The Clubhouse – Episode 11

The following is a sooner-or-gator production. No one's, no one's, no one's, no one's. Good morning!

Yo, stop, are you all ready for the jam? I said are you all ready for the jam? Yo, jeep, kick it.

Drums, please! It is Friday night. It is 7-0-1 of the East Coast.

It is 4-0-1 on the West Coast. It is the 10th of October in the year of our Lord 2014. The clubhouse is live and on the air.

On a Friday night? I haven't done a Friday night in a really, really long time. It is season 5.

I don't have numbers for you because I didn't make a run cheat. But trust me, it is season 5. I can guarantee you that.

Probably episode 17 or 18-ish maybe? New Marically? We're in the two 70s, I think?

Welcome. We welcome you no matter where you're listening, whether you're live right here on you stream with us, whether you're listening on our archive or whether you subscribe on iTunes. We don't care how you listen, we're just glad you're here.

My name is Rob. I am the executive producer of this rodeo and we want to thank everybody for being patient with us. We had a couple of weeks off, had some things to take care of, but if things are back to abnormal, so we are good.

We are live tonight from the glass half full at the Alamo Draft House in Richardson, where it all begins again as Vince McMahon once said. Because we are back to where we started. It is Dallas Video Fest 27, last year's Video Fest was the first time we ever got to do a Video Festival, and they were so gracious that they asked us to come back.

We're doing multiple shows over the next week and a half from the Video Fest. Let's me introduce you to a couple of the characters you know and love so well. To my right is a man always dressed to the nines.

More so than normal tonight. He's out dressed me, and I'm okay with that. He is chapped.

Welcome sir. More so than normal, really? You know, we're in the studio, you're not dressed as...

I love rocking the tires off this up. You love rocking roll. I don't know.

Also joining us directly in front of him is the official fact checker of this show, and a man who got his iPhone 6 before I could get my iPhone 6 Plus, and I have an issue with this. You may know him as fun, Don Go, but his mom I named him Don Ford, I'm going to call him Don Ford. Welcome back sir.

Where are you? You're over here. Well, thank you so much.

I mean, my birthday's on my knee. That's why I got the Apple iPhone before you. And they happy early birthday to you, sir.

But we're back at the Video Fest. This is... And you guys know me, I'm on the air for probably a total of 10 minutes during this thing, because I'm getting people on the air.

You're fixing to be running around like a chicken with a tank of up to the Empire. I'm here. I'm going to be around, but you know, I'll be here for the Empire.

But can I just say we're starting, we're starting off big. Oh, I always do. We're starting off big.

We're... Usually you would lead up to a guest like this. You know, you'd have the comedian before ping Floyd.

We are going straight to the main event. We're not even going to waste any time because we've got a guest sitting here. The guy sitting across from me right now right here at the Alamo Draft House in Richardson come on by and see us, seven central and belt line for the first part of Video Fest.

This weekend is here and we're going to talk more about it moving around for the first time a little bit. But joining me is the man. When you talk Dallas Video Fest, you talk to this guy Bart Weiss.

Welcome to the show, sir. Welcome. Before we get into anything, Video Fest, I have a very pressing need that I need to talk to both of you.

Okay, sure. On October 27th, I will be able to purchase iPhone 6 or iPhone 6 Plus and I cannot figure out if I really want the bigness of the plus or not. Well, I've got mine.

I ordered mine. Mine's on order. It doesn't ship until next month.

And so I got the 6 Plus and then I saw Don 6 and I'm like, this thing's going to be the size of my phone. That's the regular. That's not the big one.

That's the regular. That's the regular. That's not the big one.

That's the regular. That's the regular. That's the regular.

That's not the big one. Mark, just try to wipe himself upside the head with it. Welcome, sir.

Thank you for having us back. We're so excited to be here. Thank you so much.

I appreciate you coming out here. Not really opening night because we opened two nights ago. Yes.

I would love to talk right into that thing so everybody can hear me out better now. Much better now. Okay.

I want you to talk a little bit if you would about what happened Wednesday night because this was a first for Video Fest if I'm not mistaken. Well, in many ways, it's the first and we've done many programs of live music with the silent film a couple years ago, we did man with the movie camera with voices of change, which was an incredibly inspirational night. But we went to the incredibly large venue, the Dallas performance hall with the beautiful beautiful hall.

750 seats. Very intimidating to try to fill up and we rock the house. The Dallas Chamber Symphony did an incredible, incredible job and interpreting a really, really beautiful film.

You know, for Hitchcock fans, everything you love about a Hitchcock film is in this movie. And yet it's a silent film. The lodger.

The lodger. And what I really sort of forgot about was how much German expressionism creeps into that early silent film. It really, really does.

You see all these windows that could be straight out of Calgary and you see so many things that are just, you know, the sort of beauty of the silent era and all that great stuff mixed in with all of the kind of suspense that you come to see later on, mixed in with, you know, the language of silent film. It's really kind of an amazing thing. And it showed a lot of people that I've heard people call him kind of a one trick pony with the whole thriller thing.

I'm like, then you haven't seen the lodger because it really shows the range of him as an artist and to have that live orchestra there with a whole new score. Yeah. That was just, it was, it was thrilling to me on multiple levels because as a musician myself, you know, like they talked about it in the media roundtable, if you screw up, okay, go back to bar 14.

You can't do that. The movie is rolling, son. You've got to roll with it and they did an amazing job.

It really was, it was inspiring. I totally loved it and I know that everybody there had the same sort of thing. It's like you're watching the film and then you kind of creep down and watch the auction and then you go back and forth and it's kind of like watching a football game at AT&D Stadium and I'm looking at the screen and I'm looking at the field because I've, and you're, you know, I thought I was the only one because I found myself getting so enthralled in what the orchestra was doing.

I was like, oh, wait a minute. There's a movie on it the same time. And the percussionist, my guy, he played like, amazing, like 12 different instruments right and all over the place and, you know, probably that was written for two percussionists and he did it all himself.

And just the dynamics, the acoustics in the room, I love that room. I love that room so much. We were there for earlier this year for another film that was showing there for a different festival and I can't say enough good things about the room itself.

It's not, you know, there's some places where you feel kind of, you know, it's like you can breathe a lot and as a man of size, that's, that's something that concerns me. But sitting in the seats where are very comfortable, you had room to breathe. Everybody was great.

Talk about addressing the crowd when you came out in the beginning. How was that for you to be in that room on that night talking to that huge room full of people? Well, the other thing is that I'm not used to having a spotlight.

And so, you know, I really, you know, I was a rock and roll drummer a long time ago and I've forgotten what it's like to talk to an audience and not be able to see them because you're... Yeah. They did darken it down pretty bad.

You're blinded by the light. I mean, it's totally what that line is all about. But the really cool thing was that, you know, we got a guy who did an incredible Hitchcock of Person A's.

That was... I was going to ask you about that. Who introed you.

Right. So I was able to have Alfred Hitchcock introduce me. So it's like, that's a pretty cool thing.

And you had the picture of you that was parodying the Alfred Hitchcock Presents thing, which was kind of neat. A lot of great press coverage has been coming leading up to this weekend. I saw a great picture of you.

I guess it was in California where you were holding up the film or even was it in front of the code. Oh, that was in... That was by the bridge, you know, that was...

Oh, by the New Bridge Downtown. Yeah. For some reason, I saw Golden Gate in the background.

I was always going... Because you go all over the place. Yeah, I try.

So you do a lot of traveling, looking for films to add to Dallas video fests. One of the things we talked about in the media roundtables that we did a couple of weeks ago. And thank you for having us out for that as well.

Oh, thank you. I'm going to put you on a spot a little bit. Okay.

You got a lot... How many have filmed screening over the next week and a half? If we include the two from the last couple of nights?

Somewhere around 150. Wow. Maybe more.

Maybe less. I'm not sure. But that's about there.

Is there one you're looking forward to? I wouldn't say more than any other one, but one that you really think is going to be the one that you really want the people to come see. Well, you know...

Present company excluded because we have a righty director that's joined us. That's playing Silent Partner right now. Well, okay.

So, I want you to put your hand up and look at it and say, which one of these fingers don't I like? I saw that one coming in a mile away. I've been catching up on 24, so the last season of 24 there, that kind of plays a role.

So it's a little close to me right now. I'm not going to... I can tell you, there's one film that to me sums up a lot of what we do and why we do it.

There's a film called Starship Throwers. It's a documentary that it follows like three people who like take it upon themselves to help feed people. There's a teenager who creates these gardens and has inspired gardens all over the United States.

There's a guy in... Gosh, I forget where it is, but someplace where it's really cold. Minnesota.

Right. He's a retired teacher and he goes out every night and he feeds people and he's got refrigerators full of sandwiches. It's just incredibly inspirational and a guy in India.

That's right. And to me, here's the thing. When you watch that film, it combats in every one of us.

The cynicism of, you know, I'd like to do something, but you know, one could one person do. One person can't do anything. It's like there's so much bad stuff in the world and you watch this film and you say, you know, one person can make a difference.

Absolutely. And I really believe, deep down, that the films you see at our festival help you make a difference in the world. When you see them, you understand, you have empathy for people, you've never met, you see the world view of things that are totally unique and different and so my thinking is, you come to the festival, you be inspired and you go home and you don't watch cat videos.

You go and you look for better things. My wife might argue with you on the cat videos. I don't know, but there are things out on the, that you can watch that can really inspire you and change the world and make you think differently.

And one of the things I'm finding as, as I hate to use this phrase, as I'm getting older, I'm enjoying the documentary more and more and more and more. I'm going and I'm seeking out documentaries and maybe it's because part of me knows that Hollywood's kind of Hollywood itself out for a while. And I like seeing true stories about how people are making change and how people just, the fascination in people's lives.

And like you talked about Starship Brothers, we saw that trailer at the media roundtable and I was, I'm like, I'm in, and because people say one person can't change the world, but one person can inspire another person and that person can inspire another person. So technically one person can change the world, but we have to have that one person. And I think we're seeing a lot more, especially in recent years, of stories like that, of like, you know what, you can go out and do something.

The whole journey starting with a single step by day. Exactly. And to me, there are two reasons, and we have more documentaries this year than we've ever had.

Really? Way more. And a lot of them just go through some things that I saw that I really were inspired by.

But I think they're two major trends that are kind of intuitively obvious. Cameras are cheaper, smaller, and so you can connect to people a lot easier. And I think the other end of that is that Hollywood films are so full of special effects that they've removed themselves from reality in a kind of really profound way.

And I think that documentaries show a kind of, you know, truthiness that resonates to our culture and that we sort of want to see. And I love how you said that because that's going to transition us into something else I want to ask you about. This year's intro.

That's going to show before every film, every documentary. We saw it Wednesday night. You were gracious enough to show it to us at the round table.

I loved it. I thought it was kind of, and I don't want to ruin it because I want people to see it. I want them to make their own judgment.

As you said the other night, I want you to take from it what you see in it. And what you talked about there kind of ties into that. And it's a, talk about the young lady that did that for you.

Okay. So Courtney Ware is, she's a great filmmaker in Dallas, actually there's a film of hers we're showing in the festival and she's working on another film. And she's just, you know, one of those people who you're going to hear an awful lot for them in the years to come, she's incredibly, incredibly talented.

And so the film is a kind of vacillates back and forth between this woman in a studio where these special effects are happening and as she's kind of walking out into the forest and it kind of moves between the real and the digital world in an interesting kind of way. And what's really wonderful about it is, if you come and watch program after program every time you watch it, you'll see and feel it very differently. Which is something that really kind of is great for me.

You know, I really stress over all of the little things, the design of our posters I really love. And that shows because the workmanship is so great. Yeah, we get wonderful people and they just do amazing things.

I mean, today on the internet, I was looking on Facebook and somebody posted the intro that we had from like 20 years ago that was made by DNA, you know, the guys who did Jimmy Neutron. Really? They did this thing called, King, it was a mashup of King Kong and Big Text.

It's called King Text. And King Text. Mark that.

No problem. No problem. Is running around Dallas, say, you know, and he's like stepping on people and then he grabs and he goes up to the big building with the lights, right, and the helicopters are spinning around.

Somebody put that on YouTube? Yeah, somebody put it on YouTube. So it's been around for a long time, but it's, and we had David Lowry did an intro for us one year that is also really beautiful.

We, I had a high school student from Green Hill doing intro for us. A local private school here in Dallas. Yeah.

We have people who listen all over the world, so sometimes we have to remember that because I forget. And I got him a crew with a big crew, a great cast and a red camera. And she's got this big crew of people and usually a high school kid like with all that like would fold onto the pressure, but he was awesome.

I went to this shoot and he was totally in control and it's just, it's just a very beautiful thing. Okay, I'm going to do one more thing with you because I know you've got a lot to do and I don't want to keep you too long, but let's, let's do the shameless plug-in videofest.org is the website. Right.

Videofest.org. Lots of information there. And just sort of the scope what we're doing this weekend, we're here at the Alamo Drafthouse, which is really wonderful on Monday, which is Columbus Day.

We have a Native American film at University of Texas at Arlington in a beautiful new 4K theater. They've done a lot of beautiful work down there at UTA, all the brand new buildings, the new arenas and stuff. Great down there.

But this 4K theater is awesome and by the way, that's where I teach. That's right. I forgot about that.

You are correct. I forgot. Wednesday, we're going to be at the South Dallas Cultural Center and Wednesday, we're bringing in Charles Burnett, who's an incredibly inspirational director who made killer of sheep.

And if you've never seen that film, it's just an absolute classic. And then Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, next week, we will be at the Angelica on Mockingbird and then Monday, we sleep. And we'll be down at the Angelica next weekend as well.

We're hoping to get some time down there and we'll, cool. So I hope to see you then. We're going to let you go greet your guests.

Thank you so much, Bart Weiss. The man, the man, Dallas Video Fest 27. Thank you so much, guys.

Thank you for being and enjoying the festival and we've already got another guest line up, which is even better. Howdy, joining us right now, Rebecca Rice, writer, director, we need to talk about Alec tonight. And we do need to talk about Alec.

We're going to talk about it because we're all about shameless self-promotion on this show. Great. Well, Alec is actually the film and what it represents and what it tells people really is way beyond shameless self-promotion.

It's a journalistic piece that focuses on events that happened here in Dallas, July 29th through August 1st. There were two things that happened concurrently. The first was the annual Alec conference in Dallas at the Hilton Anatole.

And the Alec is, that's an acronym. Alec stands for the American Legislative Exchange Council. And Alec has been around for 41 years and a lot of people are unaware of how this organization with its big political donors really influences our democracy and is buying our democracy.

And the people behind Alec are particularly the Koch brothers, Charles and David Koch, big oil and gas people, big coal, big corporations, and they bring in legislators from state and federal level to these meetings where they create model legislation that they want to see passed. And then they send these legislators back to their states and to the federal government to get these laws passed. And now models of Alec legislation that everyone will recognize, particularly in Texas today, are the Restrictive Voter ID laws.

That's a big one. Okay. And we just saw a federal judge, a federal district judge in Dallas or in Texas rather strike down the Texas Restrictive Voter ID laws saying they were unconstitutional.

This essentially a poll tax and disenfranchises particularly people of color and young people for whom it is more difficult. It makes it more difficult for them to vote. Yeah.

Facebook lit up the other day. Yes. Yes it did.

Well Alec is also behind privatizing schools, privatizing prisons, the restrictions, trying to create restrictions on the EPA that would, you know, get corporations out of being restricted by environmental regulations. And all of these laws and more like them are really, they're designed to allow corporations to make as much money as they possibly can to the detriment of actual people. And they don't want you voting.

So that's why these voter ID laws are happening all over the country. I would ask what brought you to this film, but you're very passionate about it. So I think that question's already asked itself.

Well, now I'll tell you what happened. Oh, I'll go there. There's more, please do.

Yes, there's more. How I got involved in this film is rather interesting. A dear friend of mine who is a political activist here in the Dallas area and she's also an actress and she's in the very end of the film, she is an Alec expert.

She invited me to the second part of what happened during July 29th through August 1st here in Dallas. And that was a series of protests and educational events sponsored by move on, Texas, CodePink. It's another politically active organization and others across the state of Texas and nationally to raise awareness of what Alec is, what they do, how we can counteract what they do.

And mostly it's raising awareness so people will know, get out and vote, get politically active, don't let them take your vote, don't let them steal your democratic voice. So I was invited to come to the first night of the protest and I naively asked if I could bring my video camera. Well, I got there.

I went a little early because the first night of protest, the Tuesday night, July 29th was out on Market Center Boulevard out in front of the Hilton Anatoll. And it was supposed to start. I think it was at six o'clock.

I went a little early and I had years ago, I had worked AV at the Anatoll. So I knew the building pretty well. So I parked at the far end of the parking lot, took my little camera because as Bart said, cameras are getting smaller, faster, cheaper.

Yeah, the technology is moving so fast out of you and you can not only can you shoot these things, you can shoot them well. You can and you can sneak into a building and not look like a filmmaker, which is what I did. So I went to the far end of the Anatoll and I just made my way through the building and low and behold, I came across the Alec registration desk and I clandestinely started shooting some footage.

They didn't know I was there and there were a lot of security people around. By the way, Alec is a very secretive organization. There was no press covering any of these events.

The Alec meeting, the protests on the street, the events that happened to counter Alec, events that happened all week, no publicity whatsoever. Not even in the Austin American statesmen to state that, to talk about the fact that Rick Perry was a speaker. Which for our people that are not from the area, the Austin American system is the major newspaper in Austin, in the capital of Texas.

And their governor was speaking at the headliner at the Alec conference in Dallas, in July. So, at any rate, so I ended up down there with my intent to just go hang out at the protest, participate, shoot some footage. But by going in the building and then shooting some of the registration desk, I accidentally and didn't realize it until I got home, got some footage of Rick Perry posing with a big corporate donor in front of these huge wooden carved elephants.

If anyone's been in the Hilton Anatoll, they have some beautiful art down there and they have these two, like 20-foot tall carved elephants. And of course, the Alec desk was right behind the elephants, so they like that prop a lot. So when I got out of the building and I went down to the protest line down on the entrance to the hotel, and I went, there was a police officer, Dallas police officer, there were a lot of police in the area, a lot of police cars there, and a huge patty wagon.

I don't know if they had planned to take us all away or what. I'm not sure why that huge vehicle was there, but it was. So I get down to the protest and I introduce myself and shoot a little footage and then I'm done.

So I'm going to go home. So I start walking back to my car and I'm stopped by the police officer and the security guard from the hotel. Oh dear.

And they said, who are you? And I said, well, I'm, and what are you doing here? So I'm here with them.

I just, you know, I told them I'd shoot a little footage of the protest and what they're doing today. And I'm getting ready to go to my car and get home and I said, well, you can't come on to the property. You have to go back down there with them.

And I said, well, my car is on your property and it's on the other end of the lot here. And I said, well, were you going to have to be escorted to your car? So they escorted me to my car and made sure that I left the property.

They didn't know that I'd been inside already shooting. Oh, wow. But now I think, because I kind of played like I'm a little tourist walking around looking at things and had my, set my camera on a table and shot, well, they're about to find out.

They are. So has this been screened at all or is this the first time that it's been screened? This is the first screening.

Part of the voices heard compilation tonight at 7 o'clock. Yes, it's the last film in the series tonight. Voice is heard.

No, I literally finished the film, shot those four days, shot the counter-alloc protest, the counter-alloc educational events, which happened in various parts of the city, including SMU and the Pan-African connection, which is near Fair Park and in the African-American section of town. Of course, SMU is completely opposite of that. And then at a place where we had a lot of people on Wednesday, July 30th, labor unions, teachers unions, a full day of educational orientation of what Alec is doing, how they're trying to privatize the schools, to starve the public schools so they fail, then you can have corporations take over schooling in the form of charter schools and things that we're already seeing.

Right. So now, I do see that at the end of the compilation, there will be a Q&A. Will you be a part of this?

Yes, I will. Rebecca Rice will be there tonight. We're here live at the Alamo Drafthouse in Richardson.

That compilation starts in 34 minutes, and you're the, how long is your piece? Mine's only 17 minutes, and I'm going to start getting it out on the internet after this event, because we have it. Okay.

That's going to be my next question. For an election coming up in three weeks, I really want to urge people to vote. Alec does not want you to vote.

Big corporations don't want you to vote. They want to control our democracy, and they want you to feel like you don't have a voice what you do, and I just want to encourage everyone to vote, and if you want to learn more about Alec. I was going to say, give us the shameless plugs, give us the websites, give us everything you want to give us.

Check out AlecExposed.org. A-L-E-C-Exposed.org. A-L-E-C-Exposed.org.

A-L-E-C-Exposed.org. A-L-E-C-Exposed.org. A-L-E-C-Exposed.org.

Okay. Any other social media that you want? Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, anything.

Anything you need people to follow? Well, if you want to follow my YouTube channel, Rebecca Rice Channel on YouTube. You can see this film there.

So just Google, Rebecca Rice Channel on YouTube, and it will come up. I specialize in films for non-profit, doing this journalistic kind of project is something that just fell into my lap and I'm really delighted that I got to do it because it's the kind of thing I love to do, something that can actually make a difference just by helping to inform people. All right.

We hope things go well for you tonight. We'll hope to see you maybe later on. Tonight, that's part of the voices heard compilation, seven o'clock.

Right here at the Alamo in Richardson, belt line and central. It is the actually technically night three of Dallas Video Fest 27. Thank you so much for stopping by.

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Yes, he is. Because you have the car. Yes, I do.

And she couldn't drive it anyway because she's British. Well, she can still drive. But she's got a lot of British.

And she can't drive. She doesn't have a license to drive. That's a fair point.

She might drive on the wrong side too. There you go. Right now, we've got two new guests joining us.

You know what? I wrote headlines. We may not even need them.

But to say, cavalcade of stars. And we're not even 30 minutes in. We're going to introduce them one at a time currently in front of me.

Kathy Bible is joining us. Make sure I get the right button. I think it's that one.

Director of the Glass Owl. Welcome to talk right into that thing if you would. So everybody can hear you.

Hello. There you go. Be all over like a Harry Christian on an airport traveler.

Because they have one right here. Also sitting next to her. This is Tim Taylor.

Welcome, sir. Hey, guys. How you doing?

Welcome. We are well. Good to see you.

So let's talk to Kathy first. Because I kind of want to bury the lead a little bit on this. I know.

Because I know where you're going with that. Because, you know, the official, the Justin Timberlake of this show is probably going to freak out. Yes.

So we're going to bury the lead. Kathy, you're here with the glass owl. Let me get back to where I need to be.

So I can try to talk intelligently about this thing. If that's such a thing as possible, I make no guarantee. I don't know.

But we'll try. I can say, be right on top of that thing. So that way everybody can hear you.

Okay. There you go. Much, much more glitter.

All right. Glass Owl. Tonight, 7 o'clock.

Also part of the voices hurt compilation. So we want to make sure you get there in time. Tell us about it.

It's a short film. It is a based off of the script that I wrote actually for a competition. Called Jamison First Shot.

And it was basically a competition to write a script that would be. The winner would be produced by Kevin Spacey's production company and Star Willem Dafoe. Oh, well, that's that.

So I sent this in and thought, well, there's one that's going to get lost in the million other submissions. And I forgot about it. And then a few months later, I got an email saying I was shortlisted with six other scripts.

Nice. So. At that point, that's a winner.

That's a winner. That's a winner. I was like, oh, my God.

I'm going to quit my job. I'm going to move to Hollywood. I'm going to be able to tell my boss to kiss my- Something or other.

Yeah. Like I've always wanted to. So.

But unfortunately, I did not come out on top of that one. So that was little heartbreaking. But a little later in the year, I had an opportunity to hook up with a gentleman named Evan Connelly, who's a DP, who was looking for a creative project.

And I'm like, well, you screw it. I'll make it myself. It'll be just as good as you know.

There you go. And just like we talked about a minute ago, the technology has come so far. And you can.

You don't have to be a millionaire anymore. Exactly. Yeah.

This was what we called an ultra-no-budget film. Ultra-no-budget. Yeah.

Kind of like this show. Pretty much. Exactly.

God. So how long is the film? It's 10 minutes.

10 minutes. Okay. I mean, now we're all, we're stepping all over each other here.

It's like a bad first date dancing in junior high. But let's join you. Tim is in the film?

Yes. Yeah. You can say that.

I can't. Are we making an assumption here? No, I am actually in the film.

It's a pretty good ensemble cast. It's a lot of funny character actors. And yeah, I happen to be one of them.

I happen to be one of them who, you know, he did a small independent film that Charlotte might have enjoyed. It was called The Hunger Games. Made about 13,000 worldwide.

Did not do very well. I felt very bad for them. Yeah.

Not one of my brighter moments for me. You're doing what we got to do, right? So what brought you to this?

Well, it's kind of difficult when the lady comes to you and says, hey, I've got this script that's really funny. I really think you need to do the role. It was written for Kevin Spacey and Willem Dafoe.

But I'd really like you to step in. And all by the way, I'm married to you. You better do this day.

I'm moving. I'm like, okay. I don't like sleeping on the couch.

As the lovely and talton Mrs. Irving likes to say, it's in the contract. There you go.

There you go. So, yeah. So, you know, Kathy and I have been married for a while.

And you don't turn it down. You just don't. No, no.

And I'm glad I didn't. The film is very funny. I'm very proud of it.

And it's making the rounds of all the film festivals right now. It's doing really well. And we're so thrilled and honored to have it be a part of a video fest this evening.

So I'm reading a little bit about it here. I almost busted out laughing just sitting in front of my microphone. And I had to catch myself.

Guy breaks into a house. He only speaks in depression era language. Yes.

And it's modern times. Oh, yeah. Yes.

So it's like Edward G. Robinson in 2014. Yeah, it's basically like a time frameless.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, see. Yeah.

Exactly. I'm in. As you can imagine, the cops are completely baffled because they're modern day.

And so they call in a very old individual. And Mr. Berkey, I assume.

And he's able to at least try to translate it in a hilarity. At least he embraced the description of his. I think when Kathy put out the call, the casting call, she said, I really need an old cute.

Wow. Wow. Yeah, definitely.

And he nailed it. And it's not even that moment of he's standing right behind me. No, he is standing right behind me.

They just forwarded your mail to under the bus, Mr. Berkey. Now, one of the things that we're seeing a lot, especially at film festivals, is we're seeing a lot of these short films that start to catch a little bit of fire and, no pun intended, and wind up as full length features.

Right. Is that maybe the intent for this or is this kind of you sticking your toe in the water and then seeing where it goes from there? I think it's more sticking my toe in the water.

This isn't really, doesn't really have the legs, I think, to be a feature. It was just a fun short film I did. I write, I'm more of a writer than a director, really.

So I'm working on some, a couple of feature length screenplays and some other things than the works as well. In kind of the vein of this style, or you just kind of just writing whatever comes to mind and seeing where it goes? Yeah, that's usually what I do.

I always say I write the idea I have. And most of the time it's a comedy, that's just the way I lean. Sometimes I get like, I get a lot of twilight zone ideas too.

Which leads me to the question. Which leads me to the twilight zone. We're not crossing the stream.

That's scary to me. Which leads me to this question. Where did this come from?

Because I'm reading the synopsis and I'm like, I'm in. But how did this happen? I guess.

I was actually, I kind of had this character from a, sometimes things get kind of swapped around. And I had this character from another piece. It's kind of intrigued me the idea of like this kind of, like, totally out of time, criminal that kind of came in.

And everybody was like, what's going on? So I kind of had that character in mind. And it was another little piece that really didn't go anywhere.

So when I was trying to come up with this script, I just kind of took that character and made another little story around him. So it's all kind of a rich tattoo history, so to speak. Where within the voices are compilations?

Do you know where you lie in that two hour timeframe? I do not. Not a specific time.

I just, we're hoping for either the end or the middle. We hate the beginning. You want, it's that whole, and I don't know maybe if it's just because I've, I've spent my adult life in this town.

But it seems like living in Dallas, people love the words fashionably late. And it drives me insane. Like, if I go to a concert, I'm going to by be there when the lights go down.

I don't care who the opening act is. I paid for my ticket. I'm going to be here the whole time.

But unfortunately, the acts are usually fashionably late. That's also a fair point. But at least the audience should be there for them when they get there.

You would think. That's all I'm saying. So the voices heard compilations tonight.

The glass owl. You know what? I love different things.

I love it when somebody brings something different to the table. And this is definitely bringing something different to the table. It kind of, it almost reminds me of that.

One of my favorite episodes of the Batman animated series where they had the great ghost in it. Where it was this anachronistic character. He was also in a break in the bolt too.

So anyway, as soon as I read this, I was like, that kind of reminds me of that episode. I love that episode. What everybody has said about this film is they, I mean across the board, it's clever.

That's the thing that it kind of stands out because it's not what you would expect. From one female writer and director, it's not about a struggling woman. You know, terrible trauma.

What this is is just something that you wouldn't normally associate with a little 10-minute film. And it really does stand out for that reason. And this is Kathy's actual second film that she's done.

She wrote a film called One It's Your Time that won a lot of awards last year at Film Festival. And that's what led to this second film. Was that here as well?

Or is this your first time at Dallas? This is my first time here. One it's your time.

Actually, I wrote it was directed by somebody else who had it made. It went to several festivals in Oklahoma and a couple in Dallas and did pretty well there. So are you from here?

Are you? Yes. Okay, so I don't have to apologize for the weather today.

Oh, no, no, no. It's been a drop 25 degrees tomorrow. It was what we're being told.

Yeah, no, that doesn't surprise me at all. When I was driving over here in my car said 108. I'm going, really?

Really? Tell you what, the subject matter of One It Your Time is definitely up our alley, sir. Please, sir, you have it up.

It looks like a kid that likes to play pinball. Really? Yes.

Pinball makes me happy. I know. Pinball makes me very happy.

We're kind of obsessive about pinball. Texas pinball festivals coming. Yes, you guys are being on set because we had a vintage pinball machine that I got to play for gosh hours on Andy.

Which one? What was it called? Gorgar.

Gorgar. I have that on my iPad right now. Really?

I have that on my iPad right now. That is so cool. That is one of my...

Gorgar. Gorgar. You just killed me again.

I just need to see the film. Because I think you'd love it. Yeah.

The director was really worried about like the half-naked woman in demon on those... Yeah. You're going to get an art rating?

It's like a... It might be an NC17. Because it was one of the first pinball machines that really had a lot of speech in it.

Yes. Recognizable speech. It wasn't just robotic voice.

It was like really scary voice. And it always reset everything if you went... If you lost the ball and I used to frustrate me.

I would say that we would take ten minutes to click. Click, click, click, click, click. Okay.

Shameless plugs. Give me social media. Give me websites.

Give me everything you can. Because we want everybody to do scope. See if they can't make it here tonight.

Okay. You can find it on facebook.com forward slash glass owl movie. You can also find me on Facebook's justCathyVibl.

You can follow me on Twitter at CathyVibl. It's Cathy with the C. And just the Bible.

And you can just like the Bible. I just like the Bible. Yeah, people always say it's going to be difficult.

It's like, how is, oh, no, it's just like the Bible. And. Funny.

Mine is Tim Taylor actor, keeping it very simple. TimTaylorActor.com. The only thing I've got coming up that I can talk about, I've got a feature film.

An Italian director, it's his first American film. And it's called Wasteland. And it is the first film that I have a lead role in.

It was a major movie that will be coming out at the beginning of next year. Nice. And it is, wow, I've seen the trailer.

And that said, and the trailer is pretty freaking epic. You know, and how is that as an actor? Because you film it.

And something I've always been curious about. Curious about if I can learn to speak English. That would be great.

As an actor, you're there. You see it filming. It happens.

But you really don't necessarily see it until it's on screen. Like, how does that differ for you as an actor? When you, like, you see the trailer, and you're like, I remember that, but do I remember it that way?

It's amazing because, especially if you're spending a long time, like, on Hunger Games, I was on set for 17 days, but they shot for six months. So when the final product comes out, I'm only on screen for maybe a minute and a half with a dialogue and all that. But we shot 17.

Wow. And in the case of Wasteland, I was on set there for two weeks, but I'm one of the leads. So it's really, the contrast is this is so odd.

But, you know, when you do see it, it's kind of like, okay, I remember doing that kind of. Let's just say there was a lot of festivities going on in Tirlingwood, Texas, where you shot that. Fair enough?

Because there was nothing else to do on the Texas, Mexico border other than drink a lot. Drink Margareza and eat chili. There you go.

Exactly. You know what? There was a lot of that going on.

I mean, I didn't have an internet signal there, the entire time we were there. Okay, now that might freak me out. Yeah, you wouldn't, you can handle that very well.

Also, the silent partner joining us on this particular segment, Ralph Berkey, we've got his email address here. Ralph at Ralph Berkey B-U-R-K-E-Y dot com. Represented by the Rose Talent Agency.

Rose Actors Network at Cheez-Out. Please do. Please do.

If this film does go to some of the other festivals that they do have awards for best actor, best actress and all that, I think Ralph is a shoe in for a nomination. And you'll see why when you see that. Oh, yeah, he was fantastic.

I really, really impressed him. I could not have asked for a better. Yeah, he was an, for an old cute, he nailed it.

Yeah, he nailed it. He's surprisingly calm during this roast. Okay.

There you go. Will this be available for digital download? Will people, like iTunes purchases, anything like that coming up?

After it makes its festival run, we will probably be releasing it for that news. It should be like April of next year when it actually finishes its run. Right now we're in the middle of the festival.

Oh, okay, excellent. Well, we are looking forward to hearing great things. I don't know if we're gonna be off air in time to go see it, but if we are, we're gonna pop in for sure.

Kathy Bible, Tim Taylor, Ralph Berkey, it is called the Glass Owl. They've got all the plugs. You know what you need to do.

I'm gonna watch this some way, some shape, some form. I'm gonna find it because I am intrigued. I love the one sheet.

I love the one sheet you have for this thing. Show it to me. It's pretty sweet.

The owl. Nice. Yeah.

No expense for spare. No, we actually had a very talented graphic designer named Jack Lions who did that for us and he just nailed it. I so cool.

I gave him a vague idea if I want kind of a thuggy owl and he gave that to me. That's it. Yeah.

Awesome. Thank you guys so much. Go enjoy your evening, please.

All right, let me go back to where I am. You are listening to the Clubhouse Live. Before we have our next guest, Don, are you ready for our presentation?

No, before we have the guest, we have to do our presentation. Yes, do you how are you prepared for that? Okay, cool.

You can have a seat, just give us one second, sir. All right, so Don's joined us real back. Wow, I can't.

Real back today. It's been a long couple of weeks. What are they putting that water?

Pull in. Don, can you out here? Yeah, okay.

Don's back with us, the official fact checker of this show. And this past, I guess it would be Tuesday, right? Was Chad's birthday.

And so we have to make sure that we present him with his birthday gifts on air. Don, I'll let you go ahead and go first. Thank you.

He's a good Lord. Look at that high class wrapping paper. Well, let's see the doubts.

Morning news. This is your bow. It's written in Magic Marker.

And look at the section, the paper. What section was on outside of this? I have no idea.

The obituary. Oh, see the funny guy. That is unfortunate.

I blame music. You ain't the first and you ain't gonna be the last. Apparently, he wrapped it in the entire Sunday paper.

Well, you know, because the thing is, I know what it is. I didn't want you peaking. We'll do one now and we'll do one after this next segment.

We'll do mine after, which is probably going to be anti-climacic to compare to what I know is in there. Oh, geez. Oh, my God.

I know. You have to pull that out that way. Yeah.

Visual history of Batman for the 75th anniversary. Oh, I look good for 75. That looks vaguely familiar.

That looks a lot like the sketch on your shelf. That kind of does, yeah. We'll look at it later because we have another guest to talk to.

We'll do my gift in a little while. Thank you, Don. It'll be like my birthday.

Happy birthday. Thank you, my friend. They're not a problem.

Joining us right now, because we are live at the Alamo Drafthouse in Richardson for the opening weekend of Dallas Video Fest 27. I want to thank them for having us out here. We're going to be doing another live broadcast next weekend for the final weekend of the festival longer than normal this year, which is great because it means it's growing.

Joining us right now, I got to get my papers in order here. I really hope I don't screw this up. Is it John Alphone?

Sounds good to me. Okay, so fine by him. He is a director of the Arnold Chronicles, which will be also screening during tonight's, I lost to my place tonight's voices heard compilation.

Just read a little bit about that, but you know, your baby, I want you to talk about it. Tell me about this, how long is the film, first of all? Well, it's 13 minutes long.

Okay, fair enough. And it's a 1950s period piece about two American Marines who wander aimlessly through the American Southwest, circa 1955 in search of meaning. Wow.

You got all that in 13 minutes? We got something in 13 minutes. So what really kind of brought you to want to do this short film?

I'm very, very interested in, I always like to talk about the motivations that directors have and what brings them to projects and what attracts them to it. Sure, my father was a Korean war veteran. Okay.

And he used to tell me a bunch of stories when I was younger about his experiences following that military conflict. And this short film is really a homage to his kind of travels throughout the American Southwest. It's kind of got a beatnik kind of feel to it.

Okay. Yeah, so that's what inspired all of this. How long did it take you to shoot it?

Well, we shot it in Shreveport, Louisiana. And I guess that was a crazy 48 or 72 hours. I don't know, it was all kind of a blur.

It was all very strange too. We had, I was living in New Orleans at the time. I live in Houston and we had five crew members and cast come from New Orleans.

We had two grip and electric from Nashville. We had two actors come from Austin and there was an actor in Shreveport. We all met, it was very stressful and very magical.

And how long ago did you shoot it? We shot it last summer. Oh, so you've had time to really kind of get it to what you want and you didn't have to?

More or less. I mean, you know, the editor producer is in New Orleans. Like I said, I live in Houston.

So we've gotten what we have. We call it a work in progress. And actually, the plan now is to take this and return it into a 30 minute pilot, which I would like to shop for television.

Absolutely. All right, well, that's going to leave me to do another question then. I love it when you can feed me and I can form questions from it.

Perfect segue. You say you want to develop this into a pilot? That is correct.

Everything's even, okay? Okay. Where does it air?

Well, how about on the history channel? Oh, okay. I mean, this is, you're asking me some speculative question out of the blue.

So why not? Yeah, I just, you know, if you had your brothers, that would be it. And would it be something that you would want to do is more of a, maybe like a half season kind of show or would you want like a, like a 22 episode season to work with or just as a mini series?

There's a couple paradigms. One is, unfortunately, you're reading my mind. I kind of love the TV series Walking Dead.

I don't know if anyone... Chad's a big fan. Huge fan.

I'm a pretty huge fan myself. I feel like I'm too far gone to start watching. Not at all.

And I think the cool thing about Walking Dead is really you can start on season three episode five and you'll be fine because it's got this weird kind of non-linear narrative to it. It's just each episode is a standalone episode. Now was this, did we just miss the season premiere?

No, it's Sunday. It's coming Sunday. Yeah, I will definitely be watching it.

So yeah, I would love to try to, I mean, actually Rebecca Rice is the one who gave me that idea. Oh, really? So yeah, her on just a little while ago.

Yeah, so, you know, the concept, the script was started being written a while ago. And so it was just, we shot this piece and now we've got it in the can, as they say. And so it's evolving and people have told me it's more commercial than other things that I've done.

And it's definitely taken some steps forward much more than some of my other projects, which I would be happy to talk about. You're more than welcome. We're all about shame with self-promotion.

Promote a way, sir. Well, I worked, shall we? Okay, I worked on another film for 10 years called Substance, which has barely gotten off the ground, even after all of that time.

And it's a slacker road movie with lots of music. It's about an indie rock band from New York, traveling to the South by Southwest Music Festival. Nice.

It was branded in Dallas for three days. No money, no resources. They'd be friend, three new verish scumbags who get them embroiled in an underground drug ring.

The band goes on the run to New Orleans. I've been working on that for years. So this whole other project, the Arnold Chronicles, was materialized because I could not raise enough money to do substance.

So that's a back story. Is this, so is the Arnold Chronicles, some of you're kind of hoping we'll springboard you to substance? I mean, honestly, I've been in this industry a while and I'm learning that, and I find it very tragic.

It puts a tear almost in my eye. But, you know, people like success. And it's heartbreaking to me, but they don't really want to get behind.

People don't want to take a big risk. Right. And I find that strange.

I don't even know how to... We've gotten to such a safe zone with the way Hollywood works now. If it's not, you know, if you can't guarantee me 150 million, yeah, if they can't see the world, they're free to the risk.

To me, with the danger you run with that, as you get into this rut. And I am all about films and television series and media that kind of bucks that trend. It says, you know what, look at this, this is good too, and you need to pay attention.

I think that's our culture, though. And I don't know why we're here. And there's definitely some positives, you know.

I will definitely say I've watched two of the Iron Man movies. They're good. I watched Superman, Man of Steel, I believe.

Yes. That was excellent. So there's not, it's not all bad.

Oh, no, I agree with you there, but I think that there's just not enough risk anymore. Risk and or, I don't know, our culture is just really keyed into, you know, tent poles. And I don't know why that is.

And it's just an interesting phenomena because my favorite films are from the 70s and very few of them were tent pole films. But that's a philosophical question. I think you can say, well, we'll put philosophical elements into Superman, Man of Steel.

And Zack Snyder was the director of that. He's a phenomenal director. Oh, I love that.

I will never diss that movie, because it's just so good. But right now he's got a pass with me because of that movie. Yeah.

Because Superman Returns was so bad. And Chad argues with me all the time on this. It had good elements to it, but by and large, it was something you'd rather forget.

So with all the criticism that people were giving him about what he's doing with Batman vs. B Superman. I'm good.

I'm good, because he has a pass with him right now. But that is definitely an example of, you know, it's not really risk averse because there's so much money on the line. But I mean, they're not going to take that money and make 10 films.

I don't know. It's a strange phenomena. And, you know, it's been going on for a while.

And I will give a lot of props to Stanley, because he suffered and struggled for many years. And now many of his ideas are coming to the screen. So it's all, but I mean, the culture wants these 10-pole movies.

That's my opinion. And as Kevin Smith said on a podcast recently, I'm so glad I lived to see this day, because all the stuff I got make fun of for as a kid is now mainstream. And it's interesting.

I'm seeing the things on my screen that I've seen in my head for 30 years. Interesting. But I just think that, you know, a lot of it outside of the pop culture stuff, it's just, it's getting formulaic.

And I love when people can bring fresh voices to the table. And that's really the purpose and out of the voices heard compilation. It's these filmmakers that are here at Dallas Video Fest that are going to get that opportunity to have their voices heard.

It's a great thing. And I'm super appreciative. And I'm really thankful to Bart Weiss for what I'm taking my time and, you know, there's even a backstory to that too.

And so, which I'm happy to share. Please do, please do. I mean, it's five to seven.

I don't want to keep you from getting into the conversation. I have a lot of things to say. But I was actually rejected by Dallas Video Festival several attempts ago.

Oh, really? Yeah, this was kind of, this was not easy for me to get into. And so, I'll tell you the year, if you'd like.

You're more than welcome to. It was 2000 with my MFA thesis film. Yeah, I was rejected by Dallas Video Festival.

So when I got in, I was like, at first, I was very skeptical. I was like, I was like, are you kidding me? You know, it's like, imagine you like somebody 14 years ago.

Oh, now you want me. Now you want me. And I was like, this is, I didn't even write back, because I was just like, this is too weird.

And then I wrote back like two days later. And I wasn't even happy at first. But then I, it occurred to me.

I was like, oh, this is really cool. I need to embrace this. It was just too hard for me to understand.

So that's the back story. But you're here now. I'm here and it's been a very nice experience.

Have the audience. Are you doing the Q&A later? Yeah, I am.

And, you know, I'm just going to see what happens. All right, well, we're not going to keep you from it. We want you to get in there and so, because do you know when your film is showing during it?

I don't. I have no idea. I've got a drink here, and I may get another one.

And we'll be fine. Outstanding. John Alphon is, Alphon Alphon can, Alphon Alphon.

Alphon. OK, because I'm a guy with the last thing, like Irvin. I've heard it said a hundred different ways in my life.

So I get kind of sensitive to it. So I always want to make sure I say it right. John Alphon, the Arnold Chronicles during, I can't, I can't, I can't remember.

Is the voices heard compilation? I need to, I need a big Q card with that on it. Like, hooking it.

Not so many of them. Just ride it and tape it right. Thank you so much for joining us, sir.

It was our honor to have you. Yeah, thank you. Before you go, any websites you want to plug anything like that?

Well, my website is CorsairMediaProductions.com. OK. C-O-R-S-A-I-R-M-E-D-I-A-P-R-O-D-U-C-T-I-O-N-S.com.

That's, that's one. Does everything jump off from there? Is there anything that you want to plug Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, anything?

I mean, yeah, we've got at CorsairMedia on Twitter. CorsairMediaProductions on Facebook. Yeah, so that's about it.

We can hashtag the Arnold Chronicles and stuff like that. Actually, I will plug one movie. I saw a movie here, it was very beautiful.

It was called Remembering Susan Sontag. I didn't see that in the, in the guide. Yeah, it was really, really, really cool.

And I'm really happy I saw that. So there's a plug first. All right.

Someone not connected to me. Well, thank you so much for joining us, sir. OK, thank you.

All right, let's go on to the cavalcade of gifts, the cavalcade of two. I guess you will. It's right next to you, sir.

OK. Like I said, I was going to go in one direction. I wasn't going to get you anything from one direction.

I just meant to do it. I was about to throw this thing, but I had to go to a different, I got to go and do a different route on this. So quality wrapping job on this one, you know what, sir?

Sometimes a white plastic bag can say more than any gifts a wrap you can put on something. That's all I'm saying. It was an entire plot device in American beauty, so that's a fair point.

And I still didn't get it. But you know, Don tied that pretty tight, didn't he? Yes, he did.

I guess he didn't want it to get away. Is this a Gremlin in here? Well, no, I already fed it, so you know.

OK, I recognize the font. Yeah, you figured it's going to be. Oh, yeah.

Well, it's an audio medium, sir. I'm kind of laying out so I can get a good look at the logo. It is a Star Wars hoodie.

It is indeed. I was going to get you the Vader one, but I thought you already had it, so I've got the trooper one. Oh, it's OK.

I could never find the Vader one. Oh, they got it everywhere now. At the heart of the wall.

So it is basically the Yavin battle. Yeah, the characters in with the cold weather coming in. You will be prepared for it now.

Thank you, sir. There we go. Holy cow, I thought, we, you know, just when you think you got everything under control, more people sit at the table.

And I love it. We're going to get into this right now. There should be a pair of headphones for at least one is.

There should be another one over there, though. Hmm? Did it come on, what?

That's mine. Did it come on? Oh, where's the?

That is unfortunate. There you go. Over.

Yeah, over. We're just, we're getting organized here. You get the mics turned on as well.

There you go. All right. Gentlemen, I'm going to let you introduce yourself.

Tell us who you are and then what you're plugging. OK, I'm Brandon Jamison, producer of the film, Voices Throne Silent. OK.

Yeah, I'm Paul. I'm strong. I directed it.

And to my left is, I'm Lynn Andrews III. And I'm one that acted it. All right.

You acted it? You acted it. I like it.

All right, Voices Throne Silent. Also, but we are just, we may have every represented from the Voices Heard compilation tonight. Well, good, good, good.

Good, good. Kind of, I don't know. I'm a little intrigued right now because it's called Voices Throne Silent.

And it's part of the Voices Heard compilation. I'm going to let you go. Throne.

Throne? I can't read it. Throne.

Throne. What does that say? What does that say, sir?

Throne, I think. OK. It's not me this time.

Throne Silent was the Porto parody. It's in post-production. They just made it yesterday.

So tell us about the film. Well, it's a, it's a mockumentary about, I'm a big fan of the mockumentary. About interracial ventriloquism.

Yeah. Hold on, hold on. Back to, back to parade up a couple of floats here.

OK. Things just got real. Interracial ventriloquism.

I'm telling you things just got real. But I just heard it's interracial ventriloquism. I have a connection to this already.

I have a whole bunch of things. Oh, you know what? I think I know what you're about to talk about.

In, in elementary school for three years running at my elementary school in Mesquitex's. I did the talent show with Leicester as my ventriloquist guy. So I am right in on this.

Make stuff up this good. We actually were matching t-shirts. We wore the I'm with stupid t-shirts.

Please, please tell me there's video footage of this somewhere. Well, since video cameras really weren't commercially available for another eight years, no. Did someone draw it?

Someone took pictures at some point. We got a lot of them. We need pictures of this for the website.

I mean, I had my Leicester ventriloquist dummy for like 15 years now. He just fell apart. That was a big fan of Leicester.

It was I. They're still out there doing it. Willie Tyler's still dead.

Yeah, they're still out there getting done. So, okay, how did we get here? I guess this is the question.

And talk right into the microphone. It's been a long time. I've been close friends for a while.

And every now and again, we get drunk. And he says, hey, come to the computer. Come see this, come see this.

And he was showing Conan O'Brien show they had the ventriloquyre, which is like a bunch of ventriloquists singing Christmas songs. Because when I think of a ventriloquism choir, I think of Christmas. That's right.

And he says the magic words. He elbows me and says, hey, ever noticed that ventriloquists are always the same race as the dummy. And until he said an interracial ventriloquism, I never thought about it, but you're absolutely right.

And I am so in on this. That is all it took. We're going to make a movie of that.

How long is the film right now? 41 minutes. So it's probably the longest of the voice of certain compilation films that we've seen that we've talked with so far.

Yeah, it was actually a horrible mistake to make a movie of that long and that short. Well, I mean, which then leads me to the next question. Is this kind of a deal where you've made this 41 minute film, but you want to double its runtime and make it into a feature?

Or have you kind of told the story you want to tell? I think the writing kind of, we ran out of ideas at that point. And unlike the makers of the Matrix, you knew when to finish.

Yeah. Let's take this one shake as far as it'll go. That's my second Matrix reference today.

Somebody talked about that. Hey, look, we just walked up the third story. Who has joined us?

She's the white ventriloquist that has the black dummy. OK. That's a speed.

Lauren, hi. It's like I just sat down. You're throwing a microphone in front of my face.

So when did you film it? A year ago, June, July, June, July. So last summer, summer of 13.

You get to be this old and then time just blends anymore. How many times has the film been shown? We've shown it at the San Francisco Black Film Festival.

How did it go? It went pretty well. That's what I had to do that.

I had to do that. Yeah. So has it shown that I guess the question is until tonight, how many times have you screened it?

Three. Well, so this is four. So in San Francisco, we showed it in Maine.

And then they picked it to be part of their best of satellite festival. And here. And that's it.

Cool. When is this screening? Because I had to.

It's during the voices thing. But what time do we have a minute? It's part of this screening event.

Do you know when? Are you going to need to be excused, sir? How might?

We've got the actors here. They could act it out for you. This is an audio medium.

Venturelequism in an audio medium just doesn't seem to work very well. Oh, I've got a black actor and a white actor. They could take turns being done the eventual.

So you've perfected with your D sounding like D's and your S is sounding like F's. My hand is not going there. Well, it was uncomfortable.

Now we're back to the porn version. Easy killer. Oh, he started it.

I'm going to finish it. That's the problem. You dog on right.

Not a flawless victory. Thank you. From here, where's it going to go?

No idea. No idea. I mean, you're at the mercy of the programmers.

So we're getting rejected, right? But we're getting rejected by some pretty major festivals. But if you're going to get rejected, get rejected.

Let's have the best way. I'm the biggest names in town. That was my dating life in high school.

If you're going to get rejected, get rejected big. But I guess the question becomes, where do you want the film to go? I mean, is this something that's just going to, is it something that maybe I have seen might pick up or?

Well, the running time, even though it's a little too long to be a short and too short to be a long, it kind of clocks in right at like a TV episode, you know, like 40 minutes of my commercial. So we kind of think of it sort of as a like a pilot. You know, what we created some characters that could be, maybe, you know, expanded upon, you know, that kind of thing.

So that's kind of how we're showing it. And we get that feedback from whoever it is at these shows. The question becomes, okay, if I just told you, you can, we'll air this and you pick the place it airs.

Where would it air? I think I have seen your Sundance channel. They'd eat that up.

And it's too dirty to go on Comedy Central. Yeah. We've reached that day, sir.

What about the actors? What would you like to see this one? HBO.

I was not figured. Yeah, it's kind of like something weird in the middle, you know, kind of like adult slim does that little Oh, yeah, programming something like the HBO. Because it's not TV.

It's HBO. It's HBO. I didn't even use that slogan anymore.

Yeah, I fast forward a lot of things. So I don't really DVR. I don't watch any.

The only thing I watch live are sports programs. Thank you. Exactly.

It's like the wife and I go, OK, SVU starts right now. We're going to start watching it in 15 minutes. So that way we can get through the commercials and we don't have to watch them.

This is the guy that fast forwards through the challenges on Survivor. I don't watch Survivor. I bailed this scene.

But I'm saying even when you were watching it, you do it too, Don. Yeah, Don has my back. Thank you.

Oh, so that makes it right. Exactly. That's the voice of reason.

Two rights make it even more right. Three rights make a left. That's all I'm saying.

Yeah, yeah, don't even try. Don't even try. I give up.

That's a new one. It's been a long time since you just threw the right towel. Once you hit 45, you just, you pick your battle sports.

That's right, you're halfway to 90 years of three days ago. See, because no matter how old I get, he's always older than me. And that's the important thing.

Except you weren't throwing yourself all over a volleyball court last night in the 41. Because I've, I've, I've, I've, I'm not that smart ever. So I, I'm still, I still can't stop laughing.

I can't, if you had told me this morning, Rob, you need to read the program because you're going to interview people and then on this, I'm like, no, you're not. Don't, somebody gave me a fake program. Where's Ashton Kutcher?

He's a dead man. This is really happening, people. I have to see this in the worst.

OK, so which leads us to the next deal. Give me shameless plugs for this movie. Websites.

Where can people get to it? Where can they, you know, we all we have is a Facebook page. We have, we're pretty technologically illiterate as far as plugging.

Why don't, why don't we have our talent plug their next gigs? I'm sorry, I'm good with that too, that's fine. Because we have a great actor here who's Carter High coming up.

And then we have one of the funniest local female comedians. You didn't have to qualify. I'm sorry.

Funny, funny is comedians, I'm sorry. I'm old. Thank you.

Yeah, no, I will be at, or no, Dallas, Hyena is opening for Dustin Abara, November. I love that guy. Oh, he is funny.

You wouldn't give him a lot. He does a street fighter routine that cracks me up there. Hasn't he been on BNT?

I know that I think he has. I'm a big Bob Tom fan. So, Bob and Tom show in Indiana, naturally, sitting in.

I think he has permission to take one of my jokes. Oh, yeah? Yeah.

The mommy joke. Oh, I love it. The mommy joke.

Tell it, tell it. Well, since it's a family, it's a family-friendly show, so let's just put that out there. It's a family-friendly joke.

Perfect. It's because it's Halloween, this is a great Halloween prank to play if you have an Egyptian mommy living in your neighborhood. I think Mars just moved out.

Yeah. Here's what you do, though. The toilet paper is house, then you knock on the door, you tell them this wife exploded.

I got nothing. I got nothing. I like it.

I'm not saying it's not funny, I just, I got nothing. Wow. Dustin will never hear this.

For me, what we just wrapped about a month ago, Carter High, which is a story about 80s football team, that Dallas Carter. Yeah, Dallas Carter. Yeah, a lot of people know the story, a lot of people don't know it.

Well, Texas. Right. But the thing is, and my thing with Dallas Carter, I grew up in South Florida, but I know about Dallas Carter because I read Friday nightlights.

If you've seen Friday nightlights, erase that from your brain. Yes. Go read the book.

I'm actually inaccurate. Oh, yeah. I was watching the movie.

I'm like, Tim McGrath's character isn't even in the book. What? They screwed up the ending.

Yeah. So is it based, is it the story of those teams, or is it just kind of a gen, no, it's a story of that team, of that team? So it's also, it picks up where they're going through their season, how they're going to have the court battles with the, the school, you know, one of the players is ineligible because of their grades.

So it goes through that, and then after they get to, they win the championship, they beat Permian. Permian? Well, actually, no, they, Permian wasn't the finals, it was the same as the finals.

Yeah, it was a, yeah, well, the thing is, they beat them, they beat another team. It was a, I forget, Judson, and they beat them by like 30 something. Oh, this was my senior year.

This happened. Is that what happened? Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

It follows, it follows that, and then it follows the, afterwards the, the aftermath of what ends up, and I really, I really don't want, I really don't want to go too deep because I really want, if people don't know that story, go look it up because the story of, it's just, when I read Friday Night Lights and you get to the end of that book and your brain just melts. Are you kidding me? And now they didn't go into that in the film.

It's like, you've kind of defeated the purpose of the film by changing the ending the way you did. It almost partners Friday Night Lights into a complimentary film. If you were to take the inaccurate depiction of Carter out of the movie, it's a part of it.

Oh, excellent. Which is awesome. When is that going to be, when is that going out?

And it'll be released next year. It'll be doing a festival run. And then, so, well, maybe we'll have you back for, for, because we, we have, so, we cover some of the other festivals too.

The director Arthur Muhammad, who was also played on the team at the time. Really? Yeah, he's, he's a guy that ran the thing.

So, it's, I'm telling you, people, it's going to be crazy. It's going to be ridiculous. I'm loving some of the names involved in this dance to, oh, yeah, that's it.

Vivica Fox, David Banner, Charleston, rocks in this? Yeah. I'm a big, you know, my big Charleston fan, as am I.

Love that show. As well as that, one more, I'm doing the narration for a show called The Undercard, which is a boxing reality show that follows six, five or six boxes from the end of the show. Who have my attention?

It starts on the 25th. Because I'm, I'm a big boxing fan. I tell you, it picks up and it, it, it follows five different boxers and it follows their everyday life, how they're hard, they train pretty much on you, how hard you have to work to be a boxer.

Oh, yeah, it's, and, yeah. Ridiculous. It starts on the 25th.

And they're also, who's airing it? Uh, CW. It'll be on slowly.

Yeah. I narrate for that and it'll be, uh, they'll be doing like, I don't know if it's weekly yet. I'm not sure, but they'll be doing like, you know, you watch them for a week and then the fight is the next weekend, it's live at, uh, K Bayley Hutchinson's commitment center.

Oh, so it's, it's kind of, it's a live event kind of ultimate fight. That's about to say. Okay.

Uh, and you know, I, I prefer boxing to UFC anyways. Yeah. I'm an old school boxing guy and it hurts me.

It hurts me to see what boxing has become because UFC has just become this juggernaut and boxing has been kind of pushed to the side and it makes me sad because boxing is, to me, is more technical. Going up in the haggler sugar red litter area. I don't see when boxing was just, uh, everything about sports and boxing, uh, personally, uh, if you heard that, I mean, you just said the sports guys start talking, uh, extreme ventriloquism and engage, uh, is that how you, uh, you're, you're skydiving with the dummy at the same time, ultimate ninja before your ventriloquist, they'll be filming that at Fair Park later this year.

All right. All right. Voice is thrown silent.

What is, what else do you say? This is, I'm, I'm incredibly intrigued by this. Are you guys going to say for the Q and A after?

Yes. Yes. Okay.

So that, that Q and A is going to be an all-star lineup. If you're listening to this show, you need to, like, listen on your phone and get here. You should already be here because, yeah, because it's, it started 15 minutes ago and you're already missing stuff.

So we're going to let you guys get to it. We're here. Voice is thrown silent.

You need, you need to see this. I, I can't, I need, I know, I'm going to wake up in the middle of the night today. But I'm laughing.

And the lovely and talented Mrs. Irvin is going to think I'm more insane than I already am. That's hard to think.

And tomorrow's our anniversary. So at least need her to be nice to me tomorrow. So you might get committed on your anniversary, which I've been committed for a long time, sir.

I'm not that kind of a half. Thank you very much. Yes.

I am. I am. I am.

And she knows it. So thank you guys so much for being with us. Thanks for having us.

This is our honor. We can't wait to hear the, the crowd reaction afterwards. Sir, ah, so much fun, so much fun we're having.

We are live from the Alamo Drafthouse in Richardson opening weekend of Dallas Video Fest, 27. We're at all begins again, because it wasn't, but if it wasn't for Dallas Video Fest, we wouldn't have gotten so many of the other things that we've been in honor and been privileged to be a part of. So, you know, we've got that thing that Bart just let us do this and we're going to have the great Kelly Kitchens on before too much longer.

I'm sure if it wasn't for her, we wouldn't be where we are. So we cannot thank the gun. You can't say, you don't say Kelly Kitchens, you say the great Kelly Kitchens, you have to say that.

Her feet don't. Her feet don't touch around when you walks. That is true.

All right. Whew. I'm going to take a breath here.

We've been going strong now for an hour and 15 minutes. I had somebody once tell me, how is it you do this show without commercials? Like, I won't number one.

There's no revenue. But number two, because we can, we're hoping to get there eventually. Someday, joining us now, writer director Gordon Smith, writer director of just a cigar, this is going to be showing later in the festival.

Yes, closing day. Feel free to put your headphones on there, sir, so you can hear everything you need to hear. Don, the official fact checker of this show has joined us as well.

For a few minutes. No hot clothes for you. No, no, no, no.

A man who has a birthday coming up himself. Exactly. Monday.

Month. Where's the other week for television? If you're watching USA, I'll tell you that much.

Okay. And what I'm doing, take him the day off. Hey, nothing.

And you deserve it, sir. So, I'm only going to be on for a few right now. I'll just check an insane hide.

But you know me, so. You need to sit down and get your breath. Oh, no.

Yeah. I do it for the empire. I am very intrigued as I am reading the synopsis of this festival.

I looked at the fact sheet that, at the handing me, I'm like, okay, how exactly. We're going to talk about this one Sunday October 19th will be at the Angelica Midday 315 315 that is central time So if you're traveling in make sure you adjust your watches accordingly It is my sister birthday lead in to their Francois Truffaut documentary A conversation with Francois Truffaut Paul and I I think the dear departed Francois would have approved Well tell us tell our audience about it because I mean I'm reading it They can't see what I'm reading we're an audio medium So tell our audience about the film just to sit guard because it's a question mark It's not yes not a statement. It's a question mark and go ahead talk straight into that things everybody There you go perfect.

Well, this this got conceived and for one. I'm a a movie buff on my life I sit around with nerds and geeks like me and discuss the you're sitting with three right now my friend My newest of detail of old movies and The idea of this came to me after Going to his screening of the Maltees Falcon right here at this theater Real here at the Alamo at the Alamo outstanding on a Sunday afternoon There's a famous shot in the Maltees Falcon which Over the years has kind of become one of those Shots Evolving Peter Laurie in a very odd looking cane That He handles while talking to hungry Bogart. Yeah a little too fondly might.

Yeah And so We got this conversation whether that was intended or not If you know the film the character that Peter Laurie plays his name Joel Cairo and he's He's obviously a gay character at a time when they could not come out and say that somebody was gay But even though Maltees Falcon was made in 1941 in the middle of the censorship era between the enforcement of the haze code in 1934 I'd say the late 60s when Tabby's dropped one by one and eventually you know the filmmakers could pretty much do it say what they wanted Uh There was a long history of writers and directors slipping in little interesting little metaphors Visual metaphors in the films that they knew would get past the censors and a lot of them did So Having this discussion with these friends of mine and I We said was that intentional. Yeah, it was intentional And you know, we started talking about some other examples of this and I said you know I've always wanted to put a bunch of these together I just kind of you know people don't realize I think if they think all old movies were very puritan they they're they're a rug They were slipping all kinds of things in there between the lines And so the the subtitle of this film could be hidden sexual metaphors in 16 classic Hollywood films that you never noticed before How long with the documentary? About 13 and a half minutes.

So you got all of that into 13 and a half minutes Well, this is the clip speak for themselves There's no narration Okay, actually you you could break that down further and say it's 12 classic Hollywood films two cat classics and two cartoons Okay, oh wow there you go You know, and it's it's one of those things that As film geeks because of you know, I we're not nerds where geeks because geeks are nerds with social skills Right, so you know the difference there These are the kind of stuff that we talk about like Did I see what I think I just saw yes, you know, it's it's not The who framed Roger rabbit conundrum in the beginning if you take that frame by frame the little mermaid cover Yeah, the original bunch for the little mermaid where and the VHS box and the VHS box as well Yeah, that's the kind of thing. Yeah, and it's it's To have someone actually go through and go you know what let's take this thing that we talk about it Let's put it out there in the open so everybody can talk about it And then not only that but you get like as you said you get to be the person that kind of ushers in The conversation with friends watch for foes. So yes, you know, that's double bonus and the film includes clips for movies by Franco Truffaut's favorite directors There you go.

I can John Houston and Billy Wilder and I didn't know that they were going to pair it with the Truffaut. I'm glad they did I think spirited Truffaut would have approved. Is this your is your first time at Dallas video fest?

No, I have had some other things in the past I had a similar kind of mashup several years ago called science gone wild which was all about Strange concepts of science to be found in science fiction films of the 50s and early 60s nice, which I grew up loving And similar kind of thing that sort of Like that film this one is is pattern like a like an educational film appreciation class film cool uh Like something they would have shown you in a film film app course. Is this something that you want to take to a larger stage? Are you kind of happy where it is?

Well, I have been by some people who've seen it said you know you could easily expand this I'm trying not to drop too many double on targets myself here But it's it's pretty impossible not to uh to stretch this out to an hour Uh, and it's possible, you know, I've got plenty more than enough material. I'm already thinking of a Sequel calling son of just a cigar Possibly is that a cigarette? Yeah, is that a cigarette well played sir?

Um, the title comes from the famous segment Freud We have a little picture of just a cigar. Darrowed segment on the poster. Oh do you actually?

Actually, are you shopping this to other festivals or are you just gonna kind of keep it here? Oh, excellent It will be the premiere it is already scheduled to show At the Fort Lauderdale International Film Festival. I'm from Fort Lauderdale even better I used to live in Fort Lauderdale.

Whereabouts? We're about in Fort Lauderdale. Oh, well for a while I lived in a condo on the beach right off sunrise Okay, I lived in a water hill and I lived in Margate and I lived in Coconut Creek in this The last four years I lived there where in this condo just back from the beach on I think it was Bishop Street coming off A1A.

Okay. Oh, yeah And I lived in Lauderdale for seven years and I Uh, I was working for blockbuster corporation I worked for that. That's such a beautiful building They had in downtown Fort Lauderdale that blockbuster building.

Oh, yeah, one main plaza. Like beautiful building. That was I love going into that building I worked for them here.

I'm actually one of the very first employees. Oh, really? Of blockbuster co-workers.

Yeah, I worked in the first store in the middle in center Yes, it did I was one of the first employees of the store and then I went to work in the corporate offices or for them 16 years About half that time in Dallas and half that time in Florida So I'm half half Floridian. Hey, we'll take it. We're good with it and I also do video work for that festival Oh, okay.

I have a sideline. I produced tribute videos For various festivals for the Dallas festival for Fort Lauderdale. I got I am producing the tribute for Harry Sharer for this festival.

You know what? I'm glad you said that because that's kind of transition to one of the things that we want to talk about About Dallas video fest comes up Friday night every year They give away what's called the Kovacs award named after Ernie Kovacs and this year it is going to the great Harry Sharer and if you don't know who Harry Sharer is just watch this Man, the thousand boys. Yes, many talents and there will be screening.

This is spinal tap that night One of my favorite films. I'm a big fan of of Rob Reiner and then Christopher Guest and all yep And we we will crank it up to 11 that night believe it another mockumentary. Oh, it is sort of like mine I want to say that's the first mockumentary I ever saw Well, it's just about the first mockumentary ever made I was about to say I think it is I think it may have been for as a feature film That was the first one and I'm really a fan of that cast of characters, you know A mighty wind best-in-show Christopher Guest company.

Oh, yes, wait for guffin. Oh, great for your consideration And you so you did the tribute video that they're going to show to him on Friday night. Yes next week from tonight Keep thinking it's Saturday I can't be Saturday because I get tomorrow's my anniversary and if I'm here if I've Yeah, that wouldn't I would not go well You may have a label you would have a laser site on your forehead anything coming up that you're working on you want to talk about Uh, I am working on stuff for the Dallas Film Society's Event in November with Tony Collette I'm big fan of her that tribute nice I'm producing for Ford Latter-Down tribute.

I don't know if you ever went to the Ford Latter-Down Film Festival while you live there I was fairly young. I moved here when I was 21 So those of the impressionable years were down there I'm sure I've been there at some point, but I don't know if I've ever gotten really involved in it For George Hamilton really In other things the tan one, but he's the big name really good And I've always loved just the atmosphere that the Ford Latter-Down Film Festival created because Well for what it's it's not the barrel Alaska Film Festival Everything they do is palm trees and sand or warm and sunny and And No hurricanes ever that either they managed to avoid that and I went through Andrew down there. I slept through Andrew actually Yeah, we were I was living at home And my I remember I woke up at one point and I went And it's ran kind of hard outside and I went back to bed And then my mom came in and woke me up and she's like, dude I'm like the sun's not out.

She's like hello moron. We had a hurricane. It's 130 in the afternoon.

Get up Well, it's too long a story to go completely into now, but the the day that That Andrew started approaching the coast. I was with my then girlfriend in Key Largo. Oh, yeah, get out there quickly absolutely crazy and insane and Driving like maniacs back up into date and then blowered Everybody screaming and hock at each other and then we joined up with some friends and went out to House out in sunrise and had a hurricane party out there Great big tree in front of that house fell fortunately not over the house, but in front of the display.

Oh wow Yeah, we were without power for about a day and a half to two days No, we were just like my week last week and even when you had you know We had a battery-powered radio, but everything was was hurricane coverage There was nothing that you could really do to get away from it And I remember getting the power coming back on and seeing those first those first shots from Miami And I was just my jaw was on the floor. Yeah, I I went down to Homestead did some charity work several days later with Salvation honey So yeah, I love Florida. Yeah, yeah, this this will be Justice cigar will be shown out.

That is awesome. Yeah, man Justice cigar shows now a week from Sunday the last day of the festival 315 the afternoon at the Angelica Film Center a beautiful place to see a movie just like the alamo To have both of these venues on this video festival is It's it's it's really you're getting the best presentation possible. It's the Reese's peanut butter cup Yeah, you get to For two of the price of wine you also get to see the French one through photo But then we they can talk about that we're ever talking about your movie.

Yeah, I wouldn't Anything that you want to plug websites social media anything. I have a Facebook page Justice cigar with the question mark. You got to be sure and add the question mark lots of Bands out there called justice cigar and other really use the phrase Which they now I heard somebody on APR saying well, we don't we don't take he Sigmund ever actually said that that's a apocryphal but it's too good not to use so I you know, I want to recommend go to justice cigar question mark Facebook page and anybody who loves all movies and loves looking at Some of the themes and ideas that were expressed in them around the such a shift that existed at the time And I've had lots of people say well, yeah, but what about that scene and this and that and they're talking about stuff in the 70s and 80s Too easy to yeah at that point it was more out there in the open.

It was out there. Nobody was trying to sneak anything but exactly What makes it fascinating is what they were doing in fact one of the last clips or one of the most recent is from Bonnie and Clyde. Oh wow dialysis She and she just they just had her birthday Earlier this week.

I believe oh the real bodies. Yeah, her birthday was her date of birth I could she could call it was earlier this week Well, thank you so much for joining us sir This Gordon Smith justice cigar next Sunday 315 followed by the conversation with Truffaut Can't beat that thank you sir so much We're gonna take a little breather here and talk some headlines if you're ready for that sir. Let's do it We're gonna do some TV headlines because I'm very excited We did have I was gonna do one thing but we're gonna skip that so but you don't have the one sheets.

That's not gonna matter. Okay You know, yeah, that's big of a fan of alias as I was right for many years the the man who played Jennifer Garner's father on that show Bigger Garber Who also officiated her wedding to Ben Affleck right he is joining the cast of the flash Uh-huh, very excited about it. Yes.

Yeah, I figured we're gonna bring that up Stephen Amel's cousin Robby Amel who was on the tomorrow people in that show got canceled Well, he joins the cast of the flash as Ronnie Raymond the boy half of Firestorm Garber will be playing Dr. Martin Stein who is the other half of Firestorm. Oh, okay, very excited about this big fan of Victor Garber Also, he's a great movie villain When did he play a movie villain Garber?

Yeah, when look it up Okay, he's played some great movie villains as well because I know my wife is a good fit a big fan of his because he was an Eli Stoney Um, also we found out that ABC has given full season orders to how to get away with murder and blackish So they're gonna be on for full seasons now. I just don't have anything for either one of those Nothing really intrigued me about that But CBS has also renewed under the dome for another season next next summer right and extant That Halle Berry thing got a season too. It did.

I thought it was oh no, it was Rosemary's baby. That was a mini series Yes, but they've canceled one of their their drama's reckless I didn't even know that was even a show it was in that um if you hadn't asked me I probably could have told you okay I like I didn't ask you okay. I just can't do that We talked in the past on this show about sci-fi making a television series out of 12 monkeys.

It now has a premiere date It will begin Friday January 16th at nine Eastern now. I want you to think about that for a minute Nine Eastern eight central What's normally on sci-fi Friday nights at eight central? That would be smack that would be WWE Smackdown So we know they're now going to move Smackdown.

We just don't we're assuming they're gonna move it back to Thursdays But we don't have official confirmation on that yet. Don's rejoined us. Hi Most of the people are in their films right now.

Sure. We got a little break here to go But yeah, we got someone big coming in from England William Westway. When will that be?

Well, he's on the fight from Houston. So he had a 535 just to let you know, okay But we're trying to make sure we try to get him in Okay, but we got I'm still trying to get more people lined up with most of the films going right now So we got time for headlines. Yeah, we're talking some TV headlines right now Something that I don't know how you're gonna feel about this Don.

I think you're gonna be in on this Disney XD Is working with the production company responsible for the teletubbies and the bubbleguppies To develop cloudy with a chance of meatballs into a television series. It makes perfect sense to me It's nice. Yeah, absolutely.

It's gonna deal with Flint Lockwood when he was in high school So it's gonna be a prequel of sorts No word of billhater will be involved who's also hosting SNL tomorrow night by the way Speaking of Disney XD, please do Have either of y'all watch Star Wars Rebels yet. I have not I was not aware until after the fact that that now Would that was that just the pilot because nobody can find him in the next episode. It's gonna air already aired The next episode's already aired.

Okay, so the series is up and running. Yes, okay now I've been told that they're gonna re-air the pilot The last Sunday of the month on the 20s at the 26th. I think so the 25th the 26th With extra footage including a Vader scene.

Yes Voice to buy James Earl Jones. Yes Yeah, I found that out today. I've seen I've seen the first two episodes.

I've seen the pilot in the second episode and I Was floored. I've heard good things. I have seen it yet.

Absolutely. Actually buy it. It's available on blue right now.

Yeah. Yeah You're you are gonna love this bro. I hope so you are gonna love so I'm a little skeptical.

I'm not gonna lie to you. Well, I know you were not a fan of Clone Wars The visual style of I was not I was not a fan of the storyline itself because that time frame in the Star Wars saga just bores me But they're finally farming the rich It's soil of material that they can work with between three and four. This literally takes place I think they said five years before episode four.

Okay fair enough other Past properties being made into television series and I don't know how you're gonna feel about this We are rebooting in the heat of the night Which I don't know that we need to do that There was a movie then it was a TV show now it's gonna be TV show again Uncle Buck I don't know that we need that and Yeah, yeah, I don't know how they're doing it, but it's happening and from the this is This is really happening and I'm gonna apologize about informing you about this ahead of time because it involves Adam Sandler Oh god no Adam Sandler is working with NBC to develop real genius for a television series This is happening is he starring in it or is he just producing it? He's just working with them There's been no casting news as of yet. Okay, as long as it doesn't cast himself and Val Kilmer's role He's not at the bottom of the barrel yet, but it's visible.

It's all I'm saying yeah circling the drain And let's go to some news that we think it's gonna make Don kind of happy because as you know If you listen to this show at all, which we appreciate you doing Sunday nights at seven Eastern for Pacific Don's a big sons of anarchy fan. Yes, I am the final season underway and it's not just morning. Okay good Charisma Carpenter joining the cast of the final season of sons of anarchy who I am a big fan As am I How you doing just saying she will be playing Carol a conservative administrator at a medical facility That's all we know right now.

They're not going any deeper. It's this season. She's in Well, yeah, because the final season is not going to be another one is a facilitator at a medical Oh, that just get it's charisma Carpenter.

I know, but I'm just trying to I'm figuring how that's going to go into the plot and everything I've been oh, there's probably pieces of the plot you don't have I know I know again because I'm telling you they're keeping a little That thing there they are. I mean you had Marilyn Manson and they're twice so far You didn't he didn't do too bad either. He's not a bad actor.

He's just weird. Yeah, he has some movie headlines Interesting news coming from the Oscars right now From the foreign language of best foreign language film category. There have been 83 countries that have submitted films Good Lord Would that's a record for the Oscars?

83 different countries have submitted films for best foreign language film for this year Good luck pairing that field. Yeah, the grandmaster did not get nominated last year It should I thought it did for best. Oh, it did not Yeah, it did.

Okay. Don that was one of the very Actually, that was the first screening that we got to go to as press. Well together as a group.

Yeah as a group Yeah, I saw I finished song that's the first one I wanted that was the first time I ever set foot in the angelica too Uh speaking of things foreign that we all enjoy dynamite entertainment Get ready next year. They are developing a comic book series based on the James Bond franchise. Oh boy Brent people's you hear that Oh, we want to send a shout out to Brent.

He's at New York Comic Con this weekend Up there representing his work was fine work where George Clooney dropped in yes He did to preview tomorrow and you did see the crossover that Brent's working on right? Yes, I did the Ghostbusters Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles crossover. Oh, yeah Have you seen the cover for yes for issue two?

Is that the one where one of the turtles is holding up the trap? Yeah, it's Michelangelo's it's like he's got his is not just a ninja. Okay, very excited about that also Robert Downey Jr.

was on Ellen earlier this week. He says negotiations for Iron Man 4 are on That story changes every but have you heard who he wants to direct it? Oh, down he wants milk Gibson Yeah My suit, but they'll never come on Also interesting rumors coming out of Marvel this week for the title for Captain America 3 Okay, civil war.

Oh stop it That is the rumor that has been swirling not if they don't get that deal with so hey wait for it wait for it though Here's my thing How long are you gonna have to wait to do this because of all the setup you're going to have to do to get their number one yeah number two It also service this week that Marvel is in negotiations with Sony to get Spider-Man back because right now Sony is a little disenfranchised you didn't like amazing to I really did and I was in the majority with that and you You I mean you are you are the spider-man authority in this particular program And I'm not a big Spider-Man fan just like I'm not a big Superman thing because I think Superman's cheating But I really enjoyed amazing too. I couldn't I and I'm not kind of surprised And it kind of surprised me as much as I love that first one Because that was about as close to flawless as a Spider-Man film gets as we've seen in our lifetime for sure and For it to go that great to that man Just crushed me and and you think I'm a Spider-Man fan. We all know my daughter is a bigger spider Is indeed and she was like I mean going wow that could have been better really enjoyed it Well, I think you went in with your expectations way low no because I really enjoyed the first one I remember I enjoyed amazing Spider-Man well I truly did getting the feedback from you that you enjoyed it that much I think is what raised my level because you hated the Raimi Trilogy so much there There's not enough hatred in the world for the Raimi Trilogy as far as I'm concerned the first two Uh-oh oh What are we doing Don Okay, uh, wait, but who's gonna be talking on air while you're talking?

We're talking we're gonna talk about new Ghostbusters Do you have news on that? Yeah, I do, but yeah, well you can talk to Kelly real quick me channel talking about okay fair enough Okay, the cast they're talking is basically bridesmaids. Oh, yeah Well, when look at the director that they're that they've passed.

Yeah, it's gonna be like all women and stuff like that Now they told the people the the originals like Bill Murray all them and all that stuff that they All the originals are welcome back to have some roles in there right now. What do you think about that? Should they do Ghostbusters 3 with the originals who are still alive?

Or do you think this new thing with the women? I mean don't get wrong. I love Melissa McCarthy.

Okay, so you're you're asking should it be a sequel or should it be a reboot? Or should they just do part three with originals and do this thing with all the women a good idea or a bad idea Well, it's kind of Uh My opinion probably isn't all that significant or or necessary because it's happening. You know whether I like it or not It's happening.

Well, what's your opinion on that? Well, since we lost um Harold Raynes. Yeah, if you can't get all of them together again and since he was such a huge part of it It was one of the four.

Yeah, yeah, I mean I mean I know Rick Miranda's when they talked about it said no I have enough money. I don't want to do it. They can do it throughout Rick Miranda.

Yeah, but you know We're talking about we're talking about the busters themselves. Yeah, it's exactly in Sigourney, we've heard of course, but yeah If you can't have the original four there then you may as well go with a different idea and if this is their idea then okay Good on you. I mean, I kind of like the idea they were kicking around with getting the guys you know a bunch of the guys from This is the end when you were talking about possibly getting Seth Rogan and yeah Michael Sarah.

I would have been all of that. I think that would have been an enjoyable film Oh get it. Hey Rob.

Rob. Rob King. Okay, there you are.

Here I am. How are you doing? He's back in front of the show.

Yeah We're doing a live remote here from the Almo Draft House. We got Wonder the directors are back to bad street here back on bad street back on bad street Okay, but yeah, I already been on the show, but we're just talking some headlines real quick But then we're gonna start having a conversation and talk about the films that's over here And it is tonight here at the Almo Draft House, right? But what is your thoughts on this on this all of those busters Yeah, I feel like you if they they don't get everybody they don't they don't do something different Yeah, because you know, it's like trying to do a remake of bananas and you don't have anybody right I don't know why I said That's a terrible analogy.

I mean, it's gonna be from the cast alive But but but but would still that does beg the question is this going to be viewed as a sequel or a reboot I don't know is it a true sequel to Ghostbusters 2 or or is this just Ghostbusters reboot? Yeah Yeah, if you don't have all of them then I don't even know what it is. I don't know how you and you know Gosh they were 30 years younger and you know seeing them run around now Yeah chasing ghosts.

I don't know. Yeah, that's 30 years ago. I was 12 when I came out Because I mean, I really don't know that if I did I want to see Bill Murray and Dan Echroid and Ernie Hudson chasing Ghost down to a hotel hallway in Manhattan Well, we're gonna have a little spoiler.

There's a film with Bill Murray coming out and he has aged You know what I'm saying. Oh, yeah, you could tell what you saw him at the Oscars. Yeah, yeah Let's see in at a company film from the charlors from the St Vincent He is aged.

Yes, you know, and him and that little suit. I don't even know if he could you know carry the power packs anymore No They'd have to make it completely out of balsa wood For fear that he would trip and fall downstairs and breaking hip And I don't wish that on Bill Murray because he's a genius Well in case somebody missed the first time you're on the show. We're here tonight at the Animal Draft House here at the Dallas video festival I mean, I am here in Richardson and Back on Bad Street Give us a synopsis of what's going on with that Well, it is a celebration of the song and the video that started the genre and dog on right it is And uh, welcome back Rob.

We're uh, you know, we're we've made a documentary on it. So Hey Rob and we've had a chance to Preview it a little bit. We're gonna watch it again tonight because we want to watch it with you.

Oh, okay So that's the main thing. I that's why we want to make sure we're off went off air enough time to pack up the gear and get in there and see it with you. Okay Watching this documentary at a certain point.

I think we had to pause it because we were laughing hard When we had the media roundtable with you guys a couple of weeks ago you gave us a little bit more insight Into the film itself than we had when we had you on the show about a month ago, right and We still weren't prepared for how funny that thing was we really really enjoyed it Um, we had a lot of fun making it too because I mean we You know, I think like we talked about when when I was on last is that you know, we we had a great time We would watch all this footage and we just laugh and you know if it was You know if it it made us laugh it had the we almost had to put it in the film, you know, and so Um, you know, we just had the best time making it and it's it's a You know, it's full of just crazy characters Michael Hayes who's his warm-up session It's one of the fun. I think that's when we paused it which park Like Hays is vocal warm up. Oh Doing his runs.

I just liked the animated Michael Hayes with the south park mount that made me happy And that's I mean and everything ended even though we take kind of a light in sort of a lampoon kind of look at it It's all true. Oh, yeah, it's it's all it's just the way it happened This is you know, and you look at where they were set to go And for whatever reason, you know, whether it was insecurity on Michael's part or he really felt The WWF wasn't treating him the way they The interpretation I kind of took from it was he It wasn't as much about how they were treating him, but how they were going to treat the freebirds Where it was almost the from the the vibe I got from it was He wanted them to come in together, but him to be the forefront of it and maybe there was that disagreement there but to and I really don't I I it's hard to talk about this documentary and not spoil certain things. They wanted to wrestle him and him all uh almost famous They wanted him to be the face and plus the fact of They were gonna have to belt on him.

Mm-hmm. Yeah, and and the argument could be made That by Hays backing out it made Hogan, but for me Hogan was pretty well established by that point Yeah, right and to play what if in that situation It makes me wonder how that would have gone over because Vince was pushing Hogan so hard in that and the Hogan ego was starting to become the Hogan Yeah, it was gonna be question. Yeah, it was a question of when how was that gonna go right because you know with with Hogan That was gonna go over like a fart in church, right?

You knew that was going to happen, but As we were watching it I was starting to go over these scenarios in my mind. How do you sign that contract? How would that have changed the face and then you talk about it sounds all rages Anything wrestling related in the 80s is going to be so outrageous.

It's true Oh, yeah, because you a lot of people talking about the 80s being the X the decade of excess and there is no better illustration Than wrestling in the 80s. Oh, yeah, especially now, you know, you see all these books coming out flares book is a prime example Yeah, if you've ever read to be the man. I mean it's You read you you you read about these stories of flair tells and How basically they had to sell the bit So everywhere they went the horseman partied you know danced all night and danced a little longer and they did D.

B. O. C.

talks about Vince came to me with this gimmick. I was the million dollar man. I flew on lear jets I rode in limousines.

I didn't travel with the boys because I had to sell the bit That book. I have a copy of Hitler signed. Oh, I read it because you told me to And I read it probably about three or four months ago, and I know what you're talking.

Is it not amazing is it yeah I'd like to see an updated version part two from the last 10 years I'm waiting for for triple H to finally write a book I've always said there's two guys. I really want books from triple H and taker because And you're not going to get takers book until he's officially done Because they've protected that character so much and he's really the only guy That can be that character anymore. You have you can't sell guys on characters anymore.

No, they've tried They've tried a couple of times at all sting I'm saying recently like in the last 10 to 15 and these these sting rumors He's gonna have a coronary. I'm telling you do this gray in my in my beard His hand is covered with dude. They're really seriously talking the rumble Yeah, but they do that with every major pay-per-view.

It's driving me nuts. It's getting kind of real dude So what are they talking about sting joining the WWE and that will be heard that that he may be there for the Royal Rumble in January Oh, wow. He's in the new game He's he's in WWE 2k 15.

Oh, okay, and it looks amazing It's it's ridiculously view they just released the best of sting a blu-ray set Which I have not bought yet because I'm really well tomorrow's the anniversary Oh, that's true And I if I've learned anything about being married to my wife for 11 years and being together for 15 It's I don't buy things for myself within two weeks of a holiday Now I did buy myself a t-shirt yesterday because I knew she wouldn't gonna be able to find it It's a it's a Batman t-shirt that looks like you're wearing a long sleeve shirt underneath it And it comes with a beanie. It's really kind of cool comes with the beanie It comes with a Batman beanie. Oh, okay.

You mean to talk a two okay. Okay. I suppose I'm sorry Like the sting thing like she would see that and know it's something that I want you know I may be dumb, but I'm not stupid Bitting on who you ask let's get back to talking about back on bad tree because I'm so excited like tonight How are you feeling right now?

Well, you know you you go through a the whole range of emotions because you're nervous that no one's gonna get it or you know You've been saying you're gonna have that problem my friend. Well, I mean, I think everyone at this table will get it But I just you're always a little nervous Especially at a film festival that you know the the type of crowd that sees independent documentaries may not be in the mood for Something this lighthearted, but I think you told the story in a way that people that didn't follow wrestling back then can still appreciate in it And I've got to talk about probably my favorite scene in the movie It's where you're you've got the footage of Michael doing the concert at the sportatorium or no is that at the army Right, okay, well, maybe what's the story of the story and what happens when yeah, what happens? Oh with buddy Yeah, and I I looked at you know, come on.

I go to shadow watch this scene because What kill and if you don't mind me saying what what happens a little bit How careful they were Oh, I know it's like, but there's a monitor. I need to be over here Yeah, and you can you can see Frank Ducic over there Tapping buddy. It's pointing at the guitar It's like oh come on.

I mean, this is so stage That's it, but at the same time Something went wrong And he just cracked Michael's head open You showed that from and people that don't understand what it's called the El Cabong moment I'm not gonna go deep into it, but I will tell you this. I don't know how you found that many angles of that shot I was like this is like nine angles the shot he's got the thing is All of this footage we got footage from really two sources the the GWF footage came from Gray Pearson who was the president known or GWF and then the rest of it came from Jimmy Papa And Jimmy's gonna be here tonight. I thought to him on the way So I got to introduce him absolutely, but it's all his footage I mean, he had all this one-inch and three-quarter-inch and beta SP and all this stuff and we transferred Well over a thousand dollars for the stuff just You know, that's one That's one uh load that we had to look through So the only person that every time Jimmy was on screen.

I could hear journey in my head I don't know why, but every time I saw Jimmy I could hear the opening of don't stop believing in my head It's so much fun. I was hoping for more. Yeah, that's that was like I only gripe about this I want a supercut.

I want to see for cut one thing you can do because I've had people come up to me and say I wish there was more story time with Jimmy And which we have like seven other Minute and a half episodes that that one of the things you put up on Facebook the other day was that from the movie No, these are all not from the movie. So everything that's on Facebook right now is extra footage is extra that You know, and there's seven of them and they range from The first time Jimmy went to their apartment to You know bloody uh Michael After getting his head busted open on the turnbuckle Getting getting into his van and going into a liquor store covered in blood and that looks shady at all No, not at all, but you know, but back then It just it was what it was. I can't help but think that that night was probably the night He decided to record the wrong Simmons entrance theme.

Oh, I want to copy of that real bad Just we literally go. No, that was another moment that thing fired up. I'm like this is not about to happen This is oh my god, Michael.

He's is rapping This is and it's funny because you know when we first heard it I don't have asthma, but that song gave me asthma Because and my wife the first time she heard it She was hysterical and actually fell on the floor because she couldn't believe But you know, he was saying you know listen tomorrow and listen today and like Is he a better rapper than a singer or I mean I turn it into that guy The lyrics like that are only available through linen in my cart. Yeah I turned into that guy from WrestleMania 30 after the undertaker loss that was Oh, we back in the deer in the headlights guy I was like I almost I want to rewind this, but I don't get the same time I can't do this to myself. Well then after as we were watching that Chad actually found the version They ended up using for Ron Simmons.

Oh, yeah on YouTube. I'm like that is the same. It's long Yeah, but it's it's actually the you know, it's actually guy that can actually wrap And it wasn't um, you know, whatever nonsense Michael was throwing out there, but it was funny I'll tell you something I read the other day Did you know who he was dating a couple of years ago who Michael Hayes?

Yes, no Even Stop it. No, not even um Who's the girl that used to be with Los Madadoras? It's time I use the Mendez.

Okay, Rosa really? Yes, and apparently Remember when she had her her re her backsliding a couple years ago with the drinking of the party in because of him He took the brunch for that. Oh, well, I heard I read anyway that he Was out with her after she'd gotten out of rehab and then he got Suspended yeah because he was out partying with her with her And I think that was the answer they were talking about and now she's dating one of the Los Madadoras I can't remember which one.

I don't think it's primo. It's the other one. Okay.

That doesn't creep me out nearly as much as knowing that she was dating Michael But see you don't you know as I do love Michael Hayes But I will tell you the one thing about Michael Hayes. If I have to pick something creep me out It was his wardrobe when he was managing the hearty boys. I do not need to see Michael Hayes in and and basically in Holy leggings and under armor In circa 2000 With his hair was wet as theirs and he's got the hair cape going on because his his hair lies not receding.

It's retreating It's oh That was the dark chapter for exactly. He was still Doc Hendrix at that point. Nothing like nothing like Doc Hendrix wearing neon shirts with a mesh shirt over it That was pretty much it.

Yeah, he looked like a walking sausage But and see for guys like us who are wrestling historians and in me is specifically because I've You know, I've watched wrestling basically my whole life. Oh, yeah, I mean and Just just to see it's good for me to see those stories come out and just Yeah, for people can laugh at it and they can point fingers And it's like but then you're gonna go home and watch Gray's Anatomy Yeah You're gonna go home. I watch arrow.

Okay, you're gonna go home and watch arrow. You're watching the same things Stephen Amell even said on Facebook three weeks ago. Hey, WWE when can I come host raw so you would lose your mind my brain would explode Finally a guest host on a raw that you would actually be interested in I think if if I had to name a true man crush Stephen Amell is it this guy gets it that would be a high on raw as opposed to the low of Hota Cuckby and I don't know about that Hota Cuckby and Kathie Lee Gifford were on raw this past week doing a segment.

You're kidding I know I wish to god. I was Stick ice picks in your ears and your eyes and it's a it's a less painful experience. Oh no And Hota would know was Kathie Lee was plugging her new wine.

It's available and find the liquor store Did I think she implied a case of before she walked out there or a box of one of the two Don's back with us. What's up sir? Did you hear that boy?

Oh god see here's the problem and then what happened with but chance favorite wrestler here's the problem When you do a live event in Brooklyn at the bar case center you have to bring your A game because that New York crowd Has about this much tolerance for crap. It's just like Chicago and Pittsburgh But but Brooklyn's worse. Oh, yeah, Brooklyn's where Chicago's almost as bad But anytime you're in especially in your in Brooklyn.

It's not like you're at the garden You are in Brooklyn. Okay, when the bar case center opened there were people peeing outside That's oh that's if you want to know you're an ACW's you are playing And to put on a lackluster I would rather watch a marathon of Downton Abbey than this Ouch I don't have nothing you saw the part with you know the mr. Gator in the ball.

Did you When the crowd the crowd said this is dude this is dude and then now it's was even bringing up twice I might add once during the match the one that in that segment but you know it you watched that whole episode And everything that sucked Ten minutes of that show made up oh yeah two and a half hours because The rock showed up When that theme hit you could literally hear a collective thank god in that JR and them had no idea they thought it was when it first happened. Who? I mean I know but the king said he had no idea and when a hit they thought there's gonna be like Pritchie coming out in the rock music.

Well, they said if you went to Twitter that night right before it happened Yeah, he tweeted it. We are live in three two and send the music yet and again Again the proving why nobody in the business can cut a promo like Dwayne Johnson. No one He why he's not in the Hall of Fame now Because he's still my wrestler.

There's talking to him taking on Rusev I don't think so. I think that was a one shot. No, they're talking about a WrestleMania for me There's also rumor of a rock triple H match at WrestleMania that I would be a treat on a certain level Yes, but I'll tell you why no Stop taking these old guys and putting them on the main stage.

You have to develop your younger talent That's why you don't if you don't develop your younger talent these guys will be too old one day Undertaker I'm talking you. Yeah, and Well, everybody what are you you're gonna wind up With your butt in your hands because you can't oh, well who's gonna be on our main event because we've been doing nothing But rock and Lesnar for the last five years you have to bring you have to go You know what we have to bite the bullet here. Yeah, we have to push this younger talent And I'm also reading this week that those vignettes we saw on Monday night They're separating Harper and brought and the other guy from Bray Wyatt They're gonna do their own thing and they're gonna bring in the ascension and he's now gonna be with the ascension Who are your current NXT tag champs?

I see Now you got to figure though that take everybody can understand that because of the streak right? Yeah, that was a given but beyond that Lesser but let her even knows. Yeah, I can't do this for matters in it And but it's still allowing him while the streak was going on was cool, you know, that was not a problem But when you got Brock Lesnar who's not even gonna be at the the champion who's not even gonna be at a pay-per-view right?

I don't understand how they're doing how on a cell the way they're doing it How on the cell was designed for a championship match and now you're gonna do well or a real grudge Like the DX or French and China and all that in the middle. Well now Cena's gonna wrestle Dean Ambrose and whoever wins that gets Seth Rollins in the in the cell I mean, I'm so gonna watch it. You know, I'm gonna watch it It's gonna be right down the road the American Airlines Center a friend of the show Russell Goodwin just texted me today He's gonna go he's going to see it on my if not we'll be at the end this close look We are gonna be at an undisclosed location.

Um, I As far as I know I haven't heard otherwise, but I will double check. What's going on? Oh?

I'm sorry. You had this look on your face Um, I'll be um Okay, then there goes Don He's he is an ninja on this show sometimes I just it it frustrates me You know, I mean he's new when to give it up Right, you know, I can't sit here honestly until you That I felt Michael Hayes as a wrestler went longer than he had to Michael Hayes as a wrestler knew when to get out of the business now. He's still involved in the business Sure and and to me that's that to me that's the logical progression Why Rick Flair cannot get it through his head His best friend who's been his best friend for 35 years Arn Anderson has been a road agent for the better part of 20 years and I know he's got to go Too Rick and go dude This is the gig we get to still be on the road.

We get to hang out together We get to develop the new talent. We don't have to work out every day We can just hang out and drink beer and watch these kids work right my brain doesn't follow how that's not logical Yeah, and how old is it? I mean what is it?

Flair's 60? I mean got to be older than that I'll look it up, but I mean Hogan I think Hogan just turned I know Vince is in the 70s now And that drives me you know, I live in a world where Vince McMahon is over 70 and that just doesn't sit well with me You know still and still got the best hair in the business When he shaved his head after the whole Donald Trump thing right right his hair took years to recover from that boy in 1949 So he's now who's Flair yep, so Flair is 65. Yeah So oh, so I thought Vince was over 70 Fair enough But we're we're at that point now where these the company has to realize We have to bring up that next generation because since Vince really doesn't have any competition You can't bring in these established guys anymore.

You know, you've got there's there's a handful of guys I think in TNA that you know, we did a list on this show about two years ago that I did a list of Top 10 guysman's has to sign right now Because they're in their prime and he's he's actually signed a few of them but I just Sometimes you have to be able to You just have to take a risk and go look We need this younger talent. We have to foster them now So when you get to WrestleMania, you have established stars right And then one of your established stars has emergency hurting a surgery before a pay-per-view And maybe out until the rumble I just I don't know Give me give me the book give me the book and a blank check. Yep.

I've said it for years. Give me the book for a year But then it'll be all staying all the time I'll be happy Sting against himself Now they did that once you did hear about that though when they first released the DVD set That on the back they had the fake sting is one of the Oh, no, they had to recall a fall and read it and read this No Fail Oh, I couldn't have I got one of those not to be kidding. No, that happened.

I was like it's like a Beatles butcher cover But tonight man, we're you're less than an hour away from this thing We're gonna do everything we can to be in the room We've got one interview that we're kind of sort of your way to throw on yeah, and if we can get that done I do truly want to be in the room because number one you've been so great to us Oh coming and doing the show we had great to be so much fun come on your show That was I tell you when I was on your show last time That was so much fun for me just to watch you guys work and I was I was telling my wife. I went these guys These guys are as good as anybody I've ever heard Oh, thank you so much anywhere. I mean it was nonstop Just information jokes It was it was the fastest two hours or two and a half hours I was just sitting there's like oh crap And we were spitballing like a half hour before we even got on the yeah, we did actually we were supposed to ask him something about a king text where we not Was that key something or 90 something because they told us to look it up on YouTube, but I tried not could find it 90 something early 90s and it was one of the first things we ever did in CG before Jimmy Neutron before any of that other stuff But it was an open for the festival in which you know Big text and we couldn't use the name big text right, but if so it was king text comes to life and you know runs a muck in Downtown Dallas and and he said somebody found it on YouTube somebody put it up on YouTube and I can look I keep looking for it.

I can't find it. I'm still typing in all these different strings to try to pull it up I would love to see that I'm trying if I can find the copy of it anywhere. I'll send it to you Oh, yeah, absolutely because I think that's greatness.

I actually got to go to the fair last week On the day the world is really really nice out that Friday my mom was in town So I was like I'll see what goes into trying to try any of the Fried whatever I kind of stuck to why we did we did the new girl shrimp. That was really good I'm on a kind of tutorial now. I got to have my fletcher's corny dog I got to have my barbecue below any sandwich those guys have been there for 46 years And so they're like yeah, we're gonna start doing doing in-store stuff.

I'm like I'm in I don't know why, but this is one of the greatest things ever. Oh, yeah Did you notice sir? Did you hear that your Super Bowl halftime show has been announced?

Yeah, it is one Tady Perry After that debacle on college came day where she basically told Oklahoma's quarter back to collar I Know you're gonna be excited about sir, and I know you're on pins and needles about this And I'm sorry. I've waited this long to tell you 2015 will bring you a new bejork album So be prepared for that. I don't dislike your kind of just never been a huge fan.

I like human behavior I like that song that was basically it. I just a big time sent you out. Yeah, I did like that one too.

She's Yoko Ono 2.0 I'm saying But I don't know if you saw this Keith, but they did announce the nominees for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame class for next year Oh, who is it? We've and this is the long list. They're gonna give us the actual inductees.

I believe in January It's not moving. I think so sting as a solo artist I don't know how I feel about that you already he's already in with the police. Yeah, it's happened a couple of times though Also Lou Reed as a solo artist velvet underground already in Lou Reed as a solo artist That you know that's it you know that's happening.

You know that's happening. Yeah, I was never a big Lou Reed fan I mean, I'll never deny what he did for the industry um But other than that the spinners that was a surprise nomination for me. I'm a big fan.

Just watch their unsung But that was a that was a surprise nominee for me. I'm I'm in I don't know that they get in But I hope they do Joan jet and the black hearts Didn't realize they weren't in I was like how would they not in the hall of fame? I'm still confused on the criteria sometimes.

It's 25 years after your first single releases Okay, that's what I thought it was. Okay Also the Paul Butterfield Blues band they were actually nominated last year and didn't get in okay So this is so they yeah, this is this is the long list came out that yesterday. Nine inch nails Yeah, now that one I can see I mean me personally.

I'm a fan I think it might have been too soon for them a little bit later Not just yet Not if not if Paul Butterfield Bluesman's not in so I'm saying uh craft work I can see that. Yeah, I don't know my dog having roll hollow. I got doxie on front of our team shows huge craftwork fan the marvelets I just watched their unsung the other day.

Boy you talk about unstable You you you ever just want to watch an hour of instability watch unsung on the marvelets It's my brain melted about halfway through a war Eric burdens band. Yeah, hello writer now. I'm gonna come back to we be friends It's during with teaching Chong right now a guy that I cannot believe is not in the rock and roll hall of fame And when I heard this I wanted to throw my head through a wall.

Stevie Ray Vaughn is not in the rock and roll hall of fame Oh, wow one of my absolute favorite artists Yeah green day also on the list That's NWA it's on the list this year If rendy I'm see can go in and so can they they can but That acceptance speech is gonna be read Your hand on the brother Drazy only one talking even even come on now. I mean HBO's going this might be a little much for us No, I don't know because you look how look how homogenized cube has got I used to be all this and yeah, yeah, yeah, the Smiths Yeah, yeah, I'm I'm kind of done with them You've got you're a millionaire Morris. He stopped.

Yeah, I want you to press all the time Sheek Why they're not in his beyond into that Nile Rogers alone should be in the rock and roll hall of fame and the drummer Tony Thompson. Is that his name? I think so I like him a lot and he was with power station and That's right power station that that that is probably album It's like oh, we're gonna take some time off from Durand Durand.

Hey, Robert Palmer. You got anything going on? Okay, let's make a band sure And lastly and guy that I know guy should have been in years and years and years ago Bill withers a man Bill withers is not in the rock and roll hall of fame Use me is one of the greatest songs ever written it.

I'm gonna say it on this show and ain't no sunshine Oh, come on lovely day is one of my favorites. Yeah, of course, you know the default lean on me Yep, and plus black street sampled him in no dig and he get your dog on right. They did We have another guest joining us right now from the film lost cat found He is Aaron Holloway welcome to the show sir.

Talk right to that microphone. Sorry. I can hear you Hey, buddy.

How you doing? I'm welser. How are you?

I'm doing great You're your show part of the voices heard compilation tonight. Yes, sir. Are you aired yet?

Are you? It's just air Okay, so you just got finished Tell me about the show. How long is the film?

You know, it's uh, I like less this more so five minutes. Okay. I mean a 20-minute short film for me is a lot a lot And what we found is a lot of these films that are being featured in the voices heard compilation summer this long summer this long Well, you know, I mean, it's easy to just let your film go and go and go and not to say that there You know, I don't want to disqualify or discount anybody that's that shooting When you're shooting a short less is more.

Yeah, stay as Well, and if you can tell the story you want to tell in five minutes you tell the story you want to tell in five minutes If you want to tell a story you want to tell an hour and a half you tell it in an hour and a half If I want to do it now and a half there'll be a feature film and it'll be a done deal So a couple who goes on a mission to retrieve their lost cat, you know I have two They are children. So if one of them goes missing I probably lose my cold Yeah, I mean this this honestly kind of Came out of nowhere in a sense. I mean, I shoot a lot of stuff a lot a lot of stuff And me and a cinematographer of mine haven't shot anything in a long time.

I mean like a year So a year's a long time for us because me and he says You know, I just got I just got hired to do a direct photography role. They want my real. I really haven't shot anything in a year and a half Um, let's just do something.

That's okay. I was like, okay. All right.

Cool. Give me a week. I'll write something So I write this scene which Not two weeks ago actually happened really and it was uh So essentially my wife.

She's pregnant at the time. She calls me. She's freaking out our cat.

I've been gone for two weeks She calls me and she'd been on Facebook. Well, I was at work. You know, obviously, I guess you know these things happen I'm sure to everybody And she calls me and she says, you know, uh, I just found our cat and I'm like, oh great.

You know, fantastic She's like, no, no, you get put down tomorrow morning at 9 a.m. Oh At the animal control center and I was like, fuck him on my home right now. We get there.

I print out all these goddamn signs I print out and can I get a family friendly, but we'll let that one right so I print out at least a hundred sides. We go to the animal control clinic. I'm banging on all the windows I'm taking tape and signs all over this entire I mean, dude, I have taped all the way across every gateway everything I mean nobody is going to walk into this facility without seeing the phone number in my cat And I go around the back corner and a door so And I just happened and this is you know, I'm telling you my film, but this is a true story And so I just walk in and immediately I'm caught off guard and I'm like, well, you know, this is kind of strange And I keep going in and then and then I'm saying hello.

Hello. Hello I'm thinking there's gonna be like some sort of guard that's gonna taste me at some point It don't taste me, bro. And literally my wife calls me and I am in the cage room with with all the cats All like I mean, I'm talking about like rose rose just walking in like you on the place and Mozart music And because it calms him down right it was a terrible thing for sound for me when I shoot it But yeah, so lo and behold Didn't find the cat we get home the cats back in the bathroom I've been two weeks later.

I'm sitting here like washing my face off and I turn around after going to this place And my cat's just sitting right by just hanging out. Oh, that's a great time. Good.

Good time. And that's fine. So It tells me to when he tells me to ride something.

I'm like, all right. Let's just do this This is happening and the best part of it was we shot at the actual clinic that I went into you know, so so no hard feelings Well, I mean Well, I shot a camp. I didn't honestly tell them that.

Sorry, but I shot a campaign video for I'm for like foster like all their fostering programs Oh, nice. I pitched that coming in to be able to shoot in the clinic and then Have had full rain Like why does this look so? Oh, no, no, exactly It was uh, I mean, I'm not I'm proud of the film.

I think it's fun, but you know, it's not my like direct-toral debut You know, how to go though. Oh, really good. So and that's a fun The program in there so far, which you just caught me getting a drink so I'm missing something and I'm sure that's amazing But there's some really good strong films in there.

I've been liking them a lot I do think they're a little too long some of them, but they have a lot of really great meat to them like the story Like I said, you tell the story that you want to tell But I mean, that's the point of shorts is like get it out as much as you can in a short format before you Make somebody pay eight dollars to get some stick and move stick and move anything you want to shamelessly plug So we don't keep too much of your time So thank you. I'm gonna go back to the bar and then we'll go back tomorrow. We appreciate having air and hallway lost cat found as part of Dallas video fest 27 27 we're 10 away from the magic number stop Why is 37 the magic number?

I'm a big Kevin Smith fan. Ah, so because of that You know what then you I said, you know, I turned 42 next year. So next year I get to be the ultimate answer for a year Because I'm a big hitchhiker sky from the galaxy.

Oh, that's right But let's go back and talk about some music new releases front of the show Gary We're just walked in good to see you sir Thanks for hanging out music new releases this week Bob Seeger has a brand new album out this week I read something about this call right out Is it is it is it a cover album? Oh, that I don't know Well, it was not usually my source tells me that I didn't say that Uh, Florida, Georgia line. I don't get the bit But they have a brand new album out called anything goes on Tuesday.

What they also wonder on recent They were now they were on the pay-per-view, sir. Oh, that's right uh And note to John Travolta Indina Menzel has a new album out this week Coming up called holiday wishes because you know we're about to get inundated with holiday albums true Jesse J who was just on good morning America this past week. She has a brand new album out called sweet talker Keep that a head out for a couple.

He'll be back in a minute. All right. Fair enough.

He's got you ready for his movie We got friend of the show Gary. We talked a little headlines real quick. Yeah, Gary welcome to the show sir How are you?

I'm just doing fine. How's it going with you guys man? We've been going two hours and 20 minutes strong now Well with me is my goddaughter Breonnie Breonnie, you got to talk right to that thing really.

Hi. How are you? Hello, dear I said you may have to stand up just to get to the microphone You don't get to sit down and this is the first time she's ever been on the radio.

Oh outstanding Welcome, or we're very glad you're here and just we're just talking about stuff And if you want to say something say something if you don't don't work cool either way, man So tell them what we did tonight. What'd you do? We went to a haunted house tonight at What was it cookers?

It's called the dark hour. Yes Is that the one up there in Plano? Yep, where they actually had the haunted house like all year around and they do different themes and stuff All right, did you did you punch anybody for scaring you actually know?

Okay, I would walk around and if take anybody down I can't do haunted houses man. I can't do it. They freaked me out and I worked in one for years We the first time I met him.

We've worked at a haunted house together I don't do the horror movies at work. They want to decorate our area like that in that Annabelle theme and that's kind of freaking me out It's it made a bunch of money last weekend came in with second at the box office something like that Yeah, very very well. I miss the press screening of it.

Oh for the audience I'm the president of the North Texas Film Critics Association, which we are members of thank you very much sir. I am also I write for big fanboy.com and I write for Zellik film services Outstanding and I see all the movies well most of the movies Oh, we were just talking about a new albums coming out this week Melvins have a brand new album coming out this weekend. No whenever I think of Melvins I think of PCU because that was a t-shirt that Favreau was wearing was for the Melvins and and Piven said wait a minute You're wearing the t-shirt.

Oh, that's what that came from and you're about to be that guy I a weird PCU thing. Okay, I am They give out free stuff to the movies all the time. They give out like t-shirts Cups I never catch anything and all sorts of oh who has you got a Shrek doll There you go.

Who did you catch it? Who got the dragon from how to train your dragon? We got that Don't don't say that real out of our dark because if you've got a dragon thing and Don doesn't have it.

Oh But anyway, I a guy in a real well JB Cook. He is a writer for a king of the hill wrote for My name is Earl. I said a lot of stuff here.

Okay. He's very good friends with David Spade David Spade was talking. Oh, he'd has nothing from any of his movies Spade doesn't spade has no posters really no Cups know anything of that promotional stuff and it was nowhere of them and I was like I was talking to JB and I was like dude I got boxes of this.

Yeah, no kidding. I said let me make you be a box. I sent David's I was sending him a copies of a black sheep The the um the poster black sheep the cups from PCU the shirt from PCU.

I love that movie so much The the little note pads from PCU just all this That movie was I just one of my favorite scenes is hey dreads. Can you give me a ride back to my frat house? You brought George Clinton here Uh, okay, go has a brand new album coming out this week called hungry ghosts the game Why is he still considering himself that is not your point?

I wasn't gonna say you're of the wolf you be 40 has a brand new album coming out this week really called silhouette And where does the name you be 40 come from? Uh, it's what they got told after they turned 39. No, it's the form that you fill out to get free money from the British government Yeah, it's actually the Jamaican unemployment form.

Oh, it's Jamaican. I thought it was a British I could be wrong, but I always thought it was the Jamaican one and I just I listed this on here just because I love the name of the band I don't know who they are. I have no idea what they do the album is called unraveling But the band is named we were promised jet packs I just I loved I don't know why I find that hilarious That is a cool name.

It is a great name. It's a panic at the disco awesome Moving new releases coming out this coming week fury, which I don't Gary you and Donald We're seeing on Wednesday. I believe that yes with Brad Pitt and apparently I read that the Shedded booth really like injured his face because he didn't like the makeup job they were doing and he was supposed to be having an injured face So he did it himself.

Oh, no, because he's a little crazy Um also coming out next week a movie that uh we're not gonna get the screen tomorrow and I'm very very bummed out about it The book of life. I really want to see this film. What am I looking at?

Yes Oh, it is British for the day. Okay, it is British um For book of life. They're having uh two parties.

Yes Yeah, they're having one ingredients tomorrow great vine mills on Sunday Where you could win a $50 of a $50 gift card. They're giving me nothing So and they're giving out passes for the movie for the run of the show and this movie looks so cute It's uh, it's a CGI animated movie a Zoe Saldana Channing Tatum Basically, it's got that look of the day of the dead which is the day after Halloween And there's two gods that are have a bet of which one of these two gentlemen of the ladies gonna pick well the the mean God starts to lose his bet and so he bans the the guy that he's bet against to the underworld and he has to fight his way back It looks gorgeous I love the animation style. I'm I'm this one may I may go pay see next weekend Well, you know it um, it's made from a company here in Dbellum.

Oh, is it really? It's it's a Dallas company that did it outstanding support local artist The best of me Because right now we can't get enough of these depressing teen dramas. We need one of those as well A bird man Very interested in there.

Oh, yeah, I'm screening it on Wednesday same day's fury Oh, so you're doing both of them in one day? No, I got to make a choice. Oh So I'm choosing fury.

I thought you had already made the choice. Yeah, if I was not mistaken. Oh well There's they screened it last weekend.

I couldn't make it. So I was gonna do this week and then they popped up with uh With uh fury So I'm going fury if you doubted that we were live from the Alamo If you heard them screaming showtimes in the background now you know We are live from the Alamo draft house in Richardson as part of Dallas video fest 27 We are now going two hours and 26 minutes strong So we are approaching stupid boat movie time Dear white people A movie coming out that I'll be screening Wednesday night while you guys are at fury and the director is coming into town Yes, yes looks very very funny very very humorous mockumentary and a movie called young ones Looks very very good as well at DVD and blu-ray new releases this week One of my favorite films of the year X-Men days of future past oh yes one of them now You may want if you subscribe to this show on iTunes You may want to listen next week Because there's a movie coming out that I started my review by saying could is trying to be my favorite film of the year That we saw but we're not going to talk about just yet Uh, yeah Exactly at the 40th anniversary of Texas chainsaw massacre The blu-ray packaging comes in the truck. I don't know if you're intrigued by that sir slightly okay Mr.

Peabody and Sherman was that was not a great movie it was an awesome movie I love that movie so much and I was a fan of the original cartoon when I was younger than you if you can imagine that I've seen like little clips of it but I've never watched it you never watched the whole thing no because when we bought it It came with like this little package with the some of parts of the cartoon So I didn't get to like actually see it It's so good. I was saying and they treated it so respectfully the material was great There was a lot of great little Easter eggs for people that were fans of the original series like myself Go what penny dreadful season one. We don't normally talk about TV DVDs on this show, but I have heard none of people have been telling me dude you have to watch penny dreadful Especially if you haven't seen enough of Eva green.

She's in this too But I've heard amazing things also season one of Fargo Which got a lot of Emmy nominations this year and they're what they're doing with season two is they're completely changing Everything all of the cast and the storyline for season two of Fargo is going to be completely different I'm speaking of things of that nature. We didn't cover this in TV talk The guy that directed season one of American horror story Right is doing a new series is going to be called American crime story and season one will deal with the OJ story Oh God was announced this week My darling Clementine. It's the criterion collection treatment A movie called nothing bad can happen releases on DVD employee this week.

This is not a movie. I will see Because something tells me that's the only thing that does happen Basically, it's about a guy who gets He thinks he's getting his life saved from addiction by a religious cult And then things get worse WWE fans because we had to have this we we begged for this we lobbied for this Don already has three copies reserved It's called John Cena's greatest rivalries I will this guy's not hogan Is not over and um but a movie that don true. We did enjoy comes out on DVD this week Whitey the United States of America versus James J.

Bolger. No You can't be careful careful Which when you do that it goes right in my ears. Yeah, I saw that thing.

Yeah, it dipped there. It was a bear You saw that at the doubt show and you really enjoyed that. I see I didn't show it a couple of weeks ago So there's that Let's see anything else going on that we need to talk about while we are waiting to see if we have one more guest to join us We are live from the opening weekend of Dallas video best 27 our normal show is Sunday nights at seven Eastern four Pacific We are your one-stop shop for all things sports and entertainment, but since tonight we're here at Dallas video fest We're going to be more entertainment heavy Because we do we do tailor the show every once in a year.

Yes, I'm over there sir Well, I just cast my vote for the 2015 Rockwell Hall of Fame. Oh, you can do that. Yes, you can Is it on the Rockwell Hall of Fame website rockhall.com.

Yes, you can cast your vote Are you interested in who's in the in the in the believe running? I'm looking at it I mean you can tell or you can tell the Empire, but how far down should I go top 10 top five? We've got time, okay Make the call Number 10 right now is NWA with 4.13 percent of the vote The Smiths are number nine with 4.95 Staying is eighth with 5.34 percent bill withers 5.60 at number seven bill withers.

She needs to be higher on that. Let's please Number six Lou Reed at 6.50 You see nice. I'm like Dylan So does he know number five is Joan jetten the black cards at 6.65.

I'm a fan. Yeah, number four is craft work at 8.37 Doc's happy about that number three green day with 13.66 Yeah, but I just don't know if it's it might be a little too soon for the new in the rockwell Hall of Fame Though, but you got to remember the internet generation that they're part of the internet generation They're going to get those votes the top two I'm very happy with. I'm sure you are Number two nine inch nails.

Don't agree. Oh, yeah 16.23 percent. Don't agree and number one I still don't understand how he's not in the rockwell Hall of Fame.

I don't understand this. Stevie Ray Vaughn It's 17. Why do you have a bond not in the rockwell Hall of Fame?

Because he's a blues guy Is what I probably think we are two steps from communism. Do you understand what I'm saying on this? I actually met Stevie Ray Vaughn once really tell that story.

Okay. It was not a big story Oh goodness. I was living in Austin with buddy mine We went to a Binagans and we walk in and and these two guys are sitting in the bar and I go That's Stevie Ray Vaughn and my friend goes no dude.

That's Eric Johnson beside him And I was like oh, yeah, that's Eric Johnson, but that's Steve Ray Vaughn And and was we said at a table and I go dude, let's go talk to him Oh, no, I mean because he was a guitarist because no, I don't want to look bad And I said dude when's the last time you get to meet Steve Ray Vaughn right and and Eric Johnson come on So we walked over and they were on the bar and we introduced ourselves shook their hands and that was about it But it's still I'm in the I met Steve Ray Vaughn category Simon concert three times got closer than I ever did sir Everton and I saw Austin City limits Saim when they opened when they were with with the who They really see Ray Vaughn in the who no no the who played Dallas Steve Ray Vaughn opened for them also had a they had a show a free show at the The the police station they had up all the setup where the police station was they had these giant stages Steve Ray Vaughn came out and played for like an hour and a half out of lost my mind Yeah, and it was free show. I walked right up front. I was as close to his Ray Vaughn as I am to you I was maybe I was maybe three feet away from C-Ray Vaughn Yeah, my brain would have melted absolutely These are moments that you're just like can I go in it back in the past with my camera phone Yeah, and the first time I ever saw him is I was living in Austin walking down the street with a buddy of my adonic walk And there was this guy blazing at a at a bar And I was like wow who's that and the and the uh the the The dormant thank you he goes he goes.

Oh, that's a Jimmy Vaughn of the Thunderbirds little brother Steve Oh, yeah, and I was like really and Don knew the guy the the the dormant and the dormant goes hey Don Why don't you just come in and watch this? Oh, I was good to see him for free So I actually never paid to see Steve Ray Vaughn and I saw him three times. Oh for it to count the T-Birds River Fest Because I like the fabulous Thunderbirds a lot of them are very underrated just because Jimmy was his little brother and I just I've always loved the vibe they threw down.

There's actually a picture at a local musicians place. That's Jimmy Stevie Robert Kray and Clapton all just together in one picture. Yeah.

Oh, that was that was the River Fest. Was it that was the uh Yeah, the uh, that was the lineup at the River Fest basically. Yeah, T-Bird and River Fest Oh, also Bonnie Ray and Dave Edmunds Is it Bonnie Ray very underrated as a guitarist?

Yeah, and Robert Kray. I mean, I could go on for hours because I'm a big Robert Kray fan. The Robert Kray amazing Yeah, but they all played and it was like they were all playing at the end all the four of them came out and played Played together and Steve Ray came out and played with them all because he was even planned to be there It was like a surprise that he showed up and played at the very end of the show With the Thunderbirds Those are kind of surprises.

I needed my life. You know what I'm saying. Yeah It was a great show So Gary, let's talk a little bit about video Fest 27.

I know you're you're here covering some things Anything that you really stand out that you that that's really staying out that you want to see that this year Nothing is just jumping out at me right now. I I've you know, I've been so busy Swamp through everything else that I really haven't had a chance to dig into it I'm probably gonna catch some of the documentaries because it's the only place you can see the docs Oh, yeah, one of the things that we talked about when we had the media roundtables a couple weeks ago Tomorrow night Metals at the wind spear right of spring. Yeah, we had the director of the Of that film Meta right of spring is a ballet Based on a classical piece of music and we watched we got so they have a trailer for us that they showed us It's Not for the kids.

Yeah, we'll tell you that But it looks amazing And getting hearing this guy talk about the film and his process and what he went through He is a professor at SMU and it looks really really really really well done And I was I was fascinated by him. He's actually working on a project right now where they're They're learning they're trying to teach more about how stretching does and then what it does for people And he's actually working with the football team One of the guys that he had working with him working different stretching techniques like took Three tenths of a second off of his 40 time Wow, yeah, it's his he I could have listened to that guy talk for hours because he was very he's very engaging and I'm very much looking forward to that Friday night We're just talking a little while ago. Very sure.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, I know you know, that's gonna be a lot of fun and Yeah, but you you didn't really dig spinal tap did you I Think because it just got built up too much and it was so it was it was so long into its release Way because he just saw like last year. No, no, no, no, it's it's been about four years And I liked it, but as you know, he had it been built up so much by so many people I just like it was never gonna live up to my expectation Yeah, it's like a friend of mine hates the movie analyze Because he was the last person there. He was the last person to see it And he thought he was built up so much in his mind And there I was going no, no, no, the best thing is this no, no, the best thing is that He knew all the scenes in the movie.

Let's see. That's one thing I can't do is talk You know if I want him to see a film I can't talk about specific scenes because I want him to I can say how great a movie is and how much I enjoy it But I don't want to ruin certain scenes for because I want him to see them for himself. Yeah, but we've got another person here Who's just innocent or quietly Anything In front of a microphone.

That's kind of that's kind of what we do Okay movies you're looking forward to seeing right now that are coming out the book of life looks good Yes, I want to go that one. Um, I can't I haven't seen any other ones hunger games No, the the second one was really bad really because I really enjoyed the second one I like it was like the first 40 minutes of the movie and it was still You know pulling itself together getting ready for the climax. It was Pretty bad.

I loved it. I love it first. I love the second one.

The first one was a little slow for me But the first one was awesome. The second one wasn't really see the differing opinions Wow, okay, let's see what else have we got coming out that we know of Or what haven't you seen that you want to see that's already out? Um That one that I listen to the book of life.

No, but like stuff that's already out that you haven't seen yet Um, I don't know I've gone to a lot of movies. I say Gary is her godfather But Gary can't see every movie he can try really hard but Gary can't see every movie Um, I will tell you something that we're going to need to do sometime soon sir And I think you know where I'm gonna go with this I still haven't seen either the first two hobbit films. Okay, and we need to do that.

Okay, and you can you know where I'm going Yeah, that could be arranged You can read the books faster than you can see the movies just keep that in mind. Oh, I know I was I was that would turn you a troll Okay, all right It's like a year old It doesn't matter I don't know like to be the master I can't I can't do it I can't I wouldn't break me out I would throw all four of them without flinching. See you're you are a more brave person than I my friend I just I can't do it.

Gary explain what I did in the haunted house. Oh, you're there She waved and laughed at all the ghost and monsters. Yeah, I like I said you're a braver soul than I am my friend I did know we did we talked earlier about New York Comic Con Clooney showing up yep, and showing the teaser for tomorrow land So I'm I'm interested to go out and see that I haven't had chance to watch it yet.

Oh, you haven't seen the trailer yet No, I had no you gotta go find some food. Nothing wrong with that. Yes.

Yes. I am a little hungry myself. I'll be back All right, we'll be here.

Well, hopefully we'll be here. I I don't know that we're gonna be I don't know. Hold on.

I gotta Yeah, okay Done. Do we have an update on our other guests? Okay, fair enough We'll be right back.

I guess I gotta get her some food Okay, all right. All right. We are here live Dallas video fest 27 this weekend at the Alamo draft house Alrighty So tonight tomorrow and Sunday Monday night.

They're going to be at UT Arlington Which they've done a lot of great work down there just on rebuilding all the buildings and things of that nature Tuesday and Wednesday will be at the South Dallas Cultural Center There's going to be a focus on some Native American filmmaking Nathan building a beautiful building and then next Thursday Friday Saturday Sunday They'll be wrapping up Dallas video fest 27 at the Angelica Film Center And at Mockingbird Station if you know where that is locally our other home away from home If you what you can get passes that get you every film in The festival, but you've got to go to Dallas you have to go to videofest.org And you get everything you can see all the trailers for all the movies that are going to be featured a lot of documentaries as Bart said at the beginning of the show A more documentaries than they've ever had I really want to see that let's upload played here us. That's Sunday night Sunday night. Yeah Um, but you're more than welcome to do I will be otherwise occupied So there's that probably not going to be a Sunday show this week because we're doing this show tonight We've kind of unloaded the gun and everything as we are now at the two hour and 38 minute mark Yeah, come on Kelly You know, we we could have saved Kelly for the end of this for the end, but we're going to do it now But we're going to do it next week too.

We'll stuff Kelly on next week. Yeah, we're going to have our next week because she's one of our favorite people in the world This is the end of this one She is she is the great Kelly Kitchens because we've we've certainly is it is now state law that you just can't say Kelly Kitchens You have to put the great Kelly Kitchens So we're going to pass that legislation very soon PR woman extraordinaire The hardest working woman in show business. Yes And that's a good thing Of has been has been so kind to us but wasn't for her we wouldn't be doing this We wouldn't you know the last you the last three hundred and sixty three days.

I guess you could call it Yeah, you know everything that's happened is because of Kelly and so we love to have her on and she was with us in studio a few weeks ago So she got to witness that madness She's now seen both sides of the coin. How are you doing my friend? I am so fabulous.

I mean it is so wonderful to Have the festival going it started on Wednesday and so we're in day three and Yeah, just couldn't be happier. Is there anything that you are looking forward to seeing If you could pick a favorite child right now. Oh wow Well, I have to say that I am really really looking forward to To Harry Shere coming in for the club.

Oh, yes and You know I'm a big fan of the Simpsons of course and spinal tap. We have for playing spinal tap Do we have do we have a count on the number of voices he's done on that show? You know, I'm not sure because I know he's done some you know some guest quote and great roles Um, but yeah, he does Mr.

Burns Meathers and Ned Flanders. I mean how different are all three of those characters and the fact that what they're getting to screen spinal tap Is he going to be in attendance during the screening? I he's gonna be in attendance for the Q&A So yeah, yeah, that's come back.

Hello. Yeah, I mean, it's it's I'm such a fan of him and then the man announced him as getting the co-backs I was like well that is amazing and okay Do you want to be even more amazed? Okay, as a classic film lover as you are my friend Of course, it did some research and I was like who was his first film?

Any idea what his first film was? I couldn't even venture a guess You ready? I'm ready Abin and Costello go to Mars really when he was like nine or ten Is it gives me gives me chills to think oh my gosh.

I get to meet The man a man who worked with Abin and Costello. I absolutely When I was a kid, if they were on TV, I was locked in oh completely locked in me to 100 percent And you know what else he did that's really fascinating. I think Is he was The the on the pilot for leave it to beaver.

Uh-huh. You know what role? Uh-uh.

Eddie Haskell. He was Harry Shere was Eddie Haskell. Stop it seriously.

Awesome I would I would love is that out there? Somewhere it is and you know what we will have a clip of you know Tribute to him as well as to Ernie Kovax I mean, I mean Ernie Kovax is not really a known entity Um amongst our generation and he should be because he is was such an innovator with um With television with early television and we will have Uh, we will have clips of Ernie Kovax Um, and he did everything live. Yeah, I've got a best stuff.

I've got like a three-disk best stuff said Oh, I love Ernie Kovax. I'm half a year amazing and the fact he passed away at the age of 42 so sad but um Anyway, yeah, he's amazing and to do things live on TV um Back, you know in the in the 50s just brave stuff. I mean incredibly brave.

Really cool. So So we will have uh, you know a sort of an overview of Ernie Kovax and um Who the award is named after um, and it's really named after him because and has given two people that um are innovators in the television medium and I mean You know, it's so cool that that Harry's here is coming to town. He'll be here and So that is on friday October the 17th at Angelica Film Center in Dallas and then we're showing Spinal Tap Afterwards and you know, it's the 30th anniversary of Spinal Tap I am that old which is um You're older than that.

I was saying. I'm old enough to remember when it theatrically. I have a I have a voice count by the way Okay, oh you do take a guess 37 Okay, 12 How many voices Harry's here has done on the Simpsons.

This is America's new favorite game show I think you got a 25 down to 25 chat over 180 What As many characters as I've been on that show a lot of the more one-off and stuff like that Chad looked at our next guess, but we haven't even introduced him yet Director of the first person that we've had in the documentary short block featured on the show Make sure I can read this correctly is Andrew Garbis that I get that talk right into that microprice I reckon here you got all right directed a short a documentary short called soul Uh s-o-l salt salt okay, so is it is it the name or is it it's the name? Okay, go ahead and explain how long is the short first of all seven minutes seven wow From what I'm reading in this synopsis and you got this into seven minutes. I'm impressed go ahead and talk about it Yeah, so it's a short documentary about a middle-aged man who goes to visit his father with severe Alzheimer's And it just sort of follows the course of the visit the middle-aged man is played by my dad Oh, wow, and the Alzheimer's patients my grandfather wow So how did when you pitched this how did that go to them?

Hey, here's what I want to do and here's how I want you to do it And so it's a documentary about your family. Yeah wow Um, so my dad's been really supportive of my foam career for a while and we've tried to make this project Something about Alzheimer's on two occasions before when was the documentary one was a narrative I wasn't happy with the documentary and the narrative we never completed so During winter of last year, so last January This January actually Time blurs after a while I just remember because it was the in I'm from New York So the polar vortex was going on during that point. Okay um It was just freezing cold outside and we had the film part of the film takes place outside and so like We took a camera that probably shouldn't have been in Below 32 degree while they got eight degrees at that time.

Oh, just like yeah, we'll go for it And uh, so yeah, so we shot um in January and uh It was just it's something that I really wanted to do for a while um, I wanted to capture what Alzheimer's actually was is like I haven't seen a film that's like You know genuine captures Alzheimer's was the last area types that go along with me Um, but this is a very it's a very complex Uh, malady to have because there's so many different ways it can go. Yeah, and Mainstream media has kind of only treated really one side of it. I totally agree with you on that.

Yeah, and um So that that's basically it and then my grandfather Does he guys sound probably bad, but don't explain it. Okay, for him He's like he he was unaware during the filming that we were doing it his eyesight in the films like okay Completely poor so he can't see what the camera is um he doesn't know, you know who anyone is around him or anything So it was just a conversation between him and some other person. Okay, and um but The just you know, we believe both me and my father feel that like if he were like able to actually process what was going on He'd be in full-on support because like when I was a little kid he was always like go pursue your dreams That means being a filmmaker go be be a filmmaker That's wonderful.

That's such a that's so great that you've honored your grandfather by doing that absolutely and your father too That's uh that really touches me Do you have more footage that you would use to expand it or do you think you have what you need to tell the story that you want to tell I think I have what I need to tell the story that I want to tell and it's gonna air tomorrow Uh right here at the Alamo draft house in Richardson at two o'clock as part of the uh documentary shortblock Do you know where you're going to fall in the block or is it just going to show when it shows? I have no idea Um, I think I'll just show one shows. I'm pretty sure it's the shortest one on the block.

Okay, there it is 67-minute block. Oh wow Um, is are you still taking around other festivals? Are you kind of focusing in here?

Yeah, um, it's playing at Indie Fest USA and Garden Grove, California on the 16th Oh, so you're gonna see it here and then kind of just head out I guess Well, I go to school in Austin. So I can't like travel too much. Oh, okay.

Fair enough Just funny because the OU games this weekend and everyone's like why are you Oh, yeah Yeah, we were talking about tomorrow's my wedding anniversary and our wedding day was OU Texas And that was not fun. Hey, when my father got remarried it was it was Again, I'm like, why do we keep doing this? Why do you keep saying OU Texas?

It's because my wife's an OU fan so if you're an Oklahoma fan you refer to Oklahoma first. I know So there's that Yeah, and then uh it's playing in Grand Rapids, Michigan Uh between November 6th and November 9th, I believe Okay, I like the mosaic film experience. Oh, I like that name nice.

Yeah So you're actually you're getting it out there, which is great. Yeah Uh, how are you feeling right now? I know this is coming up tomorrow.

Is this the first time it's been shown first time it's being shown So how are you feeling right now? Pretty nervous That's awesome. Well, I've no doubt.

It's gonna be received well. Is there any uh any websites or social media? You want to plug while you're here?

Yeah, we have a Facebook page. Just look up saw Saw garbage film or just saw it'll show up Um, there's a website called sawgarbisfilm.com. It's OL not S-A-U-L.

Right. That's O-L Um, and then uh, there's also a Twitter page for both the movie and myself. Okay, perfect Lots of stuff to keep updated with the movie if you want it to absolutely and it's gonna share tomorrow.

Yep And what better place than at the Alamo? Oh And especially as a guy who goes to school and awesome you know about the Alamo draft house It's sort of surreal like the Alamo's my favorite theater. So specifically the Ritz in downtown Austin.

Oh yeah The original one. I just I love how The Alamo concept has kind of caught fire all over the country. You know, they've got them in a bunch of different states now and If you don't know about the Alamo, we could we could talk all day about the Alamo just itself and what it represents and they're opening At least two more in the DFW area over the next couple three years go do your research draft house.com Is there is there official website and what they stand for and the the cool things they do especially hosting festivals like this for For up and coming filmmakers who you know Maybe they can't get that shot that they need but they're gonna get the shot they deserve And have their films shown so best of luck to you tomorrow sir I hope it goes incredibly well.

I'm very very intrigued by this All right, thank you Don what are we going on Okay, but I do see that Keith's brought us somebody I don't know how much time it got because they've got to go in there and do their deal all the other way in okay cool enough All right, we are approaching our limit Uh, we're almost at the three-hour mark before you stream cuts us off So What we can do we'll talk we'll talk off here a little bit about that. Mm-hmm. I think I've got an alternate plan We might be able to use okay chat anything else you want to bring up I'm just excited to Steve Riveon's in the lead right now That's all I can think about a Steve Riveon being in a lead in the voting.

I'm ecstatic Rock and roll Hall of Fame. Okay, we were talking about how we see not in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame already I Want to hear everybody at the Alamo tonight Kelly everybody to Dallas video fest bar Yeah, we're just so accommodating and this is not the only show we're going to do from Dallas video fest We're going to be back on the air next week. Yes Yes And just as a reminder it is the Alamo tonight tomorrow Sunday Monday a University of Texas at Arlington beautiful facility down there Where Bart also happens to teach which is kind of convenient for him Tuesday and Wednesday at the South Dallas Cultural Center Thursday Friday Saturday Sunday of next weekend at the Angelica Film Center in Mockingbird station I did all of that with no notes sir Just so you know and in almost one breath a happy belated birthday to you Thank you my friend happy almost birthday to Don who's birthday is coming up on Monday Yeah, oh my birthday this year is a national holiday it is Columbus day Columbus day Hey, you know what and that's the important thing Because we're going to be eating here soon.

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