Home Show Halloween
Read Transcript
Greetings, Empire member and or members.
If you are hearing the sound of my voice, it means you've checked out the Clubhouse
podcast live every Sunday night, 7 Eastern for Pacific, part of the Vocal Now Network,
download the Vocal Now at VOKAL now or go to VocalNow.com, check out our show and so much more,
so many great shows on the Vocal Network and we're just proud to be one of them. It also means
you check out other stuff that we don't do in the vocal studios because it's time for another
show. My name is Rob, I am the Executive Producer of the Clubhouse podcast and if you think that
I'm going to know all about this next movie, you'd actually be right. Aha, see what I did there
because I can read Wikipedia. This is the 435th one of these for those of you playing around at that.
Tallying things, but I'm not alone joining me in the co-host chair is my co-host and a man that I
go to for all things horror films because it's right up his alley. He is Chad, welcome sir.
That is my wheelhouse sir. It is your wheelhouse. Also joining us is the official fact checker of
this show and a man who only plays the upper keys on a piano. You may know him as fun,
don't go, but his mom and even don't know how I'm going to come down for it. What's up sir?
Think it's speaking of play. Oh god. You had to do this. I don't know what he's going to do.
You know how I predicted the Super Bowl blackout, right? You did. I was there.
Well, I played the lottery and I'm going to win one of those two jackpots this weekend.
It's a big negative ghost rider. I don't know the piano though. I know the viola
but the piano had a little bit. I don't want to do cheer. It's a fire. You were there for me on that,
right? Because of the ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. Yeah, I got that. That's it. You're there
for me on the right. I got that. Yeah. That's why I almost spit. Can you hear yourself, O'Kana?
It's, uh, do sound a little echo here. No, I'm talking about from a, from a level. I mean,
you're a little soft there. Talk a little bit for me. Yes. There we go. Okay.
Whatever we do, one of these is to review something and this is no exception.
As the episode description states, Michael Myers is back after 40 years. I mean,
that's at least what David Gordon Green wants you to think. Because it's time to talk Halloween.
It's all right. This whole thing. Yeah, it's all got to think. Mary and your band's
lie, Fox. Zimini. Zimini. Zimini. Zimini. Zimini. We love our vendors so much. They take care of us.
They let us see movies in advance so we can talk to you guys about them and you can spend your
entertainment dollar wisely. It's hard to believe it's been 40 years since Michael Myers first appeared
on a movie screen and not you have a, not that Michael Myers. But this is the horror icon.
How many films have there been now total? Oh, this would be counting the reboots and everything.
This would be 11. But not according to David Gordon Green. No, because
this is modeled as a direct sequel to the first film. Kind of like superman returns was
directly after two. This is directly after the 1978 John Carpenter classic. Because season of the
witch. And anyway, yeah, God bless your Rob Zombie for trying it. But his wasn't that bad though,
was it? The first one was good. I don't want the second one up. Second was hot. Yeah. I
don't like the first one. That was really good. So this is 40 years after the original Maurice
Road played by the great Jamie Lee Curtis. Kind of, you know, I mean, this, it wouldn't mess
anybody up. What happens in that right? So she's kind of living on her own. She's lost,
she lost her daughter when she was younger because she's crazy. And now she has a granddaughter
and they're kind of estranged. Michael Myers has been in a mental institute this entire time.
A couple of kids go to interview him for an online show that they have. A couple of podcasters
go right. That kind of goes over like a fart in church. And then they decide they're going to
move Michael to a different facility because horror movie rules and more, quote unquote, secure
facility that they're moving them to serial killer and a bus. I think we all know how that goes.
And so he decides it's time to take his revenge once and for all, at least for now,
as he takes on the entire Strode family. Right. Judy Greer plays her daughter,
right? Which we, that was announced fairly early on. Yes, it was. Andy Matichack plays her grand
daughter. You have two different actors playing the shape because nod to the original.
So Nick Castle and James Jude Courtney will patent one of what I feel is one of the most
underrated actors of our time. You know, I'm a huge fan of this guy. But beyond that, not a lot
of huge names. No, no, it's, it's, it's got that indie feel to it. And co-written by Danny McBride.
Yes, that Danny McBride was a huge fan. And I'm told he doesn't, does he have a cameo in this?
I didn't see him. Okay. Somebody had told me he did. Uh,
interesting as we talk about behind the scenes before we get into this review,
the original plan was to film two films back to back. Right. But they decided not to because they
were going to air on the side of caution. And this was going to get released first. And if it
did well enough, then they're going to release, they're going to do the second one. Uh-huh.
That being said, I'm, I'm stalling for time because I forgot to click something. 82%
currently on Rotten Tomatoes. Uh-huh. Mm-hmm. Let's just start there. Too low, too high about right.
I think it's about right. Don? For a horror fan, too low. Too low. Really? Yeah.
Interesting. Yeah. Well, then let's get into it. Why too low?
This film, what I liked about it is it said to the other nine films, including, and I love Rob
Zombie. And I liked his remake. But how he walked basically said forget all that trash in between.
This film is part two. The way it should have been. Uh-huh.
Season being part three. That's just like the alien resurrection, the mean when it comes to
this series. Well, because it has nothing to do with the rest of the series. Now Jamie Lee Curtis has
said that H2O, H20, she does hold that one pretty close. Right. She thought that was good.
Um, to get her back for this one, you know, especially 40 years later,
that, to me, that said, okay, there's got to be something to this because Jamie Lee Curtis
doesn't want to be known for hurting for money. Right. Plus Bloomhouse had a lot to do with this, too.
Uh-huh. It was like reboot, redone. And finally, I mean, it had to get a lot to get done when
I was reading up on the production of this. Mm-hmm. But this film, what I really liked about it,
is how it had that feel of a 70s movie in some scene. Yeah, the look was new.
But still had a lot of that kind of style of the 70s. And Chad said the same thing in his
written review, currently located at www.theclubhousepodcast.com. Yeah, that's our website.
Where it's, let me, let me just say what he said. And I'm going to let you continue because it kind
of piggybacks up what you're saying. He's, if I, if I remember correctly, it had the classic look,
but still felt like there's a fresh coat of paint on it. Uh-huh. So that would you, is that what you
saw in a way? In a way, yeah. Okay. But this film compared to some of the other stuff, like part four
and all that, it wasn't for the return of my mind. Yes, going, no, no, it was going back to the well.
Okay. Okay. But this film paid homage to a lot of the original stuff. And what I mean by that is
you got the knife. The knife was a character again, back to the old stuff. And you said that in
your written review, currently located at www.theclubhousepodcast.com. That's our website.
And there was the scene where I think they used for the shape with the mask on was the,
the new actor, but then, um, for the, like, the scene in the, who do you think played Michael
in the scene at the sanitarium, or the facility in the chat? Was that, that was not, that wasn't
Nick Castle. I know the, the primary scene where Nick Castle was featured. Okay. Cause I was
giving him, and it's shown in the trailer. And I thought maybe that was the scene with Castle
to have him there. Cause it showed him really aged. It showed, you didn't see his front of a
face. You saw the side of a face. And you saw the beard. You saw the gray hair. They made a
point of that that this guy's about 60 now. Um, but how where the mask was put on at that one scene.
And the way they did it did it perfectly. Like, now we're back. Then you see him with the knife.
This is the Michael we knew from the first. And they did it right of, yes, there's brutality.
And there's some brutal scenes. You don't, don't show this at the church overnight for the kids.
Okay. Uh, let's cancel that order for the lock-in, please. Yeah, exactly. Um, but it just had
that feel of this is paying homage to the original. This is what the part two should have been.
Nothing else in between. They did it right on style with paying a lot of homage to the
originals, even the little closet scene with the door closed. They put that in trailer if I'm not
mistaken. Yeah. And of course, it just makes you jump. Yeah. Just like that. That was in the first.
Here's the part here with the closet being, you know, up in the air and against the walls. I'm
going to say they did everything right in my opinion. Now, as you said, it still makes you jump,
right? Yeah. Yeah. And no, it doesn't. You know why? Because I'm seeing it. No, no, no,
cover. Exactly. Hey, I own it. But the, the one part that I wanted to bring is it brought
the original cast back that was still alive. Now, Donald Pleasants was alive. God rest his soul. He
probably would have been in this. They would have made a point to put him in this. But it had the
original cop who shot him six times at the end of the first part. It had Curtis. It even had Michael
come back with castle. So I think this is what the sequel should have been. And everybody else
said stuff in between. Probably a 13. Take a look. Now, let me ask you this and we'll go to chat on this.
Yeah. Having this be multi-generational. Did that add subtract or break even?
It made sense. And, and, and I'm going to, maybe I'm going to take an unpopular stance here.
I like the original Halloween too. Okay. I really did. Because it took place literally minutes
after the first one. And I really thought that was going to be the jump off point for this one.
But I understand why they didn't do it for certain obvious reasons. I don't mind that they
retconned out anything from three forward. But it made, to me, it added a little bit more
personal tension to the mix by making it. He's not just coming after Laurie. He's coming after
everything. So they stopped numbering after five, correct? Let me check.
This is the cursive. I want to say the return of Michael Myers, the recursive Michael Myers.
Halloween four was the return of Michael Myers because three was season of the witch.
There was just Halloween five. It was just called Halloween five in 89.
And so then there was the curse of Michael Myers in 95 with Paul Rudd of Dear Lord.
Then was, then, is that where we got to, we didn't get to H2O after.
Because 89 was five. Yeah. H2O, H20 would have been 98 because that was 20 years.
And then resurrection. And then resurrection. And then the two.
So five was the last one with a number. Okay. And that was Donald Pleises was in that 89 with
Danielle Harris. Yeah. And apparently she lobbied really hard to be included herself.
Still weird to see Tyler main's name. He was a good, he was a good Michael. But I've heard that.
They just kind of, they really went off the cliff with that storyline. And they kind of took a
similar path with the later films because they just made it all supernatural. I'm like,
just make him an unstoppable force of nature, make him basically like a great wide shark that walks.
That's what I've always dug about mine. But do you agree with Don that it had everything it needed?
It did. It really did. It really delivers. I mean, it's, and I know that for some people,
it's going to be a hard sell because they like the series as a whole. Whereas I'm like, okay,
this bitch. I don't know that I like, I know anybody that likes this. He says some people did.
I mean, some people are really devoted to that. I know every, you know,
for every man's trash, there's another man's treasure. But I will say this that Courtney
does a good job as Michael or slash the shape. He had that kind of slow walk when he had the intent,
but that cat like movement also, which was the same movement, same body style, same walking style,
as in the original. So I got to give it to him on doing this one here.
Now again, I read the synopsis of the film, so I could at least talk fairly intelligently about it,
because you guys know I have a policy other buy code. The way this ends, of course, we know a second
film has been written and given the projections of what this should do at the box office this weekend,
shouldn't be a problem. But if they didn't do another one, would it still be okay?
Yeah, I think so. So it wasn't one of those, we're going to leave this open for a sequel.
There is a complete story here. Yes, kind of. To me, to me, it felt complete, but there was just
enough open-endedness to it to where they could nudge the door open a little bit, but I almost
think that might be kind of betraying the trust that they regained with the audience that I think
they're going to get, because I was like literally a whole new generation of fans. And I was like,
thank you for that. You know, thank you, David Gordon Green for caring enough to do a decent film.
And it had the soundtrack, which made it scarier, because I remember seeing the documentary on the
first one, the original, and it showed scenes without that little background. It shows him, it shows him
just walking, and it's like, okay, that's he hop, but he had the music to another to that same scene,
and it was in the same, just in that style, this film also, doing that where the scenes,
certain scenes, made it with that little music, that iconic, and it wasn't just always the ding-deep,
they had different versions of that to the styles, but there's another distinct theme of when he
is stalking somebody. The theme that you're talking about that everybody immediately recognizes
is iconic, but there is that done, that's his jaw's theme. If anything, that's where like,
no, no, no. And I want to say it's the shape stalks again or something. I can't think of
the name of the song cue. Speaking of which, speaking of which, I noticed during the
in-credits of this thing, and I'm assuming it was whenever he gets his mask back, it's called
open trunks, opens trunk, or something like that, composed by one Tito LaRiva.
Really? Yes. Shout out to our boy Tito. We can claim that. We can claim that. We've met him.
So I got on the phone with his daughter, our beloved Finney, and said,
you know, I performed the wedding up, so we're like best friends.
I'm like, you've got some explaining to do, and she goes, what are you talking about? And I
told her, she goes, he didn't tell me that. So I'm like, yeah, you've got the first fan of the
Tito, right? Very big fan. I do want to add the acting. Curtis is back in her role.
Wow. Maccabitch, Greer, do fine. Again, I talk about that.
Maccabitch is not in this film? Yeah. Courtney does great in a safe style movement.
Now, there's one person I want to give a shout out to. Okay. And he's a newcomer.
His name is Jabrail Nantambu. He plays Julian.
Who plays Julian? The little kid who's getting babysat. Okay.
He does ask me no. If you babysit in a horror movie,
that's you. But he could not. He plays a kid being babysat. But his role was funny. He added the
new version in, I think that's where Bride's contribution to the script. Yeah, exactly.
He became the outfit. This is only a second film, but he's a young and but yeah, I thought he
was the part that I'm the new generation now. But we're still paying a lot of homage to the original.
He was sassy, but not annoyingly sassy. He hasn't good lines. Yeah. So anything else before we
get to the filing analysis? No. All right. The way we do the filing analysis on this show,
we're not going to give you thumbs up, thumbs down, letter names, letter grades, numbers,
anything like that? Because as we know, I have a policy. I'll invite you.
I'm going to ask these gentlemen up to two questions. Question number one is, would they
see this film again? If the answer is no, then we're done here. But if the answer is yes,
the follow-up question I'm going to ask them is how far they'd be willing to go to see it?
From the best of the best of the worst of the best, here's how it goes. Full price at the theater,
down to a twilight showing, down to a matinee showing, down to first run in a week,
or early morning on a weekend, down to second run at the Dolver theater, down to actually leaving
their house to get it from Red Box, down to streaming on Netflix, down to seeing it on cable,
Don, we will start with you. Would you see Halloween again? Yes. How far you willing to go?
This is going to be a little different. For a horror film, fanatic coveted.
This pays the homage. I will be happy. If you're loved the Halloween, you love the Friday
13th. This, you got to see it without a doubt. Do you have anything to adjust?
Because you said this is going to be different? Yeah, because this goes out to the horror people
only. Okay, everybody else, I don't know. All right, not only would it have been one way to say it,
but for everybody else, if it's not your genre, forget it, but for your horror film, coveted.
All right, Chad, would you see Halloween again? Heck, yeah. How far you willing to go to do it?
I would love to go see this in a packed theater because that place was to the rafters and everybody
was feeling it. But that's not answering the question. So I'd go full bore. It was great.
It was a really fun experience. The thing I loved seeing this in the crowd really makes it
than watching it at home during the day when it's sunny in your living room and on a DVD by yourself.
There are some of these scenes where people are like, don't go in there. Stop, no, yeah, and we've got to do,
yeah, people do that. Yeah. And Don, I don't know if this is just strictly for horror fans because
yes, this is, it's going to play to that genre. Obviously. Yeah. But I think it was a great film.
Oh, yeah, I really think it was very well written. It was very well shot. It just oozed. You would
think that Carpenter probably got behind the camera on a couple of occasions. It really did feel like
a, but this is the way it should have been. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah.
I will take your word for it because this is me. I am afraid of it. I'm scared. Yes, you are.
I'm scared to say it. You're scared of skiing. You're scared to see it. It is David Gordon green.
Apparently, who has brought back to life Halloween. Bro, this whole thing. Yeah, it's got big
Mary and everybody in Slyfox. Zee, Zee, Zee, Zee, Zee, Zee, Zee, Zee, Zee, Zee, Zee, Zee. We love our vendors
so much. They give us the access to films before we get to see them so that we get to talk to you
guys about them and you can make the best decisions for your entertainment dollar. That being said,
let's do the plugs. Visit our website, the aforementioned www.theclubhousepodcast.com.
Find out everything you need to know and some stuff you don't. Follow us on social media,
Twitter is at ClubhouseShow. Everything else is the Clubhouse podcast. All three words in that order
or you will wind up somewhere else. If you follow me on social media, if you so choose to do so,
everything is yes to that Rob Irvin, ERV, INS, I spell it. I'm Matt Chad, NPG69. And on Twitter,
I'm Igboonu, IGBUN, you and you, you and also email me on theclubhousepodcast.com.
Email Don for information on how we can come do a live show for you. We love doing live remote
shows and hanging out with the Empire. You can email me questions, comments, concerns,
somebody to go pound sand. I am Rob at theclubhousepodcast.com. I'm Chad at theclubhousepodcast.com.
Charlotte Parker is on Pinterest because we're morally obligated to say that. Our normal live show
every Sunday night, 7 Eastern 4 Pacific, your one-stop shop for all things pop culture,
on the Vocal Now Network. Go to VocalNow, V-O-K-A-L now dot com. Find out a lot of great shows with
some, some names you know. And they, and then they put us on there. I don't know if I think we
bring the average now, but that's just me. Also, make sure you download the Vocal Now apps
you have access to everything you need. So until next time, for Chad, for Don and the Empire,
I'm Rob at Clubhouse as close. I mean, do I have to spell out how well you worked Britney
Palmer into this seriously?