Home Show A Private War

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Now that we've established that, let's get into it.
Whenever we do one of these, it is to review something and this is no exception.
This is going to be an interesting thing because the film we're going to talk about in this
particular home show number 441 for those of you playing the home game.
This feature something that I don't know that has ever happened.
The story that we're going to talk about has had both a narrative and a documentary done,
which is not, that's not unusual.
The unusual thing is the films are being released in back-to-back weeks.
That is odd.
The documentary which I have not yet seen is going to be called Under the Wire, but the
narrative which I have seen is called a private war.
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There is a connection to both sides of this show in this film.
Because we handle pop culture, so you've got the film part of it.
We also handle sports.
We also handle sports entertainment.
One of the producers on this film, gentlemen, is one Marissa McMahon.
Really Shane's wife is a producer on this film and he and the boys are all in the thank
yous in the end credits.
Wow.
She needs to be very, very proud.
Does she need to be or should be?
If she's not, she should be.
There you go.
This is the true story because again there's a documentary coming out.
Of Marie Colvin and if that name doesn't mean much to you, don't go do research.
She is a work correspondent who has been handling conflicts around the world since 1986.
She is one of the gutsyest humans when it comes to the press in the history of ever.
She is able to get herself into places that she's not supposed to be to tell stories
that maybe aren't supposed to be told to the free world.
So she's one of the early vice reporters.
You could say that.
The film opens as she takes an assignment in Sri Lanka.
Oh, it starts there.
And in Sri Lanka, she is the victim of a grenade blast that takes her left eye.
She takes the vision and she decides she's going to wear a patch and that's kind of what
she was recognized for.
A lot of the pictures that are seen in this film are with her at that point.
The story goes, it runs about a 12 years time spam.
It's a long gap.
She does a lot.
Rosemind Pike plays her.
Fantastic.
Who would end up becoming her photographer for a majority of the latter part of her career
and most of this film is Paul Conroy, played by Jamie Dornin.
Some of you know him as Christian Gray.
You also have the great Stanley Tucci in this who's not in it a lot, but his character
is very important.
You put Stanley Tucci in anything.
You already have my attention.
I feel like that should start to be the Stanley Tucci.
He's not in it a lot, but he's important.
He's so great.
Andy crushes it.
And it's not like he's Stanley Tucci.
It's not like he tries to play a character.
He's just Stanley Tucci.
And that's great enough.
I'm good with it.
I said at the top of this, if you don't know who she is, don't do any research.
And this is very important because I didn't go in.
I knew she was a war correspondent.
I knew she was fairly important because if I'm getting two movies in two weeks about her,
by not doing my research, this film had me on the edge of my seat for all hour and
50 minutes.
It says an hour 46, but that doesn't include the credits at the end.
There is an all new original song from Annie Lennox in this.
What was your watch cage?
47 minutes?
That's up there.
Because this thing goes, I mean, oh, for where it starts.
And it's kind of funny when you're watching, when I'm watching the end credits and it's
like original song from Annie Lennox, I'm like, okay, I see what you did there.
We get it.
It's cool.
As things got up and running, Roseman Pike for me, it was a little weird because there
was a feeling as I was watching this film that she was a little over the top with her performance
until I saw actual footage of Marie Coleman and went, nope, that's just who she is.
Now is it because of the atmosphere that that may have been in or is that the personality
who she was?
Okay.
Now, Donna, I want you to think back when we saw Jackie a couple of years ago.
And remember we talked about that and we kind of had the discussion about Portman's
performance in that, how, for you, it graded on you, but that's who Jackie was.
And when they actually interlaced actual Jackie O footage with Portman's and it was a seamless
process, same deal here.
Oh, wow.
When they play actual footage of Marie Coleman, there's a voiceover, I was like, okay, so
they got, oh, wait a minute, that's not Roseman Pike.
This movie is incredible.
A friend of the show Marcus Blake was sitting next to me and we were both transfixed to
the entire time and Marcus himself is a veteran.
So I was interested to hear his thoughts because she was going to these war torn countries
and they were dealing with, you know, American liaisons with press to military and things
like that.
And Marcus was like, this was amazing.
Did you ask him about any accuracy on the field?
We didn't have a lot of time to talk afterwards because you guys know me.
I sit through the credits.
Marcus doesn't tend to, but this movie is incredible.
It's directed by Matthew Heinemann who he is more known for documentaries and shorts.
Don, this is the guy that directed Cartel Land, which I know you were a big fan of last
year.
And he uses that same documentary style, but he puts it to a narrative, which is kind
of interesting because there were moments as she's going through things that I felt that
I was right there next to her.
He gets that camera right down in there.
What network did she, did slash, she worked mostly for a British newspaper, okay.
But she freelanced as well, but most of her career was spent there.
So she was on TV or during her career.
She was, but she was more known for her writing than her.
She wasn't one of those in front of the camera kind of thing or not a lot.
Okay.
But everybody knew who she was.
Yeah.
I just noticed the big one from the director though.
He was the one that did City of Ghost.
Yes.
We also saw last year.
That's also amazing.
So the subject matter is nothing foreign to him, no pun intended.
But for him to do a narrative, it translates amazingly well.
Do you feel like his ability to capture in documentaries made it that much transfixing
for you?
I didn't do a lot of research going in.
Well, no, no, I mean, did it because obviously for you to get sold into something, there
has to be an element of either absolute entertainment or just realism that pulls you in.
It's both.
But what I'm saying is do you think his documentary background helps with that?
Absolutely.
Because it helped him tell a story without shooting a script.
I'm torn as to where this film will wind up in January.
And we talk about this every year because for those of you that are listening to this
on our archive, we recorded this in November.
So the award season is in full swing.
Right.
Everybody's pushing their movies for end of the year.
And every year, we talk about how thick the field is.
And Don, I think you would agree with me.
This year, just as thick as any other that we've dealt with in the five or six years,
you've been there.
I've seen some great stuff this year.
And this is the season where yes, this is where the heavy hitters come out.
But I always hear if you go back to every show that we do our best to the year on for
the last four years, you would say, but there's been so many good films this year.
You say that every year.
And this year is no exception.
This year is no exception at all.
So I worry where this film will wind up in the pantheon of all of the great films that
have come out this year.
But I feel like it has a puncher's chance to get to stand up and get noticed.
Will mention possibly for you?
I think right now, if I remember correctly, this literally sits right outside of my top
10.
Okay.
Now what I was thinking of based on material, feel, and everything that's gone along
with it, does this feel like this could be this year's Hurt Locker?
Because it has that gripping narrative.
I will tell you apples and oranges on that.
Really?
Because this is, it's just a different kind of film.
Allow me to elaborate what I mean.
You were saying it has a puncher's chance.
It seems like a, I don't want to say small budget, but a more indie feel to it, like
the Hurt Locker did.
And that, the reason I go back to that one is because that was the smaller film going
up against Avatar.
And I'm wondering.
Yeah.
And I'm wondering, getting back on topic, if you felt like this has the puncher's chance
as that smaller film that may hit home.
Not necessarily.
I think it's just because there's been so many amazing films this year.
And I think when we do our top and bottom tens of the year, I think a lot of people are
going to be surprised on what's made my list and what hasn't because this field is so
deep.
There.
But I think that releasing this film in November is this smart move because you want people
to have it fresh in their minds.
Uh, Dornin plays a really interesting balance because, and I wrote this in my written
review currently located at www.theclubhousepodcast.com.
That's our website.
That his, he gets the character that he plays in Paul Conroy because he understands
that Paul is the second banana in this deal.
But at the same time, he's, he plays Marie's conscience basically where he's the one saying,
we've got what we need.
We need to go.
This is too dangerous.
We've got to go now or because this, this film is so much more than that.
And I want to talk about that real quick too.
This is not only about her field reporting.
And I think what pushes this even further up for me is that it also deals with, she can't
just, you can't, when you see the things that she's seeing, you can't just leave it in
the field and how she copes with that.
And Paul's kind of the one there going, you know, it's okay to deal with what you're
dealing with.
And I'm here for you.
I got your back regardless.
But you have to confront the nightmares.
You have to confront these images that you can't get out of your head where they're going
to get worse.
And he plays it with an honesty that really impressed me.
Again, I haven't seen a lot of the stuff that the doorning's done, but this, this portrayal
I think will make people stand up and notice because he plays it with a subtlety that
not a lot of actors would.
They would see this as him being her equal versus him being the support for her.
Right.
And he does that very well.
Let me kind of bring up in this, in acting in this thing.
As a former probation officer, I've seen some of the most sickest horrible stuff that,
I can't even imagine the things that you've seen, that I will never tell, not even my
wife about.
Understandable.
But I had, and there's stuff I'll never forget, and I had to start thinking that as in
the job as a robot, that yes, this is horrible, but we got to move on.
Was her mind set the same in that, or did she get where it affected her way too much?
I know we're human, but you have to be able to, I think externally she liked to put that
front on, but in the quiet moments, she realizes that she can't.
And there's a couple of really good sequences that really show that in the moments when
she's by herself, and she drinks herself into oblivion, basically.
But again, I say, if you don't know the story, don't do the research, because by not doing
the research, I was literally on the, there were moments, and I say this in my written
view as well.
There are, I lost track of the number of moments that I was like, oh my god, oh my god,
don't let this happen, don't do this, don't do this, and it just, it wasn't good for
my blood pressure.
I can take that much.
So this, thank god I have low blood pressure.
The simple on that would be, don't know where you're going to go, because it helps with
the ride.
I kind of could see where it was going, but I didn't want to believe where it might be
going.
I feel like that's an edge of spoiler.
Not really.
Okay.
It's, it's kind of one of, because, and we can talk about this off air.
It's not like they necessarily hide where it's going, but at the same time, if you're not,
if you don't do the research, you don't, you're just kind of like, okay, that's, this is
where we are on the timeline, kind of a thing.
Okay.
But this movie is amazing.
I mean, even when she has scenes with her, her editor, played by Tom Hollander, who
is always great.
He's always awesome.
And you see, you can even, in his performance, you can see how he's torn because he wants
her to go out there, and because he knows that this is, this is her thing.
But he sees the, the toll it's taking on her, and he wants to be her friend, but he has
to be her boss at the same time.
Yeah.
It's, this movie is nothing short of riveting.
And I was a little bit bummed because the screening got moved, and then there was a morning
screening that I couldn't attend, and I was so glad they put another prime time screening
on this because this, I would have been horribly bummed if I didn't get to see this one.
Yeah, I do want to see this in the end.
It's so good.
Yeah.
And I appreciate allied, you know, accommodating us for this because this movie is that good.
I mean, and it was like, when they changed, I was like, oh, and I mean, they were riding
the, you know, I said, no, we're going to do another one.
Can you do this?
And I'm like, absolutely, I can be there.
Yeah.
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The biggest gripe with this film, or if you were the director, well, will you have changed?
If there is a criticism, and when I talk about this in my written review, and this is a
weird criticism, it's almost too real in certain sections.
Like unnerving?
Yes.
Luckily, it doesn't dwell on it because you guys know how I am with, with graphic violence
and things of that nature.
I don't do well with it.
But it's enough to give the audience a sense of this is what happened, but it doesn't necessarily
dwell on it.
It's a kind of like, quick cuts of things.
It's kind of like the reservoir dogs with the ear where it goes to the side and you kind
of know what's happening.
No, you see something.
Okay.
No, it does show something.
Okay.
What I'd be fidgeting in my chair like I've done once in a few times or would have been
like, or were you going, oh, dear, oh, dear, because I need a couple of points, I think
you might.
Okay.
But nothing, it's not consistent and it's not a ton, but it's enough to tell the audience,
hey, watch out.
Basically, as the old guy says, where's hell?
Yeah.
No, is it to the level of, like when they, if you remember when saving private Ryan came
out and they had people available to veterans after seeing it, is it to that level of intensity?
Not really.
Okay.
Because private Ryan is, it's just, it's on such a list by itself.
And that's actually going to be referenced in another home show that we've got coming
up because that's when we talk about a movie Don Saw this week.
It's kind of funny that you actually asked that question because you didn't know that
and I know that because I edit the reviews.
But this film is so good and I wouldn't be surprised to see some of our friends in
the Dallas press and even some of the national, international press that are telling people
to put this on the radar.
Now, two quick questions.
One, do you see this for warden to season next for acting or?
But that's what I'm saying.
It's one of those, it's got a puncher's chance.
Okay.
Well, no, no, no, no, I understand what he's saying.
Are you saying is it for the people that you see on film or the people behind the camera
more?
Okay, so it's both.
Both.
Cinematography would be one that if I had to pick one, Cinematography would be, you would
almost be betting out with house money because this is so visually gritty and real.
On your gripe, do you think that they put that in there because it's showing, hey, this
is what really, you know, it's showing, where's hell, where's hell, brother?
Because that's your gripe, but you think the director said, I'm showing this because
this is what happened.
Yeah.
As comfortable as it.
Uncomfortable as it is.
Well, and you also have to remember this guy does documentaries and he has seen some
stuff we can't imagine.
Yeah.
And I just, I can't say enough about this film, be prepared for real.
I mean, that's really the only thing I can say, just be prepared for real.
It sounds like you're setting up for a couple of questions.
You guys ready?
Yep.
All right, let's get to the final analysis.
The way we do the final analysis on the show, we're not going to give you thumbs up, thumbs
down, letter grades numbers, anything like that.
Up to two questions will be asked.
Question number one is, would I see this film again?
If the answers know that we're done here, but if the answer is yes, then we have a spectrum
to work from.
From the best of the best of the worst of the best, here's how it rolls.
Full price data theater down to a twilight showing, down to a matinee showing, down to early
the morning on a weekend, down to actually leaving my house to get it from red box, down
to streaming on Netflix, down to cable.
And now Rob?
Yes, sir.
Would you see a private war again?
Absolutely.
Okay.
Inquiring mine's one or no?
I'm told out what level would.
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
This film is one that everybody needs to put in their Mercedes.
Is it getting a specialty theater release?
It's an indie film, it wouldn't.
I wouldn't expect it, but I figured you might have looked.
But if you could get it in a larger house where you could have a really good sound system
to work with, I mean, we were in one of the bigger houses.
Actually, no, we weren't.
We were in one of the smaller houses with our friends at the Angelica when I saw this.
But I would love to see this in a larger room, for sure, because it's just, man, this
is a good film.
So go check it out.
It is Matthew Heinemann directing a private war for this whole thing.
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