Special Edition WWE Hell In A Cell 2014
The Clubhouse Podcast broadcasts live from an undisclosed location as a special edition preview of WWE Hell in a Cell 2014. The hosts discuss WWE storylines including Lillian Garcia taking over Raw ring announcing duties, Mick Foley's surprise appearance, Randy Orton potentially turning face, and TNA's production challenges with recap shows through year-end. They run through the Hell in a Cell card with match predictions and grades.
About this episode
Key takeaways
- Lillian Garcia promoted to Raw ring announcing; Eden Styles (Cody Rhodes' wife) becomes SmackDown ring announcer following Justin Roberts' dismissal
- TNA has footage through November 19 with no live shows scheduled until January, requiring six recap shows to fill the remainder of the year
- Hell in a Cell card includes two cell matches: Seth Rollins vs. Dean Ambrose and John Cena vs. Randy Orton (number one contender for WWE World Heavyweight Championship)
- Total Divas viewership down 33 percent since season premiere; Sammy Zayn getting backstage support for main roster call-up
- Undertaker working with NXT Performance Center; Mickey James tweeting about WWE return
Q&A
Who is replacing Lillian Garcia as SmackDown ring announcer?
Eden Styles, who is also married to Cody Rhodes
What is TNA's plan for programming between now and January?
They have footage through November 19 and will air six recap shows to fill the gap until they return to the UK in January
What are the two Hell in a Cell matches on tonight's card?
Seth Rollins vs. Dean Ambrose (grudge match) and John Cena vs. Randy Orton (number one contender match)
What happened with Cody Barber Rary?
He left the company; he was the person Alberto Del Rio slapped
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to do when we do this is a man, we got to hang out with me quite a bit today and he'll be cutting the check for a later. He has checked. Welcome, sir.
Good to be with you, my friend. Again, live from an undisclosed location as we're getting you ready for hell in a cell. It's actually in our city tonight, but we said, you know what, no, we're not going to go to hell in a cell.
Because the Empire needs us. We're just going to go to hell in the handbook. Oh, we're already done that.
So we're live again from our undisclosed location. We're going to go through the week that was in our sports. We're going to run the card for you.
We're going to grade the card just like we do every pre-show. So we're going to start here in just a moment. You are currently hearing the official theme for WWE's 2014 Hell in a Cell from theory of a dead man's new album.
This is called Panic Room. I like those boys. I always thought that should be the official fan of the entertainer, but maybe that's this one.
No, because the entertainer's not a theory. He's reality. That's true.
L.A. just showing up to our undisclosed location. Do you need to see you here?
The official fact checker they showed Donna's here as well and your wife who's everybody's descent. Oh, we know what that sound means. We have to talk corrections.
We actually had one from last week and it starts in the form of a question. Sir, who directed the girlfriend experience? Sort of her?
Not sunshine. Did I say sunshine? I did indeed.
Steven sunshine is a composer. I was like, did he say that? Are you out of his head?
Sir, it's good to see you. I must have had the trailer for into the woods fresh on my mind or something. Very possible.
I was like, wait a minute. He knows better than you decide to do. We were also very, very tired during that episode as well.
I have to, sir. I have the comedy has already begun. Sometimes I wish to get away.
We were talking today next week's show which will be back in the nurturing bosom of the mothership. We'll be the first time we've been in studio for a regular show in almost two months. And it's hard to believe.
So it's before not a champions. So yeah, the year is flying by. And, sir, I do want to give you some advanced warning.
I want you to start, start looking through some maybe some of our special editions and iTunes exclusives. Okay. Because we're going to have to start doing our top 10 films of the year.
Oh, we're too much. Yeah. So many buttons I have to push on this board.
I get a little confused on the scared me for a second there. All right. Normally you would hear Metallica after this, but we're not going to be doing all things sports entertainment tonight.
We are wrestling intensive because tonight is WWE Hell on a Cell. So we're going to just start talking some headlines right now. If you are a fan of WWE Slam City, and well, who isn't?
Oh, you, us, everybody in the room. But then again, we are not, not the target. We're not the target demo.
Yeah. But Nickelodeon on their Nicktunes channel will start airing all of the episodes of Slam City as part of their Nick sports TV block. I believe on Tuesday nights from 8 to 10 PM Eastern.
Okay, at least they're not doing it on Mondays. Trying to overlap with their programming like they're doing tonight. Yeah, for those of you that don't know, I will actually talk about that little bit because I've got another headline to talk about that show with.
But you know, this isn't a bad deal for them. Nickelodeon is under the universal umbrella, which is where NBC is anyway. True.
And USA. So it kind of makes sense. I mean, not that I'll be saying the TV are.
If it was for them, this was this was strictly an online thing. Was it? No, it was a YouTube.
It wasn't a YouTube thing, but I don't even think it was even on the whole. I thought it was Hulu. I thought it was YouTube.
Oh, YouTube and Hulu. Okay. It's what L.A.
is telling us. So. Oh, pop that down.
What's up? There we go. Okay, that's better.
I'm having technical difficulties. That's okay. So I'm trying to get back into the swing of this.
Yeah, you were you were. So we're juggling. A little rusty.
For those of you like docking myself, Dock, I hope you're paying attention. With the dismissal of Justin Roberts, Lillian Garcia taking over the ring announcing duties on Raw. Very exciting times for us.
Because you know, Dock and I are both fans of the events and members of the Lillian Garcia fan club. No, I had no idea whatsoever. So we're a bit.
So which leads to the question, well, who's going to take over the SmackDown ring announcing? Just wait for it. Skinner don't start to show his free work.
Okay. It's all set. Monday night, we had to be surprised and surprise appearance by Mick Foley.
That was so surprised. His own daughter, Noel, had no clue until it happened. And she is actually working with a wrestling website doing some reporting, doing video reporting for YouTube and things like that.
You want to feel old? Look up Noel Foley. Yeah.
And realize when we saw beyond the match together, that she was what five or six, you ever know, maybe even younger than that. That would have to feel old. Oh, yeah.
That's all I'm saying. Donnie, are you checking it? It's N-O-E-N-O-E-L-E Foley.
Yeah, I'm watching off the reflection. We're currently watching the network pre-show, and they're giving you keys to victory for a set of wrong ones. N-O-E-N-O-E-L-E.
And there were some people in the crowd Monday night who were saying that Orton might have gotten injured in the six-man tag main events. He was complaining of a bulging disc in his back that was aggravated. But I haven't heard anything since.
He's still on the card, right? Is he on the card? Is he okay?
Are we hurting anything else? He was still moving around. Okay.
But he, I like chance that he's still on the card. So we're not exactly sure what's going on there, but we will keep you appraised. But also rumors that they may be turning him face.
After Monday night when he archailed Paul Hayman, they're saying that he's not getting enough heel heat at the house shows and at the live events that there is he's getting too much face heat. I'm okay with that. I just let him tweet.
He doesn't have to be heel. He doesn't have to be facial. Let the brother tweet.
Yeah, I wouldn't go that far. I wouldn't say about a day stone cold, but the same style. I'll give you that.
But I just don't understand why we have to, how let him be face or heel. Because the rumor is that it's going to be him going after Rawlins after this, which is what they've been teasing for the last month anyway. Just getting a notification right now from front of the show, David Razazadeh, who is going to be live at the event deceiving.
Okay, so hopefully we'll get to see what we're going to be looking for him on television. A lot of our members of the Empire are going to be at the American Airlines Center tonight. Will we get some clubhouse signs?
Can't a brother ask for something? We don't ask for much. We're trying not to.
Trying to get my computer to catch up to me here a little bit. You guys are the clubhouse. We are live every Sunday, night, seven Eastern, four Pacific.
We are your one stop shop for all things sports entertainment, but tonight we are wrestling intensive because we are getting you ready for WWE, how on a sell. One of my favorite gimmick matches. That's been for years.
Absolutely. It's not the match beyond that I'll take it. Really, it's talk a little...
I need to say what's my phone now. I'm about to say it's just going it's going off. Do people not know that we're on the air?
I'm just saying. Don't keep up with that. I just got a text in a picture from a...
Looks like it's from David with a guy in front of him who's wearing a Sean Lee Cowboys jersey, but it says he has word AJ written before. Well, Blades are... I don't know, it looks like...
Oh no, David did send that. This is epic after it. You ready to start talking a little rock?
Yes. Let's talk about it, shall we? So this deal we're doing with the riots.
From what I'm reading, we talked about this a little bit. G's three weeks ago now, that they're separating Rowan and Harper from Wyatt and they're going to bring in the ascension to take their place. Former NXT tag champions.
By the way, Sincara is an NXT tag champion now. Get out of here. I saw the picture today.
It's him and somebody else that I don't recognize. I just don't know. I mean, you can drag something from one game gimmick to another, but once.
Not twice, right? I just... I don't know the dragging this out.
It's gonna do anybody any good. It's not. And I don't think the ascension needs that their former NXT chat champs.
They're great wrestlers in their own right. Why do we feel like we have to pair them up and it's very quiet? Because TNA tends to perpetuate that storyline too?
I can maybe so. And boy, if you haven't heard what's been going on with TNA, stay with us because when we get to TNA talk, instability abounds more than normal right now. This is not exactly a newsflash.
If you think the ratings are bad now, they're probably about to get worse. And we're gonna package that for when we talk about TNA here in just a moment. Yeah, I read a story the other day when are you kidding me?
Just wait for it. Trust me. And so Orton comes out.
Hold on Orton comes out to do his promo. During that promo, because of course your intense city and the royals being in the world series. He tried everything he could to try to bail out of that promo and he just couldn't because all they were doing was chatting and let's go royals.
Like he was trying to power through that promo and there's just he should have just bailed completely on and said the heck with it. Just bring out Sina. Because that crowd could have cared less about what Orton was saying on Monday night.
And I'll tell you something and LL, you see if you debate me on this. When when Sina came out during that promo, was that the loudest pop Sina's gotten in five years? And I don't know if it was because Sina was over or they were just done listening to Randy talk.
I don't know what it was, but that crowd popped for Sina. Like I have not heard in literally years, sir. Literally.
Yeah, LL has a point and Vince could have walked out and he would have gotten a face pop. You knew this was coming? Well it's part of the show, sir.
And so we get to the the Frenchy Rousseau thing and I just want to make sure that I'm clear on this. Frenchy tears down the Russian flag off the rafters and the company has to make an apology the next day. But Rousseau super kicks a guy that's supposed to be a US soldier and we're just supposed to be cool with that.
I guess so. Because it's just an attack on the soldier, not the country. Wrestling.
You're right. You're right. It is my own bus phrase coming back to haunt me.
But come on man. It makes it hard for us to defend this thing. It's really, truly does.
And I've spent a lifetime doing it. Tell him, Sam. But we are live from an undisclosed location as we are getting you ready for WWE.
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Well, here's the thing you're going to face right now. And Don, I don't know if you saw this article the other day. Right now TNA has enough footage for impact until November 19th.
That's all they have. They have no more live show scheduled until they go back to the UK in January. So if you do the math, you're thinking to yourself, hold on hosts, there's six weeks between there and the end of the year.
So what TNA is going to do, they're doing six recap shows. This is a thing. So you've got enough.
Let's do the math this week. And what I guess that would be what? Let's see.
Two, five, seven. So they've got four weeks of footage left. So they're going to be doing recap shows to fill in the gaps between now and the end of the year.
I don't know if they're going to do them all in a row or if they're going to do two recap shows and then a new show and the two, this is a horrible idea. Yeah, your ratings are bad enough. And the products almost stomachable.
From at least from a wrestling standpoint, it's watchable. Well, it's pretty much a four-gun conclusion. They anytime you mention TNA, horrible ideas usually part of that conversation.
This is, this is a horrible idea. And I don't care if you guys do need to go do a couple of shows at an elementary school somewhere. Do something to get you enough new footage to get you through the end of the year.
You can always book a VFW somewhere because you remember back in the day when it was the holiday weeks, raw sometimes would just go do a taped recap. Right? They don't even do that anymore.
They don't take it the week before. Why in the name of all things good and holy is this a good idea? This is called circling the drain.
I mean, spikes can spike it involved here. You would almost think that spike would like hold an intervention or something. I've said it before and I'll say it again.
Spike can easily put on four more reruns of cops and get the same kind of ratings. No, huh? That's that's pretty sad, but true.
I mean, I would mind seeing that Steve McQueen documentary they did that I'd miss when it aired. This is, this is bad. Yeah.
I, I just, I don't know what to do. I don't say. That matter, what you say, they're not going to listen to you.
They, they might as well just hang TNA. I'm not just us. They're going to have to.
Yeah, seriously. Because nobody is, they're what they're going to have to do is they're going to have to when they do the stuff with the new footage. They're going to have to promote the crap out of it, because nobody's going to watch the recap shows.
And they're going to get so used to not watching the recap shows are going to end up not watching the news though, pseudo news stuff because they taped in a month ago. On another note, though, on a happier note for TNA, congratulations to Bobby Lashley. He is now 12 and two in his MMA career after winning his match this weekend.
I just wonder if they're going to put that belt on him long enough to try to make him a two sport champion simultaneously. The Bellator is going to end up, he's going to win the belt there. He's going to have both the TNA and Bellator belts.
I don't know if TNA's got that much air lifting. It's lungs. I mean, I like the guy always have never been a big fan of him as a heel, but in fact, he's not talking as a heel.
I think does him good. The fact that MVP is the mouthpiece, I think it works. And you do have the world title match this week, him and Bobby Rude.
Granted, it was taped before bound for glory, but, you know, and before we start dogging on WWE for not having their champion on the paper of the last night, bound for glory didn't either. Is that it? And if I'm not mistaken, don't correct me if I'm wrong here.
There was only one belt defended if bound for glory, and it was the exhibition title. Was it not? Oh, the diva.
Yeah, the knockouts title. Was the only title they had defended at their biggest paper, at their WrestleMania. In Japan, with a bunch of people that nobody TNA had ever heard of, because they were wrestling guys from New Japan.
Because that's how you run a paper piece. I'm telling you, have the guys that were on the card for bound for glory were New Japan guys. I literally saw the question mark pop up over your head, L.A.
When he said, I mean, I wish to God I was lying here. Basically. Rumors now that Team 3D may be headed to New Japan instead of headed back to the WWE.
Guys, the light time. Come home. Yeah, and I'm going to say the same thing to Mr.
Anderson. The street light is on. Come home.
He's he's done everything he can do to help TNA, and he can't help them anymore. No. Because I really, I love the character of Kenny Anderson.
Always have. But I think he's gone as far as he can know what's he in there. Let's talk a little bit about impact.
Done. Did you watch him back this week? Did you watch the opening?
The part with the wolves where they kept doing those fast cuts, that was giving me a headache. I mean, it was, it was, it was, it was very empty, theish. And it just gave me a headache after a while.
I was like, stop this, please. I beg you to stop this. It is good to see Gunner get in the push, because I really like that guy.
I don't know that he's a guy that can be a main event guy for you, but he has a very serviceable midcard. And he got drowned for so long. And now they're doing this deal with him in Samuel Shaw, which I guess Samuel Shaw needs to, needs the push, but there's that.
It's all I'm saying. And I want to give a shout out to a guy. I'm going to use, uh, we're going to go right here.
Because I got his theme song now. I just like EC3's theme song. I just do.
And I don't know if you notice when he cut his promo this week, Don. He, he went stewy at him on a person at a certain moment. He, uh, did I get the word to use?
Oh, yeah. He referred to whatever Brodus plays going by now as a weapon of mass destruction. It made me happy.
It just did. I don't realize that's what Brodus went. Yeah, he's going by a different name.
I don't have a Don. What's Brodus's name in, and Tyrus, he's Tyrus now. And on the back of his trunk, where the, where the funcadactal scales used to be, it says like liberated or something now.
Oh, whatever. Well, because if WWE gets rid of you, you can always come into TNA as EC3's bodyguard, because that's what they've done with the last three guys. Really?
And so he has a hardcore match with Devon. And when he hits Devon with a chair, I'm sitting here watching off the reflection they're doing. The WWE is having Ms.
TV and Damian Ms. Dow is actually co-hosting with him. I love this bit with him.
Um, but whatever he hits, whatever he hit Devon, did you see the chairs they were using Don? They were the worst plastic chairs I have ever seen in my life. They're the kind of plastic chairs.
You would see it like a banquet that's done in like a BFW haul that have a hole in them so that they can breathe that you don't break them when you sit down. And they were using those like steel chairs. It was terrible.
And we did get a mystery solve this week with TNA. Remember when MVP came in, I was worried they just kept calling MVP and I'm like, how does he own MVP, but doesn't own Montel Montavius Porter. He actually did use the name this week.
He did say my name is Montel Montavius Porter, so he does own the name too. So there is that. You are listening to the clubhouse podcast.
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We're going to keep this thing moving. Let us go ahead and talk a little bit of smack down talk. So we talked earlier about Lillian Garcia going to Raw, which left a spot open as the ring announcer for smack down.
And if you watch smack down, Justin Roberts got like, two weeks ago. Yeah, apparently L.A's been out of a loop here. Now those two weeks ago they let him go.
They couldn't come to a new contract. Which I'm not a fan of the guy anyway, didn't bother me. But with Lillian going to Raw, if you watch smack down this week, your new Raw smack down ring announcer is NXT Diva Eden Styles who also happens to be Mrs.
Cody Rhodes. And that is a beautiful beautiful girl. I'm going to say it right here on this show.
Which also gets her chance to be on the road with her husband, which is she does she just handle a lot or is she? She is African. Is she okay?
Beautiful girl. Beautiful girl. I saw him like not what I was expecting, but good on you, sir.
So we talked a little bit about total Diva's earlier. At this point tonight is the midseason finale for total Diva's because what better way to do that than during a paper view. Viewership or total Diva's is down 33% and this is the season premiere.
I'm bailed on that show. Just like survivor, I've bailed on total Diva's because I understand that reality TV isn't real. I get that, but this show is too scripted.
It's almost as badly scripted as hooking those best. I don't know that anything will ever be that bad that I've watched. I'm sure there is stuff that bad out there, but I don't watch the Kardashians.
Or honey, oh wait. Yeah, nobody's watching honey booby anymore. Couldn't be happier about that show getting canceled.
Very saddened by the circumstances that we got canceled in. Very, very terrible news over there, but yeah, but the sevurship is down 33% since we'll see some premiere. I didn't premiere during a paper view.
Do I know it did not? Because I believe it was the weekend after Labor Day. I want to say it.
And so you would have had until it was to be two more weeks till night of champions. So was there last? No, I'm going to have to have you check that on me.
When was the season premiere of total Diva's during a paper view or no? Or was there previous finale during WrestleMania? No, there previous finale was during a paper view, but it wasn't WrestleMania.
Okay, I thought it was during WrestleMania. I want to say it was like, it was extreme rules or whatever comes after WrestleMania. Also, Sammy Zayan, who as you know, I'm a huge fan of because he was El Generico and ROH, right now getting a lot of support in the backstage area by a lot of the road agents and stuff like that.
So hopefully we're going to see him on the main roster very, very soon. Bring on the push. Fair point.
So you never thought you'd hear this song again, did you? No, I did not. And the only reason why I played the Alberto Del Rio theme, Cody Barber Rary has left the company.
Does that name mean anything to you? Is that who he got into it with? That's the guy that Del Rio slapped.
He is now gone from the company. It's decided he's going to move on. Wow.
You think Del Rio could sue? No, okay. Why should he be here?
Same. And good news for you, sir. Undertaker starting to look a little healthier.
Thank God. I saw a picture of him. He is at the University of Texas football game last week with his lovely beautiful wife.
And he's he's looking like he's getting a little bit of his mask back. He's also now agreed to do some work with NXT at the Performance Center. Did you not expect that again?
I have not heard that. Don't have you heard that? Did this Michelle McCool expecting again?
Don't say she hasn't heard anything. But he is going to be working out the Performance Center, working with the young talent. So does this mean maybe he's going to start getting himself into ring shape?
It's about that. So many a 31st thing. I can say that.
And I can be calm off saying that. Because I'm good. I'm in a good place.
And you start overthinking it. And then you start overthinking it until sting shows up on WWE programming. Then I'll start overthinking it.
And I'm okay with that. I've accepted that. Is that game with drops win?
Two more weeks. There you go. Along with another game called Lego Batman 3.
It's all I'm saying. And Mickey James has been saying to people on Twitter that she is working on a return to WWE. Thank God.
Thus crippling one more piece of TNA in the only division in that company. That's worth a dog on right now. The knockouts division.
I also some interesting news I read today. A elimination chamber. Originally the story was they were going to do away with a elimination chamber, which really upset me because it's one of my favorite favorite views of the year.
And they're going to replace it with a generic thing. The first two things they're looking at right now are WWE Fastlane and WWE Fast Track. Which sounds like a ride at Universal Studios to me.
But now what I'm hearing is they're going to move the chamber to June and use the chamber to set up a title match for Summerslam. So it's kind of like the rumble for Summerslam. Makes sense.
I'm good with that. Yeah. I was I thought February for that was weird because you're putting it between the two majors.
So why not just do some of that. I'll move your storylines forward. Save the gimmick match.
You know what? That's great. I love it.
I'm on board. The more you think about the more you like it. Yeah.
And bring back King of the Ring for God's sake. I miss King of the Ring. Can't ask for too much here.
And unfortunately, I've got nothing for SmackDown. You watch SmackDown with me. Do you have anything?
No. So let's run the card, shall we? I see it's told you it's not premier during a paper game.
These are not necessarily in the order that they will go on the card. It's what I feel that is the order of importance. We start with French and Rhys Dev.
We have to stop this Rhys Dev thing. But what? Yeah.
It's kind of a double-edged sword, though. Because on one hand, we really need this part to stop. He's got to lose sooner or later.
Yeah. However, if he does lose tonight, his pushes. Where do you go with this?
Where do you go with the character? Has Lana actually done her filming for pitch perfect to yet? Oh, don't ask me.
Because I know she's in it. Yeah. I just...
I don't know. I mean, I want Frenchy to win, but my gut tells me Rhys Dev will win. Yeah.
It's just he's just going to go on this monitor. Don't agree with Squash. You're going to, you agree with that, so yeah.
I don't want him to, but I'm afraid he's going to. I just, because he'll lose all his momentum. But also begs the question, is this a paper view match?
No. Because really, this is the only generic basic B-flat match. Every other match on this card is either a gimmick match, has a stipulation or is a title match?
And every belt, but the heavyweight title is being defended tonight. I don't know. And that's a great, L.A.
says, what's the root momentum for? And if an excellent question, I have no idea. I mean, I, the guy, we really haven't even gotten really gotten to see the guy work.
Everything's been a squash. It's like watching goldburg every day. That's basically all he is.
It's just an evil goldburg. I got to pick back enough and on this. Okay, so she's already, they said they started filming Pitch Perfect 2 in June, so she could be done with her part of that.
Next match, loser must be the winner's personal assistant for 30 days. And if the loser does not comply, she must leave WWE. Brevella, Nicky Bella.
Oh, I know Nick, he's going to win this. And then every week it's going to be free. You have to do it or you have to quit.
And I'm still not saying we're not going to have the I quit match with these two. What scares me is you're going to do that at the major next month. Because it's not going to be 20, it's not going to be 30 days, but it's going to be done on close.
Thoughts. I can't really debate it. I wanted to be over, but that's not the WWE style.
They love vlogging at dead horse. And this dead horse will be vlogged at least until I just got a wonder. Do I see Chuckie Ducky quite cracked on the screen right now?
They actually have a graphic for that now. Are you kidding me? I'm not saying what you're saying.
It was not there now. What's there before? There's just no.
And you know this match is going to be real deep in the card too. I think the winners in this match will be the concession stands and the merch stands. They will be the winners in this match.
And if they have bathroom attendance, they will be the losers in this match because they're going to have to clean everything up. They're going to really work up on their tips. Davis title on the line.
How many times do we have to have this match? I'm okay with it because these two can go. AJ Lee versus Paige.
I but I think this is the nail on the coffin. I think this is the last one. I think AJ wins.
The angle is done. We move on. And it's when we start thinking like that that we always get led.
Because you've got to remember this has gone on since the night after WrestleMania. That's my point. How long does this have to keep going?
To me it's the best Davis rivalry since lead and trash. What did I just say about the WWE vlogging at Dead Horse? At this point I always says it's gimmicky and I agree with whom to a certain point at this point.
But I think this is the last time you see it. Who pairs up with who after this? Who does AJ go after next?
Who goes after AJ next? I think it's Nadie's time. Well I'd like to hope so but Nadie's the best technical female wrestler you have right now.
But I also think because of that I think total Davis is hurting the Davis division. More than it's helping out. Because you can't since you film that show so far in advance, you can't really have any major storylines happening with any of the people that are on that show.
Oh no we know if you can't put AJ on the show because you may have to see I'm punk and I can put him on WWE television. Anyway shape is full. I think AJ retain.
Sir. Because think about how long Paige held it. Didn't it wasn't AJ the night after SummerSlam?
No that's when Paige got it but how long did she hold it? Didn't she hold it until the night after SummerSlam? Yeah because that's an average AJ made her surprise.
That's an insane idea. I really believe that AJ retained for that reason. Plus who else you're gonna put it on?
That's that's what I'm asking. That team titles on the line. I'm never going to do it.
Gold dust and star dust. I never want to see them lose this per se as the usows. Look at this creepy crazy.
There is a reason that this is not a video podcast. That's all I'm saying. Things you can't unsee.
Thanks for that image folks. But I agree with you. I think Gold dust and star dust retain.
As much as I love the usows and I lobbied for them for so long to get the titles. I think it's time that we put some other people in the mix. I think it's going to be a team that I think it's going to be the ascension.
I do too. I think you're going to put the ascension straight into the tag team title hunt. I kind of, I'm of the belief that they're not going to be with Bray Wyatt very long.
Yeah, I think they're going to really abbreviate that timeline. It's almost implied that way too. I don't know.
United States title on the line. Sheamus and the Miz. I don't care.
I think this Damian missed out thing. It's hilarious. I love it.
But here's the question. Here's the question. If Miz wins tonight, do we get Damian missed out one of the little kid belts?
One of the little, the many belts to carry with them because if that's going to happen, that I'm endorsing Miz to win this match. Not the full size. Just a little one.
This is the rest of your time. It's the rest of your night. But I think the belt changes tonight.
And I think that's whenever you see the cracks and their relationships start to form. Because sheamus, he's held that belt a long time. Yeah.
And I enjoy his fine work. Don't get me wrong. But he's held that belt.
Oh, how long does he have that belt now? Well, think about how long he was gone before he came back and wanted it. He was out for a good while.
But I'm trying to figure out how long he's held that belt. It's been a while. Because didn't he beat Dean Ambrose, didn't he?
And that would have been like either at the rumble or at elimination chamber this year. He's had that belt a long time. Right.
Right. Yeah. He's had that belt for a minute.
But I think I think Miz wins tonight. I think he's trying to move that belt around. Yeah, I do too.
Intercontinental championship on the line in a two out of three falls match tonight. Two out of three falls tonight. Dolph Ziggler, Cesaro.
This one moves. This one moves too. Because if you think about it, Cesaro and Miz have kind of switched spots.
I think both of these titles moved tonight. I think Intercontinental and U.S. both moved tonight.
You think the other two stay where they are? Yeah. But I think both of these titles moved tonight.
I think we are overdue for a true Cesaro title run that lasts more than a day and a half. Because this guy, you need to push this guy. I think he could be your next top heel in the company.
And we've got to start dating for Russell and getting ready for WrestleMania now. Don't wait until the rumble. The rumble should be where the angle actually heats up.
But you should be simmering it between now and January. Well, Roman's got to come back first. We don't know when he's coming back.
So Shameless has had it since it's, you know, what's before Extreme Rules? What, what, that was the last, uh, next the last paper view. You know, that was Extreme Rules because payback was after that.
So he's been there for five months now. Better part of the next month. Yeah, that's way past time for that thing to be.
You also have two hell in the cell matches tonight. First one is your hell in the cell grudge match. Seth Rollins, Dean Ambrose.
You put these two on the card. It will be the match that steals the card. When you have guys that know each other this well and work this well together and you put them in a match like this.
Make sure you have an empty blighter beforehand because you're not going to want to Peter in this match. You know, this is the match you want to make sure you're glued to your seat because you're going to, you're going to rip the seat off the floor. Rollins wins.
Rollins wins this. That's what I'm saying. I'm going with Dean.
So we're going to disagree on that. With with the eventual collision course between Rollins and the next guy we're going to talk about. Don says he agrees with me with the collision course between Rollins and a guy we're going to talk about in the last match of the night.
He has to win this match. L.A. says that he thinks Rollins is going to blow off.
He thinks Ambrose is going to win and Rollins is going to kind of blow it off as like whatever. Because there's nothing riding on it. If it were a title match, I would agree with you.
But since there's nothing riding on it, it means nothing to have maybe wins or loses. I mean, that's a fair point. I just think that it's given, given where I think the storylines are going.
Rollins has to win. But the thing about Ambrose is he can lose. He's got so much, so much momentum right now.
If he loses it does he doesn't lose any momentum. So again, he's not out anything either. And in your last match of the night, hell in a sell match for the number one contender ship or the WWE World Heavyweight Championship, John Cena Randy Orton, with the rumors of Orton turning face and going after Rollins, this is why I think Cena wins this match.
Do I want to see Cena wasn't here again? No. But I honestly believe that if Orton wins tonight, you can't do the angle with Rollins.
You have to have that, you have to have Orton lose for that angle to work. And you also can't do this Rubbered face turn either. Yeah, you can, because he'd work face against Rollins.
If he beats Cena though, no, Cena's going to win the match. He goes on to face Lesner. Oh, okay.
Orton loses turns face goes after Rollins. Okay. Orton had to win in order for the, okay, no, no.
Orton has to lose in order for that program to work. Okay. Because you can't have Orton, you can't have your number one contender and your money in the bank winner, feuding against each other.
Because there's nothing for either one of them to get. Okay. Yeah.
Orton would already be the number one contender. So there would be nothing. Now, do I see them going maybe at some, at a survivor series where his Orton versus Rollins for the briefcase?
I'm in on that. Because then what you can do and you can really screw that storyline up. You announced that that's what the match is going to be.
The Monday before survivor series, he caches in. So there's no briefcase. When loser draw.
Do you think they would ever do that though? Give me the book. Give me the book.
Because I think that would be awesome. You book it that way. You guys with me on this?
No, see, I don't think you understand what I was just saying. Orton loses tonight. Goes after Rollins.
They make a match at survivor series for the briefcase. Rollins caches in the Monday before survivor series. So that way Orton can't get the briefcase.
When loser draw. I don't think they put the briefcase online for anything though. You never have before.
Okay. Once once we did because Edge got injured. That'd be the only one.
No, because I Anderson got injured. And that's when Edge got the briefcase. Okay.
So now that we've gone through the whole card because we're getting close to time. Write the card. Great to card right now.
Sir, please. I'll give this C plus. Don.
Be minus. LA's agreeing with him. I'm going to say a solid C.
I think this could be an average pay per view. I would grade it lower if it were a major. But I think the fact that it's not a major.
I think you have potential person greatness in this. And I'm going to leave some room for improvement. Uh, right now it looks like we're going to have a match between Mark Henry and Bo Dallas.
Because he wants you to pull me. Uh, I'm not even going to repeat out of there. So I'm looking forward to this.
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