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And a man whose reaction to the movie were about to review was a little surprising.
He is Chad.
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And if I did, that would be creepy.
Whatever we do, one of these.
It's usually to review something, this is no exception.
We are here to review the new Kevin Smith film Tusc.
Starring Michael Parks, just in long Genesis Rodriguez,
Haley Joe Osmond, among others.
Basically, this is the story of a podcast running to Wallace Brighton,
who has a podcast where they basically cover things that they think are funny.
And that guy sends them a video of himself,
proving his ninja skills or not.
And Wallace decides he's going to go to Canada to interview this guy,
but due to some unfortunate circumstances, doesn't get to.
And while in the restroom at a bar,
finds a flyer for a man looking for a living companion
who will just simply do some chores around the house
and listen to him share stories.
And then it gets weird.
This story actually comes from a story that was covered on
Smodcast, Kevin Smith's podcast with Scott Mosher,
from episode 259 called The Walrus and the Carpenter.
This comes from a story in Britain, I believe,
Am I right, I don't, I guess.
Man puts an ad on Craigslist,
wants to have a living companion.
And the only thing he asks is that this person
where a Walrus costume.
And that's it.
And we're not asking much, apparently.
So that turned into a conversation that went
started to go down a very dark road
that led us to this film.
And that's as far as I'm going to go.
And before we get into it,
something that I didn't realize until after the film
was that Don went into this film,
not knowing anything about this film.
Not having a clue about what he was to see
where has chatted myself
being huge fans of Kevin Smith.
And I mean, huge.
I've been down with the Big Man for 20 years.
As this evident from this thing,
which we've said on our show many, many times
that Kevin Smith's podcasting is what inspired
us to be podcasters.
And understand this.
What I say that that is not going to jade
what we're going to talk about in any way
shape or form.
No.
I do want to start with you.
And as we talk about the story itself,
what did you think of the story line of this film?
Going in coming in cold.
It blew me away 100%.
How so?
Not knowing what is going into.
I saw like maybe a 30 second thing
and that was about it.
It was kind of in the back of my mind.
And the trailer.
Yeah.
It doesn't tell you as much.
It was a short trailer.
Very short trailer.
Yes.
I remember we can't release it.
Not the two minute one, but the.
Okay.
And I'm thinking it's just going to be kind of.
Oh.
I wanted to start with this, but it's in the film.
So I couldn't do it.
Yes.
When I'm thinking is this going to be
looking by the poster, even the poster
even blew me away from what the story line was.
The movie poster.
Yes.
The poster, if you know what you're looking at.
Makes sense.
But if you don't know what you're looking at in the poster,
you're not exactly quite sure what the one, the one
she doesn't tell you anything.
And I thought this is possibly going to be some kind of sci-fi fantasy
or something that was in my mind going in.
I know anything.
And I'm watching the movie.
And when he gets to that guy's house.
Howard Hal played by the great Michael Paul.
Of course.
Totally.
I'm thinking, okay.
It's a funny comedy thing.
It doesn't seem sci-fi like a thudaby.
But I'm following it.
It's some good labs and everything.
And seeing how the character of, you know, just a long way.
Remember from Dodgeball.
I love that movie Dodgeball.
It's one of my, you know, bad things.
But the sweet kid there.
He seems kind of like a jerk.
And then when he's talking to this guy,
I'm thinking, okay.
The worst mustache in history.
And I'm thinking this is going to go into something
where it's going to be a kind of a sci-fi thing
when this guy's telling his life stories.
You thought maybe it would be like a big thing.
Yeah.
It's going to turn to see how you would face that.
It's making a big turn.
Right.
And then after a series of an event.
It takes another right.
And I'm going.
Okay.
This reminds me of misery.
That's I'm going to say nothing.
I was boiler.
And that was kind of the consensus.
I think amongst the group of us.
Absolutely.
I know you.
I'm going.
Okay.
And then once that starts when he starts doing some things.
And so I'm going to say to be spoiler free.
Mm-hmm.
It takes another right.
So this gave me a bite of death.
Four turns on this thing.
And I'm going.
This thing is just born my mind.
It makes four turns.
But does not necessarily come full circle.
No, it does not come full circle.
I'm going left and left and left.
This is taking another turn.
This is taking.
Imagine you're lost in some subdivision.
You take a left and you take another left.
And you take another left and another left.
You're just like kind of like being in a house of mirrors.
Here's exactly.
Chad.
Boom my mind.
We're talking story right now.
Interesting concept.
Okay.
To an extent.
And then to me it just kind of.
It's it's so hard to even talk about it without giving a ton away.
I can understand that.
From for me, the story.
Kevin Smith has always been a very good storyteller.
And it was a good story.
Mark's mall rat chasing Amy Jersey girl.
Jan silent Bob strike back to list goes on and on and on and on and on.
So I was not really worried about the story going into it because even though.
Kevin storytelling has changed given maybe certain.
I'm not really sure what's going on here.
Like he puts it out there on front street.
This is what's going on right now in the story.
The waters are not very muddy.
Correct.
That was for you sir.
You're welcome internet.
You see how that works on it.
You see how this works on two levels.
You're welcome.
You're welcome.
You're welcome.
You're welcome.
You're welcome.
You're welcome.
You're welcome.
You're welcome.
You're welcome.
Well, not really because it's a cover.
So yeah, but who's singing it?
I don't know.
God herself is singing this.
Always.
Okay.
Listen more.
See it works on two levels.
Okay.
See what I did there?
I didn't know she covered this.
It's on the soundtrack to another film that we're not going to promote other films.
We're in this podcast.
But.
But again, for me, the story telling.
I wasn't worried about it.
What I was worried about was coming off of red state.
Which is a film that to me kind of meander.
It never quite understood what it was supposed to be.
But I think that was his intention with it.
This really stayed on task.
It was what it was from frame one to frame end.
I agree.
So I thought the story telling was a little tighter than it was in his last film.
Visually as we move into that category.
Visually in my opinion, the most beautifully shot film Kevin Smith has done in 20 years.
Period end of statement.
I will take that to the bank.
Don.
I loved.
When he's doing the conversation when he walks into the guy's house for the first time,
even driving up there.
Mm-hmm.
The layout of that place at night.
And they're going in there.
It looks like a museum in that house.
Going out could just spend an hour looking in each room of all the stuff this guy had on all the walls there.
You know.
The set design was amazing.
But it's totally in it.
That really blew my mind.
And how they could go from transition from one thing to the next to the next.
Like, they'll be he'll be at the house and dealing with some issues.
And then it's for the back to his girlfriend and his co-partner of the podcast.
Like, by Haley Joel Osmond.
That Haley Joel Osmond.
Yeah, that Haley Joel Osmond.
And I was just unrecognizable Haley Joel Osmond.
And do you think about a budget of 3.5 million?
That's all?
Yeah, that was the budget on this film.
So I think a lot of it.
I wouldn't be surprised when the DVD comes out if we get a commentary track.
I wouldn't be surprised if he says that was the house.
The house was the house.
Like, most of the stuff that was in the house outside of a couple of things that had to be there for story telling purposes.
Where's what it was?
It looked like almost a museum thing.
Well, for again, we guys, I got to think Dan and Ashley and everybody out like for this tonight.
A lot of the last night of this episode.
Yeah, great.
Our best friends at all.
Yeah, a total of the chat.
Visually.
I was visually impressive as heck.
You know, I'm with you.
For me, it's a hugely forward for him.
I know.
I can't think of, I mean, did he, did he change cinematographers?
Or I think the technologies come down a lot that he could shoot it digitally.
Shooting is just coming here.
Yeah.
A lot of crane shots in this.
Yeah.
A lot of three, a couple of 360 shots.
I mean, the only movie I can immediately think of that he did stuff like that was dogma.
There's a lot of crane shots in dogma.
I don't even know what I've had ahead of you if it's on to.
But I just, I felt that this was such a huge step forward for him visually.
And he, and it's most of his own stuff, too.
You're welcome, Internet.
But that then that brings us to.
Oh, my God.
I just shot chads.
Let's completely out.
That then brings us to the performances.
Please somebody tell me why Michael Parks isn't in every movie I see.
He is absolute.
You wouldn't do with no Michael Parks.
He played the preacher in red state.
He played the sheriff in from dust till dawn, which is recurring because Quentin Tarantino
loves this guy.
Yeah.
I mean, I was reading some of the trivia on this.
Quentin Tarantino is actually asked to be in the film.
But he didn't really want to act.
But he said he couldn't wait to see Michael Parks quote,
let out his inner cracking with this role.
Like he didn't do that with red state.
And this character very similar to him.
But crazy in his own way.
Yeah.
From the moment you see Michael Parks on screen, you go,
Oh, this is not going to end well.
Yeah.
He's so brilliant.
And when you see him in something like from dust till dawn,
as a sheriff, you're like, that's the same dude.
He's he's so immerses himself in a character
that you almost on a certain level believed that's who he is.
Yeah.
Like, he'll be all too one and two.
I mean, he is absolute genius.
And it is a travesty that he is not working more than he is.
Chat.
He's just one of those guys that I think is just kind of falling
to the cracks that it's going to take something a lot more mainstream
than unfortunately the last couple of movies he's been in with Kevin
to really get him noticed.
Well, I was looking at his IMDB page.
And I'm going to have to go back.
He was in Argo.
Was he?
Play Jack Kirby.
So what it says.
I've got that movie, so I need to watch it again.
I'm like, he was in that.
But he wasn't given a front and center role obviously.
And he was also in Django and Shane.
He was in smoking aces too.
What was he in Django?
What character was he?
He was the Laquint Dickie mining company employee.
Okay.
Oh, oh.
So he was on the, he was on screen with Tarantino then.
Right there at the end.
Yeah.
I mean, this guy is just simply brilliant.
There's just no other way for me to say it.
He plays unhinged better than most people.
I've seen play unhinged roles.
But he also can do that.
Very reserved.
Just real cool guy.
Well, it's just with, with parks.
At least in red state and in this, it was just controlled chaos.
Yeah.
Just in long.
He was just in long, but he wasn't just in long.
Like, I really thought he did a great job in this.
Um, worst mustache ever.
I'm going to say it.
Well, I think that's what he was.
No intention.
Yeah.
Given the nature of the role.
He's really come a long way in his acting career.
Uh, Haley Joel Osmant.
It.
That's the kid.
You know, I mean, what else do you say?
Um, Harley Mordenstein.
More in steam, who played the border guard.
We were wondering who he was.
He's the guy from Epic Meal Time.
I knew I recognized him from somewhere.
I don't even know what that is.
Uh, a very standout performance for me, though, by a, by a very young, unknown actor named
Dila Point.
Um, you're going to see probably a lot more from him in the coming years.
Is it La Point or La Point?
Um, I'm going with La Point.
He has his own Wikipedia page already.
So he was the inspector.
Okay.
Yeah.
Gila Point.
That's, that's the, the actor's name.
Okay.
So, uh, okay.
Okay.
That's this movie's Clueso pretty much.
Yeah.
And that's what we're going to leave that.
And it has someone else too.
Never mind.
All right.
Shut myself.
Gila Point.
Gila Point.
I thought you think in the other inspector.
Okay.
All right.
Other inspector would have been Ralph Garmin.
Playing Frank Garmin.
I thought you're talking about that.
They're talking to in the first a cops office.
They're not one there.
I'll shut up.
Shut yourself in a foot.
But one thing I'll do get back on this.
I, you know, put my foot in my mouth.
Okay.
We lost a will.
I lost my will.
Okay.
Was.
Okay.
Go ahead.
Go ahead.
There was some.
There was a scene there where.
There's a lot of clues that they give you in this.
That when I look back.
Oh, yeah.
It's like when he wakes up and he's in the,
He's.
He's just along.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know, and it's like, because, you know, going.
Okay.
Was that from before or what didn't.
Everything starts to make sense and stuff.
It's like, what's this?
But the movie really crimes into.
It answers the questions.
It gives you subtle hints of stuff that's going on.
But then I think it really.
When I look back.
There's a lot of things and going.
They, this gave a lot of clues in that movie.
It definitely would warrant a second viewing just so you could go back and see everything you missed before.
Exactly.
Because they don't want to get the spate spoilers or anything.
But I'll just say the T for one.
And then him polishing some object.
It really made sense.
When you look back.
You found nothing up.
But when you look back.
And there's a lot of cool little things, especially if you're a fan of Kevin Smith.
That'll be in this film.
Genesis Rodriguez who plays Ali Leon who I think is probably the,
Another standout performance for me.
She was amazing in this in her bedroom.
There is a picture of Kevin Smith's dog Shekki on the wall.
Also a scene in a convenience store with two female clerks who happened to be Kevin Smith's daughter,
Harley Quinn Smith and somebody else's daughter.
Nice little homage to his early career there, which I very much enjoyed.
I don't know that I want to have a Cisarp syrup on my pancake.
Actually, I am soon.
I was called Cisarp syrup.
Well, it was, it's Canada.
Yeah, so maple syrup.
But and what was the burger place he went to?
It was called Gimly Slider.
Gimly Slider.
Yes.
And the, the waitress of course.
The Schwalbach does make an appearance.
Who, by the way, went to one of my rival high schools.
I enjoyed this film.
And it didn't have to have all the little subtle things.
Kevin does have a couple of things that referenced hit one of his podcasts,
Hollywood Babylon.
So if you're a fan of that, you're recognized a couple of cool things in that.
And not heck of a lot of his podcasts.
He didn't reference the point.
Your reference is the whole deck of network.
I really enjoyed this film.
But which that brings us to the final analysis.
And the way we do the final analysis on this show.
We don't give you numbers.
We don't give you thumbs up thumbs down.
You start your better than that.
It's a two-pron question.
Number one, would you see this film again?
If the answer is no, then we're done here.
The answer is yes.
How would you see it again?
Would you pay a full price?
Would you go to a twilight matinee early morning?
Second run?
DVD or blue ray or wait for it on cable?
Chad, we'll start with you.
Would you see this film again?
Probably not.
Wow.
No, I'm acting shocked because we've already talked about this.
But that kind of did surprise me coming from you.
Because you used a genre to describe this film that I wouldn't.
Were you referred to it as torture porn?
Right.
Which to me it really wasn't.
And maybe my version of that is more graphic.
There's not a lot of it.
There's just a little bit of gore.
But most of it happens off camera.
Well, just the simple fact that the state that our character is put through.
I just can't be entertained watching somebody suffer endlessly.
And to me, that's what torture porn is.
I can't stand to see people get, you know,
maimed or mutilated or just, you know,
left in a state where they, you know they're in agony.
And it's just, I don't get enjoyment out of that.
It seems fantastic.
It's thick.
Third point.
Don, would you see this film again?
100%.
Okay.
How would you see this film again?
And before I give you that answer,
there's a couple of things that...
Well, spoiler free.
I did not like the last minute,
which we talked about after the show.
You didn't like the ending.
Fair enough.
But beyond that, this thing,
not knowing anything blew my mind.
Now, we'll say this course to everybody.
This is not for the kids.
100%.
There, this is a very...
I thought disturbing movie, a very disturbing movie.
It was even hard for me to watch in some things,
not knowing what was happening.
And in, you know, one of my friends,
who is my plus one there is going,
and she heard me go, oh wow.
Because you're about six seats down for me.
Yeah, there's a couple of times when, oh god.
You know, and I really don't do that in movies too often.
So, it really was disturbing.
It is very graphic.
This is not for the kids.
I did not like the last movie,
but beyond that, I loved this thing.
100%.
And I would say to anybody who kid, you know,
some people can't handle stuff like this.
Like Chad and no disrespect on that or anything.
But if you can handle something like this,
and you want something weird,
something that would just twist your mind,
go through to this 100%.
I would, I would see it again.
I think I would wait for it on Blu-ray
because I'd rather, I'd kind of like to deconstruct it a little bit
as Kevin likes to do with his films,
a red state not with standing.
That was a very bare bones, Blu-ray.
But a lot of his Blu-rays and DVDs,
he really likes to deconstruct his films,
and I'd kind of like to see his take on it
with commentary tracks and scene deconstructions.
Because this is such a,
it's a different kind of a film for him.
And it's going to be, I think, a classic for a big genre
in the movie going public out there.
You know, and a lot of people will hate this
because of the graphic of a Blu-ray,
a lot of people who can't live with Blu-ray.
And again, we got to think our best friends
out all night again.
Actually, they've seen that so much for this.
We'll learn to see this thing.
Alright, gentlemen, let's do the plugs.
Explodes, what decision in the room?
That doesn't happen as often as moment think.
Especially the way it ended up going.
But it really does pain me to say that
because I'm a huge fan of Kevin.
I'm a huge fan of horror,
but this particular sub-genre I just can't get into.
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