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He is Chad, welcome sir.
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Can you really?
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And a man who just moved into a new department and found out there is a portal
in his closet to another dimension.
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I'm going to call him Don Ford.
Welcome sir.
Me losing 18 team, dealing with time-owner cable.
That is so true.
It's not even funny.
Poor me.
I feel bad for you.
I do.
Because I just saw my universe just upgraded the software.
It looks a little different now.
It's kind of nice.
But you know, I'm so jealous.
Normally when we do one of these episodes,
we do something and this particular episode is no exception to that.
We are here to review a new movie in theaters.
Kind of.
It is the remake reboot, redo, really.
Of Poltergeist.
Before we begin.
We got to think our best friend.
The great people at Allied, Josh,
and the great marketing.
Thanks for inviting us to this thing.
They're so good to us.
They are.
They never have to be.
So Poltergeist is back.
Directed by the guy who brought you monster house.
Which was also.
He had Spielberg's involvement.
So Gil Keenan is his name.
I guess I just read what IMDB has.
A family who's suburban home is haunted by evil forces
as most come together to rescue their youngest daughter after the apparitions take her captive.
Sounds like the same thing.
Pretty much.
Yeah.
The the bearish synopsis you can get is.
Was it was it dragged net.
They used to open every episode by saying the names have been changed to protect the innocent.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So this is the dragged net of remakes.
Basically.
Yeah.
Because the.
None of the character names were the same.
The plot lines actually a little bit different.
And they actually reference the original plot line in the film.
You have to tell me that after the show.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's something if you weren't listening closely.
You didn't catch it.
We caught it just because Chad and I were sitting next to each other.
And we both kind of looked at each other like.
Damn.
Damn.
Wow.
Exactly.
If you saw the first one, you know the plot.
Go ahead.
Spielberg did the original.
Wrote the screen play.
He wrote it.
And there are varying degrees of opinion as to his directorial involvement.
They interviewed several old cast members.
I said that he was involved in directing this film a little bit more than Toby Huper was.
The original.
The other reason that they couldn't give him full director credits.
Because he was.
You got to remember this and each he opened a week apart a week.
Toby.
He just tells his name.
Toby.
The director of Texas chainsaw massacre.
And back then I guess that was just a taboo thing.
You could a director couldn't do two films.
That close together.
The parents this go around played by the great Sam Rockwell.
And also Rose Mary Dewitt.
Who has done quite a few things in Hollywood.
The kids are basically all newcomers as far as I can tell.
Kennedy Clements who plays Maddie was in Jingle all the way to.
So she's got that going for which is nice.
The older daughter played by Saxon Sharbino.
Who was in the remake of I spit on your grave.
She was also in the key for another one of so touch.
And the middle child, the son played by Cat Kyle Catlet.
Or Caitlyn.
I can't really tell what it is.
Was in one of Don's favorite shows the following.
Yes, he was.
But Joey Matthews.
Yeah, I remember him.
Big time.
So basically.
You know the story.
Carol.
I mean.
Maddie.
Well, first off.
Yes, well, has, you know, Jared Harrison this thing too.
Right.
Yeah.
We got to add him.
Because, you know, one of the other people that I recognize in this.
Exactly.
But back to where I apologize for the eruption.
And I realized Jared Harris.
So I looked at it.
He was more already in the second Sherlock.
Yes.
But a lot of people would know him from Madman.
And also Jane Adams, who was only HBO series hung.
But so Maddie gets taken through the portal.
They have to enlist the paranormal investigators.
And Jared Harris's character is actually a reality show.
Ghost Hunter kind of a guy.
That being said, let's get into this thing.
Chad.
Do we have to?
Why?
Do we want to address the bulk of the things that thing?
What is this?
I'm from Braveheart.
Braveheart.
Thank God bless.
It was driving me nuts.
The things that they changed.
We're just.
Why?
It's like they did it just for the sake of changing things.
You got, yeah, I did.
If you're going to remake something, remake it.
I think that's kind of where I sit with this.
But what is it that we always say, other than the fact that Hollywood's out of ideas
and nothing is sacred anymore, because they're just going to pillage our childhood repeatedly.
Michael Bay, I'm talking to you.
And to the best of my knowledge, this is the first Spielberg property.
I mean, that we were talking about in the green room earlier.
This is the first remake of his material pretty much that I can recall.
This is the only thing that really had Spielberg's imprint all over it that someone's had the
to try to take on and redo.
I don't know what you called this.
I don't know if you got to remake a reboot or reimagining.
I don't care.
I don't know how you label this because we talked about this when we saw the screening last night.
You could have called this anything else because you changed all the character names.
You changed everything.
You changed everything.
You changed everything.
But the portal, like that's the only difference.
Well, I mean, you, you, the tree and the TV, the tree, the TV, the clown,
but even the clowns different.
And the clown, I don't want to give away too much in case people actually want to see this.
But even the clown scene was nowhere near.
No, it wasn't.
It wasn't.
But it was almost like it was evocative of the first one.
So they threw it in there just as we call this an homage.
Yeah, maybe so.
Well, I mean, one of the many things that bothered me, many things that bothered me was the fact that
they were just moving into this neighborhood when this film starts.
Whereas in the original, Craig T. Nelson's character was a real estate broker for the neighborhood
that they lived in.
He sold more houses in that neighborhood than anybody else.
But she's got to admit the title card was cool.
If that was cool, that was kind of neat when you see it in the field.
And a lot of people probably didn't notice that.
I just went.
I saw, yeah, I just went nice and I kind of gestured into this screen.
But the thing that I think is the most critical.
Oh, mission from the original to this remake is the fact that in the original, it is mentioned
whenever Carol and that's right.
I said Carol and.
Disappears.
Talk louder back up a little bit.
So you're not spiking everything.
I'm that upset.
I want to know.
I want the meter to read how I said I enjoy my ears.
The fact that Carol and was born in the house.
In the original.
They mentioned that whenever they start investigating how to find her.
That's why she has such a strong connection to the house because she began her life in that house.
And when you take that out of the.
That's that's to me for you.
Yeah, I mean, I respect your opinion and I can see how for you.
That would be.
I don't want to use the word deal breaker, but it's in the ballpark.
For me, that wasn't as big of a deal because the way they explained it in this version.
Kind of made sense on a certain level to me.
So it wasn't like me going really dude really like that didn't bother me.
And see that's what made it bother me even more.
It just stuck in my crawl.
Like so that's that's what you're going to explain this up.
We're not going to ruin it.
But that's how they explained it off.
I'm like you had a great reason in the original.
You didn't have to change.
Right, but the way you told the story this go right.
It would have made no sense if he went that route with it.
Well, but because they had to.
There must have been there would you would have had changed back so many things to get to that point.
Done.
I thought it would be interesting to see how they tried to put the modern twist on it.
Now, don't get me wrong.
I was looking ahead saying.
I am so worried about this because when they moved to back what a year and a half.
Three times and move the release date back.
Yeah, something like that.
Yeah, I think they made it change places with spy.
I think originally spy was supposed to fill on this date.
And spy actually got.
I mean, yeah, it was always kept on me and move back, move back, move back all that.
But I was so dreading this.
And I will say one thing.
One thing I did like about this, which if you read my written review on the
Quapass podcast.com.
That's our website.
I thought it interesting where it actually showed them going into the portal and seen
Was on the other side in that world.
I didn't find it.
I actually kind of cool.
I didn't find it.
I'll give him that.
I'll give him credos on it.
My issue with it though was.
And I know it's supposed to be dark.
But I wouldn't been like to been able to see more of what was going on.
Well, rather than just the flashes you were getting.
Well, I wanted to see the detail on it.
Well, you saw when the rope goes in and in the drone, you kind of see what's going on in there.
I did find that interesting.
I'll give him that kudos on that.
But beyond that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Again.
That's what the microphone you're going to do that.
I did not find anything.
Great at all.
I enjoyed the last 15 minutes.
Okay.
I like because he.
Well, I'm just going to put it out there.
Horror is not my genre.
Never has been.
Never will be.
I've always been in the philosophy that I refused.
This is the reason I don't do haunted houses.
I refused to pay somebody to try to give me heart failure.
I've got enough of that in my life that's going to try to do that on its own.
But I saw the original one.
I was a kid.
And I enjoyed the original.
And this thing's going to make it's money.
And I'll explain why here in a minute.
There's a big of the original.
Do you believe my written review?
Well, I would start it off.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's that.
You're a brave soldier.
You're a brave soldier.
Thank you for your courage.
But still, it's as much as that did that to me as a 10 years old.
I mean, I did not expect to see what's going to happen in that thing.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I don't know that the 3D did it outside of the scene you're talking about.
I don't think the 3D is a kid.
No, no.
I'm talking about the new version.
Yeah.
Because we did see it in 3D.
Yeah.
But I don't think that the 3D even did anything for me outside of the one scene.
You're talking about.
Yeah.
I'll give you on that.
That's exactly what I was thinking.
For me, like I said, I really enjoyed the last 15 minutes.
I thought the last 15 minutes were really, really neat.
It was the hour and a quarter leading up to it.
And I was so in Chad this during the film.
Why does everybody have to move really, really slow leading up to a fake scare?
Like I was like, we get it.
Something's might happen.
Something might not happen.
Just grab the door now.
Like it was driving me literally insane like everything that the sun did because he's afraid
of everything.
And he has to approach it really, really just grabbed a door knob.
So they're trying to scare you, unfortunately, and they're doing it the wrong way.
And I'm like, dude.
And here's where is the chase and how can I cut to it?
This is the standard gauge.
I'm going to ask you this.
And you know, this question is coming roughly.
How many times did you look at your watch?
Lost count.
That bad.
First time 15 minutes in.
Then after that, you just kept and Chad, get a test of this.
I looked at him at one point.
I probably made more comments during this film.
And I've made during a film in a long time.
Yeah.
I leaned over to him at one point and go, I have an hour of my life still to deal with
in this film.
Are you kidding me?
We're 30 minutes in.
Because I thought, you know, 93 minutes.
It'll be a quick stick and move or we get in.
We were three minutes.
This movie felt like it was two and a half hours long.
And I was like, you're kidding me.
And the thing is, which I also put in my read review at the club at podcast.com.
That's our website.
In the original, they had that chemistry.
They, they were really into the roles.
But on this one, it was just kind of, and we know we're doing everybody knows what's coming.
And then on the other end, this girl did nothing to talk about Maddie.
Yeah, she was not even in the same ballpark in the same city, in the same state.
In the same country as a job that was done by the original.
She was cute.
That was all she really succeeded in doing being cute.
Even though we're here, it's like, that's it.
Yeah, but I think, I think even in that scene, they may have tried to do that
inflection, but I, I would even think if they tried that inflection, they would have realized
this, that is one of the most iconic references in film in the last 30 years.
I don't think they would have gone that.
I didn't expect them to go that way.
I expected them to play that differently, because I wouldn't want to try to try to match that.
But I thought Rockwell and Doid had really good chemistry as husband and wife.
I thought they were good.
I thought it was normal, nothing to write home about.
I didn't get some great actors in this film.
It's just like, we have to make a great film with this.
I think that's what the, in that, you could show it in the acting throughout the film on how much
they, I didn't feel that they were into this role as much as they should have been.
The only, the only member of the cast I really couldn't buy as part of the family was
was Charbino.
The eldest daughter.
The eldest daughter.
She just seemed like, I must think she did a bad job.
She, she acted, but I just felt that she didn't fit with that particular group of people,
even in the family, even in the garage scene and all that.
But she's by herself and that's okay.
I'm talking about her chemistry with the rest of the people that are supposed to be
her family.
I want my phone.
I want a phone.
I was wanting, I was wanting the house to fall on her head.
That was another problem I have.
But there was a payoff for that towards the end.
Yeah, but you know, you really don't have a lot of attachment to these people.
You don't really care about them.
You don't.
And as slow as the movie goes, it's weird because you don't feel like you get the time
to care.
No.
No.
It's just such a strange thing.
And that is the risk that you take whenever you try to fiddle with something that Spielberg
had his hands on because Spielberg's film, and I'll call it Spielberg's film, even though
Toby Hooper's name's on it is director.
It felt like a Spielberg film when you watched it.
You fully expect, at least I did.
When I watched it, because I watched it again yesterday morning, right before we saw the
screening.
And it felt like it was right down the street from Elliott's house.
The neighborhood felt like the same neighborhood.
The kids felt like Spielberg kids growing up in the late 70s and early 80s, like
all three of us did.
That's what a Spielberg film was.
It had that essence to it.
It had a flavor.
It had that intangible X factor to it that you just can't put a label on.
It was just a Spielberg film.
And you watched it.
And what this felt like to me was just your average basic B-flat.
Two thousand teens, not called for a pseudo horror film.
Yeah.
I always say not got a pseudo because I at no point during the film was I like to
I close my eyes because again, I'm not a horror fan.
Never have been never will be.
And horror films right now are the thing, but with you about to see a third chapter
in cities and you've had about 947 paranormal activities and conjurings and exorcisms.
It's a pause.
But with you, you know, you don't like horror films, but when you see something great
like poltergeist, you could get say, hey, this was, right now, I see a reason why
it's not the genre to me.
Yeah, right.
Because some people would argue that that poltergeist wasn't even a horror film.
It was.
It's not a pure horror film, but it's not sci-fi and it's thriller.
I don't know what you would call it.
I call the horror film.
I would.
Yeah.
As a 10 years old man.
If I've got to put a label on it, yes, if I got stands in front of a mirror and pulls
his face off.
That's a horror film to me or it falls in the pool and it's coming out, you know, still
towards family.
Here you are.
You know, Jason in the arguments all over again, but it was, it was a great horror film and
it's really hard to say those two words together in a sentence because they're so
few and far between horror films just tend to be their own sub genre and they're never really
taken all that seriously.
Sometimes they transcend the genre and to me, the original poltergeist did.
They just avoided stuff because this has to be.
That's iconic also.
And they did it in a joking fashion also.
Well, there's a couple of references to the original done in a joking fashion.
The one that we're going to have to talk about off air because done didn't catch it.
But the weird thing and the more I'm thinking about it, the farther I've gotten away from
this thing as slow moving as this film was, I felt like you could have added 20 minutes
and it could have been a better film.
I couldn't have taken it because there was just so many things that were just kind of,
there's one scene in particular that happens about a third of the way in after rockwell's
character goes to the hardware store.
That next 10 minutes, the dinner scene, no before that and we'll talk about what we can
tell it off.
It's the baseball?
No, no.
I kind of went, was this scene even necessary for what's going on here?
It was very, I found myself saying that a lot in this film and it just wasn't good.
No.
And I didn't want to hate the film because you know, I'm saying you're, we all really
know, and I was, I was looking forward to liking this film.
Unfortunately, I didn't get that opportunity because what we, what they may have promised
and what they delivered were not the same thing.
But I will say this before we get to the final analysis because I want to make this
point.
It's going to make a chunk of money.
Of course.
And I put the horror films do.
Well, stay with me.
And this is on my written review, which is at www.clubhousepodcast.com, which is our website.
This movie is rated PG-13.
So all the kids that can't get into the paranormal activity in the theater or the insidious
in the theater, they're going to go see this because it's a horror film that they can
get into.
So it's going to make a chunk of money.
It's not going to make Avengers money.
Let's not get stupid with it.
But this will make money.
Whether we want to believe it or not, this movie will make some money.
And it'll burn lukewarm for about a week or two because remember, you have kids getting
out of school.
Yes.
School's ending.
Some of them are in the end.
It'll make it.
I don't know that it'll make.
I don't see what the budget on this was.
But it'll make money.
It'll make money.
It's kind of money.
Well, you think it'll make the top 10, this 35 million dollar budget.
A 35?
Yeah.
Well, in the first week, we'll be in the top 10 of the weeks.
Yes.
How long won't stay?
Well, he's going to stay.
It's going to be in the top 10 of the movie.
No more.
It's a holiday weekend.
Number two, kids are out of school.
So it'll make, I think it makes 20 to 25 this weekend.
And how long doesn't stay in the top 10?
How many weeks?
What two weeks total?
It'll stay in the top 10.
Okay.
Because you'll have, you'll have the hangover thing where people that didn't get to go see
it because they maybe they went out of town with their families or whatnot.
They'll go see it next week.
They went and saw Mad Max like everybody else is doing right now.
And Pitch Perfect 2, which is doing very, very well as well.
It'll make money.
And there's one thing, you're thinking of bringing up Mad Max, which I got to see.
The remakes, I've been so worried about everybody knows how much I hate the remakes.
But Mad Max did it right because it was a totally different plot.
Oh, and Jim Jerry.
And Jim Jerry.
Mad Max is not really a remake as much as it is a continuation.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, they created the thing in the first place.
Yeah.
First is this one who has almost nothing to do with it.
Instead of paying a black to you, they painted a gray.
Instead of paying a blue, they painted a turquoise.
But it'll make his money.
Kids will go see it.
All right.
You know what it is.
Still what we thought about this.
We still got to think our good friends and everybody that all like Josh everybody.
Thanks for inviting us to that.
And if we said it before, we'll say it again.
One of the things we really appreciate about all of our vendors is they ask us to be honest.
They they they they they sell us tell us what you really think of a film and I admire that so much
because that's what they want that's they want to critic not a yes man exactly.
And believe me, you're not going to find any yes men in this room.
Remember remember the skin and how much I would not talking about that.
That's that is the movie set shall not be named.
So the final analysis the way we do it on this show.
We don't give you thumbs up thumbs down.
We don't give you stars, letter grades and one to ten whatever's our audience the empire.
They're better than that.
The way we do it to prong question question number one is would you see this film again?
The answer is no or done here.
If the answer is yes, then how far would you be willing to go to see this film again?
Would you pay full price would you go to a twilight show a matinee early morning?
Would you wait for it in second run at the dollar theater?
Would you read it for red box?
Would you wait to stream it on Netflix?
Would you wait for it on TV?
Donald, we'll start with you.
Would you see this film again?
There's only one instance, which I put on my written review at the clubhouse podcast.com.
That's our website.
Is I would see it and only recommend it.
Is at the dollar theater because you're only going to waste a dollar, okay?
But you see it on the first weekend when it hits the dollar theaters on the weekend night when it's packed.
To see it in the full theater makes a huge difference.
You watch paranormal activity at home on your DVR by yourself during the day.
But you watch it in the packed theater with everybody screaming and all that stuff and everything.
The crowd interaction would make this film good.
Barely, but only for a dollar.
That's it.
Beyond that, don't run it, don't watch it.
Rooking out, whatever.
Chad, not a snowball chance.
Would I watch this again?
Not even on a bet.
The only way I would watch this film again is if I was with a group of people and I was outrooted.
That's how I would see this.
If it became a world-feral incident like me,
if it was one of those deals where
maybe we're hosting a slumber party for a bunch of the kids that we know.
Are there people on a watch this?
And I'm like, no, I'd rather hit you with something.
You know, like, no, we won't watch this.
I'll just, just, if I get out and vote it, yeah.
But it's duct tape up from my eyes, put cotton on my ears and put my hands over.
I'm going la la la la la.
I'll be over here on Facebook for the next hour and a half.
Yeah, you'll put the earphones on and play through computer for an hour and half.
Yeah, anything would be better than sitting through this again because it's,
I wish I had the time.
You're bringing a wrestling match with thicker,
grown, horned swaggle.
You can watch an elimination chamber match with the two of them over this film, I think.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm sorry.
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