Dallas VideoFest 29 Part 1

All right, so you know that thing where you go to do a live remote show and then you forget your iPod so you don't have music to play to start the podcast. Well, that's where we are. Well, hold on, hold on, hold on.

It is, we can't do anything copyright. It is seven o'clock on the East Coast. It is four o'clock on the West Coast.

It is the 21st of October in the year of our Lord 2016 season seven, episode 15, 365 times. This voice has welcomed you to the Clubhouse Podcast. As we've been telling you all week, we are live right now at the Angelica Film Center.

It is Dallas Video Fest 29. We're going to get the introductions done quickly because we've got somebody on. We want to get started.

My name is Rob. I am the executive producer of the Clubhouse Podcast and we've got some cool stuff coming up tonight to my right as he tends to be more on the road. He is my co-host and his sunglasses are bigger than the wheels on my car.

He is Chad. How are you, sir? You know, you know, you're in via said those things.

If that's what gets you through the night, fine. Across from him, is the official fact checker of this show and a man who does not know what's about to happen. He is Don Ford.

Welcome, sir. We're doing a film festival, though. We are.

That we are. But across from me is a guy that we hope and we're going to have more than once on this show because he, when you talk about Dallas Video Fest 29, there is the one name that you think of first. He is the man sitting across from me.

He is one of our favorite human beings. He is Bart Weiss. Welcome, sir.

Well, thank you. There's nothing I could say after that. That's it.

Get that mic position so we can hear you. Nice and clear. All right.

That's a little high. Hopefully we're going to book in just so we'll have you at the beginning of this one and then Sunday we're going to come back. We'll have you at the end of that one.

I think by Sunday, if I'm able to utter anything that makes sense, that'll be your kind of miracle. I call that any day that ends in why, but that's just me. So this is night three technically, right?

Yes, absolutely. The opening gala Tuesday night, or I'm sorry, Wednesday night. I'm getting Tuesday and then last night was the sunrise with the Dallas Chamber Symphony.

And boy, was that an amazing experience. I've talked to a handful of people and they were like, you missed it. And I was like, I've been booked.

You know, it's like to experience a silent film in that kind of way. And a way that was different than it was originally presented because like the music was just amazing. And to see it in a community of people in this very beautiful expressiveness to film, it's just an amazing night.

And then the next night with DJ Spooky. And that's the Texas theater, right? Texas theater.

Reinterpreting that very classless film, Birth of the Nation, into rebirth of the Nation, and sort of reclaiming and mixing a sense of a brekkian device with hip-hop culture, with trying to reframe some racist ideology and reclaiming it. It was truly an extraordinary experience. And for those of you just to be sure, this is the 1915 film, not the 2016 film.

Right, right. This is an original work by DJ Spooky with the Synergy Quentin from SMU that was just really amazing. It's one of those things that you're just never going to be able to see again.

But the last couple of weeks I've had, it bumped me out because I really want to see this. These are events, and hey, we got a ton more coming. I mean, I'm telling you, we are just like today, tomorrow, and Sunday, like Saturday, we have another live event that's of one of a kind thing.

So I don't know if you've heard of your remember this group called Anne Farm. There are a bunch of artists. They made the Cadillac Ranch, you know, those Cadillacs in the dirt.

Oh, yeah, I know that. It's okay, okay. I'm with you.

Okay, so one of the guys who was part of that group, Chip Lord, will be here to show this film called Greetings from Amarillo with the live guitarist. Oh, wow. And so that's like incredibly something.

We have some really interesting. We have like three things about like the history of media, the present days of media, and the future. So the history is WFA Channel 8.

There's an archive that has the actual fish from the 60s and 70s that newsmen shot. Not edited, but the original material. And they've restored these to show what news used to look like.

Then we have, for those people that are here in the Metroplex, that's our local ABC affiliate. They've actually been witness to very many things now as history. A lot of the footage of the Kennedy assassination came from WFA.

So for people that want to really put it into context. But there's a lot of really great stuff. And then in terms of contemporary media, we have an editor who's been working on 60 minutes.

You know, the original show that was doing investigative journalism. And she's going to show what the material came in like and how it got shaped into the story that you saw. And this is like an opportunity to see like, you know, when people talk about what is manipulation of television, you will actually get to see it.

For all those people that think we're out to do this or that or whatever else, you can see how the sausage is made. And that's like a rare thing. I mean, people don't get a chance to see that.

And then we have an associate publisher from the New York Times who's going to talk about why the New York Times has gotten into virtual reality, how they do it, what it is, and why. And that's so those three are all Saturday afternoon. Is that going to be here at the Angelica?

Everything is everything for now on here at the Angelica. And by the way, if you get a full festival pass, we have this really cool lounge that you can hang out and have, say, an alcoholic beverage and maybe some food and talk to filmmakers. And it's right outside where the Angelica is.

If you've been here, you just go right downstairs and that's where the lounge is. Great. And it's a great space too.

It's an awesome space. And we thank the Dallas Film Commission for letting us do that. A couple other things.

For people who are really interested in film directing, we have this song called The Art of Directing, Frank Capra. And I think everybody in the world has seen a Frank Capra film, right? If you haven't, you're not really a film lover.

If you haven't, you may not be an American. You know. I mean, what do you do at Christmas times?

Yeah, I was like, you see one at least once a year. Right. Sometimes not even much.

So the AFI used to have this series back in the 70s where they were bringing famous directors in to come and talk to their students. And this guy, Alan Holtzman, found the one-inch videotapes of these. Oh wow.

And so he found the one with Capra. And he inner cut that with Capra's films. So you really hear him talk about from silent comedies onto all of his classic films, how he made decisions about things.

What, how he works with actors? How he casts, there's this one beautiful moment. We talked about how, since they shoot out of sequence, how do you get your actors like up to the moment?

So he said he got them to record the audio onto disk and play that back for the actors. So they could sort of respond to that. So it's like, there's no place else where you can learn this.

I mean, it's like this amazingly wonderful experience that we have. And when is that? That is Saturday afternoon.

So a lot going on tomorrow. There's a lot going on tomorrow. And the festival goes through Sunday, but here's the thing.

Go ahead and get your weekend pass now so that you've already got it out of the way so that when you get here to the Angelica, you can make your schedule out. Know where you're going to be. You don't have to worry about anything else.

And not only that, once you're here, if you've never been to our festival and you're walking around, you'll see me because I'm always walking around. Or if you don't ask somebody, they'll point you out to me. You open up your program book and I will circle in what you need to see.

See, there you go, because Bard is the man of the people. And for those of you that are keeping score at home, this was the very first festival that ever led us broadcast live. So we will always be eternally grateful to you, sir.

Number one, number two, this is our fourth year in a row. Really? So, and next year, of course, is the big one because next year is going to be 30.

Oh my god. So, you know, we're already putting our hat in the rain. We're going to be here for you next year too.

And we'll be here until you kick us out. So, speaking of longevity. So, you know, this is our 30th year of our festival.

We are, we have a guest here with us and he's been with us for a couple of days. And we'll be here through to the end named Gordon Quinn. And most of you don't know who Gordon is, but he's, he was one of the founders of something called Cartemquin Films in Chicago.

And you might say, never heard of that, but you have heard of hoop dreams. Oh, absolutely. So great film.

Right. So they made hoop dreams and tons more. This is somebody who's been making documentary films for 50 years.

I mean, think about that for the second. Think of the history of documentary. Think of what he's been through and seen and done.

So, we're showing hoop dreams tomorrow morning. We have this film called The Trials of Muhammad Ali that he worked on tonight and then another short film of his tonight. And then there's a contemporary film that was just been released from Cartemquin called Unbroken Glass that we're showing on Sunday.

So you can see this whole arc of this collective of people in Chicago who've been doing incredible documentary work. And like so much more. My favorite film.

Okay. Let's do this. All right.

And I hesitate to say this because they're all my favorite films. They're like my children, which one is the best one? Well, you know, anyway, so there's this film that I really, really like called Two Trains Running.

And it's playing this evening. So if you're hearing this, get your ass on down here. Get down to the Angelica.

So this film mixes the Civil Rights struggle in the 60s with these two guys, one in New York, one in California. And they're both really into country blues. And they each separately are interested in finding this person, this blues artist who has sort of disappeared.

So they get a bunch of guys together and are driving from either New York or California to the South. Unbeknownst to each other, correct? Unbeknownst to each other, looking for these blues singers.

And at one point, they're like two towns apart from each other. And they have no idea about each other's existence. And it's this real sense of both obsession, the value of music, and sort of what this era was like trying to sort of find these missing people.

And it's so beautifully done. I mean, it's just an incredible one. I want to say we talked about that in passing a few months ago when we ran into each other at a screening.

Because this, this sounds really familiar. It's right in your wheelhouse because number one, it's narrated by common. And you know I'm a fan.

And the soundtrack features one Gary Clark Jr. I am such a Gary Clark Jr. fan.

And he was just in town two weeks ago up with Casino up the road. Telling you, this film is like incredibly awesome. It is just really great.

And just another sports film. I don't know how big of a fan you are of basketball. But if you ever heard of Spencer Heywood.

Okay, so Spencer Heywood is the person who essentially sued the NBA so that we were able to have free agency. But his story is so much deeper and complex. And this was a film that was made by AMS Pictures here in Dallas, Texas at full court, the Spencer Heywood story.

And Spencer Heywood will be here Sunday. I think it's around five o'clock. And he is an incredible inspiration.

Not only for what he did in basketball and getting to that. And do you want to look in there and tell him who narrates that film? Oh goodness.

Chuck E.D., I'm trying to. Really? Oh, sorry, what?

Chuck E.D. Really? Yes.

Because it doesn't say it in here. Or if it does. But it does.

The chance of looking through the media guy. That's another thing I wanted to say. You could kill a small animal with this media guy.

It's so big this year. I mean, you want to talk about a lot going on. Like this media guy's got to wait to it.

And not only that, but all of that design and the inside. That was done by UTA students. Really?

Universe Texas, Arlington, just down the road to peace. Yes. Where I teach.

I love the cover this year. I'm a big fan of the... Is this the logo that's on the t-shirts, too, if I'm not mistaken.

Yes. I love this logo this year. You know, for us design is really kind of important.

Because what we do is like all over the place. But to me, all of this comes down to his film set. The ability to change your life.

And they're inspirational. And they mean something to you. And the design element should also.

It shouldn't just be like, hey, we're going to come here. But it sort of resonates in a kind of way that is kind of expressive. Guys, I've got a festival to pull on.

I've got a... We actually do. And we hope to see you Sunday night.

Towards the end of the show. If not before, I will definitely come back and talk later. Thank you guys.

Barwais, this is a whole new time. Thank you, Dan. When it comes to Dallas at Video Fest, 29, one of our favorite human beings in the world.

You are the scene of the Clubhouse podcast. Go enjoy yourself, sir. I know you will.

We have to... We always start... Normally, we start our show because we want to get barred on.

So we're going to push corrections to right now. A couple of corrections from our last show, a couple of weeks ago. Bray Wyatt and Randy Orton cannot compete in Hell in a cell because it's a raw pay-per-view.

So we want to put that out there. Also, we did not talk about the Eight Man tag on the show because it was not in the card until the last minute, but I'm giving us credit for that anyway. We're going to talk about those standings next Sunday because next Sunday is Hell in a cell.

Before we get to that, while we're waiting for Don to get back, I want to say a special thank you to the Empire who has kind of come out and forced a little bit. For those of you that do not know, last week, I came back home to about two-thirds of my house under water due to an exploding hose in the guest bathroom right outside the studio. And that's why we did not have a show on Sunday because my house...

Granted, my house is still a disaster area, but it's a more organized disaster area. I want to thank everybody that's reached out and just checking on me and making sure that what I do have left of my sanity is still intact. Things are going to be touching go for a few weeks as we get the studio back under control and get it back up to abnormal.

We are not going to miss any shows. They're probably just going to sound a little different. Basically what we're going to be doing is using our road rig in a...

Probably in the green room and doing the show that way. So things are going to be... Wheels off for a few weeks.

However, it'll give us to make sure everything's up and running for November the 20th. It's a big date, sir. Yes it is.

WWE Survivor Series. We're going to be live at the Henderson Tap House in just off Central and Henderson in Dallas for the Survivor Series pre-show. Not too far from here, actually.

Not very far from here at all. Just a couple of legs that's up the freeway. And we're on the same side of the freeway.

That's convenient. Okay. So it's just east of Central on Henderson Avenue.

We're going to be doing our live pre-show there. It's a great facility. I had a chance to go talk to the management out there.

Great people. They're very excited to have the Empire come out and force. Right now they only want to do the majors, which we get that.

Yeah. But if we can show up and show out well enough, they're going to add more shows to it. So we want to make sure everybody shows up at Henderson Tap House on November the 24th.

WWE Survivor Series. Don's back. So we're going to turn his microphone on.

You're not doing anything. We're doing something else first. No, no, no, no.

No, this is very important. This is very important. This is very important.

This is very important. Kelly, tell him this is very important. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

My show. My show. Our show.

But yeah, let you go. Eight days ago was Don's birthday. A week ago yesterday.

Forty-fourty-five. So I told Don that I did order his present. It is here.

And I told him that there is no, if I gave him a hundred guesses, he would, Chad, I think you would agree with me here when I say this, he would not be able to guess what I have in this cardboard box that sits at my feet currently. I did have a hand in this. Is it a mail order right from Russia?

No, I thought you had that taken care of already. No, no. Number two.

So an eight ball of crack cocaine? No, I can't, I couldn't order that from Amazon. Although you can, you can get pretty much anything from Amazon.

You can't get that. But while I do this, Gordon's going to be our next guest. Oh, really?

Yeah. Oh, wow. Okay.

Fair enough. We're going to get, we're going to hit the ground and run in. So don't remember?

This is an audio medium. Tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick. You're going to have to tell people what it is.

Is it going to explode when I open? Not as far as you know. Okay.

It might burn you. Oh, my lord. The alien queen.

The pop. It's the Funko pop, yes. That is the alien queen.

Dude, thank you. There's no way you wouldn't know I was in that box engine and it's and it's and it's a it's one of the larger Funko pop figures It really is and they also if you look on the back They do have the regular alien and they also have the the Ripley so you can get you can collect the whole set there Well, it's too late to get Ripley since it just got her signature while you know you just don't get the figure though So happy belated birthday to you sir oh That's right because you you weren't here for Um Don got you something else as a belated birthday gift. No This Don with the expert work of the four-learn gift bag We just named scratched out and Chad's name written on it.

Oh, okay. I thought this was gonna be a bit No, I thought it was a bit. No, it is not there was a bit.

Okay. What do you have there? I don't really consider this Oh, that's right.

You did tell me about that. Tell people what it is. This is an audio medium This is a oh, I'm trying to get it turned around.

I want to make sure I got the the genre ride I wasn't sure which era trooper this was it is a classic stormtrooper piggy bank and Thank you, sir. You're welcome and of course you got the other gift before that. Okay.

Okay. Yeah, but You know me. Okay.

Yes. I knew there was a big gift I knew there was a big gift because he told me there was a big gift when I saw me other night I love his wrapping paper. It's a maze runner Don't like to use some of the many posters.

We get its screenings for wrapping paper It's kind of genius if you ask me. I don't have a drink of my tasty. Oh, he doesn't know what this is No, he'll probably laugh.

So let me finish my water then. Okay, we're good Let me see let me see It's a novel by Max Berry called lexicon and if you don't know why that's funny go back to the last episode and you'll figure it out Don was walking lexicon. Oh my god Better you than me.

It's all I'm saying. Better you than me That's meta. That's that's funny.

That's funny dude You've outdone yourself this time. Oh no, I already got your Christmas Oh god. Yeah He's already got wheels and oceans there.

You thought honey booboo was bad. Oh All right, so while we're waiting Yeah, you know me. I gotta go bye.

Let's talk some television headlines. Congratulations to the CW. I don't know if you saw this Happy birthday, but thank you.

You took a couple of weeks ago from the super girl premiere Best numbers in how long? Yeah last year the season premiere of my crazy ex-girlfriend had that same time slot Supergirl tripled its ratings. You haven't watched it yet.

Yes, I have I watched the first episode I watched the second one yet. What did you think? I liked it I think all four of those shows about supergirl flash arrow and legends of tomorrow have started out pretty strong I got to say That's pretty much my favorite show of those supergirls.

Yes, it is. I really liked the way legends of tomorrow started out Although I wish they would have dragged that out a little bit, but Yeah, yeah Kind of like how they're kind of letting um White canary do her own thing. Yeah, that was pretty funny But it is it's it just it looks like the the transition from CBS to CW hasn't heard supergirl at all I knew I knew it wouldn't if anything.

I think it's helped Also, we have some news from AMC by the way this Sunday is the season premiere for the walking dead I will tell you apparently the script has leaked. Oh really I read the spoilers that I'm not saying word Uh, because I don't watch the walking dead. So having those spoilers doesn't really do anything for me Yeah, my wife however, a different story making a b-line from here on site AMC announced I did get caught up on halt and catch fire this season finale Not as cool as the last one, but next season season four will be the last season for that show They did a lot of time jumping this season.

They they covered about five or six years this season So I did hear that I couldn't I couldn't remember it was this one or Silicon Valley that was getting still still a great show still enjoyed it um There were a couple of plot points this season that I thought was me kind of met for me But overall a great season. It's a great show and I think I think season four is probably going to be good enough Yeah, I thought for it. I was kind of afraid that with that concept you could only go so far with that show before you ran out of steam So have you heard this rumor out of ABC?

Which one that they have won the bidding war for a new sitcom About a family who finds their dream home, but they can't afford it I just heard about this in the way over and so the only way they can afford this dream home is that the when they move in The uh The original owner gets to stay there until she passes well the new family mother will be paid by the great Amy Polar Who you know I'm a huge fan of and I think she's a co-producer and a writer on this as well and the actual Older lady living there is going to be the reach welcome back to television to the great Carol Burnett Do you know anything about the backstory of why this show even existed in the first place? It sounds like it's based on the story of the way the playboy mentions being so apparently this is a thing The it's done quite a bit in Europe and it's just starting to catch on over here But this is an actual thing people do this I'm a book captain well The the head writer on this show and I can't recall his name They were talking about it on on the radio. I swear right before I got here.

They were talking about on the radio the guy who who brought this idea uh to abc Was given his first break in show business by Carol Burnett herself oh really because when she got her first break when she was a struggling aspiring actress in the 50s and 60s she got An anonymous letter and a thousand dollar check from a from an anonymous benefactor that said here's the money the That I want you to make something of yourself and do great things and then all I ask for you to do is to pay it forward later Which she has tenfold and she did with this guy specifically she did the same thing He won't disclose the amount that she gave him So now now that she's been out of the public eye for a while now he's returning the favor back to us I'm losing my mind. Do you see my other two bottles of water around here somewhere? No, I saw you walk up here with them, but While they buy you're by are they by your roller they were hiding on the other side of the chair.

Okay All right We're gonna get back to some more up the Russ is in the chat room. What's up? Russ good to see you Uh and before we get to our first guest our last tv headline abc also developing a series based on enemy of the state the will smith extravaganza Really?

I thought we already did that Didn't TNT do something with that not that I could recall okay fair enough All right, we have our first guest We can't just talk to each other for the next two hours what that what then why would we be here? Because we are live at Dallas video fest 29 We were at the Angelica Film Center in Mockingbird station come on by hangout with us. We're gonna be back here again For our normal show Sunday and our normal timeslight of seven eastern four Pacific We have our very first Guess I'm gonna let her introduce herself go ahead talk right into that microphone please.

I'm Melanie Yonks and I'm the chair of the 15th annual chick flicks film festival Hosted or sponsored by women in film Dallas The logo on the badge around your neck. Is that the chick flicks festival logo it is I am such a look at this look at this For those of you that are listening right now, it's a it's the the palm leaf that you see in like all the festivals But it's a little like a baby chick that's got like a beret and sunglasses and a red star on its chest. I love that And that's also this weekend Yes, so we are partnering with the Dallas video fest and we Because of our partnership with the Dallas video fest we're able to expand our festival Our festival is traditionally a short showcase and we give Awards and honors to female directors producers You know women who are filmmakers and our mission at women in film Dallas is to mentor promote and empower women in the film TV and media industries Now when you say short festival you talk about the length of the festival or are there are these short films?

Yes, traditionally we have a short films showcase which is short films they're there technically I think under 25 minutes all of them this year under about 17 or 18 minutes and we're showing eight spectacular films in our short showcase So it's a festival of shorts not a short festival correct. All right guys. I want to make sure everybody's clean Oh, sorry Tonight, however, we are co-sponsoring a an incredible feature film you're right up on that thing if you would With the Dallas video fest.

It's called left on pearl. Okay. It's an amazing documentary about How when women come together they're very empowered in 1971 at Harvard University The reason that the film is called left on pearl is because there were women Got together and marched through the streets in a peaceful protest and they had a police escort But instead of going straight with the police like they were supposed to they actually turned left on pearl and occupied in a band in building Until Harvard agreed to give them a women's center Very nice It's it's very interesting and the director will be here tonight for Q&A and she's gonna help us tomorrow One of the interesting things that Women in film Dallas and the chick flicks festival is doing this year is we've created an empowerment workshop for teenage girls Outstanding and this this we're really excited about this.

It's going to be taught by two women who are Basically one of them is a professional speaker on empowerment She's an author and she lectures all around the country on empowerment and the other women both of them are members of women in film The other one is from headline mentors and she actually for a living Creates mentoring groups for teenage girls So together we came together and created a workshop around our feature that we're going to have tomorrow called hearty and We are incorporating left on pearl in it as well and the girls are invited to come to the empowerment workshop And to the to the screening of hearty and then we'll walk them to the empowerment workshop where the director of left on pearl will join our team and we're going to talk about The film and how it relates to empowerment and what they can do in their lives to overcome obstacles like the subject of the film hearty Here at the Angelica tomorrow all of this is at the Angelica and what time is the workshop because I want to make sure people know Well the work the workshop if they're interested they need to Go online and let me know directly because it is a private workshop. Okay. The screening itself is at 345 Of hearty hearty is about Heather the heat hearty she is the bantam weight champion female boxer And she had an awful lot of obstacles in her life.

She's a single mom. She's not economically well off She came from some other issues and challenges and Yet she put one foot in front of the other and both as a boxer and as a person Whenever she gets gets knocked down she gets back back up and keeps going and this is part of our message for these teen girls is You know if you want to go to college if you want to do whatever it is if you need if you're having problems with bullying whatever the situation You have to put one foot in front of the other and continue to move forward And we're here to show you examples of how You know you can do that and so we're very excited about bringing this Extension of our mission to empower and mentor women to these young girls. How long has the pestle been around This is the 15th year of chick clicks awesome, but it's the first year that we've got grown beyond our short showcase So this year we have four screenings We had one last night with the um called Quaker Oats It's a charming Romantic comedy when it comes it's at other on the festival circuit right now But I have no doubt that it will get distribution and please go see it if you like romantic comedies if you have the opportunity And then we also have of course left on parole that we were talking about tonight tonight And that's at seven o'clock at the Angelica theater tonight.

So you got 31 minutes to get here to watch that Well, we'll give you an extra 10 by the time we introduce the director and all that stuff And then tomorrow is hearty tomorrow at 345 p.m. Is hearty and at 530 we have our shorts showcase How many shorts are in the showcase for tomorrow night? There are eight shorts in our showcase.

We had to say that really slow Peter Piper picked a pack of short showcases. I was waiting. Yeah, I'm waiting for somebody to strip on that So we have eight fantastic shorts.

We called these we curated these from The record number we've ever had submitted before and We have a film from as far away as England. We have some from right here in Texas We have literally we actually have five directors from the shorts that will be in the theater tomorrow So they will come up for a Q&A we have We do have a Best of Fest award a Texas award and an audience choice award So if you come you get to vote on the film of your choice And we had some very esteemed judges this year We're also honoring Betty Buckley who was our founding member of women in film Dallas and she was one of our judges we have um also Don Berks who's a local film critic for the Dallas Morning News and Courtney weir who was one of our previous winners of our grants and scholarships One of the nice things about women in film Dallas is that in the past 30 plus years that we've been here We've given out over $60,000 in finishing funds and college scholarships to women nice And you said for people good that workshop tomorrow. They need to get a hold of you.

How do they do that? That is a good question Is there a website that you can go to Facebook, Twitter, anything of that nature? Yeah, so please go to women in film Dallas.

It's wifdallas.org um if you go to the main page and click on the chick it'll take you to all the information about the film festival and you can email me at Chick Flix CHICK F-L-I-C-K-S at wifdallas.org and tell me that you would like to participate in the Empowerment Workshop. It's for teenage older teenage girls only so about 15 to 18 19 somewhere in there. Okay.

Yes, and you must have your parents permission So if you come up at the theater tomorrow, you will have to have a parent to sign a permission slip And I saw you even have the logo on t-shirts We do we're selling our really awesome chick flix t-shirts $20 at the door and you can buy tickets $12 at the door for any single screening Or we're still selling our VIP passes and we'll give you a discount for the later date in the past Because we have a great party celebration Saturday night at eight o'clock in the Dallas Film Commission lounge And it's right downstairs from where we are right now. It's right next door to the Angelica And we have live music. We have Tiffany Carlin who again is a local female musician And she's bringing the calamity jane's a trio of sisters local musicians again.

I've heard of them Well, good. So come on to the party. Well definitely we would love for you to come and join us and um You know, we'll have it's we have a catering by southern best catering one of our sponsors um catering Yeah, all you have to do is mention food and his eyes glazed over Well, it's gonna be good and we have wine and beer and Uh Lots of entertainment and fun and so we hope you'll join us and you guys are right upstairs with our friends from video fest as well So when you come here to the Angelica head on upstairs make sure you stop by and see a melody She's gonna tell you all about it.

I'm just I'm very excited for them to be here I love it when that's another's embark so awesome is that he lets all of these other organizations come and partner up We're gonna go let you enjoy yourself. Thank you so much wif.org Make sure you get in there click in there get all the information you need wif.dallas. Oh Dallas.

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Thank you All right, Don's got it the per the cavalcade of stars continues Melanie dropped a couple things Yeah, I think it's one of your audience participation things cool. She should get upstairs and she's like I had something else And I don't know where it is we'd have it. Please sir comes it down Now you're gonna think there's a really slow echo in this room chat Because the guy that we're about to talk to is somebody that we were talking about a little while ago Yes indeed and so since he has sat down talk right into that microphone tell everybody who you are Because they're not gonna believe us if we tell them Write right up on get right up on it.

I'm Gordon Quinn. I'm the founder and artistic director of cartonquin films And we've been a lot of places this year because it's our 50th anniversary and that's a 50 years of documentary film. Yeah I'm a huge documentary fan So you're gonna throw some things at me and you're probably gonna watch my jaw hit the floor Tell the people some of the the the documentaries that you've been able to get out there to the public Well, you know our most famous film is hoop dreams just it is but You know, we've we've done a lot of things over the years.

I mean Where there's a film Stevie that's one of mine and Steve's favorites We have a new film that came out a couple years ago called the home stretch That got about homeless high school youth that got a lot of attention And we've got several films here at the festival that we're showing we are showing hoop dreams, which is our most famous film And we are showing tonight the trials of Muhammad Ali By Bill Siegel and that's a film That is you know tells the story of Muhammad Ali's battle with the draft and from an era when he was demonized And a lot of people were very critical of him and a chapter that I don't know that outside of your film A lot of people have really gone into it was it was almost kind of breathed in the film Which I thought the film was it stopped at right this work where it shouldn't You're referring to the Bob Pills in the most famous film This this chapter of of Muhammad Ali your cash is clay. You know the home. You know mom can even play on my college right That chapter is very very important to the things that have that happened afterwards Not only to him, but to us as a country as a whole yeah I mean he was a guy who it's about his moral core and a moral stance that he took That Everyone was like, you know People who supported him were like well, he's burned all his bridges He's never going to be you know famous or beloved He'll lose all his endorsement contracts and of course some of that happened But the point is by the end of his life he was this incredible international hero And part of the reason was because he he stood up for his beliefs And that's what we made the film about we made the film about exactly that period in his history When you know people that you look back and you can't believe the people that were demonizing him 50 years of documentary filmmaking Yeah, I hate to say you've covered it all because if you did we wouldn't have more documentaries.

Oh yeah There's no way you cover it all now you know cover it all is there something is there something right now That you have a passion for that you haven't been able to do yet that you're looking forward to Well, there's there's films we're working on now that I think are trying to get at Some of the most fundamental contradictions in American society that it's not like there haven't been documentaries made about this But America has never come to terms with slavery and the legacy of slavery and the You know the the reassertion of white supremacy after World War 2 You know what I saw the other night Last night here the last laugh about you know, what kind of jokes can you make about the Holocaust right? Oh, we can You know because who was it that produced that it was somebody of note produced that yeah, it was a woman but I'm I'm I just had it. I heard it mentioned like I don't want to read your show that I let's do a couple of months ago and and you know it's but We can't make a lot of jokes about slavery because we haven't dealt with it We haven't confronted that legacy in America and so I think there films to be made in that area We we've got a big project now that Steve James is doing called America to me, which is about kids in a suburban high school that are struggling with issues of race and the achievement gap and and some of those issues and it you know when we do a film that's based in an institution We like to look at a really good institution You don't want to go into a snake pit and then you just it's like oh well Those people are awful and fire them and close it down And it's like no you want to look at a good institution and say okay if these people are failing if this institution is Then the problems got to be out here in the broader system right and so we learned that on our first film home for life But there's always you know, I mean we've got films in the works now that are about things that I never thought oh Gee, that's a film you know, we have a film that's going to be shown here Sunday night unbroken glass That is about that that's that's by a first-time filmmaker Denesh Sabu Who came through our diversity program at Cartamquan diverse voices and docs And it's about his family and about his mother his mother committed suicide when he was six years old His father dies a year later He's raised by his sisters But it's an immigrant family and no one ever really talked about What happened you know what why did these people disappear from his life?

And so he's kind of making this film on this journey to find out what happened And then to come to terms with that past he goes back to India and meets other members of his family and learns About other people in his family with mental illness and it it's a pretty powerful film And he'll be here. He's he's coming in. He's he's coming in from Seattle.

He's had a film festival there I know he'll be here tomorrow. I'm finding myself especially It's weird for me to say this as I'm getting older That I'm being drawn more to documentaries because I feel like Film now even narrative film is not at the escapism that it used to be Can you talk a little bit about Narrative versus documentary as the lion seems to be getting a lot more blurred Yeah, I'm not sure Why that is I think maybe it's because we've become more sophisticated as documentary filmmakers People used to think and when hoop dreams came out Two words that I use a lot are documentary and democracy and the PR people were like don't mention either one of those words That's a kiss of death to any kind of theatrical release and audience, you know the film was being released Theatrically so I think there was this perception and misperception That documentary was like somehow going to be good for you and you would have to like you know And what really you know, I got into documentary. I was I loved as a kid.

I love feature films And I'd go in the theater and sit right in the front row, you know, look up at the screening So it takes up your draft or referrals. Yeah, drawn into the story and they then fantasy basically You get older and you move back in the theater, you know And now I've had some issues with my eyes. I'm really back in the front if you're looking for me I'm right there in the first couple of rows.

I got to the point where I said on the aisle So if I have to go to the restroom, I'm not walking over a bunch of people right I try to do that, but I'm back I'm back in those first couple rows But when I was at the University of Chicago and I saw Work Ricky Leacock's Joyce and Joyce Chopra's happy Mother's Day And then I saw the Maisel's brothers films and Jean Roosh And those early Verite films were just like oh That's what I want to do. I want to tell stories about real life And I got you get caught up in them and you're drawn into them And you're you know, you're using all of your human abilities to interpret human behavior In all its complexities with with real people that you're looking at. So you don't need the narrator When we our first film home for life when it came out it's very Verite driven and People you know, we're saying just well you need an expert to tell people what's going on There's nobody explaining what's happening to these old people and I was like Everybody knows what's happening to these old people because it's human behavior You know, it's people can see somebody treating somebody else badly and understand that what's going on there Is they're treating them badly because they feel guilty?

You know, it's not because they want to be mean, but they feel guilty about what's happening And so they act badly. I mean we've all we understand that we don't have to explain it to people People can see it for themselves as you do in an narrative film So I think that explains some of it, you know, but I think I don't know, you know I mean, I think the other thing is is that You know, there's been a real there's less and less journalism out there and that's problematic You know, you you you turn on what's supposed to be the news And many of these channels. I mean, and it's just people Yelling at each other voicing opinions.

Well, that's actually right now. Yeah, you know, it's like where is where are reporters Where are the people the people who go out and and tell the story, you know And find the story and that kind of thing. So maybe as there's less of that people are looking to documentaries to do some of that for them to kind of You know dig below the surface of things Is there as what was the last film that you saw a narrative documentary or whatever that really really grabbed your attention That wasn't one of your films That's a good question the last film that I saw that really grabbed my attention Um There's always interested to hear filmmakers perspective.

Yeah Okay, you know, this this didn't this is an old film But it was just shown somewhere and I saw something on Facebook about it America American dream barber coppers film. Oh wow And you know, what I loved about that film is that it straddled the issue you had The rank and file militant steel workers you had the union who are at odds with each other And she's sympathetic to both sides and that I found that really really powerful Um, I should be able to come up. Maybe I'll see something here I probably will see something here at the festival.

Oh, that would be a good has some amazing material Yeah, there would be a good a good answer to your question So Are you gonna gonna have a lot of time or are you gonna be spending most of your time Working with some of the films that you brought with you Um, I think I'm gonna get to see more films here than I usually get to see I'm hoping to I hope to see two tonight I hope to see left on pearl and I also hope to see you just talk to that that film yeah, and then there's The trials of Muhammad Ali of course is playing tonight at seven o'clock 15 minutes Yeah, in 15 minutes and it's gonna play also With a film that I made almost 50 years ago On old real to real video about the steelworkers Steelworkers who had lost the right to strike And who are pretreat pretreat Protesting this protesting that they're not able to strike anymore and they The company in the union made a film 16 millimeter film to show to workers They'd bring them all down and take them into a room and make them watch this film about you know This is the way it has to be you otherwise you're gonna lose your jobs and had this racist undertones And so working with these rank and file steelworkers we made a response to that and it's really rough It's from the early days of video But a very important film that sort of changed the way a lot of votes and a lot of things that people did I have to ask kind of an off the beaten path question Because again you bring up hoop dreams People that don't know what hoop dreams is like They may have just arrived from another planet because this movie was everywhere when it came out But hoop dreams this chat and then you may have to correct me on this But we've been doing this now for about we're in our seventh season so about six and a half years You may be the first filmmaker That we've ever interviewed that has had one of his films taken by the criterion collection Mm-hmm. There was it am I correct hoop dreams is a criterion did a version of hoop dreams? Yes Yeah Ask that right there.

I've always been fascinated by criterion Back from the laser disk days, you know, I had a laser disk player I've got like four or five criteria lasers. We have some like we actually have laser Dispersions of hoop dreams from back in the day. How does I mean how does that work?

Is that something that you when when criterion says we want to issue your film as part of the criterion collection? Do you have a lot of input in that or do they kind of take it and run with it? Is it a 50 50 deal in in our case We worked very closely with them and there were a lot of keep so for instance When hoop dreams was first shown on Television I think I'm right about this, but certainly when it was shown in theaters It was you know blown up to 35 we shot it in four by three we shot it on beta cam then it was transferred to film To the 69 for that 69 for theaters.

So it would look like a theatrical film The question of what to release on the restored version for with criterion We went back to the original four by three You know compositions and it's really as we shot it and uncompress it Yeah for a more pure Yeah, it's it's well. It's how it was composed by Peter Gilbert who shot it You know, it's what he composed in the camera Then when we did it theatrically, you know He went out there and everything is reframed and you move it around We didn't it wasn't just stretched. It was more like the pan and scan.

Oh the pan scan You really are very very careful about how you make it work absolutely because I've seen that done roughly right But we that was kind of conversation we were in dialogue with criterion There was a lot of discussion with us about how That release was going to look and what should be on it and the feel of it and you know They were great partners in terms of that. Yeah, it wasn't it wasn't What happens? I won't mention a name but a series that we did a couple years ago about low-wage work and that Broadcaster went out of business, but they have an international unit and It's been showing internationally, but it's been blocked geoblocked in the US So finally it was available in the US and we were able to see and it's like oh my god They replaced our narration and they replaced all our graphics and it was like Yeah, yeah, and they didn't change the words.

It's not to change the meaning. It's just like a why would you put a different voice on it We went so much trouble casting the narrator and all of that Someone's calling me. I hope it's not Barg They're probably calling I bark just walked that way.

They may be they may be calling you upstairs I am though I can't imagine it's probably just some pests Well, you've got you've got 10 minutes until until the trials. So we need to let you go No, it's it's I'm cool. It's right upstairs.

It's it was something actually was something that had to do what I was just talking about Okay, well then we're gonna go let you do it. I don't have to do it. Oh, okay Because I was just I know that you've got we've only got a couple more minutes with you.

Yeah, so Any social media that you want to plug web sites Facebook Twitter any of that before before we let you go. Yeah, Car Tamquin is you know K-R-T-M-Q-U-I-N our website and we are every month Every month one of our films is playing on Chicago public television So everyone in Chicago can see it and every week off of our website. We are streaming one of our older films Oh, very nice So I can't I think it's maybe on beauty Which is about kind of People with genetic disabilities and how they can actually look quite beautiful photographer who works with them and You know every week a different film is streaming for free.

That's awesome right off of our website And of course we have a pretty deep catalog. We do we have 50 films, you know, and we have You know, we have a true Twitter feed and everything I don't actually tweet myself is it all linked from the website. Yeah You people could see it all on the website and there's a lot of information We have programs that we do we have a diverse voices in docs program.

We have a very developed intern program With the interns get workshops You know from every department at Cartamquan Redepartment of filmmaking over the course of their Internship and then we have a program called KTK labs where people who have a work in progress Can come and and take a look at We take a look at their film and give them real feedback, you know, not the kind of polite Oh, we like your film. It's really nice Well, we're getting the high sign. We have to let you go my friend Thank you so much for stopping by go and you've got a movie to enjoy here in about 10 minutes So all right everyone should come see the trials of Muhammad Ali about to start all right We are live at the angelic of center in downtown Dallas.

Well, I guess we're uptown, aren't we Take this mocking bird station for Dallas video fest 29 We're gonna be moving our next we also have another director who's good joining us right now west sudden How are you sir? Good? How are you man?

It's it's fast and furious tonight. I'm not gonna lie to you You're directing wake. Oh, you have directed.

It's like he's looking at film at the festival It's called wake up. It's going to be tomorrow at one o'clock. Yes Very brief description of the film so I'm gonna let you describe the film because maybe go a little deeper than what we've got in the media guide Or unless you don't want to which we got that to no, it's It's just it's about a man that Sort of thinks he has this wonderful life, but maybe it doesn't everything's just one of those movies or everything is not as it seems So and it can't give a can't say a lot because first of all, it's a short movie.

So how long is the film? It's seven minutes And it is part of the big D mobile film mobile phone fest Right. Well, that's the interesting thing that I'm actually one of the programmers for the big D mobile phone film festival.

So This is our third year running and every year we make a film just in case Nobody nobody we got one waiting in the wings right and we don't actually we don't get to approve it We approve all the other films. We do all the other selections But Bart Weiss actually does the selection if he doesn't like it it doesn't go in and we're gonna say this a thousand times in the next two shows Bart Weiss quality human being one of our favorite people He is he's a great guy and so he has to approve that you know this year. He liked our film, but So yeah tomorrow at one p.m Here at the Angelica will have the big D mobile film festival and what's cool about that is all these films are shot on They're only shot on cell phones So they can't use any other equipment has to be all shot on that it can be edited on computers But you have to do the original footage shooting with a phone and every This year we got about 40 entries from all over the world Oh wow and Bart really loves it because it it is how it's It's the most you know Getting things from all over the world like we get from Ireland and Russia and Spain and And the technology has moved so fast like I was watching something the other day Now I want to say it was a football practice press conference and everybody just had their cell phones Whether they were hooked up to devices that had boom mics on them or they were just holding their cell phones up Like that's the thing now exactly Well, and that's what we're really trying to do is to you know It's the democratizing of making films where you don't have to have a lot of fancy equipment and anybody can make one and we're really trying to reach out to like Younger people like the you know kids and teenagers and like that where You know if I was a kid.

That's what I would say if I had a cell phone when I was a child I would have never done anything else. I would just made movies all the time and how you know You did this Steven Spielberg and Sam Raimi and those guys that they had eight millimeter Cameras and they used to make films and that was really hard and expensive and all that but now you can whip up your iPhone and have 1080p Some even do 4k which is really amazing. Yeah, and you can edit on the fly almost You can you can edit it in your phone or put it on your iPad or shoot with your iPad So tomorrow all of these films are like I said shot with the cell phone and they're really summarizing things There's a couple of them that are actually music videos Uh, the rest of them are all narrative type things and they have to be under seven minutes that we do limit the time on those Uh, but we got to really it's really hard to make the decision because we had such great you know The and then we are going to pick a best of show so there will be it best of overall winner that we'll get a Small trophy and so how many I'm sorry.

I my mind blanked out on me How many films are in the competition this year? Well, we have 14 that'll be screened okay out of 40 So we had 14 that'll be showing but we had a 40 that we had to select from which is really good And like I said one of our film is just a little short and though the wake up again is just where a man he You know he gets up in the morning and everything seems to be just like an idyllic kind of life But yet again everything's not as it seems and we really did a technique when we were filming it to do a specific Again, I don't want to give that away a little too much, but we did a specific way of filming it So that also adds to the interest So it's not just your standard, you know master close-up close-up. Yeah, it's we did a little bit differently So that was sort of it we challenged ourselves to sort of do something like that and a lot of these music videos or I'm sorry Just the videos themselves I mean they're they're really quite good.

I mean you wouldn't you when they've had like feature films now that have been shot You know iPhones. There was a movie Tangerine That was actually I think it was a academy award nominated or had you know So you can do a lot of amazing things and again, it's not you don't have to have the latest Best expensive equipment you just need to be able to tell a story and that's the whole thing about the big demobile phone film festival It's a mouthful But is it you know just we want people to tell stories and we want you to send them to us and then like said This is a third year and hopefully we'll have a good turnout. So and Chad you're not allowed to steal his hat Just so you know, yeah, I appalled that as soon as he came walking down here to the to the lounge So is there anything while you're here before we have to let you go anything that you want to promote that you're doing any projects You've got coming up any social media that you want people to go to Well, they can always my my Twitter is at jwestern 007 And I'm the same thing on Instagram and I do have several projects I do feature films and I do shorts So I have a feature film right now that's it's in production.

It's actually in post-production now called Aztec versus the prowler And it's a throwback to the 60s Lucha wrestling films where the lucha the lucha russia you have my attention is fighting a not a monster I'll just say that sort of a monster kind of a guy, but it is a very When we have real wrestlers we have a lot of wrestlers from the WWE we have I don't even know all the different wrestling There's a the lady that produced it. We have a the rider was it was very familiar He wrote a comic book. So this is another thing where it's the movies based on a comic book That we've translated to a movie and that that'll probably be out the first thing early 2017 Wrestling is one of our four tastes on this show So we had actual wrestling matches that are in the movie that we filmed there's some I don't even know what the names of them are but they're in the metriplex They have these you know professional match wrestling matches and we filmed some of that and then the lead is actually a wrestler His name is ASCII And it's that the what's interesting of all the the bad guy And I don't give way too much, but you never really see the bad guy And he's like the most famous wrestler of all the guys in the movie and it's sort of ironic.

You don't actually see his face But he is the so yeah, it should be really you know entertaining and it's it sounds like a lot of fun Yeah, we shot it up in Sherman at like a haunted house. It was like a abandoned It's kind of actually extra creepy because it was an abandoned haunted house. Oh, that's like creepy on top of creepy Right, so I don't do haunted houses.

That's just that I have a short that's a what so It's a webisode called find me and we've already released the first one We're gonna release two more But it's kind of an anthology as that every three or four episodes It then it will change but it's gonna be a webisode and where can that be is that on YouTube or it's just on its own website or That would it sounds well No, the website's not set up yet. It's okay, but the interesting thing about that too with film festivals are being more accepting now like What episodes? Oh, absolutely.

You know inner inner entire webisodes and things like that So I have that and but again like so the main thing is if people aren't doing anything tomorrow at 1 p.m To come out to the angelica and see some amazing films that were shot on cell phones. All right Thank you so much for joining us, sir That is West Sutton director of wake up part of the big D mobile phone film festival I got it done. I got it all done.

Okay. Okay You are listening to the clubhouse podcast. Thank you so much Make sure you check out our website www.theclubhousepodcast.com Make sure you check out all of our social media You can check the clubhouse podcast all three words on both Facebook and Instagram our Twitter feed is at clubhouse show Keep you up to date with everything we're at the angelica tonight We're gonna be back at the angelica Sunday during our normal showtime slot at seven Eastern four Pacific Helping wrap up Dallas video fest 29 our fourth year Doing this sir Four it's it's almost old enough to go into kindergarten.

It is This show has been called kindergarten Just saying all right. We have two more. We have a co-director I haven't even had a chance to get into the media guide because don't just got people coming to us so fast Which is a good thing because it means other people get to talk and they don't have to listen to us on our yaps So we're gonna let you guys introduce yourselves make sure you talk right into those microphones so everybody can hear you Okay, my name is Alex Fawse.

I'm one of the producer and the director of the big secret motion picture and I'm Susan Downes producer and director as well All right, well since I have not had a chance to look this up tell me about the film please Okay, well the film is You know, it's sort of a personal journey for me for I was Trying to improve my health and I started doing all the study on Things that would be affecting our health and I hope some shocking revelations basically Fortunately, I have I have a doctor here an md Susan Downes. I just saw that in the media guide She kind of left that out of her answer. She's a doctor to use it.

Yeah, yeah So and she's just playing one on TV she really is one Yes, I'm a radio talk show host for voice America as well. Now see and see this is the kind of stuff we want We want to know everything but go ahead and serve. I'm sorry.

Well basically, you know, I started Trying to figure out why My health was bad and the doctors weren't helping me. It's a matter of fact they were making me sicker and so I went on my own study journey where I was trying to figure out why things worked with my health and and I came up with these Starling revelations like you know, they they told me to take these statin drugs the statin drugs were making me sicker and And so you know, I discovered I already had Low cholesterol. They were giving me statin drugs.

It made my cholesterol go dangerously low I learned that actually cholesterol is healthy and necessary for you Your brain is made out of cholesterol. So if you don't Have enough cholesterol you get dementia and you have all kinds of other problems. And so that was one thing.

I Had I developed you know at a younger age to develop cataracts and I had to have surgery for My cataracts. I had a lens replaced in one eye and and then six months later I was supposed to have another lens put in and then I ran into dr. Glidden and he gave me a idea about taking certain minerals and vitamins and so the eye that didn't have the surgery Cleared up and it's still got a cataract but it cleared up to the point where I could see through it correctly And there's just a plethora of things that I started studying and learning about and so I'd like to turn this over to Susan You probably give us a veteran side on that then I mean yeah Were you involved from the from the beginning of this quest or did you come in at a certain point during his journey?

I was lucky enough to come in at a certain point It's just very good luck that we ran into each other But I would like to emphasize that everything he's saying is correct our current alapathy system is Focus on finding an element and then finding a pill to Mass the symptoms you create new ones a kind of a system a pill for now and does that service well There's a new branches of medicine functional medicine where you can look at the cause of what's going on You can look at the pathways of everything going on in the body You can figure out what's going the wrong direction and then through certain supplements good lifestyle choices You could direct it in a more healthy way and I think that's a much better way to go more prevention rather than sick care or disease management You see I was I was a filmmaker for a long time. I have five Emmy awards I was gonna say something else you glossed over but I looked at an immediate guide five Emmys Okay, this is another first night sir. We have some we had a filmmaker who's had we dealt with the criterion collection We got an Emmy winner sitting right here a multiple Emmy five of them this many And so I said, you know, this is something that that I really need to do a film about because I didn't know about it You know, I was stuck in the world saying well, I'm gonna believe whatever my doctor tells me and I'm not blaming the doctors They all have a good idea, but they're being given false information from people Higher up the drug companies and so forth and it I found out it was a money thing and this the System was sort of set up where they could make money off of me being sick And what I what I learned is when I started taking the right vitamins And that's it sounds like a cliche, but minerals in the right proportion the right the right things your body needs to run properly and I used to have Allergies I lived with allergies.

I would have a cold maybe once a month at least have a flu twice You know maybe twice three times a year once I started giving myself what I needed In the right proportions and then not eating the things which were poisonous then All of a sudden I'm not getting colds. I'm not having allergy problems as severely. I'm a lot healthier Now I still have a long way to go and I I lost like 40 pounds Over you know, I was way overweight and then I learned things that you know what what makes us overweight?

Well, what makes us overweight is we're starving the The food doesn't have the nutrients in it that we're supposed to and I'm gonna let Susan elaborate because I made it be getting I may be getting that wrong, but I'm laughing because she's got to look like he was doing so well And I was gonna hand it off to me. She shook her hand. I said oh, I did something wrong See, I'm still learning and fortunately I have all these experts.

We have Dr. Glidden coming in and he's going to be for the show Sunday night for the show Sunday night outstanding and but basically Learning that you don't eat certain things right and you want to elaborate on what's in the food that's bad? She's an expert.

Oh Yeah, right up on that microphone so you know it's so much enough food. It's not healthy for us processed foods all sorts of chemicals Toxins I mean grain fed meats have antibiotics hormones and insecticides in it I mean as mercury and a lot of the fish and just our environment has a lot of toxins I mean flame retardants on couches and everywhere we go even electromagnetic fields for our cell phones And this all contributes to the health that we get something called inflammation oxidative stress and mitochondria Don't react well and everything just starts going on a downward spiral for example autism It used to be one out of 10,000 maybe back in the 60s now. It's one out of 40 A lot of that is due to environmental factors.

I mean studies have shown to you know Certain toxins increase the likelihood of this and it's going to be affecting all of us because all these increase the inflammation and oxidative stress Which leads to diseases a healthy gut is essential what we put in our mouth is essential Lifestyle getting enough sleep stress reduction diet exercise very important as for fat Um, I don't have all the answers here. I hadn't heard about starving, but It depriving us of the proper minerals and then one of the problems with fat is it's where all the toxins get stored So all these toxins end up in our fat system and it makes it harder to get rid of it And then if you do reduce the fat then these toxins might come out For example women when they get older and when they have osteoporosis lead comes out of the bones with it So they're more susceptible to certain diseases at that time Now Alex, let me ask you the question that you you co-directed this right the journey that you're on with this How hard was it for you to see through those lenses what you were going through as you watched back what you were filming? Well, I actually look at pictures of myself from a year ago And I can see that I actually look better today.

I have a long way to go um But You know, it's it'll be covered a lot of basic things like I had you know when the doctor's giving me um, what I call Staten drugs which we lots of times call Alzheimer's drugs because in many cases We're showing in the film that statin drugs lead to Alzheimer's disease or to dementia um Among other things and and so you know you learn that the glyphosate when when the agribusiness farming came in two things happened one The nutrients started Going out of the foods and so you would get foods that basically had no minerals and vitamins and they just had empty carbs in many cases and then When they took the minerals out over time you're getting glyphosate which is Roundup which is a weed killer so you you make plants that are impervious to glyphosate and so they thrive but they absorb the right glyphosate the roundup and then you eat it and your body It's not designed for that and then you get the pesticides and so you're getting all these toxins you did so the the food in the 1970s and 60s Totally different than the food you're getting now absolutely So yeah, and I would like to add a little bit the statins deplete a very important antioxidant called coq 10 Which you need for your mitochondria energy production and without that everything starts going south You can lead to cardiovascular disease dementia when I was in London airport big headlines statins lead to dementia on the newspapers in the stands and also the glyphosate I think they found studies that it has changed some of the DNA within our gut and the bacteria in our gut the microbiome is extremely important All right, this to me is a horror show of this GMO sliding through and being put in our food without us even having knowledge of it And the film tomorrow I'm sorry Sunday night. I didn't learn to read at 7 30 correct is this the first showing of the film has filmed the show before so the world premiere here at the angelica Sunday night I'm assuming Q&A after the film. Yes, and where does it are you taking the other places from here?

Do you have a schedule to any other shows because we're all over the world. So we want to make sure We've submitted to a lot of places Um so far we've only been accepted here We're hoping that we get a lot more film festivals that accept us Uh, but we're at the beginning. This is a premiere and so we'll see how good you picked a good one for for to be your first one This is this is a great festival.

Have you had any time to to see any of their films or have you just gotten here and getting settled? I saw I saw one on Tuesday night Tuesday night. Yeah.

Oh, you went to the to the yellow premiere. Yes. Yes for sunrise.

Yes. Isn't it awesome? How do we do that?

Awesome and then and also The one about the rebirth of a nation last night. I love that. Yes.

That was great One of the things I love about video fest is there is it's so off the beaten path a lot of what they do Right, and so you get to see things like we've seen things that years down the road have done well And to be able to say that you got to see it first. It's kind of cool Well, I think you know, this is a very special place because They will give filmmakers an opportunity Uh, a lot of film festivals they have to see someone that's been successful at like five or six other festivals and And they won't they're not willing to take risks. We had one of our Submissions rejected because we're talking about fluoridation of water And the city was was involved with the film festival and they said no, we're not going to do it with the Talking about fluoridation I'll let me add a little bit about fluoridation is that the fluoride that we put in a mouth and the mercury in our teeth the murky for example I mean you could with certain cameras see pictures of it kind of evaporating and it goes toward the brain and you know mercury Talks is it can be a risk for heart disease and all sorts of things So that these they're putting these things in our mouth yet there are labeled as hazardous waste That if a dentist has to get rid of them I've got to put it in special containers and you know put it in a special place But it's okay to put it in our mouth.

I mean fluoride helps if you put it on the tooth directly It does some really good things But it doesn't stay on the tooth very long when it's in our water supply So before we let you go Websites social media. We're all about shameless self promotion on this show So tell working people get to you working people learn more about the film and maybe even reach out to you If they want to have you as part of their festivals the big the big secret calm and the trailers there and you can also find us on YouTube and the big secret movie and it's actually the big secret movie calm And we have a facebook page It's a big secret a big secret You know the guide for the new millennium and so you can find out where we're going to be and all the latest information will be there All right, it's good. It's got any direct questions.

They can send me an email at susan at susandownsmd.com calm okay The big secret Sunday night 730 is going to be theater 7 which that's a real. I like that house a lot It's it's kind of a medium-sized house So it's not too small and it's not too big. I think it's going to be a really good house for a film like this Because it's going to kind of enough of an intimate setting But enough that you can get quite a few people in there So that'll be pretty much closing out the festival because I'll be one of the last show So that's a big thing with q and a afterwards.

Thank you guys so much for joining us go enjoy yourselves Thank you. Thank you. You are listening to the call of house podcasts We are live at the Angelica Film Center at Mockingbird station for Dallas video fest 29 sir And then we'll be back Sunday for our normal show We got a lot going on man And then next week how on a celebrate show Where we'll be in the what we're calling the yoke studio because we'll be in the studio But we'll probably all be sitting on the floor together Oh while we're waiting for Don to get this next thing set up We'll talk about TV on DVD and Blu-ray that's come out this week.

I know. I'm just going to do this real quick Downton Abbey the complete series Oh, yeah, I thought this guy looks familiar um Mr. Selfridge was another thing my wife was a big fan of the complete series there The night of the very highly acclaimed HBO series hit DVD and Blu-ray this week.

Oh, okay, okay with With John Tuturo season four of Bates Motel Power Rangers Dino Thunder the complete series and the complete series of the spectacular spider-man Which one was that that was the animated one that was really popular there for a while what what I mean was it the 80s one was at the No, it's the it's the MTV one. I think all the one had Lisa lobe is Mary Jane See then they take me in my happy place and I want to say you know about my unhealthy crush on Lisa lobe And local ties once I came up a conversation earlier today and I was very how you doing wasn't it wasn't it Neil Patrick Harris that was the voice of I think so crush on What makes a crush unhealthy That I probably shouldn't crush on her as hard as I do because my wife gets upset sometimes But why is that unhealthy? For my health that my wife knows Princess the crush.

Yeah, it is I've been a crush and I did the friend of the show Marcus Blake just walking in Marcus good to see you brother We have a return guest sir. Oh hold on okay hold on how often do I get to say hi on the show during I was talking to my No, but I'm just saying hi and all that okay speaking my health unhealthy crush is I got your Christmas gift me I have no idea what it is the same one we've done for four years just saying joining us because Probably for a lot of the same reasons he did last year and the year before and the year before four years in a row four years in a row What I think this this you may be the only person that can claim that I'm going to put it out there to the universe outside of chat. I think you're the only person that can claim Alan Holtzman this year.

We've already talked about the project you're here for Bart was on with us at the beginning of the show Oh, how cool. I am ready for this This I'm going to let you talk about it because I think this is beyond cool Well Frank Capra is The he won you know only John Ford is one more Academy Awards than John then Frank Capra and he started in the silent years He was working for Max Senate and Max Senate said I don't want any No pens and paper He paired people to go he was a gag Gagwriter and they worked in pairs and they had to come into his office and make him laugh and if they made him laugh He went out and and shot it and Frank Capra has an amazing understanding of the human experience and he when start starting in comedy Analyze the four types of comedians One is speed which Harry Langdon represented two is stoicism which buster Keaton represented very well three is With which Charlie Chaplin represented also very well and four is Harry Langdon who was the man child which he directed who he He directed his Harry Langdon's first three features and people I mean You say the name Frank Capra People should know that name because every year it's probably starting here in about a month You're going to be inundated with one of his films a little thing called. It's a wonderful life I remember the first time I saw it's a wonderful life I was in New York City in a little apartment and I had a little black and white TV that had like a Three by five inch screen I also I also watched the Bobby Fisher board spaskey match.

Oh my god I was Shelby Lyman doing the big chess board. I don't know if you ever saw that but you have been but um Uh, and I saw it's a wonderful life and I cried like watching this little screen. I couldn't stop watching it But his first move his first movie that got him fame was it happened one night That's picture winner and that started the buddy movie the romantic comedy It was it's set the hall hall hallmark for In which you're going to be doing tomorrow at 345 Is really really neat talk about like I'm trying to imagine What that's going to be like because like that bark talked about it a little bit at the top of the show But apparently you guys have unearthed some some footage that you've been able to use with some of his film footage Yes, I About 15 years ago.

I was a grad graduate from the American film film institute And while I was there they had the Harold Lloyd seminars and Harold Lloyd left money for AFI To do master seminars and these were seminars that are very unique In that there's no moderator It's the students and the film filmmaker in a living room at the at the dohenny mansion in Beverly Hills And what the students did was they spent anywhere from a week to two weeks prior to the filmmaker Coming to watch all of his or her movies And so that the film the students were informed when asking the filmmaker Question so about 15 years ago. I called AFI And I asked you know, do you have any of those interviews? I knew that some of them were recorded and they said yes, but they're in horrible shape You don't want to trust me.

They're terrible. And you said challenge accepted And I said please let me see what I do. I do and so they said okay come take whatever you want So I went to the last words right I got to take a real one.

It was actually in a closet And they weren't even stacked neatly. They were just thrown in So I took What was available which was Hitchcock Truffaut, Spielberg, Capper and John Houston. Oh, that's right cuz that was Hitchcock last year Uh-huh And so it wasn't bad shape I'm not going to deny that And but I restored it as much as I couldn't with the digital age that allows you to abreast stuff And they were like little black video lines that will come through often And so I worked out a technique where I could take that frame out and substitute the prior frame And so since the camera wasn't moving and it's a headshot bait basically you can't really tell that a frame is missing So I did my best to restore it and but I used all of his movies to represent what he was talking about So it's just Frank Kapper in his message that he's leaving behind How long is it?

It's an hour I just I can't even like this is blowing my mind like when you were going through this Do you how many times did you just sit there and go this is this is really happening this is a thing Like because you know you get to do Hitchcock now you get to do Frank Capra That if you hadn't raised your voice 15 years ago these may have never been found and they may have been watched forever Do you get to take these around the country or just smaller festivals like that? I used them to teach with I teach at USC. I'm an adjuk.

I mean I'm a professional editor But I and I teach I've taught at USC for the last 10 10 10 10 years and along a little I'm teaching editing I teach editing as film filmmaking editors as filmmakers So they have to understand the directors and I have screenings at different schools It's not the most popular thing in the world But I do I know I wish I could show them were often, you know But I'm I'm making these things and I don't really have the opportunity or the amount of Support to market them but I think the important thing is to make them and make and They're available so if someone says I I did have a I did try to get on the university circuit and it's very difficult without an agent But I do have actually 24 hours. I did this other thing creating media to teach media And so I've been making movies about editing production design and directing for the last 20 years and I did this because originally because I was a pretty severe stutterer And I've overcome that but I wanted to I was I didn't think I didn't have the confidence that I could lecture about everything And I wanted to say so I found these great film filmmakers who I loved and and agreed with and and you let them do it for me Plus I'm expressing using the art of editing to express what they have to say Is this with all the other filmmakers that you've been able to get this footage on are you do you is there a plan to For lack of a better term make this into a series for you. Well, it already is a series Okay, so I have, you know true foe Spielberg.

Oh, so you did it was already. Oh, yes And I was sure those were ones you had that you hadn't been able to mess with you. No, that's good Yeah, was it true foe two years ago?

I was did true foe two years ago Okay, and then last year I had previously I didn't show it here But I did one with Hitchcock and Spielberg. That's how I started Okay, and then and then because true foe reference Spielberg and Hitchcock and Spielberg reference true foe And Spielberg is like the descendant of Hitchcock the three together were an amazing, you know chemistry Uh, and so um and prior to that I didn't want on Sheldon Leonard who was a TV director producer and So I have this series that could be referred to as the art of directing which I do refer to you guys So some more oh wait a minute. No, I know I would love to see him profile If you're gonna do like this the true foe and well True foe and Spielberg kind of referencing each other.

I would love to see Kurosawa and Lucas especially right now, but they they didn't give that interview I have to say All right now with the new magnificent seven which What a wonderful film. Have you seen it? It's so much fun.

It's literally leave your brain at the door Take two hours of your life and just have fun It's we've talked about it with some of our our Partnership shows like the movie brothers. We did talk to them about it and It the new ones not he's right. It's not as heavy as the original magus nificent seven Nothing's ever going to be seven samurai, but this is a good fun film That it's it's for a genre that's one of my favorite genres that is really Taking a hit in the last decade the western It's Westworld is bringing it back room.

I've watched the first episode and I'm completely hooked You know, but here's something that would ship you out I was the editor on battle be on the stars for Roger Korn. What? I'd love that movie.

I love that I've even written a book about it. I kept the journal while working on it. This is like one of my favorite people We've ever spoken to And one that keeps coming back and keep coming back every time please So whether you have a project or not keep going back battle beyond the source was written by John John sales right and it was intended to be a rip off of seven samurai and Met the magnificent seven in fact Robert Vaughan who was in the magazine The magazine seven was cast for that and when we went I wouldn't saw it at the end I haven't we haven't talked about this.

I went and saw Magnificent seven at The Alamo and the Alamo does a custom pre-show for the movie you're seeing I don't know where this is because I have to find it apparently in the 70s They did a movie that was just called the seven Which is a 70s version of the magnificent seven boy and like Kate Jackson's in it Was it like a schlock fest? Oh, it's it's but there's like people of note in this film. I'm like I have to see this But yeah, that'll be on the stars.

I love that movie so much Okay, we're gonna have we need to let you go so as you enjoy the festival, but as we always do I don't want to let him go though You don't have to let me go I don't have to save all Shameless self-promotion just like we do every year. I don't need shameless self-promotion I don't know where it's going But website how can people get hold of you? I think you can get a hold of me a-l-l-a-n dot h-o-l-z-m-a-n at gmail.com or Send us something to the Dallas Film Festival for forward it.

I do have everything I make on demio with the Password and I'm happy to give that that out to whoever privately wants to do it. I think this thing tomorrow is gonna be awesome I just oh, I'm intrigued and every every year Bring some of these here and we every year like this Okay, this is the one that he goes to raise the bar on you I just want to tell you one little quick story about Frank Capra. He and when he've had his first Feature he he loved it and it played well on screenings and the editing room and screen screening rooms But when he had it before an audience it was slow And he couldn't explain it he couldn't understand why because the performances were right So then he went from then on He had all his actors talk faster Faster and more intense Where's that before and the other thing is that he really respected the first take so he wouldn't let the actors You know rehearse he had table readings and discussions But he he let them let out the steam in that first take and he said 75% of the time he used that for first take Wasn't it wasn't Gabel's performance in that film that he directed him in wasn't Gabel's portrayal of this guy that was eating a carrot the basis for Bugs Bunny Oh, I don't know.

I heard that I've heard that for a long time Wow that that they based the entire persona of Bugs Bunny around Gabel's performance in that film You know now, but when I have those old Bugs Bunny cartoons and I let's see him and I had I see it if you go in with the big eyes In the big you know, he's he's in all his Clark Gabelness and you on a grey suit one look great because it's black and white and He's eating a carrot and basically they just went with that image. It said go That's how we want our rabbit to look can't you just see Bugs Bunny saying frankly my dear I believe that scene actually has played that scene in my head a hundred times All right, well, I would do want to talk about one quick thing Before we let Alan go because I don't know if you saw but today or within the last 24 hours The nominations for the 2017 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame inductees. Oh, yes, has been let out If you want to feel old kids Listen to this list because I got the entire list for you.

Oh, I know. I've already voted up for induction this year bad brains punk band Uh-huh very some people know who they are the cars Because remember to be eligible for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. It's 25 years from the release of your first single I got a pretty good idea who you're saving for last if you're doing it.

It's alphabetical. Okay. Okay Uh Shaka Khan Shaka Khan.

Let me rock you let me rock you shaka Khan. Stop it. Shaka Khan's in my limo Okay Don doesn't know how to let go of things.

I'm just saying uh Sheek up again because remember they were nominated last year right. Yeah, I was I was talking to somebody online about that For somebody's not thought now I'll win it on his own someone that chat has gone to 19 different computers and voted for The Depeche mode have only voted twice I just finished editing a documentary called dare to be different That's about the radio station W L. I.

R They're broke all the new wave bands from England and and and New York and the uh 80s Uh-huh see he has your attention. Um, I knew I knew this was the right guy to have for this ELO And it is actually an archival clip of someone on TV introducing them on TV in America and he called them Depeche mode Depeche mode What are we making music for you? Is our music enough?

Are we funny? Are we funny like clowns? People of people so why should it be ELO J Giles band up this year James addiction that one kind of made me feel old that they're up Joan Baez Janet Jackson Janet Jackson Yes, I'm just saying Joe Tex Uh, let's see journey.

Why are they not in? I don't know it's it's it's another one of those groups that probably comes up and they just don't Doc what Doc because they're on a journey. That's true.

Doc will be happy because craft work I love the show work when they first came to America and they had the most amazing show because they specialize in video They were the ones who broke the the Use the video with rock and roll and I think they were just in town. Yeah, they're still touring in front I saw people saying I they just saw them last week and they're still blowing them away MC5 the motor city five right Pearl jam Pearl jam is eligible for the rock and roll hall of fame. You're something that will date me I marched with and I was in the front line in 1965 the first march against Washington March against the war in Vietnam in Washington and I was in the front line and once I was Bob Dylan the other side was Joan but And Bob Dylan every 15 talk about him very first songwriter to win a Pulitzer prize This week for his work no no bell That no bell.

That's right man my brain is fried and I saw a headline on CNN that they couldn't find him three days ago Well, they said he's touring because they they're trying to get him to the ceremony in December But his tour schedule like he hasn't even said anything about it. It's just he's Bob Dylan. Well, I'm a Bob Dylan fanatic my my mother in fact called him Bob Dylan Steppenwolf up this year Tupac but that's sink in and on that Yes, why are they not in And for the second year in a row the zombies are up which I thought they would have gotten in last year But I mean that's very seminal in my personal opinion, but that's just me.

Can I do one shameless self-promotion? Absolutely It's for Bob Dylan He has a and I live in Los Angeles in Santa Monica and he has a coffee shop called the 18th Street Cafe and he bought the whole block And in that block is the coffee shop a boxing gym where he works out and his synagogue Real that's he he has a boxing gym There's a picture in the coffee shop with him with my Muhammad Ali I'm just trying to picture that in my head just him working a heavy A heavy punching bag. That's kind of surreal.

I saw him like three three years ago He actually moved his knee and people applaud it And then two years ago he stopped using the guitar because I think he has back problems So he's on keyboards. He's an amazing keyboard player and in between songs he ran around the keyboard to keep his circulation When I was show I saw he did he'd never even ran around the keyboard when I was a kid Nashville skyline was in heavy rotation in the house. I have a story But I went to college at Bennington, which was in all girl school and two people died in a car crash And it was a really sad moment and Nashville skyline came out that weekend And everyone was playing it every when you walk by it was the area to me that is the album right where I think Bob Dylan That's the album I don't want to have and I'll send this to you if you email me I have the rehearsals of Johnny Cash and Bob Dylan All the outticks.

It's amazing. Just just get it right down right it down right it down Right down right now. I'm trying We just Halloween.

I'm going as Bob Dylan. I can't wait till I unveil my my Halloween shirt on the wall Because this is I'm proud of this one, but we also have someone else joining us. That's also Part of the big D-mobile film phone fest.

I'm going to let you introduce yourself sir My name is Adi Spector And the it's called a miracle of Hanukkah correct correct. So you part of the big D-mobile film fest you The requirements you had to film it on your phone Definitely, that's my actually second film as a director That I used an iPhone to to make but this is actually the fourth film. I'm involved as a filmmaker and actor in In the films made with an iPhone actually how long is the film this film is seven minutes.

It's a short film So it's part of the part of the we had the One of the curators of your particular competition here a little while ago Forty submissions. They they brought 17 of them. Oh nice to the festival.

So you kind of been pretty good company right now Yeah, thank you A man arrives home early from a business trip to celebrate the first day of Hanukkah and he finds a supernatural surprise Is that as deep as you want to go? Yes, because it's a comedy You know it's seven minutes It's tomorrow at 1 p.m If I give away too much it's not going to be fun anymore because you will expect the unexpected fair enough Uh, are you guys going to be doing a Q&A after I think so we haven't spoken about that But it seems like that's that's how this festival works after each Screening if the filmmaker is present it do Q&A is afterwards. What brought you to want to do this?

um Well You mean as a filmmaker um Do you ask me what What why I'm making films on an iPhone or what I'm making films that I want to make film just in general Well, I'm an actor actually. I'm an actor and been doing it for a long time. I'm I'm originally from Poland.

I live in LA right now and when you know in between the auditions and between the the jobs I didn't want to work I didn't want to wait for somebody to call me so I started to produce my own things and then slowly I wanted to have more control as you know what the outcome would be artistically speaking um and content speaking that so I started to write my own And then produce direct and actually acting it as well So I cast myself in different roles that I would actually be playing Uh in Hollywood for that matter How many films have you made? Oh, not necessarily acted in but made yourself Uh as a director or To this is my second one the previous one actually was in this film festival last year. Oh, there we go Yeah, it was the name the name of the film was how to rob a house I just couldn't come here because I've another festival Participate in LA at the same time and that film actually won bunch of awards too.

We got the best clip award in Barcelona We got second place on iPhone film festival in Beverly Hills runner up award in San Diego then There is an app that we use to shoot it on the knife one. It's called filmic pro So uh, we won the early bird competition uh last year and the last award for that one was actually um because it's a film about the vampire So I sent it to the vampire from first about in Transylvania Nice. That's a thing.

That's just everything. There is a thing And you know apparently it's very famous because when I told some people about oh yeah, we know about that It's such a big deal and I mean yeah, it makes sense. I just never would have thought that it would actually exist Yeah, it's the age of the internet if you can imagine it that's out there Yeah, it's it's a bad reason by film and art festival so everything about the vampires is there Wow, and it takes place in the castle where Dracula was born So that makes it even more yeah I heard on the radio that they're actually booking people that you can spend Halloween night in that castle It's been all over Facebook this week.

Uh, I believe the three words I would use are no thank you. Oh, I mean I'd be all over that mount So was this your first time here? Uh, first time here.

Just want to finish um, we got a silver steak award Ha ha ha ha Nice which is the second place international. So it's a big deal that has to go on the mantle. So what's first?

Golden garlic, no, the golden spike the golden step Yeah, that has to be a piece on the mantle I don't think he's seen the one sheet for this film that you're talking about yet. Is this a thing Don was talking to you? That one.

Oh this one. Yeah. Yeah, America of Hanula.

Yeah. It's a controversial film. That's the thing.

Yeah Yeah, it's actually actually premiered in Warsaw in LGBT Film Festival, and yeah, it was shown in five or six different cities on a big screen last April. So your first time here in general? I've never been to Texas.

Welcome. Thank you so much. Are you staying through the whole weekend?

I'm staying till Sunday. Okay. So you're staying through the weekend?

Yes. I'll be here tomorrow for the screening obviously. And the Sunday I'm flying back.

Are you going to be doing any touristy things while you're here? Well, the state fair is going on right now, right at the street. Where?

The state fair of Texas. It's just on the other side of 30 from where we are right now. Really?

And this is the last weekend. Okay. You want a true microcosm of what it's like to eat in Texas.

That's it. That's where you need to go. That's where you go.

Okay. I actually believe it or not. My sister came from LA tonight.

Okay. So they're going to pick me up with the car and I think that's where we're going to go. Yeah.

The state fair is awesome. It really is. I am, not just because I live here, but the state fair of Texas is true like he says.

You really want to understand Texas. That is the thing because there's so much to see and do. And of course, it's a gorgeous night tonight.

It's absolutely beautiful night. The rain's already coming gone, so you're good there. Right.

What's going to be next for you? Well, I'm working on a feature film right now. Just write in it.

Okay. This film got into Miami short film festival International short film festival in Miami, November. So I'm flying to be there with the film.

I'm from that area. I'm actually from the water. Wow.

Nice. Never been to Miami either. Yeah.

It's an experience, my friend. It's like whenever I fly, it seems like I fly out of the United States, Europe, Australia, you know, passing over all the other places that you know, you know, you were to buy the tickets a few extra hours, you know. And so before we let you go, because you know, we wanted to let you go enjoy the evening because you said you got people coming in.

Thank you so much. Website, social media, plug it all. Okay.

So I'm on everything. I'm on Facebook, which is a de-spector official. That's my fan page.

That's a-d-i-s-p-k-t-o-r. S-p-e-k-t-o-r. Oh, I missed that.

And don't say S-p-e-k-t-o-r. Oh, I missed that. And don't say S-p-e-k-t-o-r.

O-r. O-r. O-r.

Then same thing on Instagram, on Twitter, I'm a de-spector, again, a-d-i-s-p-k-t-o-r. I have a website, a-d-i-s-p-k-t-o-r.com. And that's pretty much the social media.

Well, best of luck to you tomorrow. Thank you so much. And go enjoy your evening, sir.

We'll do. Thank you so much for the evening. Thank you for sitting with us.

You are listening to the Clubhouse podcast. We are live Dallas Video Fest 29, our fourth year. We're having a great time.

And we're going to have a great time when we come back Sunday evening for our normal show, Seven Eastern Four Pacific. We got a lot of stuff coming up, man. We got a lot going on.

I'm so far behind on our social media feed because the Wi-Fi here is giving me. That's why I've had to tether from my phone, sir. We got just a little bit longer, but that we're going to be here.

And then we're going to go enjoy our evening as well. Because, man, it's gorgeous. I love this time of year.

And it's actually fall weather. We had a nice little downpour, what was it yesterday morning? No, it was overnight.

Was it yesterday morning? It was yesterday, it was like very early yesterday morning, right before, right before sun up. And it just completely drenched everything.

And then it was just gone by noon. It's like, did it ever actually rain because there was not a cloud in this guy? Oh, no.

It was raining on me yesterday on the way to work, but today. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Today was gorgeous.

It's almost like it kind of helped cool things off even more. So it's like a really moderate temperature outside. Light jacket weather at best.

Some music new releases that came out today that you might be interested in. David Crosby with a new album called Lighthouse, not a David Crosby fan, so that in my will. But you acknowledge him.

Yes, I acknowledge him. Right. Jimmy E.

World has returned. Really? Yes, with an album called Integrity Blues, corn with a new album today.

I thought they were dying. Called the Serenity of Suffering. The new Lady Gaga.

Called Joanne. Very interested in this small dive bar tour that she's doing. Yeah.

Leonard Cohen, which was a band, not the person. Called you wanted darker. Ronnie Dunn, formerly a Brooks and Dunn, with a solo album today called Tattooed Heart Pretenders, who are going to be here a week from Sunday, opening for Stevie Nicks.

They have a new album out today called Alone and the original cast recording of Lazarus. The Bowie thing, that comes with three new unreleased Bowie tracks, is available today as well. Don, what you got for me?

I'm back and I'm Brian. No, I'm Don. What?

I have no idea what just happened here. If I had a tomato, I throw it at his head. I had a tomato.

I'd be having dinner at this moment. Hold on. Is that tomato in the lexicon?

Go find somebody. You did open it. He's like, you're like a sort of family guy.

You took the joke and just went way too far with it. Very interested in our next guest. And I'm going to let him introduce himself, talk right into that thing, sir.

Hello. I'm. You did tell him.

I did. I did tell him. A little hot mic here.

Are we good? We're good. We're good.

I'm Jeremy Teyser. I'm the co-director of Track Town, which is a feature film that's playing at Dallas Video Fest. That's what it's just, and it is playing Sunday at 2.45 in theater 2.

I'm going to let you explain this because I just read the very basic synopsis and you have my attention. So Track Town is a narrative feature film, so it's like a regular movie, about an hour and a half. And it's about a really sheltered star runner who's trying out for the Olympics for the first time.

And she has to take a day off between the prelims and the finals. And she's never taken a day off before. And this causes her to freak out as an athlete.

Sometimes we'll do. And we see how she handles her first day off ever. And what's really cool about this movie is that my co-director, co-writer and the star of the film is an actual Olympic athlete who ran in the Rio Olympics and all the athletes in the film are real life Olympian teammates of her.

So. So it's actually going to be my next question. Were you able to corral all these other athletes using her as the Kevin Bacon of the Olympics?

Oh, yeah. Okay. All right.

We can't prove this, but we are pretty sure that we have the most Olympians in any fiction movie. You know what? I don't know where I can dispute that, sir.

How many of them total? Oh, man. Now you're putting it on the spot.

At least. If you got a brag about it, you got to have the data. Right.

No, yeah. Well, I can say this. All 12 of the athletes in the race scene.

There's like a 5K prelim in finals action scene. These are all professional runners and then scattered throughout the film in non athletic roles. Our cameo appearances from a few Olympic medalists that track and field fans might recognize.

And you know what? I may not represent the Guinness people, but I'm signing off on that. Yes.

Most Olympians in a single film. I'm signing off on that. Okay.

Okay. How long have you taken a film? We shot over the course of about a month, but we also filmed some racing sequences several months before and again several months after principal photography because we were working around the schedules of actual Olympic athletes.

You just want to make sure you had the footage and then you can fill everything else in. Get the tough stuff done. And then we can do the stuff over here.

Well, we filmed at a huge track meet called the pre-pontane classic in Eugene, Oregon, which has huge crowds and we just got those crowd shots. And so our Olympic trial scenes are actually kind of stolen from real life track meets. What brought you to this?

So Alexi, Papis, the athlete, co-director, star is my fiance. So that kind of, that helps. We went to college together and both actually studied film and English and this is my second movie.

My first movie was not in the world of running, but you know, when you're making an indie film, one of the things that you ask yourself as an independent writer and director is what world do I have unique access to and what's a story that only I can tell. And of course, if your girlfriend is training for the Olympics, that's a unique story. So that's what got us started making track town.

You said co-director, co-writer, co-star, actually star. You spent most of them sort of behind the camera. Yeah.

Were there moments when you were writing it where she made it on this? It might be going a little bit too deep. You know, I don't think we ever had moments like where we felt like we were very careful throughout the whole thing because it's a fiction movie, but it's portraying a world that she's a part of, a community that we're both a part of, that we care a lot about and we want to represent well.

Not that we want to sugarcoat everything, but we want the people that we're portraying to be proud of it. We knew we wanted to tell a story that even if you're not a fan of track and field, if you just like sports movies or indie films, you're going to like, but if you are a track and field band, you'll feel proud of it, you'll feel like, yes, this is a movie about my community. So we definitely kept that in mind.

And I think that that sort of approach is why we ended up getting so much support, like why we were allowed to film at the pre-contained classic, which is like, you're not allowed to film that race or why we had all these Olympic athletes taking time out of their schedules to come act for us. Is this the first time it's been shown? No, the world premiere of Track Down was at the Los Angeles Film Festival in June and it's played a few festivals since then.

And Dallas is kind of a stop on our festival circuit and the film will be coming out in why to release this spring. So you do have distribution for it? Or allegedly talks are underway.

We get a lot of that when we do these. I am going to knock on wood right here, just to not jinx anything, but the contracts have been signed and we do have distribution. I can't, it's not public, we're not doing the press release hasn't happened yet, but it's happening.

And the movie's coming out. That's awesome. That's very exciting.

I'm assuming Q&A after the film tomorrow? Yes. I will be there.

Alexi is at training camp. She has her first race since the Olympics coming up, but I will be there and I am excited to talk to whoever is there. Chad, you got anything that you want to ask while we're here before we get the shameless promotion?

Was it kind of tempting to take a look around at everything that was going on in Rio and incorporate that into this film or were you just trying to avoid that altogether? Or was it pretty much done by that point though? The movie was done.

Thank you. By the time we went to Rio, that was actually it had a world, the world premiere had happened already. So I was kind of focused at that point on working with our sales agent to lock down some distribution and Alexi had blocked all film out of her brain to focus on the race.

Which was really cool. I mean, and of course, you know, timings, everything. Yes.

It really worked out well that we shot the movie, not this past spring, but the year before that. Fifteen? Okay.

And the reason for that is because that was an off season where there was no world championships and no Olympics. So it was like this special downtime and then we took a year actually to edit the film. It was kind of long for an indie film, but now it's coming out this like Olympic year and it's working out well.

It was really exciting. There's definitely no other sports movie quite like it. Talk about how you feel right now going into tomorrow versus, you know, there's probably not as much as it was in LA, but I mean, probably I'm assuming your first time here is my first time in Dallas.

Yeah. So first of all, welcome. Thank you.

And as we told our last guest, don't forget the state fairs going on right down there. So maybe this is the last weekend for it and it's it. You want to talk?

It's a thing. Yeah. I've heard all about it.

You haven't lived until you've had like a fried peanut butter and jelly sandwich. I'm just saying fried jello, I think, was the winner this year. We will fry it on you.

We have cookie fries this year, sir. Cookie, crinkle fries. Those I've actually had, believe it or not, just saying, how are you feeling right now going into tomorrow?

Is it just kind of just, I'm just chill and I'm going to get to this thing. Well, actually, the screenings on Sunday at 2.45. So I have a day off.

Oh, you've got to hold down. I'd be hitting up that fair, but I get nervous for any screening where I'm in the room. If there's a screening happening, we actually were just playing at another film best one Oregon today, which I couldn't be at.

I don't get nervous. I mean, I want to know it goes well, but if I'm physically present, I'll get what if the projector cuts out it. But always what happens is I listen for the first couple of laughs.

There's a lot of comedy in this, like, humorous moments in the film as well. Once I'm in the theater for a few minutes here, the laughs hit at the right spot, I actually start to really enjoy being in the room and watching it. Where's it going from here?

After having our New York premiere next, New York marathon arranged a special screening. That's awesome. The film is set up like a whole 400-seat theater in the marathon.

They have this pavilion in Central Park. It's sold out within a couple hours of going out, so that'll be really fun, and Alexi is racing a 5K in New York at the same time. So we try to combine athletic and film events for this movie as much as we can.

That's going to be a dear diary kind of day. Oh, yeah. Screamed in my film in Central Park and sold it out.

Did this today? What did you do? What are you doing with your day?

It's how I rolled today. Maybe we'll feel bad on social media, that'll be Michael. So let's do shameless self-promotion because we want you to enjoy your evening.

Give us everything, websites, social media, the whole nine. How can people get to this? Great.

Well, first, Dallas come out. I want to see you guys there. That'll be really fun.

Today, 2.45 at the Angelica. The movie is called Track Town. And...

Theater 2? Yeah, okay. Theater 2.

And you can follow us on Instagram, which is actually a really great Instagram. Alexi just kind of uses it as her personal Instagram. So if you like seeing what Olympic athletes are up to or what it is like to be at an Olympic training group, follow our movie on Instagram because it's actually, at this point, kind of become a really fun, running-based Instagram.

Is it just Track Town? It's a Track Town movie. Track Town movie.

Okay. We want to make sure we get it. Did people in the right direction?

That's the Instagram and Twitter handle. The film is called Track Town and comes to it on Sunday. All right.

Thank you so much for joining us. Go enjoy your evening. Jeremy, I'd say to you less than for me because I can't read Don's, I can't read Don's writing sometimes.

I don't want to screw it up. Thank you so much for being here, sir. Sunday afternoon, come see this film.

It looks like a lot of fun. And we're going to be here Sunday afternoon as well, too. So if you see us stop by on your way out, too, man.

Okay. We'll do an afterwards. Yeah.

I'd love to hear how things went for sure. Great. All right.

And Q&A. So you can ask questions about the movie. Absolutely.

All right. Thanks. Thank you, sir.

All right. We're going to wait to see what Don's got going on. While we're waiting for him, we can talk about some other things.

Let's see. Finding Dory. Across the billion dollar mark worldwide week last week.

I'm amazed. It took that long. And we talked about this in pre-show.

The birth of a nation may be a $10 million loss for Fox search light pictures. You want to know what we thought of it. We've got our reviews up at the website.

And you can make sure to subscribe on iTunes because you get all of our reviews there, too. So did you see here this shine in the booth thing? I saw the tattoo that he was sporting on Ellen.

If that's what you're talking about. No, apparently got married in a surprise wedding in Vegas. Oh, yes.

Yeah, she was. I wanted it. Was she surprised?

Because that's not something you want to do to somebody. A lot of people are questioning the validity of this. But it's Vegas.

Yeah. I'm just saying it's Vegas. No, they're questioning the validity of it.

If it's if it's just a promotional thing or if it actually did happen. But it always makes me think of I don't know if you ever heard the story of when Jerry O'Connell married Rebecca Romaine. They invited everybody to a party at their house that was like like farm theme where they were sitting on bails of hey.

And they just went, oh, yeah, by the way, you're at our wedding. Yeah. Did we mention we're getting married right now?

Let's see what else we have going on over here. STX was one of a studio that works with one of our vendors working on a bad mom's spin off film. Really?

You want to know what it's called? Badder moms? Bad dads.

Oh, of course. And it's set for next summer. So this thing is moving.

Good night. You've heard about the emoji movie that's happening. Yeah.

It's called Express to yourself. You see what they did there? Ah, cute.

James Corden is going to be in it. Along with Alana Glazer and TJ Miller. Because Angry Birds did so well.

And I'm a fan of TJ Miller, but I don't know if even he can save this. This next story that I want to talk about real quick, or we're waiting for Don to come back. Do you like Guy Richie?

Uh, he's got his good films in his bad films. Because I got to be honest. I'm a little nervous about this King Arthur thing.

Yeah. Yeah, that does make me a little bit nervous. But what makes you more nervous?

King Arthur? Or the live action Aladdin? Why would live action Aladdin make me nervous?

That he's directing it. No. And it makes me a little nervous.

I mean, is it under the auspices of Disney? It's Disney. Okay.

I don't think I'm going to have a problem with that then. The guy has a very unique quirky visual style. And is this Disney live action thing approaching critical mass?

Because you've got Mulan happening. You've got Beauty and the Beast happening. You've got Aladdin happening.

You've got the Lion King happening all within the next three four years. Well, I mean, the moment they stop being successful is the moment they'll stop considering making them. Are we talking to quietly now?

Oh, speaking of which, I was going to say NPR. I don't know if you know about this tonight starting in about three minutes. PBS is showing a 90 minute great performances about the background on Hamilton.

Yes. The DVR is set by the way. I said it this morning when I read about that.

Also, what do you think about this jazz job on biopic thing? What's going on with it? Michelle Williams to play her.

We're waiting on you, sir. I don't know what was going on. Look at this guy.

Look at this stranger. I feel like I haven't seen him forever in a day. Okay, here's the deal.

Okay. Every year Gary was always on. He always has this.

Yes, sir. Yes, sir. And if anybody's going to take the Gary spot this year.

Well, let's kind of fill in people that don't know Gary Murray friend of the show. Don's best friend. The last time we were doing a film festival.

It was literally the last show we did at the Dallas International Film Festival this year. We lost Gary to a horrible accident. And we often speak of him on the show.

And there was a wonderful memorial that Don was a part of. Not only down in the Houston area. They'll be joining us here in just a moment.

But we were here at the Angelica for a very, very nice memorial where we all watched the Blues Brothers together and had a great time. And another guy that, you know, Don was his best friend. But the man sitting in front of me right now is another person that when I think about Gary.

My mind goes to him. Dev Shapiro was here. Welcome, sir.

It's good to see you. Good to see you guys here. I'm trying to think when was the last time we got to hang out?

Man, it's been a while. Asian Film Festival Dallas. Yeah, he was on this.

That's right. That was a while. That was what three months ago.

It's like three months ago, isn't it? Yeah. That was a lot of fun.

I love that Asian. Yeah. Great time.

Dev representing Zieleg Film, New York. So, I see what he longed. I'm fancy.

Gary said that. Yeah. I think that's what it was because I hear Gary saying it in my head.

What's been going on, sir? Tell us what's new. What's new is we were.

Gotty and I were at the Austin Film Festival last week. Yeah. Gotty had got himself a nice little selfie.

Yeah. Last week. I don't know if you saw that, sir.

What? It was in the car and somehow wound up with a selfie with Jason Seagal's face right next to his car window. Really?

Yeah. Yeah, exactly. It's this profile picture I think right now.

And then we had another surprise guest on the red carpet. Who was that? So, we had John Paul, the guy that owns Paul Mitchell.

So, they did a great documentary on him. He walked the red carpet. He was like, yeah, I have friends that are presidents and senators and business leaders and movers and shakers, this and that.

And then, you know, he kind of went off the red carpet and went inside the theater. I was kind of slow breaking down. And here comes to Capitol Hill police officers just walking on up and they scope things out.

And two minutes later, here comes, you know, four to five suburban wood. Ted Cruz and his wife pop it out. And so, John Paul comes out and hugs him and says, hey, he's my best friend.

This and that. And, you know, I was like, sit or cruise. Can we have an interview?

I promise I will not talk any politics. Yeah, sure. We got him in front of the camera.

We got an interview with, um, with Senator Cruz. And then he went, then the UT kids had a camera and they want to interview him. So, he did them.

But unfortunately, they were so nervous. They forgot to hit the requirements. So, I guess it's been so long since we talked.

What have you seen lately that's knocked your socks off? Be honest with you. I haven't, you know, all I watch is classic in Indian films.

I mean, I don't really don't watch current films at all. You know, I like current films, but I just, I like the classics. I like foreign film.

I guess one that I've been watching at home lately that's been really reoccurring that came out a few years ago. It's called the gatekeepers. It's actually all the former heads of the Israeli Secret Service sit down and talk.

And they talk about terrorism. Wow. And the first time ever that all of these former heads of the Shen bet, which is the Shabbakh, which is the Israeli Secret Service opens up.

So, I've been watching that. I've been watching a lot of Shenorama because we're showing Shenorama here at video fest. And the fine folks at Flickr Alley for the last three or four years have been basically releasing Shenorama for your viewers.

You do not know what Shenorama is. basically releasing Sinorama for your viewers who do not know what Sinorama is. Sinorama was the very first widescreen process.

It came out in the early 50s. It was a product of the 50s and they basically took an old gunnery trainer machine and turned it into something somatic. Lowell Thomas, who is the former journalist and explorer who actually discovered Lawrence of Arabia and Mary MC Cooper who did King Kong and the searchers basically had spearheaded Sinorama.

Basically they were travel locks. And so here at the festival, because Bart likes to showcase technology, we're actually showcasing several Sinorama pieces where the first one is called the Best of Sinorama which is going to be released on DVD by Flickr Alley next month. It was a compilation released in early 60s that basically took all the thrills and chills of Sinorama, put them into one thing.

Lowell Thomas says, never rate that. The second thing we're showing is Sinorama Russian adventures. So what happened was that Sinorama started touring around the world and especially at the Damascus fair.

And the Russians got very upset because everyone was saying great things about this American product, Sinorama. And so they actually created another product called Kino Panorama and basically he said that the Americans stole that. It's told Sinorama from them.

And so being caused, we actually narrates this Sinorama, this Russian Sinorama adventure. And this film is just pristine Russia. I mean, Russia's very pristine, very untouched.

It's a beautiful film. That's being released. So we're showing really extended trailers from both of those releases.

And then the third thing we're showing is something very cool. So when they did Seven Wonders of the World back in late 50s or 60s, they actually came to Kilgore and Kilgore College and filmed the Kilgore Ranger ettes. And it happened to not end up in the theatrical release.

It was on the cutting room floor. It's discovered about 10 years ago by some Sinorama collectors. It was destroyed by Flickr Alley.

And so tomorrow is the first time it'll be shown theatrically this nice little 8 to 10 in the clip of the Kilgore Rangers practicing. And what time is all this tomorrow? That starts around two o'clock tomorrow, central time.

Awesome. Wow, that was a lot. It was a lot to take in.

But it's one of the things I love about this festival. Like you said, Bart likes to bring things that talk about the technology and how the technologies, the different things have been used over the years. I just love that they're doing that.

I love that we're doing this spring. Everything, which I think is amazing. I mean, Bart really does a great job.

I mean, he basically thinks out of the box, you know, Bart told me many years ago he goes to the international conference of public broadcasters. So a lot of the stuff you see here, video fest will be on PBS months or years later. And he just brings so many unique technologies and films and documentaries and new age stuff and old stuff all together and just meshes it up.

And it plays very nicely. The Holocaust film that he brought yesterday was really nice. I want to talk about using comedy dealing with the Holocaust.

And of course, Mel Brooks was in this film and, you know, stuff like that. We were talking about that film. And did you, did you kind of chance to look that one up?

Which one? What is the last laugh? The last laugh?

Because I heard about this somewhere else and there's somebody that is of note that's a producer on that. I know Mel Brooks is involved, but there was something else I heard on the radio a couple of months ago when they were talking about that particular film. And it's, it's very intriguing to me.

So what did you guys think of this year's festival right? I mean, we've all been together in the press. This is kind of like the very last film festival here in Dallas of this county.

So what did you guys think about this year's film festival? Aside from what happened with our friend Gary, what did you guys think? What did you like?

What did you do? We've had a lot of fun this year. You know, it's between the video fest and the Asian Film Festival and the Dallas International Film Festival.

I think we've had more fun in this year than I think we've had overall. We've had a lot of great people that have come and sit down with us. There's only been one instance this year where I kind of right tilted my head a little bit at a guest we had.

And if you listen to our first dip show, you'll probably hear that moment. And I'm not going to say what it was on the air. But you'll definitely hear it in that episode because I get a little flimaxed.

But overall, we just had a really, really good time this year. I think the high point for me is going to be the obvious Diego Diego and Jorge and Mr. Griteras.

Diego was so awesome. He would have sat there for the rest of the night. If we wanted him to, because Don had the little thing on his papers that talk as long as you want him.

Like, this dude needs to go party. He just won the third award. And he's Diego Luna.

And there's that. Let's see who else some up and coming country singer who's just starting off. Yeah, that was one of the funniest moments of the show in general this year when Charlie Pride sat down and said, hello, I'm Billy Dee Williams.

And I fell off the back of this chair. And speaking of Billy Dee Williams, that pick announcement today, the young Lando Calrissian has been cast for the young Han Solo movie. And it will be Donald Glover.

Very on board with this. Yeah, a huge fan of Donald Glover. I think that this was the first time that we've ever done two different shows in the same night.

Yes, because we were upstairs here at the Angelica for the USA Film Festival, then hauled all the gear downstairs to do the, the post award show for the day. Yeah, it should have been wearing a fit and it worked. I mean, both shows went really, really well.

It's just been a good year. And it just, you think this has been the best. And then the next year, it gets even better.

This is our fourth year doing video. Because there's, you know, people who are asking us to do this now, the like the Loan Star and stuff who, you know, there's, we're going to be expanding. And we're having fun doing it.

As long as we're having fun doing it, that's all that matters. And we've got a great, the Empire is an amazing group of people that support us. And the community of the critics, the media, oh Lord.

I mean, the number of friends that we've made in the press corps here in, in the Dallas press corps is far beyond what I would have ever expected. And because of that, it's given us an opportunity to do a lot of really, really cool stuff. And it's given us an opportunity to share those opinions that we have on films that we get to see in advance with the Empire.

You know, Kevin and with the movie brothers getting to work with them, you know, we're getting to see some really great stuff that's coming down the pike. And the fact that we get to report on it and we get to have fun doing it. That's really what matters to me.

As long as we're having a good time, that's all that matters. In high school musical awards, expanding on that, which we saw the announcement today that John Clutz will be heading that up again next year. Indeed.

So we're looking forward to seeing them in April, which we're trying to get something in the line, which I think will happen. I think that's going to happen. We've put it out there to the universe.

We said this year at the Dallas High School Summer musical, we want to be award presenters next year. I just want to cover it and we want to, we want to present. I told me, if we don't ask them, they can't say yes, right?

Exactly. Yeah. I told him, we don't care if we get the best janitor award.

You know, a lot of our opportunities are missed because you don't ask. Yeah. What was it?

Gretzky said, you miss 100% of the shots you don't take, right? Yeah. Exactly.

I mean, and if the worst thing can do is say, no, come on, then, although Chad said he will be exempt from that particular activity, I've caved. He'll really say, you're going to do it. You're going to do it.

All right. We're putting it out there to the universe. Anything else before we do the plugs and get out of here?

No. I mean, plug the website, man, plug all your social media. SeeleagueFilmnews.com.

And we're on Instagram at seeleaguepoliscope.com. So you can actually see us on Instagram, all the photos we take at all the film festivals, including the photo tech crews. And you're going to come join us Sunday evening because we're going to be back Sunday night, six o'clock.

Yeah. I'll be here. I'll be here.

I mean, I don't miss this festival for the world. I mean, it's one of the best festivals in Dallas. I think this one in Asian are the less traveled, traveled film festivals that we have, but I think they're the best.

And one of our favorite people in the press court, where Dev is one of the hardest working people in Dallas entertainment by a country mile. And we love having you on the show, sir. I love it on here.

You guys put on a really good show, a good quality. Thank you. And I think that's why you're continuing to grow and do what you want to do.

But you need to go to the Austin Film Festival. Oh, I want to. I think you're going to have to help us out on that.

To who to contact. I mean, I think that's your next adventure is the Austin Film Festival. I mark it down.

Yeah. Let's do it. I mean, we'll talk.

I mean, excuse I can go to spend the weekend in Austin because the last time Chad and I spent a weekend in Austin, but we have to hit Frank Litz. I have to hit Frank the barbecue place. We're not going to run the credits now.

So let's see. Why why Frank Litz? I because you seen on the travel show, chef.

And I heard about it so bad. And now they people line up for two hours to try. And it's only open during the day.

No, no, no, no, they don't line up for two hours. You have to get there at six o'clock in the morning. Okay, yeah, I'll do it.

I would watch. Yes. And to be honest with you, I mean, there's there's stubs.

Yeah, I'm right. Head stubs. Many times.

There's a solid driftwood. Yeah, the solid like I have to do. And then the other one, um, blacks who's out of Lockhart, Texas, yeah, opened up an outpost down the street from UT off of Guadalupe.

And so they actually shipped the barbecue in from Lockhart. So I mean, I'd never been a barbecue. I'll say this.

So if you really are into barbecuing and smoking like I am, um, Franklin actually wrote a barbecue book that I read. I read a lot of cookbooks. I love to cook.

But this barbecue book really stands out to me because he tells you what he does exactly. He doesn't say, well, this, this method's the best or that method's the best. He says, here's all the methods that are out there.

Here's how you build your own smoker. Here's how I did it. Here's how you prepare the meat and he lets you experiment.

But it's a really informative book. It's a hard back. I make no money from this, from this plug.

But no, I mean, Franklin's, I've had local say it's kind of overrated. I believe most of the stuff like on the travel channels overrated because people are just going there because it was on TV. No, it's on chef.

All right. Who else was in that sequence? We've already talked about him once on the show.

I think he was here when he got brought up. Who was playing the concert while they were eating the barbecue and shit. Gary Clark Jr.

One of the great blues guitarists of our time. I'm a huge fan of it. Okay.

All right. Let's do the plugs, gentlemen. All right.

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I'm at Chad MPG69 on Twitter. I'm at Fondongo and you can email me at Don at theclubhousepodcast.com. Email Don for information on how we can do a live remote show like we're doing right now at the Angelica at Mockingbird Station for Dallas Video Fest 29.

You can email me. We're live. Questions, comments, concerns.

Tell me to go bounce and we always are sir. I am Rob at the clubhousepodcast.com. I am Chad at theclubhousepodcast.com.

Charlotte Parker is on Pinterest because we are morally obligated to say that. And Jules Womack is probably about ready for her husband to come home. Yes.

So we need to let him do that. We will be back here for the closing night of Dallas Video Fest 29 Sunday night 7 Eastern for Pacific or you can subscribe on iTunes and you can listen to us anytime you want because you know we're there for you. And you also get stuff to live audience doesn't get.

So until Sunday night for Chad for Dev for Don for the Empire. I'm Rob clubhouse is closed and we're just a little over a week away from a new month on the Britney Palmer calendar.