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For the second week in a row, we are out on the road. We are live in uptown, the uptown area of Dallas.
We are at the Dallas International Film Festival. Got an interesting stat coming up for you in just a minute.
My name is Rob. I am the executive producer of the Clubhouse podcast. And I need to get show shirts done.
Alex is out on assignment this week, but to my right, it only took us 15 years.
But we finally got him to sit down on the show. The man who runs big fanboy.com, the longest running movie news and reviews site in Dallas.
He is Mark Walters. Welcome to the show, sir.
Thank you very much. Where's my check? It's in the mail. Okay, I'll just make it.
At the other end, you see him kind of sort of down move towards me a little bit. There we go. He is the official fact checker of sooner or greater productions.
And a man who knows this is the busiest show he'll do all year.
You ain't no a music, but his mom named him Don Ford. I'm going to call him Don Ford. Hey, man.
We are back. And you know, every year, it is now been 10 years since the first time we did the show for the doubts that I'm actually on that long.
He has to do that. Okay. Well, you guys know me. I gotta go later.
I'll go do your thing. All right, Mark. You can scoot over now to the co host chair.
Well, Don is getting ready for the red carpet. Hope we're going to have some great guests to talk to tonight.
We always do here at the Dallas International Film Festival that runs through next Thursday.
It started this past Thursday night with the world premiere of the upcoming 30 for 30 about the guys from dude perfect.
And if you don't know who they are, they're a YouTube sensation. They're actually building a multi million dollar facility up on the north side in frisco. Yeah, pretty exciting stuff.
My nephew is a huge fan. Yeah. So I can't wait to see it. I just couldn't make it out there on Thursday. But let's talk about some things.
While we wait, we always like to have I always write a full run sheet because you never know how long it's going to take for us to get guests.
Some TV news.
And when I read this headline, I had to do some math because I feel like it's been longer than this, but I had to verify CBS has renewed the equalizer for the fifth season.
Wow. I think it's been longer than that.
I watched the first two and then I kind of fell off.
I believe if I remember correctly and someone could check my facts on this, I think that show premiered as a post super bowl pilot.
And it did very well. And you know, some people might make the argument, well, was it because it was playing off of the Super Bowl ratings?
Is that why that's such a good?
It's it's lasted and it's doing well and you know, good for Queen Latif. I enjoyed the ones I saw it just I got to a point where my problem with CBS.
Is they don't communicate with their networks of their like affiliates well.
Yeah.
So like during football season.
I would queue up my recording.
And I'd lose like the last 15 minutes because it would start 15 minutes late and my guide couldn't adjust because CBS didn't tell them, okay, now it's going to start at 721 or whatever.
Yeah.
And it just got too frustrating. I was like, I'll just know I'm not doing this anymore.
Well, congrats to them on a fifth season.
You know, nowadays any TV show that makes it past two or three seasons.
It's a miracle. It seems like because the networks are so quick to cut a show before it even gets its legs.
Well, speaking of getting cut, they've actually announced three more cancellations.
They canceled CSI Vegas again.
They canceled NCIS Hawaii and that cast is in a tiz because they didn't know until we hold it apparently.
Yeah, they're very upset and so helped me Todd was canceled.
Yeah, that's a shame. I really did enjoy that show.
First of all, I love Marsha Gaye Harden, but I just think the show was a fun show.
And it was one of those shows that I remember when I started watching it, I thought, this is really fun.
I really like this. I have a feeling it's going to get canceled.
And now my worst fears are confirmed.
So, you know, it's like you said, get ratings.
Now I mean, I always remember that interview that Jerry Seinfeld did and he said in this day and age, we wouldn't have lasted because we didn't even know who we were.
Yeah, until season three.
You know, before we kind of get into the meat of this, can I just say, because this is my first time back at Diff in a while.
Okay.
And this festival pulls a special place in my heart for a variety of reasons, but I've been coming to this festival since it was the deep Ellen film festival going way back.
Because this is year what 18, I think.
Yeah, I was going to say almost 20 years.
And it's gone in, you know, a couple of different iterations at one point it became the F I Dallas and, you know, it's gone through different iterations.
But I've always felt like at its core, you know, there was something in this festival that really kind of just for me.
As a member of the press, I always felt very welcomed. I felt very appreciated.
And I always love coming back to this festival because the staff is great.
The people behind it are great. The filmmakers that they bring in are great.
And the filmmakers and the people that come in to promote these films seem very appreciative of the fact that they're able to be here and share it with the audience.
Because listen, you and I have been to other festivals we have.
You don't always get the kind of welcome that people get when they come here.
There's something about that if I agree with you.
And welcome on every level.
You know, they let these slubs do their show 10 years ago.
And then not only did they let us do the show, they asked us to come back multiple times, which, you know, if we fool them, I'm okay with it.
Don't get me wrong.
But I love this festival because there's, it's just got that vibe that everybody's having a great time.
The red carpets always just jam packed.
I did my first red carpet here.
Yeah.
10 years ago when we had Christopher McDonald.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
I was here and he, I was like, my first red carpet interview ever and this is okay.
He could not have been nicer.
Bang bang.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The people that have come through here, we met Jorge Gutierrez, who was, he became a friend of the show for a long time.
He brought us Diego Luna at one year, who was awesome.
And it was right after the trailer for Rogue One had dropped.
Yeah.
So the timing couldn't have been better.
But the staff at Diff is very generous with their guests too, which I like because we don't do the red carpet because what we do is a little bit different.
Sure.
We want to default that red carpet vibe to the people that are on the red carpet and because we take our, we got to take our time.
Yeah.
We can't just did it because of the nature of what we do.
Right.
Especially since we're live and we're doing video for the second time ever at Diff.
But yes, I agree with you 100%.
I love everything about this festival.
It's always so fun.
I know we have press.
They gave us press credentials.
Look at that.
Look at that.
You got to love that.
Yeah.
Anyway, I just, I'm happy to be back.
And it's fun.
It's fun that me coming back coincided with me hosting this with you because you've been a great friend of me and, you know, I, we've been looking for a way to do something together.
And so this is kind of a fun way to do it.
And right before your birthday.
Yes, right before my birthday.
A big one too.
Like 25th birthday.
Yeah.
25 years ago.
Sure.
Oh.
Don's already moving.
Okay.
This is, this is fantastic.
Don has never moved this quick.
We got through two headlines.
Okay.
Look forward.
So you get to move over.
We're going to bring somebody in here.
Yeah.
Now come on in.
Come on in.
Oh, then there goes Mark's headphones.
Now we're going to put Mark on the other end.
So one of us doesn't have our back to you at any point in the interview.
You got headphones right there.
If you want to wear them, you can pick either one of those mics were good.
They both should be hot.
And talk right into that microphone and tell you we're on videos.
Well, tell everybody who you are.
My name is Cody Duncan.
I have a short hair called where the bullets go.
Cody, welcome.
That's Mark.
I know Cody.
I'm Rob.
This is the clubhouse podcast.
The mark.
The cameras right there with a little light is.
Tell everybody you got a short in the festival.
Has it played yet?
Is it that's the block plate yet?
Yeah, so it's playing in the late night.
Late night shorts.
Oh, you've got the Saturday night, late night.
That's always a very popular block.
I know it was a lot of fun too.
It's very packed because we had it last night and then our next night is tomorrow night.
So tell everybody about the short film.
Yeah, so it's about a it's about a kid that he shoots at a bird and misses.
And then he wonders where the bullet went so he goes to look for it.
Nice.
Oh, wow.
So it's a little David Lynchy.
It doesn't wrong with that.
It's a little spooky.
How long did it take you to film?
Because one thing I love to talk about, especially with short films, people think,
oh, they just went out for an afternoon to film this.
And it's like, no, no, no, no.
These things, how long is the short?
It's 13 and a half minutes.
So for 13 and a half minutes, how long did it take to film it?
It took us one and a half days of principal photography.
And then probably another half day of just like experimental photography.
So it was like, it was a little bit of a process put it together.
So the better part of a week, really, to do 13 minutes.
And which I'm always fascinated by that because Mark and I are both cine files.
For as long as we can remember, you know, it's the process of movie making.
Oh, man.
It's a miracle that they ever get made and that they're even good.
Yeah.
But what did you guys shoot on?
We shot on a Venice, too, which is a pretty high end camera.
But it's we mainly did that because there's a lot of scenes that are just lit by a flashlight.
Yeah.
And so that camera has two noise floors.
So we could get a clean image that we didn't need a lot of light for.
And, you know, it's not having a lot of crew and a lot of lights that helped out.
That's how I'm so.
Yeah.
It's pretty, pretty vital.
And how's your experience been so far here with the Dallas International Film Festival?
We, we always get a lot of great feedback from filmmakers.
But everybody kind of has their own unique experience.
What's it been like for you so far?
Oh, it's been great.
I love the, I love that it's all in one place, which is a yes.
I love that.
And then.
And the violent crowns of beautiful theater.
Oh, it's right.
It's right.
Like I do this because it's right over there.
Yeah, it's right.
From where we.
Yeah, directly behind the window.
But that's where it is.
Uh, no, the theater's beautiful.
Like the, the quality of the projection is very, is great.
Yeah.
Like also, like all the films I've seen have just been great.
Uh, and, uh, everybody I've met.
But it's, yeah, it's been great so far.
It's my first time in Dallas.
Oh, congrats, man.
Welcome.
It's warm.
Yeah.
Yeah.
This is, this is unseasonably human, like this is our rainy season,
which, but the humidity has just kicked it into overdrive this year,
which I don't understand, but we're actually inside, which is nice.
Sometimes they have us outside.
Like last year, we were outside, but it was a beautiful day that day.
So I looked at this morning, I'm like, oh, Lord, I hope we're inside.
And I got here and like, we're going to put you guys right over here.
I'm like, yes, yes, you are.
I'm from Nashville.
So there's a, there's still a nice breeze.
It gets humid, but like I got here and I was like, I would rather be in Nashville in July,
because it's, you think this is bad?
Oh, my friend.
I bet.
I'm from South Florida.
I'm from a tropical climate.
Yeah.
And I moved out here and I'm like, this is a whole different league of hot.
Yeah.
Would we spend 45 days above triple digits last year?
It was rough last year.
I'm afraid of what it's going to be like this year.
Are you in Florida, too?
No, no, no, I live here.
Oh, you live here.
But yeah, I've been, but I was actually just in Orlando about a month ago,
where I've never been to Orlando when it wasn't hot or humid.
And so yeah, I, I guess this is kind of good training for that in some ways, you know, you could say.
So where do you go from here with the short film?
Do you have some other festivals lined up or what's next for you guys?
Yeah.
So we have an IFF Boston next.
We kind of just started.
So we've, we've had a, we played a film for it and we played at a Phoenix Film Festival.
And then a couple of other festivals.
And then we have an IFF Boston and then nothing else after that.
Yeah.
But, you know, it's been a, it's been a good run so far.
Yeah.
So we'll see.
Well, I'm anxious to see how people respond to it here at Diff.
I think we have a great crowd.
And I think we have a really great crowd for short films, which I'm very happy to have.
Well, and like I said, that late night Saturday crowd has historically at Diff,
because, you know, we're going to church in the morning.
But it's not, I'm not going to work in the morning.
That Saturday night, late night crowd.
It's rowdy.
It's fun.
And they, and they've also got some of the horror films that will show,
right, laid on, on Saturday night.
No.
Who influences you as a filmmaker?
Oh, man.
As far as like other filmmakers.
Yes.
Or just, uh, yeah.
I mean, I think, uh, somebody was asking me this last night about my short,
uh, I do think Ingmar Bergman.
He's probably, you know, always influencing.
But I always come back to Balotar, who's like, he makes like, you know, very slow movies.
And like, mine has a little bit of a slower pace.
And it was like, I wasn't intentionally doing that.
But then instinctually it just like happened that way.
And I was like, God, can't get away from Balotar.
But.
Correct me if I missed it.
Because I'm old.
And the memory's going, did you write the script as well?
Yes.
Okay.
So.
I'm just through my mind.
I'm processing the plot of this 13-minute film.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Where does that story come from?
Well, it was, it's kind of based on a true thing because I am from Kentucky.
And so I was like target shooting with my dad in the backyard one day when I was like eight years old or something.
And I just like shot straight up in the air.
And he turned out and he was like, why'd you do that?
And I was like, I don't know.
You're like, happy Fourth of July.
Yeah.
And he was like, you know, it's got to come down.
And I was like, what do you mean?
And I was like, it doesn't just keep going.
And he was like, no.
I was like looking on, what do you think there's a bunch of bullets in space?
Is that what happens?
And I, but so I was looking at the news and newspapers trying to see if anybody got hit for like a week.
Oh, geez.
So.
Well, we've all had that feeling of like, if you shoot somewhere and you miss thing, well, yeah, where does it go?
Like, did I hit a straight dog or did I hit a poor person that happened to be walking by?
Yeah.
So there's always kind of that fear.
There's one tree two feet behind it that looks like Swiss cheese.
Yeah.
And I think too, it's like, because the whole thing is kind of a coming of age story of this kid becoming aware of the world.
That's bigger than him and aware of outside of himself, which is like, you know, it's shot in black and white.
So like, that's why because it's like this limited perspective.
Well, and something like that shot in black and white, it kind of gives it a whole different flavor.
Yes.
It creates a otherworldly feeling, which is another intention.
Did it also give it a feeling of like it was a little bit more closed in because of the black and white?
Yeah.
Because I love it like with stuff like when they did Mad Max Fury Road, the blood and chrome edition,
or Logan in the black and white edition, when you watch and compare and contrast everything,
remember when everything looks sharper, but number two, everything feels more contained or right here.
Yeah.
And that's the other thing too that we did was like, we made the lights very occluded so that it was just like a pop of light in darkness.
And like, so that's just like this, his hidden navigating all this like him being unaware of all this stuff.
And like, he's just aware of himself, his own faculties.
How close was the final project to your vision?
Pretty close.
It's the first one that I've ever just edited straight through without stopping and being like, what did I do?
I'm an idiot.
Like, and I told my friend that I was like, I was like, yeah, I kind of got through this one pretty fast.
And I was like, I don't know if that's because I am becoming more okay with my failures or if it just turned out the way I wanted it to.
And he was like, well, I think it's probably the latter.
And I was like, I think it's both.
Yeah.
Well, and you mentioned David Lynch.
Yeah.
I think like Lynch is one of those experimental filmmakers that in a lot of ways kind of taught us, it is okay to take risks and do things in a different way, shooting in black and white.
Whatever the case may be that, you know, there's nothing wrong with trying something in a way that is unconventional.
Yeah.
So do you consider yourself a very unconventional filmmaker?
I try to be, but sometimes I become too convinced.
Like, I kind of like have the, I'll find myself being too conventional and then I'll be like, no, I got to do something different.
And then I'll look at it and I'm like, that's way too much.
Yeah.
It's the, it's whiplash almost, but.
Yeah, I try not to.
And that's another thing that like my somebody was talking about it yesterday and it because I always really interrogate stuff of like that I'm working on as to like.
Does it even need to be made?
You know, it's like this one just felt like once I finished it, it wasn't done yet.
Which is like not a feeling that I usually have immediately.
So yeah, I'm really proud of it.
And I hope, you know, people enjoy it.
Well, we're getting the high sign, but before we let you go, I always like to end any of our guests.
We call it shameless self promotion.
So websites, social media, how can people get in contact with you?
Maybe if they want to book the film for their festival.
Yeah, so you can contact me through my website, probably, which is Cody Duncombe.
You spelled that out for everybody.
CODY, D-U-N-C-U-M.
Okay.
And I'm on Instagram as well.
And I'm a, you know, I've been a cinematographer for 10 years.
So I've got a, there's a lot of, you can just, I got a lot of credits on my.
Just on the internet.
Very cool.
Check out Cody's work, guys.
We're going to keep track of the film.
Thank you so much for jumping on the podcast with us.
Yeah, it's fun.
Thank you, join us.
We are live.
The clubhouse podcast is at the Dallas International Film Festival.
Hard to believe.
Thank you, sir.
Hard to believe we've been doing this for a decade here.
They pulled me off of it.
Come on around.
We got somebody else joining us.
The red carpet is fired up right now.
And I'm digging it.
Come on in.
Grab that pair of headphones right there.
You can pick either one of those seats.
Welcome.
I'm Rob.
That's Mark.
Get right on top of that microphone.
Tell everybody who you are.
My name is Ian Harnorine.
I'm the writer and director of a film called Doubles.
Okay.
You're representing the whole film.
Tell us about the film.
The film would say it's a father's son story.
It's about a young man that comes from Trinidad who's a street food vendor.
And he goes to Toronto and search for his father.
And so this is part of the world's cinema category here at the Dallas International Film Festival.
It is.
Yeah, that's right.
As a feature.
It's a feature film.
How are you feeling right now?
It's a really complicated feeling of like pride,
exhaustion, excitement.
What else can I throw in there?
Nervousness.
How many times has the film been screened?
This is probably better.
Oh, I want to say our fourth or fifth festival.
So still pretty fresh for you.
Oh, yeah.
Still very fresh.
Are you at a point when the film shows that you still want to sit through the whole thing?
I don't sit through it.
I walk out.
I can't.
I see the mistake.
Even like even at the premiere premiere because you probably edited the film and did all the things.
Once it's done, are you like, okay, I can't watch this with a group of strangers or was it?
I'm going to watch it that first time.
And then I might watch a little bit less than a little bit less.
Or was it just like once it's out there?
I usually use that.
I'm going to see all the flaws.
Which, you know, nobody else is going to see.
But were you able to watch it through that first time or no?
The first time I did watch it through with an audience.
And it was.
That's a memorable experience.
Something that I'll always take with me was that first time screening that film with an audience.
Yeah.
Talk about some of the feedback you get from the audience when they see it.
You know, where there's some things that surprised you that they picked up on that maybe you didn't think about in that specific type of way.
You know, some of the things that people pick up on are things that I didn't think they would.
Like, I think the film is really funny at times.
And, you know, I remember when we were editing it and I was working with my editor, I was like, no one's going to get this, no one's going to laugh at it.
And people genuinely do get it.
Yeah.
Also one of the, I think one of the great things about the film that still surprises me is, you know, the film is about a really specific group of people in the Caribbean.
A really specific group of people in a really specific part of the world.
And somehow people still get it.
I mean, we're playing in Dallas, you know, it's amazing.
Yeah.
I think it speaks to the power of film and the power of this film and that it's able to transcend.
I guess people are able to recognize the fundamental human nature of it and the human relationships in it.
And they're able to see themselves in it somehow as well.
And to me, like, that still surprises me how much like the audience gets it.
Because again, it's like, it's not a tough don't to get through, but like, you know, there's people speaking in an accent that.
You know, the general audience may not be familiar with.
But they go along with it.
And for that, I'm really grateful and I'm touched by it.
Yeah.
It seems like in recent years we've been seeing a lot more film goers embracing different cultures in film, like seeing some of the award winners that come out of the Oscars.
It's very different now than what it was just five, ten years ago.
Do you feel like people are becoming more open-minded when it comes to the kinds of films they take in?
Culturally, yes.
Yeah, absolutely.
Parasite.
Parasite is the prime example.
Amazing.
Yeah.
And they had even a fall last year.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, I think this is what.
It's kind of amazing.
I feel like a lot of this has to do with the changing demographics of, you know, of movie goership in that.
People are interested in allowing film to take them to places they've never seen before.
And consider other stories that maybe they haven't heard before or haven't seen.
And there's a power in that.
And I think people are starting to appreciate that.
And our inquisitive and curious about cultures that that are not of their owner that there may be not familiar with.
Absolutely.
One of my favorite questions to ask, especially of filmmakers,
was do you remember what film TV show or whatever it was that you saw and you set with the earliest you can remember going, I want to do that.
Yeah.
Oh, my gosh.
There's so many of those.
You remember the first.
It's kind of like a nerdy like film school movie.
But you're in between two of us.
Well, we.
Two are wrong.
You're my people.
So like.
Terrence Malik's the thin red line.
Oh, yeah.
So that the first time.
Yeah.
You know, it kind of blew my mind of what.
Movies could be.
Yeah.
Of what's actually these attacks the sky, right?
Yeah.
I think he's from Austin.
Maybe he still lives there.
But yeah, when I saw his work, he kind of really opened my mind up.
Also, you know, Spike Lee's work.
The first time I saw do the right thing.
It just.
Yeah.
That movie was a game changer on so many.
So many levels.
You know, it was kind of amazing about that film is that.
I don't know who owns it.
But like, you know, every five years, they have like the 25th anniversary, the 30th anniversary.
And they do like a theatrical release of it and or like a one off and I'll always go to it.
And every time I leave it, I'm like, I think that's the best film I've ever seen in my life.
Like there's something about that movie that's just like.
He was hitting something on some other level.
Took so many creative choices.
And it's one of the issues because you see something new because now you watch it the first time and you're blown away.
And then you go back a second time, you're like, oh, I missed that because I was so.
My mind was so blown the first time.
Exactly.
It's like just like the standard sort of shot.
And then just tilt it a little bit.
You're like, oh, that's really weird.
Why would he do that?
Yeah.
And it's just.
Oh, my gosh.
It was amazing.
Yeah.
And those performances are really great too.
I mean, just the opening like very timeless.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's incredible.
Yeah.
Is there anything coming down the pike that you as a filmmaker are looking forward to?
Other films or.
Yes.
Oh, man.
Okay.
I mean, the, the slate from can looks really amazing like the new Francis Ford couple of film.
I mean, I can't wait to see that.
That's going to be incredible.
Have we got a release date on that yet?
I don't remember seeing it.
I think the.
There's been a lot of talk lately.
Can date, I think so far.
Yeah.
Yeah.
This has been.
Yeah.
It's like the.
It's mega-lopolis.
Yeah.
It's one of those.
It's just like we have news.
And then we don't have news.
And then we don't have news.
Yeah.
Just get this thing to me already.
But I just think it's amazing that the filmmakers that we grew up with.
The fact that they're still making movies.
The fact that Francis Ford couple is still making movies.
You know, George Miller is still making movies.
It shows that there is.
There's no limitations.
Like if you're a filmmaker and you're passionate about film.
There's no reason why you can't do this into your 80s.
You know, and just make a life of it.
You know, and there's something really inspiring about that.
Yeah.
There's, there's a truth to that.
But it's also inspiring on another level because.
Yeah, they're still making movies.
But my gosh, it's really hard for them to make a movie.
It is.
And so it's really hard for me to make a movie too.
And somehow Francis Ford Coppola.
It's how long has he taken him to make this movie?
I mean, he did it.
But it's still hard for him.
Francis Ford Coppola.
It's hard for him to make a movie.
Well, and as the as a writer director of a film.
You know, every time I talk to filmmakers,
it's like at a certain point, I have to tell myself like,
this is it.
And I have to walk away from it because if I don't,
if I sit here any longer,
I'm going to keep editing and I'm going to keep reediting.
And then I mean, at what do you give yourself a timeframe of say,
okay, I'm going this long and that's it.
Or do you go, okay, I'm going to go tell it's as close to my vision as possible.
And then I have to leave it alone.
You know, a lot of it is coming to terms that it's never going to be the vision
that you have that you had originally going into it.
And a lot of it is just like really playing with the material and knowing
this is the best it's going to get with the material that we have.
And that that's like a hard thing to do.
Like I teach now as well as still making films.
And I see that in my students like they're just constantly.
Some of them will never finish their project.
And it's like you it's really important that you finish things so that you can move on to the next one.
Yeah.
And just to just like walk away from it is a is like an important trait to have and be able to do that.
So like with you know, with my film right now, it was we spent like about a year editing it.
About like take you know coming up with a cut, taking a break from it coming back.
Is this working?
Let's try this.
I know we have this shot.
Let's try to see what happens if we can do this.
Let's play with like rejiggering the orientation of scenes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
A lot of people say or a lot of filmmakers will say that a big portion of the film itself is in the editing.
Do you agree with that?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
There's just so much that you.
I mean, it's made me.
It's made me a better from a filmmaker, a better director by being able to like really be involved with the edit and see what's happening there.
Like I see.
I know like every single moment of that film because I watched all the edits.
Yeah.
I watched every single line of the footage.
I know what it's like.
I know the mistakes that I made.
I know that I know the good parts of it.
I know the things that we we tried to cover up at times.
And like that's definitely made me a better filmmaker for sure.
Yeah.
With modern technology, you can you can edit on the fly.
Do you prefer that or do you prefer to have some distance from it before you edit?
So because I know sometimes you see something on set that in post, you see differently, good, better and different.
Do you prefer to do it as you go or would you either wait, get some time away from it so you can come back and maybe see it with fresh your eyes.
You know, it depends on the project because sometimes you just don't have the luxury of time.
You've got to turn it around for producers or whoever you're working with.
So we have the pressure on on this feature.
And so we were able to take the time.
And I did I took like.
About a month off from from production to actually go like my editor was working and he gave me the time to step away from it.
And that's when I could probably about a month after post or sorry, a month after wrapping is when I start to really look at the material.
Is that is that a normal process for you?
You said it differs from project to project, but is that about average or is it that very like sometimes I'm there that day sometimes I just.
It really does vary from project like I do a lot of television sometimes.
And with that, it's like you're turning it around as soon as possible because there's deadlines that have to be met.
Well, that being about being necessity.
Yeah, absolutely.
Do you like that though?
Because I feel like having having that level of deadline.
I would probably just my brain would explode.
No, it's a different framework.
I think it's I think it's good to have people that are like we need this right now.
You need to turn it around.
You need to figure it out.
You need that and it really quick.
I think that's really important.
No.
Like that skill to have people to tell you like hey back away a little bit.
Absolutely.
Yeah, absolutely.
I really do.
I think that's a good skill to have.
No.
I don't have that pressure at times.
And like you are able to like work more fluidly or more like.
I don't know how to like expand your mind about the possibilities that are there.
Yeah.
You really are able to explore all possibilities.
We just got the high sign that we got to let you go.
But before we let you go, we got to do shameless self promotion.
So anybody that's maybe not maybe not making it.
For the Dalter National Film Festival.
They want to get in touch with you after tonight.
Give the websites the social media is all the nine.
Go.
Thank you.
So the film was called doubles.
It's screening tomorrow in Dallas if you can't make it.
That's fine.
What time tomorrow?
445.
445 right here at the Violet Crown.
That's just on the other side of this thing.
Right behind this thing.
Also we're on Instagram at at doubles the movie Facebook.
Yeah.
And doubles the movie calm as well.
That's, you know, we got them all.
All right.
Thank you so much for sitting down with us.
I hope tomorrow goes swimmingly.
Thank you so much.
Enjoy the festival, my friend.
I will.
Thank you.
Thank you.
We're honored to be a part of it.
Thank you guys.
Thank you.
This is the clubhouse podcast.
We are live at the Dallas International Film Festival.
It is night three of the show goes through next Thursday night.
So I wouldn't get too close.
Wouldn't get too comfortable.
Mark.
We got somebody else coming in.
You know those moments.
I am well.
How are you?
You know this is exciting.
You have no idea.
You can go ahead and put those headphones on if you'd like.
We do video, but we also do audio.
And I always say when our guests sit down, nobody on the audio feed is going to believe me
if I say who's sitting with me.
So I'm going to let you tell everybody.
Get right up on that thing.
Right about it.
There we go.
I have my headphones on, but I can't hear anything.
You got one.
You probably have one ear.
I know I'm a side saddler.
Yeah, it's the way it's the way it's wired.
Okay.
I'm going to go.
Well, hello.
I am Annabeth Gish here at the Dallas International Festival.
Yeah.
Oh, we were.
Can I let you down a little secret, Annabeth?
Yes, sir.
You're the only person we wanted to talk to.
No, I'm just kidding.
I'm just kidding.
But we're very excited to have you on the show because we've been talking about you being here.
And one of the things we love about Diff is you see a really good variety of filmmakers.
But then you also see, oh, we got one more coming in.
Hang on.
I'm going to scoot out of the way.
Oh, I can move.
Yes, I can.
That makes it easier.
Okay.
But we're very excited to have you here.
And.
And I'm wondering.
And I'm wondering what your experience has been like so far.
But I'm guessing you probably just got here.
Is that true?
Just in last night.
And I'm going to have a lovely day.
We had some press today and some nice interviews.
And then my husband is here.
So we had a nice walk about.
I love Texas.
Yeah.
Happy to be here with the crackles.
All the crackles.
The crackles are out very much this year.
Yes.
And we've got somebody else joining us to like write into that thing.
Tell us who you are.
Hey, how are you doing?
For Jay Smith.
Both representing ride.
Tell every I was I was doing my reading.
But I want you guys to talk about the film itself because this looks fascinating.
I'm the grandfather.
Kind of.
The main route of the problem.
It's just the first time you've been that.
I call that Tuesday.
What are you talking about?
And yeah, it was first time I got to step out of the box and.
And not play a hard case, you know.
So it was special to me and.
I'd met Annabeth and.
And newer husband worked with him and.
Something was really glad to get to work with her saying was see Thomas how.
I've been around him at rodeos and I've worked for his dad.
And with his dad and.
It was great to get to work with him.
We just had a lot of fun.
The Allen family are great people to work for.
There's a very professionally run.
And there's a lot of passion going on.
Nice.
Ms. Kiss.
What brought you to this film?
Well, I play Monica Hawkins.
Mother to my son Jake and.
Also to I have a three children.
My youngest daughter is.
Dealing with the cancer diagnosis and we can't afford her health care.
I play a sheriff and I.
What drew me to the project was that it.
I think it it shows a real authentic.
Sensibility of the.
Western cowboy rodeo world.
And.
And lots of elements of how hard that is.
Don't they know we're filming a interview over here.
It shouldn't bleed through.
If I did if I arrange this right it shouldn't.
But it also proves that we're actually live.
Which is kind of nice.
I can't think of any other many other places.
It would be more perfect to premiere this and to show it to people.
Right here in Texas and Dallas.
It seems like the perfect film festival to have this.
Oh yeah, especially because Jake is from his family is from Dallas.
Yeah.
And you should talk to him because he's the.
Part and soul of the movie.
We're definitely going to try to get him over here.
Absolutely.
It's a this is this is my all the years in the movie business.
This is my first film festival.
Really.
Yeah.
No kidding.
Congratulations.
We're honored to have you here.
It's kind of great.
You know, I wrote a lot of bulls around this country.
I moved down here from Montana right after urban cowboy.
And every little town had a bull riding.
I've been Arlington.
Of course, Mesquite.
This.
Garland.
Cleveland.
Maybell.
All these little towns had bull rides.
And it just seems fitting that this is where I can go to my first film.
How's the festival been for you guys?
Amazing.
Yeah.
Been treated good.
I hate that I'm already getting the high sign this sadness me.
I know we just sat down.
I know.
Maybe we can talk after the absolutely.
But I want to make sure before you go though.
Give everybody where.
Websites.
Social media.
How can they get to the film get to you guys get in touch with you.
Maybe other film festivals want to see this.
14th.
It'll be coming out.
It's select theaters.
And digitally.
And there's an Instagram handle called at ride underscore movie.
For like all the behind the scene stuff and all the stuff you guys are doing.
Maybe.
Okay.
Well, they got to go look at it.
Then don't.
Right.
Right.
Exactly.
We got our fingers crossed that we're going to have the premiere at the cow town north side.
We're going to see him on May 26th.
But we haven't got all the paperwork and stuff signed yet.
Oh, that's fantastic.
Well, you're put it out there to the universe.
It has to happen.
We'll start a petition right now.
That's what I'm hoping.
Well, we're honored to have you guys on the show.
Very honored to have you for your very first film festival.
Congratulations on that.
Thank you guys so much.
This was so awesome.
Thank you for talking to us.
Sorry, it was a little rough.
Yeah, I know.
We should have more time.
You guys got to go shake hands and kiss babies and do the whole thing.
Yeah, I know.
The clubhouse podcast.
Ah, yes.
Live from the Dallas International Film Festival.
Okay.
That was cool.
Come on in, come on in, come on in.
We got a lot going on here.
We are moving and shaking.
I saw Alex checked in.
I see that Russ is checked in as well.
Grab it.
You can grab those headphones.
And you're right up on that mic.
Tell us who you are.
Hey, this is Philip guitar.
Philip, how's the Dallas International Film Festival treating you so far?
Man, this place is amazing.
I'm having a great time.
Great times.
Just glad to be here.
Is there a film you're promoting that you want to tell us about?
That's right.
I'm the executive producer for Water Wars feature link documentary.
So that's our film.
Tell us about the film because I don't have a thing for it.
I want to hear about this.
Sure.
Okay.
So Water Wars is a story about it's a West Texas story.
About some farmers and ranchers who they go to they go to war over water rights out there.
And it's an underdog story.
And it deals with property rights.
And it's a it is it is like a David and Goliath underdog story.
And it deals with a lot of issues that had statewide impact.
And in fact, the story goes all the way chronicles through the Texas Supreme Court.
And you know that the verdict was a was a lasting impact for Texas landowners.
What's what's inspired you to make this into a film?
What inspired me to make it into a film was that it was connected up with my family.
And so I had some family members that actually went through it.
And I was actually at the Texas Supreme Court when it went through in 2007.
So I was there during the Supreme Court case.
Oh wow.
It was it was it was close to it was close to my heart in that aspect.
Where are you from originally?
I'm originally from Abilene, Texas.
Abilene. Great.
Yeah.
Yeah.
How many times has the film been shown so far?
Just one.
So just we had a we're here.
We're all premier premier premier.
We're very nice.
Well premier.
No better place, right?
No better place.
Yeah.
What happened is it going to happen.
It happened yesterday.
Tell us about it.
Tell us how it went.
It was amazing.
I we couldn't have asked for anything more.
Aff has been just absolutely spectacular to us.
That we had we had it was sold out.
Our show sold out, like in the second day.
Oh wow.
Which we couldn't believe it.
We were overwhelmed, you know, and so they got sold out.
And the crowd was great.
We had an after party at the Rick Carlton afterwards, but the but the whole
premier was just our crew, everybody what is here.
We we had a large turnout of people that just came in from different spots.
And that we just couldn't have been happier.
happier. Do you get to exhale now or are you just like no now it's just beginning
like this is the next piece. I get to exhale a little bit I mean we do get our second
screening tomorrow. Okay what time? At 12 15. 12 15 right behind us. Right behind us
yes. 12 15 right so I'm excited about that so I do get a little bit of time to exhale
but you know we're still we're still cranking on that one as well. Do you have a Q&A
yesterday and tomorrow? I think yes we have a Q&A both both yes. All right they're already
giving us the high sign we must be cycling through. Yeah David real quickly tell us where
people can find out more about the film. There we go. Well right now we don't have a distribution
we're looking we'll be we'll be definitely looking for one in the future but right now
just stay tuned and you know we're going to get a hold of you. Yeah we're going to find you.
Red Aces production. There you go. Red Aces production. Check me out. The look gets
hard on everything. Everything you got it. All right thank you so much. We're so glad
things went well for you. Thank you Philip enjoy the festival. Red Aces production.
Don has got us on a tight time schedule today. All right. Mark's caught up in his wires.
This is the clubhouse podcast we are live at the Dallas International Film Festival. We
are just man cavalcated stars happening. I don't know we've ever moved it this quick
place. Yes please have a seat. I got one pair of headphones but I got two microphones.
That's Mark I'm Rob go ahead get right on top of those microphones tell everybody who
you are. Well my name is Noah Lolland one of the actors from Dear Camp 86 and my name
is Elven Dyke Suboxin if that sounds like a pseudonym it's because it is my real name
is Harold Crock. Hey fair enough. And can I say Dear Camp 86 maybe my favorite promo
poster of the festival say right over there. Right over there. Thank you. It's a good
looking group. It's a group of refinery. Say plug in plug in the refinery in Los Angeles
who crushed that poster for us. Why 86. I mean you're you're talking to two gen Xers.
So we're okay with stuff. Tell me why 86 specific very simple vehicles rust and Michigan
and the oldest vehicle that we could find that still ran was a Chevy suburban from 1986
that we could afford. That is fantastic. It was originally Dear Camp 82 then it became
84 because we had a line on a Ford F-150 that was going to make the cut and then it
eventually became 86. That could be the greatest in 15 years on the air. That could be the
greatest answer that I've ever got. Never let it be said the car doesn't make a move. That's right.
I was going to say the reasoning for the name is so much better than it's been given credit.
You people you could say that no one's even said how awesome that is. Yeah. Like it's way
better than me like yeah it was a good year for me. You know I mean I was in the seventh grade.
That was a good time. So I'm saying what brought you to the project because yeah that's just that
I'm just going to take a stab in the dark. You weren't around in 86. 86 was a great year for me
and in that my parents were out there living a life living their best life and it was a great year
for them. Yeah well that's my own existence somewhere in there but what intrigued you to join the cats?
You know I can't pretend like it was it was something I had a lot of control over as a young
actor in Metro Detroit you know being able to work in being able to work on a film you can't
be too selective but I I mean I here's the thing I praise I praise the only thing is I can't
pretend like that's not the truth because I would have loved to have done it but I got sent it
by an old acting coach you said hey wanted to keep in touch hope you're well here's here's the tape
I'm this my first project that I ever did. Well let's talk about the project itself. I mean I could
read it from here but I want to hear the the the plot from your stand. I've had two margaritas you
should probably read it from there. I don't know that might make it easier than for fun. No it's okay
so it's a story of a group of close friends in the fall of 1986 who climbed into the cab of a 1986
Chevy suburban and head north to the greatest place on earth which we all know is deer hunting camp
where they happened to cross paths with a local woodland spirit who's out to avenge the death
of an indigenous woman and things go very badly for them in the forest. Did you shoot it in a
quote unquote 80s style? Oh yes it isn't so great. The film is in homage to those great 80s horror films
we've got some very iconic shots that you know speak to that era and it's campy it's fun it makes
it folks funded itself I think one of my good horror film does though there's a level of self-awareness
that has to be absolutely I mean at one point one of our character one of our characters says a
bar fight how original but we had to play that in any movie almost incredible cast you know Noah
Noah you know I have after the movie blowing up with his Netflix series he's just been a great
champion of the movie we loved having him in the cast I just he's such a great guy he's a
wonderful person all the things he hear about him being so incredible are all true he's so pretty
we called him River de Caprio because he looked like a love child I'll lean out of Caprio
yeah I never feel like those shoes I'll never say that ever out loud has the has the film
happened yet is it getting ready to happen because they don't I don't have the schedule in front of
yes it's on at 10 o'clock tonight oh you've got the time come on down I think there's actually
learning the don't come on down and cheer outside there you go because we we talk about so
the Saturday night time slot at the Dallas International Film Festival is that horror film slot it's
very popular yeah so the fact that you guys got that 10 o'clock slot is nothing sort of like that
that shows you how much the festival is really behind this film we're already getting a high sign
which is crazy we've been blowing and going tonight but I'm not gonna let you guys go without
promoting websites social media the whole thing after the so if you want to get a hold of you
after the festival where can they find you yeah I'm you know Instagram's a great place Noah
that's my name you look that up I hope that you get close enough to find something and I was
completely not prepared by our team for this so but I'm sure if you search deer camp 1986 movie
I'm sure you're going to find us somewhere heading toward a theater near you may 31st coming out
and see the film it's a great film for a communal experience sitting in the dark with a bunch of
friends watching this movie it's so much fun and it's a night at 10 o'clock if you got tickets great
if you didn't if you didn't I'll be standing outside the theater doing recap I will for go my movie
going for the fans thank you guys really appreciate you so much I can't wait to see it here
about how it goes tonight deer camp 86 oh my childhood so great this is the clubhouse podcast we
are live at the Dallas International Film Festival oh I need to take a breath and we're only at
the halfway point this is insanity y'all come on in I don't know if we're going to be able to
get everybody in frame here come all the way down come all the way down I don't bite unless
provoked so you're okay I'm Rob that's Mark oh yeah I'm gonna scoot as far over as I can because
we got a lot of people to put in this frame hey you know what oh wow it's like my high school
band pictures this is awesome all right get right on top of that thing tell everybody who
you are all right great I'll start us off I'm I'm brave brown I'm the director of beer cats we're
still here I'm Kelsey key I'm the executive producer of beer cats we're still here Chad
Trigales head football coach and subject I get get right up on my microphone because I want
everybody here you shy don't be shy Chad Trigales head football coach and subject
world premiere at the Dallas International Film Festival that's right nice we're afraid
God you here they haven't given me the schedule so it has has it happened is it fixing to happen
it happened this this afternoon at 12 30 we screened at the Texas theater and the game on
short's block is really fun so you got to even go to the Texas which oh yeah there's something about
the Texas theater when you walk in like you feel that history and for people that don't know
the Texas theater is where the Harvey Oswald was found and arrested and every year on the
anniversary they actually rope off his seat and play the movie he was watching at the time but
tell us about this film so I'll start so this film is it started out as a amazing highlight
real for my son who's standing here Liam it was his first year to be a starter he's been playing
in P.W. football for several years but this was his first year to like he was in he was starting
and we were excited as parents and we thought okay well let's get a highlight real like we've
got the we've got the gear we have a production company something from nothing productions
there you go James I love I love shameless self-promotion a little shameless plug so yeah we thought
why not get some amazing footage and about I don't know I'd say by game three we were hearing
the you know the coaches give speeches and pump up these boys and and not only that the kids are
really good we thought okay let's get some different gear let's switch the lens let's get a
little closer and start filming more practices and by that point we knew we had a film on our hands
and it looks like there's an underlying story here coach if you want to talk about the underlying
story of what comes from this documentary from what I'm reading yeah I think the biggest underlying
story that they're really trying to portray in this was that the life lessons we teach the boys
through sports and through football and how they can apply those to their everyday life and it
you know to me as a football coach it's not so much about winning the games it's developing these
boys in a young man and seeing them flourish not just on the football field but in the classroom
and then laugh when they move on and out was it filmed in the 2023 season yeah we filmed last fall
so from August to November so you've had some time away from it then you come what was it like
watching it especially for you guys because you guys had to watch yourself on the biggest screen
you've probably ever seen yourself on was that weird was it cool you get right up on that microphone
bro that's what we're here for was it super cool were you okay that's me that guy right there that's
me yeah I told everybody that see I am I would too yeah I had a route I had a really cool time uh I see
myself I got so excited I mean I thought it was the coolest thing ever yeah it was definitely one
of the number one experiences in my life it was pretty it was pretty cool seeing myself on a big
screen did you guys get to do the do a Q&A after go ahead go for it I just really liked the
document I just really liked the video I've seen everyone in there yeah that's awesome how was it
when you guys are you know your business you're all what are they called you standing on business
out there it's out the kids are saying now don't let this fool you this is yeah I am all hold uh
when you got cameras watching everything that you're doing are you able to block that out
or were you just used to it was it weird for you guys I just ignored it and just played my game
yep they're already there that's that is such an NFL statement right there yeah well I can
speak to that a little bit so when they first asked me if they could film some practice and get
some highlights of Liam say I thought he was just gonna be out there with his iPhone getting
a couple of videos and you know getting on split pick or whatever it is and putting
things together I don't know yeah I didn't know what we had going on here but next day I know
they show up this professional equipment and stuff but but they really they they say very
discreet as far as practice goes I might glance over over every now and then it's in video and but
99.9% of the time I never knew they were there so and then the same thing with the boys so
everything in the in the film was completely raw it's just nothing scripted it's exactly the way
it happened how did the premiere go it was so much fun we got to screen with the Dallas
Mads maniacs film and some of them came out and we're hooting and hollering I have a very good
buddy who is a man yeah they are so so fun so it was a great time that I think the boys enjoyed
seeing themselves and of course seeing themselves after a few months of being out of football season
it was like oh yeah we forgot all this happened and and we're gonna do it all over again in
about three months yeah we got to start training and get ready for sixth grade and takes place in
Alito that's right for people that don't understand the the geography of Texas tell everybody
where Alito is so Alito is just a little bit west of Fort Worth to the small town but they are
known for football man like it is serious business the high school team it has won the state championship
in Texas for 12 years so it is there's some big shoes to fill but obviously you can see that they
start a young so for where we are it's about an hour and a half south west of where we are in
because we're actually in for those of you that don't know we are in what's called uptown which
is the south side of Dallas almost to the central side of Dallas of how are you guys think of like
is this the project to let me try that in English for you at this point because I mean you guys are
young is this what you want to pursue is this the thing for you right now or are there other sports
that you play as well yeah I play a lot of sports I play I do track as well and I love that too
what about you my friend uh I play a lot of I play some baseball I play travel ball I just feel
like football and lacrosse uh I play soccer and basketball I mean I really can't choose but I mean
between soccer and football I mean it's pretty much the same thing to me and I love football
football and football yeah it's football basically football that's right I'll be honest I don't play a lot
of other sports I mean I play football that's about it I play some esports on the side but you know
what see here's the thing when I was a kid that's all old people would say is like why do you play
video games you'll never be anything do it and these kids are making millions of dollars
like I see a controller now and I'm like yep got nothing it's too many buttons man it's too many
but then there's 12 triggers I get very confused like I'll end up like looking up and it's
and I'll just spend in circles when I try to play video games I'm like this is not how
controllers were when I was a kid like I let me have a little light gun I'm gonna light gun or
I'm Genesis it was very easy I was a big Genesis guy love it or I have like or if I have like
pinball I can do pinball it's fine I see people playing like college duty I'm like this looks
incredible but there is no way but see I'm a football guy too life begins in August ends in
early February yeah my dad who's standing over there in that purple shirt Tarleton he's
Reppinum play football his entire life and then was blessed to have three daughters who did not
play football so being able to kind of share this with my son who is his mini me has been really
special what is do you have any other plans for the film after this festival yeah so we have
that we've submitted the film to a few more festivals that were waiting to hear back on and uh
it's really just kind of open to what comes next with this I think Alito is a great subject
to document and tell a story about how integrated football is into that community like Kelsey said
you know it is basically from the moment these boys can stand up they're playing football and it's
the reason why they've been so successful try that again with being English uh it's the reason why
they've been so successful or for so many years is because of you know the dedication they have
in that town so yeah um we're excited to see where it goes next not quite sure though coach what
was it like for you watching the final product out there because coaches are always going to be
more critical period and a statement it kind of comes with the territory but for you to watch you
that's got to be a whole different level yeah first thing I was just hoping I didn't say anything too
stupid so I call that everything yeah so but no it was really rewarding to watch the whole thing
come together and you know just when you're out there just coaching every day you don't really
pay that much attention to how you appear to everybody else on the outside so it was really nice
to see you know really kind of how we did you know come off towards the boys and other families and
the other coaches I've got their leadership with the boys so it was really refreshing and kind of
really kind of made us feel like that yeah we are doing things the right way I just got the high
sign so we gotta let you guys go have fun and do other things but before we go I need more shameless
self promotion where can they follow you guys websites social media is the whole thing go absolutely
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here beyond the lookout for it all these guys are appreciated oh thank you hey you know what you
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that was awesome because I was worried I was like how are they all gonna fit in here I think Don is
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thanks for coming on yeah of course kind of a crazy night right but in a good way in a really
good way absolutely everybody's having fun oh yeah we just got out of the screening of the dead
don't hurt and then don't grab me and brought me here okay on your sheet on the original producer
and director of the show called the Tiger King can we can I just say can I just say on behalf of
everybody during covid thank you for giving us something to watch oh yeah absolutely absolutely
yeah but yeah so I shot the Tiger King I also produced cheaters here in Dallas with Bobby Goldstein
I've done that for the last 20 years and that's you want to talk about a show that has had legs yes
like 23rd season that's amazing I was queuing something up on my DVR the other night
and it started with the end of cheaters and I was like this show is still on this is amazing
you're doing something like Tiger King which became it was a force of nature
phenomenon absolute force of nature yes as you're filming that do you have any inkling or you
like you know what this is going to be a thing that's going to be worse or do you got like you know
like this thing's going to be huge you know we actually shot the Tiger King pilot in 2013
Jason Carbone you know the creator of the bachelor his then company was a good clean fun so I
produced and directed the original sizzle reel which sold the program into pilot in 2013
um the staff had their accident at that time and and that canceled the pilot and like you said
you wouldn't you know I knew it was going to be big and all the great things that are about the show
that uh you know Joe was uh you know a gay gun carrying polygamous redneck with 200 tigers
I feel like you've gotten that part of it down because you said that so fluidly crafted
the slides back then and uh you know we even called it the Tiger King pilot but it it would take uh
you know Joe getting set up and uh and the murder for higher conspiracy uh for it to really come
to the forefront but yeah 2016 2017 I was probably deleting footage to make room on hard drives
because nobody's going to watch this crazy zoo show and what was I mean it was almost a perfect
storm because you guys hit a lot of first yep like this was really the first Netflix documentary
much less a documentary series that just just went just took off uh yes definitely definitely
definitely I think it had to do with uh COVID as well you know everybody was trapped in their homes
and uh and we get you get them stories they didn't have before there wasn't it wasn't the 97th
rerun of them watching friends again exactly you know um you know it's unfortunate as the narratives
that you know we didn't have creative control over it about the only the about the only facts you
can garner from the Tiger King series are you know Joe exotic was set up and uh and uh Carol
Bass can kill her husband so other than that they take a lot of artistic uh direction but but
yeah when did you get the first numbers in because I want to know about that moment where you looked
can can some uh well double check this because well to be honest I was kind of uh you know
I was tricked into interviewing with them um not tricked but they told me we're making the show
about big cat owners Joe exotic might be in an episode would you be interested in talking to us
and showing us some footage and uh and so I was in the time square in January of 2020 and if you
watch the original Tiger King trailer about 60 to 70 percent of what you're watching is stuff that
that I personally shot not even stuff like oh wow but and they have this original trailer playing
and it was playing on every screen in time it was a time square takeover and I have and it was
just this trailer with the Netflix logo and I and I have no clue what this cost but I immediately
called the executive producer it was like well I can't even say which I don't know uh
there's somebody hacked every screen in time square there's something going on just like I was
like you know you said the show might be about big cat owners well it's Joe exotic it's called
the Tiger King which was Joe exotic the Tiger King was our pilot episode and uh and and yeah
and then I was like and then what does this cost for the time square takeover you know
and can you buy me a hot dog while I'm down here exactly exactly but it all ended up working out
and uh you know I still work with Joe to this day I just got back from Florida we were uh you
know I managed Joe exotic okay this day and uh he had a civil trial won the rights to all of his
music back oh wow that's right in federal court um and we had a rally in Pensacola we had a lot of
free Joe exotic supporters um outside the civil courthouse so it was great you know um what would
you say it's the number one thing about Joe exotic that people misunderstand or maybe make
their own call that they're just completely off of that you know that people want to call Joe
an animal abuser a lot yeah and and actually that's exactly the opposite you know Joe lived on a
farm where he took care of 200 big cats hundreds of other exotic animals he he was to bed after
midnight up before 5 a.m. and and there's several misconceptions here one you don't amass 200
big cats because you're getting rid of when when when when they're too large right and two tigers
aren't like a dog or another animal that you can abuse it's a tiger yeah if you abuse or you're
rough you you treat these animals bad they they're very intelligent they're going to remember
and so yeah so it's some misconceptions and Joe's and Jail for some wildlife charges related to
uh and it which is actually funny they charged him with taking an endangered species which is
actually supposed to protect like bald eagles in the wild right so it's a different thing when
he's putting down a old sick tiger at his tiger ranch but yeah the the biggest misconception is
that and that he doesn't like is that he's an animal abuser because you know Joe gave up decades
of his life taking care and rescuing animals and so that's kind of the opposite you know the
opposite of the spectrum yeah what was your origin to this whole story you know I worked with uh
I started shooting we started shooting cheaters in 99 with Bobby Goldstein and uh of course I didn't
start out a producer you know I got coffee I did everything I worked so that was a PA I did sound
I did camera and it proved to be an excellent you know uh proving ground um but uh but yeah I think
I'd done that about 10 years and I was venturing out looking for my own trying to make my own way and
and I came across this project in Oklahoma and and it was the tiger king which wouldn't be pop
was way ahead of its time you know like I said now it's very normal to see oh it's another you know
gun carrying polygamous redneck with several husbands and 200 back that old song yeah well the thing
that uh always amazed me about tiger king is the fact that I had never seen especially a documentary
series that had the kind of word of mouth to where everybody I knew was talking about it I mean
there's no advertising you could have done that would overcome the word of mouth that it was
getting just from person to person and it was incredible no absolutely and the memes the memes
it spawned I gotta be honest with you I think the memes are even superior to the production itself
yeah they're solid gold the memes that we got out of it so how was your time on the red carpet I'm
assuming we just pulled you out of that tomorrow you're gonna watch tomorrow he was at the you were at
the dead I was at the dead don't hurt yeah okay I wanted to see a vigo mordancense piece you know
yeah it was good it was good yeah almost at the dead don't die that's a whole different movie
that was out a couple years ago the only time I almost I actually shouted something in a theater was
with at the big moment at the end of that film and I think I broke all the other critics in the room
with it because that moment happens and I was just so frustrated I was like get there it's something
we have to be getting to this thing and then it had I'm not gonna spoil it if you haven't seen it
but Adam driver says a line and I went and there it is like I just couldn't help myself what kind
as as a as a producer as a filmmaker because I is another one of my favorite questions to ask
people because everybody answers a different what kind of films are that are that you've seen
that are coming down the pipe what are you looking forward to watching uh you know I was looking
forward to watching this western which a lot of people call it dying art I love western I grew up
on westerns from my father who's you know I watched every spaghetti western and then you have like
just masterpieces like that peck and paw without you know I love the wild bunch and um so yeah
westerns I yeah my my friend in fact had called me that I was and it was like dude they got the
Vigo Morbson western so I was like oh yeah you know that's did you the one that was on Netflix
a couple of years ago um the same guy that directed uh book of Clarence oh yeah it's called uh
no cheese I own the soundtrack yeah I think of this movie uh something dead something it's got
the word dead in it also has the word dead it also has the word dead in yeah we're gonna look it
up real quick but since we brought up westerns I have to ask because anytime I get around someone
who's a western family like me favorite westerns favorite westerns that maybe other people don't
think about no I'm gonna be very cliché okay you know I favorite westerns I would definitely
already mentioned the wild bunch yep you know one of the best ever I love the you know the turn
of the century facts and dealing with you know the harder they fall the harder they fall that's what it
was yeah I love that show I bought the soundtrack because it was just I love that mix that mix of
like moracone and like hip hop and he just had a book called the book of Clarence earlier this
year but I'm a big western guy yeah so we have the outlaw Josie Wales we have the wild bunch we have
sons of Katie elder uh even even let's move forward some years Silverado so unforgiven and uh
what's more recent I don't know Django the remake um Tarantino's brilliant and he also did uh
the hateful eight oh oh the hateful eight and Django I'd rank up there with with uh
peck and pa and he did this all a favor and put an intermission on it which I appreciate it
what well you know the heart and Scorsese I'm talking to you they have uh I love how it's uh
three or it's like a three or four part actually now if you go to watch the hateful eight
I just I love that movie and I just I love that you know we're seeing I hate to say the old
becomes new but I'm also a big who'd done it guy and seeing Kenneth Braughna doing the
Agatha Christie movies again which I loved all three of them I just he I think he's a great
and I just watched I was telling Mark I saw a documentary the other night on amazon that's it's
called who'd done it three words and it's about the clue movie that was Tim Tim Rob Tim Curry
Tim Curry yeah and all those guys that apparently at one point hey hey you're getting off track we're
talking westerns all right so big hand for the little lady uh is one of my favorites uh my name
is nobody like that one oh no no go ahead there's photo ops going oh that's that's very cool no I
actually say I actually say people need to take photos when we're doing this because we don't
ever have documentation that we're doing it but yeah I love westerns and I love seeing the fact
that the western is kind of making a bit of a comeback with Hollywood because it does seem like
it was a little stagnant there for a while or people just weren't giving them chances and so I was
happy to see that so uh you're walking the carpet tomorrow night uh are you no more Monday what is
today Saturday Saturday yeah I think it's Monday actually okay Monday all right all right
well we're happy to have you join us beforehand uh what are you most looking forward to as just being
here at the festival what is the best the thing that you're most excited about I'm just most excited
about having opportunity and taxes for filmmaking Dallas and Diff are great you know the film
commission's great in relation to production and getting things done you know especially in a
state that's really lacking yeah we do better instead of yeah but it's better I will say this
production in Texas is growing like a weed and I love it like every year we do Diff it's it's just
it gets a little bigger a little bigger and then we're finding more and more projects that are being
done here I agree with the incentives we actually talked to the new commissioner uh about a month
ago we had a media event with him and he recognizes that and he's he's working with our state
legislature to try to because we have to be able to compete with California and Vancouver and
North Carolina and Georgia yeah because there's so much great like if you're a location scout alone like
the fact that they film the chosen just on the other side of Fort Worth like that tells you everything
you need to know shout out Rachel my friend Rachel loves that show um is there anything coming like
later this year that you that's right oh I see I didn't want to I don't want to say anything
I can talk and I can't talk about it much but um but yeah we've been I've been shooting with Joe
for the last few years so we've documented his journey even inside you know and uh you know
the journey it's it chronicles the journey to set him free as well as what's been going on with him
inside and uh and you know so there's a new Tiger King we also have a 23rd season of
cheaters with Peter guns that's just so crazy so I just got the high sign for you um before we let
you go tell everybody what they need we're just shame a self promotion websites social media
how can people get in touch with you oh yeah if you if you want to look at uh my website is
jt barnette films dot com uh that's just like it spelled be a r any tt fi lms and uh most of my
social is at jt barnette 45 we cannot thank you enough I think my uh I think the work the work
on you a little bit on the left side the world cannot thank you enough for Tiger King so thank you
so much for joining us we appreciate you jt barnette thank you but you guys didn't see that coming
that's one thing about diff one thing you know about diff nothing's for sure
we have some great people joining us don's over at the right carpet now we've already been doing this
for almost an hour and 15 minutes this thing is flying yeah it's flying you know we get guests
coming in and out and uh to to the extent of where I'm almost disappointed we don't have longer
with them to talk but uh it kind of shows you how crazy and exciting things are here at the Dallas
International Film Festival if you actually saw just to our right the red carpet is going on right now
and there are filmmakers galore there's so many filmmakers they're coming in the door they literally
can't fit them on the red carpet thank that's how many filmmakers are here so yeah it's a really
exciting moment and i'm glad to be here for it let's talk a little bit about netflix since we
were just talking sure uh they they announced this week the the cast of wednesday just keeps growing
yeah they announced two weeks ago that steve shemmy's joining as the principal of the school
this week they announced tandy newton is going to be on season two of wednesday i still haven't
watched season one but i i haven't talked to anybody that didn't like it yeah so they've also talked
said that uh this actually was announced by the trad the producers yesterday season six of code
rook high will be the final season yep and they and they uh billy zapka they said that right
yeah Williams apple okay he put up a post of a letter from the producers where they basically said no
we said we were gonna go out on our own we are saying this is the last season on we are saying
this yeah netflix is not saying this we are going out on our own terms so i kind of have no problem
with that yeah that's another show i watched the first episode i liked it i i just haven't gotten
back around to it because lord knows you and i don't have enough to watch yeah that's true because
for those of you that don't know mark is also one of our fellow film critics with big fanboy.com
he does news he does interviews as you can tell he's very good at that because he's been helping me
out all night don had somebody for us and then he didn't yeah i think we i think we have been coming
but i'm not a hundred percent sure this is like don's this is his thing don does such an amazing
job getting us guests i mean you got to say anabeth gish well and john land is the crash and while
you were talking to the still here crew i actually had a little chat with anabeth outside uh
and there's a chance she may pop back in oh cool that would be awesome so we'll see but we got
some more coming in right now there we go we did have john land is take over the podcast if you
say that's pretty awesome y'all come on in come on in come on in come on in come on in come on in
come all the way down i don't know how many people we got four but three
there's it's like they're playing rock paper scissors of who has to sit down with me
you have to squeeze it i don't know how i feel about that okay okay if you one then i feel better
yeah i all right mark's gonna step out
out like i get you don't have to share i guess are we sharing seats or we not i don't know what's going
i think there's i never know what's going on in this podcast oh we can share it
okay okay that's what y'all need to do i mean i can stand up too all right so let's just go down
the line tell us who y'all hello i'm amberley colson i'm a co-director co-star play date
i'm Laura Campbell i'm the co-star co-director of play dates i'm Kelly saw i'm the editor of play date
i'm Tracy layman i'm one of the producers of play date okay so i don't have this one on my list i
need you guys to tell me about this film fantastic um it's a short film it is about two mothers who
reunite uh on the year anniversary of a tragic school shooting in which one of their daughter
survived and the other one did not and the film is a glimpse into them forging this unexpected
connection and going on a bit of a surprising reenactment of one of their daughters last play date
oh wow yeah yeah has it shown yet or will it be shown tonight tonight oh tonight like
violet crown in 45 minutes okay so then i got to ask the question and tomorrow and it's
green smart one but tonight's the premiere how you feeling world premiere how you feeling
this is so excited oh i think i'm so excited i feel very emotional when it's like
get right up on that thing because i can't hear you otherwise oh this one whichever one whichever
one you want this is America you have choices i feel super emotional about it because it's been a long
journey to get this to fruition um and i'm just so honored to be here and honored to have an
audience and to have our team recognized i'm just i'm very excited and emotional uh yeah and i'm
assuming you just got off the red carpet how was that experience for y'all man they're supportive
here yeah tell us that's what we do that's what we do southern hospitality my friends and well
informed and various cute emotional questions oh yeah yeah loved it they're all amazing yeah are you
doing q&a's for both screens because i mean tonight's it got to be a given yeah yeah and tomorrow as well
are you going to be able to watch the film in there because that's always the big thing it's like
i've seen this thing a thousand times but now i got a room full of strangers i mean that's that's
like different that's next one stand on the side so i can like squat when i need to recover my eyes
or like shrink i'm so excited to see it again it's been like a few months since i've seen it yeah and it'll
be nice to see it with an audience oh my god we've never seen it with an audience so i think people
try i was thinking like can i sit in front and just watch to see people yeah have you seen
have you seen it in a theater never no i mean no yeah i have and i didn't appear and you've got a beautiful
one right behind us the violet crowns of beautiful facility and this is i mean we're here every year
so this is actually our 10th year i'd actually our 11th week i won't have i got to do math because i
don't think we didn't do one during we didn't do one during the pandemic so technically 10
so and we've been able to watch this festival grow and in every year and it's always one of our
favorite shows to do especially when we have people come to town that are like we want a world
premiere our movie at your festival uh what about Dallas brought you here besides i mean of course
the movie did but i'm i'm a Texas native and i'm i know James james phalus i've screened my
personal my dude that's my dude that isn't my dude and i said you got to take a look at this i hope
produce it these women are amazing this you know they're not only acting it they're directed they're
just incredible and and he knows what's up you know so yeah no pal has a few days as they said
have this screened here how many times three times i yeah three different i actually
deep lm a f i and dallas and national pups of three which for those of you that don't know those
are all three titles of the evolution that's the literary that's yeah that's how old i am
i know you don't have to talk to me about all okay i just hit half a century so i this is like
i tell these kids you turn 30 the warranty goes out you turn 40 the wheels fall off oh yeah i just
turn 50 i don't know what's going on at this point we're here for you i told my wife last night i
was like you know i did the math the other day a couple more years will have been together longer
than we weren't and she looked at me and she's like don't don't tell me those things like no
somebody has to hear them because i need them out of my head but so you got to see the girl
did the festival too yeah talk about like this year versus some of the other ones you've been to
gosh i mean i just get right up on that thing bigger and bigger get right up on that thing i'm so sorry
i'm sorry because i want to make her everybody can hear you yeah yeah hi everybody uh
you got video going too um i uh i just every year it seems to get bigger and better you know um and
and i think that was everything that questions are curated people care you know um i think it's
founded screw you know i'm really excited to be back is that because i i'm sure i heard the question
right yeah i just i you've seen the growth of the festival yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
and just to shout out to Tracy not she's on this year just last month yeah one the grand jury prize
and the audience award at side by side west for her first feature film yeah which was Bob Trevino likes it
okay and we're all about shameless self-promotion like this show was founded on that so yeah and and
and um you know i i wanted i wish i could also be here with that it's it's a longer road for that one
but um but i am so grateful the Dallas International Film Festival because my future would never have
happened without people like like Dallas promoting my shorts you know doing interviews like this
and supporting filmmakers like like these so um yeah this is this festival's near and dear to my heart
forever as filmmakers as people in film who inspires you
one of my favorite things to ask filmmakers not necessarily influence but who inspires you
who do you watch and go they get it right me los formin is a big one for me me los formin
also Albert Brooks i've a weird sense of humor i love him such a fan
saline siama i really enjoy portrait of lady on fire you know and your ghost lamp the most
i think the creativity and that is wait that film hitting me it's like hey my next one's ready it was
like whoa i know i'm gonna throw lady your ghost i just got the high signs so we have to let you
guys go but before we go more shameless self-promotion working people get in touch with you the film
the websites the social media all of the things yeah you can follow us on instagram play date the film
and we have a website play date in the film and uh at lora ea cambo at ambley at ambley underscore
koulson i'm at tracy layman films i'm very excited for you guys thank you so much thank you
play date is the film it's it starts in 39 minutes oh my god look at public school math right there
you're not nervous right there i know i just and i hate math which is the worst part thank you guys so
much enjoy the last of all the clubhouse podcasts is live at the Dallas international film festival you
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all right tell us who you are you gonna lead this one uh my name is Martin Eden this is Ian
McNany yes this is Joe Morales hello and uh this we won the um screenplay competition okay uh we uh
and we had a reading this morning oh you had like a live reading live reading in the theater yeah
cool tell us about the screenplay so it's based on the myth of Olivia Mabel so if you know that
if you've heard of that go on your phones google her i'd encourage you to google the name
Olivia Mabel and you'll see she's add millions a millions of search results there's 8.5 million
youtube videos on this this TikTok there's podcasts um yeah ready modes everybody talking about
this mystery of this woman from salina texas it's a local story just just north of where i live
yeah i know where salina is oh yeah so a woman from salina texas who was found mysteriously dead
in a ranch house in front of a weird kind of occult alter to her son and then the the the myth is
the her son died on the on the pond and she resurrected her son through some occult magic and whatever
she brought back killer so that won the screenplay competition you had a live reading this morning
in the theater did you guys get to pick who did the reading or no so the festival picked your readers
that that that it was an accident how did that work uh the analytical machelle Cheryl okay uh uh uh
Cheryl act in studio obviously affiliated with the event she directed it and she she must have
passed it i don't know who passed it but i tell you why she did a great job yeah what was it like
watching a live reading of that screen but because it free you don't have visuals on a screen it's
people sitting at a table reading the dialogue yeah yeah how how what was that experience like it's
good that you can feel the energy you know what i mean and some of the actors were absolutely brilliant
you know they're really nailed it and it's just great to see this thing that's lived in my head
you know for for like a year to hear somebody now saying the words and and then body and the
characters and being that person nice a great experience yeah uh where's what's next for it
they're already giving me the high sign so i i gotta hurry i gotta get everything in quickly next is a
movie uh we we're planning a movie um we uh in development currently cool working people get a
hold of you guys i'm so sorry they've already given me the two minutes uh elftree media dot com
elftree media dot com yeah let me lf elft okay e media dot com yeah and they can sign up contact us
we'll we'll get back to everybody with updates and the other social medias you want to plug
none of the minute but i would just google elivia maybel is it yeah m-a-y-b-e-l-m-a-b-e-l okay and people want to people want
to start following a social media we have elivia maybel movie on instagram perfect but it's not
pollinated yet with anything but it will be it will be yeah get on the ground floor yeah gentleman thank
you so much time so sorry we're going to go thanks for having us thank you for stopping by the
clubhouse podcast live from the Dallas international festival festival what's going on
not so many of their wives are waiting on them from dinner i'm like bro you saw them down
i'm just saying y'all come on in come on all the way down i don't bite unless provokes
welcome how are you speak right into that thing tell everybody who you are hi my name is
albares and i'm a writer director of the movie the wing walker ah yes and who else do i have it
hey has going on max or snega i'm a co-writer co-star and executive producer of the wing walker
hi how are you i'm Leslie Garza and i have a support in role in the movie and also my daughter
is playing julian's daughter which is a co-star okay tell us about the film because i'm trying to
find it three there we go the film is tell the story of a young widow who gets deported two
weeks before his daughter's heart transplant oh wow what's a very light comedy i'm trying again a lot
of math and tonight's show i'm not sure that's we're gonna uh so i've got different perspectives here
what brought you guys to this film well initially alonso and i met in uh in la about 15 years ago
became best friends we had a very similar taste in movies uh i was a working actor he was a director
and it was one of those you know moments of like let's create our own opportunities so we got
together he had an apartment in hollywood and we started writing the movie and uh took about 10
years now to to see it on the screen so it was that old tale of how long it takes you know how
difficult it is to get a movie funded so we're excited it got done and we're here and uh we're
really excited about it has it happened yet or is it going to happen i don't have the schedule on me
well the good news is that uh it screens here at the Dallas International Film Festival tomorrow at
three 15 tomorrow three feet right behind this here the background so we're excited about that
how many times has you shown it uh two times prior to this we were the opening film at the
Chicago Latino Film Festival i'm nice to screenings there yeah so loud screenings are you of course
i feel like that goes without that i don't know but there's a holdout at the end of it yeah of
are the same butterflies still there oh yeah you know it's a great story for us we fall in love with
us crib and the messages the story it's just yeah every time you know because i watch it twice
so i thought no maybe the second time it's gonna be you as you said not that exciting but i found
different perspective different things so it's amazing and there's also having a different audience
does that affect you too because you're you're wondering if they're going to see the same beats at
a previous site like yeah how how can you separate yourself from it or can you just sit down and
enjoy the film because that's that's one thing i'd love to talk to filmmakers about it is about that
process like yeah i have filmmakers are like i can't watch the film because i see all the things
that nobody else sees or can you just sit there and enjoy the art for what it is personally i get
to enjoy it i really do i think uh the first screening um at the other festival i sat there without
any other hat other than just an audience hat on and just and i experienced it in a completely
different way was so much more impactful than sitting you know in the editing or seeing a version
of the movie on a smaller screen so i'm able to separate myself in that way i'm happy about that
because you know any work that i do i'm able to see it and see it from a completely practicable way
and uh you know enjoy it or not enjoy it depending on the on the movie
yeah that's like with your friend that might have just spoken for you
no i mean look honestly even taking my the filmmaker hat you get a different hat you're like
looking at the screen is it bright enough is it dark enough if the sound was alright if it wasn't
and yeah it's a little bit of a torture for me uh to watch the movie but honestly the first time
i was i mean it's i've seen it over a hundred times oh i'm sure by now we saw it at the festival
in the in the theater i still got the hat on but i i've never experienced it with an audience before
and it truly was like uh people were watching a soccer game or something and i think the reactions to
me i was just validating stuff in my head like i thought that that was nobody was going to laugh about
that but they were laughing about it and so i think that for the briefest of like moments i let loose
and then i went back in it uh it was a very visceral thing for me uh but i surely look at everything
and i remember what parts i didn't think they were loud enough and stuff like that but um i'm very
looking forward to looking at it tomorrow because it will be my second time with an audience
you talked about perspective yes when you watch it with different audiences
does that change your perspective too because maybe they caught a beat that maybe you didn't
or they didn't catch a beat you were hoping they would catch does that change your perspective
most definitely yeah exactly and i also was surprised because on that opening night at the end
we had we had some standing ovation uh it wasn't that full theater but some people like you know
just standing up on a ploughing it was so touching and as you said on that second one
then you you caught some people laughing at some other points or crying or tearing up or doing
something different and it's just it's just beautiful how's the festival this particular festival
been for you guys we actually just got here today oh wow well tonight three so you got plenty of time
so far so good everyone's been very lovely the accommodations are amazing this is a great city so
just being here is really fun the weather held out a little bit that was that was the big thing going
it's like i'm looking at my weather app like please don't rain please don't rain please don't rain
please well more often they're not work outside nothing but that's tornado that's tornado like
yeah well that's the season yeah my friend was like i don't know if we're gonna go like we have to go
yeah we saw we saw the weather app and i was like hopefully they don't cancel the flight
that's that's why i just i just road trip anymore oh god because that way yeah well especially like if
we're taking the podcast on the road because i got a haul of the gear i don't want to deal with all
what's that and like if i'm going to Austin it would take me longer to go to the airport
get through everything get to Austin get off the plane it's a three-hour drive
these and it's it's all highway so it's it's easy but you know i go to say that this festival
it feels like different if every festival is different and this one is just another feeling and
i like it i like it and i'm very thankful so thank you for having us thank you for being
and i just got the high sign that we got to let you guys go but before we do we always end our time
together what we call shameless self promotion so look right at that camera tell everybody work and
they get a hold of a film follow you on social media the websites everything yeah so we have our
official page the wing walker film on instagram you'll get all the information there of what
festivals are coming up and what are just when we're going to distribute the film in theaters which
is hopefully at the end of the September here in the united states and we open in
mexico in october it's called the wing walker it plays tomorrow at three three fifteen
right here at the violet crown it's on the other side of this wall you can't see it but it's there
i promise thank you guys so much for stopping bound have oh thank you have a great screening tomorrow
looking forward to hearing all about it thank you for having us oh y'all have a great evening
thank you so much we appreciate the time that we walker guys that we walk i want to watch i
i've actually booked tomorrow but i'm going to see if i can get a screener length one so
thank you for sitting down this is the clubhouse podcast we are your one stop shopper all
things sports entertainment pop culture normally pro wrestling but we're putting that to the side
tonight because it is oh there's mark bringing us the deer camp 86 poster look at this piece of
artwork right here i just want to point out i just talked to the the more the crew from deer
camp 86 and they were pointing out that this poster was actually produced by the same people that
are doing a lot of the disney posters now and like the poster from the polian i'm not really sure
what the company name is but there's a reason why i said this is my favorite poster of the festival
so far so i mean it's it captures everything mid 80s yeah it's got that grainy look to it and
there's the truck yeah there's the truck that they may have film after we have a little special
guess it's gonna come in here and talk to us real quick i have said a million times i will say a
million more there are two people in the history of this show yeah that if we do not have those two
people this show is not what it is one of them is the very missed departed Gary Murray yes
the other one is on the other side of mark from where i am ladies and gentlemen ladies and gentlemen
ladies and gentlemen can i do it you can here we go ladies and gentlemen they're wonderful the
incomparable Kelly kitchens hello my friend get up on that microphone you know how this works and
we're going to see you in a couple of weeks right uh real hours coming up yes it will
we're three weeks away from the real hour film festival oh my goodness you know it's one thing
right after the other it's our busy season it's how's the how's the the show been going for you
oh it's been going so great so i did um i did the publicity for water wars and you had
Philip guitar on yes we did Philip was really nice a lot of energy i like that guy so i mean my gosh
this film is okay so a city girl right here does not pay attention to what is underneath the land
that we live on and this i mean this uh rent these ranches and and farms in deep west Texas
have a huge aquifer underneath them and oh my gosh who does that belong to it's it is amazing i
really learned so much and he said it went really really well yeah and i don't know talk about
the perfect festival to premiere it up yeah i know i got and and you know it was the first film
that was sold out at diff is that right congratulations well i don't know if you caught it in the
beginning Kelly what but i'm i'm the guy that every day i look at my my memory thread on facebook
yeah yeah it was ten years ago last week we did this festival for the first time
really uh-huh ten years ago and that that was at the angel king they had the Chicago
pizza original building there yeah you you had Glenn Moore shower you were probably but we
barely missed him yeah we were two ships past but i mean i met in years when he was on the show
he was on the he was i'll never see him around here again he was never he didn't have him on
we didn't have him on the year for bomb city yeah which i'm glad because yeah don and i don't
i very rarely agree on film for both of us that was our favorite film of the year that was so cool
yeah bomb city was it 2017ish it sounds about right i want to say yeah maybe even 2016 because that
was the same one that was that was the same year that was the same year we had Thompson oh yeah
yeah because we had we had him on one week and we had her on the following week oh that's so cool
yeah that was a crazy year i actually saw that the bomb city car it's all over
our whole film festival family is over here this is so sweet we're getting seary and they're
trying to pull Kelly away yes because that's how it works at a film festival wouldn't be the first
time marks here too i would see marking forever in a day yeah marks here everybody's here the whole
family it's so important to point these people out windy gomen right here in front of us because
if if it wasn't for these people yeah none of this would be possible and when he runs around
carpet they let me actually guess at the end amazing they took a you guys took a huge gamble on
a bunch of slugs yeah slugs and you know it's 2012 when you when you did video fast that was the
first one the very first one the goat at the Alamo Richardson he's not referring to us he's
referring to there was literally a video screen with a goat on it he's not that's not an ego thing
we're not to go that was a city of hate screening was the second year was the second year of
the second year of video fest is when we watched the the rolling stone today yeah that was cool
I think I think I think Wendy's over here to tell us we're fired thank you Wendy we'll be there
that's the story on my line they're all heading over to the screening because the screening
starting right now for for ride I believe yeah yeah there's a lot of people heading over
there right and what a great crew of people tonight was a great yeah don was on fire oh we're
busy night we got going though I don't know that we've ever squeezed that many guests into an hour
and a half hey do we want to do a great in five minutes with Mark here or not yes let's do it
bring it to me mark this is this is a very important moment no with this mark okay so once a quarter
don gets this this is the AEW all elite crate this is one of those things it's it's a subscription
thing okay and they send you stuff now Alex is not here tonight but if there's something that we
think Alex is like we will hold well yes this is how it'll work yeah okay screw that guy in here yeah
this is how it'll work we are I don't you'll see I'll show this on camera this the box is still sealed
this is a well oiled machine so don't know the reason I say that is that Don doesn't even know
what's in the crate yeah we don't because they when they send it they don't tell you
it's a big surprise yeah I love surprises so I will open the crate
and I'm going to move my keyboard over here because this is very important no one will see what's
in the crate before me okay what we will do because Mark you are our guest yep you will have
first rights to refusal it's like a white elephant gift if you pass it goes to Don okay if Don
well I don't think he's gonna want okay okay just case if Don passes then we will make the decision
whether or something we think Alex will want and if Alex doesn't want it it falls to me okay now
there's always two shirts there's two shirts yeah I was two shirts in the crate
am I supposed to look or no not not yet okay so the first shirt
is part of the reason I hate going last oh oh because you wanted because it is my leader
oh my god yeah am I supposed to look or no it is sting okay Mark yes are you interested no
to rob I'm I'm taking it and giving to you that is one we all know you want it wrong
no that's distinct but I'm okay so the other shirt so it is a white elephant so there is a
person in AEW who has one of the greatest gimmicks I've seen in years okay this will give it a
way to two people that watch she is your current women's champion oh now Kelly I believe this could
be your favorite wrestler but yes it would her name it's timeless Tony storm see she's the pro
wrestler okay go I can already tell you I don't want it her gimmick is she is basically Norma
Desmond and whenever she's on camera everything turns black and white and she that's her whole bit it
is one of the most brilliant gimmicks I've seen in years I love that you pulled in a classic film
reference right there for me and even when she's on screen with somebody else half the screens black
and white and the other half is colored yeah it's absolutely brilliant oh and I think you
it and she does the whole Norma Desmond style of delivery in the baller she has a baller she has a
baller I'm sure Luther would like to be Mark I don't want it done I'll pass it did is Kelly want
this shirt go for I don't know I don't wear t-shirt okay I will I will save this for Alex just in case
okay all right those are all the shirts we also have a we have a lot of stuff in here
we have a DVD in this one Don oh boy this one is the Kenny Omega paper
collection marks like don't know who that is Don it's either guy that made Ford loves Kenny
is he the guy that made the Michael Jackson music concert film oh no wait that's Kenny or
Taga I'm sorry I'm sorry fantastic pay Ford loves Kenny Omega I'm very confused by one of the items in
here oh I know what this is okay we have a metal straw okay
so that you can drink your Jamie Hater Hater eight who has been off television for like six
months I don't like steel straws I don't feel like you have to save it for me all right we'll hold on
to it for a we do I'm feeling you're gonna hold on to a lot of that forever yeah one of one of
them I know we're holding on for him for a yes okay two in a minute we have a mystery brawler Don
okay do you want it I'll pass all right long way we open it what is what is what is these are
this is a blind pack yes the blind pack we don't know what's in it it could be one of six
different things oh interesting well we open on air and see who it doesn't have a we'd have to have
scissors we'll do it next week would that be giving it away for somebody who might be waiting for it
no mark's gonna do it uh let's see the pin Don dark order you like the pins all right I'll keep the pins
uh the sticker I am going to say Alex will love and you know how much I like this decals
but this is Will Osprey and it says bruv oh gosh that's his bit because he's British okay so each
refers every is okay I'm gonna wrestle you bruv oh I thought it was a combo of bro and love
so the guess not is that supposed to be Christian Cage look on the back I think it is oh okay is
I'm gonna crack Jack's box treat I don't know what it is but I don't actually I don't want it okay
if we start to say this for Alex because I like offspring okay that one I do all right pass that
over to Don we have the the actual micro brawler is one prince Nana what is he is a manager
he manages the current AEW world champion swerve Strickland that happens Sunday I gotta tell you
I was having a really good time up until right about now that's why I'm burning through this calm down
captain it's all downhill it's all been all downhill since six o'clock I like the Nana okay all right
we'll put that to you okay uh let's see we have a poster I don't know what the poster is oh it's
orange Cassidy I think you would like orange Cassidy Mark he's far wrong did know his whole bit
that looks like it is he doesn't comedy that we're like when they introduce him he's like from wherever
weighing whatever I thought you were burning through this I am burning through he has
burned faster I know you like faster I know you like Cassidy right the award for rudest guess we've ever had
a pop cast you did say it was an hour and a half it has now been longer than an hour and a half
I just want to point out the last item slatta autograph is evil uno all right all right all right
okay take it I just like autographs I know that's evil he's great his he's a good Twitter follow
because everything's in the third person and it's hilarious evil it what evil uno yes evil uno
like the number one well there you go he used to be in a tag team called the super smash brothers
where he was player one and then Nintendo was like hey probably don't do that good night everybody
all right Kelly we love you thanks for coming on you remember we also want to mention
to Kelly just got back from the TCM festival yeah how many years in a row wow we've been going
15 I am so jealous no I am seriously how many world 20 2010 uh what was the highlight this
year for you oh my gosh okay so the highlight you guys would all love this was well several things
but but the one I can think of up the top of my head is um I'm sure I don't have to say do you
know who Ben Burt is oh my god really do you know who do you know who you're sitting around
back Baron is who Craig Baron I know the name okay so Ben Burt he is a sound designer for Lucas
film Academy Award winner he's done a couple things he created the sound of the lightsaber and
the tie fighter and all that stuff yes and Darth Vader he's the voice of Wally he's yeah yeah
and he okay and so him and Craig Baron their friends and Craig is a visual effects guy
so what they do is they do these archaeological digs basically where they go in and they look
for look for things they look for behind the scenes footage they look for you know ways that they
can bring out what the sound effects and the visual effects are in a particular film this film
that they chose for this year them oh no oh wow yes oh my god so they had behind the scenes footage
of the ants oh my god 8 feet to 12 feet long ants for those of you that don't know them is a
classic giant killer ant yeah yeah yeah 1956 54 55 wait right right right right there
right 53 Mark said no 53 okay I was right the first time anyway so yeah they do a deep dives
they also brought in the little girl at the beginning who you know was five at the time she's
now 70 something and she had her mother took behind the scenes super eight oh no way that's great
video film um and so they showed that oh my gosh it was so cool so that did I'm sure you probably
this was probably one of the first things they talked about the sound effect when the ants would show
up yes what was that what was that mark yeah was a compilation I think I was not told I'd be
fielding questions tonight I was told there were bino math well but we have seen okay so we saw
them do um the adventures of robin hood okay 1938 and arrow Flynn and yes arrow Flynn and what
they did oh my gosh was they went so Ben and his team went to a bunch of different places and
shot off arrows to see where they got the sound for the arrows that and he found it wow wow
and he was like able to reproduce it oh my god it was amazing that's awesome yeah these guys I
want to bring them to town so bad I want to bring them to town I'd love to bring them to town
you bring the town film festival which is it came from Texas film festival September September
13th 14th and 15th that they won't be they won't come for that and we'll have to sit down we'll
have to sit down with that that would be awesome I would be awesome I'm here for it anyway so yeah
that was probably our probably our top the calls of the bird voice oh I lost it but they all we
also love we love the presentations the videophone presentation was amazing where they had film and
the old videopones and they were they were they synced them up so how did they make the ants sound
in them the calls of the bird voice tree frogs mixed together with the calls of a woodthrush
hooded warbler and red belly woodpecker yes that tree like you do god bless the magic box I know
that amazing anyway so yeah so live live accompaniment with with silent films with Ben Modell
is one of our friends they may be looking for their poster we have their poster oh hey guys we
have your poster mark still your poster we were using your mark still we were using your poster for
the podcast I apologize hey it's extra promotion and now criminal charges anyway so yeah we love
we love things you can only see at film festivals yes why we're here you know well and finding out
how they make movies I'm I'm never not fascinated about oh yeah I'm Mark Mark and I met at a film
festival we met at the last debilitated market just off camera over here very nice man who we
have also had on the show many times and so we met at the last debilim film festival and so I
always say that his vows were to love honor and volunteer because she had that written in Mark
he says yes she had that written into the vast because it's he was my ball it was my volunteer
and and and and I'm sorry debilim film festival then became AFI dollars which then became
dollars international film festival which is where we're at today I was telling Rob I I go back to
those deep element days and and I never was not I never felt like I always felt welcome yes you know
that's the one thing about this festival you always feel like you're really welcome like they want
you here yeah you matter here yeah you're not just another number on the list you know everybody
matters everybody gets their moment to shine and I love that about to so and they're not paying me I'm
just saying that to say allegedly yeah thank you anything else we want to cover we're gonna
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