The NFC Preview EXTRAVAGANZA!

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Welcome back, brother.
But you know, four weeks ago I had to take a special trip somewhere and then there
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I'm a little piece up, a town down.
Yeah, damn.
So I've lost been a few minutes later talking about the AT&T.
We've got time we may have to wait till next week because last week we ran barely on time,
but holy cow.
But let's get into it before we get to our NFC preview extravaganza.
I told you guys on social media earlier, hey, Russ, glad you're here, huge announcement.
Coming very soon, probably within the next four weeks, we are joining a new network.
The show will be on the sunset lounge DFW network founded by co-founded, he could say,
by DFW radio legend, Mike Reiner, Alex and I actually had lunch with him today and his
partner Becca, his business partner Becca, who has got this new network and Russ says he's
all on cloud nine from last Friday night, he got to see that he's, he's meeting people.
Russ, meet people.
The show will be part of a new network also on this network.
If you know the ticket, Michael Gruber, our groups has a show there.
We want to prepare you guys because this is going to be a different kind of a deal.
This show will be on Patreon, but the good news is, right now we're going to keep to
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You'll be able to have access to all the shows on the sunset lounge right now we're
one of three, so we're a kind of on the ground floor, we're going to be promoting the
link to that in our social media over the next few weeks.
We're going to have a lot of brand new content to bring you guys and for five bucks a month,
I mean, that's not bad.
So over the next four weeks, we're going to start migrating our content over to this platform.
We are very, very excited.
We've got so much cool stuff planned for you guys, that is going to blow you mind and
it's going to be awesome.
We appreciate how much everybody's rode with us for almost 15 years and we're a 15 year
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We can't wait for you guys to ride with us.
Tell everybody you know, sunset lounge DFW is where you're going to find it on Patreon.
And on board now, because there's going to be some amazing content coming your way.
Also, speaking of Mike Reiner on his podcast, it's called, I just lost the name of it.
You're a dark companion.
You're dark companion.
He has a brand new episode up and yeah, I believe it's on the free version with Kelly
Kitchens who made all this happen.
They're talking about the it came from Texas film festival that will be in Garland on the
weekend of September 13th.
There's so much cool stuff at this festival.
I went to a media event last week for it.
I learned that Garland is the hat capital of Texas.
There are many different cowboy hat manufacturers in Garland.
So yeah, I learned that.
And there's going to be one of the things I'm looking forward to is there is a documentary
on the history of the state of Texas.
So I'm going to be checking that out.
Front of the show Danny Gallagher and his troop the Machi horror picture show will be closing
the festival on Sunday night as they, I've seen the trailer for the movie they're doing.
It's called Rocket Baby Rocket.
It was filmed in Dallas.
Oh, you guys are in third tree after watching that trailer.
Also going to be shown there are some other great documentaries about films taking place
in Texas.
We'll be featuring the last picture show, which is a great film.
And also a giant will be featured.
There's going to be some great great stuff at the it came from Texas film festival.
It's the second annual this year they focused more on westerns.
Don was there last year when they focused more on horror films.
We cannot broadcast that weekend because there's some schedule conflicts, but we want
to support everything Kelly does because she's amazing.
We are going to put the links up, get those weekend passes.
It's not that expensive.
And there's going to be some great stuff happening in downtown Garland that weekend.
All right, boys, let's get into major league baseball standings in the AL East.
The Toronto Blue Jays are five games below 500 and they're 13 and a half back.
This is Steven's division and this division always fascinates me.
There are two games back on Tampa, Tampa now, three back on Boston, who had somebody technically
played for two teams in one night, which is nuts out Boston now, seven and a half back
on Baltimore.
Baltimore is now one game back on the Yankees who have lost two in a row in the AL Central,
the White Sox.
Oh, dear God, put a pin in it.
So we'll just go straight to Detroit Detroit is now eight and a half back.
They're five back on the twins, the twins now two and a half back on Kansas City.
Kansas City, who blows a lead last night when they tried to sweep the Guardians.
The Guardians now have a one game lead over them in the division.
By the way, look at the Kansas City Royals since the AL Starbreak.
It's a little nuts.
But we got a little.
Steven, how does hand up?
What's up, brother?
Oh, no, I was messing with things.
Okay, not a problem.
The AL West.
Now back in the back in the toilet for them.
No.
The angels are now 16 and a half out.
They're three behind the Oakland question marks.
Who is five back on the Rangers, the Rangers now five back on Seattle.
Seattle is now three and a half back on Houston.
Texas is on a three game heater.
The only team in that division that has one more than one game in a row.
In the NL West, the Rockies are terrible.
They're 30 games out of first place and they're 35 under 500.
They are, they could still hit the century mark.
They're 17 games back of San Francisco.
The Giants now nine and a half back of the Padres.
The Padres are a game back on Arizona and the Dodgers have a three and a half game lead
over them.
In the NL Central Don, your Pittsburgh Pirates are in a three ball.
That was you after the Al star break.
The second week in a row.
Broke.
And Livy done.
You broke a Livy had done 62 and 71.
So they will not hit the century mark done.
That's good news.
Yeah.
But you're only a game in a half back on the red since an adding now three back
on St. Louis St. Louis is a game back on the cubs.
The cubs now nine and a half back on Millawoke.
And in the only division that matters, the NL East, the Marlins continue to be terrible.
We're only 15 games away from the century mark.
We are six games back on the nationals.
The nationals now nine back on the Metz, the Metz, three and a half back on Atlanta.
Atlanta's one three in a row, Philly's lost one.
So we're only five games back there.
Milliman, are you ready for North America's favorite game show?
Let's do it.
What is the run differential for the Chicago white socks?
Hey, Mike, Mike's with us.
Steven, you are our guest.
So we will defer to you.
What is the run differential for the Chicago white socks there?
258.
258.
Don.
Be a rounding a number up.
Let's do 275.
All right, Alex, I won't do the prices right game.
I won't do the prices right game.
They want to do it so badly because I was thinking 275 before he said it.
You can agree with him.
That's fine.
You know what?
I'm going to do 285 just to dagger that further.
Because we're getting to 300 with this team.
So to be fair, thank you.
One of the things I'm going to be doing going forward is before I give any data,
I want to give you the previous week's total.
Last week, one week ago tonight, the Chicago white socks had a run differential
of minus 259.
They have reached the century mark, kids.
They are 31 and 104.
Did you see they had 34 people at a game the other day?
And if you get close enough, they might ask you to play.
They have a win percentage of 230.
To help you put that in perspective, the team ahead of them, the Detroit title
figures, who they are currently 37 games behind, have a win total of a win percentage
of 504.
That is over double the win percentage for Chicago.
To help you understand that number, they are 45 and a half games back of first place.
Imagine if they were in a good division.
They are 18 and 51 at home.
They are 13 and 53 on the road.
They are on a seven game skid one and nine in their last 10.
If we were playing prices right, rules for the first time in a while, Alex would be out of
it.
And the Chicago White Sox currently have a run differential of minus 282.
Now, they might beat our prediction of minus 300 by Sunday, but I'm saying there's a chance
as badly as this team is playing.
How many games do they have between now and then?
Minus 282, bro, when you look at their upcoming schedule since you've asked, I can't
even minus, there's no way they don't go belt a belt.
So they're upcoming schedule.
They've lost, they've got swept by the Rangers.
Tomorrow in Saturday, they are at home against your New York Metz.
Oh, we're going to ruin the fun.
That's a three game set in the school Sunday.
That was Stephen choking on the Metz being spoken of.
Now, here's their next six after that.
Oh, no.
Starting on Labor Day, three at Baltimore.
Then a day off, then three at Boston, then three at home versus Cleveland.
That's their next nine games after the Metz.
They're getting smoked.
Then the weekend of the 13th, they're at home versus the Oakland question marks.
So there's a little bit of a reprieve because they've got three versus Oakland, but then
they've got three at law.
So they've got the bottom two of the AL West.
Then they've got a day off, then they're three at San Diego, then a day off, then they've
got three with law at home and then they're at Detroit.
They've got a hit, they've got a hit, they're going to hit minus 300.
I'm going to say, I'm saying they're there before the end of the Baltimore series.
They might be there on Labor Day.
The Metz will find a way to screw up and lose a game to them by six in the middle of it.
But that'll be what holds it to Tuesday.
I kind of want to see the Metz blow them out in one game just to try to get them there
before Sunday.
Peter Lanzo, seven home runs in one game or if I mean, like, they're so close.
They're so close.
18 runs.
I'm just saying.
All right, hard knocks to the Chicago Bears episode four.
I'm assuming we're getting episode five because they didn't deal with the cuts.
So on the evening, we're going to get that next week and then we go right into the
AFC North after that of want to shout out Ian Wheeler.
This is a kid.
He tore his ACL in the final preseason game, but he's actually been accepted to med school.
So he can work on himself.
But they're basically going to red shirt him.
So they didn't cut him.
Will Bon was talking about it today.
He said he's going to be watching this kid.
He's where our number 33.
So he's, you know, one shy of Walter Payton.
They did a fair.
Yeah, well, if I can go back, what was the white socks, the number of losses they have
right now?
104.
Okay.
What?
What do you tell that tab?
So yeah, because the the most losses in him, Major League Baseball, first was with
the Cleveland Spiders of 134.
And then secondly is in New York, meds of 62 of 120.
So they might go in the second place.
So they're saying that as a kid.
Oh, interestingly enough, they do not acknowledge the spiders.
In current regulations, just because of how far back it was and it was a barn storming
team.
So the official Major League record is 120 for the meds and it's all we have left.
They did a sequence on hard knocks with three of the other three quarterbacks.
They did like a fair spieler thing where they went to the big, tall building in Chicago
and they stood out in the glass, that was kind of funny.
Adrian Colbert watched this kid.
He had a great fourth preseason game.
I like what he's doing.
Caleb Williams saying he doesn't get nervous before a game and talking to the cheese and
they're like, wait, till next weekend.
He's like, they're like, we don't think you're going to get to that first regular
season game in that.
He's like, I don't get nervous.
No, like, we'll call you basically and Tyson Beijing.
I'm also pulling for this kid.
I'm still not following for the rope dope.
I'm not following for the hard knocks rope a dope, but there's some good kids on this
team.
I'm actually looking forward to see how they do.
The only other head headline that we're going to talk about right before we went
on air, it broke Brandon I.Uq does sign with the 49ers, four years, 120 million dollars.
It's a wrong deal for them to get done before the season starts.
So we'll see how that works out.
We're not going to talk about the final week of preseason because we want to get to our
AFC, but we do want to talk about because Alex will be out the next next episode, maybe
too.
But so we want to talk about week one in the NFL, which is why he's not going to be here.
Open our next Thursday night on your NBC Baltimore Kansas City, Kansas City is giving
three Steven over under sporty in the hat, all right, I'm sorry, that's actually that's
Sunday.
You know, I over under 46 and I have them, sorry, it's like I'm wrong.
Are we thinking who's going to win this game?
Yep.
And when you think that when you take Kansas City minus three, no, give me the Ravens.
I just, I think the Ravens have it's the Super Bowl hangover.
So I was the start of the season.
We saw it with Detroit last year.
I've always said that first game should be a rematch of the Super Bowl, that's just me.
Done.
Thank you, Ravens.
All right, Ravens plus the three Alex, it might be a sweep because Kansas City still
trying to figure out their new offense.
It is not.
I'm going to take Kansas City minus the three.
We talked about this last week, it's not that I don't trust Baltimore, it's I trusted
defending champs near champs till somebody tells you otherwise, Friday night, we have
a game next week.
The dumbest game on the schedule.
We're going live to South America and who teams that can't wear their colors.
Exactly.
Zon, did you know about this?
We did talk about it a couple of months ago.
But I don't remember if Don was on the show.
Oh, what's the deal?
Literally green bay and the Eagles have a primary color of green.
They booked a stadium in South Palo that they essentially treat like the bloods and
the crypts.
The home team is blue and they acknowledge no green.
No green is allowed.
So let's put the two teams that have green is their primary color in that picture.
I'm assuming that green bay will probably wear yellow, they will be wearing their
throwbacks, both teams, which are interestingly enough are blue and yellow in various
formats.
So right now, Philly, giving free, Don.
Philly, I think they want revenge from last year and they're just into the last
half of the season blowout.
I think they want to get revenge and get on the right track.
Alex, I think Philly is going to be in a better position and they're covering.
Steven, I'm going to go opposite.
I'm going to say that she's had to do it surprisingly.
My gut tells me to take green bay plus the three.
I just, there's some instability going on in Philly right now.
And I'm not sure how I feel about it.
Let's go to Sunday, the eighth.
We're going to start with your early games, noon central.
Don, your Steelers will go to a town you were just in.
They open at Mercedes Ben stadium against the Falcons and the Falcons are giving them
three.
Beef against that stadium, by the way, the, uh, I got, I got, so I got to take my
Steelers on that one.
I'm at it on land in that stadium, Mike says no, she said, uh, but yeah, I, I know
what's on for referring to, we could talk about it all fair.
Alex, you know, that that one's going to be close.
I think Atlanta is still going to be figuring it out.
Pittsburgh defense keeps it close enough to cover.
Steven, you said, heard me last week, I have the Steelers win the AS, you know,
it this year.
So I'm going to have them win.
Give me Pittsburgh all day Atlanta is in a tail spin.
And that's, it's not going to end anytime soon.
I don't care who they've signed.
Uh, give me Pittsburgh all day, uh, Buffalo hosting Arizona Buffalo's giving them
six Alex.
This is one of my favorite things to look for, and they say West Coast team
going east in the early set.
They're going to be exhausted.
They have no defense Buffalo won't need to have figured it out to cover by more
than I touched down Steven.
Well, game, we do Arizona at Buffalo Buffalo giving six.
Oh, and if you want the bitter Viking, it's fans.
Yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's Buffalo.
Don, yeah, give me Buffalo all day Arizona is not going to.
Buffalo is going to be tough and it's time.
Mark stadium, uh, let's see, Tennessee going to Chicago, Chicago's giving for
and a half, Steven.
I'm, I'm actually going to go with Chicago, surprisingly.
All right, Don, up, you got out there.
That bears.
All right, Alex, I hit me with what the line is in the matchup again, please.
Chicago minus four and a half in the matchup.
Tennessee at Soldier Stadium, or Soldier Field, for one more year or two.
Yeah, the Chicago get is they're all the credit is on their rookies and
they're incoming offense, but that defense is still legit and Tennessee's offense is not
give me the bears.
That's a full sweet because I again, I'm not following for the rope.
A dope, but I agree with more about Tennessee than it does Chicago.
Yeah, uh, New England goes to Cincinnati.
Cincinnati is giving them nine and a half, Steven.
Wait, who, Cincinnati, who, Cincinnati's giving New England nine
and a half. Oh, oh, yeah, take that unless, you know what, no, I'm going to do
this just to be controversial.
Patriots and they will win in overtime by a safety.
Don.
Wait, I Zimmerman, I love you, but not I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I take, I got take the,
I've got we were all going to go do the same things.
I had to do so, yeah, no.
Patriots are going to be garbage, but I don't even know if your Mar Chase is going
to be there, but to eat, it's a calendar day, a banner day, give me Cincinnati.
Cody Burrow's going to have a great day, too.
It's he has adrenaline in his soul since Cincinnati, give me the nine and a half
because this is not going to be fun to watch for either of these teams.
And if you don't live in Cincinnati or New England or have the Sunday ticket, you're
not watching a doubt of this game, and you might not have it in those towns, Houston
goes the indie Houston giving two and a half done.
Houston Houston, Alex.
Yeah, I don't, I don't like agreeing that it's Houston, but Anthony Richardson made
die in the first series.
Steven, do you know how I feel about Anthony Richardson?
It'll take him half a season that though it touched down, and he might be doing it from
like I are, so I'm going to go with Houston.
Indie's got a lot to prove to me, and I think two and a half is generous.
I think Houston runs all over them.
Jacksonville goes to Joe Robby Stadium Miami is giving three Steven.
Oh, I'm wearing the shirt.
I don't like Mike McDay, but I'm going to ride with dolphins.
Alex, I actually think this game's going to be closer than people expect, but the
dolphins offense is going to be good enough, and everybody's healthy to start the year.
They're going to cover.
Don.
I'm going to take Miami.
It's a clean sweep.
I can't wait to watch this team.
I'm so excited.
You and Lee thought you were going to say a much higher number.
I was all locked and loaded to say Jaguar, so then it three.
No, because I mean, basically a pickum, because you get three, you give three for being a
deal.
Yeah, Carolina goes to the Caesar's Palace Superdome.
Caesar's Salad.
New Orleans is giving four.
Alex.
Carolina sucks.
They're going to continue to suck.
Give me New Orleans.
Steven.
They got rid of like the two good players they had.
So yeah, just give me New Orleans.
Don.
Same thing.
No, but it's a divisional game.
So for me, all bets are off.
I'm giving me Carolina.
I just don't trust the Saints right now.
Until they can show me otherwise.
I do not trust New Orleans.
Mike's Minnesota Vikings go to MetLife Stadium to play the New York football giants.
Minnesota is giving up point.
Don.
I'm going to take the Giants.
Steven.
Oh, man, to be Alex go.
Let me take on this one first.
I'm going to let you think on this one.
Allow me to say, JJ McCarthy isn't hurt.
I take Minnesota all day with Sam Donald back in MetLife.
Give me the Giants.
Brian Burns is going to be in his kitchen all day.
Well, I guess not going to judge because I was just thinking of that Vikings defense and everything.
I was just like, if there's nothing I hope that defense anymore.
Hey, my home bar in Addison, TNT sports page.
I love y'all.
I know a bunch of it.
Yeah, I'm sorry.
I'm going with the Giants.
Yeah, that defense is Harris and Smith and a whole lot of replacement level.
You know what?
Do you mean Minnesota?
I, I like their offense.
I just do Justin Jefferson.
Let's go.
Yeah, I got a fun stat on him later.
Let's get into the late game someday.
The almost autumn wind is a rain.
Las Vegas goes to
Los Angeles superchargers.
Chargers giving three and a half.
Steven.
Raiders.
Alex, I hate that hook at the three and a half, but I'm still going chargers.
Don.
Chargers too.
Give me chargers minus three and a half.
I just, I feel a lot better with it at three, but three and a half makes me think.
God, the defense of front is going to eat on San Diego or Los Angeles.
What are they called this year?
Denver goes to Seattle.
Seattle is giving them five and a half.
As the Bonyx era begins, Don.
Seattle.
Steven.
Yeah, I got to get the out of Alex at five and a half, give me Denver.
I think it's going to be one of those where it may be a late cover, but Seattle's putting in
new systems as well.
So five and a half, I feel is too high.
That stadium.
Give me Seattle, not just the five and a half.
I think that there's just something about I, if I'm a, I didn't want to play in that stadium.
I just don't like, if I'm the, the visiting team,
oh, give me, give me Seattle minus five and a half.
Cowboys go to Cleveland.
Cleveland is giving them two and a half.
Steven.
Oh, I, I think Cleveland, there's just so much dis, configuration and everything wrong with the Cowboys.
So I'm just, I'm going to ride with that defensive Cleveland.
Don.
I'm going to take Cleveland.
Alex, I hate when we all agree.
Yeah, Dallas should be able to cover this number, but they won't.
We don't agree. I want Dallas plus the two.
I just, it's not that I trust Dallas.
I trust Cleveland less.
That's a very valid point.
It's just this, this team is, it's going to continue to be in disarray because you're paying a quarter
back a quarter of a billion dollars, a hundred percent guaranteed.
Like, they, no. Cleveland may, wow, this game's six to three.
Washington goes to Raymond James Stadium.
Tampa Bay gives three and a half Don.
Tampa Bay. Steven.
I think it's going to be the one where Tampa sleep walks into it.
I might actually take Washington both to sell Alex, I agree with Steven.
Washington looks like they're firing on all cylinders and Tampa Bay.
Still trying to figure out the laws of Dave Canales.
Again, divisional game, all bets are off.
Can't bet.
They're not on the green division.
They're not in the same division.
Oh, that's right. NFC East NFC South.
It's a conference game.
Yeah.
I've got to, I've got to pick the wrong data stops and up in glue.
Um, I'm, I'll just give me my buck and ears.
I don't, I don't trust Washington either.
You know, um, Sunday night football.
The Rams go to Ford Field.
Detroit giving three and a half, Alex.
Interestingly enough, this is a rematch where the Rams covered in the playoffs.
And I feel like only Detroit got better.
So give me the cats.
All right, Steven.
I'm ready to buy an e-caps this season.
So let's go to Troy.
I do love him.
I do love him.
Done.
Detroit.
Give me Detroit as well.
Rams, they started to look a little bit better as the season went on.
But I still don't think they know who they are yet.
Uh, I think Detroit wins this game.
And I think they win it by least touchdown.
Monday, night football.
God bless you NFL.
Where you schedule the things.
Jets at Levi's stadium.
San Francisco currently giving three and a half, Steven.
49ers, but by 70.
Done.
49ers.
Alex, you actually cut out for me.
I didn't hear the line.
San Francisco giving three and a half.
This, this might be the craziest pick.
I kind of think the Jets win.
All right, I kind of think the Den's win.
Jets win outright.
And of the last year, we, well, but we talked about Brandon.
Are you getting his new deal?
And I said, that's the wrong deal for them to get done without Trent Williams.
I think the Jets defense is going to eat.
I am not betting against San Francisco in this game.
I think that it's going to take the Jets time, especially with A.A.
Ron Rogers, I just, I'm not ready to say that Jets can win this game.
Especially now that we got the IU exciting.
They've made some moves in the off season.
San Francisco is going to win this game.
And they're at home.
This, this may not be fun to watch.
I'm just saying.
All right.
We're probably going to run late and I'm okay with it because
sports took a little bit longer than it normally does this week.
But I will defer to Alex and Alex, we will go as long as you need to go, brother.
So what we're going to do a little bit differently.
I have heard the cries in my DMs of more betting content.
So what we're going to do is we are going to speed run the facts.
We are going to go alphabetically by division.
We're going to hit it in order to finish from last year.
Now, I'm going to run through the facts.
I'm going to clarify what bet I'm looking at.
And then we're going to do the over under gentleman.
Do we understand it is your world.
I am paying rent from this point forward in this episode.
I'm just here for snarking comments.
I hope Ray, I can hear me.
She said, Joe, listen later.
She's actually doing her show right now.
I know we talked.
We're going to shout out to her show real quick before we get started because, you know,
but like pouring takes it's a predominantly cowboy stuff.
So if you like that kind of stuff and that misery go for it.
But it's a great show.
They go from board of our cocktails,
boards, the whole thing.
It's fun.
So check it out on all platforms.
All right.
Let's go.
Well, ending of the Alice Cowboy.
That's who we kick off in the NFC East.
So there's going to be a steep decline in the offensive line with a lot of lost
starters, but they do have some solid people still there.
Plus they're going to have some turnover regression.
The Dallas Cowboys are the only team in the NFL to have a better than plus 10
turnover rate over the last three seasons.
It has happened seven times in the last 30 years.
The average rate on the fourth season for everyone of those teams plus two.
So their defense is not going to get as many turnovers or it's not going to be as well with the
turnovers as it has been the last few years.
Now, the big problem that they have is despite having 31 more plays than every other team last year,
Dallas's red zone TD percentage was trash.
And part of that reason, and here's what's really fun.
How many teams are in the NFL Rob?
32.
Jack Prescott ranked 48 out of 48 on bad decision passes into coverage last year.
I heard a very interesting stat earlier today.
Joe Thysman was on Bob and Tom.
You know how many quarterbacks started games last year in the NFL?
It's like 60 something because of all the injuries to the starters.
Yep.
It was in the 60s because it was an average of two almost two per, it was 65.
Because the average was just over two per team.
Because there was only like seven all year long healthy quarterbacks.
Like, and surprisingly, two of was one of those.
Yeah, that was a shot.
But 48, 48 different quarterbacks through double digit passes.
And DAC was the worst at throwing into throwing bad passes into coverage.
But if you want a positive and with a bet I'm looking at for the Dallas Cowboys,
CD Lamb to lead the NFL in touchdowns.
The man had 12 last season at the end of week six.
He only had one.
So if you extrapolate every game in his stats after week six,
that's 17 touchdowns.
And that would lead the league.
And he had the highest fantasy points of any player in the league last year.
Yes, he did.
Well, he's the only one they got to throw to at this point apparently.
But the win total this year for the Dallas Cowboys is nine and a half.
Don, where do you got him at?
Ah, I'm going to say, actually eight on them with all the starters out.
Steven.
Uh, I'm flopping.
I'm going to go nine and eight.
Very like, yeah, they're going to be under the thrush rub.
They have the buy in week seven.
They have a pretty weak schedule before the buy.
They will get four of their eight wins before the buy.
Their last two opponents before the buy are actually three of their last four are going to be tough.
But they can pull one of these out because they're they're hosting Baltimore in week three at Pittsburgh in week five.
And then versus Detroit in week six, uh, but I agree with Don on eight.
They're going to have a tough road to row after the buy.
Uh, their Thanksgiving day will be hosting the Giants.
Um, and then they've got Sunday or Monday night football in the week after.
So peak to the survivor contest.
I'm already earmarking Dallas for Thanksgiving.
So yeah, I'm going with eight.
I agree with Don.
I am shocked that I'm the only one that has them going over the number at 10.
So next up, we have the Philadelphia Eagles.
The biggest issue the Eagles are going to have to overcome is not Jason Kelsey's retirement
and possibly killing the Tush push because he signed, say, Juan Barclay, who is their first running
back, who succeeds in short yardage since La Garret, Blunt.
There's a name that hasn't popped in in a while.
It's been seven years.
Now, what they did struggle at was red zone play across the board on offense and defense.
And they changed up their coordinators to two proven guys who know how to do that specifically
in Vic Fangeo on the defense and Kelly Moore on the offense.
I think they're going to be a lot better than some people have been worried about with the
rumblings about Jalen Hertz and Nick Seriani not getting along.
My crazier part with them.
They only face a rest disadvantage once and it is in week three and it is one day.
I say that the Eagles are undefeated into November.
Wow.
And my bedding line for them based on the Tush push dying is the under on Jalen Hertz's rushing
touchdowns at 10.
So, Rob, I'm going to call you first on this one.
You're at 10 and a half.
How many wins do you have the Eagles?
They've got the buy in week five, which means they've got to run a hard road after the buy.
I think it's bold to say they're going to go into November undefeated because I've got them at nine.
I think they stumble out of the gate.
Did I talked about that earlier with Green Bay Dawn?
What's the line again?
10 and a half.
I need to go 12.
Woo! Steven.
I've already heard enough problems arising with that defense and Vic Fangeo just like it was in my
family. So, I'm not surprised there.
I don't trust Jalen Hertz long term.
A lot of injuries on that offense to that can happen because a lot of people get her.
Give me 10.
But yeah, I don't trust him.
I guess the way you do.
Like, I still think they're the best out of that division, but I don't trust them.
Now, to clarify, I think that they might be undefeated until November.
I would probably bedding on it, but I do have them slowing down and finishing it 12 like
Dawn does. Okay. Now, I already tease the first little note I have for the New York football
giants to Dawn and Rob. So, Steven, this one's just for you and anybody watching.
Danny dumpster fires sucks and I can prove it mathematically.
You don't have to prove anything mathematically. We could just look with our eyes.
Yeah, the D line is going to be great, but everything else is going to be trash on that defense.
They're going to be giving up points and there's no way they're going to be able to keep up.
They will absolutely get hit with slant routes to death just to avoid that past rush.
Now, the one positive they have might be Malik neighbors who is an absolute freak athletic talent.
And even if only half of his 197 targets are accurate, he's still going to go well over his
yardage that at 850 and a half. So, with a wind total set at 6.5.
Dawn, where do you got him?
I'm going to go 8.
Oh, Steven. I'm going to have them right at 5. Rob. The advantage that New York can look at right now
is they play the NFC South. They do get to host Tampa Bay before going to Dallas on Thanksgiving
day, which is also good for them because that Tampa Bay games in noon game.
So, they get some time to rest. I'm still sitting at 5. Interestingly enough, three of the
four of us have them at 5 wins. Dawn, you are the outlier at 8. I appreciate your positivity.
It's just misplaced. So, the last one we have in the NFC East, Washington Commanders,
which I may refer to as the commies in case anybody gets confused. Jade and Daniels
is either going to break the rookie rushing record or v on our IR by week five.
The reason I say that is Cliff Kingsbury called 93 designed runs for rookie Kyler Murray,
who is not as fast looking like a toddler running with something in his mouth.
In his rookie year and Cliff Kingsbury is now the Washington Commanders offensive coordinator calling
plays. There's going to be a lot of designed runs and they're going to have to make
Jade and Daniels throw it some to make them respect those run plays. They have two home games
against weaker opponents that are negated by week long rest disadvantages, which means there's
a rest disadvantage of six or more days. So, every two of their home games are basically
against teams that have two weeks to prepare for them. That's going to make it tougher.
But with Jade and Daniels having to throw it in that same scope, I did not look up at his
rushing numbers because there's a possibility he just gets his head taken off.
So, I like Terry McCoran over 900 and a half receiving yards because who else is going to catch
the ball there and don't say Luke McAfrey. So, win total at six and a half. Steven,
where you got him? I got them with five as well. I think they're going to be a team that's better
in year two, but this year it's going to be the feeling of our process. But I'm really
like how that team's constructed or bases and then they'll be fine next year. But yeah,
they're going to have five wins this year. Rob. Let's be clear on something. This year
meets the commanders. Sorry. You, that said, let's be clear on something. This year,
the league hates the commanders. Oh, I know the team they hate the most and I did you
and then later did you see when their bias week 13 14 boys at 14. Yeah, December 8th.
I agree with Steven at five, but they're going to get all five of them before the buy. This is a
tough, tough schedule. This is the kind of schedule that if Washington wants to show the world
that there are a team to content with. This is the schedule that will do it. You look at what
they're coming out at Tampa Bay. They're only prime time game that isn't the league required
Thursday night game, which by the way is at Philly. Yeah, that's not. They've got Monday night
football in week three at Cincinnati. That's not going to be fun. Everything, all that's going to be
real fun. I think they've got four games that aren't new games. That shows you the faith the
league has, but I agree with five and it's all going to be before the buy. They're going to play
this. All right. Done. How many wins do you have the commanders at at six and a half?
Maybe daring six. Yeah, that's not very daring because I have them at seven. What did you say
about a limb last week? You're so that's not, that's how big it is. You're so not out on a limb.
You're holding the trunk. All right. Now we're into the NFC North. A.K. A.D. My
relative mission with the Detroit lions. So my favorite one is a continuation of a fact from last year
that happened to be true and this should tell you how much the league wants Detroit to succeed.
Jared golf is a top six scoring quarterback indoors and they only play three games out doors.
Here's your funer fact or more fun fact if you do it dramatically correct. They only have one
outdoor game until week 16. So they might have the division locked up and the top seed before
they even face the 49ers in week 17. They may already be resting starters before they get to their
third outdoor game. So if you're playing fantasy, don't rely on it. They're probably not going to be
playing in those playoff weeks. So the only major flaw that that team really had last year was
their past defense and they have overhauled the entire corner back room. So they should be trying
to prove it. They got younger talent in there. And for me, the big surprise, I'm expecting
a Jamison Williams finally fully healthy going into a year to lead the team in receiving touchdowns.
Yes, the team that has Sam Laporta, the team that has Aminera same brown, I'm expecting
Jamison Williams to have a bunch of touchdowns. So at 10 and a half, Rob, where do you have the Detroit
lines? That one outdoor game is that what could possibly be that day? The frozen
tundra of Lambo V. Right after Halloween. I am going to reluctantly
say nine who that was not what I was expecting done. It's the one I'm going to be daring on.
I thought you were daring on the last one. This is real daring. Okay. Okay, tell us.
He's not the last one. We'll see the coach. Don, let's go.
The coach. The team. And see if we go in better and better.
13 and they go to Super Bowl. There it is. Now they got close. They've been very, very close. They
couldn't have gotten any closer. They were within a score of San Francisco.
I didn't say they were in the Super Bowl. I'm just saying that's good. I don't know. We got
Steven. MCDC going to do the same. So I am piggybacking off of Don, but I'm going 12 wins,
but the same exact dot process. So you've got, you've got day 12 in the Super Bowl.
For the record, Mike said 13 before Don did and I had 13 last week. So
so we're all in agreement except Rob that the lions are going over. And I feel like there's almost
like a reverse jinx from Rob in that one. But you mentioned the frozen tundra. So let's go to
the green bay pack. Jordan love the frozen tundra of that. I was a button for that.
I was just making sure that I heard that. Jordan love will be the highest paid player in the NFL
and will not be a surprise to anyone expecting a run first offense this year.
He was way, way below average in the first half of the season, but then really put it
together from week nine on going from a 57% completion percentage to a 69 per cent completion
percentage after week eight. Now that was a lot of going shorter passes, more dink and dunk.
Leflur is a good coach, but they are also going to face an incredibly strong pass pro schedule.
So they had to shore up their db's. Even though they have giant year Alexander, they were
still getting beaten a lot of places last year. But they brought on Pro Bowl safeties. Their
defense is going to be better. But I think their offense takes a step back. I'm going to go ahead
and take a the lead on this one. Even though I think they're going to take a step back, I still have
them at 12 wins, despite a win total of nine and a half. Don, where do you have them?
You said lines nine and a half? Yes. I can say 11.
All right. Those are the top two and that division that year. Steven.
Who did it? Who does the the north face this year?
Rob. The NFC north faces the AFC East.
Okay. But that case, I got them at nine and eight. All right. So just below, Rob. Yeah.
You know how I like to look at the games, how they schedule them. They open, actually they don't
pay the whole AFC East. That's weird. They open at on the road in that
South Palo game. That's a night game. They don't have another prime time game until
Thanksgiving and only three of those games are not early games. However, after that,
they go for in or with that. They go for in a row in prime time because they go Thanksgiving
night, then the following Thursday night, then Sunday night, then Monday night.
I'm saying they win eight. I can't find it a ninth or more.
I'm just clarifying you said eight. That is correct. Okay. I don't believe in Jordan.
Yeah. I don't either, but I think that defense is going to wind up carrying them to a lot,
especially when they get to play teams like the Minnesota Vikings who are next.
Minnesota. Honestly, I might agrees with the eight. I genuinely think Minnesota may just
punt on the season. I'm not joking with JJ McCarthy having Maniscus surgery and being on
IR for the year to red shirt him as we used the term earlier. I think Minnesota might intentionally
try to lose and it's not really going to be in exaggeration since they only had seven wins,
which was an overachieving mark with losing Kirk's cousins and not having Justin Jefferson for a
number of games last year. But the craziest stat, they were losing after the first quarter in every
single game last year. Not even a tie. They were losing in the first quarter in every single game.
Now, if you want the positive though for fantasy, Justin Jefferson still average 22.1 points for
games without Kirk cousins. And Sam Darnell shouldn't be much worse. We'll probably be better
than some of the replacement level quarterback play last year. So I am still taking his over at
100 and a half receptions because they're still going to have to throw it with that garbage defense
even though they have good defensive coaching, but they are not going to be a good team. So with a
win total as six and a half, I think they're going to go under it five. Rob, what do you have
me? Minnesota has the buy in week six. Again, tough road row after that because that's a long
season. You don't have a week off from when I'm in Vegas. Now, the upside is, I think Detroit's
going to do well. And by the time they play in week 18, they're going to they're going to be fighting
for a spot. But they're going to be playing a team that might be playing to finish because they
want to rest their starters. I'm going to say nine. Okay. Don. Don, four is four. He's having some
Steven. Don, you are on my wavelength tonight because yeah, I think you're awesome. You
know what? I think it's going to be crazy. Sam Donald is actually going to have a great season
and they're going to be that team that is in every game, but only win four or five games. I'm
going to go for. All right. So, uh, Don and Steven both go half of our resident Vikings fan
who says eight, I only have him at five. Rob, you have more than that. So you are on the actual limb
there. I'm okay. Now, the note, I the first one I have for Chicago feel free to interact if you
wish. Repeat after me. I will not fall for the hard knocks in social media bump. I will not
fall to the hard knocks and social media bump because as many electric plays as Caleb Williams
has on social, I have gone through the game film. He has a lot more plays looking like a rookie
and making mistakes. What was that, Steven? Well, you, it was an up for a minute. When you freeze and
you come back, the vocal just catches up to you. Okay. So, I said, even though there's a lot of
electric plays on social media and within the editing of hard knocks, he has a lot of plays where
he's making rookie mistakes or trying to do too much as rookies often do. They won seven games
last year while facing a wildly easy defensive schedule and their 2024 is going to be facing
lesser offences and tougher defenses. Something that will actually play against them if their
defense doesn't wind up carrying a number of games. But my favorite nugget about the Chicago Bears,
if you want to be anywhere, when the Seattle Seahawks players found out that Shane Waldron was
going to Chicago while being asked in pressers, the players were quoted as thrilled that Shane
Waldron was no longer in Seattle and wish Chicago good luck. Most notably JSN going, ooh, good luck to them.
Wait, are we live? Can we edit that? So, Seahawks players not playing the karma game in there.
So, Chicago, whether it be the bump or what people expect, have an expected wind total at nine and a
half, I have them just under at nine. Rob, where do you have them? They've got a weird
October. Is they're going to host Carolina? They're going to host Jackson. No. Then they're on the
buy, but then they go to Washington, then go to Arizona and then come home to New England.
That's a little cookie for me, because they're doing a lot of home and then heading west,
because they do it again when they host Minnesota, then they go to Detroit and then they go to San
Francisco and then they go back to Minnesota. I'm going to say seven, but I don't feel good about it.
Because I'm not falling for the rope. I like, I love the stories and hard knocks. I like this
team. They've got some great strong kids on this team. I'm Steven. Oh, the good old hard knocks.
I love watching it happen. I saw it with the dolphins. I saw it with the jet. Oh, that
Chris is coming and they will win six games and then everyone can kind of ease off the gas pedal
for Caleb Williams. Done. Gearing on this one, too. No, they're going to win. They're going to win
eight, one tie and eight losses. So I'm in there. Who's the tie done?
That's a surprise coming up. Oh, I'm kidding. That's you popping out.
That's him not looking at the schedule. He's like, then what's going on? I'm giving him credit
for that because it did pop through. That's all I'm saying. He just spit in a wheel on the other side
that we gave me. All right. So Mike actually ruins our pattern because we had nine, eight, seven,
six and then he went for, but I know that's just more of a Viking fan bias. All right. The NFC
snuff. Oh, my other division. Can we actually won the division last year? Yeah, but that
beeping sound through them backing into it. Did you read my story? No, I did not. I don't have
they only had one win against top half teams. They literally won a division just beating up
on lower people. And the funny thing is their biggest loss mentioned earlier is probably Dave
Canalis, who seems to be a quarterback whisperer in every sense of the word, who is now charged with
making Bryce Young not look like a bus. I still think Baker is okay. But Canalis going to
Carolina takes their easiest games and makes it more difficult. And when you replace him with Liam Cohen,
who has shown success at the college level, what has literally never called plays in the NFL,
peaking as a wide receiver coach assistant during the Los Angeles ram Super Bowl run.
I just don't see any hope here, but this division is so bad. I still think they can get to eight wins
with a win total of seven and a half. Steven. Hey, baby bucks seven and a half where you got them.
I got them as the nine win team just just because of that division alone. And they'll sneak out
a couple of games, but yeah, I have them at nine. There's not too much of a turnover where it's like,
okay, they're going to drop off or whatever. They're just kind of going to flow eight nine wins.
Yeah, right in the middle. Don. You and Pam, but you said Tampa, it's seven and a half.
I'll do seven. Okay, Rob. I'm going to say 10 because of the prettiest girl in ugly
party in this division. Um, there. They're going to split with New Orleans. They're going to sweep
the Falcons. Like, they're last five games. They could go forward. I think it
could go five and one in their last six games because the only game in those last six that I think
they could, they could potentially and realistically lose is when they come here three days before
Christmas because I honestly believe that at that point in the season, Dallas is going to be fighting
for a playoff spot because of the way that division looks and they're going to look like gang
busters in those last six games and then the wheels are going to fall off when they get to the playoffs.
And that is that is not my Tampa Bay bias. That is literally as I'm looking at this. They're
hope they're at Carolina, which we hope I think we all agree that team's not going to be fun to
watch this year. They're going to be hosting the ratings. Then at Dallas, then hosting Carolina
and hosting New Orleans. Speaking of New Orleans, they're hope fell off a cliff along with Ryan
Ramchecks Health. Carr had zero time to operate, but the team adjusted in the second half to
try to go to quicker passes, getting in in the easier rhythm. And they actually wound up doing
pretty well and coming out well ahead, not as well as I expected, but Ramchecks. So in 2023, they had
the easiest schedule and injury luck. Those are the only reasons that they got dragged to a winning
season. The adjusting the short passes improved the game control over anything else so that the
defense didn't get scorched. Chris Alave was disappointing, but they won't score enough to win
in 2024. So even at seven and a half, that's a tough number. Don, where do you have them?
Can you hear me again? The Saints. No one. I'm going to have to say six wins for Don. Steven.
What is their their line at? Seven and a half. Okay. I'm going to do the over. I'm going to give
him eight. I think Spencer Ratler is going to be surprising in the back half of the season. I just
can feel it. There's things for the Ratler replacing Derrick Car. It injury or he gets Bench to whatever
it's going to be a random thing, but it's going to be a really nice show. But they're always what
there that team though that wins random games. So they might not be the best, but they're going to win
eight, not win the division, but people will give it a go. Well, they were fun to watch for a little
bit of time, even though no one knows what's going on. Rob. They're going to come out strong. They're
going to win their first two games. They're going to be Carolina because they're hosting them.
If there's a game that you circle because it's going, it no matter what the line is, no matter
what stats you throw at them, you circle week two because if there's one team that New Orleans
feels like they have to beat when they play them, it's Dallas. That is a game that I will be
circling and I will be watching because both of these teams play up to each other. And I also feel like
it's a rivalry game that only us in the area know correct. Like I would give you a hundred
really. Yeah. As much as Dallas, you want to beat Washington, you want to beat because those
are that to me is the one division where every game is a rivalry game. Both East and both conferences
because there's so much history between those teams. However, New Orleans is that team because
for those of you that don't know, we have a lot of people in this area that the Saints,
they travel to Dallas well because they have a lot of fans here. I know a bunch of them.
However, when total, I'm taking seven.
I'm so glad I saved after those first two, it's going to do this for them.
Yeah. I'm so glad I saved that because you and I are bullet at seven.
So we're both have it barely under Stevens, the only one that has them over, but we're all kind of
grouped at six, seven, eight. So, Don's beef from earlier, the Atlanta Falcons.
They are trying to strike now having the wildly easiest schedule based on offensive defensive
expectations and analytics. It is win now, possibly only getting one shot with Kirk Cousins,
even though he's coming back from the Achilles. But as we mentioned on last week's episode,
he's a bit more of a body thrower. It may not affect him as much, but even if it doesn't work out,
I think Penex can get the job done, especially with these players. Because last year,
all they had was a pile of trash behind the line. I'm still trying to wrap my mind around the
fact that they ran Desmond Ritter out 15 times when Tyler Heinecky was a tailor. I think it was
available, but it's now or never for Drake London and Kyle Pitt who have both failed to take off.
Even though the fun stat is that Kyle Pitt has the third most tight end receiving yards before the
age of 24, only beaten by Jason Whitten and Rob Grunkowski. So he's probably going to be able to
get utilized because tight ends tend to get elevated by Kirk Cousins. So I'm looking for a lot of
overs on Kyle Pitt's because he's numbers have been deflated over the last two years. So at a
windowed expectation of nine and a half, Steven, where do you have them? I have them right at eight.
I think they're going to be good, but still fresh with new coach. There's going to be that uncertainty
with the fan base, put an extra pressure on the quarterback situation. That's going to be flipping
around with the eight win situation. I don't have them in the division, but they're going to be
flirting with it. They could go down to actually, I think that first game between Tampa and Atlanta,
that's going to call the division because by the end of it, they'll have it all sorted out,
and it will be like a half game difference or something. Rob.
They play New Orleans in a week four and Tampa Bay in a week, like they run the entire division
for five and six. They're hosting New Orleans or hosting Tampa Bay, they're at Carolina.
I think they'll sting New Orleans because New Orleans is going to have a little bit of hangover,
even though it's two weeks later after the Dallas game. I've got them at six wins.
Just beat those of these to help. Now you're good.
The faith forward cursed this year. Five.
Oh, because you've been to the stadium. And her favorite player are for the chiefs.
Interestingly enough, if you took Rob and Don's numbers and combined them,
they would still be less than my prediction of 12.
Woo! I think Atlanta wipes the division except for one game and that would be on the road at New Orleans.
I think they sweep Tampa, they sweep Carolina, they split with New Orleans, and they take advantage
of that soft schedule because they have loaded up on talent. Rahim Morris has a year under his belt.
They have hope. I think they're going to win 12.
Now, you can't win 12 without a beat, I'm sorry.
I said, God bless you, sir. Yeah, this limb is looking real, shake.
Not as shaky as Carolina's everything.
I don't, I don't think Canales can do enough to truly save Bryce on, especially in the first year.
Maybe year two, he starts to look like a competent quarterback, but right now he's just the younger
version of what 20 was before McDaniel fixed him.
I just, the only thing that they did that could really help him outside of Canales is bringing
Deante Johnson, who is a wildly underrated receiver. But you can't fix in a year, Bryce
young being bottom five in accuracy, yards per attempt in every other bad statistic, because he was right
there with DAC in the bottom of the 48. But the interesting season long is I'm looking at
their under more than anything else because I'm expecting them to have the worst record in the NFL
for the third year in a row. So with a win total of five and a half, I told you that I expect
them to be under at five. Rob, where do you have them?
My pension for looking at the schedule. They're playing your giants overseas.
They literally have no, they're not even playing a Thursday night game this year.
That's how little faith the league has in this team. And last I knew everybody had to play on Thursday night.
There have been interesting adjustments with the NFL scheduling. I have a big one on the next
team. But they have also removed certain parameters requiring teams and certain gaps.
And that is part of them having the Christmas games. That's the Wednesday games, the Friday
game to open the season. Well, the second game of opening the season in Brazil. So there's a lot of
that that went out the window with this schedule. They will get beat by the Raiders because they're on the
road. They might get a sting maybe late in the season. Their week 18 will be a snooze or added
Oanta. I cannot see this team. And I have family in Charlotte. I love my uncle. I love my cousin.
I don't see this team when in more than five games. I just don't. This is a tough schedule.
And dear God, it's going to be some bad football. It's going to be the end of the teaser.
Week five. They take on the bears. Five wins. Want to end the tie.
Gins the bears on week five. I just see all five. Five and a half. There you go.
They'll win five. The one tie against the bears. Week five. I mean, October six. And then
from there, then he leaves the rest. So there we go. 11. So you said they have five wins before
they win their first five. No, no, no, no. We're having total. Five wins total. One tie.
And then 11 losses. Okay, Steven. I just don't know how you guys aren't just letting them know
that they're going to win 12 games this year. It's the first worst of first. All the time.
Not being serious right now. I'm not. I definitely have them winning two games. Not 12.
Two. Just two. Yep. That sounds about right. Okay. I mentioned earlier that I know which team
the NFL hates the most. This year. And if you followed the pattern, you know which team I'm
going to talk about, but I want to say this first part. The regular season for this team is 120 days
long. So from their first game to their last regular season game is 120 days. You heard me mention
about rest advantage before. Rest advantage would be positive if they have a by week and the other
team does not. So they get an extra week to rest up and prepare. Negative rest advantage would be
the team on the opposite side. This team we're talking about has a negative 37 day rest disadvantage
in 120 days. That means they are at a disadvantage at least 31% of their time. And that's before
you take into account that last year was the first year that the San Francisco 49ers stayed healthy.
And you and plus you put the international piece of it, too. Oh, yeah. So they are going to be
traveling massive yardage and they are playing so many games at a disadvantage in rest and preparation.
IU cast the headlines, but Trent Williams is the real problem. Debo Samuel posted yesterday,
the biggest note about why Trent Williams is important. In 683 dropbacks, the man allowed
one sack. Brandon, I used a great, great receiver, but if Brock Pertis already on his butt,
it don't matter. So to give you an idea, in the games last year, just last year, when Brock Pertis
had Trent Williams blocking for his blind side, he had 28 touchdowns and two interceptions.
In the games that he didn't, three touchdowns, nine interceptions.
Trent Williams, not being on this team, is going to hurt them. Now, I am very concerned about CMC
also getting hurt after his massive workload getting through a season last year, because that's been
a rarity for his career. Plus, you had the Matt Madden curse, if you believe in it,
I don't particularly, but heavy workloads do worry me. And with an expected win total of 11 and
a half, and me expecting them to struggle to this number, I still think they win the division
with 11 wins. So at 11 and a half wins, Steven, where you got the right, I'm going to
rise with you on that one. I just, I do think they break down those before the blast. I think they,
I think what happened to the dolphins last year happens more than that is this year. They just get
depleted by the end of the season, but they want to let it go. I want to clarify, I have them at 11,
and what I think is their peak. Okay, I am, if the number gets inflated in the certain fans,
be sure I am putting racks on the under for San Francisco's wins. Now, I want to save Rob on this
for a particular reason. So done 11 and a half. I'm going to go 10 at 10. So the reason I wanted
to save Rob is because I want to highlight it again, the best prediction we had all of last year
was Rob Irvin in the preseason, calling the Super Bowl matchup, which included the San Francisco 49ers.
You have been writing hard for the Niners for multiple years now at 11 and a half, where do you
have them? I would like to first self correct. I was talking international. I was talking about
Carolina. I didn't hear your predictions, so I thought you were still talking about Carolina.
This team will not make the Super Bowl this year. I don't know that they'll win the division,
but I've got him at eight wins. Eight. Yeah, I wanted to bump up another team in this
division to beat the Niners, but I just don't see it from anybody. They're a whole stretch
from Thanksgiving week on. You're at the frozen tundra. You're at Buffalo.
You could come out of that ointu. You're hosting Chicago in the late set. So you're giving
them the opportunity to be rested. You're against the Rams at home. That's Thursday night,
after playing Chicago three days, four days earlier, which could leave them banged up a little bit
as we talked about with that defense. Then you're at Joe Robby with the 10 day layoff,
maybe it's going to depend on which Miami you see is Miami fighting for a playoff spot or are
they resting their starters. Then you're hosting the Lions and then at Arizona. That is a
tough stretch outside of the Cardinals, but it's still in division. This team is not going to have
what I felt the cakewalk they had last year to get to where they were. This is going to be a
tough season and it's going to require a lot of perseverance from this team. And then you've also
got the week of thing of how to lean the other game everybody always circles and it's Dallas San Francisco.
But they've got them at home at least. So I was starting to transition saying I wanted to find a
team. I wanted to find a team to put over the Niners. I just can't because there's such massive holes
and there is no such larger hole this year than trying to replace all-time great Aaron Donald
anchoring the Rams defense. They have a expected win total of eight and a half and it shocks me.
Especially when you look at with cup and Nakua are both quality players, but they've never been
healthy at the same time. Stafford struggled and just hyper targeted whoever was healthy. And this year
looks no different with Nakua already dealing with injuries. They have an older, worried line.
Their depth is not great after Jamaica's Robinson who is a decent wide receiver three. And
especially with the news that McVey, who has always been a good play caller, is going to have his
RB1 returning punts. Iron Williams already doesn't stay healthy. They're going to also play 7
of the top 10 past defenses that's going to try and make them run heavy with an older line and a
running back who is returning punts. Yeah, that was a string. I'm not going to pick up that
because he wants it to have more touches. That was a strange logic to me because aren't the touches on
punts returns? Isn't that a separate stat? Well, I think he was using the term touches of just
getting the ball in his hands versus touches in the traditional sense, which is a reception or a carry.
And how much does the new punt rule play into that? There is no new punt rule. It's a kickoff.
Yeah, the kickoffs in the tire release effort deal. I like to see them do with punts too. Yeah,
well, if they can figure out a way to do that, I'm excited for the kickoff rule, but with a Los
Angeles Rams win total of eight and a half Rob, where do you have them? Definitely not over.
They could realistically, with a buy and week six, they could realistically go into the buy with
one win. You're at Detroit on Sunday night football. Then you're at Arizona.
You're hosting the 49ers. Then you're at Chicago in the early game. And then you're hosting green
bay. Like you said earlier, that's a lot of miles. They could conceivably have one win before the buy.
Now, they could come off the buy hosting Vegas and win. But it doesn't get much easier when you're
hosting Minnesota at Seattle hosting Miami at New England, which that could be a game that could
reach up and bite you because you're playing your hosting Miami on Monday night football. Then
going to New England for the early game, which we talk about that all the time on this show,
they could get six, but it ain't going to be pretty. And I like, yeah, I like this team.
Where do you have them? No. I have five. Five. Okay. Steven.
All right. Sorry. I don't want to mute myself. I have them at six wins as well.
Interestingly enough, we all have them at five, Don, or six, which is the rest of us. So
another team that I wanted to put up higher because I really like the Ryan grub hiring and bringing
his past heavy scheme from the University of Washington right down the road to the Seattle Seahawks.
I'm expecting huge strides for DK Metcalf and JSN Tyler Lockett getting older. I think he's going to be
more of an underneath guide when they need Kenneth Walker is finally healthy and he is an awesome
running back. Zach Sharberney is going to be a great pass catcher in that offense as well.
But with Seattle Seahawks first year without Pete Carroll and a win total of seven and a
half, I do like them improving and getting to eight, but that's where I have them capping. Steven.
Nine. I'm running with the nine. I think the change of I think the change of guards is actually
going to be better for some of these younger players that it's going to get going a little bit.
So I have them at nine. Nice. Dawn. I can take nine. Throb.
I think this team wins the division. They get 10 out of it.
Nice. So Rob did what I was hoping I could, but I couldn't bring myself to.
All right. Now the Arizona Cardinals.
I am actually surprised that they have a seven and a half win total.
But the true limb I go out for on them. I think Kyler Murray is going to be a top five quarterback
this year. If only because the defenses boot a baker and a whole lot of replacement level talent
and they also play the toughest schedule for defenses by a very large margin. The offenses are
not facing a lot of tough defenses outside of their division. But the defenses that the or the
offenses, the defense will face are very, very quality. One of the big things we have with the NFC
West is they're traveling coast to coast a lot this year. So I kind of think they're all going to be
depressed and they face six of the top 13 offenses just in the first eight games. Arizona's
offense. I think we'll click, but their defenses. What's that term you like to use Steven?
Well, you're muted. But cheeks. Thank you, sir. That's your vote. Sorry. I thought it was going
with the other one. The booty cheeks. No. With the what's today is in my neighborhood.
Got it. There we go. Oh, there you go. Yeah, but for those first eight games, I am looking at the
overs on every single one of them. So with a win total of seven and a half done, kick us off.
Where do you got the Arizona Cardinals finishing six six wins Steven? There are five
wouldn't team. I agree with you on Calamary. I think he's going to show out and be great, but it's
a five wouldn't team sitting there. Rob, this will be the Chicago white socks of the NFL. They get
three. They get three. And the worst game to watch the entire season will be the Arizona Cardinals
hosting the JTS Jets Jets Jets. It'll be worse than watching them host New England.
I think that'll actually be a fun game they won't win. I have just because of the offense.
We all have them under, but I have them barely under it. Seven wins. So I think their offense is
going to carry them further than it will have to, but the defense is going to let them down a lot of
weeks. So now that we've wrapped up our NFC, I want to do one last thing. Rob, you have the floor
because you're the one that nailed it last year. What's your Super Bowl matchup?
I would like to go last on that. I would like to take champions advantage.
JP is advantage. Totally acceptable. Dawn.
So I said, um Detroit. Yes, you did.
I'm going to be real daring. Jacksonville.
For the third year in a row. Yeah. Dawn defaults to Jacksonville. And he said, I love it. Here's my
favorite part of this. He said that Detroit will make the Super Bowl but not win. So are you calling
the Jacksonville Jaguars over the Detroit Lions in the Super Bowl? Now, when I'm cleaning the fifth
of that one. No, no, you're picking it up, bro. You got it. No, you missed it. You missed it. That was
his time. No, he said, they want to eight in the even instead of two. I used to see it. Yep.
Mr. Con, I don't like it. It's not trophy. I hope he does it. Where is the Super Bowl this year?
I'm still trying to wrap my mind around Jacksonville being the Super Bowl champion right now
because as we know, a certain company likes to give belts to champions. And I can see a reason that
that that doesn't happen. So Steven, who do you have in the Super Bowl in New Orleans?
Oh, oh, oh, who is my Super Bowl pick? Like yes. Oh, God. Maybe we're united the Super Bowl.
Who over who? I'm going to have Detroit coming out of the NFC. I really ride with Detroit.
Am I have Pittsburgh coming out of the NFC? But who wins? Pittsburgh.
All right. I heard over Detroit. Yes. Now, if you, since I am typing Rob, would this be an acceptable
level for you to take? I would like to hear yours first. I buy the logo this year.
Sorry. It's Super Bowl logo because they're in New Orleans. That's a good work in logo.
Share it. Pull it up. I have to do it. I'm not a different laptop. But while you talk while I'm doing that.
So I think this year is going to be really weird. I don't like the fact that I am right in line
with everybody else on the NFC, but we're all day 12 fans.
And I just can't get away from Baltimore. But I'm giving Detroit the win over Baltimore.
Detroit, what have to worry about Baltimore? Because the Marjecton is going to
Dactress Scott in the playoffs and lose in the first round. Oh, I don't think he will with an actual
functioning running game. You know, that's going to be so. I want to just say the jet, but I couldn't
pull the trigger with AA Ron. I'm just saying the jet's going to jet.
All right, Rob. This is another instance where I can't find a good size of the logo. I tried to
blow it up and start to get pizza-laden. But I can't share it with you at this time.
This is, I like this background on this logo, too. I think you guys are going to dig this.
Here you go.
Oh, yeah. It's a good look at the logo. Oh, no, it's, it's minor. It's the chiefs and the Seattle sea
chickens. So, everything. From an AFC standpoint, I am subscribing to the theory that you're the
champion until somebody tells you otherwise. And I don't think anybody in the AFC is going to tell
the chiefs otherwise this year. The NFC, and by the way, chiefs win, the NFC, I am going to apologize
to Don because I giggled earlier when he said the lions were going to the Super Bowl.
The more I'm looking at the NFC, it doesn't necessarily attest to the greatness of the lions.
Well, that's because no one in the NFC has any caps anymore. But it could be that more
prettiness girl, the ugly party thing again. I think they get there, but they're going to
lose to the chiefs just because the chiefs are the new patriots. Like, they're that team.
But here's what I like about it is we all have Detroit. We all went earlier, but we're now
all like, you know what? Even my question is Detroit, the pretty girl at the ugly party,
when they just are ugly, it's the city of Detroit. I mean, they're the ugliest party. They take off
the glasses and they're the attractive one. I'm not going to say the chiefs run rush out of
over them. They'll, they'll be competitive. But Kansas City is just that strong. It's
I'll say you guys know how much I love the Super Bowl. I'm still going to watch it,
but I don't see, I just don't see this going any other way. I just can't wait to see where we're
right, where we're wrong and get to football, football, every one of throwing MVP predictions.
I think we're already done. That press got to an MVP this year. Mark my words.
Hail, no. Yes, he's out there now. You back. I'm not hoping that's
lucky enough. No, no, no, because he's going to do this in spite of Jerry and he didn't get
he almost won it last year. He's going to win it this year. And then he's going to take his talent
elsewhere. I don't, I don't have an opinion on that because
stop for for the Cowboys when Emmett left and I hate the Cowboys. And I'm saying a lot
by saying DAX wouldn't MVP. All I know is Sundays are about to get so much better
because it's almost time boys. We had a college kickoff last weekend. We got a lot of college
this weekend. Right now, prepared tomorrow or Saturday. Just be prepared Saturday. Your phone will
get you. But you know what? And I'm going to say this and I'm not afraid to say it. I respect the fact
that both teams are coming out to play in week one. No, no, no. Yeah, neither one of these
teams is playing Sister Mary's College for the Blind. If Florida and it's Miami, let's go.
We're going to get beat by a thousand. I appreciate that we're just diving into the deep end of the
pool. I love it. I'm here for it. You know, I've got no expectations from this team this year.
None. Zero. Zilch. Not a no. If we can at least be competitive in the board of war
or we could at least be competitive in the last game of the year or four to state.
Outside of that. And I've got to start calling it the world biggest cocktail party.
But I'm just I grew up with that phrase. It. Well, we just lost on. He was waiting to say
Trevor Lawrence for MVP. He might he might have had something going on. I know that there was
something. I will be watching because especially in the SEC this year, the SEC is going to be
bonkers because we have 114 teams. 80% of them are going to be competitive and 80% of them
might be in the playoff. Yeah, this is and we got 12 teams in a playoff this year, which I'm here for
this is going to be a great year for football overall and I'm not afraid to say it.
Also wearing my wonderful shirt that Alex got me. I did see that they're selling
hats. I think it's on new era. It might be fanatics that have the old old school you up here.
Yeah, I had I had a here and there's actually a picture of me in the Fort Lauderdale news
from freshman year band camp and I'm wearing a shirt with that logo on it and I wore that shirt
until I physically could not wear it anymore because I love that logo because you've got the
gator that's just like got us snout in the air on the top and then you got the the state on the bottom.
I love that logo so much. But yeah, boys, it's almost time.
And I am
every year I'm like I don't remember the last time I was this excited for football. But last
offseason felt like it went like that. This year offseason felt like it took nine and a half years
and I don't know why. Yeah, I just took forever. But I'm ready and we're going to get
we're not going to have a break in hard knocks, which I'm very this hard knocks. This is the most
I've been excited for hard knocks even counting Miami being in it, which was great last year.
This is the most I've excited I've been for hard knocks and I can't remember the last time
because we're getting an entire division and I love it. And it's a division I think is going to be
probably the most intriguing to watch this year.
Based on what you gentlemen have brought to the to the to the conversation, which is why I
very much look forward to these two shows every year. Because number one, it gives Alex the shine
he deserves. Let's not get carried away there. But as much as I love football, you know, you talk
about how my pop culture knowledge is up there. You you challenge me every year when we talk
football, whether it's on this show, whether it's us hanging out at the house and, you know,
laughing at one week of fantasy and I still declare shenanigans. We have our fantasy draft next week
and we will be updating you week by week on how Alex and I do in our league. So keep an eye on that.
You have plus, you know, we've got the pickem league that we do every year. So be prepared for that.
I was waiting to throw that into the plugs. That Alex does such a great job keeping up with for us
because we'll do that. And then we've also got, you know, we'll have our March Madness next year.
And the whole things. And oh, we're almost back, boys. And I'm ready.
Steven, what do you want to plug before we go? I want to plug the magic of Amazon kitchen
finds, uh, cheese grater is intact. I got a steamer. Everything's good. Okay. I'm plugging that.
And that's a lot of doing new challenge when it comes to cheeses because there's the way I want to
say it's lunchboxes website has a cheese grater that has shredders had on the top of it.
Oh, yeah. Well, I just hope it was on basics that this is the little crank thing.
My, I think Jen got the one that's that's the shirt that goes this way. That's got the little
Arctic piece that you put everything in and it, it does everything right. I think it's cool.
God was technology. All right. Over there.
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