The Clubhouse Podcast

iTunes Exclusive Episode Their Finest

January 20, 2019 Season 7, Episode 136

Rob and Don review the World War II film Their Finest, starring Gemma Arterton and Sam Claflin. The film follows a screenwriter brought in to add a female perspective to a propaganda film about twins who rescue soldiers at Dunkirk. While both hosts praised the writing, performances, historical detail, and blend of drama with British humor, Don felt the two-hour runtime dragged and could have been trimmed by about 20 minutes.

About this episode

Key takeaways

  • The film effectively blends serious World War II subject matter with British comedy without becoming too heavy
  • Strong writing elevates comedic moments that could have been handled differently in less capable hands
  • The behind-the-scenes filmmaking details, including practical effects and set design, add charm and historical interest
  • While performances are solid and the heart story resonates, the pacing feels slow despite good individual elements

Q&A

How long is Their Finest?

The film runs just under two hours, at one hour 57 minutes according to the hosts.

What is the basic plot?

Catherine Cole, a screenwriter, is brought in to add a female perspective to a Ministry of Information film about twins who rescue soldiers from Dunkirk, but the production becomes complicated with script changes and casting shifts.

What tone does the film strike?

It balances dramatic elements about wartime Britain with British comedy and humor, maintaining lightheartedness without becoming overly heavy.

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Green's Empire member and or members. If you are hearing the sound of my voice it means the following things have happened for you in this life. At least once in your lifetime you have listened to the Clubhouse podcast live every Sunday night 7 Eastern for Pacific, your one-stop shop for all things pop culture.

But it also means you subscribe to that show on your favorite podcasting out because it is time for another... The 278th of one of these things. We just keep moving man, we gotta keep moving.

My name is Rob. I'm the executive producer of the Clubhouse podcast and I tried to write a script once and I never got finished. But am I trying again?

You don't know. But I'm not alone for this particular episode joining me across the desk as he tends to do from time to time. Is a man that always gives it his best.

You may know him as fondong though but his mom and even don't want to call him Don Ford. Welcome sir. I try to.

But you always give it your best. Okay. Whatever we do one of these things it is to review something this particular episode is no exception.

Brand new film coming your way from director Lone Shurfig, I'm probably completely screwing that up. But it is called their finest. Well, before we start this whole thing, yes sir.

You ready to sing? I'm ready. I think Ashley Holland, the whole crew there.

We love them. Yes friends. They give us the chance to see films before they come out so we can review them for you.

Which we're going to do right now. This film stars Gemma Atterton, I'm sorry Gemma Atterton, Sam Claplin, Bill Nahi Jack Houston, Paul Ritter, Rachel Sterling, Richard E. Grant and I'm host of other people.

Next place, during World War II, a British World War II before 1940, right before America got it. Yeah, but still Britain's in there. Yeah.

Where morale and Britain not that great. I mean, if you were getting bombs dropped on your houses every night, you'd probably be in our pretty rough mood too. So the Ministry of Information Film Division was responsible for helping make films that lift up the people, give them faith in the empire and things of that nature.

Like propaganda in a way. Kind of sort. Kind of sort.

Kind of sort. But like they always had those old announcements before the movies and the little, you know, and the news reals that they want to get exactly. So Catherine Cole played by the Gemma Atterton is called into help with the female point of you on a film that's being written about the story of a set of twins that she goes to interview who go to Dunkirk and rescue a bunch of soldiers.

Does not quite go in the way that a normal film should go. So things get embellished a little bit. And then from there on, we go into the making of the film with many scripts being changed on the fly, actors coming and going and plus their personalized and how they're affected as well.

This runs right at two hours down to be said, yeah, when I was just 57, two hours. I really enjoyed this film a lot more than I thought I would. It's not.

I know I really don't even know how to classify this film because it's got kind of a throwback feel to it from its storytelling aspect, but, but it's also not completely old school. If that makes any sense. Oh, no, not at all.

I, I, well, you got to my written video, www.theclabasplicas.com, that's all I'm saying. I put on there. If you like that kind of British comedy, you will like this because, yes, it's about a serious subject.

And yes, it's a world war, too, and there are some dark moments in this film. Absolutely. But there's a good mix of some good British comedy add-in into this film.

I agree with you, but I don't know that I would say fans of British comedy would enjoy this because it's not really a British comedy, but it's a dromedy. It's a well. Yeah, you would say that, but it's that still British style humor, I thought.

It kind of remind me of how the little quirks and little comments were made in people laugh, kind of like in the App Fab movies or in App Fab shows, and people who kind of like that stuff, I think we'll like the comedy mix and this now is there too much comedy? No, I think there's a good point of seriousness in comedy and dealing with the issues of the day. I didn't see it the way you saw it, but I do respect your opinion, and yeah, that's definitely yours.

I just saw it as a real, it was a dramatic film, loosely based in true events, that it had a good feel to it. Like you felt what the characters were feeling, I thought it was conveyed very, very well. I'll give you that, but I won't say feel good movie, this is not a film.

Now I'd say it was a feel good movie, if there are good feelings to it, yes. I do like how it shows the way some of the things they used to do, how they had to make the films, you know, where it's just kind of like, oh, here's a little boat that's a model and we're going to blow it up basically, blow it on a sink, and then the plane flying in the sky is actually a little six inch plane, you know, I'm going to do it stuff for more perspective, yeah, I had a lot of fun with this, and this was an interesting case that he for me, because we talked a lot about on this show, what we call the watch gauge. Okay, what was it?

I was interested. Well, that's what we're getting to. Okay, I can't give you one, oh no, because my watch broke on my way to the theater, told you, and you were sitting next to me, so I didn't want to do it that way, I mean, this was, I wanted this to turn to a case that could have brought this watch for an hour of, you know, with me without a watch, first of all, me without a watch period is never a good idea.

I'm very time conscious. I figured that, yeah, I found that out, but it didn't bother me as much as I thought it would. I was kind of okay by not looking at my watch, I kind of focused more.

Does that mean I'm going to do that again? No, it's not. No, question.

Yeah, what if this situation happened and it was a malloc film? It would be a totally different story. You'll be just going nuts.

I will not. I'll let you see that question on the grounds of what we call the fifth amendment to our constitution. Okay.

That says I have the right to not say anything that may incriminate me at a later date. Okay. All right.

But I really enjoyed this film, and it's, I know you said in your written review that it kind of dragged for you. Well, it didn't for me. And that's kind of weird that we're as opposite, especially on a pacing as we are.

Well, don't get me wrong. There's a lot in this film I like. The idea like the mix of serious and comedy, and I love the historical aspect of this.

This show Britain in that time of 1940. Oh, yeah. The scenery, the sets.

It showed bombing every night and the building shaking and people just still typing away. They look up it still and you're okay. They still live, okay.

I'll just keep going with all my vibe, you know, I kind of think. So there's a lot of good aspects in this film. I like the whole mix, but for me, for some reason, it dragged for me.

This is two hours. It is. It's all in two.

And for me, it felt like the two hours. And I honestly thought there was probably maybe 20 minutes that could have got cut out of this. And I honestly say just that when it comes down to the pot in a way, it's very, very simplistic.

At the basic core, the basic story line is basic, but, you know, it's not going to be the, you know, mind game, think, you know, you have to figure this out and watch the movie film kind of film, but for me, for some reason, it just felt like it dragged and it was too long. That's fair. I just, I really enjoyed watching this film.

Like, it's a lot I didn't enjoy too. It's, I mean, the performances are about to expect nothing, yeah, I'll build nighies going on. I mean, but there's nothing in this film that just floored me just because I know what to expect from most of this cast.

There's a great cameo about halfway through, and I'm not going to say who it is, but when the cameo happens, it's a nice, it's kind of a nice palette cleanser for what's going on. And there's a really good heart story to this as well. I mean, there's your head stories and your heart stories.

And the heart story of this, if you get me on a heart story, then you've got me. And this film really did have a really good heart story for me too, as you go through, I mean, I love how they show, like I get said before, when there's one scene where they're making it look like the invasion of the beach, and it's just painted on a glass that they've gotten front of the camera and they're like, can somebody get him out of Dunkirk, please? That's in the trailer, so we're not really nothing away there.

But it's just, this was a lot of fun, and it, it had potential to get heavy, but it never really, really got heavy. There was some, there was some prints, or was just like, wow, but it never got to a point where it just kind of completely brought me down, which I really, really liked, because there's a lot of that. I think, and I think what brought that up was the little mix of comedy.

Absolutely. Yes. Yes.

And there's some great comedic moments that are taken from moments that might not have been as humorous if the script wasn't written as well as it was, as that makes me sense to you. Yes. The writing was good, where the comedy really enhanced, is what you want to say.

Or you got to laugh at things that are like, man, this could have been written and gone completely the other way, but the way it's written, I can laugh at this, because it's a light moment. Yes. And I still to this day, I mean, I can type pretty well, I can't, but go ahead, but taking typing in the seventh grade was one of the best decisions I've ever made, but I still go to this day and odd by people that can use typewriters without a bunch of white out.

The old typewriter. Especially those. Because you can jam those up really easily if you type too fast, okay, because the way those work is they were net, the newer ones were on like a little sphere that had all the stuff on it, so it's just one thing hitting the paper.

These were individual keys, yeah, yeah, I respect anybody that can do it. My mom has one of them still. You know, Tom Hanks collects those.

My mom has one male, so they'll sell them. So you never know. You never know, but I just, I really liked the feel of this film.

I really, really dug it. It's not the best film I've seen this year. Oh, my God.

But it's a film that I think should get a lot more love than it may. I think as many people, I would hope with this film gets a really good, wide release. So people have a chance to go see this film and maybe it has a second life if it doesn't when it goes to other formats.

I will say, well, at the screening, we're at, listening to people in their walking out and the other thing that you tend to do, yeah, there's people who, you know, ask what do you think? What do you think? That's their job.

And most of everybody said that they liked it. Okay. It was good.

It was good. But it was good. It was good.

It's just, I thought, too long. That's fair. That's my big, big, big, big, big.

That's fair. Acting support sets good, storyline, basic, storylines, good, mix of emotion, comment. But it's just for me, it seemed too long.

Anything else you want to say if we put some ratings on this thing? No, I think we're good. All right.

The way we give you the final analysis on this show, we don't give you thumbs up, thumbs down, we don't give you letter grades, we don't give you little boats, nothing like that, typewriter. Nothing like that. We're going to ask up to two questions.

Question number one is, would you see this film again if the answer is no, then we're done here. But if the answer is yes, it's going to turn into how far would you be willing to go to see it again. And the spectrum works from best to worst.

All priced at the theater, twilight, matinee, early morning, second run at the dollar theater, leaving the house to go get it from red box, streaming it on Netflix, waiting for it on cable. Would you see this film again? I would.

How far you want to go? I do cable. So just barely on that side of the fence.

Yeah, but maybe no, I'm going to say no, but I would say maybe cable almost red box. Okay, so let me read Netflix or you're sitting right there. Yeah, it kept Netflix and cable.

But I had to choose one cable, but maybe Netflix if it's on. I would see this again, but I think I would go a little bit higher than you. I'd sit at a red box level.

I think it's worth leaving the house to go get a copy of. But I really hope people go get and see this film because we got a lot of stuff out there that's really, really heavy right now. And this has a little bit of, like I said earlier, it's got a little bit of weight to it.

But it's got a lightheartedness that I find refreshing with everything that we've got going on right now. Not only in entertainment, but otherwise it is, it is, it is. They're finest.

Where are we in this? Ready? All right.

We're going to keep on doing until they tell us to stop. So I get a season to say, I'm just saying, yeah, we love them guys. Because we're so happy that they're part of our clubhouse podcast family and give us the opportunity to see films early so we can tell the empire all about them so they can make the best decisions possible for their entertainment dollars.

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