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Welcome sir.
Thanks for having me.
Oh, it's always honored to have you here sir, and it's very important for you to be here
in this particular episode because anytime we do one of these, it's to review something.
This is no exception, and in this case, you're the only one that's seen the film we're
about to talk about.
Yes it is.
We are talking about a brand new documentary called Annie.
It is the story of Pop Princess Annie Winehouse, who passed away in 2011, due to some
complications with some demons in her life.
It was directed by Asif Capadia, who you would know from the warrior.
That's the only thing from his resume that I really recognize.
He also did a Sena, which is about racing and far north, which had Shondine in it.
Really done.
I mean, we just dive right in.
This is the story of Amy Winehouse.
It's a boy Jen Xer or a Jen wire or whatever they're calling the Millennials.
I think they're calling these kids today with the clothes in the hair.
You know who she is.
She had a big hit with rehab, which really that song kind of echoed who she was.
And the chorus is that they say, I got to go to rehab and I say no, no, no.
Really, I mean, that tells you everything you need to know about Amy Winehouse, a young
lady who battled demons for years and years.
So let's start with the story, I honestly story line, but her story, did you learn a lot
from this?
Did you not learn a lot from this?
Did you walk away from it with a better understanding of her?
Tell me what you thought about the way the film was presented to you.
Before we get in, we got to think Ashley and our good friends at Ally.
We love Ally.
I didn't agree to marketing so much.
So thanks to them for inviting us to this thing.
I learned a lot about her.
I basically knew squad about her except for what you heard on Leno.
You know, like a Lindsay low hand.
How much do you really know about Lindsay low hand?
I know that she shares a birthday with me.
Yeah, but I mean, when you really think about the personal stuff, except the stuff you
see in the news, you don't know much of the real back story about her.
Right.
And it was the same issue with this with Amy Winehouse.
I really didn't know much about her except the late night jokes and everything.
And seeing her, you know, I've seen her, I remember seeing her on that Leno show that she did.
The first time I ever saw it was on Letterman when she did rehab.
Yeah.
I mean, right before that thing blew up.
And you may not agree with what she could say in the songs or the meanings of the songs,
but she could belt it out.
Well, something we were talking about in the free show.
She had that vocal style reminded me a lot of that old Nancy Sinatra mid to late 60s.
And her style choices echoed that as well.
A lot of people would think that she kind of paved the way for people like Adele, possibly for
that throwback.
Chad, your opinions there.
I agree with you totally.
She came across as like a like a torch singer that was born in the wrong decade.
Agreed.
But she was like a kind of way in a pioneer though, too, because in I'll get in this a little
bit later, but you know, she really liked the jazz.
She had that heritage in the jazz, which I got from the film, which I got, I don't know
if anybody else did, but she really had those jazz roots and had that jazz sound.
Absolutely.
And when you go into jazz, jazz bands are not used to playing in front of 20,000 people.
So I mean, she kind of paved the way where let's open this up.
That's what the gates were.
We could take this from the little club to a stadium when he really think about it, which
she did.
Now, starting on the movie, I really want to kind of get into the look of everything.
I've seen a ton of documentaries.
I love documentaries.
As do I.
Yeah.
This was different in a way because you know when they do a documentary and for instance,
let's say, you know, dusty roads just passed and they did that little show.
It showed clips of flair talk in, or whatever.
Yeah.
It didn't show any of them talking.
It was just the audio of them talking over the footage.
Interesting.
Interesting show.
It was really weird.
The first half of the movie, I would say, is what I'd call the best of any wine
houses home movies from 16 till she hit it big.
It was a ton of the personal home movies.
Now, you learned a lot about her from the early years before the fame watching these
home movies and seeing what she's about.
How far back does it go?
Just to save your high school.
How much she really starts, I would say it probably showed a year before she got that
first album.
Fair enough.
Okay.
And so you'd say teenage years on that.
Okay.
And for the back, the next hour or so, it's just the best of Amy wine houses on movies.
Okay.
But with the interviewies, people like Tony Bennett, Mark Robinson, Tyler James, kind
of talking over.
I'll get to bet it at the end on that job.
But like the people like you're saying, other people talking in and stuck.
The thing was they over did a big time on the best of Amy wine houses home movies.
How so when you say, over what?
It was too long of trying to show her background and trying to get into her depth.
They could have done what they did in that hour and 15 to 20 minutes, I thought.
It was just too much of the.
And this thing runs.
This thing runs a little over two hours.
Yeah.
So I think that's one downfall this film is, yeah, I could see Shoney's home movies.
You really see who she is, but it was just drug out way too much.
And I think I know why they did that.
Okay, which I'll get into the end a little bit later.
After that, then it starts showing the personal home movies with the national footage
you've seen.
The news reports and stuff like that when she starts hitting a big time, it shows her on
the menu.
It shows her on Letterman and all that stuff as a guest and her, you know, her rice
to faint.
Okay.
Okay.
And then you keep on sending news clips after the demon started hitting.
The home movies are mixed in with the, with like press footage and clippings and stock
footage.
Okay.
And some of the stuff gets real personal.
I mean, I will give this documentary that in a heartbeat, it's real personal.
It shows her smoking crack.
Oh wow.
Yeah.
So it shows the crack on the table.
It shows her drug down reminds so much it's not even funny.
Okay.
That part I found more interesting.
I think they could have cut an easy 45 minutes out of this thing.
Okay.
Too much of the home movies, but if they would have kept from the last half on, it would
have been perfect.
I thought.
Okay.
Here's my issue about the film.
You know my history.
You know what I've done before.
Absolutely.
It's well documented on this show.
The problem with this film, which I really did not like, it was poor Amy.
Poor Amy.
Poor Amy.
Okay.
It was, the drug problem.
It's not her fault.
It was always somebody else's fault, whether it was her husband, her boyfriend, the
fame, this and that.
Yeah.
Now, that's one thing that really turned me off about this movie was, no one said,
part of this is her fault.
Yes, there's like, there's external circumstances, but they never said, you know,
she's an adult, she's the one who took the drink, she's the one who smoked the
crack.
There's no one on it.
You don't see any footage of her with a gun or hand saying, hey, smoke this crack.
Okay.
That's one thing that really turned me off about this.
And that's why I think they really tried showing her a sweet little lady in the
first hour and overdid it to try to get this thing as like, hey, you know, she's a good
person.
Everybody else's fault.
It's not Amy's fault.
She was the victim.
Yeah.
She's the victim.
That's really turned me off.
And it showed her how she could be a real nutty person too.
Oh, especially when that's well documented in the meat.
Yeah.
I mean, you know, in my written review at the clubhouse podcast.com.
That's our website.
I put on her.
She's four cans showed up at six back when it comes to her mentally.
It was what I saw from her.
I mean, it really showed some of the backstage stuff or she went to this one show with
sold out and she's part of this multi, um, multi band show.
She goes on stage.
And I'll if you remember this incident, but she gets out on stage and it goes, I'm
not going to sing and walks off.
Really?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't, it's a well documented incident in the app and there.
Because she goes, I don't know if I want to do this.
I don't know if I don't want to do this, but she still gets on blankets there.
I don't know if I want to do this.
I can do this.
Then she gets out there.
I don't want to do this.
Sorry.
There's 65 people 65,000 out of the eyes there.
I don't want to play.
See you later by.
You know.
There were some people in a life who were always there for her to say, hey, when
you're ready, I'll be here for you, you know, but, you know, she was just
surrounded by all this.
And I don't think it really got to me as they're saying, well, just people
aren't used to playing in front of 20,000 people.
Well, that's, you know, the more people I don't find the excuse, you
know.
Agreed.
Yeah.
I, that was a real big turn off on that.
OK.
So, but did you feel that it was presented in a way?
Like, was it, did you enjoy watching it?
The first hour after the first 15 minutes, no, because it just got drawn
out of the best of Amy Winehouse.
It was kind of weird because I didn't fall into that.
What I thought it was a trap of trying to say, oh, poor her, oh, poor her.
You weren't buying what they were selling.
Yeah, I did.
And like, even show the little clips of Jay Lennel making the Amy Winehouse
jokes at the beginning of the intro of his shows, you know?
There's a lot.
Yeah, me and about 10 of the people laughed.
Everybody else didn't laugh, but because I found a funny, you
know, because I didn't fall into that trap.
And I think what this film was trying to do is trying to put her
into this realm of the gym morons, the Jimmy pages, the Janice
shop wants, all right.
Jimmy pages still alive, sir.
I mean, Jimmy Hendrix, I'm sorry, but the Jimmy Hendrix, the
Janice shop, and the Jim Morrison, and the people I did.
Yeah, the Kerko beans, I think this is a horrible attempt to try, let's
idolize her and immortalize her with all these other
greats.
And she's nowhere short.
Tony, yeah, any thoughts that you want to put into this?
Well, I think the reason that they put her in that club is that they
were all the same age.
What is that?
27.
That's 27 club.
It's just a frightening coincidence.
And as far as the whole, I really can't comment on it too much
because I didn't see it, but I know what it's like to see somebody
struggling with addiction.
Oh, yeah.
And it's easy to ride it off and say that there's that they really don't
garner any sympathy.
But when you see somebody who is so lost in who they have become and who they
used to be and you have this memory of what you wish they could be again.
And they have such a hard time getting back there.
But we've seen it happen with way too many celebrities, Robin Williams being one that
immediately comes to mind.
Indeed.
Who knew and, you know, you wish that these people would have reached out, but they
were to either afraid to do it or were to stubborn to do it.
I just think it was a mental issue with the drugs that just did it.
Well, she was wacky without their eyesight.
But that's what addiction does.
Yeah, I understand that.
And don't give me wrong.
It don't give me.
I have.
I dealt with addiction and I understand that, but I think I hated about this is it never
put the blame on her at all.
And there's a one scene at the end with the duets with Tony Bennett.
She was nervous to just try to, I don't know if I could do this in the studio, you know,
that the duet they did with Tony Bennett, you know, and he made a great Tony back.
Yeah, he made a good point at the end saying, she had one of the best voices in jazz
and history ever.
I will pair up there with a great.
And that's twenty Bennett saying that in a series of ways.
Yeah.
It does.
I learned something, but I didn't like how they tried to pass it off.
It's what I thought.
Fair enough.
Yeah.
Anything else you want to add before we get to the final analysis?
I think Ashley and everybody had allied.
Well, those guys friends in the world.
Thank you so much, guys.
The way we rate show movies on this particular shoe.
We don't give you thumbs up thumbs down.
We don't give you stars, letter rankings, one to ten.
Our audience, the empire's better than that.
It's a two pronged question.
Question number one is, would you see this film again?
If the answer is no, then we're done here.
If the answer is yes, it becomes, how would you see this film again?
Would you pay for it full price and first run?
Would you go to twilight, date time, early morning Saturday?
Would you wait for it in second run?
Would you rent it from net box, net flex net box?
Red, would you rent it from red box?
Would you stream it from net flex?
Or would you wait for it on cable?
Would you see this documentary again?
Definitely not.
No, you would never.
Then we are never done.
We're done.
Did not enjoy it.
No.
I don't know something, but I think that trying to pass the book and too much of that.
Amy White House is best to hold movies.
I know.
I thought they they bombed it.
Some people may love this, but me.
I will never see this again.
It might make a certain list.
That's all right.
Oh, yeah.
All right.
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