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If you are hearing this, that means a couple of things.
The following is Rob and I just kind of grabbed the steering wheel and pulled down on this thing.
Joining me for this particular...
Our couple of gentlemen, first and foremost, he is the official fact checker of this show.
And he is a man that probably learned a new word during the film we're about to review.
You may know him as fun, don't go, but his mom and even Dom Ford, I'm going to call him, Dom Ford, and welcome to the studio sir.
Thank you.
I've heard a couple words and learned some very interesting things about a very interesting person on this.
We're going to talk about that here in just a moment.
But I also wrote a short...
Should we take betting on some...
betting on some how fast we use some wheels on this thing that you're trying to...
I think we're going to be okay on this one.
All right, because we got some one special.
Also joining us for this particular...
Is a man who...
What else can you say about him?
He is royalty when it comes to pins and bowels.
He is the king of bowling, he is Andrew Beckham, welcome sir.
Oh, thank you.
Good beer.
Whatever we do one of these particular...
I don't think he's coming.
We're usually reviewing something.
And this is no exception.
Today we're reviewing...
A documentary which is also the directorial debut of Mike Myers.
Yes, that Mike Myers.
Not Michael Myers.
It's a fictional character.
It's something completely different.
What are how often he gets that?
Don't know.
The movie is called Supermensch, The Legend of Shep Gordon.
It is basically the story of a guy who has been the...
Manager for Alice Cooper for over 40 years.
And basically it's his story.
And so you think for yourself, huh, Rob?
That doesn't sound very interesting.
But here's the thing.
I've always said that I have lived a forest gump-like existence.
Right has happened to be in certain places and be able to witness certain things.
You know, when I was young, I got to be involved in the Orange Ball Parade.
I was part of a Super Bowl halftime show.
Oh, awesome.
Just kind of weird things happen to me.
Cool weird things, but still weird things.
I got nothing on this guy.
I can't think of anyone else who does.
Basically it's the story of this guy and who he is and what he's been through.
Shep Gordon, you know, kind of has something in common with Don.
One time wanted to be a parole officer.
Do you remember that part of the film?
But we both were parole officers.
Well, he was very short.
Yeah, let's do.
Found out that it wasn't going to work out for him.
So he was living in a hotel and in a Hollywood and heard a scream outside
and thought a woman was being assaulted.
And so he tried to go rescue her and she punched him in the face.
And the next the next morning, he saw this lady.
She's like, hey, did I punch you in the face last night?
He's like, yeah, he's like, sorry about that.
That woman was Janice.
Chop one.
And the guy she was with was to me.
And Jimmy Hendrix looked at him and said,
You're Jewish.
You should be a manager.
And then it gets weird.
I don't want to give too much of this movie away because I think half of the experience
of this film is seeing it for the first time and hearing the story for the first time.
I want to start with the film itself.
Andrew, I don't want you to rate the film.
But I want you, what was your level of enjoyment of the film?
Oh, my level of enjoyment.
Considering I went in, not even, I didn't even know who the guy was.
Just from what I heard of who he managed.
I had to give it a 10 out of 10.
Well, I don't want you.
I don't want you to rate it.
Oh, I enjoyed it.
Oh, I enjoyed it.
It was a story compelling.
I mean, were you drawn in?
Because the movie's not even an hour and a half.
It's an hour 25.
So did you feel that it, how was the story telling for you?
Oh, I really enjoyed it.
It drew me in from the very beginning.
And there is no short of just plot twist that I'm thinking,
Wow, what's next?
I want to know what's coming next.
All right, Don.
I was kind of like, well, what's the story?
Okay, so look at the trailer before and it kind of looked in.
Okay, so I go in and to say that was pleasantly surprised.
It's an understatement.
This guy was really interesting.
He, it's just how coincidence and how just the stars aligned for this guy
to change over and over and over.
Yeah, I mean, like you're seeing about Jan's job point,
but then he meets up with Al's Cooper and says,
Okay, we're going to make you your manager and for four years.
That story alone.
Yeah.
Which way would we go in a great detail.
But, you know, this guy in, I want to get a little head,
but at the end, it shows that this guy has been like an agent or
dealt with 60 celebrities.
Yeah, over his career and the guy is just so enjoyable to listen to
and hear his story and how all these icons from the entertainment world
of multiple entertainment.
Oh, yeah, multiple or like the people involved that interviewed for this film
is a huge people.
People like former Maverick's coach, Don Nelson,
who lives right up the street from a man in Maui,
a self-vester Stallone, Emerald Lagassi, Michael Douglas,
Mike Myers, Mike Myers himself was actually, but he's not in a very much,
which I kind of respected.
Yeah.
He directed it.
My concern was, and Murray's thing.
And Murray Tom already.
Yeah.
So he goes from chefs to singers to actors to entertainers.
I didn't know that he managed Teddy Pendergrass.
And well, it also huge Teddy Pendergrass fan.
Yeah.
And like, the way this guy tells stories, he's just kind of like,
yeah, this thing happened and you know, that I did this.
And it's just like, you know, the story about him cooking for the
Dalie Lama.
Yeah.
You just, you're like, I'm sorry, you didn't watch.
Yeah.
If force jump was true, this would be this story.
Well, for example, the hierarchy.
Well, yeah, but I'm saying how the force gumped it this and this,
and this and like, you know, the white ass this.
Well, it just, it's just this whole thing of,
I'm out of restaurant and can't at the can film festival.
And everybody applaud the chef.
And I start talking to the chef.
And then for two years, I just followed him around the world and learn how to be a chef.
Like, like, who can do that?
You know, all right.
I'm just going to spend a couple of years and learn how to cook.
Yeah.
I made a bajillion dollars.
I can do that.
Yeah.
You know, he did it sharing stone for two years.
Yeah.
That's the man.
At the peak.
We're talking 91 92.
It just this movie never ceased to melt my brain.
But in a good way.
Yeah.
I thought Mike Myers direction.
I thought the vision of the film is very low.
I love the little tidbits they added some great comedy to it.
To it to make you laugh a lot in this film.
But in very good way.
Another dimension is like the racial barriers.
He kind of broke down.
Oh, absolutely.
Totally.
I really don't want to go go deep into that because that's it.
Again, there's so much of this movie that I want people to experience for the first
time when they see it because I didn't know a lot about this guy going in.
I knew who he was.
I'd heard the name before.
But I didn't really know a lot about him.
And I spent an hour and a half of my life going.
No way.
No way.
No way.
No way.
I mean, it was, you know, and you hear Mike Myers tell the story about how he met him because
Alex Cooper was in the first Wayne's world and how that whole thing happened.
And how they wanted to use an older song.
And he was like, no.
It's just a song off the new album.
And it was just.
You talk about learning by doing like this guy had no schooling.
No training.
He just woke up one day and because Jimmy Hendrix told him to be a manager.
He became a manager.
And because he wanted to be a chef, he became a chef.
And because he wanted to follow the Dalai Lama, he met the Dalai Lama.
And the Dalai Lama stayed in the house.
Right.
Yeah, that happens all the time.
That story of him making him breakfast was genius.
And the fact that, you know, this guy at his house in Oya Maui on the beach.
He just has this open door policy.
Where if you know him, you just come over.
Yeah.
But there's one rule.
You don't do business during a dinner or anything like that.
Don't do it.
You're at his house unless you're there.
Unless you're at a business meeting.
Yeah.
There's no business, which I think is amazing.
And if you if you can't do a business, you're butts on the street.
And it's just one of those deals where this guy is one of the very few human beings that gets it.
Yeah.
I looked at this and I'm like, when I grow up, that's what I want to be.
Yeah.
You know, I want to be the guy that's got the house that, you know, is showing on the beach every morning watching the sunrise.
And, you know, have a little dinner.
And it just, this guy gets it.
Right.
How you can inspire others just by having just by being you.
And he has anything.
That's the perfect way to be.
He has a heart beyond belief.
But here's the thing.
He has respected.
And it shows so much that no matter who the top star is, the people behind the scenes sometimes.
They're really running the show.
You know, some actor can be here, you know, here today and gone later today.
The people with the power.
This guy really has power.
But the thing is he never screwed anybody over.
People respect him and they'll do anything for him.
And if you're a friend, he'll do anything for you.
Literally.
And it shows how many times people said, or ship ass.
So we don't even question it because he asked me to do this on right.
Yeah.
And that's the true nature of what karma is.
And, you know, whatever your religious beliefs are what not.
Karma is a real thing.
You may call it something different.
But it's a real thing.
If you do good things to people, good things will come back to you.
That's, that's for me.
That's been proven time and time and time again.
Now, something, it's not always immediate.
Karma is not always an immediate return.
But it does happen.
This guy is living breathing proof of it.
And I was taking a back just by story after story.
I could have listened to another three hours.
And I pray to the god of all things good and holy.
That when this thing comes out on DDD and blue right.
That there's a ton of extra footage.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
The challenge for Myers who, by the way, I thought did an amazing job.
Great job directing.
Not only directing, but directing a documentary.
Because documentary directing is a completely different ball game than doing anything else.
Because you're capturing real life.
Right.
As it happens, there's got to be, I mean, it had to torture him to try to edit this thing down.
But this guy can imagine what the original cut of this.
The thing that got me at the end.
How respected.
Oh, yeah.
You mentioned, you said that in a few moments ago.
And you're absolutely right.
No, I mean, everybody, you know, ask to do a favor of your friend for your friend.
They'll do anything for him.
But the level of respect.
Which absolutely huge thing that people had for him.
You know, and he always seemed like he just seems like the kind of guy that, you know,
you wouldn't have to go into a room and kiss the ring.
If somebody introduces you to him, you're in.
Yeah.
You know, and that's the way it should be.
And it just, it was, if they ever do a movie of his life.
If they, they'd have to do it fairly soon.
But Larry David could play it.
Yeah.
You know, I was incredibly impressed by this.
Again, I felt at an hour 25.
I could have gone another hour 25 easily.
Yeah, very much.
And if you read my review on the clubhouse podcast.com, where we have written reviews,
I put a little note in here, saying that a lot of people who like entertainment,
whether it be music, whatever movies you name it,
will probably not know this guy's name,
but they will be impacted by this guy's work.
And you don't know him.
You know somebody whose work he's worked with.
Yeah, he's in there.
Totally.
He managed being employed for nine days.
Yeah.
And it says that in the credits, things like nine days.
It's just the light-heartedness approach that,
that Myers took to this.
And he, I think he really showed.
Really how this guy is.
And I, you almost get the feeling that he doesn't want all this attention.
Yeah.
You almost, you get the feeling like he wasn't upset about it,
but you get the thing that Myers kind of had to talk him into this.
Like, look, dude, your story really needs to be out there.
I don't know.
Yeah.
I would love to hear a commentary track.
But there is one thing that he is missing his life,
which we won't get into.
But you could tell he's done everything under the sun.
But there's the one he doesn't at the same time.
Because there's, there's a subplot to that.
Yeah.
But there's one thing he wants.
She could tell.
Yeah.
But on a certain level, he has that thing.
Yeah.
So it's, I cannot say enough good things about this film.
Now, that being said, we don't give numbers to movies on this show.
We don't give you a thumbs up or thumbs down.
We don't give you stars.
Our empire is better than that.
We're going to be more specific in our reviews.
When we do a final analysis, it is a two-prong question.
Problem one asks, would you see this film again?
If the answer is no, then we're done here.
If the answer is yes, then it becomes,
how would you see this film again?
Would you pay full price?
Would you pay a twilight?
Would you pay a matinee?
Would you pay early morning?
Would you see it in second run?
Would you wait for it on Blu-ray or DVD?
Or would you wait for it on cable?
I'm not going to say broadcast television because I don't think
has ever seen broadcast television.
No.
Because of the nature of what it is.
Andrew, you are our guest.
I'm going to start with the question one.
Would you see this film again?
Yes.
You would.
Okay.
So we got a question too.
If you were to see this film again,
and just everything being even,
how would you see this film again?
Would you pay full price?
Yes.
I would pay full price.
So you would pay an evening show for this film?
Yes.
Okay.
Fair enough.
I just want to make sure we're clear on that.
Don't.
Would you see this film again?
Definitely.
I'm going to be kind of weird on this.
I'm going to say personally.
Twilight.
No.
Tell you why.
So five o'clock.
Yeah.
Five o'clock show.
I may even recommend it as a full price.
But the only.
I only had one cry.
It is greatest this thing is.
And we cut about it up.
It was just too short.
I wanted more and more and more.
And it was about 85 minutes.
And it's just like, I wanted this to be longer.
So that's only reason I'm going to say Twilight.
Okay.
I would definitely see this film again.
This is the kind of film I would own on Blue Ray.
I would see it again theatrically.
But I think I would own this on Blue Ray.
Because I just.
I think there's so much more to this story.
That Myers wanted to tell.
But I think he was like, I want to keep this fairly brief.
Yeah.
I don't.
I don't feel like I wasn't fulfilled.
But I was wanting more.
If there's a difference there, it's a weird fine line.
But I felt there were some parts that you could almost.
Feel that he cut out too soon.
He cut.
Yeah.
Like, like, you know when the DVD or the Blue Ray there are going to be.
At least 10 extra minutes for this.
And I want a commentary track.
I don't care who does it.
I don't care if it's.
I don't care if it's.
Mike Myers.
I don't care if it's.
I don't care if it's.
I don't care if it's.
I don't care if it's.
I don't care if it's.
I don't care if it's.
I don't care if it's.
All but integrating marketing, they are our bestest friends in the whole wide world
forgiving us the opportunity to screen this film.
And a lot of the films that you get to hear us talk about on these.
I don't exclude you that we do very very very regularly.
Like I always a periodically work cranking means bad boys out.
So thank you to those guys over there.
There they are so good to us.
To give us the opportunity to do these screening
so that we can tell you about these films.
And that way you know hey.
Do I need to pay for this, for now need to pay.
Do I not need to pay for this?
Pay for this.
Trust me.
You know what, bring your,
I can't say bring your family
because there's a couple of scenes
that might bring you a little, bring a date.
Yeah, but bring a date or the teenager.
Yeah, the teenager.
You know, go see this with your friends.
It's a good, a good heartfelt couple of hours
that you can spend.
Take a Saturday, go to dinner, hang out,
go see this movie, do yourself a solid.
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the clubhouse is closed and you know what?
I bet Brittany Palmer knows this guy.
Probably.
Yea.
The preceeding was a sooner, or later
production.
Guess I have to.