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January 9, 2019 Season 9, Episode 29

Rob reviews Drew Goddard's Bad Times at the El Royale, a 2-hour-20-minute thriller set in the late 1960s at a hotel straddling the Nevada-California border. Featuring Chris Hemsworth,Deckard Johnson, John Hamm, Jeff Bridges, Nick Offerman, and Lewis Pullman, the film employs time-jumping narrative structure reminiscent of Tarantino, with every character hiding secrets. Rob praises the cast performances and breakneck pacing, calling it worth full price at the theater.

About this episode

Key takeaways

  • The film employs extensive time jumping and reveals information only when the director chooses, requiring full attention throughout
  • Chris Hemsworth delivers particularly strong, frightening work that arrives midway through act two despite being the most recognizable cast member
  • The third act spans 25 minutes and is considered essential viewing by the reviewer
  • A director's cut exists that may clarify certain red herrings and character motivations left unclear in the theatrical cut
  • The film is structured by room number chapters and uses the California-Nevada border divide as a meaningful plot element

Q&A

Who directed and wrote Bad Times at the El Royale?

Drew Goddard, who previously worked on Lost, The Cabin in the Woods, and The Martian

When does this film take place?

The late 1960s, possibly early 1970s, with an opening scene set 10 years earlier

How long is the runtime?

2 hours and 20 minutes, though it does not feel that long according to the reviewer

What narrative structure does the film use?

Time-jumping narrative broken down by room numbers, similar to Tarantino's style but not an imitation

Read Transcript

Greetings, Empire member and Orn members. If you're hearing the sound of my voice, it is very much appreciated. Means you check out the clubhouse podcast live every Sunday night 70s from for Pacific on the vocal now network V.O.K.A.L now dot com also download the vocal now app and you can hear us and see us now when we do our normally weekly shows You're a one-stop shopper all things pop culture But it also means that you tend to check us out maybe on your favorite podcast app because it's time for another whole show walk Number 432 we're getting real close to our home shows catching up to the number of weekly episodes that we've done we're almost there My name is Rob by the executive producer of the clubhouse podcast and I've done the road trip where I stop over and say that I have to hotel sometimes it happens So we do Joining me in the co-host share for this episode is the newest member of the cast and a man that is at least once in his life Had a royale with cheese.

He is Alex welcome sir. It's been more than a few times, but I will say it's good that we're getting visual now with the Regular shows because I'm only slightly more sexy than Chris M's worth in this movie. Yeah, I mean Something about beauty in the in the beholder or something like that.

Yeah, and I only got one eye. So I got it Whatever we do one of these it is to Review something and this is no exception Drew Goddard He's been around a little bit worked a little bit on lost There's a little bit on the cabin and the woods worked a little bit on the Martian He's a writer director producer all that good stuff He directs a brand new movie that he also wrote called bad times at the L Royale and Again, we also like to think our vendors especially allied in a great and marketing who let us in for this one Josh and everybody did such a great job They let us see films ahead of time so we can talk to you guys about them We already did a little divide and conquer that night. I saw this one by myself So Alex is just kind of here to help me make sure that my thoughts get across properly.

Here's what you need to know The L Royale is a hotel that straddles the border of Nevada and California and if that sounds familiar There is actually one that was like that that would used to be owned by Sonatra so This takes place in the late 60s The very late 60s may be early 70s, but not by much After a time when the L Royale was not the hotbed that it once was So we're on the down slope very much so okay a Group of strangers end up staying the night there and things go horribly wrong Because if it went right we wouldn't have a movie so let me run down this task for you Chris Hemsworth decoded Johnson John Ham Jeff Bridges Nick Offerman Lewis Pullman that is the son of Bill He is the The person that works there like he does he's the bell hop that does he's the bell hop to counter guy The bartender everything and I will say this. I didn't even recognize him in the trailers Who Pullman? Yeah, I've seen him in a few other things but friend of the show Jim Braille was my plus one for this He thought the entire time that it was Tom Holland Really a lot like him.

Okay, there were moments where you like it and the second I'll wait a minute It's not him, but man it looks a lot like him A lot of people that I've talked to Have said this the trailer just looks really confusing. It's supposed to because this is one of those films that we refer to on this show I'm sure other people do but we do as a minefield Mm-hmm to discuss because there's a lot going on here That if you go too deeply there are spoilers that you will just set off This runs two hours and 20 minutes But doesn't feel like to not at all it blows by like there was a moment I leaned over to Braille and I said dude we're halfway done and he was like I'm sorry. What?

This is told at a breakneck pace, but it works. There's a lot of time jumping in here. This is very much and I think Braille said it best.

This is a love letter to Quentin Tarantino You did share that one with me and that this is very 90s Tarantino There's a lot of time line jumping going on so you're seeing things from different angles But only when Goddard wants to wants to reveal it to you Every character in this is not what they seem So this is one of those you can't just halfway pay attention. You need to lock yourself in for two hours and Change and I will say that one of the things that has me most excited about this is the last movie that kind of looked like this That Drew Goddard did that is one of my favorite underrated movies, which is the cabin in the woods, where Chris Hemsworth is his end is just Catched spoiler catches you by surprise And this one does the same thing. There's a lot going on here.

Okay The cast here is incredibly strong This is some of the best work I've seen Hemsworth do When I say he's scary good in this I mean that literally There are moments in this film that he frightened me And I don't we can go into it off air, but I really don't want to go into why because it could be a bit of a spoiler Which means I almost think I don't want to hear it. I mean he's not yet his I'm surprised that he's center of the poster Because his involvement doesn't come until You know midway through act two. Oh, wow, so that's much later There's a couple of people in here that I was kind of like I'm not sure I'd put their name on this Well, there's also the aspect of Chris Hemsworth is your most recognizable star in the movie John Hamm I would argue that Hemsworth is more recognizable thanks to Marvel Madman Yeah, but that's been on for how it could be your next Batman.

I'm just saying it could be Jeff Bridges I would put Jeff Bridges ahead of John Hamm as well. I mean this This movie works on every level the the third act of this film takes 25 minutes And it's worth every frame. Oh, wow If there's a downside to this and this is gonna sound really weird But I mentioned this in my written review currently located at www dot the clubhousepodcast.com.

That's our website There's a director's cut out of here that's longer and I want to see it ooh because There are certain things in this film and this this might be a minor spoiler So I'm gonna put it out there in There are certain things in this film that are red herrings That I don't think were intended to be as if that was a genuine direction as if there's certain things that are focused on That you know are supposed to tie to something else and don't And again, we can go over this off air well what I was going to say is in a in a way is it kind of like how unusual suspects the Oh my god, I'm drawn a blank on Other spoiler for an older movie that Kevin Spacey want to the Kaiser Soze Now where where he used one person in each scene when they was doing the flashback so it's not like that. Okay Mm-hmm But there's and and Braggel and I talked about this too. I was like yeah, that was kind of weird and I would have liked to know There's there's a couple of characters whose motivations I would have liked to have known more about and I guarantee it they're in there somewhere But they wound up in the cutting room floor So I'm hoping that there's a director's cut of this that will get released at some point But that's really my only complaint it didn't take me out of the film I mean every performance in this is rock solid You know, it's really interesting when you see a movie like this they Doesn't have much behind it with a fan base like say a Marvel would start going back to that But the fact that every trailer kind of looked similar for the most part So you were only getting such a small narrow view because and I love when they do that if you're given any more It's going to ruin things and that's the thing about this film go into it as cold as you possibly can Because it's the only way that you're going to be able to get to to be able to enjoy it in my personal opinion There's if you don't go into this film cold You're gonna wind up disappointed because you're like oh, I wish I hadn't known that Because there's a lot of layers to this thing and there's a lot going on And I cannot overstate my excitement to see it eventually and Chad actually asked me if it was he said I reminded him of four rooms And I said I can see that But number one, it's all one director Yeah, and may he does break the chapters down by room number Oh really?

Yes, okay, so he definitely does the Tarantino thing there Yeah, and so you really have to pay attention for when people check into their rooms Because that way you know who's being dealt with at a certain point clever, but it's really well done The The dichotomy between the California side and the Nevada side is portrays itself well It's not just a passing thing. There's actually certain things that happen on either side of the border That pertain and how you can do certain things on some side you can't do on the other side and It's really like to mention in the in the trailer with gambling which you can't do really because I want to go into it, but there's there's something gambling does play a role in it. Okay, then we'll But I mean this movie is so good so good And it's it's it's and I think Braggel said it best.

It's a love letter It's not an homage. He doesn't try to be Tarantino, but you see very Tarantino-esque things in it Now I you did say one thing to me that I wanted to make sure we got on this, like okay You did mention that Hemsworth may be getting a nod for this. I wouldn't be shocked Okay, if there's to be especially given when it's being released in the middle of October We're prime award season and he's so freaking good in this Where I mean he he brings the darkness up a couple of notches once he arrives in the film for real Do you think it's just latent from all his positivity as Thor everybody's favorite dummy?

No, I think he gets this character Maybe more than he should I mean this I'm telling you there were moments where I was like I don't know if I want to get anywhere near this guy like he's that creepy in this And it's And again, I can't really talk too much about it because it you need to see it in the context of the film And I feel like I know where our final is gonna Well just just remember that this takes place in the late 60s And that's all I'm willing to maybe the early 70s But that Just understand when I say that It'll help frame it a little bit for you Because it's it the opening scene takes place 10 years earlier And then there's a jump and then the real story starts So you have the setup and then the following because it comes back later everything everything comes back on itself By the time the credits roll except for like I said there's a couple of red herrings that I don't think we're meant to be red herrings It's just the way the film got cut. That's the way it wound up I would be interested to see maybe with a director commentary or with some deleted scenes that there have to be Like I would watch a three-hour cut of this film That says a lot I would because I think it would flush a couple of things out Maybe 245 To flesh out a couple of things that were referred to but never followed up on and one thing that was just completely left hanging Uh, and I mean think this thing was focused on in two different places and there was no payoff that I could find It was very strange very strange Do you feel like that may have opened it up for a partner project or I will neither confirm nor deny that because in order for me to answer that it would probably it would possibly reveal too much correct Okay, I will neither confirm nor deny so I think I've got enough that we can get to the file analysis now absolutely where we do the file analysis on the show We're not going to give you thumbs up thumbs down Numbers letter grades hotel room keys anything like that It's gonna be two questions question number one is would I see this film again if the answers know we're done here But the answer is yes Then we go to how far I'd be willing to go to see it From the best of the best of the worst of the best here's how it rolls full price at the theater down to a twilight showing down to a matinee showing down to an early morning showing on the weekend Down to second run at the mood at these dollar theater down to me actually leaving in to get it from red box down the streaming it on that flex down to watching it on cable Now Rob yes, or we typically just go through the two questions, but let's just skip ahead because they've been listening for 20 years Okay, would you see this again? Yes All right, how much are you shelling out?

coveted this deserves well for Don it's the coveted. I don't refer to it that way fair enough This is totally worth paying full price for Does number one you're going to get banged for your buck then I then I have an auxiliary question Okay, if they had a Dolby or an iMacs or something would that be would the movie be elevated by that or the extra It's not it's not designed to be that way Okay, just go see it. I don't I don't even think they're going to release it in those formats Oh, I don't think they are, but I'm thinking more along the lines of if it were available in a more limited Exclusive it release.

I think it would be interesting to see it in iMacs Because of the way it shots shot gorgeously. Oh good. So Drew got our directs bad times at the L Royale and we want to thank all I didn't agree to mark getting We love our vendors.

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I'm rob clubhouse is closed Britney Palmer Really could use her in this in anything because there's still a lot of different ways you could have gone with her in this

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