2023 USA Film Festival

for posterity sake.
Oh, I'm gonna turn myself out there a little bit.
It is 657 on the East Coast.
It is 357 on the West Coast.
It is the 23rd of April.
In the year of our Lord 2023, I don't even have numbers
of where we are in season 13 right now.
We've been off for a few weeks.
We've given you some additional stuff to listen to over the last few weeks.
But we are back with a brand new episode.
The Clubhouse podcast is live.
Two tape.
From the Angelica Film Center in Dallas, Texas for the closing day of the 53rd annual
USA Film Festival.
Did I do that right?
It is 23rd?
19, 22, 21.
Yeah.
It is the final night of the USA Film Festival.
53 times they've done that.
We have not done that 53 times because none of us have been alive that long.
Although one of us is close.
My name is Rob.
I am the executive producer of the Clubhouse podcast.
And we thank you for being so patient with us the last few weeks.
A lot more to come stay with us.
The crew is all here to my right because this is the theater of the mind.
Is my co-host and a man who today has been everywhere, man.
He is Alex.
Almost everywhere.
We got Arlington.
We got Dallas.
We got everything in between.
And it is one of the few days of the year that I know very well.
Because it is my mother's birthday.
Yes, it is.
Happy birthday to mom.
I made sure I said something to her on the book of Face this morning.
I have avoided that so far.
I'm waiting to see how angry she gets.
That's between you and her.
Exactly.
Across the table as he does every time we cover a film festival.
He is the fact checker.
He is the official fact checker of sooner or later productions.
And a man who loves his country.
And the human Wrangler.
Don't forget the human Wrangler.
Well, we'll get to that.
Yeah.
You may know him as Igbunu.
But his mom and name him Don Ford.
I'm going to call him Don Ford.
Hey, man.
I'm just going to say it right now.
Please do.
I have to give a special shout out to the representative Janet Miss Crockett.
And her staff.
Remember of Congress who gave us such incredible tour of the Capitol.
We had a great time in D.C.
Followed my Facebook page.
You can see a bunch of stuff.
Her staff was incredible.
They gave us a special VIP tour.
And so we got to go like on the House floor.
This was cool.
They found out you were part of this show.
Exactly.
Exactly.
He has to roll VIP.
Yeah.
Because they get to shout out on the show.
So Jasmine Crockett.
Thank you so much.
We had a good time.
All that stuff.
But here's a deal.
We're at a film festival.
You know what that means.
You got to go do what you do.
Bye-bye.
Of Vita Zen.
While we are waiting for our first guests, we have to say you're welcome.
Welcome to some people overseas.
I could not have been more thrilled yesterday to find out that
the Rexham Dragons have been promoted.
Go ahead.
Oh, I was confirming it's to leak too.
That is correct.
Yes.
After 50 years.
Yeah.
They've been sitting at the bottom.
And now we've started the bottom and now we're here.
So.
And for those listening to the audio medium, there was a visual representation of bands.
Although seeing the pure emotions from.
I watched the video today.
That was really good.
Yes.
After Ryan Reynolds buys a multi-million dollar home very close to the pitch.
Yep.
Which.
But to me, I think that's a beautiful thing because he is showing his commitment to the franchise.
By living there.
Now, I want to take it a step back because you and I have both been fans of welcome to Rexham.
That's correct.
It is a commitment to the town and to its people beyond just the team.
Yeah.
Well, they were talking about that today and the footage I saw that.
That is a community's team.
Community's the word I was looking for.
Thank you.
And watching the closing moments of that match and just the ensuing madness.
The eruptions of joy.
As I am now caught up on Ted Lasso with those parallels.
Well, it was just watching the pure glee.
Watching Ryan Reynolds on FaceTime with his wife and kids.
Watching the town and the community come together and just be excited.
For a team that almost blinked out of existence on multiple occasions.
And if you haven't watched what I am now calling season one of welcome to Rexham.
Yeah.
Because there's no way there's not a season two.
Oh, absolutely.
And if they haven't been filming all season, I'm going to be horribly upset about that.
I believe they've confirmed that they have been actively filming the entire time.
And I need to know when this thing kicks off on FX.
And then we will be reviewing weekly, I think, thereafter.
We have a guest.
I'm waiting for Don to give me what I need.
Sure.
That's pretty much the way it works out our film.
That's the people who just come down.
You know what?
It's what we call this organized chaos.
So heavy on the chaos.
Yes.
Less on the organized.
Because if we knew what we were doing, everything would go too smooth.
And nobody had to listen.
Yes, absolutely not wrong.
Because when everything goes by script, no magic really happens, does it?
I have a thing.
Well, let's say I don't know like that.
Oh.
Yeah.
It's going to join.
This is the other producer on the movie.
All right, fair enough.
Perfect.
All right.
Oh, this is tonight's film.
Yeah.
This is tonight's film.
Let's have a better day.
Your mics are right there.
Talk right into them.
Because they are unidirectional.
Because close up as you can.
Welcome.
Welcome.
Welcome.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Since we are in an audio medium, we get to let you introduce yourselves.
All right.
Get right up on that thing.
I'm Lola Lot with Tonic, the film, and I'm one of the producers.
And I am Jason Starn.
I'm also a producer of this movie.
Starring one Billy Blair.
Who is not a stranger to this particular area.
I have seen him in multiple local shows that I have worked.
Tell us a little bit about the film.
As much as you can without spoiling anything.
Okay.
One night saga.
Okay.
Bad cop sells loans money to a pianist.
A jazz pianist, Billy Blair.
Billy Blair can't pay him back.
So he has to take someone out for him to clean his debt.
Clear his debt.
Well, a little bit of a high octane feel to it.
Very much.
Yeah.
It's an overnight odyssey.
Yeah.
How long...
And I don't want to go from Genesis.
But how long did you shoot this film?
15 days.
All of it in 15 days.
What's the runtime?
102 minutes.
Yeah.
So just sort of 145.
That seems like a frantic pace.
We don't want to do that again.
Yeah.
That's fair.
It was a crazy pace.
Eleven nights in deep elm.
Overnights.
Two days.
Scat jazz.
Lowney Fort Worth.
And two days in Lakewood.
Yeah.
Was that the original plan for the timing?
Or was it more condensed for a reason?
That was always a plan.
Oh, really?
We're trying to produce a high caliber film on a very tight schedule.
For many reasons.
One, that it's deep elm.
Those are not the delts for it worth.
Deep elm is kind of our arts district for lack of one of our two big art districts
for a lack of a better term.
And it's nightlife.
It's an area that's also in constant motion.
You can imagine you having to stick and move through all of that.
Yeah.
Lots of moving parts, for sure.
And you work around the nightlife,
or were you able to integrate with that?
And if so, were there a lot of things that had to be signed by people
that might have just been walking by?
Because there is a lot of activity down there.
Yes.
We actually make in the film.
We included a lot of nightlife, including the areas and the bars where we shot.
It played perfectly.
People became a part of the film.
Yeah.
So much nice ambient sound that would have cost lots of money to produce.
If we hadn't just let it be a part of our, you know,
the excitement of what was about to happen each night.
So is there a tag of like special fully artist, just deep elm?
Great idea, actually.
Another one of my personal favorites is in the suit with the great Laurie Petty.
Yeah.
Laurie Petty is in the film.
Yeah.
Laurie Petty is one of those performers that you just look at.
Oh, there's Laurie Petty.
Okay, we're good.
Thank you.
Yeah.
One of my favorite films from when I was, I didn't say from when I was a kid,
but it's true.
Talk about working, especially with these two people that people know,
people that have a reputation in the industry,
and getting them to work in this environment.
Because you're outside of the traditional LA structure.
Billy, I know knows Dallas well.
Yes.
Laurie's, I know I've been here a few times.
What was, was there an adjustment to work with them in this kind of an environment?
I wouldn't say so.
I don't think so.
Everybody came into town really excited to be here.
We were very conscientious about the number of days they were here in town.
So it was limited.
Richard Riley was just incredible.
He came in with a little satchel of a bag.
He did his job.
He ate with the crew.
He was just amazing.
And Laurie, you know, acclimated pretty darn quickly herself.
Ed Westwick, the same.
I mean, it was, it was pretty amazing how professional these pros are and how easy going to.
Yeah, I'll say this.
I think she was a little bit surprised.
She'd just come off the station 11 and she had some rublings about some things
that weren't in place for them while they were shooting.
And we took care of her very well.
Isn't that kind of the way though?
If it all went smoothly, we'd wonder what really happened.
Exactly.
Or what you missed.
Yeah.
What actually happened in this deal.
Yeah.
That's so true.
How many times is the phone been screened if you don't mind me asking?
Tonight.
Tonight premiered?
Oh, wow.
I never assumed it.
Because then it's like, no, dude, the screen is like 19.
So have you seen it completed or were you waiting for tonight?
I cut it.
Yeah.
I've seen it a few times.
So you've seen it in various forms.
We have seen it.
We've screened it in the audio suite, the final.
But we have not seen it on the big screen.
So this is exciting.
Right here tonight.
It's always better to see the film in the big screen.
How are you feeling right now?
Because we're about 52 minutes away.
Excited?
Nervous?
Relieved?
Yeah.
I think that's it.
Not nervous?
Excited?
And relieved?
Yeah.
I'm glad we're here.
Well, you know, when you're close to something for a long time,
we think it's pretty great.
But I just hope that everybody else does too.
I'm sure they will.
My own bias in it.
It sounds amazing.
The cast is awesome.
You two look amazing for your premier.
So take that as well.
So it looks like it's going to be a great, great showing.
Quick question I saw on there.
Vernon Davis.
I know he's been trying to transition.
This is, he's still in his infancy getting into acting.
How was he doing on the set?
Vernon is amazing.
And amazing.
He's so smooth.
Yeah.
He really is.
I kind of kid it with him.
He channeled.
I don't know if you guys watched Martin growing up.
From Martin Lawrence.
Kind of channel Jerome a little bit.
Jerome.
And we can't even talk about that.
But yeah, Vernon, he's a tremendous talent.
I mean, amazing football player, but he may be a better actor.
I believe it.
I've had some friends who have crossed over with him while he was still in the sports area
and said he was always very charming, very polite.
So I'm always curious to see how his transition was going.
Lola picked him up in the airport.
I think of that first thing she said to me as, man, that guy is good looking.
That is also an accurate statement.
That is, he is a very, very, he has that beautiful smile for sure.
Pleasant guy, amazing, beautiful man.
What's next for the film after tonight?
Some other festivals outside of Texas.
Some international stuff we're working on.
Oh, we're not biased.
You could tell us where.
We like being the first thing.
Yeah.
Well, it's home.
It's like for me, this is I think one of the things that excites me.
So this is a Dallas film.
We made this movie here.
All the people that worked on this movie.
Hence, we're beside some of the actors.
But all of our crew local, our DP wasn't local.
We brought him in.
He became local while he was here, though.
All the bands, all the music.
They're all local musicians that played that are on the soundtrack.
The movie has no traditional score.
It's driven by the music of Deep Ellen.
Who else on it?
As far as bands.
Who's our big?
We love the shout out.
I love the shout out bands.
I'm a DJ by Dre.
I don't know.
You have to watch it.
Watch the credits.
Billy Blair, LSD.
Yes, he does.
Yes, he does.
And Lou Morris did the opening song and the closing song on the film.
Is it all original to the film?
All original to the film.
That's even better.
Yeah.
Because now you've got songs that are dedicated to the film versus going out there
and finding things of that nature.
Exactly.
The film industry in this town has gotten insane.
Probably in the last five to ten years.
In a good way.
In a good way.
In a good way.
Absolutely.
Was there any piece of the making of this film that surprised you?
Because of the way the Dallas film industry is blooming for lack of a better term?
I don't think I was surprised.
I mean, I've known.
I've done this as my fourth film in three years.
Three of them in Dallas in Texas.
Four worth and one in Corsicana.
So.
But I think the support we got from the city was good.
It was really big.
The DPD, you know, Dallas Police Department were amazing.
The restaurant owners, the bars, the places where we shot.
Everybody was so supportive and wanted to be part of this.
And so I think that part of it was very nice to have.
I wasn't surprised, but I was really impressed by the crew.
We had a small crew and they worked long nights.
And they came to work the next night.
Ready to go.
There was never any complaint.
In fact, it was a pretty happy set.
And that was really nice.
Because you need it when you're working that fast and furiously.
Yeah.
I think people don't realize what we have here for crew.
I think more people would shoot here.
And mind you, we were still shooting through COVID as well.
So.
Oh, yeah.
We had to deal with that.
Is it four films in three years?
Are you going to take a nap?
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
No, I got Lola as a partner.
So maybe not.
Is there any, like, I know you guys have to get ready for the screening.
Once you to plug social media, working they contact you.
If they can't make it out tonight.
And they want to see the film.
What's next?
Plut, we baited the, based the show on Blamus.
Our shameless self promotion.
Go.
Well, I think what's next is just to get in touch with Lola or myself.
We're not going to rush the film out to a distributor.
We want to find the right partner for it.
We believe the film needs the, the right partner to, to put it out there.
So we do want to sell it.
Yes.
This film is for sale, guys.
Just in case that wasn't clear.
Yeah, but we do want to be strategic about our next move.
So please have, so please have them reach out to Lola lot or Jason Starn.
Q and A after the film I assume.
So they can ask what they want, especially since it was filmed here.
Yes, absolutely.
Tonight, USA Film Festival 7 o'clock.
The film was called Tonic.
If you don't catch it tonight, find it.
A great people involved with this.
And I can say that because I've met at least a couple of them.
So thank you guys so much for joining us.
All the luck in the world tonight.
We can't wait to see what happens.
Thank you guys.
Thank you very much.
Thank you.
Thank you.
We're on Angelica Dallas.
Yeah.
It's been a long weekend, bro.
It's been a long, long weekend.
Thank you.
But we are here for the final night of the USA Film Festival 53rd annual.
It's crazy.
And we're not done.
We got more people coming to sit down.
Absolutely.
Let's keep it moving.
I should probably open this back up.
So I know what I do.
I believe you're welcome to two people.
We got one.
All right.
Talk right into that microphone.
Tell everybody who you are.
Yeah, no, that's fine.
Whatever you need.
All right.
She had to go grab something real quick.
No worries.
We're dealing with professionals.
There's all that.
It is indeed.
That may be the first time in a long time.
Somebody's actually known the show by name.
I'm not for sure.
I think Don might have had something to do with it.
Don't ruin my delusions.
Well, I have to.
Otherwise you tend to get a little bit too excited.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Don't worry.
You tend to get a little bit too excited.
You wouldn't think a little bit, yeah.
All right.
I think we're good now.
Talk right into you are.
Yeah.
Hi.
My name is Shantau James.
And you are with the Texas Short Films tonight also at 7 o'clock.
Which film is yours.
That's right.
A thousand times a day.
A thousand times a day.
Oh, wow.
There's a lot going on here.
Tell us about it.
There is a lot going on.
Yeah.
A thousand times a day.
I am the right a director, also producer.
It is a short film about the octamac.
film about the aftermath of the drowning of a little boy and it takes a look at the
sister who was the mother and the brother who was taking care of the child when the accident
happened. Their relationship is so he was responsible for taking care of the boy when
he drowned and so there's a lot of tension in their relationship and it looks at kind
of forgiveness and letting go and kind of moving forward and what that looks like.
How long is the film? It's a 16 minute film. 16? Yeah. How do you take all of that and
jam it into 16 minutes? It's a lot and you know I think like I wanted to make a 10 minute
short film and it's so hard to do with something that's that big in terms of subject matter.
So it ended up being 16 minutes. The first cut was like 22 minutes I think which it's
a lot of it's a lot of short film. Yeah and like he would say there's a lot to
compact into that time frame. Had you ever looked at wanting to do the 10 minutes seeing
that you had more and possibly even expanding from there? Yeah because I mean the way it could be
like it could be a TV episode you know there was enough footage for it to be and the story would
have like held for that. So yeah I guess when I made it what I really just wanted to make something
that was 10 minutes because I know it's so programmable for festivals but I just it didn't end up
being that so I'm still to like really get that 10 minute short film like yeah every time I make
a short it ends up being longer than I think it's going to. So next time I will know.
Is this the kind of thing you think you would want to expand into a feature or do you like it where
it is? I'm not this one I I don't think so I'm ready to let it go it's really kind of a dark
subject matter and it was really amazing to work with and we partnered with a non-profit cod
Collins Hope who educates children about you know water safety and it's there are wonderful
organization but they really helped me with financing and and bringing on resources for filming
and so that relationship was really incredible but afterwards I was like okay I I'm ready to
let this go and start working on the next thing. Now is this the first time you've dealt with darker
subject matter in this scope? The last film I made before that was called ordinary and it was about
a woman dealing with schizophrenia so also pretty dark subject matter. Yeah and how do you
and I don't want to say come away from it like you you use the term you're ready to let it go and be
how do you separate yourself from that because I feel like that's the kind of subject matter that
might stick with you for a while. Yeah absolutely well I came into filmmaking from an acting
background so I think it's like when you're in it you really are in the process of it and it kind
of consumes you and you do end up dreaming about you know it's it's all encompassing and then I
think you know in the different stages of filmmaking you go you know the post-production is it's
very quiet you know and it's just it's very different and so having that time I think is quite
reflective and then by the time anyone gets to see it it's you've kind of healed from that and
you're you're so onto the next thing that it's I think that's really helps to let it go and then
seeing it on screen and seeing the relationship with the audiences then another thing so I think
it all kind of flows. Well in part of the genius what I love about short films we get to do them in
groups. Yes and we have another person with us from the short film go ahead and tell everybody who
you are you might should be hot so you should be ready to go. I feel like this is her thing.
No go together. Come on come on the one is warm come on in. I was told to sit down I go.
Thank you guys for doing this. Welcome. So I'm Stephen Robinson I'm the director of the the
short film home it's about to show at seven as well it's the the story of the Vietnamese refugees
in the 1980s that come and settle in Houston and try to live the American dream in Texas.
And it's I always love to see how short blocks are put together where it looks like both of these
films there's a level of struggle to it which I think is neat. Talk about how you you would direct
a film that you've got again you've got to put all this together. Do you find yourself always
thirteen steps ahead of yourself or do you prefer to direct in the moment so we can keep it moving
right? Because when you're doing a short you don't you don't have any more time constraints I guess.
I think because I produce this short I was always directing from the beginning and I also wrote it
so and I'm such a visual person that I'm so prepared like how I want things to look by the time
I get to set I think that that really helps. I think it's the same same way for me I think a lot
of the short filmmakers they are everything because you know you don't get a whole lot of funding
for short films it's a little bit harder than features. I also like to plan to have accidents
so it's kind of like you plan as much as you can but then you be open to taking it where it needs
to go where an actor needs to go or you know a set that gets canceled on you and you got to pivot
over to something else so it's a you want to be thirteen steps ahead but it doesn't always happen
that way so. Now Miss James mentioned about coming from the acting side into the directing what
was your entry into short film? I'm that sad story of making films since I was like five years old.
That's really cool. Sad and that I'm still at the struggle you know but I do but I do love it
so I started as a writer. Always live loved writing stories got my hands on a camera and
somebody said hey you can actually film what you're writing which was which was a lot of fun. I
think when you write you can only take it so far and then being able to film it as a whole
another satisfaction and I'm really jealous of that journey I wish I had of started filmmaking
when I was five. Means you didn't need all this work that I had to you know with a short you do
have to wear multiple hats. Writer, producer, director, caterer, first AD, second AD.
How especially when you're a when you're a director, producer how do you change those hats?
Because you have to look at it differently. Yeah it's actually really hard.
Because you're just like am I yeah yeah yeah I would just I would freak out if I had to wear
those multiple hats especially when you're trying to get something on time in budget but you
wanted also wanted to be your vision at the same time. Yeah it's a it's a struggle we for we
were supposed to have another producer on set and he had to pull out last minute for personal reasons
and so I found myself directing and producing more physically than I wanted to be and that was
difficult and we ran over four hours on a night shoot which means a lot when you're shooting
night it means you know finishing at 5 a.m. instead of four hours early as so people aren't
generally happy about that but you know we had such a great crew and they really just kind of
gave it their all and we're happy to be there even though the circumstances weren't favourable.
Excellent. How do you change directions in those situations when you're having to do everything?
Well I think it's it's it's surrounding yourself with much smarter people that's for me not
difficult. I mean Barlow meany there so it's a real problem if I walk in and I'm smarter than
anybody but I make sure that that doesn't happen so yeah it's it's you know you find people that
are better than you at certain positions and then you put those people in the in the right
positions and then you give them what they need and let them flourish and then and then honestly
I do have a little bit of a sick side to me I enjoy the stress I enjoy having to pivot to producing
and doing all this yeah I love I love the different challenges so you both have been dealing with
some like we talked about a little bit darker subject matter what do you do to get away from it
to kind of refresh your brain a little bit so that just I need to put this to the side I need
something that just gets me away from it so I can kind of reset so I'm ready again the next day.
I write comedy I have I have a couple of comedy features that I'm working on and I'll pick
them back up and I'll refresh like that and then I'll come back to you know some of the deepest
stuff that I work on it just it keeps it light this is funny this is actually a very lighter material
than what I usually do so this is a very feel good movie hopefully I walk away with it darker than
you know I'm sorry yeah usually I deal with a lot more I'm more in the horror genre okay and
this is much more of a feel good American dream family film we be doing a group Q&A after the after
the block yes yes yes we will yeah cool I always always like those two because you get filmmakers
that can compare visions and you can say oh I saw this in yours and you exchange those ideas too
let's talk about film a little bit because film is what we do what right now film wise are you
looking forward to seeing as as a fan of film anything on your radar well like a like a film
like an actual film I do want to see Bose afraid r aster's new film came out on Friday didn't see
that it's my here at the angelica oh really have you seen it I have is it good
may I take this one yes or is it it's three hours yeah and I will say we did mention shameless self
promotion if you would like to go to the clubhouse podcast.com somebody has a review of the film
you guys probably reviewed it yeah I did review it I was not available so I can't take any claim
this is all Rob not my favorite film of the year are you an r aster fan did you like her
editor I'm not a horror person there you go this is not a horror film yeah yeah there are a lot
of different interpretations of this film I did there were people in the screening I went to
that want to watch it again because there's a lot of little things it just seemed like to me
he got a bunch of people in a room and went pitch me a movie and they pitched in my movie and they
go which one do you want to do and he went all of them yeah the way I the way I summarize it is
imagine if Joaquin Phoenix did back-to-back episodes of Saturday Night Live in a character who
just meandered from from sketch to sketch but may or may not have a thread that runs between all of it
oh that's gonna be where the sketch is good some of them yes I'm like visually because the screening
we did they showed it to us in iMacs oh yeah so you know at least visually it has to it has to
impress sound editing spot on again iMacs you're gonna have to bring your a game it just it wasn't my
cup of tea okay but but it's also I liked the fact that he challenged himself yeah that he
didn't make another other there are horror elements you it's right because I don't know I don't
know that are you will ever get away from it because that's his bread and butter but but this isn't
about me I wanted to make it about y'all yeah man but we that that's why we do these things because we
are fans of film yeah you know and this is why we love doing film festivals and talking to people
that make film because it's important for me that people understand the process behind it
that it's not you know grab your camera in here we go yeah and especially as accessible as
tech has gotten you know soda brick shot a whole movie on an iphone a couple yeah soda brick did
yeah you know but that doesn't mean that there's not a still a process to it yeah
well how do y'all sorry sorry sorry but I am fascinated when you guys are writing reviews how do you
maneuver between your own bias your personal taste and objectively having to view a film I mean
it is a constant struggle do you let that seep into your writing and just say hey this is this is
if you like me you like me and what I like that's an excellent question for me I don't turn
now I don't do horror films because I have a policy I live by a code I refuse to pay someone
or take my time for someone to try to make me pee on myself but I do everything and I will say
up front in certain films like I have a bias for this but I have to take that right I try to be
as objective as I can for me it's not necessarily about the technical aspects of the film for me did
I enjoy the film yeah and that's one of the debates that we have a lot at end of year is I'll
have something in my bottom 10 and these other two will look at me like I'm from outer space yeah
and vice versa yeah because the three of us actually do look at it from different angles yeah
and I and I think that's what makes this show work it what makes this show different yeah why
we've been around as long as we have but it's it's it's a valid point you know because at the
crux of it all I'm just giving you my opinion right right everybody has one and as a filmmaker though
how how how thick does that code of armor have to be when you're when you're showing your art
this thing you have put your mind body and soul into and you're putting it out there just
it's out there on front street and it's and to hear people react to it how do you build that
suit of armor yeah because it's your personal thing it is hard I was feeling really nervous on the
way here and I have to speak sick clean up because they're getting loud yeah I couldn't figure out
while while I was feeling so stressed this afternoon I realized it's because I'm nervous
this isn't our premiere but I missed our premiere because I was in Australia and so this is the
first time I've been with an audience and it is hard because you make the film for yourself you know
you make what you want to see and you hope that other people like it but there's no guarantees
right so it it is hard are you are you able seem to put up those blinders so that that's
interesting for me the hardest process to take off those blinders is the writing I feel so
much more personal when you slave over this writing thing that nobody sees for a very long time
when you're making the film you know you're showing editors you're constantly having this feedback
but oftentimes when you're writing you go into a little room and you write and you think it's great
you might even have shown your wife or your spouse and they think it's great and you're like it is
great and then you show somebody whose opinion probably matters a money person or producer and they hate
it for me once the film is done if it's exactly the way that I was hoping to do it it almost doesn't
hurt when somebody doesn't like it because you're just like it's what I wanted
and it's it's locked and I'm not going to change it but for the the writing reason the writing
stage is very vulnerable for me I don't know it's a lot more personal the writing stage now I wanted
to ask a quick question you were talking about locking in a room writing you miss James we're
talking about the visuals being very much on yours is there any kind of difference from what Mr.
Robbins just said regarding your writing I wouldn't think so I I find the writing notes to feel
very personal and I try not to take them personal but yet there's always like when I get feedback I
always give myself a day to be like I'm going to feel pretty shitty today and that's okay and then
tomorrow I'll get the work done all right we're getting the high sign before we let you guys go we
base this show on shameless self promotion so if you want to get in touch with you for the film
how can they do it give us everything absolutely so I have a production company called Lady Alchemist
Films you can find us on on the internet and you can email me through there I also produce a podcast
for women in film and television Austin which we talk about filmmaking specifically for women
specifically in Austin and in Texas so check us out and then in August we have the women in
Texas film here fabulous yeah so for this is actually episode six of a 10-part Texas history series
I work for a nonprofit and these have been sort of a part of curriculum for Texas history
middle school classes all across Texas and so we're actually telling multiple stories you can
actually go to forging Texas if you just type in forging Texas on Google the first three episodes
will pop up and and they're pretty big and they're pretty cinematic and we're going to be making two
more one in the summer on black cinema here in Dallas if you're not familiar with that history
Spencer Williams shot one of the the first race films ever to be accepted into the film registry
called the blood of Jesus it was shot here in Dallas we're going to be making an episode on that
and they're very similar to what you're going to see tonight in home it's very cinematic and then
you can reach me at s robinson at texaspolicy.com if you want to support or be involved in the
in the upcoming films and then yeah I'll be working on that horror film that you probably will not
go watch thank you guys so much for sitting down with us best of luck tonight I hope it goes
swimmingly we're going to let you go do what you do thank you guys it was a pleasure thank you very
much as you can tell the midday films have released yes that's what all the ambient noise around
this thing thank you so much we really appreciate you guys so much live at angelica film center
at mocking bird station it is the 53rd annual USA film festival all right hello hello hello hello hello
talk right to this microphone tell us who you are hi I'm Sarah Adams and I'm Maggie Reeth Austin
where were the film blender blender blender yes for the Texas short film block oh part of the short film block
okay good good good tell us about the film oh man where are we good this is this I wish we had
the video set up so you can see their reactions yeah well it's a good one it's a fantastic so it's
said in 1993 and it's set in 1993 and it's about two housewives who are also PTA members and have
a tiff with the PTA president at the elementary school and one of them happens to sell very powerful
blenders and I think it's a murder mystery thriller comedy of sorts this sounds awesome
how long is the film the film it's five minutes you get all of that in five minutes yes we are
very efficient writers and directors yeah so somebody with my short attention span I'm sorry what
I wasn't paying attention exactly okay we're there this is made for you this is made for the ADD
consumer so what what was behind this what made you go this is what we want to make a film about
because it's very specific or is this who do we blame it's also fair yeah well I think a lot of our
we've been writing and directing for almost a decade and we love telling unique stories that have
a lot of visual components and that are character driven and that are female leads and so us being
females and mothers we have a lot to say about that perspective and a lot of funny things to say
so this started I think from Maggie's brilliant idea of saying would it be funny if someone were to
die being blended like what's the most absurd way to die and I think it would be being blended up by
accident you know like I don't know I just thought it would be yeah funny and disgusting and that's
who we are funny disgusting ladies I'm just fascinated by that concept of like what's the most
creative thing we can do shoot it let's do it whatever that is let's do it that's our process is
kind of like what's a funny idea and then we yes sand it until we're making one of my favorite
things to ask especially when it's directors of short film five minute film how long did it
take to shoot it took a day all day all day yeah a day because I always want to tell people like
they're like well it was only 15 minutes long but yeah there's a reason it took a weekend
a half to shoot right right five minute short to take a full day to shoot it yes and it's all one
set I mean it's multiple setups within but it's one location exactly so if you have any short
that's in multiple locations over 15 minutes that is like a week long it's it's one of the reasons
when we when we write and we direct we we know that we're limited with production budget so we always
start there and see what can we get done to tell the story the best way and having a one location
makes things easy so how large was the crew or was it just a we six of us I think we have six people
on set nice yeah yeah then lots of post help like the worst part is is this is one of those times
where we get creative with film festivals I was like I kind of wish we could just watch your film
now we'll give it a live chat it's only five minutes yeah now that's showing it's seven tonight
yeah it is okay have they given you the order yet as to who's opening who's closing I haven't
I haven't seen it's gonna be a surprise it is for all of us so like something fades out and you go
that's not us yet yeah I always love a short block though because you get to see so many
different kinds of films all within it and I love that we're in the Texas block because it's
all Texas grown so awesome he may have asked us and forgive me if he has I'm I'm dealing with the
technical side of this too have you seen it with an audience yes we have yes yes how many
we this will be our fourth screening uh-huh so um we saw that tall grass was our debut and then
we were at Indie Memphis and then we had a small screening with some other filmmakers so uh
but never never this large of an audience I don't think I think this is going to be our biggest
we um USA Film Festival is actually really kind of near and dear we screened our very first
project at USA Film Festival back in 2014 2017 the service elevator so it's it's nice to see
our projects evolve and still have a home here at USA Film Festival yeah this is our hometown one
excellent I'm I'm still stuck on the idea I'm excited to see this
yes yeah so amazing thank you so much for which filmmakers inspire you oh good question uh
uh ourselves you know what Maggie inspires me every so we've been best friends and
performing together for over a decade we met at Dallas Comedy House when it was around as
it provides us and from that relationship we have started writing and directing and producing
I think we have a hundred videos now on youtube we do officially officially a hundred all right well
now that you've said that you got to promote it what is the channel oh right you can follow us at
the monthly junk that's our production company we're on all the social platforms and we have a
podcast unstable topics so that's unstable topics pod.com and uh yeah follow our friendship our films
and all the fun there at the monthly junk awesome since you've done this with multiple audiences
I'm assuming multiple Q&As yes what's the craziest question you've been asked so far
you know we haven't really been asked to me crazy I'm surprised no one's asked us who's
Steve me like it's Steve me the real person when we were writing yeah yeah because Steve is the
man who unfortunately is in the blender and no one really cares about him no no I'm really
surprising is no one no one really cares about they're like cool great how about these ladies
ladies ladies women also know it so I was very specific uh we're set in 1993 it's the era no one's
to ask us why about that either you're right yeah they just like the like the vibe of it it looks nice
you know I know that I'm gonna ask why 93 uh why my sophomore year in college
so I have so initially I was trying to pitch Maggie that is going to be in the 70s I want it
I wanted a 70s era stylized piece I love the look and feel whatever she's like I don't know if
that's the best idea because it's all about pta and I feel like the pta helicopter parent was
very 90s yeah that's that's two different things though because the helicopter parent you're
absolutely right yes but if you're there's a song called Harper Valley pta that's true okay
woman who reveled against her okay wow but but we had more um access production wise that's
a more 90 stuff so 93 specifically it's the fourth technology really gave a hand up with
solving crimes like these two women who were innocent by the way it's a total accident it's a total
accident allegedly allegedly it's a legend crime 93 you know you're without cell phones you're
without you know they can't be awarded by Google yes right there's no Google image search or
anything and the style back then it's iconic we get to wear these big huge firms and it's very
very fun and how much flannel it was I was in I'm in a very respectful pink polo thing
okay that is my 90s my 90s mom that's later yeah yeah we're really dressed like late 80s because
moms are always a few years behind as you can tell you know you look at us your very stylish
right now I've been following tic-tocs you know I'm real Gen Z in my heart I admit at Instagram
anything after Instagram I know 50 staring me in the face it's not an enjoyable time we're
getting a high sign we base the show on shameless self promotion so I need to let everybody know
social media how can they get a hold of you want to film everything else go yep so blender all
of our projects are at the monthly junk.com and then on social we're on Facebook YouTube Instagram
tic-toc at the monthly junk our podcast unstable topics podcast is available wherever you get that
also we stream it on YouTube so you can watch our reactions so anything else you want to say no
Maggie's perfect I would never add anything to you guys got 17 minutes of this thing kicks off enjoy
the evening thank you thank you guys for sitting down thank you so much here is the short check that
out as well I need a beverage I need worse don go don was giving me the high sign and I don't know
what we're doing now yeah but you know what don has lost his notepad this is not good we have a
notepad down so we have covered almost the entire short film block in every single one of them
sounds awesome but that's the beauty of short film blocks at a film festival is you get you can
get I like it when they feed more than when it's just things put together because you get things
that people are passionate about at the same time yeah and it's it's very and I like short films
because it's very stick and move very much you have to as you would put it you cut to the chase
because that's your whole film or at least a setup and then cut to the chase this may be the first
remote show we've ever done with this many people I can't hear us yeah that's also true
if I weren't right next to me I'd be up a creek without a paddle yes that's also fair although I
didn't want to ask them one question but I felt like I wouldn't get a straight answer it's like okay
you didn't answer which filmmaker inspires you but which ones would you want to put in a blender
that's what I want to hear now they may not answer that as well because they are very intelligent
people but this has been the first show we've ever done or I was put on the spot for a film I
didn't enjoy I don't think so it's the first one I know you have been directly but I feel like
there was another one that was more along the lines of we were discussing and it was more
along the lines of well what did you think about it it's like I don't want to answer this
just in case Don has done has he is lost in the sea of people I want to say that are guests oh he's
coming are they okay there we go all right I'm glad I can leave this because I thought I read one
of their lips as a podcast and I think that's us hello hello welcome and a little confusion we're
okay now yeah I was just telling Alex I can read lips one of them said podcast so I think they're
in the right place go ahead get right into that microphone tell everybody who you are I am Alex
Hoy and I'm here with Taylor Jury Scores and from under the influence I was reading this synopsis
of this film and this date right now where we are this film is perfect the timing of this film is
perfect yeah but I want you to tell people about this film because I am fascinating yes well so
about six years ago I worked as a producer for a big YouTube channel like 14 million subscribers
are you allowed to say who I'm not saying who okay we have that maybe some viewers will be able
to figure it out if they know the person but yeah because there's a lot we I definitely pulled a lot
from that experience so I'm not hiding it if you're looking for but essentially you know it was a
terrible job but it was a fascinating cake character study of this person who lived outside of
reality you know what I mean she was 14 doing makeup in her mirror and then by the time she's 18 she's
a millionaire with millions of followers and so she just lived this crazy life where she never really
grew up and everyone who was interested in her just wanted to take something from her so she
had this really cynical kind of view of personal relationships and then I mean essentially she was
kind of on the fringe of entertainment but nobody really took her seriously so it was a really
fascinating place for me to come in when she was like 25 and the the old stuff wasn't really working
anymore so now she's trying to figure out what to do with her life because she's been doing this
for 10 years at this point so it was it was an interesting I guess it was a terrible job I certainly
left there thinking I don't want to ever go back to this but I saw a movie that reminded me so
much of her as a character and I really felt like if I could lay my experience over kind of the
structure that would be laid out it would be a really interesting and fresh take on are very
topical subject material so putting a bow on it we could say being inside the sphere not so much
fun being outside the sphere give me the popcorn let's go it's a wild ride a wild ride what brought
you to the film well I'd actually known Alex from a previous projects that we never made actually
we were hoping to do a short film together and then because of that we made a great connection and
when he put out this idea of this feature film about a social media influencer I was like hey do
you mind if I have a shot at reading for this and he was like yeah you know we're looking at a
lot of different people but you know would love to have you read for it and went into the auditions
and I loved the the idea of it you know I might always say that social media regardless if you've
ever had an account on social media regardless of your generation you have been affected by social
media in some way and I am a huge advocate for people getting their heads out of their phones
like seeing the world around them and the fact that Alex was writing a feature film that had
comedy drama color and was so creative and different and was putting that message out there
for our generation and generations younger than us I was like yes sign me up I want that's the
kind of art in story I want to put out into the universe so that is what brought me to the film
did you almost feel like it might have been even therapeutic making something like this just
because it affects everything yeah I mean being in this industry you know we are on brands you know
we're putting out you know who we are as a small business and so social media is a necessary
evil in my field and I think being a part of this film it was a great lesson to be like okay how
do I do this safely keeping my mental health and tax but still you know using it for my benefit
so it's absolutely therapeutic a big lesson for me for sure
excellent being a man of a certain age a lot of people of my ilk and I said I am so happy that
social media was not a thing at this point in my life because sometimes the skeletons need to
stay in the closet some of us have referred to that as evidence where glad was buried allegedly remember
my favorite word in the English language that's true I do have to write a check to my attorney now
don't I okay again I'll let you oh that's two checks was there ever a point in shooting this where
you are like this is getting a little too real because of what what from what I'm reading what
she's dealing with it's that whole at what point do I need to rely on myself for relevance versus
others absolutely I mean again being in the entertainment industry it's it's a lot of like
well what do people think of my talent what do people think of my career uh
and then what do I do for me like I got into this industry for me because I loved it I loved
stepping into other people's shoes I loved telling stories and I'm very passionate about that
and then of course it being an industry where you go out to hopefully make a living on this there
there's an extra added stress that I deal with on a daily basis and I definitely connected with
this character because of that because I was having to learn like as I was making this film
Taylor was enjoying it but I was also learning like you know I need to do things for my own creative
craft not just for the income or for the money or for the applause and I think that's that's
not a lesson that's just a one and done and I learned it and then I'm done that's a yearly monthly
daily lesson that I have to remind myself of all the time because it's a it's an easy pit to fall
back into 100% as the as the actor in the film on that side of the camera have you seen the
final product yes oh gosh countless times so many times so how many times in front of an audience
for both about three or four right five I think five yeah five times yeah so it's changed I mean
the film changed the first time that we saw it to yeah we even today it's it's a new fun kind so
I mean that to your last question one of the things I found interesting about um going into this
project as I thought it would play for more comedy but people have been affected by it in a very
like emotional way and it's like it ends up being way more heartbreaking than like I thought the
comedy would carry it through but like the people have been responding to it much more on a
a visceral kind of emotional level because it's a pandemic era right right or that's how
a lot of things and it's and it's just it's a sad she lives a sad life and she is actually very
disconnected from you know the interpersonal relationships that make it you know you know
possible for us to make it through day to day and she's kind of just really detached from that
in a way that I think is really hitting people you know in the gut a lot more than you know they feel
like laughing at it like I thought people would be able to laugh at the character a little bit more
but they're really feeling for her a lot quicker when I expected I thought that we'd kind of
sneak up on people and they feel something when it really spirals out of control but they're
they're with her all the way through it because it's you know it's really is just kind of a sad
life that she leads. Do you think that that might have more to do with the audience that have seen
it when it does get to a wider audience that maybe the comedy will play like you expected?
Yeah I mean I I hope so I hope that the comedy comes back but I've actually really embraced
that it like that's not what's really working about it you know what I mean and like it really I
kind of changed from calling it a dark comedy to calling it more of a dramedy because it really
is like it's it's about her journey and it's about that's what people are engaging with with the
movie and and that was always baked into the DNA of it so you know I don't I don't feel like
that's betraying what we were setting out to do but it's just that's the way people are engaging
with the movie and so I'm all for like giving them more of that because I was always worried
more about the comedy because I'm way more in my other work I've definitely I definitely strayed
way more serious so no I feel like that kind of is where the things are landing and that's okay
with me awesome we're getting the high sign because we got seven minutes till the movie okay oh yeah
yeah we are on short time and we don't want to keep this show is built on blame myself promotion
shame myself why I can't get that right today so before we let you go enjoy the evening
social media working they get to the film give me everything we're well so yeah we as funny
as it is we've been so buried in it like that like we haven't even like set that up yet to do like
a big push in the campaign essentially right now I'm putting together all the promotional we're
almost so on brand it's a thing we're going for all right well no we've made a big you know it's
going to be at under in the influencer film or something like that at some point and we're
going to do a big campaign and we're going to you know put Taylor through some paces and
maker come back and help me with it because that will be the best way to do it but I think that the
idea is that we want to be able to do that when there's something actually tangible to push you
know I'm making a big push for distribution in the next six weeks or so and after that we're
going to kind of know a lot more about where we stand and what we want to do strategically with
all that it is under the influencer beyond the lookout for it it's here tonight on the
final night of the 53rd annual USA Film Festival thank you guys so much for hanging out
you guys thank you go enjoy the opportunity after right you got it perfect enjoy
the clubhouse podcast we are live to tape tonight at the 53rd annual USA Film Festival
at the Angelica at Machin Gert station we've been having some audio problems on the recording
so I'm going to have to go to a motto recording on this one I combine the audio
say lavi we get it done we get it done we're having a good time that's all that matters I need to
sip of my tasty beverage but yeah no that's I was curious about that one because I was also
reading the write-up for under the influencer which we got hitting in five minutes which
Don now played director for them on where their house was but it fascinating to hear about
especially when you realize there was an ingrained involved in in the real world to then turning it
into film I and usually we hear that with like documentary stuff which always is fascinating
but to see it go into a full dramedy characteristic as he was talking about really really sounds great
and I'm really glad that we got to talk to them do you see the the write-up that we got on or what
the other write-up we got on our film and a done to Don Teba's Mr. McAdams how you doing
let everybody know who you are sir we're excited to have you with us I am film
McAdams that's another reason I wish we had the video with us because he showed us his badge
so he could say I am who I say I am I love Anna Alexander Boeing do I really got to wear this she
goes yes well it for obviously this is with being the auditory medium ice-outed like the weird
fanboy because I was like Mr. McAdams there's no name tag I was like oh sorry I'm gonna settle
down no Mr. Mr. but we always we always have to be respectful first and give you the opportunity
to tell us how you like to be referred to we're like vampires we have to be like ADR right it can
be additional dialogue recording we can do ADR for this what's up guys bully high it looks like it
just got out that's my co-star okay we'll give her a minute to shake hands and kiss babies
bully high looks like the screening just got out yes how to go unbelievable like
for me like I've made about 10 of these movies and this one is so personal took four years to make
I was here eight years ago with Gowas Road Ernie Hudson Kevin Sorbo you know it was the commercial
movie but it was still a movie about getting over death I lost my brother on a motorcycle accident
and my dad died last night at 9.50 so that was like boom you know crushed to the heart and they're
like I can't believe you're here it's like my dad would have wanted me to come here you know
tough guy ex-professional baseball player just like you know go to the game so that was it's like a
you know someone asked me today how do you feel I'm like I'm sad and I'm happy does that make
any sense absolutely and it does makes sense because my dad's in heaven I believe that he's not
in pain anymore and he's watching you do and I know it's all cliche whatever but like I believe in
that stuff that's too I you know like something I have atheist friends and I'm like they're my editors
you know they're my like you know like this is the story we got to stick to this but I'm like
my response to an atheist is like I want to believe in something and not nothing and it's like
you can do whatever you want but I just want to believe in something you know just maybe
so for me it just gives me peace of mind and you know so this film has been tough and this film
there's a lot of levels yeah as I was doing my pre-work before the show talk about because there's
a lot going on here but we want to start by tell tell the people at its core what this film is
well gala's road is on pureflix which is the christian Netflix and my distributor called me and
said bill they're not going to take this movie because there's a gay character in the film and I'm like
but they should take this movie because there's a gay character in this film
you know there's gay Christians and they're in Texas and they need someone to talk to
so they can like not be in a closet and like hiding with all these emotions so that's
her in real life and then the mean girl was always mean and I was I always wondered why she was so mean
and I'm like we have to answer that question so I go back to all right well I'm 53 years old
I'm Catholic I got molested at 12 and we're not supposed to talk about it
but I was wondering why my marriage didn't work out why no relationship ever work out
and I masked these emotions from 12 years old so I gave the mean girl my story so it's kind of like
a halfway point of coming out and like sharing my story without like me playing the part
that you know so I gave her my story and it works nicely because I can still
cathartically overcome this trauma but also silences not the answer goes with anything
whether you're going to fight with your mom or your dad or your son to not talk about something
and just bury it is not the right approach so it's more of an idea of like getting kids to talk
to either other kids or adults and not be afraid of anything you know we should be able to share
any any you know trauma or problems we're going through like with anybody so now did you
said you when you gave her your story did you almost find that having like its own and it's
almost seems to be the theme today the therapeutic level of being removed from it 100% because I can
kind of give it in spotlights not all with all on me but it's like all right I got to talk about
this and talking to the weather for Democrat he like I'm like listening to the first person I'm
telling this to and I've talked to lots of reporters and I'm like it's fucking weird you know
and I gave it to him and he printed it so it's out there and people know now and like I was a
joke I was popular in high school I played baseball in college you know I was like cool guy yeah
but they didn't know that I got molested and that's just hard to like share so you just bury it
and then spend a lot of time in this industry to be able to get to the point to be able to talk
to 53 years old just 45 years old like Google my molester you never forget the name and his
last conviction was 2013 so he's been molesting since 83 so you can only imagine the boys that he's
like destroyed so like for me it's like you know I'm talking about it and I'm not afraid you know
I don't have kids I don't have a wife I make movies and they're my children so this is for
the people that are afraid to talk now there's one person in the audience that started crying and
she came out and said she got molested and she promised that with me and she's crying she's
thanking me for it but it's like that's why I make these films because of one person not because
of money or writer director credits I don't give a shit about that I care about somebody connecting
with my story and even though it may only be one person in that instant sure there may be
half a dozen to a dozen more that aren't the ones crying but they relate and they understand
yeah and what you're doing has touched so many lives well the movies on youtube amazon prime to be
it's my distributors call me free freebie or free freebie and that's in just like dude freebie took
your movie they're not taking anybody's movie I'm like I don't know what that means but if you
tell me it's cool I'm down absolutely voodoo 60 million subscribers so like if you tell the truth
that the shit's getting out yeah and that's what I want and that's the beauty of all these
platforms too it's yeah it's going to find it's all yeah and the thing is is like my job is to
make a good movie with a good message that that people will like hold on to and you know I came
up with Marvel my best friend is the president of Marvel mm-hmm I was his PA I was just like
little do whatever the fuck you want and he's the he became a president so like my movies are up
there in Walmart with Marvel movies yeah and I'm making for two to four hundred thousand dollars
wow you know and like I just know how to kind of put the money on the screen there's there's a
formula but you know you're not picking my brain I'm not telling you how I do yeah oh no
hey Bill could I pick your brain yeah well there's also the aspect that we may be able to talk
but you're the talent so even if we did have that we're not I learned this through like hard
yeah you mentioned how many times has the movie screened at this point publicly in a forum like
this not really high yes probably like seven you know like in a theater and like I was in Paris
last year my day job is on Michael Douglas's dialogue coach oh so like he's my my guy cool
and like he said I'm gonna put you on my tombstone bill you're like my brain and I'm like all right
I love falling down so I'm gonna geek out a little bit oh yeah but like nice deep cut I do love
that film oh my god it's one I can't watch it every day it's my head of all the Michael movies and
then Liberace which I was afraid to watch oh that behind the candle opera yeah but I was a good move
but I worked with Matt Damon like that's how I started the business saw that in the in the
information I was just dancing on the rainmaker good will hunting rounders dogma that's how I
learned how to make movies so you also got to hang out with one of my personal favorite filmmakers
in one type of Smith okay Smith all right so let me say about Kevin Smith I made a movie called
Money Shot which was formerly called Aqua Caliente hot water Jason Muse was my star so I stole
from clerks Jan Zamboff strike back those are my bull I could call Jason Muse right now he'd pick up
like you could talk to him right now do you know attempt him he might write up that might be the
rest of his night all right let's just see hold on anyway but I'm getting this high sign we got
we got to wrap up with you that I know that's fine but anyway Jason Muse like watch money shot
it's a funny movie I have heard of that for sure because I follow I was to do a lot of his podcast
I will see you pick up we are getting we are getting the high sign yeah yeah how can people get in
touch with you how can people get to this film if we want to make sure you plug all of it while
you're here um Amazon Prime to be um freebie it's coming out soon and then uh
voodoo voodoo yeah just google bully high movie dot com so bully high which has connections
yeah two Texas which is great why why is this film festival sir it was an honor to have
you with us today we're getting told with you got to go like that now you show me
I don't look at it he's like a good firm bully high movie dot com watch money shot nothing like any of
these yeah thank you so much thank you uh we're rotating more in we're rotating more in okay
all right good right on that microphone tell us who you are okay oh I'm Caroline Stella do you
want me to tell you more well tell you tell me exactly we're gonna keep covering bully high
because that's what we're talking about okay fabulous so I'm Caroline Stella I play
Nicole White and I'm a producer on the film as well okay my name is Taylor Jabara and I play
Scarlett and bully high also so I've heard things with swimmingly tonight oh yes oh yeah
like a shark I mean just I will say I don't know if you could hear with the speakers but he was
raving about both of you the entire time like he was like yeah it's great we did this story
whatever but these two it's like like he was trying to get you to come over he was better
shake hands and kiss babies I'm sure I want to talk to my father oh yeah I was fully at the bar
like ready to turn and then they're like oh come back over I'm like I'm there what brought you to
this film you are a producer on the film so there's a different level there yeah but what what
wasn't that you saw this one says I have to do this thing I feel like for me it was really
billy seeking out the people he wanted to play the game with and us seeing his vision and going okay
and like taking that leap of faith like when I first met Billy it was like at a Hollywood Hills party
with my parents randomly and we connected and he was like hey like I'd like to consider you for
projects and I was like yeah cool like I would love that but also you're probably never gonna
like talk to me again like this is great and then like he really did hit me up when I was graduating
college I majored in theater at LMU and he was like hey I'm developing this script and I really
have you in mind for something and I'd love to get your two cents on what that something is and so
I was like yeah let's go so I feel like both of us both had the opportunity to be involved really
early on before this script ever hit a set like we were kind of always you know in the know of where
Billy's head was at what was going on and so yeah I feel really grateful to have had that like
collaborative process with Billy and Caroline pretty much a whole time what Billy is a
incredibly collaborative filmmaker so no matter if you're the gaffer to the actor I mean everybody
is very much involved in in the project for me I wanted to learn from somebody who made independent
films how to make independent films and I was fresh out of college when we first teamed up on this
and it was just a grad school program essentially of learning how to from the ground up make a movie
we were also talking there's a lot of layers to this film yeah how difficult was it as you're going
through filming this because there's no doubt there's a level of intensity to this that some
people may not be ready for yeah be real with this how was it juggling those different layers
within those different storylines to make sure that you were in the right place at the right time
because I'm sure you also didn't shoot it sequentially now so mentally you're at different places as
this story goes on with something this complex how do you deal with that I mean I think at that
at that point it's really relying on both of us have formal acting training and looking at your
given circumstances okay what scene came right before this where are we going right after what is
the flow of this and then just like really diving into your character and getting ready right before
they call action and feeling that moment I mean it sounds really I think like a theory and
heady but I but that's how I did it I just really relied on the training I received essentially yeah
and really just having like the through line support throughout the entire project it's like
you know we did not film this like back to back we shot this in different segments throughout time
so like having the same people as you're like back in support day in and day out whether you were
shooting like you know the first day or like the last day of shooting this entire movie just like
kept that through line there and consistent and so I think that like that ensemble feel of like
the support knowing like oh yeah I started this character with these people and I'm ending this
character with these same people like I think that was a really important piece to have because
you know it couldn't have it didn't need to go that way and it did and so I think that grounded all
of us to know like where these characters needed to be at the exact moment that this scene was
happening to then take it a step further in the next scene oh no it's not about talking
over each other then realizing it totally how I know it's on a lot of streaming platforms things
of that nature talk about the difference that when you're sitting in an auditorium before
people yeah you know what's coming so you're prepared for the emotional notes the humorous notes
the things but talk about that energy now you they've even to every screen that it's done
No, not every screening.
I mean, to be honest, leave the room.
I can't, I, I, I can't watch, I don't mind watching myself.
It's being in a room, watching other people watch you
is incredibly intimidating and very,
there's a weird meta to it.
Yeah, very meta.
And also, you know, when we first started this,
I was 22 and I'm 27 now.
And so it's, I like, watch myself as a small child.
Look, looking up at the screen going like,
my god, that poor baby.
Yeah, I leave.
That's how I handle it.
For me, I, I'm like, my biggest critic, right?
So I'm sitting in there.
I'm not like cringing, but I'm taking notes
because I know that I'm doing some of the same things
in my performance, like back when I shot it
that I'm doing today.
So I kind of like self-correct every time I watch.
Like I, I've never been one to like leave a room.
However, like I, I understand the temptation
because sometimes you're just like squirming like,
oh my god, but that's the take they used.
Okay, exactly.
Yeah, and you don't see it until you see it.
And then you're like, oh, but I try to take it
as a learning opportunity.
Like I'm in class all the time.
Like what can I do on my class on Wednesday
that I was doing up there that I don't like
or that, you know, could have been more organic
or that was like a little like performative.
So I always take it as a learning opportunity
to just like get better.
No, sorry.
When you're used to get as an education standpoint,
do you try to compartmentalize by like,
you're feeling as an audience member
or what you think was going through your head
while you were shooting the scene?
More so as an audience member, but I like that approach
and I will try to think of it two sides of the spectrum
because, you know, in acting, they tell you,
like you're not supposed to like think about
what you're doing, you're not supposed to like be,
like you're supposed to be in the moment, right?
You're just supposed to play off the other person
and I feel like, you know, sometimes we get stuck
thinking about, oh, how is this action
or reaction going to be perceived by an audience?
But it's like getting out of that mindset
and just like really like letting it go
and like being in the moment is what we're all trying
to strive for is just a matter of like
how we can get there on our own personal journey.
What is the film when you're stuck in a rut
or you hit a stomach block?
What is the film you go to to get past that?
Is there one that's your go to film?
Oh, that was a big smile.
There's definitely an answer on that laugh.
I think when I ask good question.
I'm like embarrassed to say a same eye
and it's still like the biggest comfort for me,
which is like you're gonna cringe, I bet.
But I was a big twilight girl.
Shut up.
So for me when I'm like sad and I'm like in my field,
which one, the OG, I'll just like play them all
in chronological order.
That's the best kind.
A twilight marathon is something that I can't,
I can't, it's a whole day.
It's a whole day.
There's a lot of ice cream involved, a lot of candy
and a couple of shots.
Yeah, we're not.
Yeah, I can't just become weird.
Just you know, to get a little feeling.
And it's Batman.
And then I also live in California.
So no other things as well.
Yeah, that's right.
We're in Texas now.
What about you, Caroline?
What's the, is there a movie you like to go to
the Jews like to sit through and like,
this is what I need to kind of get my head right?
Oh, God.
Okay, I was like, it involves a dancing man.
And it involves, it involves a publicist
in the background.
So there, there's not one in particular.
It's, I have like so many swimming around on my head.
There's one that I saw recently that I was like,
I have to watch this once a month
because it was so beautiful.
And it's called Columbus.
And it's an indie film.
I could not tell you the names of the actors who were in it,
but one of the chicks was like white lotus.
So I, it's the assistant to only her name for Lily Bond.
Lily, Lily Richardson.
That's the one friend, actually, we go back.
She, it's incredible.
And that it's, I think the best thing about that film
is its stillness and how it just allows you to like,
sit in what they're talking about
and in what they're feeling.
And it's just beautiful and lovely and simple.
It's so simple.
It's such a simple story.
So that's what I like.
That's the one.
The one with John Cho.
The one with John Cho.
No, I'm excellent at names as you can tell.
I couldn't even, I couldn't even do,
I keep calling her Palette and that's her name
and Lily Bond.
I don't even know.
What, what films are you?
Coolidge, coolidge.
That's the thing.
I love her.
I love her.
What films are you looking forward to right now as a fan?
Oh, as a fan.
What am I looking forward to?
Because we've got summer movie season is like a month away.
That's true.
I know what's coming out.
The Ariel, the new Ariel is coming out.
Oh my god, the new Ariel.
The new Ariel.
I mean, that was like my Disney movie.
Yeah, a little mermaid, sorry.
That was my Disney movie growing up.
Like that in Pocahontas, like tried and true.
Oh my gosh, colors of the wind.
Yeah, I'm excited.
That's a banger.
You're going to have somebody play Ursula, like you'll let it be.
Can we just note that Caroline just became one of my favorite
guests ever by referring to the wind
or colors on the wind as a banger.
That was great.
Whoa, it is.
It's Vanessa Williams.
What are you doing?
You can catch me driving down Hollywood in mind.
Oh, windows down.
Colors of the wind on the blast.
See, that is why there should be no such thing as a guilty pleasure
because you shouldn't feel guilty.
No, you shouldn't.
You own it.
You would race it.
Let's go.
But you know what, I'm not going to claim.
I am not a Disney at all.
And I will say that here and now look, no judgment.
But I'm not.
I'm not either.
Disney was my honeymoon.
So that is true.
So Ron, I'm from South Florida.
So it's Florida law.
You have to be a Disney kid.
Or you're excommunicated as a whole.
There's also in the air tonight and key lime pie.
Yes, we're required to work.
Those things happen to happen.
Alex also, see, I am a man of a significant age.
He's approaching it.
So we were there at different times.
Yes.
Yeah, I'm also a man of a significant age.
And she is a me as well.
I've got half a century staring me on the face.
So it's that time of, yeah.
But I'm excited about the live action, little mermaid.
I mean, cocaine bear, I know just left theaters, but boy.
It is available on Pika.
Oh my god, I want to see for free.
It is so ridiculous and amazing.
I love it.
I'm going to give you, I haven't even written my review yet.
Movie comes out Friday.
OK, it's called polite society.
Oh, wait, was that a musical?
This one isn't OK, but this is it's a British film.
OK, that's take like nine different genres and put them
together and make it a coming of age story.
Oh my god.
It's basically a young girl whose sister is in a whirlwind
romance to get married.
She thinks something's wrong with his family and plans
on wedding heist and they're a Pakistani family.
So you have the Bollywood influence and works
it's way.
There's even about this much of Western in it as well.
It is lovely.
It is delightful.
I loved everything about it.
My mouth is a gate.
I know that's not a video, but this is my mouth a gate.
It comes out Friday.
So if it's one of those sounds like I just
need to escape reality for an hour and 40 minutes
because it even has that Bollywood fighting because there's
fighting in it too.
So you've got the I'm going to spin across a room to kick
somebody.
Is there a dance battle?
There is a dance number that has performed during the wedding.
I love it.
Bollywood dance number.
It's already getting to RRR.
It was one of my favorite films last year.
I'm not afraid of it because that's three hours and 20 minutes
of my life that I will spend again.
And we have talked about this.
I want to see that in a theater because it was on Netflix.
And it was weird because I'm very picky because I have a home
theater system.
The only way I could get it in 5.1 was I
had to watch an Indian film with Portuguese subtitled,
Portuguese dub subtitled in English.
We did have a wager that somebody ruined.
If it won an Oscar, I was going to pay to have it screened
in the Alamo.
It did win, but he already watched it.
I wanted the joy.
I know he already watched it.
Yeah, it's your fault.
Yeah, you wandering around.
It's your fault.
I mean, to be honest, it sounds like you're going back on this bet.
Pretty hard.
Oh, I'm not going back.
I'm going to do it anyways.
OK, I'm just buying myself time.
There are strong rumors that we are getting a sequel.
I would hope so.
Strong rumors.
That's it.
But when you realize what the film is, it's
a very, I don't know how they're going to do another one.
Well, if you like Indian American films,
there's this romcom called Wedding Season.
That I am obsessed with.
I've seen it four times.
And I love a romcom.
I love that you know what the ending is going to be.
OK, I don't mind the formula.
I'm here for the formula.
Don't change it.
And it.
Hallmark has mastered it.
It mastered it and wedding season.
Perfected it.
I've heard of this film.
It's so good.
I think it's on Netflix.
Again, names escape me.
But as long as you get the title, and everybody else
can find it.
I'm halfway of a Tik Nataro kind of person who doesn't
know who anybody is.
I kind of can get there.
You're the guy in that thing that happened before.
Yes.
And I can't wait until I, people recognize
me as a guy in that thing from 20 years ago.
Right.
That's what you know.
That's what you know, you've been in.
For that.
I've hit 20 years.
She said 27.
I've hit 20 years.
You're trying to be nice to hear me.
And I there's a level.
there's a level but yeah I cannot wait to be the person where you go she's in
that thing you know what I'm talking you know well you have to get more
credit it is available on Netflix right now all right okay go watch it let's go
what's the movie that got you interested in film oh man oh short short term
12 with wonderful that's Brie Larson very early on Brie Larson very early on
I believe she was in the short film too because it's based on a short I know it's
based on a short I don't was she in the short film I want to say she was okay
what's sure she's in the short film I actually saw that here at the
Alamo everybody in the comments I actually saw that here at the Alamo we did
this where we screen the film it's so and it's in black is it in black a
white or am I going crazy it's color it's color but it's very like dull down
there's very there's a lot of very dull tones yeah yeah it's it's like you took a
yellow shirt and put it through a wash 30 times yeah like that kind of thing it's
oh yeah and I think that's because it wants you to understand the bleakness of
the situation they're in because it's about a bunch of kids any foster type
program yeah that's a little bit more than that yeah and yeah it's
it's a wonderful wonderful film like so the movie that got me started
acting that was like you saw you're like I want to do that oh again I don't
know why I'm like with the saga's today but definitely Harry Potter and
hands down was like that movie that my brother and I who was in the
screening today we watched that movie in theaters probably when I was like
six years old and I ended up like getting under my seat because I was so
scared of Voldemort but then I also in the back of my mind is like I can do this
and I I already was like in plays at that point so I'm trying to remember the
movie that got me like interested but like that was the one where I was like I
could be up there and are you excited for the new series yeah no absolutely I'm
like why are we why are we going out of canon we don't just like well it's
already completely different past it's gonna go for a decade yeah and it's
too soon no really no Radcliffe and Emma that's the name
that's the one they they're like no man they they said no thank you we nailed it move along
and so they well because it's down you think Ron was down he said yes but they can't use all
them we I think it's because of the JK rolling of it all rally
was it JK rolling rolling rolling I mean that lady that wrote the books that made the
movie out of the thing where she wrote the books and did the thing oh yeah oh my god
yeah filmmaking it's a toughy yeah so where's the movie going from here
streaming platforms baby yeah no more festivals coming up let you get to do I think this is
this is it's you know every time I think that we're done with the festival Billy you know
e-mails me it goes we got into another one and I go great it's always but happily happy
happily surprised um you know you got to have eyeballs on it for people to see it you know what I'm
saying you could not have been here on a stranger weather weekend oh we know I know I know I know I think
we actually have blue now we have we have blue outside I know it's blue outside I came from LA
which was 92 degrees and then I get off and it's cold and I said I brought all my summer clothes
here thinking oh I'm gonna tan it's just like LA did you not look at your ad now look at
you hit it by 40 hours yeah I was I was doing an outdoor gig yesterday for about nine hours
and it was like 70 40 70 40 like hour by hour it was nuts oh I just got hammered it's all
everything great yeah well it was a simple troll the event he was doing so alcohol was encouraged
yeah that was an 80s theme thing and there was I love alcohol encouragement the cruel eight man
showed up it was very strange I got my picture yes yes that was true and the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
were there at one point the originals it was the original costume from the 90 movie oh so I saw
that and I was like I'm getting my picture with that yeah I'm sure and it happened I feel like
we've dropped into like a very nerdy hole but I it's one of those where I want to I know I know
I've seen your house in the nerd yes my entire place bathroom is Batman if there was anything in
that scope from the childhood I know you said with Harry Potter with the films yeah but is there
anything that really just like resonated the magic of filmmaking in that scope with you where if you
saw them now you might geek out like the actors the characters anything else that would just like
hit you and like you're immediately taken back to your childhood oh Miley Cyrus oh my gosh
are you kidding me oh yeah sorry yeah Hannah Montana I mean if Raven smell walked in this room
I would have a hard time any basically anybody in the early arts late 90s of Disney channel
but ring them over I want to say hello like totally that was that was those that okay it was
shapeshifting the color of friendship all right that was an incredible film yeah I'm also losing
my mind there's so many the Hannah Montana movie great even Stevens the movie great
Lisa we've wired the movie great like all all bangers high school high school musical less we forget
one in two where decoms okay that was just a made for TV only the third was in theaters and think
about how I connect well then you had high school the musical the series the soundtrack yes like
and that one thing they did all of it at one time oh yeah I didn't watch that
as the emergency break it's just we're Tokyo drifting all over I love it stunned
silence I know we want to let you guys go decompress because then it's been a long day sure
but before we let you go this show was founded on shame on self promotion got it right that time
ah I've been stumbled you've had practice what do you want to promote tell them where they can
get a hold you the social media and all the things Instagram all of it okay go ahead okay for me
I'm at Taylor Jabara on Instagram and IMDB check me out for sure um but yeah I'm super excited
to be promoting boy high thanks for everyone who's gonna watch it and watch it in the future
and we're really excited to be here today okay I've double checked my Instagram
so it's an equal opportunity that person from that thing because it's even yours yeah exactly I
don't know my own handle so my handle is odd because it's not technically my name so it's CC Stella
but it's spelled C-E-C-E Stella love the follows I am not aiming to be an influencer but I don't
know my money so I know it's this and we can make that happen I'm okay with this selling out
really I mean if you're in LA during the month of June there's the Hollywood Fringe Festival you
could catch my one woman show because if I am not a stereotype enough of an LA
it's called inpatient but spelled wrong so like I am like am I patient it's it's called the
metaphor and so so you could see that and you know if if you want to I also I'm a producer
and a production coordinator and I'm an actor so I'd love work yeah I would love to be hired I'd
love to get paid yeah amazing I want to own a home don't don't do it don't do it right now
you guys last week for out John Oliver he did a big word he was like we're gonna talk about
homeowners tonight but if you're under 35 go go watch this yeah yeah so thank you guys so much
for hanging out with us best of luck with the film I can't wait to see it myself thank you check it
out on Amazon to be it's everywhere everywhere it's gonna be on free the great uh voodoo's got it
voodoo's got it yeah that one why don't you know
your boss told us yeah go enjoy your thank you so much yeah you guys so much and don't feel bad
about going back to the Twilight movies I still watch Hudson Hawk religiously I actually have a
couple of tracks from his album the return of Bruno I do thank you guys uh right now you can look
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enjoy your evening all right we have nothing but time oh no we don't yell unless we have to
and we got time talking to that microphone tell people who you are hi everyone I'm Jacqueline McCall I'm
an actress here in Dallas but I work all over the country you're right up on that microphone
and I just wanted to mention that I've been a new TV series that's about to come out called
lesbian straits it's a very funny comic soap opera about a young woman that's trying to make it
doing her own murder mystery thriller movies she lives in her mother's mansion with her wife
and all of her gay friends and mom's on a trip supposedly set up with an older woman in her
age range well mom comes home and she's married a 21-year-old who is unbeknownst to her a con man
trying to get her money anyway it's Margot Dean productions out of San Francisco and we're looking
for backers to get the rest of the first season done and so this is a series that you're currently
working on trying to get ready for to be distributed we shot well we shot half of the series
the first season and they're looking for backing for the rest the in the next six episodes
for the first season and it premiered last week in San Francisco and how's that go how the
premier go oh the premier was fabulous in fact a lot of the doers and shakers in the San Francisco
like area were there and we raised a lot of money go a little short and it's it's a very very
funny show and I'm just delighted to play an older woman lesbian covert is it a half-hour
format full-hour format series it's a it's an hour format okay and like I said there you've got
six more episodes for the first season but we've got most of it in the hair if you had your
brothers what what network are platforms you think this kind of so is built for who do you think
could really do it the best justice to feature well most of the regular TV channels nobody watches
that it's a fair point but they all have apps too and people do watch stuff on their apps whether
it's peacock or bare amount plots or whatever it's for people that love to laugh I mean
when we were shooting this I just had so much fun it wasn't like working it was like having
having fun time well that's the dream isn't it or they say as long as if you love what you do you never
work a day in your life right and I love the makeup lady because she made me look old without
making me look really what what brought you to the project what what about it that you saw he's
like well I want to do this well actually the woman that wrote it is somebody that I've known
since junior high and we haven't been in touch for years and years wonderful very very very funny
lady who's a good actress and her family was in the industry they started out in silent movies
oh wow her all of her cousins and her grandmother and grandfather lived in a little house
and max senate came to them out in Edendale which is right next to Glendale and said I want to buy
your house I'm going to build a studio and start doing making movies and the dad said no we like it
here we're not going to move so max senate built his studio next door the boys and there were
six boys and three girls they would play out in front of the studio and they pretend that they
were making silent movies so one day max came by he was in his big limo and he goes what are
you kids doing and they said more making the movie he goes hey here he gets out and helps them
direct the movie oh there you go he fell in love with them and said hey from now on you can go
into the studio at night I'll get tell the guys you can have passes you can go and shoot your
movies in my studio oh wow and all of those kids the family whenever there was a part in a movie
for anything for years and years and years um dad got them in the right hat and the right thing
and took them out all those boys were in every movie ever made in Hollywood oh nice yeah so it's
called the Watson family and they have a star the whole family has a star on Hollywood Boulevard
and margo dean is the granddaughter of of kueh Watson and she's created this but
she happened to be doing a little short about her dog and I saw it and I do a lot of producing
of short subject films and I called her and I said more ago that was just delightful it was
15 minutes and I haven't enjoyed anything so much in the music I mean it was like a professional
movie she said well that's what I do yeah there's a reason for that you got in contact and then she
called me a few weeks later she said you know I've written this would you be interested and I
said are you kidding so they flew me out to San Francisco and union contract and had just a
fabulous time it it's a very very funny show okay so for people to get tuned if they want to
donate if they want to be a part give us give us the plugs one more time so we've got it for you
it's margo m-a-r-g-o dean d-e-a-n productions and that's a dot com they can go to find out more
see if they can help get the second half of this season done and get it distributed to somewhere
so people can see it yes all right well we'll get it out there for you thank you Jackie for
second with us finishing the show strong with us thank you so much don'ts back what someone wants
to say goodbye well patty comes in how she wants to see her in 13 days be safe my friend that's
that because the 13 days we're going to be handling the real owl film festival for Carmel High School again
yes ma'am that's going to be awesome I'm looking forward to that oh yeah wait every year
that's that's a that's a tradition now that's like up there with like Thanksgiving dinner and all
that I was thinking about this the other day as I was you know I'm a guy that's what I was looking
for earlier I didn't take it don't look at me I'm glad I read it beforehand but if you think
about it we are now I want to say nine years into doing film festivals so my bad you see
they're nine or ten I think it's nine you're the fact checker you're gonna have to figure that out
yeah we had the first was the video fest video fest in October yeah it was at the go to go to the
go to the wall yeah that was four ounces on the show yeah yes there was yeah you think about how far
this has come it's it's mind blowing mm-hmm may ask us to be here yeah somehow they keep asking us back
and we got the diff coming up next gifts next weekend real owl the weekend after that we've got a
lot of changes going on that we'll tell you guys about very very soon but we're gonna be here yep
all right we're gonna be here regardless you know good batter and different we're always here
we're like we're like the aunt that never leaves yeah but we could not be more thankful
to the USA film festival for having this out you know one year we did both of them in one day
I remember that we did USA here and then we moved down stairs and did diff that night good
that was it I I don't know how we do that yeah carefully but we did it was a blast and we
always have a blast of film festival there's no we had Charlie Pride on he was up here we were
here in the corner the new up and come her yeah Billy do Williams oh he was he that's how we
introduced himself he said I'm Billy D Williams but we have so much fun doing this we're glad
that you guys are along for the ride stick by the channel we're gonna be a lot of things coming up
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