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The following is a sooner orgator production.
The following is a sooner orgator production.
The following is a sooner orgator production.
The following is a sooner orgator production.
The following is a sooner orgator production.
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My name is Rob, I'm the executive producer of the Clubhouse podcast.
And I'm very much looking forward to hearing some of the opinions in this particular episode.
But because that would also mean I'm not alone.
Because then that would be really weird.
Joining me across the desk is my co-host.
And a man who is a fan of history.
And everything that it entails.
See his chat.
Welcome sir.
And a fan of this song.
That's a good song.
Also joining us is the official fact checker of this show.
And a man who's going to be supplying a lot of knowledge in this episode.
See what I did there.
Very nice.
You may know him as fun, don't go, but it's my name.
I'm Don Ford.
I'm going to call him Don Ford.
Welcome sir.
Thanks for having me.
Good knowledge.
You want some canology.
No.
That's what I said.
Isn't that a Italian dessert?
Maybe.
Close.
Take the canology.
No.
Whatever we do, one of these things, it is to review something.
And this is no different.
Today, or tonight, we're not questioning when you listen to this thing.
We are going to be, or Don is, anyway.
Maybe reviewing the brand new film from Stephen Hopkins.
A word winner.
Stephen Hopkins.
He's what made it worse.
You would know him from things like he's got a lot of house of lives.
California, Cation, shameless.
In plain sight in a couple of episodes there.
His latest.
Also, Chad, you'll be interested that he directed the life and death of Peter sellers.
Now, he also directed that lost in space remake.
Do you see that?
And predator too.
His latest film is called Race.
Sorry.
Stephen James.
Jason Sudakis.
Eli Gorshinis.
Banton.
Clarice Van Hooten.
Jeremy Irons.
William Hurt.
Amongst others.
It is the story of Jesse Owens.
We all know as an elliptic tracking field hero.
American.
As he is.
Basically put kind of in a.
In the national and international spotlight in the 1936 Olympics.
At the height of some very, very bad things going on in the world.
Yeah.
That's what we're talking about.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And we had first half to think Julie and everybody at Marock for inviting us to this thing.
Thank you so much.
We were such a fan of those guys.
Yeah.
Marocker.
Wonderful.
Julie.
We were sorry.
The Chad and I couldn't be there.
We kind of had a divide and conquer the night a little bit.
But thank you for inviting us.
And thank you so much.
Yeah.
Thank you for the invite.
Let me attend this thing.
Julie.
So.
Where do you want to start with the acting?
Let me start with the plot.
Let me start with that with the look first.
The look was incredible.
I really loved the shots in Berlin during the Olympics.
I thought it showed very historically correct Berlin.
How much of the film takes place there though?
Does this is his whole story?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
In Berlin itself in that the Olympics and stuff.
I'd say at least a third of the film.
Yeah.
I mean it.
This Olympics are his big thing when it came down to it.
Oh yeah.
So I mean in Berlin probably about the you know basically almost the last through to the
film.
There were in went back and forth like when they're trying to deal with the American going
to little Olympics or not and stuff like that.
There were some shots in Berlin there.
There was also a possibility of a boycott.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Hitler and everything else.
And of course they didn't know what was going to happen.
But what did happen of course, which just retails.
But the look was very good especially in Berlin.
It was really, really impressed on that aspect there.
Very historical correct even back in the times when they're back in Ohio there.
Like going to college and stuff at the university there being a buck eye.
The neighborhoods where he grew up and stuff like that really showed the time period very
very well.
I was really impressed with the look of the film overall from start to finish.
But I just can't say how much I was in love with the Berlin show.
Now obviously they had to do some CG work to make it look more like it was back then.
How did that didn't was the CG?
I walk here did it work at the studio.
The film we just saw about the guy with the Texas long horns and stuff like that.
Myos American.
Yeah.
Just like that when he walked into the stadium.
Really very.
Yeah.
Because it showed him walking into the Olympic Stadium full all around.
You know.
I told him that where they did the track and filled in Berlin.
So they pulled that off very, very well.
But seeing these buildings like what the swastik has and stuff.
But time period just reminds you of seeing that footage back then from.
They see from the news rails.
It really was very historically correct and stuff like that.
Very, very impressive.
So nothing kind of took you out of the story.
It kept you engaged.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I mean I was really impressed.
Now to the acting.
Overall the acting was very good.
Very good.
Well it's just not even very lead.
Let's start with Stephen Jones playing Jesse Owen.
I'm going to get him from.
Really.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Of course.
Yeah.
My shout out which I put in my written review at WWW dot the clubhouse podcast.com.
That is our website.
It's the greatest.
The greatest of the day.
Yeah.
You know I'm a huge fan of.
Which I'm going to tie into the pot in a little bit.
He did very good on that because he was serious when he needed to be.
But he added some good comedy spots here there through the film.
Which is a little different.
Yes.
So he could do the comedy.
But then push the comedy.
It wasn't obnoxious.
But there's some great points where he added the comedy.
Which helped to the film.
And I'm so glad to see him doing as well as he is because he is really.
He's really a great actor.
He's got really good timing with things.
Yeah.
He's going to see him do something like this.
But the search is like.
Yeah.
When there's some real serious scenes, he hit it.
He hit it.
Not.
You went think of as a guy from SNL.
You know.
Very.
Very.
So he gets my big shout out on that.
The rest of the cast, you know,
It's incredible.
Where'd be you like Ori.
Shinise Ben, who plays Jesse Owen's wife, Ruth, and stuff.
And so I had no issues with the acting except for one part in that.
Believe it or not.
Which is that's why I want to hold off to this to the end of the act.
Okay.
Okay.
Stuff on James.
Really.
Yeah.
It's kind of weird.
It's a double edged sword.
Because he did incredible job as Owens.
The tracks, the scenes where he's running and stuff.
And just kicking it out on the track field there.
Incredible.
He did great as the athlete.
But the thing is they put him into three different whites I thought.
Or possibly four.
And one was the athlete.
The next one was just the normal Owens.
The Owens what the good sense of humor.
But the one that turned me off was you didn't really see in history.
Which I think they added to this film on the liberty was him with the chip on the shoulder.
Very much.
So you had the shoulder.
Owens the athlete.
Owens the man.
Owens the activist.
Yes.
Okay.
Okay.
Yeah.
I would say activist.
But you know, there were people who say in hate don't go.
Because there's racial issues here in America.
And when they're when they're having a big issue in Germany.
We have problems here.
Don't go.
So the NWL.
I NWACP were Sam.
Please don't go.
Please boycott to make a statement.
I think the race issue was put in there.
When it didn't need to be.
Or maybe it was highlighted too much.
I thought.
And that's where put the chip on a shoulder where.
One woman.
He's this guy with the chip on a shoulder.
Then two lines later.
He's laughing.
You know, so that character the character did not work.
I thought that if they didn't put the chip on the shoulder.
I really will love this thing.
Or put too much emphasis on there's racial issues here.
You know, which really wasn't what the history is about when it came down to with Owens.
It's him, you know, breaking world records at a track meet.
He broke three world records and tied another one within 45 minutes at a track.
Yep.
You know, so they call it the greatest 45 minutes in sports.
You know, it should be more on that stuff.
I thought.
Which leads me to the plot.
Like I said, my issue was the racism stuff.
This film is about two hours and 15 minutes give or take.
It's a long one.
Yes.
You would have been watching.
You would have been looking out your watch.
Yeah.
I think you probably would have been at your watch.
Probably about 25 minutes in.
Somewhere around there, 20 25 minutes.
Did it need to be that long?
No.
And that's what I played.
There were some scenes where they really extended certain things that did not have to be extended.
And some something cut short.
I think you should emphasize other issues and cut.
Less cut certain scenes that were overextended.
I know what they were trying to do.
I know the points are trying to get across.
And there was a lot of points that you have to get across to do a movie like this.
Doing with the greatest 45 minutes in sports.
Doing with the boycott of the 36 Olympic.
Possibly.
Doing with Germany.
Doing with Hitler.
Doing with him at the Olympic games and winning the golden all that stuff.
And of course, the true story of the two Jewish athletes at the on on the 4 by 400 relay.
You know, beginning ex stuff because they were, you know, in Germany and they're Jewish, you know.
I mean, so there are so many big issues they needed to talk, which they got on.
But they made it too long because certain stuff was way extended.
Too much.
But the rest of stuff I think was it still was a very historically good thing.
But the emphasize certain things way too much.
Chad, any questions, so far.
I know that you are kind of taken by that drama that Angelina Jolie directed about a year and a half ago.
I'm broken.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And it was kind of was had it's feet in both world, both the athletic world and the end.
Yeah.
And I would say athletic world was probably only the first 15 minutes she could probably.
Right.
Right.
But I mean, you, how would you compare that film to this film?
Because I know you kind of enjoyed that film.
Yeah.
I didn't enjoy that film.
Unbroken.
But the thing was, yeah, it was two different worlds.
But it was mostly just to him being, you know, shot down on the water, then being a POW.
Right.
More than anything.
So it wasn't really two different worlds.
It only had the Olympics ten minutes in.
So it's kind of really tough comparing those two.
This thing really tried to spread the whole history of Owens.
But certain stuff they went on too long and certain stuff they cut out.
But they got the most important moments in though.
To their credit.
They really got, you know, the two Jewish athletes being cut because they're Jewish and Berlin.
In a four by one hundred relay.
It showed them dealing with the greatest 45 minutes stuff like that.
So overall still, I like to film overall.
Okay.
Yeah.
Anything else for you to final analysis?
Let's do it.
What we do to final analysis on this show is we're not going to give you thumbs up thumbs down.
We're not going to give you numbers.
We're not going to give you letter grades.
We're not going to give you stars.
Anything like that.
Our audience whom we affectionately refer to as the Empire.
They want us to go a little deeper.
So we're going to do that.
I'm going to ask down two questions.
Question number one is would you see this film again?
The answer is no.
We're done here.
The answer is yes.
And the follow-up question I'm going to ask him.
His out bar is he willing to go to watch this film.
First run the theater.
Twilight.
Matt and A.
Early morning on a weekend.
Second run.
Maybe red box.
Maybe Netflix.
Or just maybe TV.
Done.
Would you see this again?
Yes.
How far you want to go?
I love the film.
But being too long or you would have watched so many times.
I'm going to give it the second run.
So third theater.
Yeah.
Okay.
I'll give it to that.
Because I still love the look.
The acting is sedated.
But the chip on the shoulder and any extending to too many things.
I've got to give it the second run.
And then Hopkins directs race.
Yeah.
And again, we have to think Julie, everybody at Maroc,
for trying this to this thing.
Thank you so very much for the invite guys.
All right.
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