The Dallas International Film Festival 2016 Part 1

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Welcome sir.
We're back.
We're back.
What are we talking about?
We are live at the Dallas International Film Festival.
And members of the entire, they know me.
Goodbye.
I'll be back later.
Go do you, brother.
It is the Dallas International Film Festival, the 10th annual.
The Big X is on the door.
We are here live.
We will be here tonight.
We will be here next Friday night as well.
A lot going on, but before we get started, we start every show with corrections.
We have won from last night because I didn't do math.
Last night was season six, episode 35 and sequentially number 340.
We also want to thank everybody at Dallas Summer Musicals for having us out last night for
the high school musical awards.
I don't remember hitting the pillow.
Was it that much of a haze?
Well, this is our third year in a row.
Here at the Dallas International Film Festival, we want to thank everybody here.
That's a lot less.
Come out and do this thing and we're going to get right into it sir.
We're going to get it right into it right now because we already have guests.
Don's already been working.
He's like, you can't breathe.
You get to have guests.
But you know what?
If you're going to start with some guests, these are the guys to start with.
We got our media guides.
What?
About a month ago is somewhere in there.
I saw the first film we're going to talk about on the media guy.
That was like, I want these guys on the show.
And you know, not just because they're sitting here as far as they know.
But I was reading about this documentary and you know that I'm a big fan of the documentary.
Is that mine?
So joining us now, Chris Cutler, Sean Cole and they are producer and director respectively
of a documentary called a fat wreck.
And that's not about that sandwich that you get at Potbelly.
Although I'm a big fan of that.
But that thing is called the wreck.
It's not a fat wreck.
It makes me a fat wreck.
But that's it.
But gentlemen, welcome to the show.
Thanks for having us.
Where are you?
Where are you?
I know.
Oh, we found it.
I got to learn how to press buttons.
You knew how to press my buttons.
Oh, hello.
So, before I start, I want to start off with a correction.
Okay.
Did I say it wrong?
It's a clone.
Oh, this he didn't put the little thing on.
It makes it smell better.
Take your card like Carlito Colone from the butt to the bottle.
So we start by saying this is a family show.
Just so we can put it right.
I'm just saying we're going to put it in framework.
I, this is part of the deep.
I think you're going to use.
I used to think my mind was going to show rise.
That's where my mail was forwarded to.
But this film documentary, I'm going to let you explain.
Because it's your film, it's your baby.
I want you to be able to talk about it because I got questions.
Sure, no.
I would love to talk about it.
I love to talk and I love to talk about movie.
I don't know what I'm going to do after this is over.
I don't know what to talk about.
No topics.
I'm talking about it.
Okay.
What's going on?
A fat wreck is a documentary, feature link documentary about fat records.
A punk rock record label based out of San Francisco, California.
They had their zenith in the 90s during that.
Green Day, an after-right after Nirvana and Green Day and all that stuff happened.
They still exist and they have a certain ethics about them and it's more than just
a label and just a collection of bands and it's an important story.
And punk is such a strange thing because it's trying to categorize punk music is, you
have to ask the follow question, okay, what you are you talking.
It's a great question actually and it's one of the reasons I wanted to make the film because
so much has been done about punk, the nihilistic punk where it's kind of, I don't give
a crap about anything like gutter punk type stuff and then even in mid 80s and late 80s
you have the West Washington to see hardcore scene where there's a lot of violence and
a lot of violence and a punk rock and it was very male dominated aggressive kind of
thing and then after that I think what happened in the 90s is what you got the punk
punk phase and it's all these guys who were grew up in that and they liked the music
but they wanted to bring a technicality to it and also a different kind of ethics.
They didn't want to live at a van.
No, they didn't want to live at a van, but they're not going to beat people up and
they're not about hitting it, it's about, I like to call it neo-hypis.
Yeah, you know what, I could go there with you because you're looking at a couple of,
what I'm looking in the media guy at some of the bands that you name, the name checked
in here.
And bands that are still having certain level of relevance, no effects, rise against, you know,
you still hear those names around and what I really dig about the scene is punk in any
of its forms is still relevant, you know, because you see kids walking around and I think
a lot of it has to do with the beautiful thing called Rock Band or Guitar Hero where
they're here and songs by these bands from back in the day that they wouldn't get otherwise
and we're trying to keep it relevant.
Tony Hawk, Pro Skater.
I would say that was probably the first one that really kept the momentum going.
We're, we're playing the game and we're singing along to it the first time we played it
because we already knew this song, but a lot of kids picked up on that.
And the kids look at you like, how do you know this song?
It's like this song is older than you, okay?
So 88 minutes, is that kind of where you want it to be or was it, was there a lot of editing
where you're like, I got to keep it moving down?
No, it was actually opposite, we were stretching.
Not necessarily because we went in, I went in with an idea of an hour, 25 minutes or 20 minutes.
Okay, because I wanted to be short like a punk rock album.
I wanted to have that kind of pace.
Nice.
And so I wanted to be a reflection of what the label was and they did 35 minute albums
that they didn't do long albums, you know, but it, like, they were all kind, and that was a
philosophy that Fat Mike had, he wanted to, so when he first, first told me about the movie,
he was like, you should keep it short.
So I can't show those people that don't know Fat Mike.
Fat Mike is the lead singer and basis for no effects that people may know.
He also, I mean, geez, I'm, I'm part of the guy's, he, he get, I think, because he's got,
he's got a book that just came out from no effects, hepatitis, bath tub, and other stories.
He has a new, no effects album coming out later this year.
And he also has a musical called Home Street Home that will be, I think it's hitting Broadway,
it's not a fan.
So I was like, how did, and now he's got the movie, which is completely independent.
I made it completely independent of them.
They were the subject, but they had no creative control or any kind of influence.
But I think that's, that's a good thing in some cases.
I think they, I think they purposely did that and gave it a little bit of space to allow us to.
Because it gives, it gives the filmmaker an opportunity to kind of have that freedom, like,
do, you know, do me a favor, don't make me look too bad, but, you know, do, you do, you do,
you, and I think that's important, especially from a director standpoint.
He told me it's going to be boring, but in the very beginning he's like, uh, he was helpful,
but he's like, I'm, uh, passionately disinterested.
He said there's no story enough.
He, he, he, he said it was going, he's like, he's like, he didn't do, I don't mind you doing it.
You know, it's cool I'm about you doing it.
Uh, I don't think it's going to be good.
I don't think, not good, he thinks it's going to be boring.
Because there's not a lot of dramatic fallouts and things like that.
It's, it's not the kind of, it's not that story where things were destroyed and like, you know,
it's, it's, uh, it's, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a rarity in the music industry.
And that's where I think it's power.
And that gives you a lot more room to play with, too.
Right.
When, when he's like, just, not really interested, but if you want to do it, do it.
Right.
There's not going to be a lot of, no, I need you to take that out.
You know, he's like, whatever, you know.
And it's about Mike.
And if you read the, uh, plug in his book a lot, you're welcome, Mike.
But that, and the book is not family for him.
And the, and the, and the, and the, and the, and the, and the,
fabric, it's not family for him.
Yeah.
Uh, it's chosen family for him.
Now tonight is the, is the, okay.
So let's, okay, let's just do the plug in real quick.
So I, 10 30, is this the first showing?
Yeah, this is the world premiere, 10, 10 30 tonight.
We are tomorrow night at the Dallas International Film Festival at 7 15.
So I Angelica six tonight.
That's a big house.
And they, uh, they've treated us really well.
They, they gave us the, if you're in the, if you're in the band, the slot between the,
the big band and the, oh, we're the middle of the sweet spot.
Okay, so real quick, because I know you guys got to go shameless self promotion,
give me social media websites, everything.
Okay, website, everything's a fat wreck.
Okay, fat wreck.com Twitter, Twitter, fat wreck, fat wreck on Facebook.
Go to a fat wreck.com on your smartphone.
You can grab tickets.
You can watch a trailer and go to any of the social media's within,
without scrolling.
Just one click.
So, all right, gentlemen.
I, well, she had more time, but if you want to come by later,
we're going to be here for a while.
Yeah, yeah.
All the best to you tonight, gentlemen.
Thanks a lot for having us.
We'll see you soon.
We'll be here.
We're open.
All right.
Can't have jump in.
Well, we, a donner, we end a lull so we have Kevin on for a little while.
All right, can't come on.
Joining us right now, because there's going to be times that we're not going to have
guests on the show because that's just the way film festivals work.
Joining us for the first time in just a few weeks is Kevin Daniels from the movie
brothers and his broadcast partner will be here momentarily.
I am sure.
Kevin, how are you?
What up?
Good to see you, sir.
Same here, same here, man.
One of the things that we've learned from doing these festivals is you're going to have
lulls between guests.
So we have to have things to talk about.
So we're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're filler.
Okay, you're, you're, you know, we're going to put a picture of a guest there
and then you're going to sit there while they're gone.
I'm good with it.
So let's do some TV talk in the meantime.
Were you a fan of Matt TV back in the day?
I guess I was.
Well, apparently the CW is going to revive it for eight episodes coming real soon.
They said it's going to be a mix of old and new, um, because, you know,
what else is a little satsau doing?
You know, wow, nothing at all.
That's it.
So I, there's, they haven't given a lot of detail on it.
I don't know if this is an eight episode trial run or if this is just luck.
We'll give you eight episodes.
I'm assuming it's going to be a summer thing.
I don't know for sure, but that's my assumption.
But we're going to give you more information on that as it more.
It's chat.
How things going over there?
I'm just trying to grab all the social media stuff for the guys from a fat
wreck and put it on our on our Facebook feed.
Outstanding, um, interesting news from Charlie Cox this past week.
If you don't know who Charlie Cox is, he is currently playing Daredevil on Netflix.
As we, we've talked about in the show before, uh, the Netflix shows are all going to
intertwine as we have already seen with Jessica Jones, Luke Cage being mentioned in this season
of Daredevil.
But it's all going to culminate in the defenders.
All right.
Charlie Cox says that's going into production before the end of this year.
That's awesome.
So the defenders is going to hit us a lot quicker than we thought it would.
But isn't because we still have a Luke Cage to do, we still have iron fist to do.
Right.
So are we to assume that they're going to be doing iron fist and the defenders at the same time?
I don't know.
That seems uh, it seems like a little much, but you know, I have a lot of faith in
Netflix, you know, their ability to the juggle this.
One thing I think we can probably really look forward to is that it's going to be
very mature absolutely, so be very mature.
It's not going to be the Avengers is not going to be what you get used to
from Marvel Studios.
Netflix is going to come with the real.
And so it's going to be kind of down and dirty, I think.
I'm looking forward to it.
Did you see who's doing the soundtrack for?
We, you know, we were actually talking about Kevin.
I work together.
And we actually talked about that today.
The remaining members of a tribe called Quest will be handling the score.
4 Luke Cage.
And Chad Dope with that being.
Oh, I'm on 4 D.
You know, it is definitely a soundtrack you got to go purchase.
With the recent passing of five dog, you know, what better reason for these
the other two to kind of get together and do this thing.
Absolutely.
Well, since we're at the film festival and we just talked about a documentary,
let's talk about another one.
If you have not seen the documentary that Michael Rappaport directed about a tribe called Quest,
do yourself a solid as soon as you're done.
Listen into this show, find it, and watch it.
It is Michael Rappaport as a director.
Who knew?
No, nobody knew.
You know, he did, I don't know if you saw he did a 30 for 30 about Madison Square Garden.
It's called the Garden was Eden.
I miss it.
I don't know.
Very, very good.
Yeah.
He, he, he, he that's a really honest portrayal of what was going on in the 80s at Madison Square
Garden with the next and everything that was going on there.
A lot of great stuff from 30 for 30, another one.
And a lot of people give this guy grief.
I don't know why.
Kevin Connelly, who played E on entourage.
He did a 30 for 30 about the debacle of the guy that tried to buy the New York Islanders,
but it was a big con.
Right.
Great documentary.
Because he's a piece of it, and I will understand since he was a kid.
Who knew?
Yeah, I mean, and that's why I love 30 for 30.
The new one just premiered last night.
Yeah.
This magic moment about the penny hardaway shack years in Orlando.
Right.
Right.
So I've got that on the DVR, so I'm looking forward to watching that as well.
We have been talking about Netflix fans of bloodline.
Rejoice, that's going to return on May 27th.
Also Marco Polo, which I've heard very mixed reviews on.
Same here.
But season two is happening, and it's going to happen the day before my birthday, July 1st.
That's a plug, y'all.
Oh, no, the count down.
There's a 60-day count down gives.
There's a 60-day count down that happens.
Oh, don't, they won't have to.
The Empire understands that.
Speaking of shameless self-promotion.
Yeah.
Do you expect any less, sir?
Never.
Okay.
Never just making sure.
We also want to send the reminder out.
If you're listening in the Dallas Fort Worth area, and you've got nothing going on Sunday
afternoon, unless you're here at the Dallas International Film Festival, on the North Side
in Nebraska, for an at your markup in Frisco, wheel of fortune.
You're going to be doing auditions from 1 to 4.
1 to 5.
The shows will be at 1 o'clock, 230 and 4 o'clock.
Basically, the way it works is you should, they got the big bus out there.
And you show up and they give you a color-coded application.
And depending on what color your application is, that's your time to show up to audition.
And they take all the applications, and they put them in a bin, and they draw random names.
And you go up and you play a little wheel of fortune.
And if you're lucky enough, they will ask you to be on the real show.
So that's happening this Sunday from 1 to 5.
I've been in Nebraska, furniture mart up there, off a 1 to 21 in Frisco.
And then maybe you can come up on some nice furniture, electronics.
They sell this about everything.
See, the family guy kind of ruined that show for me.
Did you ever see when Pierre was on it?
And he gets to the final round.
He's like, I like an L, a Q, another Q, and a batman.
Man symbol.
And he still solves it.
Can't we be a big fan of the X-Files?
Yeah, it was.
Chad, you weren't really an X-Files guy, were you?
I watched it on occasion, but I was never like a devoted follower of it.
I've only ever watched one episode, and it was because it was the one Steven King directed.
And I remember very little about it.
I know there was something with a microwave at the end of it.
That's all I remember.
Yeah, you watch.
Ever.
I never got into it.
But people, if you were a fan of the revival that they did here
of this past January, it is going to be available on home video in June.
Got to be honest with you.
I never saw one second of it.
I have not heard good things.
The people that I've talked to that watched it were not big fans.
Sometimes your thing just kind of comes and goes.
And what says goes, it's gone.
And much less gone for as long as it was.
Right.
Right.
I just don't know what they thought was going to boot.
I don't know.
It was weird for me that they waited this long.
I'm like, okay, we'll do eight episodes.
Well, no, why would you?
Yeah, you know.
We talked about Steven King a moment ago.
I don't know if you heard about this this week, sir.
Spike TV has a 10 episode order of a series based on the missed.
Again, again, it's happening.
And we've mentioned it briefly on the show a couple of months ago,
but nothing really solid has come out of it.
But this is now officially a thing.
10 episodes.
Spike TV.
Anybody a fan of the film version?
Yeah.
One of the worst endings of a fan of I think I can ever recall.
More of a fan of the awesome audio book that they did.
The one thing I think that was really cool about that was how meta it got with
Thomas James character.
How he was basically Drew Strusion.
His character was a poster artist and every
every single sample of poster art in his gallery that he was working on.
It's beginning of the film was all done by Drew Strusion.
Drew Strusion taught him how to draw.
Speaking of what his old is new again.
TNT has announced that their tales from the crypt revival will be a 10 episode order.
This do anything for you.
Again, man, it doesn't what they're doing.
I never got into the show.
I read a couple of the comic books when I was a kid,
but when they went to the HBO series, and then they did a movie.
Bordello of blood.
I think that there was actually a tales from the crypt movie.
Bordello of blood.
No, but there was one that had multiple stories.
Like, they did a creep show type thing.
Yeah, yeah, they did both.
But it's just Bordello, but there was another one too, isn't there?
Yeah, but I agree with you there, Kevin.
It's like, it was of its time and place.
And I don't think that this is the time of the place.
Because I think vampire hunter.
Age, does an age will not something that you want to tune in to now.
And I don't think it'd be worth watching outside of HBO because they were able to get away with a lot.
Get away with everything.
TNT is just not going to be able to do it.
Because when I think vampire hunter, I think Dennis Miller.
The only thing about that film is it gave us Angie Everhardt.
That's all you get from me.
All right, Don's bringing us to guest cave.
You can sit right where you are.
Okay, let me, uh, I gotcha, I gotcha.
We're going to go ahead and turn this mic on.
You got your headphones on, sir.
Tell us who you are, hey, or tell everybody who you are.
My name's Brett Weiner and I directed a short in the festival called
verbatim the Ferguson case.
It's a part of a web series I do with the New York Times.
Ooh, okay, yeah.
This, I'm just, I'm kind of, I got to glance it because I want to act like I know what I'm doing here.
Sure.
Hit in the hot button, aren't we?
Wow, yes, I guess in a little way.
I mean, uh, so the, the story behind this short is basically I was, I had a short that
played a lot of festivals including this one in 2014 that won the audience award called
verbatim and what I did was I found a legal transcript, a real one where a, uh, lawyer argued
with a, uh, witness over what a photocop your was and they kind of argued over it for like
seven minutes and it's this like kind of perfect.
I want to say you sat down with us in 2004.
I wasn't here.
Okay, does somebody, because I'd remember that.
Maybe I'd do sure was, but yeah, because I remember that title.
It won the audience award.
Yeah, and, uh, and so it's kind of this like absurdist piece of comedy thing.
So the New York Times saw it and they asked me to sort of create a series for them.
So I created a whole bunch of different episodes based verbatim on different transcripts of
legal transcripts.
Okay, so this is, so this is one in a series.
So this is one in a series.
How many have you done?
Uh, right now, I think there's four online.
There's four online right now and I'm always kind of working sporadically on
on new ones with the Times.
Um, it's, it's a lot of fun.
And so this one in particular is a drama and it is the, uh,
grand jury transcripts from the Ferguson Missouri case, the Michael Brown shooting, uh,
and it sort of juxtaposes what the, uh, witness was with Michael Brown at the time said
happened with what the police officer who fired the shots said happened.
And it kind of tries to put you in the seat of the grand jury in terms of what they
heard just for that little piece of it.
In 17 minutes, 17 minutes.
Well, the thing about that is like the grand jury transcripts are, you know,
it's a fat thousands of pages, right?
And so what I, uh, what I did was, how do I focus in on one moment of this?
So I thought I'll focus in on one moment that will be the moment where
the incident actually happened, which I felt in a lot of media coverage was kind of like
blast over people were talking about other things.
People were talking about stuff that was, uh, you know, more sensational.
And I thought, could I connect viewers with kind of this primary source document and an
entertaining way, a dramatically compelling way and give them a little bit more insight into
how this actually happened and, and, and not even how it happened, but
what the grand jury heard to make their decision.
Part of the shorts block two.
Part of the shorts block two.
So you get to exhale by the end of the weekend because you got tomorrow when you got
Sunday.
Yeah.
And then it's just, you get to kind of wait for next Friday.
Yeah.
Yeah.
For DFS honors.
Exactly.
How long did it take you to shoot it?
Uh, it was a two-day shoot.
We've got in like a hotel conference room.
Uh, we had kind of like, we called the times called the
place where it took place for real and got kind of like reference photos and they
described the room and so we built it kind of like that and it was a two-day shoot.
One day it was one witness and the next day it was the next.
Next witness and I kind of juxtapose them together in the editing.
How long was post?
Ooh.
That's a, that's a interesting question because I'm always like working on many things at the same
time.
You're juggling.
So it's not like I just focusing on this but it took, it took a while.
It took some time to put together because, you know, you have to be very careful with how you put
together, not to misrepresent anything and, you know, there's no such thing as a film that's not
subjective, but how do you make a film that's less subjective, especially when you're dealing with this.
So you say you shot four of these?
Yes.
So I shot.
Are you looking to make this into a longer series or are you just kind of taking it as it goes?
Yeah, I'm kind of taking it as it goes but it's a really fun, there's tons of stuff out there
that I just haven't had the opportunity to film like tons of like kind of like thrillery
transcripts kind of funny transcripts kind of dramatic transcripts and there's just a lot of,
I'm not going to say what's what's next but there's a lot of fun stuff out there.
There's a new ruin my next question.
I know, I know, I know, I kind of ruin that advice but I,
there's, because I don't know which one exactly I'm going to choose and there's a lot of different
compelling ones and I'm just trying to think about what would be the most interesting.
Are you looking to keep them in that short block or are you looking to make a longer narrative?
Well, for the times because it's a short web series that they're just these short little snippets.
However, if I do find something that I could take from kind of like a long order method that would
be like to drum a 911 call all the way to a trial or something, I do that.
I like the murder one model where you just take a whole season.
Yeah, exactly kind of cool.
I just would have to find it.
That's the thing. It's a pretty heavy research task to find these things.
Well, we've also got somebody from the other side of the camera joining us.
I don't want to keep her mic muted too much longer.
She might throw something at me.
Sure, Allison joins us.
No letting go. This thing has been around in the Dahlsary for a couple of weeks now if I'm not mistaken.
Was there a recent media event for this?
Yes, there was and we actually just had our release last week.
We had a theatrical limited release in Los Angeles in New York and then it's been released on
all cable platforms and Amazon and iTunes and all of that and it's based on a true story.
And I play the lead role of the mother who has a young son who begins to exhibit
symptoms of mental illness. So to heavy, heavy film.
We've got two heavy subjects going on at the same time here.
Yeah.
Do we plan this this way?
Yes.
Fantastic.
Maybe Dawn did.
Yeah. So it's, I mean, really, I mean, last night was the opening gala.
I don't know if you guys were having a chance to be a part of it.
We were actually a whole different part of town.
It's the first year we've missed the gala in the three years we've worked this.
So really, tonight is really the first night of the festival.
And to have the two of you here together, because again, both sides of the camera,
I'm always interested to hear the difference in views.
How do you feel right now as the festival opens?
And you don't have anything in the festival but you're here.
And this can't be your first rodeo.
No, it's not.
We've been in festivals all over the world.
So what, it described for us for our audience, what's that first night of a festival?
Even though your start doesn't start until tomorrow night.
Sure.
It's still, it's of that first night.
Give it, give our audience a feel of how you feel on the open night of a festival.
Where you're having something featured?
Sure, we're looking at each other saying,
No, no, no, no.
Well, I can only know from experience because we're lucky that no letting go has been in so many festivals all over the world.
And it's so exciting because there's just this energy in the air and you're excited to meet the other actors
and actresses and the filmmakers.
And it's just a wonderful support of environment because everybody's there for the art
and the film and it's so wonderful because you're getting to see amazing independent films that
sometimes don't have a chance to be on the big screen.
And so it's, it's just wonderful.
And we've covered this one, again, this is our third year and we've covered the Dallas video
festival, which happens in the fall and some of the films that we've gotten to see,
I just, I bang my head against the wall like why, why isn't this more,
what's the word I'm looking for?
Consumable by a bigger audience, especially when you've got these short films,
to me there should be a better outlet for that.
Yeah, yeah, it's tough with shorts and it's tough with some features too that don't get like the
distribution and don't get the people seeing it because I feel like there's so many cool things like
being on the opening night of a festival with all these awesome people making all these really
interesting cool things, basically for the love of it, it's a really wonderful feeling and it's
fun to like do it and talk to it and see it and talk about it and it's just like it feels very
pure in a way or something like that, right? Like no commercials, no none of that.
You're just looking at some cool stuff, maybe by some people that all they want to do is
make cool stuff and a wonderful networking tool, yeah, especially, so she said you're having
things that you're not worried about, you know, having at the festival, you get to talk to
everybody and you kind of have that little exhale feeling a little bit, which, you know,
you're going to have Monday because after Sunday you're like, I've done what I can do.
Those Q&A's, yeah, I got to be prepared for those Q&A and the block for that short,
looks like one, two, three, four, about seven different shorts in your block.
Do you know where you're going to be? Is the order and the media guy the order they're going to be in
or how you know? No, I haven't seen it yet, it will be very interesting to see what proceeds
mine and what finishes mine because it's pretty heavy, so it's like, will they go light,
will it go back? That's a director, what's your preference? I leave it to the festival
programmers, I think whatever they kind of decide is like their thing, I say like going to a
film festival is like going to a wedding, it's your wedding, you do whatever you want, I'm just
like that. But there's somebody else coordinating the whole thing. Yeah, as an actor,
do you prefer to an earlier screening or a later screening within a festival day? Not necessarily
of the festival overall, because this is a nine-day festival, probably closer to 10 or 11.
But as an actor on festival day, do you want to hit that 730 and be done with it and then go
hang out or do you want to kind of let the thing build and have a little bit later of showing?
You know, I think for me, I always prefer it for us to be in the evening, especially if it's
a weeknight, because obviously people are at work, so you get a bigger crowd. So on the weekends,
you go, yeah, it didn't really matter. Yeah, the workforce, but it didn't matter during the weekends,
but you know, at the weeks, I like it to be in the evening. But you know, I wanted to say something
because you do have a short film in this festival. Festivals are so wonderful, four short films,
because sometimes you can get enough buzz about it, then to make a feature film, and that's
what happened to the film I was in. We were a short film festivals worldwide, one awards,
and it got enough attention to get funding to make a feature film. And now it's released.
And I love those kind of stories, because we've seen it here at the Dallas International Film
Festival as well. And there's also even narratives out there, a film that Chad and I have talked about
for the better part of a year was here last year, and it's called Raiders, the story of the
greatest fan film ever made. And it's about a couple of guys when they were kids who did a shot by
shot on video remake of Raiders of the Lost Army. We did it over eight summers. Well, finally,
two months ago, it gets announced that Draft House films is going to distribute it. And you don't
if you don't have things like this or South by or the LA film festival, you don't get those
opportunities. You know, films like that could begin, which as I'm a grown man and I will say,
I cried like a child in this film. I'm not because first of all, I'm a Batman fanatic, and that
doesn't help. But secondly, the story of this kid, you know, not only does it get picked up and
distribute it on Netflix right now, you should go check it out. If you just want to cry for a while.
It's tears of joy, but just don't cry. And now it's going to be a narrative.
You know, your movie is a true story. It's now picked up into a full narrative. That's to me,
and sometimes you have to start with that short. Exactly, exactly, because we got the fan base,
so then we got the funding. Then the narrative feature was in festivals worldwide, and then it was
taken to the American film market, and we got picked up for distributions. And it's all because
of the film festival circuit, you know, places like Dallas International Film Festival.
And also with the technology moving as fast as it does, too, you know, we're getting to a point
where VOD is so viable, because you've got a lot of these, like whether it's direct TV,
whether it's dish network, whether it's you versus where they get these exclusive deals with these
films, and they pimped the crap out of them, because they exactly, and they you get all that,
so you walk over somebody's house, and say, hey, you can punch up my movie right now.
And I made more money on those platforms. Do they really? I've never looked at that side of it.
They actually do, especially these indie films. You know, you want to have the actual
release of course, but that's sometimes not where the money's going to come from. It's the VOD.
People are renting it at home, the cable providers, that sort of thing.
Oh, I think we're like, oh, oh, just got red light.
Well, I think you're scared, but I know, we don't have very awkward right now.
Never dealt with this before. At least we have music playing in the background.
Okay, cool. I think we're good now. Okay. They're having nice little toast for a film that's
showing tonight. We do want to interrupt what they had going on. Okay, so on this show, we make no
bones about it. Shame will self promotion is what we're all about. So we're going to give you a chance,
so we can go let you enjoy yourself for a while, so you're not strapped us the whole night.
Give me everything. Websites, social media, we're working people go. We'll talk for a
short. Block two is tomorrow at 415 in the afternoon. Yep, Sunday at 245 in the afternoon.
Yep, both here at the Angelica upstairs, from where we are right now, theater 7, everything else go.
I urge people to Google verbatim near times, and then you'll see all of the things that I've
done for the near times for the verbatim series, which is very, very exciting. People should check out.
I don't work there anymore, but I used to, and I love it. Honest trailers was a show I co-created.
Really, I love Honest trailers. Cool. I'm always fine. I'm partially responsible for that. Yes.
Love that. So we talked about that if you want, but always, I always try to throw them up
blood, because I like the guys over there and they're in the horror ends, and sometimes I go back
there to do some fun stuff. And then what I'm working on next is a documentary about the internet,
kind of like a snapshot of the internet in 2016. Okay. And that's kind of all I can say about that.
So just look at if you see kind of like some weird internet, it's not going to be weird. It's actually
many great. Some internet documentary across your path could be me. Oh, right.
Got the name. Fair enough. Cheryl. She was self-promotion. Yes, here it is. My movie No Letting Go has
just been released, and it's available on all cable providers like Time Warner, Indish, and Direct TV,
Verizon Files, and it's also available for streaming and download on the movie's website, NoLettingGoMovie.com.
We have a Facebook page, No LettingGoMovie, as well. So I hope people will see it by the DVD,
rent it, all of that good stuff. And the next thing I have going for me is I am actually going
behind the camera. Nice. Time, right, female director. Awesome. And I'm directing a documentary.
Oh, very bright now. I think it may be a short. We'll see. But it's a local DFW subject,
which I can't talk about yet. Fair enough. But I will say Fox 4 already tried to report on it.
Really? So, hello. So, we're in the middle of filming, and I'm hoping to, you know,
bring it here to Dallas International Film Festival next year. Awesome. When we're done.
Well, you guys go and join the festival. Thank you. It's about to get done. It's about to get done.
It's what was our honor. Awesome. Guys, don't join yourself.
You were listening to the Clubhouse podcast. Normally, we're live on Sunday,
nights, seventies, or four Pacific, but tonight we're alive at the Dallas International Film Festival.
Part one of two, we're doing tonight, and then we're going to be here again next Friday,
night. We're going to be on a little bit late next Friday night, because we're going to be on
right after the DFS honors show happens. And if you listen to this show for a long time,
you know that is the most wheels off show we do all year, and it's not our fault. So,
that being said, we have our next couple of guests joining us. I'm going to let you guys
introduce yourselves. Talk right into those microphones, so everybody can hear you.
I'm Alex Blair, one of the directors with the Film Farmer Vetron.
I'm Jeremy Lang, the other director of Farmer Vetter.
I read a little bit about this in the media guy when it first hit, because I was a little
intriguing to me, but I really don't want to screw this up. So, I'm going to let you guys talk about
the documentary first, and then we'll do a little talking. Okay, so, talk right into that thing,
if you would. There you go. The film follows Farmer Army Sergeant Alexander Sutton through his first
three years when he retired from the military. He has a diagnosis of chronic post-traumatic stress,
and he takes up farming to sort of, you know, to find new purpose, new direction in his life after,
you know, coming back from three tours on Iraq. And this thing's about to happen in that.
I just looked in the media guy. This is happening in about 45 minutes.
How old is premier? That was my next question. How are you feeling right now?
Are there nerves just kind of gone at this point? Is the adrenaline still flowing? Are you waiting
for the second wind? I think the nerves are gone Thursday before we flew here. I didn't sleep
but now we're here, you know, it's like, what are you going to do? It's great to be here.
The support's been great. The festival's been really nice to us. And it's going to show twice.
It's going to show tonight at 715 tomorrow at 515. What brought you to this subject?
We came to this subject. I was working with a Farmer Outreach group, and I had previously been working
in radio, and I had done a story about a veteran that had gone into farming, and so it was in my
brain as something really fascinating, and something nationally happening of soldiers coming back,
and we need new farmers, half of all farmers are retiring, so I thought, oh, this is a great
story, and I met Alex in my Outreach work, and wanted to go into film, and Jeremy had been doing
veteran work in photography for a long time. So we connected, and thought it would be a short film
over a couple of months, and four years later, it is not that. 82 minutes. 82 minutes?
About standard for your documentary. Is it where you want it? Do you have you watched it and gone?
Oh, I wanted to interview you to more, or do you want you to go, oh, we probably could have
backed off a little bit. There's always things that I think you change in anything like this.
In one way, it will be shown on television, sometimes the next year too, so we're also in the process
of making a 54 minute TV hour cut. Can we talk about with who, so we can get people the pressure
that? We're very proud of it. PBS. Yeah, we've got it. We've got it. I'm getting to be older,
but I appreciate documentaries more, because the, I hate to use the word narrative because it's
a different genre, but to me, that's what a documentary is. It's more of a narrative than
a narrative film is, and to see so many different perspectives, and this, like I said,
what I read this in the media, I was like, okay, you have my attention. My broadcast partner
is a veteran. So, you know, he's always on board with stuff like this, and we talk about stuff
like this all of the time, and the combination of these two professions, you know, you have veterans
and who really, we all believe, us should be honest, they should be treated better than they are.
And to go into something like farming, which is such a challenging thing in this day and age,
I am fascinated. I'm not even going to sugarcoat this. Q and A tonight?
Yes, after the film, I believe. Tomorrow?
We're here. Okay, so if they give me a microphone, I will answer questions.
Yeah. So, I mean, where does it go after here? Because are you going to continue to show it?
Or is it the PBS deal going to kind of take over at some point? We will still be, you know,
we're still pursuing other festival, you know, screenings, and in the process, you know,
and then over the next few months, we're cutting it down for TV. So that's sort of, that's
Where's it going after here, you know, for sure? We don't know yet. We're also really interested in the,
the model that started with documentaries lately of alternative venues like veterans,
halls, farms, schools, like, there are a couple companies similar to Kickstarter that like do that.
You hook up with them and they help get you out to the non-theor, hopefully to reach more people in a certain way.
If they want to get a hold of you, I don't want to take up too much of your time because I know you guys need to go get
right ahead space for the film because is this the, so this is the premiere. So even have you
watched it with anybody besides just you? Yes, yes, yes. Okay. So it's not the final version,
but test screenings. Yeah. But it's also our first film ever, too. So you have our world premiere
and we're brand new filmmakers. So we're extremely grateful. And you're a lot calmer than I would be right now.
I would be like words not in brain to make mouth where we're talking for until movie ends. Like
this, I mean, because the Dallas International Film Festival is a great film festival.
And what I really love about this festival is it's, it's, it's got a sense of community to it.
Like, there's people from everywhere, but everybody just feels like you've known each other
to your entire lives. And we're glad you guys are here, but we want to do state shameless self-promotion.
So give us any way people need to contact you, find out about the film, support the film,
get behind the film, all that good stuff.
Farmerveterin.com. And I think the best thing you can do is talk to all the veterans, you know,
find out what's going on with them. Yeah, then wrong with that. Yep. Is there social media at all
that people can get behind? Yes, our Twitter is Farmerveterin. At Farmerveterin.
Our website has a contact page. I mean, we would love to hear from people. We would love email us
right into the website tweet at us. Possibility of home video release that people can start to look
into as well. We hope very much so. Yeah. Yeah. And on PBS, we'll shout out when that
air date will be sometime next year. We don't have it locked down yet. And then feel free to let
us know because again, we're about shameless self-promotion. Not only for us, but for the people
we have on this show. And we want to definitely want to stay in behind you guys on this. Thank you.
Thank you. So go get ready. Thank you. Because you are just a little bit over a half an hour away
from this deal. Congratulations. Thank you. I would say I hope it goes well, but there's no
my doubt in my mind that it will will because you're going to get a lot of support on this. Thank you so
much. Thank you. All right. Thank you guys. Thank you, sir. This is your wheelhouse, man. It really is.
Gentlemen, get over here. Because we have now we're going to take a little breather, a little breather,
because the movie brothers are now complete because they are plural. Joining Kevin's back with us,
also joining us is Kevin's broadcast partner from the movie brothers and is here.
Talk right into that microphone, sir. It's good to see you. Good to see you, too.
And did you make it out last night? Yes, I did. How did last night go? It was good, man.
Great turnout. Had a win. Yeah, right on top of that. Thank you. Had a wonderful time. There you go.
Yeah, that sounds a lot better. There are unidirectional. So you're going to have to be right on top of them.
It was sexy. Get very wide on it. Get very wide on it. Yeah, get it. Don't get him started.
Too late. But no, hey, man, I had a great time last night at the premiere of the land.
The land? Yes. So it was packed house and a great turnout, like I said, and very nice at the event.
I saw some of the pictures from last night. There was a great Q&A afterwards.
By the looks of things and there was a lot of people there. Yeah, yeah. There were a lot of people there.
I was sitting next to some folks from WFA and plugging the movie brothers for good luck.
And we just want to put it out there because this is the first film festival that you guys have been able to cover.
How are you feeling about this deal right up? Because it's here. It's now. It's happening.
Well, I'll speak for, for me, it's combination of excitement and nervousness all together.
For example, like coming through the event last night, right? And, you know, seeing the red carpet and it's like, wow, this is real, you know.
It's gorgeous festival. I love this festival. And everything's so top notch. Don's signaling me for something.
I have no idea what's going on right now. Oh, okay, okay, okay. Oh, okay, cool. Thank you.
So, um, you guys are going to be with us on and off all night. Yeah, absolutely. So, we did because we, I don't want to just run my app and we don't have guests on because
And we love you guys. You guys are our, our counter-part show. We're blamed on this part.
So, do though, that is the next one. Yeah. All right, looks like we're going to have a return of some of the cast from a fat rack.
So, and there are puppets involved, sir. You go with puppets? I used to do, I used to do, I used to be involved in a puppet ministry.
What I was in the youth group. I did ventriloquism in elementary school. That's right. I forgot about that way into it.
It's a puppet, Don. No, there's a difference. It's a punk rock puppet. There you go. Go ahead and put your headphones on, sir.
So, you can hear yourself talk.
I go ahead and we feel free to tell our audience who you are.
My name is Joel Herr. I'm a producer for a fat rack.
I am Justin Wilson, cinematographer editor producer for a fat rack and this is Aaron Burkett.
There are some moments where we're a video in audio media and just does not do things just as this is one of those moments.
That's definitely one of them. We talked to the, to the fellows earlier, came by. There were our first guests on the show.
How were you guys feeling because it's happening tonight, right? 1030?
Man, I am ecstatic. I'm overexcited right now. This is my first, I guess, debut or premiere for anything at a film festival.
Wow. Most of you do a lot of music video commercial work, so it's awesome to just be somewhere where you get to see something on a big screen.
They got a haircut for this. Yeah, I know.
I did go dapper he look. I know. I had not haircut for three years. I cut off 11 inches for this thing, man.
So, I remember years ago when I had to do that. Did you spend two days with your head just going?
Your head just feels lighter. Every time I go on the show, or I still reach for the bun, and I'm like,
shit, it's not there. What I was, what I was cutting mine. I'm part of my focus is I would work the ponytail back and forth.
And for days, my hand would just fly past my head. It was the weirdest thing.
I am very interested in this documentary because, one thing we were, we were talking about earlier is,
when people talk about punk and they say, I'd feel like punk music.
The question you have to ask is, well, give me an era to work with. Because punk has evolved so much.
But you look, when you, in the media guys, a couple of the bands they mentioned, still have relevance today.
No effects, of course, rise against. I think rise against was just in town, or they're getting ready to be in.
I think they're about to come through town. Yeah. And they're going to have a pack of towels. And I love that, that this genre can maintain.
Because music is music. And this is actual music. There's guys just out there playing instruments.
And we need to keep that alive in my opinion. There's so much that we had to tell because
of fat records now has about a 25-year legacy that we focused on 90 to 99. The first five bands
that influenced the whole actual label itself, you know, that they give the synonymous like fat records sound.
But we do touch a little bit on that because their label was a label that at one point had up
towards about 20 employees, three offices around the world. And now that condensed down about,
I think it's seven or eight core employees. And they're in one facility. And there's still 100
independent, like 100% independent. They're not a subsidiary of a major label. They're their own entity.
And you guys have been doing more press up until now because I know some of our friends in the press core.
Got to hang out with you guys just a few days ago. Oh yeah. And the only reason I know that is because I recognized
pop it because the puppet was in a lot of. Explain the role of the puppet and how it works in the whole thing.
The puppet's came about because we would need something for the recreation. So we wanted to do animation,
but couldn't afford it. And it locks you down too. Yeah. And so we just decided or one of the
actually one of the a girl from one of the fat records bands makes puppets. So we thought that's cheap.
And and it works into the documentary. Well and we can just take like with the animation,
you got to think about it. You got to make sure you're doing the right thing with the puppet.
It's like, oh, we need that puppet farting on that guy's head. So you can just grab the puppet and
like film the puppet. And you could be done in five minutes and you could have a whole scene that the audience left
that so quickly. So the limitation became actually an advantage. And there's no worry about pre-production or
waiting for them to come out of their trailer because they're there and they're ready to go. Yeah.
So you're saying this is your first premiere. So is this your first time seeing the film with
a live audience? No, we did a test screening back in San Francisco. And I believe you did one in Florida,
just to kind of test the waters. You didn't really announce it kind of announced a day of and just brought
some people in off the street. And we got a huge reaction out of the puppets. And that's how we knew like,
okay, well, let's go back and re-shoot more puppet sequences. And it literally turned into we
overloaded it. And we were like, okay, let's start pulling some stuff back. It's going to bring it back.
So literally got to the point where we were down in Austin over at Cut Studios and Justin and Sean were
literally editing the film. And they would turn around and be like, hey, we need to get this
of the puppets sequence blah blah, I got to get it. And me and one of our other PAs, we would run down
and we would cheat right quick and come back and bring it to them. They throw it in the timeline,
see if it worked. Yeah, cool. Hey, we also need this. So it was it gave us the ability to not have to
for worry about, you know, actors or this and that. We all trade it off the puppeteers and
cameraman and any schedule of where the film goes from here. We show at the National Film Festival
next week. I believe on Monday and Tuesday. And then after that following, I think that Thursday
Friday we're at the Newport Beach Film Festival as well. And then we have a couple of other things
towards the fall that we're still kind of planning on painting right now. We've got a screening at
Chernobyl. It's puppets only. That's one of those moments was like, is he doing a bit? Do I react to this?
Yeah, let's talk any distribution talk. There are some things pending, but you know, until
anything's on paper, you know, you don't really like to do it. We get a lot of that at the festival,
but if I don't ask, you can't tell me. It's one of these times I wish I had an answer for you.
So you've got, there's two showings, correct? Yeah, it's Marna, it's 730. So tonight it's 1030 to
Marna, it's 730 and you guys tonight are in Angelica 6. I believe so. That's one of the bigger houses.
So that's going to be really awesome. Yeah, we were excited about that. I was hoping for a small,
I'd rather smell it a smaller venue than kind of halfway pack a bigger one, but it's not like
a huge object. It's one of the bigger ones for the Angelica. Yeah, for the Angelica. And the Angelica is a
great place to have your film show. Because we're here. This is our third year doing the festival. And
we love the people of the Angelica. They're so great to us. But they're amazing. Have you had a chance
to maybe look through the media guide and see if there's anything else that you're interested in
while you're here? Uh, there is that one, uh, innocent, uh, proven innocent? Yes, I believe that's
a thing. A guilty before proven innocent or something like that. Something of it's, I do,
I do recognize the title. I got a chance to talk to those filmmakers and that story is
completely absurd. And I just, I can't believe the trial and tribulations I woman went through.
So that, that one for me is a, is a huge one. And then there's the, um, that guy just kiss you?
It's okay. We know it. That's another one of the right moments. It's okay.
I'm sorry, I'm sorry. You know, it may not have been the first time. It probably won't be
the last time. I took me a second, because I didn't even get to look, get to look at his face. I just saw
the top of his hand grabbing my hand. He's, uh, he's the looks of the face. I'm sorry.
So it just kind of works out that way. And then, uh, it's the hair. It is the hair. Is it, is it?
It's the same since you also would happen to you. Uh, someone's going to kiss me any moment.
You're missing out on all this. And this is also part of the Deep Ellen sounds series this year
at the festival. Uh, are you guys going to be sticking around for most of the festival? Or do you
got it? Are you going to jet? Yeah. Oh, I'm going to try to, uh, stay at the
stick around and feel it. We leave on Monday. So, okay. She got the whole weekend at
the festival. How long is the festival? It runs until a week from Sunday, actually. The
honors ceremony is next Friday night. We'll be here to do the post show for that. Oh, we don't have
to go to that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's not as going to have it in the show after that. The show
after that show is always the craziest show of the year, because people are real loose. That's all
I'm saying. Last year, you're no loose to you seem puppets get loose. That is true. I actually
these puppets get. I think puppets are for seven years. So I was a kid. Yeah. My church. We had
puppets. I'm all through gentlemen who always have puppets. You told me that regularly. Only
when it comes up in conversation. But like last year, we actually had the bar set for us, because
right in the middle of the podcast right after DFS honors, John Land is just crashed our podcast
for like five minutes. Well, but tell them who we were talking to. I had the time we had a
Lorden Miller from the Lego movie. They basically hijacked our show for a half an hour. And just
when we just kind of just have to act like it's Lorden Miller. You're going to tell him this time. Yeah.
Yeah. And you haven't heard loose until you've heard Lorden Miller do islands in the stream
death metal style on the show. Yeah. They did that on the show. They left our show and then they
wouldn't did it next to us on karaoke. It's just that show is the most fun show of the year,
because it almost drives itself. You know, I just kind of just push buttons and okay, here we go.
So gentlemen, we're going to go let you enjoy the festival. Awesome. Thank you. We're looking forward
to hearing the feedback from you. It's because Q and A, of course, after the show tonight, I'm sure.
Q and A after the show. And then there's an after party. People's last stand. Oh, we're just right here.
It's right down the plaza from the front of the Angelica. Gentlemen, thank you so much. Thanks a lot for
having us. Oh, thank you. Oh, thank you for being here, man. All right. All right. All right. We are still going.
It is. All right. I'm just done doing a time check on this thing here, because we are going strong.
All right. And can come back sit down because we're waiting on Don's and Don's probably
fishing some more people out for us. You are listening to the clubhouse podcast,
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have to change anything to get their stuff. They're gonna hit, man. I know. We just did. We were actually
right in the middle of TV talk. I believe. Yes. Is Jackie Earle Haley like everywhere right now?
Because he just he just announced two more projects. He's I'm actually
I'm going to do a reverse order because the second one, if you don't know,
cab, you're going to be very interested in. He is going to be playing the terror on the
revival of the tick on Amazon. Okay. That's interesting. And he's playing
the vampire leader in the dark tower. Oh, wow. That cast keeps getting. It gets better and better.
You know, and I'm a huge steamer king fan. So I'm very excited about. You know, I've talked
quite extensively about this. Absolutely. And do you have any issues in either one of those projects?
No. Okay. That's what makes you guys a show. That's right. You know, if you haven't checked out
the movie brothers doing this, that be our UTAs dot com. Yes. Yeah. Right reviews and YouTube reviews.
I am caught up right now. I'm sure there's another one coming this weekend. Because if I'm not mistaken,
you guys are going to be leaving the festival and going to see a film you're going to be reviewing.
That is correct. Because yes, tomorrow we are shooting barbershop and miles ahead.
So yeah, those are our releases today. We've got our reviews up for that as well.
Let's see. Speaking of Amazon, and I don't know how to feel about this. So you're going to have to
roll with me on this chat. Okay. You guys remember across the universe, correct? Yes.
Julie Tamor directs it's a musical and it's all Beatles music. Yes. Well, Amazon is doing a series
similar to that. It's going to be called Time Out of Mind. But it's going to be based on characters
from Bob Dylan's songs. And it's going to be a one hour dramatic series. I think you just kind of
lost me. But I don't know because I kind of like the concept of this thing. If I want to be
but I'm asleep, but I'm trying to like exactly. I mean Amazon's doing what they can to keep up.
Well, the characters are going to talk like this. As long as one of them is not
cake blind shed, I think will be okay. Was that I'm not here? Yes. I'm not here as
before we move on. We want to do another quick plug for a friend for the show, Misty Varsalone.
May the 15th cars for Costa out in Rockwall. It's a big car show they do every year. And all
of the proceeds go to Costa, which benefits children that are in troubled situations. It's a great
show. You get to see some great cars. There's going to be live music. There's going to be food
to hold deal. It's on a Sunday. Usually a beautiful day out in Rockwall at the Harbor. So we want
to make sure you check that out. Cars for Costa look it up. And I are being summoned to vacate
the premises. Okay, so we're moving right here. I like it you guys are here because it means
I'm not just sitting here twiddling my thumbs. We love being here. We're glad you guys are here.
So Don's bringing us a whole slew of people. I don't have enough. Do we have enough room?
All right, Don, what are we doing? What are we doing? What are we doing?
I always love it when we have more people than we have microphones because of the shift that they
all go through that. No, you need to sit down. No, you need to sit down.
I got you. No. No, you know what, he directs it. I got you. Louis is new from my
secret wedding. Johnny's from my car. Okay, this. I'm going to let them introduce themselves
because that way I don't screw it up. So that way you know your own name. We'll better than
I know your name. So that way I'm screwed things up. Go ahead and speak right into those microphones
because they're unidirectional. So you have to be right on top of them to talk. Tell everybody who
you are and what you're representing. Right on. Well, I'm Louis Mandeloo. I'm representing
these two cats next to me with him coffin and Johnny's strong with daylight sand.
And I'm Wilcoffman with daylight sand, the director. Okay.
Man a few words. He's like, dude, I'm back here. I'm out of mouth.
daylight sand. I've actually seen some promos for this out in a round. Tell our audience about the film.
William? Okay, it's a post-apocalyptic action thriller. Okay. It's kind of a little bit of
Mad Max meets 20 days later. You have my attention to how you definitely have his attention
for sure. Yeah, it's some insanity. I think if you're, if that sounds like something you'd
want to see, you'll love it. Is it, is this the world premiere or is that shown before?
Oh, wow. What time? Oh, so you've got, you've got time to relax and you've been now
been through the red carpet and you've done the rigmarole. You know the drill. Yeah, the drinking
starts now. Let's just be honest. Right. Well, they said the bar was closed in here.
They started a while. See, that's why that's my show to the backers. Like, I'm already on my way,
bro. Nothing wrong with that. Talk about, I mean, how long did it take to shoot? Let's talk
about the film itself. I mean, you guys are here to promote it and we want to promote it for you.
Well, this one was a monster. I mean, we were doing a really ambitious project for a very modest
budget. So, which doesn't reflect that at all, by the way. I'll tell you why if I can
into Jack real quick with him. You know, I've been doing this 27 years now. These two cats next
to me are the real deal. Number one, Johnny Strong here. You know, we're talking about the real deal.
When you see this guy move, when you see this guy play this role, you're going to enjoy it
because it's believable. William Kaufman, as I call him, the white John Wooman,
building his own reputation in his legacy with these movies. The movies kick out and his character
driven, so it's not just your quintessential zombies that are stalking you at a walking pace. These
guys think they interact as a hierarchy and these guys know their action. And that's part of why I'm
here to be honest because I feel safe being part of this. I'm real pumped to see it. And it's part of
the Texas series, which, for the Dallas International Film Festival, this thing, because it was
based film. So it's a big thing. I mean, I'm based out of Dallas. So raised here. So it was a huge opportunity
to bring a movie back here. I feel a bit. No, no, no, no, no, no. It's just a bunch of bad kids.
That's what it is. You know what? But if you're having fun doing it, it doesn't, it's not all matters.
And it was, it was quite the movie. It was pretty demanding. I mean, as we know, the heat here is
you know, a hundred plus. And it was a, in the morning, we had a very, very mild winter. So I'm very,
very frightened of what summer is going to bring this year. We did, I don't know, last year was
good enough for me. Oh, I think it's going to be worse this year. Good luck. And another one of
Chad's favorites is actually in this film that we haven't mentioned. Mr. Lance Hendrickson. Yes. I have a fan.
Lance is amazing. And also, Don, who brought you over here, he's a big alien fan. So if he missed
that part of it, he's probably going to be kicking himself for the rest of the day, how long did it take
you to shoot? We shot a total 30 days. Okay. Yeah. 106 minutes. Is that about where you want it to be?
Yes. Okay. So we're ready. We're negotiating the domestic deal right now. So.
Is this after you leave here, is it going to show anywhere else? Because it looks like you've actually
got two showings tonight. They're saying 11.59. So you get the credit for today. I'm sure. And then
tomorrow night at 10.55. That's right. And then we have a screening at Texas Friday,
May weekend, which is next weekend and we get out of the market. Okay. So two weeks from this week.
Yeah. And Lance is graciously coming in for that and he'll be there in the theater.
And that's a big show. I don't know if you guys know much about Texas right, Mayor weekend. It's
it's a very, very big deal. It's got it's growing exponentially. I mean, even in the last four or
five years, it's just it's huge now. There's a lot of big name guests coming in. So you
guys are getting getting some good exposure for this. Is there anybody? Is there anybody that we
can since we're worldwide that you might be in negotiations for distribution that we can put some pressure
on? Or is it one of those? We can't talk about it. Yeah. We gotta get it all signed and dotted,
you know. But but we're close and everyone's friends and it looks like it's going to happen.
And another one of Chad's favorites is in this film, too. One is fair. Right. Yeah. She shows up everywhere
when we do one of these local festivals. Her name pops up about a dozen dyes. And nobody has ever said
an ill were like everybody's doing her praises. And so well, she's batshit crazy in this
little. Well, the killer thing is we've never had a chance to talk to her. Well, you will
bring her a breath. There you go. I had to do his ask sir. If you don't ask, they can't say yes.
Because we've had like two or three of these festivals that she's had films in them that she's been
involved in. But she was always either on the carpet when we were talking to the people involved in her film.
Or she was in the theater. And she was never able to come out here. She will be someone come out.
Indeed. So what's next for you guys? I mean, what else is on the plate? What's next? Well,
you know, the next thing I did a film prior to this with Johnny called sinners and Lewis,
called sinners and saints. It's an action cop film. And this next one around it looks like we're going
to get to do a sequel and do that film to that film. Okay. Lewis can't be in that one he died in the
first one, but he's helping us produce the film. But what do we know about? What do we know about
Hollywood? Does it? It's just like comic books. Does anybody really like it? I can come back as, you know,
Joe blow with the different hands. Oh, it was like not in a cop. If you've seen the way this
teaser poster for the Kingsman sequel, it's making it sound like Colin first not dead. And it's like,
spoiler alert. If you haven't seen the film, don't care. He got shot in the head. So how was this?
Is he a hologram? Is he like, you know, you do it that? Do you take that angle? No, no. I mean,
that Lewis is brains all over the pavement. I can't talk that. But hey, going back to this film,
Lewis is phenomenal on it. Thanks. Will you come check it out? And there was something I was
wanting to ask you, and I just answered my own question. Who your brother is? It was
costus. I was kind of bringing it up. I wanted to be honest. He's very difficult to work with.
He was in the first one. I don't know who's who has come to think of it right now. But once again,
Will's been good to us. And he was in sinners too with these guys' costus. The first one as well.
So like I said, I love these guys. I support them and it's good to be part of the sequel. Or if you could
call it that, I'm not sure, but it's just good to be part of it in any way or shape of one. And
we're crazy excited about it. Right, Johnny. Q and A after the film, I'm assuming tonight.
I've heard that's going to happen. If you walk in and you see directors chairs, you know,
you're at the right direction. I think so. Yeah. Um, and for people that maybe if you can't
make it out tomorrow night, come out tomorrow night, come out tomorrow night. I do speak English. I promise.
Okay, back it up. Flip it. Reverse it. We're good. For people that can't make it out tonight
that come out for the screen tomorrow night. Will you guys be doing a Q and A for that one?
I assume we are. I'm not sure, but as far as I know, we are sold out. We have rush tickets available.
So all right. So real quick, because one of which you guys go get ready, shameless self-promotions
give me websites, give me social media and how I don't anybody can get to this film. Facebook,
Daylight's in the movie. Um, what else we got? Johnny Strong.com.
All right. Twitter, anything else? We've got it all. Daylight's in the movie. And it's all it's all there. Twitter,
awesome. All of it. Gentlemen, congratulations. Looking forward to hearing the feedback.
Nice. All right. You got it. Daylight's in. And we'll see what happens.
And we'll bring you food. See, there you go. All right. If you don't ask, thank you so much,
gentlemen, we appreciate you coming on. You're always into the clubhouse pocket, sir.
I want you to look at you. I want you to look, I want you to look straight ahead right now, sir.
I want you to look straight ahead. Okay. Okay. Okay. So you know where we're at. I know where you're
right where you need to be. All right. We're going to continue on. And I'm going to take a beat,
okay. Well, that's what's getting set down. Let's get some headphones on people. Let's get this thing moving.
Because not only am I excited about talking to these, our next guests,
I'm excited about the film they're representing. It's a film that when I read it in the media,
God, I went, you have my attention. And you know what? I'm actually going to bury the lead,
because I'm going to let you guys introduce yourselves. Because if I introduce you, it's, you know,
it's going to be more impactful, if you do. You'll screw up the names. You know, I probably will with my luck.
Hi, I'm Olivia Unger, director of Hotel Dallas.
Shengling Long, Olivia's co-director. I'm a major icon actor named Patrick. Yes.
Indeed, you are, sir. You know, I, that one I would have screwed up. There's no way I got this one.
I didn't recognize. Hotel Dallas, I did see you guys have been working the press circuit. I saw
some pictures this morning on social media. Tell about this film because it's really an
interesting concept. You guys, go, you only got three minutes. I think Olivia better take this one,
because it's based on her childhood. Oh, okay, fair enough. So yes, the film is based on the
childhood experience that I had growing up in communist Romania during the 1980s when the
Dallas TV show was the only American TV show allowed on TV. Oh wow. And so the film is actually
about, it's inspired by Dallas, by the famous death of Bobby Ewing. And that's about the
soap opera character. Let's heavily imply to be Bobby Ewing who dies on his TV show and then wakes
up in the parallel world in a replica of the South or Grange in Romania. And that's actually
a real place that a Dallas super fan built. Oh wow. That's the hotel Dallas. And since the title.
And who did you play again? I don't run me my name. You were on the show, right? I was a
taller guy standing next to their hand. The more modest one. They bring you this film. What how do
you react? They brought me that they didn't bring the film, but they got the film to me in its
completed form. And there was this non on camera character was basically the POV of the camera
searching for a way to find his way home. Alah, what Lydia was talking about this character who
died. But it's really a search for some kind of reality confirmation that this little girl in
Romania who was actually living, actually went through to find a way out of that place. And so she
very adethily wrote this along with. She'll wrote this script that depicts that search, that search
not just for a place to go, but a new reality. And my character is Bobby, but he's not really.
He's Bobby as remembered by an eight-year-old Romanian girl experiencing a whole new world. You know,
they got this television show. The communist thought that they would see the decadence of the
West and never want to go there. And it had just the opposite effect. It opened the life that they
would never experience before. So that's what my character is going through to get back to that
life to experience. And he finds himself in a replica of Southfork that's not really Southfork.
So it's a really interesting way of depicting that art form that I think they did extremely
successful. I'm getting the high sign for you guys. And I want to spend more time with you, but I also
don't want to get beat up either. She's playing the brass knuckles on. So we have to let you go.
If you have a chance to come back by later and we're here, we'd love to have you sit down and talk
a little bit further. I want to thank you for just taking a couple of minutes with us. It's amazing.
Congratulations.
All right, here we go. Thank you, sir. I love how that has to tell you who's coming up next.
Oh boy, you ready, sir?
Do you breath? You good? I don't know. Am I? I'm asking you. You would only know
because there are certain moments on this show. When if you don't ask, it can't happen.
Because dreams come true, sir. Dreams come true. And I just got to just talk to the
man from Atlanta. Don't. All right, so we got two mics. You're going to be each have your own,
so we're good there. Where's such a buzz queue after that? No, no, no, no, no, no. This is where
it curves up because this is our third year doing the festival. And there's certain people
that she tried to get on the show for three years and it never quite lines up and then
all of a sudden the planets come into the ride alignment. Nice. Speaking of alignment.
Who are we talking to because I need everybody to hear it? I am fairer why. It is so good to finally meet
you. She's a fantastic producer and actress. Oh, and this is Heather Kafka. Yes.
Back to daylights end. Yes. Which is going to be later tonight and tomorrow. Yes.
159 tonight to midnight. There is a very short list of people that we haven't.
Devon is trying to hijack the show. Someone's touching me. It's all right. We know him. He's okay.
Devon pie. He's touching me.
Let me take my jacket. Not the first time. Probably will not be the last. Well, he already
came over and he did kiss you on the forehead earlier. So you had that go. I don't even feel that.
So now we have something in common. So I would just say there's just a short list of people and not just
because you're sitting here. Again, three years we've been doing this. Yeah. We've had at least one
person every show that your name comes up and nobody has anything bad to say about you. Oh my goodness.
Seriously. That's why people want to talk to you. It's just one of those moments. It's like,
okay, we have to talk to this woman because everybody is just talking to how wonderful she is.
We need to bear witness to this ourselves. I thought you were doing a bit. Not at all. Not at all.
It's to God every single festival that we've covered. You had a project in it. We're like,
where is she at? Because I'd love to talk. This is our third year here. We've been doing
Dallas video fest for three years. This is our fourth year this year this year. No, I recognize you.
Oh, that's kind of neat. Okay. I'm good with that. I'll take that. But daylight's end. We were just talking
to some of the other guys about it. You have my attention. You definitely have his attention. What's
in my will house? You know, of course, I live here in Dallas and Will Kaufman and I had talked
about how we could possibly work together. And then the planet's just aligned. And we, I ended up
producing, starting off producing the film. There's lots of producers on it, but I was actually
on the ground here. And I also play a character named Annabel who's absolutely the craziest character
I've ever, ever played, truly. And then I was able to, fortunately, I know a lot of really talented
people. So I was able to get Heather Kafka and audition. She put herself on tape. She was the only
one we actually saw for the role. Tell them about that Heather. She just begged. I did. I'm a real
glorified person. She basically just said, hey, I got a role. Can you be in it? No, I mean, she
told me about it. And actually, stupidly enough, I kept saying no. And she was like, are you kidding?
This is going to be amazing. You get to run around with an AK and shoot zombies and jump over cars.
There's guns. I was like, you know what? You're right. Nobody's never going to ask me to do that.
I'm not getting any younger. I'm just saying to see how you're going to out Crazy Lynn from the
ladies of the house. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, yeah. I don't want to speak for Farah, but I will say
having watched her out Crazy. Yeah. That's saying something because it is. You frightened a
crowd out of me. She's a horror as Annabelle. Well, she was hardcore in that. Yeah. Yeah. Annabelle is not
quite antrols, but she's not there. Annabelle's not with it. So she's scary in that way, because she's
in her own terrifying world. Yeah. Yeah. She's no killer. No. So again, we've heard your name
thrown around so much in the last three years. Obviously, not your first rodeo tonight.
No, no. At this point, are the nerves still the same going into a premiere or is it as a
little bit more relaxes a little bit more intense? Well, you know, I think it's actually always
intense. Luckily, we're, you know, having our world premiere here in Dallas, which is home.
So that makes it a lot easier. There's a lot of familiar faces. A lot of people not smile in when
you look at. I'm joking. Um, for those of you wondering, she's looking at calves who's
struck me to my lap. He was working Farah. That's working. Not to get sidetracked, but um,
yeah. So you know, it's amazing here. It's a beautiful festival. They really take care of
everybody. Um, they've been gracious enough to let we had a whole huge gang on the red carpet.
So it's just really not. I was going to say, we've now seen five people involved in
production in the last 10 minutes. So there was 16 principal characters. Wow. Hello. Yeah,
a lot of us. They might have just just give you your own carpet to work. And then that way,
you just so just file them all through. So if you're making a movie, my advice to you is to not have
16 principal characters. That's hard. But make it in Dallas. That's right. And again,
part of the Texas series, which is even makes it even cooler because not only do you get to
premiere it in your backyard, you've filmed it in basically in your own neighborhood. Yes, we did.
Which is awesome. Yeah, we rented the municipal building in between main and album. We locked that
up for a month, Heather. In August and August. That was by the way. That was really interesting
because you don't think about if you're shooting in a building that old because I think it was
originally built in 1913. And it's a prison. Guess what? There's no windows. Oh,
garb point. And there's no air condition. There's no air condition. Because we're shooting.
We were talking about that with the guys too. And I was like, yeah, but I want you to think about
something because maybe you're not exactly familiar with Dallas or winter sucked this year.
So with winter sucked, like it did. I know that my power bills are going to be more than my
mortgage this summer. Yeah, that August was brutal. I mean, like, there's somebody dropped it
like once a week, I think. You know, everyone was trying to like stay hydrated. Stay hydrated.
We were like, oh, it's hot. It's hot. I'm just going to sit down for a minute. Yeah, it was pretty crazy.
But you know what? We should actually shoot this August a film here and make it something like
some horror film with bugs because there's going to be a turn that's going to be. Yeah,
I'm wondering if you know the bugs. See, I'm sneak of virus net NATO or something.
See, I'm from Florida. So when I moved out here about 20 years ago or so,
I was like, from a chopper. I can handle summer. Yeah. I've been in 1986. I've been in 1986
Ford Mustang with no AC sitting in traffic on 635. You win. So when I go back home, they're like,
so what's it like? I'm like, you see this thing that makes the trees move? We're like,
what, breeze like, yeah, we don't have that. If we do, yeah, and if we do, it's just like somebody's
following you around constantly with a hairdryer. Yeah, it's just like, it's like I've stepped off the surface
of the sun. Yeah, I spent an August in Orlando when I went through basic training in the Navy in
89. And I'm like, this is nothing. That's that's that's you, mini. Florida, you get that daily shower.
You have that nice thunderstorm that rolls in for about 15 minutes and then it's like,
and then you sweat to death all day long. So especially when you're doing push-ups on a black top parking lot, you know.
Yeah, I don't know which heat is worse actually. Yeah, it's really down. But you know what the humidity is good for your skin.
I like talking like this. Yeah, I'm talking like that. It's really good for your skin.
You can just really just put it on. That's right. And leave it there. The mixture is duly. You feel
an explicit tag coming on me. Yes. Second time ever. It always happens here. What's next? What's
coming up after you finally get to get to get all of this out of your system? What comes next?
Because you never stop working. For real. She actually really doesn't. I'm, I'm, I'm so true.
Very busy trying to be busy. You know, it's one of those things. This is something you have to
work with. It's something about something. Something about idle hands. Oh, yeah.
Yeah, if I'm, I have to stay busy. I have to stay busy. I always have at least one. Is there anything
that you, oh, is this on? Hello. Is this on? Hello. Anything anything in projects that you can
talk about? You want to promote? Because you know, daylight's in you obviously, we're here to
pimped that for you. But anything else that you want to talk about coming up that people can look
forward to? Actually, I've got a little project that is, we'll be coming out here in a few
months that is on ABC. A point, don't, I'm going to sign an agreement so I can't say no. Okay,
copy that. But yeah, don't start with little. Oh, yeah, I don't want to put ABC in the little
project at the same time. Well, I was trying to be, I was trying to be, I didn't know where
they're mentioned or not. I'm not a humble. Why bother with it? Not yet. Yeah, yeah.
Say, not here. That's not to, you know, you haven't had a worry about it. I'll say, humble for tomorrow.
I'm faking it to make it since 1986. This is the, I'll bear in mind. This is the good for
you. Isn't that on CBS? I'm sorry, never mind. I don't. Yeah, hey, now. Okay, so, so that happened.
She's acting on ABC, right? Oh, yeah, yeah. Actually, so Heather works on a lot of TV shows in
Austin also. But we've talked about, we're doing a project together. We've actually written a
little bit of, actually some ideas and a few concepts. So hopefully, we can bring that to
fruition this year. And then, um, they might be some directing in the future. That'd be natural fit
and super exciting. It's time. It is time. But yeah, it's fun. So there's other movies coming up coming
out. Do you guys have your part of the Q&A tonight in tomorrow? Say it again. Do you get to be part of
the Q&A tonight in tomorrow? Um, you know, I'll stand to the side smile with all those boys talk.
Throw stuff at them when they get stuff wrong. No, I'll beat them afterwards.
Because you honestly think no one's going to ask you a question.
Hmm. That man carries a point. They might, you know, um, it'll be, it'll be interesting to see
uh, just to see the movie and to see how the audience reacts to it. Um, we're really proud.
It's really pretty. I will say that. You wouldn't think that a, uh, action adventure,
creature feature. Yeah, but people thought that Fury Road was just going to be another movie that
came and went and looked what it did. You know, it's, it's, it's that time. Oh, excuse me.
It's, that was, I'm sorry. I had Taco Bell for none, so that was just, um, but, you know,
it's, it's time that other films from other genres would get that kind of recognition.
And because you have a different kind of an audience now, too, you have an audience that
that wants those films that push that kind of an envelope. And, you know, I can only sit through
so much merchant ivory at one time. Sometimes I'd even a thing anymore. It can be.
Sometimes I just want to watch stuff explode. You know what I mean? No, I'm scared. Sometimes
you just want to. Sometimes I just wanted to run around with an AK.
Yep. Sometimes the brain, the brain just needs to stay on the couch.
As a time just, just make me watch stuff, just like explode and die.
There's a time in the place for a mirror street in Jeremy Irons, and then there's not exactly.
That's right. This is not that tough. This would not be that time. Yeah.
Would you say, notice that she said AK and that gun. Oh, baby. It's, it's not immune to
like, you know, as AK is very different. Right? Right? Sunny wouldn't have me call it just a gun.
And today was a good day. And today was a good day. All right. We're going to let you guys go and
enjoy the festival. Thank you so much. You guys enjoy your evening. Thank you so much.
You guys enjoy your evening. Thank you for sitting with us. Check in one more off the bucket list.
All right. You are listening to the clubhouse podcast. We are live at the Dallas International Film Festival.
We're in the lounge. Not a whole heck of a lecture. The echo you're hearing is us bouncing off the
other wall because everybody's up doing their premieres and their red carpets and all that good stuff.
Oh, yes. You can't read his writing at all. No, I just don't. Don's, don's doing really well tonight
because he's bringing us people from films that I've, I dissected this media guide a couple of
weeks ago, molecularly. And I saw certain films that I'm like, oh, you have my attention.
And we're about to actually talk about two of them. One of them is going to have one of
it stars coming into town next weekend. But we're not going to talk about why. And the other one is
another, another film that I'm very interested in. And I'm going to let you guys introduce yourselves
because I'm, I'm going to be horrible if I don't. All right. My name's Jeff Barry. I'm the director
and producer of Occupy Texas. Okay. My name's Gene Gallerano. I'm the writer, lead of the Occupy
Texas. And I'm the pretty guy over here. I'm Johnathan Brownlee, the executive producer and producer
of Occupy Texas. He got a haircut today. You can see it on the radio. I got my own hair. Yes,
right. And you got that. I'm giving you the peace sign. I'm saying, if I don't get a picture
with my wife before we start. I'm not seeing the movie. Whatever you guys need to do. Okay,
whatever you need to do is fine. Let's talk about three Occupy Texas. Break it down for our audience
because I'm very, very interested in this film. Why are you interested? Why are you interested?
Why are you interested? I'm curious. We haven't seen it with anyone yet. Because I'm reading
this analysis that's in the media guy. Which is about like an ex-walk, Occupy Wall Street protest
or has to go home after his parents passed away and take care of his two teenage sisters.
But what's the really interesting thing about that? I love the dichotomy here. Because you've
got a guy that spends so much time. The Occupy movement is so intense. And if you're up there,
it's in your face all the time. So now he has to come home and there's just, it's almost
goes from one extreme to another. That's because you're going back. You're coming to Dallas.
We plunked this guy down. He's got a mall hall, crazy beard. He's been living on the street.
And we put him down in the middle of Dallas. He's at the carpool lane. He's in the mall. He's at the
Aquarium taking his 12 year old and 17 year old sisters. And it's exactly that dichotomy that we
were looking to explore. What brought you to like, what made you go this is the thing we want to do?
The fact that it's actually not about any of that, it's about brothers and sisters and about a family
and it's about a family that experiences something together and they have to learn how to,
they have to teach each other that it's okay to grieve. It's not actually a film about grieving.
It's a comedy in a lot of ways. But it's about a family teaching each other that it's okay to
grieve. And by the end, that's what happens. All of these guys just as the lead is plopped down into
an environment that's completely different than anything he's understood so as his family.
Is this the premiere tonight? It's a world premiere. Because the one thing that Dallas
International Film Festival, we do a lot of these. Well, it's a good choice. I mean, we shot the film
here. The Dallas Beauty was hugely supportive of this film couldn't have done it without. So it
made sense that this is where we should show to everybody for the first time. And I love it when
you're from an area where they shoot a film because you're like, oh, I know that. There's a lot of
that tonight. Oh yeah, I'll be a lot of hey, I was on that. Hey, look at me, I can see that. It'll be
really fun. It'll be fun about how many showings during the festival. We're two. We're here tonight
and then tomorrow and then the film actually shows in Kansas City on Sunday and then opens the
Murdoch beach in a national film festival on Thursday. So the tour has begun and our Saturday
showings at 11.45. So you're basically hitting your showings and then you're off to DFW today.
There's nothing wrong with that. We might have a star's game tomorrow night before we hit
Oh, it's stars and never, both plans tomorrow, never. So we're going to be up in OKC. Stars are at A, A,
C. Yes, I do. Did you guys get to go last night? No, but I have another film playing and I was
going to try to go last night with the film. I was like, you gotta tell me the, I don't care what
happens out there. I got no score. Look up, it was all over social media day. Look up what the
on ice presentation was before the game started. I heard it's some video games. Yes, they went all
8 bit 16 bit retro video games. I think we should say that because we got a little owed to that
in our film occupied Texas. Really. In the video games, massive industry come. You will get the flavor
of that. How long did you shoot it? We were a day in New York and then 21 shooting days in Dallas.
So I'm still, it's still a pretty cram schedule, though. Yeah, I would have taken another five days.
You couldn't afford another five days. It's still with a felt rush with my mother.
And not if we had 100 days of what a felt rush. So tonight's the premiere. How are you feeling?
Feeling good. Great. Come on. Is it that moment where we're like, look, we've done everything
we can do. It just has to happen now or is it still? I had this, I had this movie premiere last night
and it was like, you know, it's all this red carpet stuff before. And then you get to the spot where
finally the lights go down. You're just sitting there and you're really just in a movie theater and then
your movie's got to stand up for itself. And that's what it's about ultimately and everyone's there for it.
So it'd be exciting to have that tonight. And I'm nervous as can be said. I was about to use an
expletive, but I'm not going to. Okay, so you guys are going to go enjoy the evening. Get ready for your
premiere. shameless self promotion. Give us websites. Give us social media before you go. So everybody
can get behind you. Sure. The film is occupied. Texas. The website is occupiedtexasfilm.com. We're
also on Facebook, Twitter and Instagram. Check us out. We'll be tweeting and Facebooking our
little tour here. It's occupiedtexasfilm.com. Gentlemen, go enjoy the evening. Thank you so much for
sitting down. Stop it, guys. Occupied Texas. I might have to find out when I can catch this film
because I do want to see this one because I read about this. And I'm intrigued by seeing that
lower line link later, isn't it? I guess this is from boyhood. Mm-hmm. And now we're by ourselves.
What the movie brothers. Go move over. There's got stuff they got to do tonight. Okay.
But we're not by ourselves because devins across the cross the hall. Looks like he's already ready to go
and he's moving towards us at this time. Like a shark. I wouldn't call that. You know, he's a star
sir. Do not do that man as a shark. He's a whale. Especially since the hockey playoffs have started.
Was it you? No, Mr. Shark. Which one? The on ice intro for the stars. Yeah. That was devins.
I haven't seen that yet. I'm not sure why you want to get home. Fox Sports Southwest has a decent
clip of it. But a couple of my buddies were sitting on the opposite end of the rink. And for those
of you guys who haven't seen it, it is a lot of the, I guess since the Olympics and so she,
the winter Olympics and so she. I remember that. Everybody is doing on ice projection as an amazing
way to, you know, give an added piece of entertainment. And it makes sense. Everybody's just gone
nuts. It's just why it's this massive white cheek. You might as well throw a movie, exactly.
And it sounds still would have been better than it was for whatever the Michael Bay. Ben
Gaussian movie was. And a great segue because devins are going to be providing music here tonight.
And we're right at music talk. And we're talking about holograms. And our first story has to
do with holograms. I don't know if you've heard this story this week. Two-plock? No. Biggie. Yes.
What? Faith Evans in her summer tour this year is going to have a holographic biggie with her.
So faith Evans is still a thing. Apparently. Okay. We think because of a biggie. Yeah. Yeah.
So they're, they're going to be doing that this summer. Yeah. No.
Are they back? They can get in it. All right. Sir, well real quick for you go.
Yeah. How long you DJ in tonight? Until they tell me to go home.
Fair enough. 30 minutes after that. I will be sticking around. I will be sticking around.
Oh, hey Marcus. Marcus Blake from that nerd show just walked in as well. One of our friends.
That's fine. No, don't. Don't do the same thing. Hey Don.
Did you locate me something to drink that would be wonderful?
I can't use a wand. I'm a little. Yeah. Grab it John.
Grab some for them if you're because they're where I think we're all little parts right now.
All right. Mr. Colone has rejoined us.
Some of your co-hosts have been down here as well. But you've brought somebody else to join us.
Well, tell everybody who you are. So my name's Johannes Hansen.
That's a little tough for most people to pronounce. So everybody just calls me John.
Okay. Fair enough. John, John. And tell us about your involvement film.
I am one of the number of producers. So I think you already got a chance to speak with Joel.
The guy who was instrumental in helping Sean get all the production done and guiding him to all the interviews and all that.
And Chris who helped him find all of the folks and kind of arranged to speak with them.
Then you had Justin here. He's worked on filmage, works at Charlie Uniform Tango,
phenomenal editor, shot some things and helped kind of shape the story along with a writer from
up in Canada. Well, I'm the guy who come on board to keep make sure that Sean does not go to
prison or bankruptcy court and always a good, always a good person to have around you.
Actually, show it to an audience someday. Like tonight, for example.
John is the guy that you do spreadsheet to it. Yes. But like the most fun you could have
doing a spreadsheet. And I did a lot with the trailer. So I do have a little bit. No, he has some creative input.
So he's got to do the board. He's my rock. That's usually my rock. Now to say, I'm ADHD. I'm all of the
place in John. We share a common humor. Boy, are we the show for you?
Yeah, right. I love it. So, so, and he's able to, I mean, through this whole process, he's,
even just the festival stuff that we've been doing. I can feel us. We are a sense of calm
because we don't have to worry about leaving his coat or his keys or anything left behind.
He's got to jack. You didn't have to jack for him. Before he's got to jack it on now.
Yeah, that was all presentation, my friend. Exactly. And we had to hit, like we're going to put it on
when you're doing the red carpet and it's like boom. And I'm glad you're back because I want to ask you
something kind of a little bit out of the, they should be over there somewhere. It should be two
two pair of headphones. Okay. So, are they not over their chambers? They said a headphone. I don't know.
Follow, follow, follow, follow, follow that one, follow the phone. He's got a big pair of headphones.
One of my favorite series that's been done in the last couple of years and stay with me for
just a minute because there's somewhere I'm going at this. Sonic highways, the Food Fighter series,
the Chicago episode alone, deals a lot with punk. Right. First of all, what did you think of
that series? Dude. I mean, that's like light years. Well, that year's, the Joe Gansser is it's the
second best documentary to feature Chris Schiffle at the last few years. Realistically, that's just,
that's mind blowingly. I loved how Grold did it. I know they're, they're talking about doing a
second one, but they're doing all of that in Europe, which I'm very interested in. He's, uh, he's one of
those people that you're, when they're at that level, you like, are glad that there's someone
representing, you know, not exactly. And he's kind of the same guy he was 20 years ago,
which is the weird thing in, in the music business that Dave Grold, he still sits behind a drum kit
and he, he's the guy from Nirvana. You know, he plays in a guy's band that needed, didn't
confine a drummer. Something, they did the, the, the garage tour where they played fans. Yeah,
I just like, even though I think when he broke his leg, the whole, and part of the reason I'm
asking this is specifically to the Chicago and LA episodes. How did you feel that they portrayed
the punk scene versus what you guys are portraying? Did you feel it was fairly faithful? Do you feel
that maybe they could have done it more justice? I think generally, not just them, but it's generally
approached with a, as in a certain light. I think the, the kind of punk that we're talking about
generally after that, because you're covering 90 to 99. Right. So it's kind of like what happened
after and really, to, I would say, a much higher level. I mean, it really, once you took the violence
and, and some of the, and increase the technicality and recording production, I think that it took
off, you know, I think what's it had behind it, where it was, I mean, that's what, and I think
about fat records is the bands were punk rock bands, but they, most of the came from metal backgrounds,
and so, and there was a lot of thought put into the production side of it. So it was like,
putting punk rock, you know, putting together the record in six days, and all that kind of
of the same stuff, but recording it well, and, you know, doing harmonies and have been bringing
back the elements that I think all pop music has. It's great when it comes from a genuine place,
those things can be very effective. You talked about how fat Mike just kind of was like just
whatever, and you just kind of did what you did. Compare that kind of access to the kind of
access that the bands themselves gave you. Was there, was there a difference in vibe there,
was everybody just like, hey man, we're just, we trust you to do it, to tell the story right,
just go do it. I think, I think I gave him a choice. I'm tearing up. I can't even paint
of harassment. And not, and not in a, like, manipulative way, but just, it was like, this train is moving,
and if you, you know, the people who, like, there's sections band strung out,
every member is strung out, talked to us, and they were excited about it, and there was a, you know,
everyone was excited about it. And that section is, I would say, the strongest in the movie,
because everything we're talking about, you're getting three or four perspectives, and you're
getting a real, you know, a much deeper understanding of where they were from and kind of their
connection with Mike and the whole thing. So, some of the bands, we got maybe one member,
we, I think we got at least two members of every band, which I think you have to at least
to go back and forth. Right. So, I think, because I didn't have any background, they didn't know,
and they do interviews all the time, and this is just the normal thing of their world, you know,
and I'm just a guy with a 5D, you know, I'm not coming in there with, you know, a super expensive equipment
and that kind of thing. So, I'm just like, anybody else, and some of them realized, I think,
what it was and really gave us a lot, and some of it were like, oh, we're busy. And, you know,
it's just the other thing. And so, you know, I think that each band was different, but everyone
was very accommodating. Let's come into their studios when they were recording albums. They,
they were accommodating to us to a degree. So, pretty awesome. And some of them were, even some
people who made a little hesitant at the beginning of the process, found their way too
you later, right? I just don't know if you told me about a couple of bands who said, you know,
you didn't get a response from them, and then, you know, a year later, into making the film,
they're like, what is our interview going to happen? What are you going to talk to us?
Well, it was a, I think these things happen in like steps. There was a, or have a great story.
If you guys want to hear a great story. Absolutely, sure. There's a lot of really
kism at moments to make this movie happen as it progressed. One was I went and started shooting,
as I think I told you guys, I went out to Vegas and started shooting with my wife. I didn't know
what I was doing, just started doing it. I used Twitter, I got some interviews, and I put it
together trailer. And, actually, when I got back from Las Vegas, the week that I got back,
the company that I was working for was putting on a showcase. It's a talent development school,
and they bring in producers and engineers to give notes and judge this showcase.
So, and I'm facilitating a majority of this event. So, I'm seeing the bad just being made the whole thing.
And Ryan Green, I keep trying on Green, and he's like, that's funny. Ryan Green
has the same name as the guy that did all his punk rock records, you know, and I'm like,
not even connecting the dots. No, not even connecting the other dots. That's funny.
It's one of those not seeing the forest through the trees kind of moments.
Just not, the worlds are so separate. It's such a different world. It's like Selena Gomez,
that kind of world. It's just, it didn't, it was in, not in my purview, you know. So,
so the week before, I realized what it is. This is Ryan Green who recorded all the first
fat record. He's the one who defined the fat record sound. He's the guy who put that
polish on the punk rock stuff that Mike went to him. He's half, he's a good chunk of the story.
And they're flying him from Los Angeles directly to me. And I'm the handler guy.
Right. And so I'm going to be, you know, making sure he's taking care of. So, he gets in and
I, I'm like, hey, I'm doing this documentary about fat records. He's like, of course, I'm
yeah. And as I'm being like this such a sweet, do it takes me my wife to launch.
Are you fighting those Chris Farley moments? Like, you remember when you did that's
paying. It's really funny because it's such a, and that's a scene is like this. This whole punk
rock scene. It's no one's on a pedestal. And if you talk to, if you just kind of, the people
put you at ease right away because they don't want it, it's uncomfortable for them to be there.
So, he just, it was like, we were like, buds right away. Like, we have a saying, he's goofy,
doorky guy, like me, puns, all it's like, we just like totally connect. I mean, he's telling
me personal, but in a bunch, we're just telling me personal stories of like, you know, medical,
you know, things that, and he's just really connected. And he's, you know, so, I got,
was there anybody that you wanted to access to that you couldn't get? Anybody that you want to
talk about public leader? Yeah, yeah. I know. I want him to hear. I don't know if you'll listen,
but I don't know what his, his media intake is, but Brett from epitaph records, epitaph and fat,
kind of, they were kind of tied together, not for very practical reasons. Well, it's a very practical reasons.
No effects was not a fat, technically a fat records band until 2003. They were, they put all their
major releases on epitaph. And fat records was maybe a comp, you know, like a compilation or a
single or things like that. So, no effects, obviously, part of fat records, but really, it was
epitaph. So, everyone ties in all the interviews. Everyone brings up epitaph. Some people critically,
you know, that are, that are on the label. And it's a bummer because we couldn't address it because
I didn't want to address anything that was a one-sided conversation. So, if we didn't get Brett
giving his side on it, and we tried, we even had a producer on call, you know, a cameraman,
on call, that we were going to pay at a drop of a hat to go if he said he was available. He kept saying,
oh, I'm not of timeings not right. And eventually, we figured it out, we could do the pressure off.
Maybe a feature at for a DVD really? Well, can I add one here? Can I dive into what's on your
poster? Please do. Okay. So, this is good. So, okay. So, one of the nice things I've
shocked, I'm sure it's talked about, you know, the way to meet all your heroes is to make it
documentary about, well, the way to get the solution about some of your heroes, so, from when you
were younger, is to try and do documentary about him too. Should we name, can we say the guys name?
Of course. Okay. No. Of course. No. Of course. No. Ben Hiesel. Ben Hiesel. Ben Hiesel is an asshole.
He's got his. Okay. So, Sean said that I didn't have to. So, I think it's a song.
Isn't it? Yeah. It is a song. No, no, no. Well, the quiz put out a Ben Hiesel in Ben Hiesel.
It goes on and on. That's pretty. He's a jerk and so on. It's up.
So, no, literally. It's a song. It's literally those are lyrics and songs.
And I love that song. And I was again. I love screeching. We saw when I was a kid.
But Ben Hiesel heard about this documentary and in his. Hold on.
I've, like, I followed him on Twitter. Yeah. That's how we found out. Okay.
Okay. So, I just wanted to put that out because the rest of this is very, no. It's very.
So, a fat wreck follows Ben Hiesel on Twitter, which is usually the first step to getting some of
these guys to talk to us. And Ben Twitter, Ben Hiesel, response on Twitter with some, some shade.
Did you use shade?
That's something I'm, something I'm trying to, start from the back of my work.
My way to what we ultimately did. He's very condescending. Is that it?
Well, this is where we can say it. Ben Hiesel is an angry man. Yes.
I don't think life has gone the way he would have liked it to be. And he seems to take it out on
everyone in the world. Well, there is Dennis Larry once said, you know, I thought I was going to be the starting center of the for the Boston Red Sox wife sucks grab out.
There's no fan. He's not willing. Let me give it. Let me give it. Let me give it. Let me give it.
He's not willing to punch. Okay. Let me back. Let's back that up.
It's out by Southwest. And I was there. I was out of the show. I was actually speaking to him before like literally talking to him.
We had a conversation because he was, he was didn't like the fact that something was going out with the money.
How the South by Southwest works. It works in a different way than a normal concert.
Indeed. It's not a regular thing. It's a showcase. It's not the same thing.
Anyway, didn't like it. He was already in a bad mood and he was going up there and just, and that's, I mean, it's not stereotypical.
It's kind of what he's known for. And, uh, someone that audience threw ice at him.
Oh dear. And then she threw it again. And rather than getting security, like a normal person.
He did not take her to the people's court. He took matters into his own community.
Back down and punched her on the face. And then the owner of the venue was trying to, like, move her, the girl away and help.
And he elbowed her and then, so he basically tore falls apart all the, you know, it's a whole thing.
And fat records is like, hey, we don't want to be associated with this kind of thing. So they kind of separated.
And he was very bitter about it and has a very, and that's why I wanted to talk to him.
Because he's probably the only person that has something that really doesn't like fat records. He actively active,
active in post, he'll do post. I mean, he's, that's why I said we can mention him because he's very vocal.
Yeah, I mean, you're not saying anything that he wouldn't say.
So we saw, so Sean follows him to try and initiate the process.
Later on, he says, well, I'll do an interview with you with you.
He wanted 500 bucks. First thing he said.
I want to save the first thing because that's what we wanted to put on the post.
No, so he, yeah, he says series of tweets trying to, uh, egg me on and to a, uh, it's like a Twitter fight.
Twitter fight. I could bring up, I think, look at them.
And Sean is a very jovial spirit.
I play dumb idiot.
Yes. So it's like, I'll do it for 500 bucks.
We really have the money.
No, no, I was like, well, no, I said, well, that's not really how documentaries work.
Yeah, all right.
You don't get any of your subjects.
But if we be willing to talk to you if you wanted to, you know, be great.
You know, so you can get rich.
Oh, that's not how documentaries work either.
No, no, this is not the retirement fund.
I was like, well, okay, we don't go broke.
Everything's on the up and up.
We're going to be licensing the songs and the whole thing.
You know, we're cool.
Do you want to, and so it, when it played out like that,
where he tried to egg me on an adventure.
I was like, uh, he's like, sounds like a real good documentary.
It's like, yeah, it's going to be awesome.
So ultimately, he kept trying to egg John into a fight,
John wouldn't bite.
So it drifted apart.
And so Ben Weasel's presence in this movie is our quote on the poster.
And the opening text in our film,
I'll quote it verbatim.
A fat records documentary.
That's it.
I'm done.
Western culture has bottomed out.
So thank you Ben Weasel.
Despite yourself.
You really gave us.
It's a great story.
It's a great story.
Listen, I'm about on tangers.
Levels.
So here we go.
We got first.
I'm able to address the fact that why Ben Weasel isn't in the movie.
If anyone was like, how come they didn't talk to him?
He's what I said about the documentary.
And, you know, and if they go the Twitter, they can see the whole thing.
So, so there's that, which is awesome.
Second of all, it's so direct.
It's a great tag.
Yes.
A fat records documentary.
He says it right there.
If any, if there was there any ambiguity about the puppets and the whole thing,
it's clarified in the first sentence.
Next is, that's it.
I'm done.
Western culture has bottomed out.
Now, to me, there's a documentary series called The Decline of Western Civilizations.
Yes.
Which is.
So there's an illusion.
Nor Efron if I'm not mistaken.
It's amazing director.
So, so there's an illusion to that, which I like because it's a documentary punk rock documentary.
And it's not like the decline.
And then when you go to the movie, you realize that that's so, it's almost like a,
it's almost like a rebuttal to that quote.
Then the movie and then the movie you're like,
but the fuck is he talking about?
Sorry, am I?
I'm sorry.
We can let that one go.
I won't do that again.
So let's just put a button on it.
Ben Weasel, if this ever gets back to you.
16 year old me, thought you were awesome.
You're five year old me, can at least appreciate it.
You gave us a really great tagline.
And I hope you find joy in life again someday.
Okay, so when the dust settles, what do you want to do next?
Oh, I have them.
Well, no beep.
You're not allowed to talk about your project yet.
We have actually have a meeting in California next week.
Oh, okay.
Hopefully, solidify what exactly would our next project is.
I was going to be more vague.
Okay.
That's pretty vague.
Oh, that is more vague.
How's it?
It's the Barney Rumble.
Oh, we are actually going to plug.
I was actually going to plug John's project.
Get a plug.
Yeah, because Miss Katie's classroom is it's a puppet based.
I'll let you go and do satirical things.
I used to well, you're producing that with John.
Yeah, Sean is producing a web series I'm directing.
I used to work for hit entertainment.
They do Thomas Tank Engine Bob the builder.
Barney, all these kids preschool age shows.
So I was so very, very, very, very deep into that world for a while.
So I did home entertainment for them.
And so that this plus fat wreck kind of inspired this.
It's like a preschool classroom with the kids or puppets.
And the teacher is an adult woman.
And so you have puppets and adults.
And they're learning about the world through a somewhat troubled woman.
Eat and pizza.
Let's say about Cuba.
So, you know, you have an episode where you learn when somebody's dog dies.
And then once about standardized testing or that terror of artificial intelligence.
So it's up and down.
And hopefully that will be up by the end of the year.
But yeah, Sean's producing that.
I figured he knows how to work puppets.
And make a successful project.
So I had to bring him a board as part of that.
He helped out not only in producer role, but he actually was a puppeteer on there.
I was.
I got, there's like a dominatrix.
I got my hand stuffed in a dog cage.
I had to bend over tree branches.
It's and hide in a couch.
I call that Thursday.
Yeah.
I'm doing that right now.
I'm really happy.
puppeteering is a fascinating adventure.
I never thought I'd take.
But I told the guys, I did puppetry for seven years.
Okay.
As a teenager, my youth group had a puppeteer.
You will see.
Yeah.
I did ventriloquism when he was in elementary schools.
It's a true story.
It is a true story.
I believe you have a puppet connection.
I do.
So our puppeteers.
Because if it's not just you put your hand in the thing and you go,
there's an art, do it.
Oh, yeah.
There's, these aren't puppets.
These are actually what we plan to do.
No, no, no, no, no.
Okay.
They're puppets.
But they're punk puppets.
Yeah.
And we like to call puppets.
That's the guy said earlier.
Yeah.
They blew my life there.
They stole your thunder.
Oh, man.
I got a few of them.
I got a few.
All right, gentlemen.
We're going to let you guys go.
I know that I think.
Are you making us leave?
Well, I think Marcus wants to talk with you.
Yeah.
It's so amazing.
I appreciate you guys.
Marcus for that nerd show.
One of one of a high quality human being.
One of our friends.
He's awesome.
He's awesome.
We're great.
We should get our time with you.
We're done.
I think we're about ready to wrap up.
Are we?
So yeah.
So we're going to wrap up our show.
And Marcus, do you just want to leave everything up while you interview him?
So you can get it taken care of.
All right.
So let's go ahead and wrap up this show.
So you're leaving.
We love you, Jeff.
Fabric.
Yes.
We're going to get in part one.
The part two's next Friday.
Part two's going to get in.
Yeah.
Well, they got to get their interview done.
And we've got to go.
I have to go home at some point.
Oh, yeah.
I think you're setting up the interview.
I'm not saying you're setting up the interview.
Oh, well, then that's all the more reason that we do because that we get to be interviewed
for a change.
All right.
All right.
So let's do it.
All right.
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I'm at fondango.
And you can email me at Don at theclubhousepodcast.com.
I talked too much on this show.
Email Don for information on how we can come to a live show.
We're going to be back here next Friday night for a later show.
The post DFS honor show, which is one of our favorite shows of the year.
You can email me.
Questions, comments, concerns.
Tell me to go pound sand.
I am Rob at The Clubhousepodcast.com.
I am Janet The Clubhousepodcast.
Charlotte Parker is on Pinterest because we are morally obligated to say that.
It's been a good day.
Yes, it has.
Yes, it has.
Join us next Friday night.
We're going to be doing two different live shows.
Pay attention to our social media for all the times, all the channels.
So until next time, for all of our guests, for Don, for Chad, for Devon.
By the way, Adrian Beltrade just signed a two-month year deal for $36 million
with Rangers extending his stay here through 2018.
There you go.
For Chad, I'm Rob, Empire.
Clubhouse is closed.
We still need a Britney Palmer documentary.
Somebody get this done!
The preceding was a sooner or later production.
Gotta go get a go!
Why?
Because I have to.