iTunes Exclusive Episode Jobs

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So as you established, unless you've fast forward through the beginning of this, it is,
and I, too, is exclusive.
And whatever we do, one of those, there's usually a specific reason for it.
Today's reasoning is about a movie.
As everyone of these we've done so far has been.
Wednesday night, am I correct on that?
Yes.
Wednesday night, everybody else, but me and the studio was able to attend a screening of a movie
that was released to the general public yesterday if I'm not mistaken.
Yes, it was.
It is the newest, Ashden Kutcher vehicle known as jobs.
So what we're going to be doing over the next few moments of your life is we're going to be discussing it.
We're going to, we're going to kind of break it down a little bit.
We're going to give you some information about the movie.
Both of these other gentlemen in this lady will be giving you their personal opinions on the film.
I am going to be more of the, I guess the Katie Quirk rolled here.
We're, I'm going to just kind of make sure this thing continues on like it's supposed to,
and giving you some insight there in.
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This film directed by Joshua Michael Stern,
who you would know him from Swing Vote.
He also directed the Wesley Snipes vehicle.
I know, maybe he didn't even, he wrote the Wesley Snipes vehicle, the contractor.
Also a film called Never Was.
He's currently been announced a director film called Closer to Fine,
and is in production for a movie called Carnival,
C-A-R-N-A-V-A-L.
What is that sound like something that the asylum would have done?
Maybe that's where they're headed after the covenant.
Hey.
So basically, unless you've been living in a cave,
you know that this film is about Steve Jobs.
Now, this is one of two different projects that is currently out there right now.
The other one I don't believe is going to production yet,
because we tried to use some research out there that I couldn't find it.
Ashton Kutcher plays Steve Jobs.
Dermit Mulrooney is in this Josh Gadou.
You might remember from 1600 Penn.
Lucas Hoss, Matthew Modi, J.K. Simmons, Leslie Ann Warren,
Ron Eldard, Kevin Dunn, probably not WWE's Kevin Dunn.
James Woods, just a few of the people that are in this film.
Those are the facts.
Now let's go to the opinions.
Dermit's going to start with you.
Because you called me after the screening.
I remember most of that conversation. I was a little sleepy.
Yeah, just because that's a couple of weeks I've been brutal,
but giving you your personal opinion on the film.
The film is very very highly recommended.
I thought it was a very good film.
Ashton Kutcher, ashton Kutcher, ashton Kutcher, ashton Kutcher.
Ashton Kutcher, ashton Kutcher.
The guy I thought did an A-plus incredible job.
He played Steve Jobs, I think, to the T.
and I know some people are already saying this and I agree with this too and I know it's early
but I think honestly he deserves an Oscar nomination for this role. He did that get a job.
Now of course we haven't seen everything else but so far he's in that caliber level that kind of performance where he might get a nod.
Okay. I like how it showed Steve Jobs from the beginning to the success.
It showed Steve not on this great guy that everybody knows him. This guy in his ways was sometimes a real jerk.
He was a real jerk in some aspects of life.
And this focus is on him founding apple and it really covers the years 1971 to 2000.
Yeah, the last the the father say went in his life really was the beginning scene. What he opens. This is the iPod.
We are coming out with the iPod.
It's everything before that basically.
And it was it was made with no involvement from apple whatsoever.
That's if I don't know.
No, that's that's fact. That is a fact.
Yeah. Yeah.
But it showed that this guy put everything into this business.
It was his life.
But this guy was tough and he wanted the best product out there. He was innovative.
But the guy was also a jerk too. But he is also a great guy too.
It was not a glory film as what it was. It showed Steve Jobs at who I think he was.
And Ash did such an incredible job portraying him.
I thought.
All right.
Jules, let's go to you.
You were there as well. What did you think of the film?
Okay. I didn't.
It was okay.
But I don't think it was the best of movies.
I mean, yes, it's a biopic.
You know, you get what you pay for.
But the thing is, are honestly don't think it's an Oscar performance.
Okay. Fair enough.
Did you enjoy the film?
I enjoyed the movie.
Yeah.
But it's not something I would go out to pay for.
Okay.
Okay.
Chad, we go to you.
Well,
I have come to bury this movie, not to praise it.
I'm afraid.
But it's your opinion.
Yeah, entitled to that, sir.
To me, this movie felt like an ABC movie of the week.
It really.
It was nothing about this thing.
Screened.
The theatrical release quality.
It really didn't.
It felt like it was rushed.
Yeah.
To me.
And I don't want to be to actually cut your up here because I know it's not entirely his fault.
I'm sure.
Because I really don't think the director of this film was capable of carrying off the subject matter this heavy.
Because there's no denying Steve Jobs is an icon.
Okay.
I really can't say it was because he will always be an icon because of the things he did.
But it was so hard for me.
And I mentioned this in the theater before we walked out that
So much of this film took place in the mid to late 70s.
That it was really hard to look at this look at.
Cut, cut.
Now I'm freaking falling over.
That's in culture.
Looking at culture on screen and not seeing him as Kelso from that 70 show.
Just because that that.
Just because that show took place in that era.
And that was our first big exposure to that.
But that just hurt your perception or that hurt your view of the film.
Because that's two different things.
I don't know exactly how I would quantify it.
I just.
I couldn't remove myself.
From constantly looking to the right of the screen.
Whatever he would be talking and waiting to see Millicunus walk into the sea.
And again, there's something that may not necessarily be his fault.
Maybe it was one of those things where he's going to be tight cast.
Whenever he plays a role that takes place in that period.
It's just hard to see anything, but.
To me, how about as the film went on and we changed the era?
I want to say around the time that the.
That the Mac was coming out in in the mid 80s and 85.
He kind of started to.
Metamorphosis, you know, into into Steve Jobs.
The way he would deliver dialogue.
Steve Jobs had a very.
A particular gate to his walk that that he had down.
I mean, it was it was incredibly noticeable in the opening scene.
Like Don said where he introduced the iPod.
This is when he's doesn't have a lot of hair.
He's always wearing the black turtlenecks and stonewash gains.
He pulls the thing, you know, pulls the iPod out of his pocket.
And he really was Steve Jobs in that scene.
So from the 70s on up, it was just.
I don't know if it was just so much that he looked like Kelso and active like Kelso.
So first and foremost, this guy was a church.
And it was well documented.
And it was really hard to root for somebody that.
Yes, he was a genius, but he was excellent.
And it was, you know, if you're not.
This is a quote from the film.
If you're not with me, you're against me attitude.
Uh-huh.
Uh, get behind me, get out of my way because I'm leading the charge.
And he couldn't be talked to.
It's almost like he couldn't be reasoned with right now.
Exactly.
The one scene that we don't know if it's true, but that one scene where the guy said,
We can do this.
We, it's not possible.
We're working.
And what does he tell the guy?
Get out.
Get out.
Yeah.
You're fired.
If you're not as passionate about this as the rest of his are, you don't belong here.
He fired the guy on the spot.
You know, and just, you know, when you try to fit 10 pounds of product and a five pound
bag, some things just cannot be accomplished.
And it also showed him that one scene that really stuck out.
And I don't want to be in spoiler on here or anything.
But when they're going public.
And he's deciding how much people are going to be getting.
And he's looking at these apple founders.
He's people that started the company with them saying, basically, you're going to be,
No, they don't deserve a cut because they're not doing much for apple nowadays.
Yeah.
Even though they were the founders, they were, you know, these guys were working with
him side by side in the garage.
Getting his company going and working company a whole life into this.
Well, they haven't done much lately.
So they don't deserve the big cut when we go public.
Yeah.
Any low level tech could do what they did.
They don't deserve a percentage of the stock.
Okay.
And of course, stock went through the roof when it went public the next day.
But I do see this role for Ashton as a breakout role.
He might be able to show that he could do these serious roles now.
He's not pumped.
He's not that 70 show.
Now, Chad, I want to ask you a opinion on that.
Did you see him?
Good.
He pulled off more drama than he did in this film.
In the hands of a more capable director, I think he probably could.
Yeah.
Great.
I think it was the director that made Ashton culture the way he is.
I think he held him back.
It did.
It did.
It held back.
Did you notice any cameos in this film?
I know that Steve Tramell was was in one scene.
I can't remember if it was.
Not the one I'm looking for.
I want to say it was whenever they showed the debut of the 1984 commercial.
Do you remember a scene where there was Arthur Rock, John Scully,
and Mike Mara, Cooler doing Steve Jobs unveiling of that at the table?
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On the left's, on the right side of the table, was someone you probably know.
The main very well, apparently.
Mr. No one pushed now.
That's who it was.
Not Steve Tramell.
No one pushed now.
The founder of the co-founder of Atari.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay, so we've dealt with the acting.
let's now talk about the story itself was that was the script well written do you feel
that it was written true to form um flattery or not we've already determined is is not even a
concept but from a storytelling standpoint in jewels will start with you did you feel the story
was told well i think there was a lot missed out for the story okay like what um the fact that
in 1987 that did not mention anything about Pixar um yeah but really when he
Pixar didn't happen I mean that would have been very detail I wanted that thing wouldn't
no but he was a he was a CEO of yeah by by the time he came back to Apple which they did address
okay he was already a major player in the Pixar universe so to speak
it's open road films I wonder maybe if Disney wouldn't let him use the name possibly but you
know that's such a major part of what he did that it's kind of you know if you can't mention
that maybe you need to find a different subject matter to make a film about yeah that's true
alright Chad we go to you well and kind of going back to acting Mr. Gad blew me away
Josh yeah I'm from 1600 pen hate to me he provided so much emotional
wait to this film and I'm not saying it's because he's a big guy but godfather of Bryce Dallas Howard
son really well yeah I mean so much of it was was on his shoulders as the geeky tech guy
that just wanted to fit in with the cool kids but I'll also upcoming be the voice of Olaf in
the Disney film Frozen yeah that that trailer that we saw he was also in the emcherned ship
what else did you know would you know him from the video game met in black alien crisis he was part
of that he was recently on an episode of Hollywood game night okay but he he's ever told
episodes of Californiacation he he was pretty much the emotional nuts and bolts of this thing because
you very rarely saw Steve Jobs she displayed any emotion so he was so detached from everything
because he was just so wrapped up in his own. No I have to disagree because they showed him going nuts
many of times in that film you know when he's on the phone with Bill Gates he was going nuts
that he was emotional then he I thought that's why like push you it's so much in this movie
and now I think he did such incredible job is it showed him getting very emotional almost ready to
pull his hair out you know so he did show him emotional but to both those actors I think they did
a great job and it shows that you know that when a guy's going I'm quitting because it's not fun anymore
you don't even talk to me anymore I'm heading out we have died is we're not what we used to be
well Ashton's emotional range went from arrogance to anger that was pretty much the that was the
man the extent of his spectrum but as that was what was asked of him in that role well consent I mean
we saw him get upset whenever he heard when he found out that the girl that he was seeing at the
time was pregnant and he was in such denial that it was his kid because he was an adopted child and
he was he felt discarded as a kid and he just drifted feeling unwanted by his birth parents
and so I guess he felt like he was doomed to make the same mistake he didn't want this kid to grow
up in a family that was broken from the start so he just pushed it out of his head and to me that
was about one of the biggest crimes that this film committed was that they make a big deal about
the fact that he doesn't want anything to do with this kid once it's born and her name was Lisa
which was the name of one of his big failed projects and the apple I remember that and I mean they
it turned into this bloated machine that was going to cost $10,000 that nobody wanted to buy
and then he parlayed all that experience and do working on the Mac. Masioca was in this but yes very
very briefly hero was in this he was working at Atari. James Woods too you know they only had about
he's in there probably 30 seconds but to just gloss over once he's been away from apple and so
much as told encapsulated in like news clips of all the CEOs that start going through the revolving
door and we're got exactly and then next thing you know Steve Jobs is at a new house with a
with a wife with a couple of kids pulling carrots out in his garden in his backyard and his wife
says see if Lisa wants to eat breakfast that's what got me and I'm like where did she come in the picture
yeah my so there was a little disjointedness to it yeah yeah yeah he got a letter from her written
and crayon when she was a you know it looks like maybe it was five to eight year old you know he
just kind of wads it up in cries and he's got some strange woman in bed with him that I don't think
we saw before or after that scene yeah and then he does a departure from apple and the next thing
you know his teenage daughter is now sleeping on the couch in his house with his new family how
that happened my question yes I question does it show the life the problem is you could do
an eight hour film on Steve Jobs and still not catch everything but the other project that's
in development too is only going to be three scenes that Aaron Sorke is writing what what apparently
wasnac is a consultant on okay wasnac is kind of saying this this was entertaining but I wouldn't
recommend it I showed the 70s very much in his life in that part of the thing but you know there's
so much in his life that they could not really get into because they could make it an eight hour film
if they did the full thing of Steve Jobs literally it didn't show any real success of Apple
after Steve Jobs and introducing the iPod they could spend ten minutes of the iPod the iPhone
you know everything else iTunes everything that wasn't even touched you know what I think would
have helped out quite a bit the in-credit sequence when they were showing like a group of the
actor and then a shot of the person they portrayed kind of I did inargo yes exactly give us a
but they didn't have like any blurb of what they did since since this yeah you know they want
to do this sphere had this part nothing it was just a shot of them as the actor and a shot of
them as the character or the real person but no doubting into what they did okay well let's move on
to the next issue of visually visually did this capture the era did you believe you were watching
the time frame that it was in was it presented well because that's a that's different from story tell
yeah I'll give this show let's start with shadow let's go for it atmosphericly it did feel very
70s ish when they were when they were in the 70s but there was no real flare to it I mean it was
tastefully shot it's about all I can say for you know it's it's it's no you know it's no sweeping epic
done one thing I noticed was when they went to this parking garage and when they were in the 70s
I looked at the cars that they made sure that was correct I saw nothing from the 80s in that parking
garage so I think they made a attempt to try to really you know try to be historically correct they
had no new houses the appliances and the houses there's nothing that was newer innovative so I think
they they took great care to make sure that they when they were in the 70s the only saw cars from the
70s you know they walked in the house they only had stuff there that was you wouldn't see it you
know in the 1990s in there okay I'll leave it to that just yeah great I mean I had everything
down from the 70s the telephones with the weird address the hairstyles everything like that
did feel like it was from the 70s so I cannot fall that so I make yeah I'm finding that part
was really it was really done that part all right so we've basically covered the bases um
musically uh don we're back to you um nothing really right home on a soundtrack really honestly
I mean I look at the soundtrack oh no no no no no no no no I did like how they did play
a lot of the 70s music and stuff like that like life's been good and they did kind of I
did like some of the songs that they put in there because you recognize the songs and took you back
to that time in my mind I thought okay Jules well did play the eagles well it played
Joe what Joe was in the eagles as well as we've already before he joined the eagles he is
his part of the eagles maybe the back then he joined like he wasn't part of the eagles back then
but the play Joel was song which I quite liked so I enjoyed the music that's the one that
jumped out of me the most I kept I just started nudging jules whenever the the drum intro
kicked in is whenever they were building the boards for the first apple in their garage and they
had just kind of sealed the deal so they were going to start getting a pretty big chunk of a change
for it they also did go with both the changes are you a speedwagon has to the rising sun yeah
I thought there was a put in there getting a good part you know roll off the changes when the
company is evolving I think that that was smart to do that yeah point all right so let's get to the
final verdict done we're going to start with you final verdict and I want you to rate this on the basis
of would you see it again and if you would see it again I want you to rate it on at the basis of
I would pay for an evening showing I would pay for a matinee showing I would pay for it in second
run I would rent it or I would wait for it on cable I would see it again and I would say matinee
I think the director made some mistakes in there but Ash and Kusher made up for it
I think it did incredible job I recommend the film I really do jules I think I would rent it
I wouldn't go and spend my money at the theater okay so just so that we're clear would you say
that if you watched you would watch it again but you would rent it instead of waiting for it on
like HBO yeah all right chat I'd wait for it till it hit stars or HBO but you would watch it again
if you have the opportunity if nothing else is on okay but and that's good that we have a varying
a varying opinion on this you know if we all agreed all of a time then they're pretty much wouldn't be a
reason for this show let's be honest you would have any critics I mean and I had no vendetta against
Kusher or this movie I went into this film expecting to really really thinking I was really going to
dig it you're just because of the subject matter but one thing I do want to do real quick is thank
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