on the TV myself to get it off But if I can it's too lazy to get off the bed and change the channel I might watch it.
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