iTunes Exclusive Episode Operation Finale

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My name is Rob I am the executive producer of the Clubhouse podcast and I'm actually
kind of interested in what we're about to talk about.
But I can't talk about it because I didn't see the film.
That's why I've got to have the guy across from me here today.
He is a man who looks very very comfortable today.
That shirt looks incredibly comfortable.
You may know him as fond, don't go but his mama name and don't fart on my calm, don't
fart, welcome sir.
Well with the new position I have to wear button up all the way in colors but I'm trying
to get the ones with the short sleeve and they're hard to find.
And this one's kind of it is comfy and doesn't have to iron too much.
Yeah some of those other ones.
Oh you have to iron those and I'm not good at ironing but the fact has to pay for what she
loves to do.
She actually loves it.
She hates to cook but she loves to iron.
Pretty nothing wrong with that.
Yeah.
Whatever we do one of these it is to review something this is no exception.
This white directs oscar Isaac Ben Kingsley, Melanie Luron, Nick Crow and more in Operation
Finale.
For something?
Yes sir.
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So in his post world war two Ben Kingsley plays the notorious Adolf Eichmann who is hiding
out in South America.
Argentiner.
And a group of secret agents I assume led by Peter Malkin is that correct John?
No he's one of the people in the group.
He's technically not played by the great oscar Isaac.
And they are commissioned to go get him and bring him back extradite him back to where
are they bringing him back to?
Actually to Israel.
To Israel.
Okay.
This is like to stand for his war crimes.
Okay.
Yeah.
So he's kind of the group kind of like the I don't know the secret service or a paramilitary
group or a CIA group out of black ops.
Yeah.
Okay.
And they got all their different specialties.
One's a doctor, one's like for the time what we call an IT person all that.
Orgers you know to make the documents needed and all that stuff.
And they get a tip at this guy, hey there's a sighting of Eichmann and Argentina.
So they do some research and they find out yep he's there.
So it's like we want to grab him, get him back and put him on trials because now we can
go after the person that decided to execute us because he was one of the architects of
the Holocaust.
Okay.
The guy pulling the levers at the, doing the horrible act itself, but he was one of the
architects on how to get people to Auschwitz and all that stuff.
And not a sweet guy when it comes down to it for what he did.
Right.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
So basically they find out that it is him after doing some surveillance and they're real
particular and how they want to grab him because it even shows in the film which is
true day, true at the time.
There's a lot of empathy for the Nazis there.
A lot of people, there's a lot of anti-Semitism in the country at the time and some of these
countries and that's why they hung out there.
Oh wow.
And so there's a big like a community of those people that were living in these small towns
in real life.
There was more than one of these Nazis in Argentina or South America.
That's why you know it's kind of weird but they found out some people are like behind
the whole thing and there's racism and all that stuff.
And the problem is is that the government would not, we got this guy, we want to take
him back to Israel to stand trial.
A lot of people in the government were worried that they wouldn't even extradite him if they
caught him.
And if they found out that they had him and they went through the political realm, they
would never get him out of the country.
So they decide let's try to sneak him out.
Let's take him, let's grab him, hold him, let's work away where we could get him out
of the country without the government knowing and sending to Israel.
Nazis there then boom.
And a quick note in real life is that when it did happen because it's no secret that
they got the guy to Israel.
I mean, there's the, it's one of the biggest trials of the, of the century at the time
of these people that they caught after the war.
He's one of the both publicized trials of that kind of ilk.
In Argentina was mad.
They went to the U and saying, how dare you grab that guy from us in real life.
It doesn't show in a film but so they, spoiler alerts.
Hold on, you got to warn me when you do these things.
Yeah, there's a minuscule.
Because I was not prepared for that.
Okay.
One moment, please.
Two, three, four, three, two, one.
They go through the plan and they grab him and they hold him.
And so it's kind of going to what they were planning to do.
But they did hold him for a few days.
Now I did read the real story, what happened.
And there are some liberties and the movie shows things differently in what happened in
real life.
And they give a reason why they held him for nine days, which is different than why they
held him in real life versus why they didn't the film.
But the majority of that nine days was trying to get him to sign saying, yeah, you could
extra dot me back.
That was their job for nine days while they're trying to get the transportation done.
Get him to sign the waiver saying, yeah, you could extra dot me to Israel.
So that's what that's and then of course they get him back to Israel.
So that's the basic plot of the whole thing.
The plot is interesting.
I really loved the first half of the film.
I really did.
I love how they got the tip what they went through to try to figure if this was the
guy to prove he was the guy.
Now we know it's him.
Let's plan it.
But the problem was after they grabbed him, I think they spent too much time on the
film with showing the relationship that group is between Malcolm played by Isaac and
Kingsley playing Acumen because these are two people who are totally, you know, totally
different realms and they're keeping blindfold most of the time and like they don't even
talk to him.
There's only one person that really talks to him like the leader of the group.
Isaac tries to build a relationship for him to get to sign that waiver.
They spent too much time I think in this film trying to show how he builds to him like
the captain and the prisoner build that relationship sometimes and prisons and stuff.
They show too much of that and too much of trying to get him to to sign the waiver.
That's my biggest gripe of the plot.
Very still interesting, still good.
I liked what they did after it.
I think they made a rush too much rushing of the end versus showing of him trying to sign
the waiver.
I think that's the biggest mistake of this film.
So they too much in one section not enough from other ones that you would have liked
to see.
They did great in saying this is how we found him and I think that flow right and everything
there.
But then when they hit the sign, let's sign the waiver and let's tell these show how
they build a friendship.
That's where it took the wrong turn and spent too much time there.
But still the plot is good.
I loved how it showed Argentina's cities and in the safe houses.
It showed a lot of the anti-Semitism by the locals there.
I mean the police were like, they grabbed this guy.
We know who he is.
We got to save him from the people that just grabbed him before they came out of this
country.
There were actually cops trying to find him to rescue him from the Israel people.
So it's kind of one of those weird situations.
Really correct.
I really, really loved how they had the cars, the automobiles.
Everything was time period on the props and the scenery and the sets and showed Argentina
in a really good way.
When it comes to the acting, Kingsley, Isaac, do you see Acts say any more?
Oh, there it is.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's kind of weird how Kingsley.
And it would be, sir.
That Kingsley man's been knighted.
Yes, of course.
Respect.
He could be like that character in Schindler's list and now play somebody on the totally opposite
of this other spectrum of somebody who's trying to, I'm a Nazi now and I want to kill the
Jews versus I'm a person whose Jewish faith in Schindler's list, how he could play that
total spectrum.
Yeah, the chemistry between Isaac and Kingsley.
You put them two together and you give them a lot of big chunk of the movie.
You're going to have acting gold there.
Acting I cannot find anything wrong with the acting when it came down to it.
Joe Awanya, Awan, he plays Ikeman's son in real life and even though his role is minor,
I really want to get out of that.
Yeah, he really does a good job.
Even though his role is minor, when he's on the screen, he makes a good presence.
He didn't try to steal the show, but you have my dad and it's like the motion he has
of these people kidnapping his dad got really, really good.
So when it comes to the acting, I had no beef, so whatsoever on that.
One thing you will like at the end is show it actual footage and I know you like to when
you do that in the films.
As you know I do, yes.
So one other gripe I had, this is my minor gripe, is the flashbacked a few times in the
film going through one scene which you've seen in the trailers of Kingsley and his uniform
with a bunch of soldiers like they're about to shoot.
They spent about eight scenes showing it a little bit beginning, then it stops, comes
to real time.
Then part two shows half of what they already showed and shows two minutes more.
Part three is, you know, it's like show half, give it a little more tease.
And I think to pay off for what they showed what happened out there was a big fail.
I think you did mention that in here.
Yeah, that was a big fail.
If you want to show what happened at the war and there are where they talk about what
happened in the past and why people have the reasons why they want to be on this team
and why he did what he did, I think they only teased it and they should have put more
in a film of that instead of more of the, let's try to sign the waiver and build this friendship
or this build this like companionship in a way where people feed off each other.
Those are my two gripes.
Okay.
Besides that, I really like the film.
It's not like brutal for brutal's sake or anything like that.
And so the brutality is real minor if you could say that.
But I think if this film had brutality, they did it right just like Schindler's list showed
the brutality right.
And so it's that kind of classy, yeah, we're not going to like exploit it, but stuff
what we did, we did classly.
So I'll give them parts, props on that too.
So.
All right.
You ready to get to file analysis?
Yeah.
Let's do it.
So we're not going to give you thumbs up, thumbs down, we're not going to give you letter
grades, numbers, anything like that.
I'm going to ask Donald the two questions.
Question number one is, would he see this film again?
If the answer is yes, we go to his second question, the answer is no, we're done here.
But if he says yes, the second question would be how far is he willing to go to see it?
Because that's how we gauge how good a film is.
So from the best of the best of the worst of the best, here's how it works.
No price at a theater, down to Matt and Ed are trying to twilight showing, down to
Matt Nay, down to an early morning, down to second run at the dollar theater, down to
actually leaving his house and getting it from Redbox, down to streaming it on Netflix,
and down to watching it on cable, Don, would you see Operation Finale again?
Yeah.
How far you willing to go to do so up?
How far you willing to go to do so?
I'm going to do a Matt Nay on it.
All right.
Still good.
I mean, still good.
I filmed the first tap I loved and it was going great, just too much on one part.
That's fair enough.
And teasing the past too little on that.
But still acting is great.
It is director Chris Wright, writer Matthew Orton.
It is Operation Finale.
Boy, this whole thing?
Yes, sir.
We got to thank Julian Josh here, man.
It's live, Fox.
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