iTunes Exclusive Episode Wind River

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My name is Rob, I'm the executive producer of the Clubhouse podcast and I like to call
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You may know him as fond Don Go, but his mom and even Don Ford, I'm going to call him
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Welcome, sir.
One time I saw the days high at negative 40 below.
Good Lord.
And days high without the windshield.
How do you even keep the power on on days?
I mean, do you actually lose power on days like that?
Some people can.
Good mercy.
That's insane.
Whenever we do one of these, it is to review something and this is no different.
Former star, I guess you could call it, from Suns of Anarchy, Taylor Sheridan, takes
his second crack at directing a feature film as he directs Jeremy Renner and Elizabeth
Olson in Wind River.
Before we start this whole thing, ready to sing?
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Some of our favorite people in the world give us the opportunity to watch films before
they release so we can talk to you about them so you can make the best decisions that
you can for your entertainment dollar.
All right.
Again, based on a true story in Wyoming, states you know a little thing about.
Yeah, whereas born.
Where, again, it's inspired by true events because there are certain things about this
that can neither be proved one way or another.
But Jeremy Renner plays Corey Lambert.
He is a tracker for the wildlife game fish commission.
And basically he tracks predators for farmers.
Like in the beginning, you see him tracking down a pack of wolves and he has to go to an
Indian reservation where he has family, not by blood, but by former marriage.
And apparently there's some lions that are killing a bunch of livestock is the theory.
He has to go track them.
But in doing so, he finds a body.
And it turns out it's a body of someone he knows.
And so the FBI has called them because it's on sovereign land.
It's just something they have when you're on a reservation, they have their own police
force and everything else.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But the FBI can intervene on sovereign land.
So they call in Jane Banner who was played by Elizabeth Olson and she gets Corey to help
her in this investigation, given his experience in tracking and his knowledge of the land.
And it's really cold.
Yeah.
I went into this knowing very, very little.
I think I saw the trailer like once.
Me too.
Kind of like you.
I really thought that that was going to be the best way for me to go into this deal.
And I'm glad I did.
This is an excellent film.
Yeah.
This is a film that I think is going to surprise a lot of people because it's got elements
of a bunch of different types of films.
But there's a balance to it and it all works out well.
The other thing I really dug about it is you talk about Sheridan directing this.
He resisted the temptation to be in it as well.
Now he's also an experienced screenwriter.
This is actually the third of what people are calling his American frontier trilogy.
Because he also wrote Sicario.
He also wrote Heller Highwater.
Both have the words Oscar attached to them, at least nomination.
Yes.
So knowing that going in, I was interested to see how this worked out.
I loved this film.
It's not for everybody.
Oh no.
Because it's very, it's very film noir.
It's very crime drama.
It's very dark.
It's very graphic in a couple of places.
And it's very, very real.
I agree.
100%.
My thing is looking at it.
There's a lot of little stories that complement the big story.
Absolutely.
I agree with you.
They do it well where they all tied together.
You knew something's going on with the him and his, with the rendering is X.
You know, in the daughter.
And so they bring it in the, they let you know what happens to their daughter.
I think at the right time, at the right place.
And there's a lot of things that, like you said, they all kind of intertwined.
Yes.
Because he is, he is a divorcee.
They have a son.
There's an allusion to another child, but that unfolds as the story unfolds as well.
Now, if you go to my written review at www.covassepodcast.com, that is our website.
I put on there one thing I love about this movie.
Is it shows mother nature as mother nature?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, I'm real life.
They're not playing around.
Yeah.
I've been as beautiful as it is.
Yes.
Equally dangerous.
Yeah.
And nice little tropical breeze on the beach and Miami and, you know, and June and stuff
like that or May, and it's 72 out.
But I've seen it where literally it is, the day's high was 40 below zero without the windshield.
The tagline for this is danger comes with the territory.
And it does.
I mean, if you ever watch those shows, Dual Survival on Discovery.
My wife's a big fan.
I, I'm not so much.
I kind of get the bit.
But you see, okay.
I know the bit and I understand.
Yes.
It really shows how this could be dangerous.
Nature can be dangerous.
Trust me on that.
I've been in some funky situations.
And this movie really shows it, even not, it does show it and does it and shows it by
not showing it.
And what I mean by that is you see like the girl running outside.
Yes, she do.
And she passes away from the elements right at the beginning is very first in the film.
That's that.
And that's in the trailer too.
The elements is what kills her.
You see that.
But then you find out how dangerous it is when the medical examiner says how she passed
away.
So you see it visually, but you also see it from being told in a different story and
a runner references it to, even before the court.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
So one thing I really want to bring in.
This was filmed.
They say Park City.
You top.
That's the biggest city, the biggest area.
But they was filmed in areas outside, plus there was some footage brought in from Wyoming
on the Wind River Reservation, yadi, yadi, yadi.
That part of Park Cities is in the northeast part of Utah, right where it meets the border
Wyoming.
So this, you could say it's Utah.
You can round it up.
Yeah, round it up exactly.
So this film really shows Wyoming in the real true light, yet it could show it beautifully.
And yes, it shows it how dangerous and deadly it could be, too.
And it's not all peachy keen, you know, beautiful skies out there.
I mean, I've been some tough nights.
I've been out in the cold weather and I've been out and I've seen it all seen it all.
Okay.
Been in the mountain top.
So I'd, you know, staying in the winter for snowmobiles and stuff like that.
And trust me, it gets cold up there in those mountains at night.
Oh, there's a down in my mind.
But the sage and everything like that.
I really, really enjoyed the look of this film more than just about any film.
I've seen before.
Wow.
I mean, that's high praise.
Yes.
Because it really shows the trueness of the landscape in a very good, you know, true form
life.
Not behind curtains, not behind the smoke screens, right?
It made me feel like I literally was at home.
If I had one complaint on that whole thing, it was that it did, it showed the reservations
and when it showed that the scenes, you know, like when they arrive at the reservation,
you see the sign entering the Wind River Reservation and showed a couple.
That's what the reservations are like.
Mostly trailers.
I hate to say it.
No.
Mostly what it is.
That's what it is.
And a lot of these houses were too nice for a reservation.
Okay.
You know, that's definitely my only, if I had to give a complaint on it, that would be it.
But there are some scenes where you see some real trailers and stuff like that.
Absolutely.
And that's why I enjoyed this so much on that part that it's probably like the last part
of my review.
And my written reviews at theclubhousepodcast.com store website.
I usually start with the look, because that's just, let's get this out of, no, this,
this was the big finisher.
I think for me, the reveal was a, was different.
It was a little weird for me, but it wasn't bad.
That makes sense.
What do you mean the reveal?
When you find out what really happened, okay, it's not, it's not like a story told
back in time, it's not like somebody's going, yes, this is what happened.
Like, it's like, boom, okay, now we're here.
Let's do this thing.
We're going to show you what happened and then there's the fallout from it.
That was a little weird for me at first, but the more it settled in, the more I was
like, okay, that's different and I'm kind of cool with it.
You didn't go in the normal flow.
Right.
And I kind of dug that and it takes a couple of very interesting turns that maybe you
don't expect.
You don't really do a lot of research, but again, I would say don't go into this as cold
as you can.
Yes.
There, and I get what you're saying.
There's that one scene that's probably about 15, 20 minutes long in the trailer and
we'll leave it at that being spoiler free.
Okay.
Is that what you're talking about?
Towards the end.
Yeah, towards the end.
At night, you know, you say the night in question and it's 20 minutes long in the film.
I like that too because it doesn't show the first five minutes and goes back to what
today.
Right.
Okay.
Let's go back.
I'm not going to tease this.
We're going to show you what happened.
Acting wise.
I really liked rendering this.
I thought it was great.
He played it very understated, which I really respected, kind of like in a hurtlocker.
I can see that.
He kind of plays that quiet guy, but not as rowdy as he was in the hurtlocker.
Here's a couple of scenes.
He's parting and stuff like that.
But he plays the quiet guy who goes in and does the job and knows what he's doing.
And this is what he does in here.
Now, if I have to give a shout out to my non-leading role, it would be the guy who played
Paul, Jordan, okay.
His last name is Jordan, sorry about James Jordan.
He plays the man in question who, how did he be in spoiler free from the trailer?
He plays the man.
It's been a while since I've seen the trailer.
I mean, in the trailer, the trailer itself and the night of the movie.
Oh, James Jordan.
Yeah, James Jordan.
He eats.
Yeah, Pete.
Okay, yeah.
I know what you're talking about now.
Yes.
Yeah, I really liked.
He played, I think he did that part good, even in the current time in the back flash.
He played, especially in the current time, yeah, of what happened that night.
You know, the flashback to what happened, and then the current time, I really enjoyed
him in the current time, because he was like, oh boy.
He sold it.
Yeah, he sold it.
So acting wise, I think Olsen did good.
Green.
Everybody knows green.
We've seen him in everything.
The Grand Green.
Grand Green.
Play Ben.
Yeah.
He plays the police chief of the on the reservation.
I call them the three leads.
Olsen rendering green.
Yeah.
That's fair.
Those, they really complimented each other.
Very well, I thought.
Yeah, I agree with you.
In green, so versatile.
He could play the, you know, the funny, he could play the serious, he could play the
serious cop.
And this one, I think he was in his natural element playing a tribal police officer, sure.
Yeah.
So acting wise, really, I was really, really impressed on this.
I agree with you.
I think all three of them compliment each other very, very well.
There's a lot of good give and take there.
Each one of them knew when it was their time and when it wasn't their time.
And again, all three of them very understated, letting the story drive it and not the performance.
And I think that was a very smart decision by both Sheridan and the cast, because this
story is so strong and the script is so well written, let the script tell itself.
And that's what it did.
And I think that the hour, it's an hour 50, roughly, if you ever take it somewhere in
there.
If I remember correctly, this thing flowed well, did not drag, kept me interested, even
what you could consider slow parts in the film, because it kept me interested on how they
lived the life in those mountain areas in the winter.
It's an hour 47.
Yeah.
It shows them, I was interested in seeing how he did his job, just being a ranger.
That was interesting.
Not much in the film, but it was still that was there, seeing how he does the tracking
and stuff like that.
So there's a lot of little things in the film, which I think complemented it and brought
it together.
I mean, you said your watch gauge was what?
An hour five.
That's that's second place by itself.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, it was, it shocked me so much that I leaned over to Andrew, who was my plus one
that night.
And I said, dude, we're an hour five in.
There were a couple of months where I wanted to look at my watch, but I was also like,
wow, wait for the next scene.
And then the next scene came, I had forgotten about it.
And then I was like, you know, I need to look at my watch at some point.
I was like, oh my gosh.
Yeah.
I mean, hour five.
That's an hour five.
Yeah.
It's an hour five.
Over halfway.
What did you like?
I don't know.
There's anything that I didn't like about it.
What would you change if you didn't like it?
Uh, I don't know that I would change anything.
This was really well done.
It was really well shot.
It was really well directed.
It was really well performed.
I don't have any complaints about this film at all.
And one thing I want to bring up, this film is not for the kids.
No, it's not.
No, it's not.
It's very graphic.
Very graphic.
Uh, there is a scene I don't know if we should save the word or not.
You said it in your written.
In my written.
In your written review, you do reference what there is a there is a scene of an assault.
Yes, all will you put it at the assault?
Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep.
But it's brutal.
There's the assault.
There's some graphic violence in this language language, but it was done right where
it complimented the story.
Right.
Yeah, it wasn't for the sake of just being it like they're contributed to the story.
I think it kept it grounded, it kept it, it complimented the story.
It wasn't just for a shock value.
I think it was needed.
I think it was really needed and they did it.
The assault I think they showed very well.
This is an excellent film.
Yes, this is an excellent, excellent film.
My only thing that I would change is probably show honestly what I said earlier, just more
trailers.
In the reservation.
That's what I'm talking about.
That's what I'm talking about.
And you're kind of digging deep together.
Yes.
All right, you're ready to do final analysis.
Let's do it.
The way we do the final analysis on this show, we're not going to give you thumbs up, thumbs
down, we're not going to give you letter grades, numbers, anything like that.
We're going to go straight to two very important questions.
Question number one is, would you see this film again?
If the answer is no, then we're done here.
If the answer is yes, and the follow up question is, how far are you willing to go to see it?
From the best of the best of the worst of the best, here's the spectrum.
Full price at the theater, twilight, matinee, early morning, on a weekend, second run
at the dollar theater, actually leaving your house to get it from red box, streaming on
Netflix or waiting for it on cable.
Don, would you see this again?
Oh, that's a definite.
How far are you willing to go?
I know there's a little bias because of the Wyoming thing.
Okay, sure.
It made me really fill it home and really showed Wyoming.
I'm going to come at it.
The full blown profile price at a theater.
I'm going to agree with you.
This is a film that people need to see.
This is a film that people that vote on things need to see on multiple levels.
This has a very good chance to make it my top 10.
Wow.
Honestly, I'm the answer.
I think even at this point in the year, we've seen a lot of films.
Yes.
I'm going to say I'm in the 60s right now.
Yeah.
A number of films I've seen.
This film's going to be pretty far up on my list too.
I don't know if it's going to crack the top 10, but it's really far up on my list.
Go see this film.
It is Wind River directed by and written by Taylor Sheridan for insolving.
Yes, sir.
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