LIVE From The USA Film Festival

Let's do it !
For a posterity's sake, it is 6 o'clock on the East Coast, it is 3 o'clock on the
West Coast, which I have been on both of those things in the last week. It is
the 27th of April in the year of our Lord 2025. Season 15, episode 42, 41, I
have really got to read things. Season 15, episode 41, 710 times. You have
been welcome to the Clubhouse Podcast tonight. It was the first of two live
remote shows in as many weeks. Because if you look, it looks a little different.
Welcome. My name is Rob. I am the executive producer of the Clubhouse Podcast.
And we're halfway through the marathon. Talk about it here in a minute. Of course,
the boys are here with me. We are live at the Angelica Film Center at Mockingbird Station in Dallas.
It is the closing night of the USA Film Festival. It's been a great festival. I got some great
news. Of course, I've been out of town for most of it, but I've been monitoring the
feeds to my right in the middle of the table. Is the official fact checker of sooner or
a gatorer productions. And a man who I'm curious of how he wanders that jersey.
You may know him as Ike Boonu, but his mom I named him Don Ford. I'm going to call him Don Ford.
Hey man. I throw in the washing machine really because all the plastics and stuff I would worry
about that. No, this is the real deal though. I know it's a real deal, but I'm curious. I mean,
I feel like it would warm. Do you not dry it? Not dry at normal too. Wash it dry. Yeah.
Just like the rexham jerseys. That is well hauled. Well, we got to do this. We're back. We're back.
We are. Okay. I love it. You mentioned rexham because I don't know if you saw yesterday
promoted again. Thank you very much. What from what rexham got promoted again? Me, of course.
Three years in a row. Yeah. The first time ever happened in English football. And welcome rexham
starts in two weeks. Oh boy. So, but you know me. Yep. Go. Bye. Bye. We'll see Don and about an hour.
You'll see the Tasmanian deli. And at the other end of the table as a little bit normal,
different in a way we normally do this is my co-host and a man who is very vexarda.
Or but I can't. Did I said the name wrong? This shirt. I honestly don't hear no
weakness. Is that a best car? No, no, no, this is just a poo my shirt. I thought that was
what you're saying. No, but we might be we might be saving that one for a later date. We're
going to talk about that. Okay. Fair enough. I want to make sure that you're following us on
all your social medias with the coverage we're doing. We're also part of Sunset Lounge DFW
on Patreon. Oh, I just noticed that they're doing a Darth Vader drink the drink cup because
they're showing episode three for it's. Yep. We're going to cover a couple of things next Sunday.
I said, this is the first of two live remotes that we're doing. Next Sunday afternoon,
speaking of Star Wars. And I didn't even try to segue that. Next Sunday is intergalactic
Star Wars day. That it is. May the fourth be with you as they say. We will be alive in Frisco.
Absolutely. At the Frisco Rough Riders game, if you've never been to a Rough Riders game,
come on out. We'll be saw first pitches at 405. We'll be we're going to work out all the
details and share that with you on social media coming very soon. I need to know that my writer
has been met that I'm going to be able to do part of the show inside the lazy river. No,
I need to know. I have no waterproof tech, dude. I can yell. That's not the same. What if I buy
my own megaphone? It's still not going to come through. Hey, that pause was almost a yes. I had to
think it through. It's not going to come through. But come join us. And every Thursday is Thursday,
Thursday, why do you see in the sunset lounge? I'll read all season long. If it's a Thursday
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they call it that. You'll spot us in the lazy river sitting in the stands, maybe just wandering in
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And quench your thirst on Thursday, Thursdays with YDC and the sunset lounge YDC. Of course,
your dark companion with Mike Reiner. We will be there next Sunday for Intergalactic Star Wars
Day. And next Saturday, I'll be out of town, but they are doing their Harry Potter night. Yes,
and right before that, they are also doing a golf appreciation night on the second. I appreciate
golf. I do too. Very much. So you got golfing. You've got Harry Potter and you've got Star Wars.
I feel like they were just hairlering it for us. That's a trifectic. Absolutely.
Well, us and us adjacent because I'm not a much of a Harry Potter person.
You know what? I feel like as the person who wasn't a Harry Potter person, when you go to
Universal, it will change you. I will tell you that it will change you. I'm going to tell you,
I'll be I'll be recording after this. Look again, full throttle for another week. After this,
I'm going home to record Matt and the heroes with Craig and Elizabeth. And we're talking
how you how to train your dragon. Oh, yes. And watching that and knowing that the Isle of
Burke exists in real life now, very excited. Okay. Have you talked about how they do the one
animatronic though? No, let's let's save that. Okay. It's it's frightening to me. Well, and
that that film works live action on two levels because we've got the live action. Yep. And
you know, who co-directed that film also were the guys that co-directed Lilo and Stitch,
which is also having a live action treatment coming very, very soon. I wanted to talk a couple
of things. We were talking about Star Wars and the 20th anniversary of episode three. Disney plus
announced this past week. They're doing an animated Darth Maul series. I saw this. It's going to
with Sam Whitworth who I have interviewed and is a wonderful human and terrifying when he wants
to be. He's absolutely terrifying. But doing a Q&A with that man, he is a force of nature.
Absolutely. One of the nicest people on the planet. But he will be voicing it'll be called
Maul Shadow Lord. It's coming next year. And we're getting season two of Light Magic. Nice.
Which I'm very excited about. I love the first season of that. Well, did you see what the
Disney plus is doing for all of this with the 20th anniversary and the announcement? I have not.
So when you boot up, it no longer just does the tinkerbell over for the day. It's actually the
lightsaber comes in carbs. I haven't logged into my Disney plus to do that. It's the little
things like that that I appreciate every time. And speaking of people I've got an interview,
want us to the shout out this weekend was also Dallas comic show. I got to talk to Deborah Foreman
from Valley Girl. She lives in Austin now. She does a lot. She teaches 22 Pilate classes a week.
I'm tired hearing that. Sean Patrick Flannery. I'm sorry. I feel like you have to say something
else in the middle of that. It rhymes with duck. Yeah. No, no, I will not. But we had a blast with him.
As always, you definitely said anything, but he is an absolute riot. He did everything to try
to steer me into the ditch. And I wasn't going there. But we had fun doing that. Mark actually
ended up interviewing our artists. We had Adam Hughes, it's Sozomakia, and we had Ariel DS.
The the latter of those two have actually worked on absolute wonder woman. Nice, which I'm very
excited about. And then I got to interview five voice artists. A lot of anime. We had a blast in
there. And then we had our cosplay contest. That show is just now wrapping up. I don't have the
exact dates on the next show yet. I got to get that from Mark, but we had a blast. But they can
follow that where? Dallas comic shows, which you want to look up. And I think it's Dallas comic show
on everything. Yeah, that's right. Dallas comic show on everything. So I saw something this past
week that I'm curious, but not fully curious yet. Apparently, at Costco, for a hundred bucks,
you can buy a mini Planko board that is Planko branded from the prices right. I have seen this
as well, but it looks like it's about yay wide and about yay tall. I believe it was three by four.
And I and I feel like if you were somebody who worked conventions, this would be a cool thing
to have for like swag, especially because if you think about it, it can technically lay pretty
black. So transpose, not difficult. So that's only at the Costco exclusive. So there's that.
I speaking of and of course being the degenerate I am, I'm thinking of like what bets we can place
on the bottom or what drink concoctions or we just place random beers. We know Ziggy will hate
and make him drink whichever one it falls in. Speaking of things and things that are tied to
other things, we don't want to go too deep into this past week because I want to save that for when
we're back in back back to abnormal because back to the full we were able to figure out our overlap
in Vegas, which was awesome. But I want to talk about that overlap in a second because we have
TV on DVD and Blu-ray this week, season two of Mayfair Witches. Okay. This week, Andrew Alexander
D'Dario, how you doing? The Rick and Morty, the anime will be available this week and the complete
series on Blu-ray of wacky races, which I am all here for that. But you and I got to have a very
interesting dining experience that we did on Tuesday. And honestly, I'm still shocked without
saying anything too far. I'm still shocked. I thought that was going to be a one-off.
Well, and there's a couple of things about it. At the MGM Grand, and you would be shocked at how
many people I talked to that didn't even know it was there. I'm like, are you not paying attention
to their advertising at all over the place, but Netflix has a pie. I don't want to call it a pop-up
because it seems like it's going to be there for a minute. It does. It does look like a more
permanent structure than a pop-up. It is a restaurant called Netflix Bites and you walk into a huge
mouth and you might as well just embrace the dead joke on the way in. And if you follow me on
social media, I put the picture of you and me and Sean right in front of the entrance.
Yep. And I took a bunch of pictures in there, but I haven't posted those yet.
First of all, shout out Netflix because they had every right to
have ace this thing. Any kind of pop-up that's branded, you have a greater than zero chance of
average food. Yeah, you're basically checking the box, moving along. You're not reinventing the
wheel. Yeah, you're not getting Jack rabbit slims. Exactly. You know, Netflix did a great job with
this. Fantastic. The branding on the menu, which I took pictures because I had to have
pictures of that menu because I said embrace the dead joke. Well, they had a whole section just
for stranger things. That is true. And their ultra spicy pizza said it was hot enough to bring
Chrissy back from the from the other side. I still I've met her dad. I still want to do the
Squid Game as wings. So let's talk about I wasn't going to do it right before I'm like, they have a
Squid Game's wings appetizer where it's like six different. They melt your face down a mile. So
they bring them out with a with a spinning wheel that has the doll in front of the red light green
light all those that are watched. So the thing is you have to spin this wheel. And whatever it lands
on, you have to eat that's your sauce. Yep, which I thought that was fantastic. Like I said, I wanted
to try it, but I had a flight in less than three hours after that. They have a subject. They have
the dessert. Remember the dessert? There is a it's a chocolate volcano. Don you should be listening
into this. It's a chocolate volcano. And we're talking about going to the Netflix restaurant at MGM.
So this this chocolate volcano and everybody at the table gets a gummy bear. Yep. Then you
place your gummy bear on the volcano. No, real quick. This is like a foot to a foot and a half tall
chocolate. It's about it's about a tall. This isn't just a little lava. And once everybody puts
their gummy bear on the volcano, the server gets the hot lava and pours it in the volcano.
And the contest is whose gummy bear stays stuck on there the longest. And then after that,
the lava collapses the volcano and you just eat the whole thing.
It was really cool, but I was also the anxiety was flaring because the little kid kept
trying to grab the gummy bear while I was playing with the going that was 27.
Also, um, but like the he kept wanting to do is like, I'm going to pet that dog. It's like, no.
Oh, yeah. Big time. Then there was I had the WWE burger. Yes. Maybe maybe don't
describe the onions as Oklahoma saute because who you're referencing at that point? Well, at that
point, that's just go ahead and sue us. That's that. Yeah. Um, it was very good. Very much. It
was, I won't say it was a standard burger, but it was, I didn't feel like it came out of a warmer.
I feel like they actually made it genuinely made it. But then you wasn't like crafted.
Sean had a club sandwich if I remember correctly. Yes. And then there's what you had.
I can't remember what it was called, but it was delicious.
Careful with where you're holding it. I think that's what's cutting it out a little bit.
Oh, I'm above the bottom hole, but hold down a little bit. I think it's what's going on.
There we go. Okay. Uh, I don't remember what it was called, but it was delicious. So they
haven't show called sex education, which is about a kid and then how he deals with that in high school.
Not only were the wet maps for this thing sex education branded. So as to look like a prophylactic.
Yeah. This was a very, very large Italian sausage sandwich. Yes, it was. And it was delightful.
Oh, man, alive. I was just like, I'm still taking a picture of this, but you're God. Oh, no,
it was, and I highly recommend it. It was a fantastic Italian sausage. But at the same time,
I still don't understand the Dijon A's that goes on it. Get that away. How's your battery on
that thing? Have you got three lines? All full. Okay. It's cutting it out. I don't know. Weird. Uh,
but yeah, no, it had them take that off. They didn't have a provolone to throw on it. Or maybe
I would have them throw some red sauce on there. And they had cool little neon signs of quotes.
Like, yep, turn up, turn your, your meal up to an 11. I bon appétit that, uh,
sale on a notion of flavor. They had a nice, um, mural on the back wall. And they had
paintings all over the place that represent different things from very different offers. But very
cool. Yeah, very cool artwork. Very much. They had, I like the, the Cobra Kai one they had a lot.
Cobra Kai's hard to tell. The WWE one was cool. They had some pretty good stuff. Yeah,
they had some strength. They had the one of the stranger are the squid game guys as a hot dog.
Yep. But I, I, I would highly recommend it. No, and I'm, and I'm very opinion of everything. Like
you were saying, I, if it was just food as a quick option, I'd still recommend it. Yeah.
The fact that it was also the Netflix theme is just a bonus because the food was genuinely
good. And they have a separate bar. Yes. Which we didn't check it. But they did have their own
special concoction, which they had a menu for that on the table. One of them was the Mindflare. Yeah.
From Stringer. Thanks. What's the, the gigantic thing of cotton candy? Yes. I, I just thought it was
really well done. Shout out to Netflix. Apparently we are getting one here in our Fairburg. Nice.
Uh, when, in, where Valley View used to be. Okay. Right there at Preston in 635.
Well, I endorse going in regardless. They're doing, they're doing like a whole Netflix
allegedly. Allegedly. Last I heard. Yeah. There was going to be like a whole Netflix,
like immersive experience. Okay. So hopefully the Netflix fights. Well, they've done a lot of
really cool stuff with that. Even in just Stringer things out in Vegas. And I feel like that maybe your
tester realm. Yeah. For a lot of those things they've been doing that are now going to show up
in other areas like up here. I kind of wish they would have had like a merch store.
I'm sorry. I wish they had, because at one point they had the Stranger Things pop up. Last time I was
there for, for, for gritty's wedding. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I wish they would have had a merch store.
I, I bet they direct people to the one that's still there. The one that's, uh, it's on the
street. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like if there's interest in merchandising or anything like that,
they just send to that store because of how much that is designed for that kind of shopping. Right.
Okay. So. Keso. We're going to Keso. No. What comes today? Oh, someone.
You refer to any Schubert as someone. Someone. Someone. This is not a random human. Can I swear
at him, please? Not this time. In a couple of hours, you absolutely can. Joining us right now,
one of the people that we hold very dear to this show, who for some reason lets us keep doing this
thing, uh, low standards that we will be seeing. I've got to do math here like what two and a half
weeks now, we're away. Get right up on that thing so people can hear you. May 17th. May 17th, the
real hour film, real hour cinema film festival at Garwin High School. Uh, we just finally got the
audio up for the bankhead film festival. So it's up now. Oh, good. I got that done this past weekend.
But that's my latest endeavor. Yes. How to blast their sad on the stage. That was a lot of fun.
That was a lot of fun. Yeah. Yeah. I love the podcast from the in the audience. Oh,
did they really? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We were kind of paying no attention to the men behind the curtains.
Yeah. Yeah. Which I was okay with because it was a beautiful area for us to be in. Love the
plaza theater downtown. Garland had a blast. We'll be doing another one next year. Uh, so it's
one of the second time around. Yes. February 28th. Maybe. Uh, don't hold onto that. I'll look at the
calendar for that. But yeah. Yeah. But we've got real hour coming up in just a couple of weeks.
It's going to be our 20th 20th anniversary. I think our 10th. I won't say. Yeah. Yes. You've
been with us in years. So we have. And yeah, we've been doing USA almost that long. I just realized,
you know, it would. It's been a, there's our 12th year total between this and the other film festival.
So times they just run. Yeah. Just because before you know it. Yeah. Yeah. It was this festival
where we met y'all. Yeah. And that was it. Was it here? Was it Asian film festival Dallas? Um,
because you guys are. If I remember the story, it was USA film that then led to Asian film where
the larger discussion of getting involved. Okay. Amen. Oh, I'm a lady student. I don't know.
Somebody just says, I think it was doc told us that they had these wonderful podcast guys. And
that was not only did you, but yeah, not only did you even show up with doing your podcast,
you wouldn't got a Jeep for us because there's a Jurassic Park thing and with five minutes,
we've got a, you know, Jurassic Park thing. Uh, staying right below outside for us. So,
you know, Dallas movie replicas that saved me. So that we immediately were going, wow,
these are great guys. So yeah, we kept in baking a lot of things on the show. The clubhouse
podcast, we get this done. But real owl is one of our favorite shows every year because
Garwood High School has such an amazing film department. Um, not just because you're sitting here.
We say, we say it when you're not. I know you. Uh, and then we love your publicity.
See all the work that these kids are putting into things. And then we get to talk to them
in between the showing of the films and the awarding of the awards. Uh, it's, it's one of our
favorite things to do every year because they're just seeing the glee and, you know, it kind of
makes me a little bit jealous that this wasn't available when I was a kid. So many people say that,
uh, I can't believe I wish this was available when I was in. But it's, you know, we, we're really
unique. We're sitting there. We've been doing this for 20 years and we're like, wow, where did
it go? But, you know, the continuation of people, this outside world, you guys, all the people in
the business that have come in and been, uh, supportive and, and helping with us, uh, all of
the merchants in the garland area that have made donations, random strangers that have made
donations. You know, we, uh, we were managing a four-year narrative film program that was based
off of SMU's film program. So, uh, and Roland, with 35% of the kids, they graduate into the business now.
So, you know, we can roll with those kinds of numbers. Yeah. So, you know, uh, and they're
literally all over, you know, doing all kinds of things and we're so excited about them. So, yeah.
Yeah, I think the other crazy thing in that scope, and it's really cool that they get to do this.
And like it's same as what Rob says, wishing that there was this kind of an outlet when I was at
that age range. But at the same time, how much you see, like between you, between, uh, Mr. Schubert,
and everybody involved, how much care goes into this program? Like, I have friends that have kids
coming up, and they're like, if you had a kid, and it's like, well, let's start with the fact that
I can't stand them unless they're in the program. But I, I swear to them, I was like, go to garland
high school, get with the Schubert's. You know that they're going to care about your kids at worst.
We, we, that's, that's one thing they're family. They're immediately. It's like all of you who
have become our family. We run it on a family basis. Uh, when our alumni do, uh, their, um, we sent
out the alumni, uh, questionnaire every 10 years, and they come up and, uh, are we supposed,
what if we're not, what if we don't do a film or what are, are you using something that you
learned in film? Well, well, yeah, of course we do because we made videos all the time for whatever it
is. And you know, they're, they're just, well, should we put all that in, put everything in?
We want to know about you, your family. This is how we keep up with you. Rather have two months
than not. Oh, that's so wonderful that you said we want to know how many kids you've got,
whether you're, whether you're, you know, where you're living, we have a young man in Japan that
uses video in his classroom teaching, you know, so from our very first class, you know, so we
get all these tidbits through these, these alumni sending us these wonderful stories and,
and being so supportive of the program. Have we got the lineup ready to go yet for this year?
They're, their submission is this Friday. Oh, okay. Last year. That's right. Yeah,
your departments are seeing people that are like, I still can't wrap my brain around
prom in April. Like our prom was like Memorial Day weekend. Well, school is over by the 24th
for us. And we're running in the weekend of the night of the 17th. So there's only test week left
after we're done. So they're, they're closing out so quite quickly that, you know, we've got to
do the, the other part of it. So what time does the festival start on the 7th? It starts at the
red carpet starts at 5 o'clock. And it goes until around 930. We run a red carpet. We do have a
guest artist that's going to be there this year. We announced tomorrow. And say she's pumping
it up too. I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, we're down tomorrow. Our time has been such a
construct for us the last couple of weeks that you're like, I'm like tomorrow. Oh, tomorrow,
it's Sunday tomorrow's Monday. I'm still. Those just get to know who it is tomorrow night. So,
yeah, within we will announce to all the kids. And they are actually going to do not only the
bit they offered to do a workshop with for us too. So we're really excited about that. And
we then have after the red carpet, we showed two hours of student films. Last year we had 90 submitted
and we so, and we showed 52 of them. So if you don't like one, then they're short, you know,
wait for the next one. We, and it's freshmen through senior. We don't just knock out our
freshmen's because you know, they're just learning. It was interesting. The then, then
director of SME Rick Warland came in for the 10th anniversary. And he says, I have to stop
long enough. I have to tell you this. He said, I didn't, he says, not all of the films are polished.
He says, but, and, but I want you to know, he said, every one of them show that they're being taught
there's film the right way. And there is a, there is a spark of film and every one of them, I mean,
he couldn't set a better thing or a better nicer thing. You know, I thought he was going to go,
oh, I'm like, oh, my gosh, what is he going to say? But it was beautiful. It was wonderful.
And that's the whole thing. All of the films are not as polished as they should be, but you're
seeing ninth grade work, you know, 10th grade work, 11th, we get as many student buried students
into the festival as we can. That's how we choose. We were given the 90. We got 52. We've done
over 2000 films through the program's history. So yeah. And then we do a little reception while we,
because the audience gets to fun vote for the winners. We have judges from the industry that
votes for some, but the audience gets to do a whole lot of the voting. And so we have a little
reception. And then we come back over and do the awards. So it's a really evening. It's a great
family family friendly kind of thing. So that during that reception that we'll actually do our show
will be audio only. Yes, we'll not go out live, but we'll have it, we'll have it up within a
couple of days, assuming I remember. But like I said, we have just so much fun with that. And being
able to, to be judges and just to see, you know, see, see the elation and you guys have let us
give awards away, which I absolutely love. And the growth that you've got like you'll talk to
a kid two years ago. And then you see how far they've come with what they've learned. And
interestingly enough, we were you were talking about how they could use it anywhere else.
Yes. Okay, maybe you don't stick to film, but there's something you got in that class that
that person is now with, I don't know, do pond and baking things, but they have some baseline
on what they learned in program. Everything matters. We had a young man who applied for SMU's
as an engineer in the engineering program. We have a letter that came back for acceptance for
him saying that they had chosen him because he had taken film because he could think outside the
box. And you have to absolutely when he went to AT&T, they told him the same thing again. Okay,
very similar kind of thing. He said, look, I know I'm not the best programmer and everything
else. He said, why did you guys hire me? And he goes, they go, because you had film on your on
your resume. And it was like, there it is. There's the roles reversed. I would have that letter
just over my doorway as I left, like the Notre Dame play like a champ. Like a large neon arrow,
just pointing out every time. I was like, this is what it's all about. Well, and let's also talk
about the shirt you're wearing. This year's film club shirt available and the proceeds go to the
program. Yes. And that's because that's already. Okay, that was, yeah, that is done and we
appreciate that. But yes, we we printed so that we'd have them all for today's event.
All of your volunteers that are here have those shirts. All our kids. They're new one every year.
Yes, there are people that may not have been able to get one this year. It's a different shirt
every year. Usually has something to do with a a film that is currently in the parlops.
Right. Last year was Barbie. This year being Beetlejuice Beetlejuice. Uh-huh. And if you look
close enough, there's little owls all over us. Yes. And 20th and 20th and 20th in our year.
Oh, I wore mine on the year two weeks ago. And honestly, it slipped my mind. I'm like, you
know what, I should have worn mine. But then I went to the college. Mine came in while I was at a
town and I did a trick of it. So yeah, so we do that and everything like that even is
produced by our students. Our students make everything that we have like that. Our logo came from
our students that's based off of the trip to the moon. A trip to the moon. You can say the name
of the film, right? And just we try to give them all kinds of creative outlets. Everything we can
give them. And thanks again to the people that are wonderful to be able to help us that are in
the industry. Oh, we're happy to. And we're in the industry. Of course you are. How's the festival
been? How is the festival been? The USA? Oh, it's been great. It's so wonderful. I mean,
our kids are so excited that they get films that I'm, you know, this is a major film festival,
you know, and and and getting a whole hour to be able to show our kids films and it'd be a part
of it. They bumped us for the last two years to bigger houses. That's a massive promotion.
Oh, no, that's great. That's been really located. The audience was full in there. We were,
we were almost hit the top of that one. Well, we had the 50th anniversary of Death Race 2000
last night with Martin Cove. We had the 25th anniversary of Memento, which I, that one kind of
melted my brain a little bit. I love that movie. And it's what, you know, when people announced
that Christopher Nolan would be directing Batman begins. I was like, you know, it's just the
guy that did Memento in that movie. He's kind of dope. So then they announced Christian Bale. I'm like,
go watch American cycle. That's all you need to know. I know that Neil McDonough was here the other
night, Adrian. Yes, just all kinds of things that again, because USA invites us to their films,
our kids are getting to be a part of. I mean, it's, it's a unbelievable thing. The whole,
the people here at USA are just so great to help us and and make everything work.
And they do an incredible festival and bring in so many times so much talent.
Well, and they got such energy. Even when they came out to take their group picture,
as we were waiting to go on the air. Our kids, yeah, they're just so, yeah, there's just,
yeah, there's just so much energy that they bring. And this is what, 23, 24, 24, 25, 26,
day five of the festival. Yes. And to still have that level of energy. Yes. Yes.
You know, I did a three day show and all I was doing was DJing and I was ready to go to bed.
It's like, I'm going to sleep for about a day and a half. And I look like, because I,
I basically help them do box office because I have a ticket master background. Don't anybody
hate on that. It is not ticket mastermaking. But I mean, there's three, there's three movies tonight.
Yes, there are. As we've got coming up at 630, I got this. We'll be showing. We have an
encore showing of Tonic and the Texas short films tonight. But we've got a guest that we've
got to get to. Let's get to that. Yes. Let's do it. Thank you so much for your time.
I'm sure we'll have a full festival. May 17th. It's happening. All right. Come on and have a seat,
my friend. Hey, what are we doing? We are broadcasting live right now.
All right. So we got to go. Well, here we go. There you go. I think we're good there.
Give him that one. Go ahead and look right at that little dot right there on the screen.
Okay, you see it right there, little white dot. Tell everybody who you are.
I am Tony Harry and I'm the producer of the film. I got this. That's showing here in about an hour.
Yes. All right. We're here in Dallas. And who are you, my friend?
And I'm Judson. All right. Judson is one of the stars of the film. All right,
we'll tell us about this film because it's like I said, it's showing here in about an hour.
Yeah, we're excited. Tell us about it. Tell us about the movie.
What tell us what it's about? Get that mic right up there for you. There you go, my friend.
And what did you do in the movie, do you remember?
We made some movies. You were jumping in a mud puddle.
You remember doing that? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So this is a documentary.
It's a documentary. And it's about you're right there with it. It's about a number of kids.
That I see and they'll take care of who have amputations of one sort.
Some are born with them. Some get them from an injury. And they're just the most inspiring
group of children you'll ever meet. And I'm very, very honored to be able to look with them.
Scottish right for children is a very, for those that don't know. Look at she showed. Look at the
nighties. Look at the kicks, bro. Oh, he's got it. You are bringing the kicks. Look at that.
Your shoes cost more than my entire outfit, I think. Those are awesome. And his prosthesis may cost
like your car. Yeah. Probably more, I would think. And I love it. This looks like a very inspiring
story because we talk about Scottish right for showing downtown Dallas one of the biggest
in that that's out there. And we love that we get to host that. Have you gotten to see the film
in its entirety yet? I have. Yeah. Okay. Well, I've been involved with the editing and we started
with a much longer film, but decided to really wrap it down to a short documentary. And I think
it really works better in that format. You lose some things, but we really get the essence of the
kids. Has it is tonight to premiere or has not just a premiere. So this is the big night.
All of a sudden, I look up and there's like 90 people here all of a sudden. This is insane.
I'm sure they're from cans and all over the world. Hey, you know what? They can't see it. So we're
going to, we're going to count it. How are you feeling? Are you ready to watch this thing?
Get your mic up, sister. Everybody can hear you. Are you, are you excited?
Are you going to be part of the Q&A? Are you going to answer questions from people?
So this is a good warm up for you. Do we test them and see if he can spoil something?
No, we don't want spoilers. We don't do spoilers. I mean, he's the star here. We got to make
Q&A's after them. There's no, then there's no, but there's no spoiling. How long ago did you film it?
Do you remember? Has it been a while? It has, it has been. He doesn't know exactly which films.
Oh, so he doesn't seem to judge. How long did it take you guys to film it though?
Well, we have really, some of our films go back 50 years and we have been collecting old films
and then doing new films really for the last 15 or 20 years for this particular show.
Do you want to say something? No, I'm fascinated by the depth of which you're going into with
this, with the amount of time just piecing everything together. Did you find it more difficult
to remove certain things that you may have been holding on to with that much footage you're working
with? Or oh, there's so much, you know, we could make a dozen films with a dozen kids in each one.
These kids are so, they just, they make your day. They're so fun to work with and
that's awesome. You see them do awesome things all the time. Very cool. And Dr. Herring's been working
with them since 1975. I was two. That's a life you were, you were even part of the world yet. I
was two. I'm not trying to throw anything out. No, I want to point out you're saying. I am
grace the oldness. I'm good with it because of the good that you've done with this. Is there
somewhere that it's going to go to after today? Because you want as many eyes on this as possible.
Are you going to take it around the festival circuit? We'll be able to stream tell us where it's going.
This is the first festival we entered with the short one. Okay. We worked some other festivals and
didn't really work out. So this is the first one where we cut it back to be short. But we're
planning then to take it on the festival circuit and get a lot of people to see it. Are you going to
make an expanded version of it? Or because you had said there was a lot you had to cut down,
but you liked that 30 minute pocket that is sitting there for other purposes. Yes, we'll make
an expanded version. Then what we might put on TV. We don't know. This is, this is our third film
for this film maker and I to do. The director Ken Mandel.
Director Ken Mandel and both of those films went national on PBS several times.
And one came within just a few votes of getting an Academy Award nomination.
Oh, wow. And talk about what it's like to kind of do the premiere in your own backyard.
Right. It's pretty much because you like it. It's Scottish right? It's a stone scroll from here.
All right. It's a bicycle ride. And it's, I mean, it's got to feel good to know that, you know,
maybe you didn't get maybe what you wanted to be getting. But to be able to get it here at the
USA Film Festival at the Angelica in Dallas, the level of support has got to be.
And you know, we go to the film. We go out for films fairly often. My wife or that. This is where
we come. Oh, the Angelica is a beautiful theater. And they always have something cool going on.
Yeah. Not just first run movies. Sometimes it's independent film. Sometimes it's, it's
what I just lost the name of what they would call it. But just classic films.
Like this, this weekend, they're showing breakfast activities. Yeah. And then June,
they're showing fair spielers day off. But let's talk to you a little bit to my friend.
What's your favorite movie to watch? You have a favorite?
Get everybody here. Yeah. There you go. No, you don't know. There's a lot of movies. There is a lot
of movies. Do you have a favorite TV show that you like to watch when you're hanging out with
your friends? Scooby-Doo's great. I love Scooby-Doo. Scrappy-Doo, man. Maybe not so much. But Scooby-Doo
or guys, they're going to be a new Scooby-Doo series coming out on Netflix, which I'm very excited
about. Yeah, absolutely. What if you got to see your movie on Netflix? How cool would that be?
Wow. You would be the coolest kid of all time.
You're already way cooler than me. So you're already on your way.
So, but I'm assuming there will be Q&A after the film?
Yes. Q&A afterwards. Who else is going to be involved in the Q&A?
Well, one of my patients from 1975 is... Really? That is interesting.
And he and I have been friends ever since. And he was three years old when I met him.
Smartest three-year-old I ever met. Probably smarter than me even now.
How many kids would you say have been through the program there? It's got to
rush right since you've been there. I would say probably a thousand years. That is outstanding.
I have no count, but that would be a thousand. That's world changing.
Yeah, every year we take 14 kids skiing and it's usually different kids each year.
Sometimes skid repeat, but we've done 42 years of the ski trail for amputee kids.
I can't ski now. I tried once. It was like, no, hard pass.
And so you, I mean, how many, and usually you take, what would you say, 14 or 15 a year?
You'd say about 15 year old. How many kids every year? How many of them on the ski trip?
Yeah, about 14 each year. So about, yeah, 14, 15 a year. And you're like a week long.
Are there specific fundraisers to raise funds for that? Because we want to talk about that too.
That's when we really get to know what they need and how we can help them the most because we're
with them. No parents and everything they do, we do with them and it's great fun.
So you've got to think coming up here in about 45 minutes and we're alive. So we want people to
get down here to see it. Okay. Which do we know which house you're in? I don't know which room we're in.
I think it says, it might say on your ticket, but it's here at the Angelica.
Oh, yeah. Plenty of parking all over the place. Yeah.
You want to get down here for 630. It's about a 30 minute film. Yeah.
And then there'll be Q&A afterwards. Is there, I know that you've got to go get ready and probably
just get settled? Yeah. Are you nervous at all? Well, I'm nervous about everybody getting in.
Because they keep saying it so well. That's not, that's not a bad problem to have. Sold out. How about that?
It's sold out. People can't even get tickets. There's so many people going to see you.
Mandel is here. Who's the director? There he is.
He's got the director. All right. We're going to, who are we tagging out?
All right. All right. We'll keep Tony and Ken to talk.
You want to tag out Mr. Mandel, my friend?
Oh, okay. Hold on. Hold on. What are we doing? What are we doing?
This is live podcasting. This is what live is.
All right.
Director Ken Mandel joining us now. How are you, sir?
I'm very good. You ready for this thing tonight?
They're saying they're saying it's sold out.
Get right up on that microphone. Get right up on that microphone.
There we go. Now we're getting somewhere.
And you, it's not the first time you've worked with Dr. Haring. He was saying,
No, we're, uh, what's going on? Why am I not getting yet?
No, just right, dude, you're right here. There we go.
No, we are a long term talent, uh,
spiel of a Spielberg and Kathleen Kennedy.
Hey, I'll take that. He's a producer.
Now this guy is an incredible filmmaker.
He is so much fun to work with. And, uh, this is our third film, as I mentioned earlier,
you know, and we've done really well with the, what sets this one apart?
I got, I got this.
Yeah.
What sets, what sets this one apart from the other two that you've worked on?
Oh, it's dramatic. Look, you know, the first time, am I good now?
Yeah, you're just being bright straight because it's unidirectional.
There you go. There we go.
I think I know something about my microphone.
You would be shocked at how many times I've said that.
Well, the very first film was, uh, kind of like the history of polio.
And I was dragged by my long hair at the time,
hit a hospital by one of my clients, the late Bob Wilson, uh,
and I had no interest that I didn't know what polio was.
And, uh, I left the meeting saying, I'll do anything for these people.
I mean, I'd never heard a Scottish right.
Didn't do nothing about it, but we'd all sat in there for about an hour.
And, uh, I just thought I want to work with these people.
So we did.
And we had incredible success and had a lot of fun.
And, uh, to put the New York Times only Ken Mandel could make you feel good about polio.
How quickly did you frame that?
I would, I would have that.
That would be the first page on my resume.
You know, I rarely share that.
The Bob Wilson called me at one in the morning.
Yeah, I had composed some music for it.
And A.O. Scott at the New York Times said,
and Dr. Herring is not a bad composer.
Hey, you know what?
I will take that too.
There you go.
So, and then, uh, after that, I just kind of asked, uh, Tony,
what are you interested in doing next?
And one of his mentors and someone that he really respected was Dr. DeBakey.
So we then spent how many years tracking down Dr. DeBakey?
Five.
Why should three tracking them down?
Then we filmed them for five.
Yeah, we filmed them from the age of 94 to 99.
And, uh, made a pretty incredible biography.
Of course, he was well-documented as a documentarian.
I had phenomenal footage.
And then I've done, been very fortunate over the last, I think,
30 years I've tried to figure it out.
I've been doing many, many films for Scott Astrid Hospital.
Raising money, fundraising, type of stuff.
Promotive stuff.
Yeah, you know, really.
So, awareness from NIH funding for teaching, you know,
a lot of his informational little stories about the kiddos
that they could share with, with future patients or people that are going through ideas.
So I detected very closely our third partner was JC Montgomery,
of the former presidents.
And, uh, every time I wasn't working, you know,
making my big bucks, uh, JC would grab my arm and say,
we need to do this.
We need to do this.
So, uh, I was actually doing a series of films for the hospital.
And I would just end up in this clinic, uh, just to meet with the Tony.
And it was the oddest clinic because there were,
JC would bring people down and I was hearing the reactions of not the parents,
of not the kids, but of these other people saying,
you know, JC drag me down here, but I can't believe what I'm saying.
This is the funnest thing I've ever seen.
And at that point, one day I mentioned to Tony, I said, you know,
I think this kind of could make an interesting film.
And by Gallya, I think it did.
When did we actually get started?
I think the first clinic filming was 2014.
I fully did.
2014?
Because you all I know is about my cameras.
So any filmmakers out there listening,
know what has happened.
I was a 60.
We did polio on 60 millimeter.
You know, and then we moved into the digital age,
with the DV cams and all that stuff.
So I know in 2000, I know the very first footage was still DV footage.
And then it became the high death footage that it became the 4k footage.
So I kind of know my timeline.
I was like, I don't know if that you want to ask a question Alex.
It sounded like you had something on your mind you wanted to ask.
Oh no, I'm just trying to lock in.
Yeah, Alex doesn't have his headphones on.
I've had both, so I'm like trying to like really intently lift.
I always I always have something I forget the headphone stuff.
I was what I forgot this time for the.
So we had we, Dr. Dr. Herring and I were talking earlier.
He said, you know, you had to cut it down to that 30 minutes
and you liked that 30 minute pocket.
But down the road, maybe expanding out with some of the other footage.
What are your thoughts on that?
That's my green.
So I actually have a longer version.
Ready?
And we're hoping that the power to be, that's got us right.
We'll allow us to share that.
There's a couple more patients in it.
There's a few more of the doctors kind of telling some of their stories
and their relationships with Dr. Herring.
So I always like the longer.
As a director, of course you do.
Alex does have a question.
But you were talking about with expanding it out being the dream.
Would you prefer to have a more extended more feature length documentary
or would you rather do more of a short series
where you maybe get six hour long episodes
where you can tell every bit of the story you want?
I like that.
I'm here for it.
You know, if someone wanted to do,
is it matter of fact, someone at the hospital had mentioned to us
why did you cover everything that Dr. Herring has done?
And that was my comment, you know, Paul Ken Burns.
Yeah, because if you really look at what this man has done,
over his 50 cost years,
this is where we've had a battle.
For me, the film is about the kids.
He wants to keep talking about me.
And I don't want to talk about me.
I wanted to call the film Dr. Tony and I shut down.
I came up with the title.
Yes.
I got this was my idea.
Well, I think the thing that's interesting.
No, no, don't keep going.
I've got to check something on the other end.
Yeah, no, the thing with Dr. Herring is he's such a team player.
I mean, but you really see that Scott is right is an enormous amount of team work.
And he doesn't want to take credit for anything.
And his team, they are all amazing.
And when I first got there, it was a much smaller team than it is now.
The hospital has obviously grown since 1998.
When I arrived, but Tony's very generous and he's trained hundreds and hundreds
with not thousands of doctors.
And but I think he feels every one of them is an equal or a better
to go he will tell you people going to debate that.
But he's a fantastic mentor and but there are so many stories.
He's got is a endless set of stories.
And they have a wonderful meeting department that
continuously puts out stories and people go to the website.
They'll see lots of patient stories.
So it is endless.
And the history with Dr. Herring going back to when he first got there
with the research department really did.
And what he's done for all the PDFs or the pedics, I think is the big story.
He doesn't want to talk about that.
But and I remember being in was a library of Congress when you saw your books.
Oh, that was cool.
That was cool.
We were walking through the library of Congress.
Yeah, we were working on a different project.
And he stops and kind of took a little pause.
And there was the one with the shot in the orthopedics.
Yeah, or it's a big thing.
It's almost like this is that concept of nobody has to tell you you're the king.
No, you're the king.
And how do you just play it cool?
And you're like, yeah, it's in the library, Congress.
He said, I would be losing my mind.
I'm going to tell you about one of the outpakes that will be in the long version.
He went to Woodstock.
Nice.
That is fantastic.
And they clarify that their brownies were clean.
Yes.
Let me tell the rest of the story.
Quick before we were a little old for Woodstock.
We were like 29 years old, but a bunch of buddies got some tickets.
We got there having no idea what was going to happen.
All of a sudden, you walk over the hill.
There are half a million people at a stage way down here.
That night, we're still in way back.
And they announced, would a doctor come to the stage?
We have an emergency.
So my wife and I go running all the way down to the stage.
We get on the back of the stage.
Between sets and the stage manager comes over and said,
you the doctor, I said, yeah, well, everything's okay.
We don't need you right now, but thanks for coming up.
And it's between sets.
He walked over here and I see a photographer pit on the front of the stage.
We hop in it.
So my wife and I are like this on the edge of the stage.
And the next act is Janice Joplin.
And she was spitting on us.
Oh, dear.
We were then spinning distance.
And we stayed in the pit for a couple of hours and they finally threw us out.
That's cool.
That makes my real big fish story really crazy.
Yeah, I guess.
How do you, how do you tough that?
Like, yeah, I was working.
You know, we'll just stick with your story.
Oh, my God.
You just hear, is there a doctor in the house?
Hi, how you doing?
Yeah, goodness, mercy.
Okay, you know, and that could lead us to our next ad for you.
Like, oh, my God, I just feel like I said this.
We know that you guys are getting ready for the premiere.
Very excited for this.
But so we can, we want to let you guys go get ready.
But before we do, we want to do shameless self-promotion.
So where can they contact you?
We're like social media websites, the whole nine.
If they want this film or just to get in contact with you.
How do they do that?
Right now, I think all the information will be
on the scottest rape for hospitals website.
I don't think anything yet is posted.
But I think in the next few weeks,
we'll get with PR and get some stuff posted.
Yeah, we're going to be doing a screening at the hospital for the stay at.
Oh, nice.
I've kept this film secret.
So I was very tough and we only showed to very few people.
And I just really didn't allow them to do a screening at the hospital yet.
So the week by time we do that, which I hope there's pretty soon,
I think we'll have, yeah, you know, much more info about it on the official
scottest rape for hospital website.
This is Ken Manlil, Dr. Tony Herring.
It's called I got this the world premiere tonight.
Sold out coming up at 630.
But keep an eye out for the documentary.
Gentlemen, thank you so much.
Thank you.
Absolute honor to have you with us.
We are the Clubhouse podcast.
We are live at the Angelica Film Center at Mockingbird Station.
And Alex, I got a question for you.
And it's a question I think that you will be very interested to answer
as you get your mic put up back on my thing.
Okay, no, because you got to talk because we have to do the spot.
We are doing the ad read, but you have to help me.
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Alex doesn't have headphones on it.
I'm trying not to shout.
And it is loud.
But the is very echoey here in the in the lobby of the Angelica.
Plus, I don't want to get close to that microphone because then I'm going to feed back.
So we'll do what we can.
Let's take a look and see some other things.
I'll also announce this past week.
We have the official date for Star Wars Starfighter.
May 28th, 2027 with Ryan Gosling.
I, you know, I forgot about the Gosling rumor with this.
I only remembered the Starfighter name over and over again.
But it's like, yeah, let's get to that.
One of my favorite video games ever.
One of my favorite Star Wars games ever Starfighter.
And Sean Levy will be directing.
So Sean Levy of the Deadpool.
Yes, yes, yes.
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That is that.
I don't have the the sound effects board.
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There is another movie that released this week that I want to talk about because it is
doc worthy.
Another movie is releasing this week that is doc worthy.
Oh, no, it's called bears on a ship.
Stranded travelers opt for a sea journey to the US during a Mexican airline strike.
Unaware that there are two man eating bears on the ship.
No, Samuel L Jackson.
No, thank you.
And there is a guy in this film named Clint Beaver.
No, it's right here.
The M. Dib is telling me this.
No, yes.
We know what those films are.
I'm not going to say this.
But we need to we do need to look because we're not doing a show on Thursday this week.
We need to definitely look at some of the new releases coming up next week.
But movies on DVD and blue right this week.
Cleaner.
This was earlier this year.
Janice Ian breaking silence.
That was we talked about that a few weeks ago.
Yeah, Janice Ian was the very first musical guest on Saturday Night Live.
Really?
Yeah, she performed at 17.
Billy Preston was also there.
But his band played before the show and during the breaks as we saw in Saturday Night.
As opposed to the feature guest.
One of Don's favorite movies of the year so far.
The last breath.
We'll be out on Tuesday.
Paddington in Peru.
Okay, which I got to get caught up on that.
The Star Trek section 31 with Michelle Yell.
That'll be it.
That aired in January and the unbreakable boy.
Some big steelbooks this week.
Dirty Harry.
Yeah.
Gandhi.
Yep.
The outlawed Josie Wales.
Ooh, good one.
Pale Rider.
Yes.
Pokemon Detective Pikachu with the Ryan Riders.
Underrated.
And Stripes.
Oh, this week.
Arrow video also has the RV's Cinema Essentials of Bullets in the Trail.
This is a four pound.
And the Criterion Collection this week.
Anora, Basquiat, and Prince of Broadway.
I just.
Huh.
I just don't.
And I said this week it hasn't quite had a hammer to get me in a while.
Well, my thing is.
I get like Anora what was what it was.
I just didn't think it was that great of a film.
The performance is fantastic.
Shot really well.
It's got a weird ending to it.
It takes it in the enders a lot.
Yeah.
But this week.
Big some big movies this week of Thunderbolts.
Yes.
Is this week.
Have you seen the trailer for the surfer?
For what?
The surfer with Nicholas Cage.
I saw a teaser.
I didn't see a full trailer.
Because only Nicholas Cage could do a film.
Hey, I'm going to go surfing with my kid and then get caught up in a gang war.
Okay, sure.
Why not?
Well, they could have called it surf angry.
I mean.
And getting to talk yesterday too.
Don't you dare blow that off.
That was great.
Getting to talk to Deborah Forman yesterday.
We of course, Valley Girl was the big thing with Nicholas Cage.
She talked a lot about how much she enjoyed working with him.
And he's Nicholas Cage.
Those are pretty much your big.
Although we have a we have swamp dog gets his cool his pool painted.
I got nothing.
I got I got a back on that myself.
But just we're getting into that time.
Cheech and Chong's last movie also releases this week.
The legend of Ochi, which I'm really kind of bummed on.
Miss the screenings for that.
I did want to see it.
Don don's got something to say.
What are we doing?
What are we doing?
All right.
Okay.
All right.
We are we are flying blind.
Absolutely.
We'll do it live.
Go ahead.
We have a guest joining us now.
Go ahead and get right up into that microphone.
Tell us who you are.
There you go.
I'm Olive Talley.
Oh wow.
You know what?
I use this one.
There might be some level issues with that one.
Oh hold on.
What are we?
What's happening right now?
There we go.
Now it's a all right.
All right.
My name is Olive Talley.
I'm the writer producer and director of the scones are speaking.
So just speaking, which just got out.
We just got out.
We literally at least had five people walk by wondering where that was.
I'm like, I think it's right there, but I think it's on right now.
So tell us about this documentary, please.
This is a documentary about an archaeological site in Texas
that shows people were living here in Texas up to 20,000 years ago.
And it tells the backstory of the archaeologist who saved it for history.
Mike Collins.
Mike Collins.
So what brought you to this project?
Because this is this is a heck of a story.
Thank you.
Believe it or not, this story began in Antarctica in 2017.
Tell me more.
Because I went on a trip to Antarctica.
And there was a National Geographic photographer,
Ken Garrett, who was lecturing us about the people in the Americas.
And he told us about this special place in Texas called Galt.
And none of us Texans had ever heard of it.
So we were surprised.
And I'm a reporter, a long time reporter in Texas.
And so I just got curious and started asking questions and digging in.
So you got the National Geo pin.
Is this a Nat Geo production?
No, it's not.
I'm doing this in honor of Ken because he got me started on this journey.
Okay, all right.
Was tonight the premiere?
Was today the premiere?
No, we had our theatrical premiere at the Austin Film Festival in October.
Okay, but this is the second film festival that we've shown it.
And it's the first time it's been shown theatrically in Dallas.
All right, we'll take that.
I'm assuming you did a Q&A after.
Yes.
Tell me how the Q&A went.
It was fabulous.
People were very curious and people like the film.
And they really like the uplifting, positive nature of it.
Well, and it seems like this would be a very positive story to tell because
again, 20,000 years ago.
Yes, you know, like before Texas was even, I mean, I can't even imagine
some of the finds that tell us about some of the things.
I don't know if you want to say it's a spoiler or not, but
tell us about some of the things that you were able to find at during this day.
Well, uh, so what what they found was
people used this place as a gathering place.
Century after century millennium after millennium.
People came through here because it had water.
It had food sources.
The the animals that the people were hunting to eat came to the water.
And then most importantly, you had this supply of shirt called plant.
And that's what people made their stone tools out of to survive.
Whether it was, you know, cutting grass or butchering something or whatever.
And so it had all the ideal elements for prehistoric life.
And people just came back and back and back.
So the fact that you have this layer cake of artifacts that show a layer cake of time
is remarkable.
This site is the most prolific Clovis site in North America.
What kind of a time span was there of you filming this documentary?
Uh, from about 500 years ago, all the way back when you actually filmed it.
Oh, I'm sorry.
I was like, if you filmed this for 500 years, I have questions.
Yes, yes, yes, um, um, I started filming in 2020 right before the pandemic.
Oh, wow.
So when the world shuts down, I did not.
So I was going to say, what, what were you able to do in that eight to ten months?
Were you just continuing on the dig?
Tell me about what happened there.
Well, uh, the the excavation was closed at that point.
So I was just in the process of interviewing people and getting people on tape.
So, um, but we because we could shoot outside and outdoors,
we could keep 20 feet or so between us and, um, you know, it was great.
And then, um, so when did you finish the principal photography itself?
Uh, I would say late 22 early 23.
So you didn't have a large window for post if it if you've already premiered it last year being 24?
Yes, yes, we've been in post for over a year and a half, almost two years.
Is the film where you want it to be or are you still tinkering with it?
No, well, you know, you know, a filmmaker has never been.
Yeah, yeah, you're always looking out at the camera.
Yeah, maybe I could move this, but I'm done.
I've got to be done.
Um, we, we premiered on broadcast on PBS in March.
Oh, wow.
And so, but we had to cut it down to 56 minutes.
This version is the director's cut at 85 minutes.
And this is the sweet spot.
So, so with this version, if you have your druthers, where does it go?
It's going on Apple and Amazon and Google.
And it will start streaming on those services after May the second.
So next weekend, next weekend or the week after that,
I'm, I'm waiting for a firm date.
But, uh, yeah, are you still going to take it to festivals?
Or is that going to be the thing at that point?
You know, I, I, I wouldn't mind going to some festivals.
If they want the film after it's been out there a little bit,
I'd love to show it because I love festivals.
Now, I mean, there's, it's a whole different.
It's a vibe as they get.
It's a vibe.
It's a very cool vibe.
And you, you get to actually interact.
What, how is it for you as the filmmaker?
Because documentaries are their own sport, basically.
You've got narratives, you've got documentaries,
with documentaries, kind of a whole different thing.
When you're watching it in a theater with an audience,
how hard is it for you as a filmmaker to be able to be like,
okay, are they going to hit the beats?
Or can you just relax and enjoy the ride with the audience?
Um, I relaxed and enjoyed the ride because I was feeling such a relief
getting it done and getting it out here.
But I was listening.
I wanted to hear what people laughed at and what people sighed about
and what moved people to tears.
So it was, it's a fun experience to be sitting in that
theater and trying to listen to people's reactions.
They just told me I got three minutes left with you.
So we want to do shameless self promotion.
So after today, because we've already, the film's already screened.
Where can they connect with you?
Where can they connect with the film?
Give us websites, give us social media, give us everything.
Okay, you can catch everything about what's happening with the film on our website.
The stones are speaking.com.
We will be streaming on Apple, Amazon and Google.
We hope after May the 2nd or May the 5th,
you can also watch a free, shorter version of it on the PBS app.
And then we will be screening at the Archaeology Channel International Film Festival
in Eugene, Oregon on May the 17th.
The same city where the only blockbuster left standing is,
Eugene, Oregon.
That's also a great documentary if you haven't seen it.
So check that out.
The stones are speaking.
This is Olivia Talley.
Thank you so much for sitting down with us.
Go enjoy your evening, my friend.
Thank you.
Happy to do.
Thank you so much.
This is the Clubhouse Podcast.
We are live at the Angelica.
We're actually doing video this time.
But go and they're telling me you've got to go.
So all right, we'll do this.
All right, we're tagging out.
All right.
Thank you so much.
This was amazing.
We're going to be checking it out for sure.
All right, we've got more guests.
We're hoping we can get some, I'm going to check the volume on that microphone.
All right, right up on those microphones.
Alex, you're going to cover me for a minute and tell us who you are.
All right, I'm Jason Starrant.
I'm the producer and editor here with the movie Tonic.
Okay, yeah, I'm going to go check the level.
All right, yeah.
Oh, we keep going.
Keep going.
I'll hold it.
It's easier.
There you go.
Thank you.
It gets a little easier when you can bring it to you.
Yeah, this is much better.
Well, yeah, give us the full rundown.
Yeah, I'm here now.
Derek's a low talker.
I'm a low talker.
He's a writer and a lover.
No, I'm not a podcaster.
Oh, not a lot.
So Tonic with Billy Blair.
Tonic with Billy Blair.
You know, I play Sebastian Poe.
I have gotten the chance to meet him on a few opportunities,
but I've never gotten the chance to sit down and cue an A with him.
He is one of the nicest cats on the planet.
You know, I see Tonic and of course, my brain goes to music.
One of my favorite bands of all time.
So you already have me on that level and there is a musical element to this film.
Tell everybody what the film's about.
Do you want me to go?
I'll go.
Well, the film's about a barfly loser piano player.
He's a jazz pianist played by Billy Blair named Sebastian Poe.
He takes care of his sister.
He's ailing sister.
He's dying of cancer.
Poor Sebastian gets in debt to a crooked police officer
over some money for drugs.
As you do.
As you do.
As you do.
True story.
Derek wrote this.
This is another one day for me.
I can't let my story.
Somebody's true story.
His debt is called in and he can't pay it.
So he's ordered to go kill a guy.
And so it's an overnight obviously.
And we follow Sebastian Poe through his night of shenanigans to get it done
and to try to go kill someone.
And you're about to have an encore screen, which means you've done it already.
How was the first screen?
How did it go?
How the first screen was great.
It was more of a cast and grew screening a few years ago.
And in the USA it was really nice letting us use this place for that.
This one we're actually programmed in to the festival with
on four as I said.
So it's been amazing so far.
So they do it the right way and we're big fans of USA.
Yeah, that's right.
This is our actual theatrical premiere of the film.
We're the distributor.
We are a false sum original.
And we'll be out on all the steering platforms after May 16th.
May 16th starting with false sum.
Excuse me.
You got about three weeks until that.
About three weeks.
So you said you had it for the cast and crew.
Of course, this being a public screening,
little bit different of a ball game.
Right.
How are you feeling right now?
Um, you know, I'm feeling good.
I think it's a little, uh, we have, we kind of have some help
because it's a deep element.
Yeah, we shot this a deep element.
So I'm hoping people will really support it because of that
because we show it deep element in a different way.
Well, not maybe in a different way, but the actual way.
It's like we showcase deep element.
Yeah, we found some character of this film.
And for people that don't know,
a deep element is one of our arcs districts in the Dallas area.
I've spent quite a bit of time there myself.
A deep element is just it's a cool place to go.
We have some great concert venues in that area of being the
social hub that deep element tends to be and you're filming this at nights.
Talk about the logistics of that because you really have to,
there's a balance that has to be struck of what the normal nightlife is.
But at the same time, you're filming a movie.
Yeah, it's like on a scale of tightrope walking to razors.
Yeah, we're at the top end of that.
This movie's very organic way came together.
We had some big support from a lot of the bars down there,
eight dares, three links, the green room.
Really great support from the community of deep elements,
a lot of artists down there that you know.
So we've had a lot of support from that.
DPD supported us very well.
They protected us.
We had security with us at all times.
And you've got, there's also a fire station in deep elements.
So you had that going for you too.
There was a lot of sirens running for us.
I was going to say that, you know, we planned this film.
We came down to develop many, many, many times over the course of the
six, seven months leading up to the shoot.
But one thing you could not account for was how many sirens,
how many police, revealing some of this stuff made it
beautifully into the film.
And it fit the color palette that we created.
And it was great.
You know, so it's like, there was a lot of,
it's like, you plan for it.
And then we just got a lot of happy accidents
being in deep element.
And also too to answer your question earlier as you keep,
we kept the crew small for a reason.
Well, move, move fast, be safe, be very safe.
We've got great security team.
And go out and have fun and make a really cool movie.
And I think we did that.
Kind of a stick and move, you know,
you don't want to, you want to make sure that the flow of traffic,
if you will, stays where it is.
But you want to get your shot at the same time.
That's right.
Would you say like keeping the small, more agile crew felt more like
the almost gorilla filming element to it, keeping it natural?
Yeah, absolutely.
I mean, we both enjoy that anyways.
We did a film that was about a $2 million movie right before this one.
And we had a much bigger crew for us.
It was up in Washington.
Nothing wrong with that.
Great crews.
There's a lot wrong with that.
Well, I just mean it was a multi-union film.
We had like 85 people at one time on the crew.
It was massive.
But you couldn't get that with this film.
That's right.
Even if we were given, say, $5 million,
it wouldn't be what the film became.
Because we did it like you said.
Small film, gorilla, we got it and got out.
Not to take too much time,
but we talked about this earlier.
And I think it's on point.
Is that the first day of shooting,
we were supposed to have more time at a dare saloon.
And the owner of the club, it was a Monday.
And I believe a Monday, Tuesday.
And he had a live band.
We were not anticipating.
Oh, dear.
And we delayed and delayed as long as we could.
And he finally said, guys, I can't do it anymore.
So they became part of the film.
We ended up going to the band,
getting their soundtrack, Justin Cashy's name.
See, who was the band?
Justin Cashy.
All right.
I think it was Justin Cashy and friends.
And friends, yeah.
OK, all right.
So amazing artists.
That had this frenetic energy, this insane energy there
in the club.
And when we just threw Billy in with our camera
and our crew hovered around the outskirts of the bar,
the inside was insane.
And it was a lot of fun.
But it also, we created something really cool.
When you talk about having a small crew,
I feel like, as the more I'm reading of this film,
you want that almost feeling of enclosure
of the world he's trying to live in in this one night.
Was that what you were going for as well?
Oh, absolutely.
Yeah.
We wanted this to feel like the world was coming down on him.
And we wanted it to be as natural as possible for Billy.
He doesn't, you know, he plays a lot in our previous films.
He's played some bad guys and villains.
And he's really good at it.
He's really good.
But like you said at the beginning, he's a sweetheart.
He's just such a nice guy.
And that's who Sebastian is.
And so having him put in Billy and letting him be,
you know, he was very, he was very,
when he was doing it, he wanted to do a tom.
Waits boys and he wanted to, he wanted to do all this stuff.
And I said, no, I don't want that.
I want, I want Billy Blair, just do Billy Blair.
And it'll be great.
And so he was a little self-conscious about it.
And it helps to have him a small crew.
He's the guy that loves, he's that guy that loves the craft.
Yes.
And he wants the craft to be the best version of itself.
And the times I've gotten to meet him,
I did, I just get that vibe from.
Yeah, he's just, it's like, tell me,
point me in the direction, let me go.
That's right.
And I feel like I'm in a plot like this,
a tom waits voice.
I'm trying to process that in my head.
I'll send you a, I'll send you his video.
Oh, I love this.
Yeah, it's his tape.
So you're really good.
You said it's going to be streaming here
about three weeks.
I'm assuming you're doing Q&A after the film.
We will be doing Q&A tonight.
Oh, what's next for you guys?
Or are we, are we just in this moment now?
We can say what's going on.
I'll plug a movie.
I was a writer on a movie called The Last Rodeo.
It showed here.
It showed you earlier in the weekend.
Yeah, I was a co-writer on that with Neil McDonough,
who we both worked with as a good friend of ours.
And I wrote that film very much different than this movie.
That's coming out the same time in May for me.
And then I've got a film that I'm shooting in the fall,
with Canada.
And that's all we'll say about that.
Oh, and sometimes you didn't talk it sometimes.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, Derrick's got a great film.
He's going to film in the fall.
He's directing.
But he and I also co-wrote a script
that I'm pretty happy with and focused on right now
that we will likely co-direct together.
That's this movie's coming together.
And then I've got a few projects in development as well.
So that's it.
That's a we should say that
sister kind of sequel fun,
little same role as Tonic.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, same type.
All right, Tonic.
So real fun.
Anybody else going to be in attendance tonight
for this particular screening?
Did you want to flood?
Billy Blair is going to be here tonight.
Is he going to be here?
Amy Masterson who plays Jane will be here tonight.
Machado, John Machado plays Joey, the bouncer, his son,
John who plays John, the bartender.
I'm sure a lot of the actors will be in here tonight as well.
And a lot of the cast,
a lot of the crew will be here.
Cody Barry.
Cody Barry who gets thrown out of the bar.
We'll be here.
And of course, low a lot.
Low a lot.
There's my producing partner on this film.
Also one of the executive producers.
She's going to be here.
Writer, director and producer.
All in one artist.
What's up?
Derek was the writer and director.
He's also a producer.
I mean, we were on this film a year before it got started.
So like, it's our fourth movie together.
We're like finishing each other's senses now.
What?
I just, my brain just would play.
After tonight, is the film going to go anywhere else
before it starts to stream?
It'll be a false, some original, a false, some exclusive.
So it's going to start there.
And then future today, which is the parent company of false,
some is going to put it on whatever 200 million
straight platforms that are available now.
The more the marry.
So exactly.
Like, we're happy about that.
Can I give a shout out?
It is your time, my friend.
There's a gentleman.
He's filming us right now, actually.
His name's John.
I don't even know your last name, John,
but he's with dope, Ellen.
dope, Ellen.
dope, Ellen.
John Bay.
Love it.
Trepid, John.
Trepid, John.
And I got to say, without these cats,
we wouldn't have been able to.
John, you come stand behind them.
You'll be on the camera.
Well, there is a camera.
And he's, and he's also doing BTS for us.
This is very meta right now.
Let me shoot you.
You're shooting us.
We have the hall of the year.
Let me plug John real quick.
This movie is so organic that we actually made our base camp
in their building.
So dope, Ellen supported us.
A lot of the scenes are filmed in their building there.
Very cool.
Yeah, yeah, we're.
I think without them.
Yeah, we were scouting.
We met this guy scouting location.
Every might be here, probably.
I don't know.
You got to take a look at this.
Oh, they're dope.
Yeah.
So without these guys, this movie, I like, I said,
deep Ellen, the artist, the support we got from them.
This is how the shirt should get the shirt on,
because that shirt is dope, Ellen.
There we go.
Look at that.
It's not a crew.
That's awesome.
If it is one thing, we have based the show on
in a shameless self promotion.
So we are completely okay with that.
Don, how we do it on time?
Okay, okay, okay.
Keep it going.
That's because you guys are bringing some energy.
And I love it.
There's like, it's very frenetic.
And I am totally here for it.
Oh, it makes me want to ask the stupid question.
Ask no such thing, my friend.
Now that we have established the baseline
of the cookler deal, if you were offered that,
what's the project you want to make?
Blank Jack, 25 years, it's all you.
Oh, man.
Blank Jack, my house, I'd like to.
I'd like to buy a big house on a piece of water somewhere.
No, I don't know that that's going to make a great film,
but I'm sure it'll be great for you.
Some people have done that.
I've heard stories.
People take budgets.
There's a couple of people in the news about that.
But just remember, Michael Cain has the best one of those.
No matter what.
Yeah, absolutely right.
No, in all, to answer your questions,
your blank check, whatever I could do,
I would like to do a remake of,
then never mind, not a remake.
I think I'd just like to make something.
I just want to sell out.
I just want to do a Marvel movie.
He's like after Rousseau.
We could do a Marvel movie.
Dallas the movie.
You know, so I don't know.
What are you thinking?
I don't know.
That's a hard question.
I've never had that about that.
I got to moderate Death Race 2000 last time with Martin Co.
Oh, I think I would redo Death Race 2000 now.
I'm kind of inspired.
If I had a blank check.
Jason Stake.
And Nero the hero.
Yeah, I would say they did a version of it,
which I know I would redo that.
I'm talking about the original.
I mean, you're talking about going back to the,
yeah, like how they get the gone in 60 seconds,
which is not even close to what it originally was.
Well, you know, my gone in 60 seconds story.
I went to the Hard Rock Cafe for lunch once.
And as we were valeting, the valet was watching gone in 60 seconds.
And I was like, bro, probably not the best choice.
Right now.
Anyway, oh man, I didn't think of that.
Like being on a plane and being like,
oh, they have a lie.
Yeah, no hard pass.
Nobody won hard pass.
Oh, no, no God.
Are there any, any movies that you guys want to see that's coming up?
Can I just, no, please?
I found it.
I figured it out.
OK, good.
I would make the Masters of the Universe movie.
Oh, yes.
I know they're doing it, but I would make a real one.
I have my reservations from the things I've seen.
So why?
Because it's like, it seems like are we not
learning from the mistakes of the first one?
No, no.
Because I'm the key man's, my wheelhouse man.
I'm Gen X. It's right in my wheelhouse.
I'm reserving judgment.
I agree with you.
Show me more and we'll go there.
But is there anything that you guys are
jacked for that movies that you're looking forward to seeing
or movies that you haven't been able to see
that you need to catch up on?
Warfare.
I'd like to see that.
I don't know.
Don has actually, he went to the screening
of it said it's very, very good.
Whatever.
Yeah, I mean, Civil War was fantastic.
Civil War was fantastic.
And actually a movie, for me, that is not the usual 824 film.
So yeah, 824, whenever I see, what was he
saw that they're remaking recently?
And I was like, 824 remaking?
Are they the ones that are doing the carry things?
That's actually going to be a series.
They're doing it.
But I thought that was going to be more behind it as well.
Oh, they got the Crystal Lake, yeah.
And they just cast Linda Cartelini as his mom, which
should be great.
I can busher read the phone, but I'm good with it.
Let's go.
I think, yeah, there's no besmirking Linda Cartelini
on this show.
Oh, never.
Never.
She's amazing.
I would never.
I think a movie that I'm looking forward to seeing
would be, it's going to be a wall from now.
I think it's called the circus at the end of the road.
It's a Terry Gillian movie.
Yeah.
And he only had an old one.
So he may not only have one left, too.
Because he's an illicit because of his age.
I say that because, can I connect first?
Can I connect first?
No, no, no, no, I don't have to be ill.
So you don't leave it.
The mother, just only makes a movie every 10 damn years.
He's my favorite filmmaker.
And I'm like, because he can't.
I know, I know.
He's Terry Gillian.
He's a pythe.
He's cursed, you know, but that's a movie
that I'm looking forward to seeing just because he,
you know, you just said about Linda Cartelini.
Yeah, I could do it.
I could just, any Terry Gillian movie,
I could just watch because it's him.
It's time bandits.
Like that's the loop.
That was one of those when I was a kid
that was on a loop on HBO.
Yeah, Brazil, of course, depending on which cut you watch,
because it's like Blade Runner.
There's like nine different cuts of that fill.
We know you guys want to go get ready, get settled.
So, okay, I want you to talk about it.
Talk about it.
I always want to be respected of our guest time,
because I don't know who does,
whose prep time is going to be needed,
because I have no doubt that this thing's going to be packed tonight,
because number one, it's deep down, number two, it's Billy Blair.
It's all of the things together.
When you, when you need, if you're having writer's block,
or you need inspiration, is there something you go to for it?
Oh, writer's block.
If you have writer's block, is there, is there a film,
or book or something that you go to
that kind of helps you through that?
You know, I don't, I don't, I don't have writer's block,
and the reason is is that if I, I kind of have a very strict rule,
because that's writing is like a full-time job.
If I have writer's block, or what you think,
writer's block is, I put it, I don't work on it.
I just go away, and I do another one,
because I feel like, personally, it's just me speaking,
that if you really have an idea and you have the handle on it,
you're not going to be blocked by it, you're inspired by it.
And I write both a lot of momentum.
And fifth, so that's just my personal thoughts on writer's block.
But I do, it loals in between writing or filmmaking.
I love, I love the, I think it's called
the Easy Writer and Raging Bulls book by Peter Biscuits.
Okay.
I love films about, I love books about the filmmaking world,
but only back in the 70s, I could care less about these days.
I don't want to care, I don't want to read about streaming.
Well, it was, it was so much different.
One of my favorite shows of the last few years,
I'm, to me, the Godfather is the perfect show.
Oh, yeah.
There's a series on parallel, a mount plus called the offer.
And knowing what I know about that,
it's about 95% solid.
And I love it when you can make projects about the process,
because I eat that stuff up.
That's a buffet for me, because I've just,
the more, I'm a trivia geek too.
So the more I can learn, like when I'm watching a movie,
I'm on the M-Dib, like after this tonight,
I'm guessing on a podcast where we're going to be talking about
how to train your dragon.
And so I was watching that today,
and that has a filmmaker's commentary and a trivia track.
And I'm like, give me all the things, you know,
but I'm right there with you.
What about you?
So I'm like, Derek, I only write what I know.
So that's how I go back to things in my life,
growing up, or people that I know,
I know some crazy people.
I grew up in Bojo City, Louisiana,
and it was a wild times.
And I don't try to get out of that.
I mean, that's my film's,
but I'm working on it pretty dark,
and a lot of the stuff is just true character stuff.
Who inspires you as filmmakers?
Oh, man, mine's just the, how are you kidding?
I mean, outside of Gileum, because we know Gileum,
we love Gileum.
I'd say, man, I love Abel Ferrera.
I love Bad Lieutenant and King of New York.
Bad Lieutenant's one of those films,
I can only watch once in a blue film.
You're already getting some of my old Tommy kids.
Oh, we're adding some of that.
I'm not sure. I got another producer, right?
He's like, oh, producer style.
Get out of my seat.
That's up to you.
That's a betty.
Alex is going to tag out.
So I'm going to keep going.
I'm going to go Scott Cooper out of the furnace,
one of my favorite films of all time.
But yeah, we're talking about Bad Lieutenant.
Actually, go ahead and introduce yourself to everybody.
Hi, I'm Lola Law.
I'm the producer and executive producer for Tommy.
That's happening here in 30 minutes.
Yes, yes.
You get her five.
Yeah, oh, it was right behind us.
Oh, look at that plug.
That's one of the big houses.
That's five and six of the big houses.
So how are you feeling going into this tonight?
Get right up on that.
No, she can just get right up on it.
Oh, OK.
Found it.
OK.
I'm feeling excited, nervous, anxious, and I'm ready.
Feeling we've been working on this for a long time.
And the premiere here at USA Film Festival,
and then Wide Release, May 16th, on Fossum Streaming platform,
is pretty darn cool.
That experience, oh, you're late, Lola.
Yeah.
Hey, no, but what did I say?
I'm so sorry.
What did I say?
Shameless self-promotion.
You can talk, you can.
If you just said that on a loop, I'm OK with that, too.
Because that's why we're here.
We're here to promote you guys.
Thank you.
I was just talking about filmmakers and things of that nature
that inspire you.
I wished I had said this yesterday.
So I'm glad I remembered today.
I love the Coen Brothers Blood Symbol.
It is just, it's true indie type kind of filmmaking.
It was before they were big.
I think I know somebody that worked on that as a camera.
I think.
Shot outside of Austin.
Yes.
We worked with Skip Leavesy.
We did the sound brawl.
We had to work with Skip Leavesy.
Does all the sound mix for the Coen Brothers?
The Coens, they just, I love when filmmakers, you
can watch a film and go, you can drop me right in the middle.
And I know who's doing it.
Right.
I love a lot of their stuff.
I think they do the ballot of Buster Scruggs a couple
of years ago, which is the last one they did together.
That film alone, like I had to put very low expectations.
Because when you do an anthology film, it could go either way,
even for them.
And I got to the end.
And I was like, I have very much enjoyed this.
This was a lot of fun.
And to say fun in Coen Brothers in the same sentence,
sometimes, you can see it.
That's true.
That's a little crazy.
But yeah, no, absolutely.
I loved the Coens.
We were talking, you were talking, you started,
and then we got into her.
I said, it's got to be, yeah.
Out of the furnace, very dark film.
I love those types of movie, very character driven films.
I'm also a big fan of character driven.
Because show me, show me the why.
I mean, sometimes I just want to watch stuff explode.
Don't get me wrong.
But sometimes when I want to just want to get
into the meat and potatoes of a film,
it's about like, tell me why this person's where they are.
Maybe not with a lot of time jumping.
Kind of keep the time, unless like certain films you
have to time jump.
Like we just had, this weekend, they
showed the 25th anniversary of Memento.
Wow.
Yeah.
That's a song, that's a song that does time jumping right.
But when, you know, it's like, keep, keep, keep me focused.
Yeah.
And I've talked to people that I've
gotten a special edition of that, of that DVD,
where you can watch it in order.
And they said it doesn't work.
Like the beauty of Memento is you, you have to keep going back.
Absolutely, yeah.
And Nolan is just Nolan.
Yeah.
Was that his first one?
That was his day, that was his debut.
Yeah.
I would say that that's before we started
having to think too much about Nolan's time jumping.
Yeah.
Where am I now?
Yeah.
Inception got a bit much for me.
At a certain point, Inception became background noise for me.
But he gets the, he gets the past,
because I'm a Batman fanatic.
So he gets the past for the Dark Knight.
Dark Knight's the perfect sight superhero film.
We are good.
We were just also talking about what kind of things
that are coming out soon.
Are you excited to see?
It's not an indie film, but I am excited to see sinners.
I haven't seen it yet.
Both of the boys, I did not get to go to that screening.
But both of the other boys got to go see that.
And they said it is absolutely fantastic.
I was a little hesitant because I'm not a big horror guy.
I have a policy, I live by a code.
I can't give somebody my time and or money
to try to make me pee on myself.
Yeah.
But they were like, no, because as much as I love
from Dustal Dawn, they're like, you love from Dustal Dawn,
you're going to love this film.
And there are multiple credit scenes.
So I'm the guy that doesn't leave until the lights come up.
So there's a mid credit and a post credit.
Am I right on that?
Alex is nodding.
So yeah, he's, yeah, 20.
Yeah, there's like a huge mid credit scene in this.
Wow.
Yeah, this is like this is the credit scene
is literally your actual closing scene.
Oh, it is part of the story.
So if you leave early, you are S-O-L with capital letters.
Wow.
And I love everybody involved in that film, too.
I mean, you're a Googler.
And I mean, Michael B. Jordan pretty much is his views
at this point.
What else have you guys looking forward to?
Besides tonight, because we're looking forward
to what's happening in 25 minutes here.
Looking forward to it here.
Yeah.
You are not wrong.
We were talking in free show.
This is, I'm on a two week five show bench right now.
I was in Vegas all week.
As was Alex.
Then I had a show yesterday.
I got a show today.
And then I'm in Austin next week.
And then we got a show next Sunday.
So, yeah, beer does not, even though I can't have it anymore,
beer does not sound like a bad idea.
One, two, one.
I'm diabetic.
So it's like, maybe vodka if I'm lucky.
So that's all right.
It's good.
That's better for you.
So the film runs about an hour 40.
Did I see that right?
Yeah.
An hour 45, 104 minutes.
So you'll have plenty of time for Q and A after.
How many of you are involved in the Q and A?
Everybody that's involved in the film.
Are you going to bring them all up there?
I'd like to recognize it.
Yeah.
It takes a village.
And that's the best movie.
Well, especially with this movie,
because you were doing so.
I don't want to say guerrilla filmmaking,
because that's not really, I think,
what you were going for necessarily.
But that style of stick and move.
Again, we talked about being in T-hellum and hustle and bustle.
And, you know, I like how you said, you know,
we had the sirens.
But in certain cases, it kind of enhanced what we were doing.
So when you yelled cut, you were like, oh, yeah.
You know, and then you're also, at the same time,
going, I don't have to sound at it, that it works.
Roll with it.
Yeah, we had a lot of happy accidents.
And they were, we got them all on screen as much as we could.
At one point, you know, we heard some loud sounds.
We thought, maybe we heard ambulance,
and I shoved my DP.
I said, as, as we're right, get up to, go, get it, get it.
Were you able to use like some of it for, like, b-roll?
Oh, there's, man, it's in there.
That's all a roll.
Well, it's all a roll.
All right, all right.
All right.
Thank you.
But you know what?
But again, when you're, you're shooting in a place like that,
it's all part of that vibe.
And I think that, you know, even just seen some of the stills
that I've seen from this, it's, it's that aesthetic.
Well, we set out to embrace everything that went on.
That's what we did.
Including having a fan thrown in.
Yeah, I mean, but, and then you get that band on the soundtrack.
I mean, if that's not serendipity,
I'm not quite sure what is.
Yeah, that's exactly it.
Are you going to release the soundtrack
or will be something that's like Spotify type of thing?
So that's a goal to put the soundtrack together?
Yeah, because it's all local deep-hell and bands.
And we really want to showcase that, right?
I love that.
And together, help us support local music.
That's it.
As a local musician, support that.
That's right.
So we will, we'll do a soundtrack to the film.
Working with the guys in the band.
Were they able to write you anything specifically
for the film?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Well, we had Billy Blair.
And remind me of his name.
I'm so sorry.
Lou Morris and a gentleman named Eric Connutson.
They wrote original music for the opening song.
Because a lot of people don't know.
Billy is a very accomplished musician as well.
Right.
He is.
And that's what I think that's what was so funny about this.
We actually embraced his past rock mentality.
This is not stuff you'll see in the film.
You get glimpses of it on the refrigerator.
There's a picture of Billy actually from back in the day.
That's me, sir.
I love that.
I'm a big fan of you, sir.
I told Billy, I said, look, man, I was like,
you're a wannabe.
You're good at jazz, but you just came into it.
You've been a rocker.
That's why, and Billy was Billy's idea
to have a little finger pain on his character first.
I said, no, I said, you wouldn't do that.
But you know what, he's a rocker.
That's why when he goes to the clubs
and he's getting all drunk, he jams that.
It's kind of like, it's like saying, he's trying to be jazz
because he's aspiring to be something better than he is.
He built in his head, you know?
So that jazz is like that next step away
from being rock and right.
And I hate to use the word legitimacy.
But I feel like that may be worth the character's trying.
If I play jazz, people will take me more seriously.
That's absolutely what it is.
Because I was a jazz kid when I was younger.
So I'm a saxophone.
So there is that.
I haven't played it decades.
But oh, and I like that you use that piece of it.
It sounds like that that plays really well into the plot
because he's down on this lock and he finds himself
in this place.
Yeah.
He brings a lot of stuff on himself as well.
Maybe it's not all just being the world beating you up.
Well, that's why I think he's fun because he's real.
You know, like he has a task that he has to do
that not normal people do every day.
Taking something's life.
But he has, like we said, as one does.
Yeah.
But as he's doing about his night in the back of his head,
just like we all do, we have something else
we're wanting to do that's more important in our mind.
His is to go and play at midnight at the tonic club.
So he kind of does some short takes from shortcuts.
He shouldn't be doing which we now answered the question
of where the title comes.
I miss that question.
Tonic had a mole.
It was actually two versions, two reasons.
This I believe is a subtonic note, right?
And music, that was the first one.
OK.
And then it was, oh, gin and tonic.
That kind of just made sense.
Tonic.
And then we named it tonic group.
But he doesn't drink gin and tonic in the back.
I know.
No, whiskey.
No, whiskey.
Just that.
I don't know.
It's two.
But I think if he did, yeah, two on the note,
but maybe that steers away from the actual more of the theme
of the film, too.
True.
True.
And there's one last thing.
I'll allow it.
Tonic, the cleansing, you know, to take a tonic.
That's really what he has to do.
It doesn't matter.
It's all stupid fun stuff.
And nobody's to know this stuff with Billy and me.
But then it leads to, hey, you know what?
Let's do a verse.
Let's do a director commentary.
Let's do a writer commentary.
Because that's one of the things that Alex and I argue all the time.
He's a little bit younger than me.
So I'm very physical media oriented.
Oh, yeah.
And he's not.
So for me, it's, you know, I need that director commentary.
We talked about that earlier.
I need that trivia track.
I need those deleted scenes.
And I don't think you get enough of that with streaming.
You just don't, you know, you might get an alternate audio track.
But that's not, I want to know, like we talked about the process.
I want to hear the director talk about, you know,
unless you get like, I think it's young Frankenstein,
where Mel Brooks gets a half an hour in and goes,
I've said I'm not going to say I'm just going to enjoy the rest of the movie.
It's like, no, but yeah, I love that stuff, too,
because you get to see, you know, or like Tropic Thunder,
where it's all three of them.
And you know how Rob Downey says in the film,
I stay in character through the commentary.
He does.
That's amazing.
He's still in character.
Jack Black shows up late within and out.
And he starts eating and they're asking,
and why they didn't bring for them.
And that's the stuff that I did.
That's why I love doing stuff like at Film Festivals.
And you guys, you know, we're lucky enough to have you guys sit down with us
because you get to tell us the stuff that maybe we don't get to deal with
in the film itself, where, you know, and that's why I love Film Festivals
because you get that Q and A time, where we get to pick your brain, some, you know.
Yeah, and we want to share it.
I mean, we have some scenes that didn't,
we fully cut the original edit that we decided not to use in this cut that you're going to see.
But we have a good partner with Falson, the future today that we're going to get to show
some of this stuff and talk about and do that directly.
Will you talk about some of the some of the deleted scenes in the Q and A?
Um, sure.
We will.
Yeah, we'll talk about one.
There's one in particular that I, you know, that I miss very dearly,
that Jason cut.
He does.
He's blaming me, but there's a final cut for Davis.
Oh, the buck being passed.
I will say, I will say something that I'm just very proud of this as a team and all of us is that, you know,
shoot the film of these circumstances, 15 and a half, 16 days, whatever it was, 15 and a half there, 15 and a half.
Okay.
And you said you scouted for like months, right?
Oh, well, more than that.
But I've put the year before probably, yeah,
for what you were trying to do, if you're trying to do that in 15 days,
15 days in the middle of July in Dallas, Texas.
Let's not forget July.
Absolutely.
But what I was going to say was that doing all of that prepping the way we did and putting that doing a film like that,
we, we were able to finish it first off, which is crazy.
Uh, some of the situations we had, um, but, you know, I lost my train of thought, so I got, I don't know what I was going to say.
Some situation, we were still dealing with some COVID protocols as well.
We had some replacements that we had to do last minute as well because of positive COVID tests.
So, you know, this was actually our third film that made Perry, Calveter, which has been a pain in our ass.
I'm glad I was on the tail end of that.
I'm sure.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So did you already say that we had to change schedules because of COVID testing?
You know, we had a system DP that got tested positive and then you have to change.
You have to change crew fast and shooting shot, shot schedules.
Yeah.
It's hard.
It's very tricky.
Yeah.
I was going to say something.
I hate that.
Eric needs it.
It'll come to you later.
It'll come to me when I'm done.
I always try to think about what I was thinking about up until that point and sometimes that triggers it for me.
Well, you know, the old saying it must not be very important.
So I'm going to pass it on.
And then you'll start about us.
You'll get a very efficient and finishing this and and, uh, yeah, that's it.
But we had talked about like with the schedule you were trying to keep in the way you were shooting the film.
That much prep has to happen and they're getting the high signs.
So let's do some shameless self promotion before we let you go.
After tonight, give us websites, give us social media,
give us everything where people can, you can contact with you and this film.
Well, the biggest social piece that we have right now is our Instagram page,
Sonic movie.
Go follow that.
That's where everything goes out on.
Luckily, we have an amazing cast that has way more followers and all of us in this building.
Follow Ed Westwick, that's many.
Vernon Davis, which really doesn't have much.
Laurie Petty's in the movies.
Oh, love her.
Yeah.
Love her.
Sorry, I remember.
I was saying, okay, go go.
Today Westwick, we were able to shoot this film and we have so much.
I think the original cut that we did was over two and a half hours and 15 days.
So we got that much footage of usable footage.
It just wasn't the result.
It is just it is just the pacing obviously, right?
You're not going to watch a two and a half hour movie unless you got, you know, some reason.
You engage me.
You can have me as long as you need me.
But my, well, I'm just proud that we were able to do that because 15 days and that many, that much.
Yeah, no, it's pretty insane.
Yeah, our original edit, we were at two and a half hours.
So we just, we just know in today's market with distribution we've been there before.
We knew what was going to happen.
Well, that I'm just going to wait for the director's car.
Maybe we'll be waiting along and find it.
All right.
So the movie is tonic beyond the look out of it.
We'll be streaming for you in about three weeks.
Yes.
Have a great time tonight.
Thank you.
You guys were sitting down with us.
It's our honor.
This is the clubhouse podcast.
We are live at the USA Film Festival.
I think we're tagging out.
I think we are.
Don, tell me what we're doing.
I'm hearing crickets.
I'm literally hearing crickets.
Oh, thank y'all.
Thank you so much.
We appreciate you guys have a great show.
Oh, happy to be, happy to be here.
All right.
Alex, you're going to come sit back down.
Hmm.
Uh, we look under Patreon.
Look for a sunset lounge DFW.
That's our network.
And that's how I just plug that for everybody at home, too.
That works out nicely.
We are at the Angelica Film Center at Mockingbird Station as we are getting close to the end of our time.
Yep.
I believe we're going to have a couple of actors from tonic that are going to be joining us shortly.
All right.
I just wait for just waiting undone for confirmation.
I'm looking for Billy Blair because I've met him a few times.
I know that there was a stop off in a
facility fair enough that it has been delaying.
All right, fair enough.
And there's a lot going on.
It's a film festival down here in Angelica.
Well, but in the meantime, let's talk about next Sunday when we're going to be live at Rough Rider Stadium in Frisco for their May the fourth.
I am so excited for going to be there.
Go to writers baseball.com slash specials.
Use the code.
Let's ride 25.
What that'll do for you for 30 Thursdays.
It's going to get you a preloaded ticket for $6 towards your first drink or use of concessions will be there next Sunday.
But every Thursday home game for the Rough Riders is Thursday Thursday.
They have a lazy river in the outfield and that'll be only open for 21 and up on those days.
But we'll be there for intergalactic Star Wars Day next week will be live.
We'll get you more details as the week goes on.
Cannot wait to get to that.
That's going to be so much fun.
Riders baseball.com slash specials.
Use the code.
Let's ride 25 for your thirsty Thursdays.
All right.
We have guests guests or guests.
Yes, or guests.
All right.
Get right up on that microphone.
Tell everybody who you are and we'll get moving.
Get right up on it.
You could even take it off if you prefer to hold.
If it's easier to hold you that way, I got you.
There we go.
There you go.
My name is Joe Machado.
Play Joey the Bowser.
Intonic, which it starts here in about 10 minutes.
How are you feeling right now?
I don't know.
Let's go down with the volumes.
Keep talking.
I'm going to fix it.
Hey, is it good?
Oh, yeah.
So you got into this.
It's how excited are you?
Is it like a sort of nervous energy?
You can't wait to see it on the big screen or are you just more along the lines of?
I know I nailed it.
It's not my first rodeo, especially work of Jason and Derek Presley.
So it's just a great feeling to see the product that works so hard,
ready.
So people can see it in a, with this soon to be released, right?
The 16th.
Nice.
And it's going to be everywhere.
Yeah, everywhere.
There's going to be a lot of major platforms.
So it's good.
Another step.
So you have that like artists feeling like we made something.
And yeah.
So you start a product.
You have to finish the project.
So it's a team effort takes a lot of moving parts, a lot of, a lot of talent.
So here is the lead actor.
There's my dude, Billy Blair, he's the man.
The natural this guy right here, you can sit on that.
See, Billy, we've been for two years.
You and I have been trying to get together.
I'm finally doing it.
I'm sorry, I'm a little late, but I'm actually late.
You're fashionable.
You're always fashion.
I feel under threat.
The player is with us really.
And I have been been talking back and forth for a couple of years.
Dallas comic show, which was this weekend.
So I'm finally guy you and I get to finally sit down and with one of your
co-stars of tonic.
Oh, man, this guy's amazing.
Are you guys, are you guys ready for this?
This is to go.
Yeah, man.
We're in the bar.
That's the yes.
No, but like, I don't know if it was like one of you.
You, you know, you and my brother, he and my child have a fantastic scene.
Yeah, it's a great thing.
And this and I hope that was listening is actually listening on their phone right
here in this, uh, in Chalica theater, Benion, Dallas.
Well, we're actually doing video.
You can see the little dot on the screen.
Yeah, we're on video right now.
Oh, okay.
All right.
So I mean, you guys, you guys are ready.
Don't worry.
We got the money in the middle.
Oh my god.
I rushed over here, man.
I just, you know, we're just doing a promo video for the platform.
Possum, uh, finally go, at least nationwide, uh, uh, May 16th on, uh,
Possum exclusive.
But tonight is exclusively here.
Yes, sir.
And you get to watch this with an audience.
You guys are here.
Yeah.
How are you still giving me to watch this with an audience?
Oh, man.
I don't know.
The, I got, I got all the nerves hit on me at an every angle.
It's a big night.
It's a huge.
It's a big night.
And I had a big responsibility in this movie.
From, from start to finish and, of course, they put the pressure on me and said,
you know, if you suck, this movie's going to suck.
Uh, it's not my emotional, man.
I'm like, I ain't going to suck.
But you guys find out, you know, whether you're here tonight or if you're like in Alabama,
and you can see and brick and, uh, floss them on May 16th at multiple times, right?
And this beautiful guy, man, I didn't see what this guy.
Yes, he was so convincing, right?
It was my pleasure.
I had people asking me for drinks at the bar.
He's my bartender, guy.
He told me it's on, it's on somebody else's tab.
Let's go.
Yeah, exactly.
We have a small budget.
You somebody else's tab, but they said you filmed this in the middle of July in deep
album, which for those people that don't live here, that is like prime for like a thousand
degrees.
Yeah.
Did those conditions, it feels like a film like this, those conditions would almost
enhance the film itself.
Were you feeling that way at the time?
Yeah, man, to be honest with you, I mean, just with, of course, you know, we didn't have
a big budget for this and the crew was in as big.
I don't want to say skeleton crew, but at the time, you know, that was like the telling
of, um, of, um, COVID, you know, all the protocols and stuff like that.
And we managed to do it.
And I mean, I don't want to say it's like a gorilla kind of filmmaking,
but you did a lot of, they were saying you did a lot of stick and move because you're
right.
By the way, introduce yourself to everybody, please, sir.
I'm a Sean Machado.
Okay.
Good.
This is my father here and we got to share the screen and with Billy Blair.
Of course.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So let's get back into it.
But it was a lot of stick and move because deep album is kind of a social hub.
Yeah.
And you're in the middle of summer.
So yeah, skeleton crew, probably not the best term, but you were doing a lot of small
shots and moving from here to there.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And it was intended to do that because if you're going to deep album, man,
you got all kinds of genre in there.
You got, you got, I mean, you got a dares, right?
And that's kind of old country, Southern or whatever, even punk.
And then you have other places that are hip hop, rock, all that doing piano bars.
We incorporate all that.
I mean, there's no score in this movie whatsoever.
But you hear all those elements in the background.
You know, that sound, I forgive what kind of sound it is in the background.
But that's what you hear.
And a cool thing about also shooting in deep album is that we're not showing like
everybody thinks Texas, Dallas, but you know, shit, kickers and stuff like that.
No, man, it's got all the elements.
All of this is a very diverse town.
It's very diverse, especially when you go to deep album.
So and we showed it.
And that was like, that was a number one priority that we wanted to show.
They're telling me we only got a couple more minutes.
So I want to make sure that people understand this movie will be available to stream
in about three weeks for some.
Did I get that right?
Awesome.
Awesome.
Awesome.
Look at that.
Awesome.
We also want to make sure we want you guys to plug yourself too.
So where can they contact you?
Your social media things like that.
Billy, I know that you're very active.
So I'm going to go.
OK, well, I'm Billy Blair, I'm the star of this movie.
I'm an actor slash musician.
You can get me all pretty much all the platforms.
I think I got under Billy Blair official.
OK.
You'll see some of it's got the blue check mark and all that.
And yeah, and if you message me, you know, I sometimes message you back,
but don't be asking for shit.
So I'm Joe Machado actor, Marshall Waters.
And you can find me on social media, Joe Machado TV, Instagram, et cetera, et cetera.
And here we are.
Awesome.
Yeah, if you find a look up the Machado brothers,
I'm the Jean Machado on Instagram or you can look up Jean Machado on YouTube.
And you see a lot of the fun that I've been up to on there.
There you go.
Gentlemen, thank you so much.
I'm you and I finally get we're going to do this again on a stage.
I can't wait.
I love you guys have a great night.
Congratulations.
I can't wait to hear it.
It goes tonic.
That's the movie you want to see.
And it's going to start here in just a few minutes at the Angelica.
My watch has even told me that this is the clubhouse podcast.
We are live at the Angelica in Mockingbird station.
It is the final night of the USA Film Festival.
And I've lost my team.
There's done.
There's Alex because we're wrapping up guys.
We are wrapping up Alex is there's a sea of people.
There's no need to sit for six days.
I love that day.
All right.
Oh my goodness, mercy.
Well, that was an interview.
I think this is how many of these have we done together?
I've lost.
I mean, if you're counting years, it's been 12 years.
So speaking of sticking moves, boom, boom, boom, back forth.
You guys have the chemistry interviews.
I've seen you do in a lot of you brother.
That's just a lot.
That's true.
Back true with that producer.
You guys are all.
It's just, you know, it's it's always a blessing to be able to do stuff like this.
And a blessing and a blessing if you can't share it.
I can give a shout out coming out of that stone's the archaeology film.
Uh-huh.
Ready for this.
One of my local heroes is not coming out.
Gotta say hi to him and say hi to the tune from the Fantastic Bay Ford was breakfields.
W F A A with him in the morning.
I didn't even see him.
Yeah, he was coming out this right.
Nice.
It's gonna be I need to shout out W F A. He's awesome.
Can't wait to see a affiliate.
Holy Mac.
I just said holy Mac.
Yeah.
This is awesome.
All right, boys.
Let's uh, any final thoughts before we do the plugs because I think he was a film for having us out.
Always we love the USA Film Festival.
Everybody here is so great to us all the time or fortunate every time we get to do one of these.
And we're on back to back weeks of remote shows.
Hey, it may fourth.
I know next time it allows to think you do the shivers always.
That'll be May 17th.
That won't be live.
We'll be live to take because they've got cell phone walkers in the school cafeteria so we can't broadcast live.
But we will have audio available for that show available very, very quickly after.
This will be available not for not to tomorrow after as well.
It's not messy.
I'm working on it.
Ryan Massey or a menace.
How are you, brother?
It's good to see you.
Ryan Massey is here.
That man is a menace that we love him.
All right, make sure you're following us all your social medias.
Almost everything is like, thanks for having me.
Yeah, so when you have coming up on the horizon, if we can't, we'll throw you on.
Yeah, we've got a couple of Texas sisters coming.
Texas is coming.
God bless the textures.
The power across compels y'all.
Yeah, the texture says and then possible kingdom with Billy Blair over here.
Yeah, it's got Thurman, the creator on my left.
And then I've got another movie called The Sector Says, but that can't talk about that.
Allegedly.
Allegedly.
Allegedly.
Allegedly.
That's not for discussion.
Because that's a bad word.
Is it a film festival of Brian Massey doesn't show up at least for a couple of minutes?
A couple of minutes.
I got 20.
I got 20 minutes.
We got to go.
I got another thing I got to do.
Hey, thanks for having me on your show.
It's been a really long time.
Call me when you watch some time.
One third of beautiful chaos.
Join us.
It is my dear.
I love you brother.
I love you.
Call me when you watch some time.
You always follow us on your social videos all those everything is junk clubhouse.
Couple of them takes coming up we've also got clubhouse show out there as well.
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