The Decconstruction Of AEW Full Gear 2024

Welcome to the first one of these we've done in a long time and we're doing things a little bit differently. Welcome to the deconstruction of AEW full gear 2024 as part of the clubhouse podcast empire as part of the Patreon here on Sunset Lounge DFW. We're putting this one on the main feed but going forward if you want these it'll be the next here and above I do believe I will check on that.

The father of tears you get all the benefits plus a little bit more what we're going to be doing is we're going to be watching full gear probably on about a four minute delay right now but that's okay because this is live to tape anyway. But what we're going to do is we're going to get you lined up with the pay-per-view and then we're going to walk you through the whole thing so queue up to pay-per-view mute your TV turn this up and we will get you there now I am not by myself to my right is my co-host and a man who is incredibly comfortable right now he is Alex. And I am going to get more comfortable as this goes on because I'm going to kick my feet up I'm going to enjoy some time we got some good people in a good room to watch AEW full gear now to clarify our wrestling deconstructions assuming there will be no changes all you have to be is an empire lieutenant that'll make a lot more sense when you start looking at our tiered subscriptions.

Lieutenant or higher yes sir not for higher it's different well that will negotiate that separately and probably in untrasable ways to my left in my living room is the official fact checker of sooner or Gator productions and a man who is always all in you may know him is it Boonu but his mom and even Don Ford I'm going to call him Don Ford hey man glad to be here I have you here we also want to I know it's been a minute and to his left we have a very special guest and a man who it's the first time he's been here since the last time he was here he is Ricardo welcome sir what's up guys glad to be back I love you guys love wrestling let's do this now you may hear very slightly in the background we have the audio turned down normally Alex would have the pay-per-view in his ear so he could tell us what's going on the logistics of that would be a nightmare with this thing we're going to figure that out as they go along but right now we are clicking play on AEW full gear twenty twenty four we will watch from the beginning all right so we're going to be black from zero hour now currently a black screen once the action starts we will not tell you where we are because you should be caught up to us at that point we are currently waiting for the disclaimer to come up which AEW always does as any pay-per-view really does anything as we're waiting up now now we have the warning the anti-piracy warning and once we get up and running we're not going to do full blown predictions for this pay-per-view but I am going to ask around the room of any cool stuff we expect to see tonight because as we know AEW does tend to do long pay-per-views but now that they're doing them monthly up black screen now where I'm wondering how much longer there's the AEW gear full gear logo full gear logo now we are live in the arena make sure you're synced up with us there's the pyro looks like our first match of the night will be the four-way dance to take on private party I love that they have gotten so far up the card now that everybody else enters during zero hour no no private party gets the full regalia and only on pay-per-view we are live from Newark New Jersey and we're starting with the world tag team championships on the line I'm not going to yell I'm tired we've got the bottle girls going up the aisle private party getting the young bucks little central entrance even though we don't have the tunnels on this one like we normally have because AEW does tend to use a bit of a different stage setup for their pay-per-views I am happy to see the tunnels gone I I said it for multiple shows now the tunnels are outdated they're poorly shot if AEW wants to start making some serious headway and be taken seriously as a competitor they need to up their production value and you know what you would mention this earlier during zero hour but the stream has been holding well which as we know over the last couple weeks hasn't been a common theme so hopefully we get a nice clean picture and we don't miss action because of bad cuts we are watching currently through Triller TV let's be clear on that because if there's any problems with pay-per-view dot com or whatever we can't speak to that we are watching this through Triller TV now as far as what's going to happen after the first of the year we know that January 1 all of the AEW programming including live will stream through max now what that means is if you don't have a TV provider you will be able to watch your AEW programming live streaming through max I personally use YouTube TV but we still do not know how shows like this are going to work they still have not said will they still be pay-per-views will they be using the WWE plea model or we just don't know I'm assuming we're going to know sometime in the next six weeks why really I'm curious about is what we don't know why it hasn't been announced whether or not there's a pre-existing deal with Triller whether there's still a deal with ppv.com or if there's something that they are having to figure out in that scope and that's why they haven't been able to say anything whether or not they're still trying to work out like oh no Triller ppv.com you still get the international feed but most of it's going to be on max anyway so I think it's going to be kind of like ESPN plus and UFC where oh don't don't tempt me with that you have ESPN plus you have all these sorts of things but certain things you still have to pay the 40 bucks 50 bucks whatever it is so go ahead I get that and that would make sense to me but you know at 50 bucks a pop but it also could be AEW looking at the buy rates before we get there and going is this is charging 50 bucks for a pay-per-view on max worth it or do we just roll this up in well one of the rumors that has been discussed is the fact that max paid them more on this contract to have pay-per-views included now what the real aspect there is we don't know if it's going to be more WWE model TNA model or an entirely different or we'll call it the UFC model now one of the things that I would like to point out if it is the UFC model which is the most likely that Ricardo was talking about you're not getting paying for every pay-per-view because they have expanded out then more monthly or closer to monthly what you're probably going to have if it is that UFC model is you're going to have the big shows that you will have to pay for but then something like World's End would be included see to be that's more the TNA plus model that is the TNA plus model right you're right because UFC uses it right you have what UFC tends to do is they still do this yeah but originally you would if you bought a pay-per-view UFC on ESPN plus you would get ESPN plus free for a year but you still had to pay per pay-per-view for UFC somebody like me who doesn't pay for HBO max because I get it free with my AT&T subscription that's where it's going to be interesting as well but we're also we also have a match that's gone well underway at this point this is a four corners match for the AEW tag titles gentlemen any thoughts as to who walks out with this I'm going to be daring and say outline outlanders outrunners outlanders would be more of a Scottish thing no and it's only outlander yeah I just think that why not just shake it up that's my thing I I like where your heads out on that one done yeah but this I feel like is one thousand percent your kickoff match because there's a lot of talented people involved a lot of people can get their stuff in but private party literally just had this big overcoming of the big villains to get the tag titles if these belts move I will be shocked but I feel like it would be the instigation of what might become the AEW hot potato era and for those of us old enough to remember there was a time during the attitude era you had to turn into raw because the world title was moving every time so I'm wondering if if the belts move now I'm wondering if that's going to become a more common thread going forward but I don't see anybody but private party going out on this what about you Ricardo now I need you to also clarify if your shirt has any bias in your answer no I just want to show you this is my shirt says scissors me daddy nothing it's hilarious I think during this match the thing we're going to break up the fans want the outlanders outrunners outrunners I blame Don it's my fault to uh they're the fan favorites to win this the smart thing is to keep the titles on private party but we have to remember this is Tony Khan booking that's hunter let's not blow it too far out of proportion there there is the Tony Khan that the internet loves to make fun of and then there's the Tony Khan who has shown that he is a fan and likes to take care of his guys so I see private party winning it but I know the fans want the outrunners to win it I I don't see these belts moving either it's too soon especially given the lead up to them beating the young box the outrunners are a very interesting case study because this is not a team that should be as successful as they are this is a team that is incredibly talented but this gimmick was made to not win but it's so over when you had people with the old Sega outrunner video game logo right camera dead center right on the rim which by the way for your reference sir they have already put away which you are on board with because it is well documented that you don't like people holding up signs during matches which we haven't seen a lot so far including what we've watched in zero hour and to clarify I practice what I preach I was threatened to get thrown out of the metal lands at a giants game because I took somebody sign and tore it up during the game and I told security bring the cops never got moved but in that same scope information yes oh no no no they moved people down in front of us who insisted on holding up signs I don't care if it's your birthday I don't care if you're turning 18 I'm tearing it up anyways but so what do you mean for me if I can the WWE you said they'll tell you when to pull them up so what they have started doing as you'll see like on Smackdown they'll have the sign of the night so what they'll do is they'll cue the crowd to hold up their signs at particular times yeah to try and limit the obstructions and up until until recently they would actually do that in a specific commercial break yeah but what they found is by doing this you don't get I mean it's WWE will always have that level of interference true but it has lessened and I would agree with you because of we're actually going to give you camera time yeah we're going to give you your five minutes not 15 but five so yeah people are always going to look at now yeah before we get too far away from this yeah I like I said I like what you're thinking as far as the outrunners on this one gone but allow me to say what I think really happens for the outrunners I think they're the team when it comes time for Dustin and Sammy to lose the tag titles that it's to the outrunners and they become our awaits yeah I can see that okay and then keep them separate thank you yeah yes all right we also have two all elite crates to go through because we haven't done this in a while now yeah you're gonna you're gonna clarify right for always that was about to step on yeah I'm sorry Don actually subscribe to the all elite crate from our friends at pro wrestling tees.com it is a quarterly crate versus the monthly crate that pro wrestling tees does that we did for a while but this was when we all got together on a weekly basis so but because we don't have a studio to go to so we do home shows every week we haven't all been in the same room during a pay-per-view in many many many many moves Alex and I have been together for some at ace at a local eatery which no free ads which we may or may not be hoping to bring to the masses Don and I have been at certain things together but the three of us have not always been around in the same place at the same time so it was January the rubble yeah it was the last one and then we did the last one at the dip yeah so the all elite crate the way this is going to work for those you joining us for the first time I have the crate in my possession currently one of the two because we're gonna have four hours to kill I will look at the items in the crate one at a time we're not gonna do them all at one time we're gonna go what at a time Don because he pays for the crate gets first right to refusal however he has said that during the time where Alex was buying crates and Don was buying crates they would defer to each other for first right refusal now that being said Don do you still want to hold that position or would you like first right to refusal I would do actually I'm gonna be daring tonight if it's okay it's it's your deep let's him first then me all right so Ricardo yeah we'll get first rights to refusal now this is going to be a little more difficult plan you said that Don I was actually going to suggest it yeah because I'm so honored normally Alex is far enough away from me that nobody can see it I see it first and I do the reveal he's actually sitting directly to my right in my living on the on the not on the actual if we can if something sting problem of sting yeah but I think I think we just do a communal effort on that one if there's something that we are as a collective feel like that should go to a certain person even if it's somebody who's not here right yeah we have the group vote three votes moves it deal there are two t-shirts in this crate as they always are yeah the very and by the these are all the double x's all the shirts are double x's the first shirt tonight is someone I don't think is on the guard but he might be because he is a current title holder and the hundreds of titles and the title he currently holds begins its annual tournament this Wednesday because it is for the continental classic and this t-shirt which might I say is a little snazzy is for one kazoochka okada Alex you may now look oh yeah that's definitely a rainmaker shirt Ricardo you have first rights to refusal refuse don't I'll pass Alex I know I don't like shirts when they're when their names are I was gonna say I am an okada fan but this is snazzy but it's a real picture it is verb it's not too many words because most of them are in katakana but I will pass because it's a real picture of the person so what I'm going to do is I'm actually going to add this to the swag box because it is a great shirt yeah oh I have no but it is not one that I feel like I would put in rotation that's a fair space so when we do start doing our live shows again this will go in the swag box so if you hear us talking about a live show make sure you show up because it'll be available we'll do the next one after this match that is still going on oh go so we are verifying okada does not have a match tonight I didn't think he was on the card I don't think anyone from the elite is other than Jack Perry yeah because as we know young bucks still written out till after the year until they're done with holidays signing the crowd max caster idolizes Shelton Benjamin mm-hmm okay very poorly written you should be no what we're seeing right now is max caster show boating a little bit is this with boons kind of like hey man what are you doing I believe caster gets a little too big for his riches goes to join the hurt syndicate they make him believe he's part of it and then turn on it okay how how villainous do we want the hurt syndicate to be because there is a there's a there's a very interesting in up we're going for the new day aspect no I was a new way job boss oh well the first time I was seeing it was and private party braces it first time I remember seeing it was new day yeah I'm not denying it I'm just saying the first time I saw it well I do know what don's referencing at the same time especially given that anyways what I was getting at was if we want hurt syndicate to be truly villainous do we get them an initiation of max where they make him dress up as I don't know Bobby Lashley sister oh no no no no no no no there's a layer there's a layer yeah I remember that I remember that said for those unaware there was a time in WWE where he did max caster max caster played Bobby Lashley's sister this is a true story it is verifiable you can fight that on the internet and in case you're wondering yes he had the full mustache yes so I was wondering if that the hurt syndicate was going to be brought up in that conversational piece but I don't I don't know that you want to go back to that well as max like if you're going to break up the acclaimed which I still don't want them to because I here's here's my problem max is not good enough to stand on his own but he's okay on the mic I don't think he's good with the wrapping but he can speak he can enunciate and go through all of that video and private party retains hashtag and still yes hashtag and still oh I think oh no I thought I saw our friend max caster eats the pen after a gin and juice one two three private party retains but again not shocked because they just got those yelts and exactly because you want to make a transitional well but not only that you just had the whole thing of if we lose this match we have to break up so you really have to start rebuilding private party as a team what this does for the acclaimed will be interesting to see I don't know that we'll see anything tonight but it is going to make a very interesting story for dynamite on Wednesday it's very new dish I really don't like what they're doing with the new day right now anyway I just don't break them up please don't I'm not going to lie I had I had a moment I thought Zayn just kidnapped a child oh it's biggie is he still out he's still out okay yeah there have been reports that he might be getting cleared soon or even has already been cleared but is training we do not have concrete on anything yet okay I saw the box getting messed with so I'm going to leave as we're waiting for the next match to begin let us go to another item from the crate it is the other t-shirts if this makes it to Alex I am going to say that there is a very slim chance he passes on it that makes me feel like it's not getting to me because it has one word okay that's an acceptable number of words this word for those of you playing the home game and decide to do charades it has one syllable can I guess no okay it is four letters okay and it is simply duck bruv oh no Alex is a big Will Osprey fan but I know I'm I'm but but but Ricardo does get first right to refusal and I will clarify this Ricardo this I believe is your first time going through this nobody takes issue except Don if you cut him off from something dude if you want to go for it I know but the thing is it's a it wouldn't it's too big for me I want a bruv shirt you know how you know how washing machines work sorry it still would be shaking I'm gonna pass on it I'm done I'm taking it done I knew I I knew the moment you said if it gets to Alex yeah Don was going to take it regardless of what I love Osprey yeah oh he you're going to take it no matter what if you knew I want no I'm messing with you know that's a really good subtle shirt I like it the thing is like it I'm sorry he is a bruv I got work yeah every when I type text people I go he broke that's where if when I broke it's still funny never not the best okay so we're right now we're going to do MJF versus Roderick Strong now as we lead up to this Adam Cole and Roderick Strong both wanted to take on MJF at this particular show MJF put in the stipulation that they had to win three matches in a row so Cole lost his third match Roderick Strong won his now they both had one all three it would have been a triple threat now let's also clarify there was shenanigans to Cole's loss in the form of the dynamite diamond ring which was given to cash to buy MJF fired on callus which I would have booked it differently have they both they both won all three because I wouldn't have made it a triple threat I would have made it a handicap match oh I like that interesting idea because they both want a piece of him but if you make it a triple threat then they have to fight each other but you know how you tell that with the handicap match if I make I hope I'm not cutting you off at all I'm sorry I said it caught okay I wanted to pause not only do you make it a handicap match but if somebody pins MJF they get dot dot dot and that way you could put some tension in between Cole and Strong what you could do to tie into the story they get some kind of an advantage in the next the one on one man or okay in the next AEW diamond ring battle royale they get to be the Joker there yeah so why do you think they cold was it injury do you think they did no no no I think we need to take a minute on this road oh my god it is they aren't Jersey he is an all black and gold on the back the better than you be is the Bruins logo MJF is just better and it's not a catchphrase now and the trunks a golden white versus the golden black of the robe yeah well in the other part is is all of it and a banner dropping the Burberry this has thanked me later I just want to know how much one of those banners cost I don't want to buy it I'm not going to buy Tony come drops one about once a quarter well and we know that they're not like CGI'd in yeah they are legit banners and I don't know if they're reusable like they got the bottom of the bottom they got a problem holds in them so I wonder if they'll maybe they hang those out like the nightmare factory or something well if you want they can do is just actually they probably put it at creative they could they could paint over too that's why I said are they reusable yeah probably because I wonder if there's also like a thing where you can like flash clean them maybe but because they're essentially strong also in black and gold see but here's how you tell that other story if Roderick turns on cold because if we're being totally honest with the way that household is being booked that's not Roderick's strong that is Mr. Shafir who's doing the best work of her career career she's not talking no she does every once in a while but she's the whole vibe with her is different right now well they were just like you're going to be a menacing killer you don't say anything you just hurt people and when you do speak Russian that is also there let's see Roderick strong does anybody think Roddy wins this no I think he does with shenanigans from cold yeah yeah I'd love mgf you know that he's not here all right I I think Roddy and because a loss for mjf doesn't mean anything yeah I think cold trust to interfere essentially it's Roderick and mjf picks up the win I see I was thinking it was more of a he inadvertently distracts Roddy and mjf gets the win um mjf ducks out quickly takes the powder yeah now let's also let's also clarify there's technically nothing I'm trying to get it done first up here we go okay so he's now got this stick but we we can't talk too much because we don't need the audio to bleed through especially with the words he's probably going to say oh my god the better than you it's all ruined as long as on his elbow bad oh yeah well you know in plus he's got to run down New Jersey because it's New Jersey long Island right but don't I I can't have the audio bleed through to this because we don't have to get flagged okay that's the whole reason we turned it down normally he just has it in his ear like we used to do yeah I'm still trying to work out the logistics of that so uh got a uh he's just reiterating the yeah I don't like that familial violence which we're not fans don't like that at all but what I wanted to focus on was the positive yes there's technically nothing on the line in this match beyond vitriol but if you have Roddy strong and mjf in a match those are arguably two of your best technical wrestlers in the company not going to debate it and possibly in this chemistry so I mean there's a reason that both men in this match have been world champions yep and you and I have talked at length before about when Roddy strong was ROH champion was the best work of Roddy strong's career and it isn't close and yes I'm even including the undisputed era or any version of it that he was part of because he was never the guy whereas when he was ROH champion he kind of was mjf before mjf I just don't think he went to that extreme like mjf does in his yield him which still makes me laugh because we know better I just I just want Roddy to stop at the yelling thing I don't mind the yelling thing I just think he over does it the only thing I like about it is watching Taven and Bennett react when he does it that's what I'm getting at yes because the only people who are entertained by the yelling thoroughly are those that are like give me the microwave there's a tiktok generation mind there's no depth to it it's just funny because it's like out of it's unexpected so in this yeah we definitely have to talk over certain words being said by mjf because it's a paper view and so that the rules are a little looser and if he was auto corrected it definitely would have been ducking yep does it also look like mjf put more tenor from the neck up than he did the from that down I honestly think this was him going I'm cold I'm not taking off my shirt but I'll get in the tanning bed yeah just add the spray later but then again you are all we're also comparing it to Roddy who looks like he's like I know how spray tans work you pour it in a bath tub and I dive in that's basically it he actually do hair thing a hair surgery mjf no I think he just hasn't had a haircut in a while no for those that talk or whatever he implanted hair whatever they're giving them ribs to mjf that's just that's that's an angle for sure that that was something else leading to a different area area that they realized was going to be very juice Robinson asked so we decided to skip that all right let's go back to the crate while we're kind of in a low in this match and rest hold at this point after we do the t-shirts Don has the decision of what we go to next because every crate has an autograph and a micro brawler and a pin and up to four items that are just miscellaneous so Don what would you like to go to let's do the micro brawler the micro brawler is actually a really well done one in this crate Alex has had to go to the kitchen real quick so we're going to give him a minute to get here and I'll close the what I was going to add but I didn't want to yell from the other room real quick and um there it don't don't start that you're better than that um but one of the things that they have consistently been really really really good at has been the micro brawlers like we will get go through crates and we're like that's a really good shirt that one not so much I don't know that we have had a micro brawler where we've been that's crap this one is somebody who is actively preparing their return in some very interesting vignettes yeah they are a newly wed I know it is and in that in their current gimmick gear it is julia heart as the princess of the black throne or card do I see it you man we're going to get the full examination before there's a distinction I'm going to have to call a guy in for this yeah that's a great pulsar that that's that's a highlight you know I'm sure I'll take the micro brawlers if you don't like oh nice catch yeah oh yeah no this is really well done with the hat going through the whole ordeal has the contact separation I like because he when she first started wearing the hat it's nearly well I thought they were putting Ellie D's in it oh you did the light on it yeah but denim when I found out that there's just like it's like like plexiglass but the light hits it then I'm like okay I'm better with it now so do you know the other thing I really dig with the brawlers that they do now is when we used to get them they were just in a bag yep people wanted to protect them so they started putting them in plastic like you would get action figures different things like that like the old star wars right but instead of having it so that it tears the way they do the plastic actually will unfold in certain areas okay Ricardo in case you were wondering like right at the top you can just slide that over slide the the paper out wow if case you wanted the doll separate but to preserve the doll excuse me the figure I don't know about action it doesn't actually do anything but you can slide it right back in and put the plastic right back for your traditional preservation cool I just thought that that like it's little things like that now you rob and I have long discussed about how one of our fascinations as Disney adults go pound sand if you have issues as Disney adults is them figuring out things that you don't even consider cracking the code which at times pro wrestling tees by extension AEW shop or shop AEW has figured that out like with these micro brawlers do you see that real fast up yeah oh so that was a very interesting move as and that was a donkey kick to the face as Roddy grabbed the top rope and tried to flip over and JFMJF put a boot to the face she's only five four I didn't know that and he just did the making fun of Adam Cole with him JF baby yep from the second rope and then took a backbreaker to the Messiah of the backbreaker I wasn't gonna say for a reason way to do that I don't I think everything else was trademarked yeah it was just a weird label for this he's gonna go next to my chance Brody King that I found at Walmart a chase action figure yeah okay because they do chase brawlers too yes that's how a chase and they also do the chase on the pins too yes they do because I have the one the brisco chase is it weird that I heard him say chase burger king went on that last part burger I think I think I'm just hungry but I'm still mad because burger king was my jam and I can't do anything there you can you have to order on a potato bun I hate potato buns I don't taste the difference I refuse to acknowledge the seats you can well they just they just redid the one over here yeah very excited went by there today thinking maybe they got the Coca-Cola freestyle no dice oh because a lot of burger kings have the Coca-Cola freestyle okay I it's the machine with the touchscreen and you can do the things I have a question I have a question for you that actually pertains to this okay and I want to get everybody's input on that bleeding nothing I think it stands running MJ after the chest oh he's not bleeding no that that is that is bruising but there is more Tanner going along with that there might be a small scrape in that scope but it's nothing too bad but MJF just hit what was essentially pages ramp or sarah formerly page per rampage DDT do you think there's going to be issue or is it because it's MJ after there's no problem but I hate when they do that no it steals other people's bits and it makes it like I am preserve your finish and if you're using it allow me to put it this way PD William said it best sorry guys didn't mean for the destroyer to be a transition move by the same token though how many of those people remember the last time sarah was in the that makes me sad it makes me sad too but yeah in a what have you done for me lately world a lot of people wouldn't have recognized that outside of people of our ilk I just noticed something else about MJF's gear and I don't want to interrupt or whatever the MJF that is printed in the style of like Rick Flair on the back of his trunks as tradition is also in the Bruins font yep were they wrestling it new working yeah so a I believe it's the prudential center yeah which is the home of the devils who might be the biggest rival or they're the biggest rival may be Boston which I think is rival is reading boo no no we had boom earlier on this I know I know I think your jersey devil yeah I there's a part of me that will always respect the devils because of martin brodoor they they ruin the star's day more than once that's true 2001 that's fine there's a one what's your conference team that was a great rival you though that was really was oh that was right there is one that just especially when you get with the person the on when you call it on defense I guess rolls off of it it just looks really good I remember I saw clip this was like 10 15 years ago this easily 300 pound wrestler picked up this hundred pound woman wrestler and did that move and when she hit his knees she's just like bounced off but look like she like died I want to say I know that clip and it was Candice Loray it was Candice Loray I believe if it's the same clip I'm thinking of it was Candice Loray now what most people don't remember Candice Loray is one of the biggest I don't know if we can say a certain word but it starts with bad and ends with two S's but when she was part of world's cutest tag team they were doing legit hardcore spots and everything and that's the part that is a little bit weird with me for her AWE right now is knowing that she can do things that virtually no other female competitor and half of the male roster can do but it doesn't fit her character nor the story right now so it's a little bit odd but she legitimately has done some amazing stuff obviously there is some uh disclaimers of who was the other part of world's cutest tag team that had some issues but if you can separate they had some really really amazing matches and I believe multiple tag team championships that were not gender specific uh like pro wrestling gorilla and down in mexico and various other promotions where they did some amazing work the most common image that people have recognized from that run was them being held or their hands being held up by the referee in victory with both both members of that tag team meaning Candice Loray as well completely crimson mask all the way down her face uh Roddy has tapped out to the salt of the earth Fujiwara armbar so I like how he lip syncs to the yeah to his do his initials the only thing I like better than my own initials as me my voice saying yeah yeah works perfectly apparently the blue meany is greater than mjf according to a sign of the crowd you mean team who meany in the front yeah well that's not him holding it somebody behind him but they're probably giving their problem tribute to the bw o mjf now has a share see this is this is the other thing I was expecting was to heighten the deal because the smartest part about this with cold not being in this match independent of the fantasy booking which I very much like your ideas around or your ideas on this one um is the same reason that we see Roman versus Jacob Fatou being held off as a one-on-one because that is a money match for later oh the still man eyes oh did you uh speak a book return he's doing an indie gate on the 15th of December and here comes cold shout out Matt Mashler and his a friend and the rest of the undisputed kingdom there is a sign of the crowd this is remember Wardlow you're saying you're a qt marshal after thing that boat girl sorry mjf qt marshal yeah yeah he doesn't do very many indie dates he actually does a lot more than you realize he just doesn't advertise the ludge uh because the aspect and one of the things that we've learned in that is as the big performers in AEW they are fairly uh often allowed to work indie dates at their discretion but AEW gets first right of refusal okay so one of the things that they also say with oh Kyle O'Reilly has showed up and has pushed cold to the ground because he's kind of a wild card in this whole thing yeah he is he is the middle ground because everybody else is technically part of the undisputed kingdom but Kyle O'Reilly is not but he is friends with all the members of undisputed kingdom even if it's strained like it is with cold right now and he's with the conglomeration and I love that name yeah I apologize what was I saying before the sidetrack on that one oh the the indie dates so one of the things is with AEW having first right of refusal in case they want them to do a spot somewhere they actually don't advertise it often or widely because there's that possibility of getting pulled off of it and especially with somebody as in demand is MJF who they can plug and play in an interview at a given moment he's one of the ones that they're like you can do the dates we're in trying to keep it under wraps but there's a distinct possibility you're gonna get pulled off to go do a variety interview or go to do the next thing like in this for this one in Newark there's a billion outlets in New York and the tri-state area so odds are you want your best talker and MJF is the best talker on the planet right now I don't care what anybody says I'm not counting Hayman because he's not an active or an active participant in wrestling but as active participants MJF number one no question but because you know you can rely on him to sell whatever it is you need him to sell and do it well he has to be very reserved on it as we're preparing for Mercedes and Monet versus Chris Statlander Don we have a pin we have a sticker we have two items an autograph and a poster let's do let's be daring let's do two items two items yeah let's do the two items one of the two items yeah don't do them both we do have two whole crates yeah that is a valid point yeah but we also have an AEW length paper right but true one of the items is not like I like what it is but I'm not a fan of these kinds of things so you appreciate what they've done but it's not something you would use it is one of the I'm sorry can we acknowledge Chris Statlander's aha entrance because it is a brilliant it is great it is one of those rope backpack things useful and we probably shouldn't have done this before the last match because it is branded to the undisputed kingdom oh that's nice that's cool Ricardo you have first rights to refusal don't pass Alex please oh it's cloth it's not that great I will take it all right fair enough the other item to put anything else I take it the other random item is I don't know what you would consider this it's kind of a mini what did they call those things the wrestling buddies that were like the pillows oh yeah no I believe it was wrestling buddies this is a mini version of that a voodoo kind of okay it's it's a it's plushy okay it's very that's beautiful what is that velvet feel to it and it is the Darby Allen oh this should say I would say probably about six inches tall and it's it's it's it is called a brawler buddy according to its tag what's on this chest that's this that's it so to clarify it says nothing's over till you're underground that's what he actually has tattooed on this so to clarify the originals were called wrestling buddy uh-huh there is the newer version of the WWE cells called the bleacher creatures the fanatics there is the brawler buddy which is the term for AEW and then they have the bleacher buddy which is an offshoot of the bleacher creatures so size changing okay Ricardo pass on Darby done I'll pass Alex I almost said something I don't know where I love to say but I'll say it starts with Darby is and refers to a piece of the body and I don't want it okay it will go to the swag box at this point Mercedes-Benz has made it to the ring without chamele now I want to clarify if that was somebody else that is a high-quality item and I would have gladly taken it okay but again you don't like Darby I'll tell you off air okay excuse me actually I can probably put it on air yeah with a big allegedly tag no okay we're not gonna do it off air so who wins this in the end just don't because the problem is it's not for both belts which I like I would love to see Statlander witness with shenanigans from chamele costing Mercedes the match because we've been teasing this chamele finally being done with her for a few weeks now and but as rumors have said and Alex tell me if this rumor has been debunked or proven I have heard she has that Mercedes-Benz has created control I have heard the same thing there has been no confirmation but there's also been no denial in that scope now like you were saying about with chamele costing her I think that your this what this leads to is Mercedes wins proceeds to continue to be herself to further drive the wedge between her and chamele and then chamele is the one to eventually get thrown her because as we know chamele brick house not chamele the brick house right longest reigning NWA champion not named mildrid burr I believe although the belt is named that is the mildrid yes and I believe for that reason yep but has had amazing matches is very quality as a performer and has shown herself to be a diverse entertainer and able to do a lot of things as we have said many many years ago I openly said there is literally nothing about chamele that isn't main event money not mone money except her speaking voice which has gotten better it has gotten better she had there has been some learning there but I think there's also when you even at your worst are the best talker in your household there's that aspect uh sign in the crowd uh even baby Yoda doesn't like Mercedes oh and then there's free chamele yeah that's the other side of that sign yeah but at that same time it's I don't want to say Mercedes is a bad performer or wrestler somebody I actually had a very healthy discussion about this because I am the one who has repeatedly said Mercedes is the fourth best of the four horse women and it's not close but somebody who is a very big Mercedes fan was trying to say that she's not as bad as she looks in AEW it's the fact that she does not get as much work with a lot of these other women with the way AEW's schedule is structured and that Mercedes is trying to do more lucha eskmoos or things that are higher degree of difficulty and unfortunately a lot of times that winds up looking sloppy instead of now my counterpoint in that very nice heart of the outside off the apron off the apron on statlinder my statement to that is then you shouldn't be trying to do it for the first time in a live match the only people who should ever ever ever ever be able to get to do that are four names Shawn Michaels and the undertaker and Randy Orton and Seth Rollins only two times something crazy has been attempted where they couldn't get it right and they nailed it live the problem with that though when you talk about AEW is that they don't do house shows exactly that's that's why I'm saying they're there needs to be a situation where there's no house shows so they're freed up on other days you know at this level they all either have a ring have a gym or have a gym with a ring so they have the opportunity to practice and if they don't I know some people that people through the ring are every day in the name of Natalia Knightheart and TJ Wilson great heel moved by Mercedes no day counting with the ref at the same time call me crazy you're crazy wasn't a w attempting to do house shows a little more if they were and they were called house rules yeah that's okay yeah it lasted like three weeks yeah that they never did it but even then their house shows were like we're gonna run a Friday or we're gonna run a Saturday and that was pre rampage in collision now the interesting thing is is when they didn't do house shows and one of having rampage in collision they weren't happening on Friday or Saturday because they were recording them now there's a little bit of gray in there depending on what their needs are or their production schedule stat later not back in the ring now it is this match but what I really want them to do and this I know this is nitpicking I want that belt to have the old TBS logo I could see you know what yeah I like the super station logo that's what I'm talking about yeah that's the one they went to when they went to very funny or whatever they did I was almost 20 years ago that was 20 years ago yeah oh god it doesn't form us 20 years ago anybody else feel their back lock up a little bit before that sir oh this is a Mercedes-Benz name match so I'm gonna go to the bathroom all right she came in with so much hype it just does not look up to it in my opinion but I didn't think she would that's my thing that it's I think she should have spent some more time in Japan refined more because I don't think that that she's a terrible wrestler she's not it notice uh Chris statler had to pull the arm back because her arm was under the under the ropes at that point do you do you think part of the reason why she didn't go over as well it's because of how she left WWE no no to me that doesn't have anything to do with it I excuse me do you think well do you think her having the two belts was a java wwe just no because the new japan thing to me was makeup because I think she was supposed to win that tournament originally and then when she got injured in the world night game match I think it was like when you get healthy again we'll put this belt on you yeah I don't think she should have it because I'm not a big fan especially with new Japan strong of crossing the streets because new Japan strong struggles enough as it is it needs it's it's like I feel about ring of honor it needs to be its own thing when you have ring of honor champions or ring of honor talent that was not good uh on aw and vice versa you're not giving the people that need that TV time the TV time there's a lot of great talent in ring of honor that is not getting featured because you keep putting AEW guys on that show and then taking you meant on our way 20 yeah ring of honor so when you're taking 20 to 30 minutes of your weekly show playing a classic match which drives me to the brink let ring of honor be its own thing you like the aerial view it's it's a weird camera because it's a weird video quality I like to from the roof why not TNA did a really good job with that in some of my favorite matches of all time and it was that best of seven when it was beer money and motor city machine guns they used that angle a lot do you remember what they called it W or F by the beginning of the day that that camera angle from the top the why we call it it wasn't yeah yeah what why the coyote came uh okay yeah wrong king jerry law there's like crazy wild coyote on the ladder match yeah king through the ladder matches did what was the sentence he used to call jerry king it was a king jerry lawler or jerry lawler king and the fact that he still can come up with ways to save people's names that make me giggle every week and even if you expect it he'll find something to eat whether it be an enunciations or a very easy tina okay yeah it's Steve McClane is one of my favorites right now I just want them to do a die hard parody with uh what are you doing here Jean Gina one chain one chain up and then have you seen see him Bob Dees that I don't know have you looked by the Pepsi machine you know it's funny I was going to say do you know that Mercedes-Benz does not have the most wins at WrestleMania in her own family she never won a video she won one as a tag team yeah she has never won a singles magic mania but snoop dog has or cousin has just a shame pull up his leg because he blew up everything inside of one anger the snoopy dog dog yeah the snoopy the dog I am to pop these done that one he's the one will never that I could never give a straight face because if you get the chance to go back and watch that of every time he tries to save a close your eyes and tell me you're not thinking of mario I'm about to start with Chris Jericho with through that chapter oh Kurt angel Kurt angel love that move always a big go one two up for the ropes now to clarify that move that statler just hit you may commonly know as chaos theory the rolling German suplex that Chad Gable employees stat later just nailed a perfect one now I will say this Mercedes-Benz does know how to make other wrestlers look good but when you weigh 64 pounds and all you do is ragdoll yeah it makes it a little bit easier but if you really want and I this was my other note if you really want to see how real talent makes others look good even when it's difficult number one watch that crucifix mini bomb that statler just sold but go back and watch battling the valley from new Japan between willow night and gale and Mercedes-Benz because willow conservatively might outweigh Mercedes by 200 pounds but bumps and sells so incredibly from Mercedes you don't even think about that separation do we see her tonight I hope so I love willow because she's I don't think she's cleared yet well you and I had the fantasy booking of we want statler to win this and then the next program to be willow having her back against menei on any kind of return but it's like we're still not cool but we're gonna hash it out over the tbs title well it was interesting because somebody asked statlander about her severing ties with oh jeez I just lost his name no stokely yes I wanted to say Malcolm Bivens but that's who he wasn't NXT correct and she said there was a range so that we were gonna take out willow we did that don't need the services anymore good way to tell a story so it makes willows return that much more interesting I just want to point out the excessively large yarn from Ricardo is the correct response to a mercedes menei so that the stokely crisp dumped him or they are just they they ended their business relationship and now with with the hurts to the kid it's kind of diminished stokely storyline well I'm hoping they have something in the chamber for this because it's it's overshadowing but did you see the interest regarding the hurt syndicate did you see the interesting statement from MVP ice this week about what Vince wanted to try and make the hurt business yep I saw the headline I didn't read the article so Ricardo I'll leave the floor to you if you want to take it he wanted them to be nation of domination that I did I did see that now he brought in Ron in mark yeah he brought in Ron Simmons and Mark Henry talked about adding them for the continuation factor and MVP in conjunction with all of the members of the hurt business were like no this is not about race this is not about the nation I know I'm specifically looking away from the box it is about them as a unit rather than a defining characteristic of them yeah and I was like I you know what I kind of respect to the willingness to stand up to Vince especially in that era but that's probably why we lost the hurt business long before we should have oh that same remind me when the rock or before he was the rocker gets the redoy Johnson where I would when I have to miss like can I have a mic for like two minutes because they covered that in young rock yeah so this is a race thing yeah it's a respect thing yeah yeah no I would be more fascinated now Rob you read the rock says correct many many years ago okay I'm curious if there's a chapter or section of that covered that's right yeah okay the only because the first place I saw it was when they talked about that in young rock and it was an incredible episode I learned it from the book got you talks about it in the books like yeah it's not it's not a race it's not a black it's not a race thing yeah it's like a respect thing and then after a certain point of the book it goes into third person and because the rock was still the rock at that yeah and they they did write those in character a lot the first one that truly broke that aspect was mankind it's have a nice day wait he was a freshman exactly but what I'm saying is he what they wanted to do a series of books but they wanted them in character and mankind was like I'm not writing that yeah let me rephrase Mick Foley was not doing that even though it was have a nice day by mankind and then the later print was Mick Foley I give him a hug that book that book got me through jury duty because I actually I got on a jury and I was on a jury for a week and in all the down times I was actually reading have a nice day no that was Foley is good that's the second one yeah it was Foley is good that got me through jury duty got you Mercedes with the Eddie Guerrero shimmy which is so out of practice she doesn't even do that right it's just her what I appreciate her given the given the props given the nod got in your ranger sweater that's a good looking sweater oh the NY yeah uh nice stoutlander with the catch off the top rope again when you're 64 with one two oh that's not going to work for me sister I'm sorry I want that out of t-shirt Mercedes Monday with a big mustache oh my god if anybody is an artist that's listening to this I will pay you for the act all right down while we're got a little bit of a low the action here we have a sticker we have a pin we have a poster we have an autograph let's do the pin-in poster all right you can't talk it isn't it the pin is one that I believe I already have so look at in mind okay so do not defer to it because you know I like the pins because I'm pretty sure I have this one okay I can say with a 95% sure what's it gonna say show me and I'll run real quick actually I can verify that okay but regardless we actually talked about this earlier because the pin does ask a question bro no if it's a little house you do have this pin swarms house that is the pin your card I'll take it all right and then we're doing the poster as well yeah yeah you do have that one I do remember that so the poster you have no space yeah the poster I'm just gonna go because I've done interesting we're telling the story of stat lenders knee continuing to hurt and then a snoop dog level frog splash on her knee oh this poster yeah Ricardo is Eddie Kingston with his body of sucks eggs t-shirt and there is a printed sucks eggs signature and the lower left corner that's hilarious I'm so gonna pass on it because I have done I'll pass Alex I have no space for that but let me take I'm coming back I'm coming back I'm coming back I want to see this signature in the bottom a printed I'm too I am also going to pass make it but I do like that but unfortunate situations like Ricardo was saying I don't have much space on walls in my house where I don't have to get approval that was one of that was a bit when he was shooting with Claudio he was in Claudio sucks eggs it's just like which is the dusty sucks eggs that Terry funk used to use now if that said redeem these nuts that yeah crowd is on their feet at this point Mercedes hit her finish and stat lenders kicked out yeah and then the crowd is on their feet and they're clapping and chanting and so and still no cameo there's an 80 dog giant easy dub that's it don't aid up this thing I I never comfortable with that the BWO no longer hanging out ringside they have probably been asked to go back to the seats they paid for in the upper deck well the upper of them because looks like the top two decks are are roped off oh into face or it's their pee break we're getting another beer could be could be could be to get them to the smash stat lenders uh stess of strength in the roll-up to nope going Mercedes going for nope a lot of a lot of oh that was her chick fight her chicken fight oh face first on to the mats now this are oh wow very nice move into the tombstone Mercedes trying to fight out of it and attacking the injured leg she just bite her leg yeah oh that's uh yeah like this can't be the finish yep that's the finish that was sloppy yes did tell me you have creative control without telling me you have creative control are you she does not have creative control are you fracking kidding I said without I know you can only let's go wow wow garbage and Mercedes are you crying because she's one you can run a great match with a bad finish pat paterson greatness so pat paterson that was one of his statements which is why he was the king of the finish that's why he always had a job no matter what pat paterson knew how to finish any match at any time or would have an idea that nobody else did it was fascinating first intercontinental champion correct yes he was on a fake tournament in Brazil there's some piece pat paterson we miss you we miss your finishes look correct I like I like I like I was just looking at it like this is stupid can brick maker come out and just dump her I don't know if she shows up in black and gold it could be well and she's not the one that moved back to Pittsburgh boy speaking of that who did that was a tough night there's a for our picks oh god I had Cleveland did you yeah yeah I did this before I realized they were like uh colon so what oh I was trying to not catch it on the microphone post um they yeah yep yep yep yep yep yep yep yep yep yep yep yep yep yep and he moved back to Pittsburgh allegedly okay and then there was something about like Pittsburgh was like over the last four on Thursday nights or somewhere like Tomlin is over his last eight on Thursday night games and in prime time games I want to say he's like two and twelve for some time so we're not gonna do you don't know we're getting into position we have to do something here we're getting into position on the stage oh I just realized they got the old raw set with the curve yeah mount monitors oh car she goes oh up next we have hangman out of page versus switchblade Jay white dog we have a sticker we have an autograph I'm saying this sticker this is the match that steals the card sticker it took me a minute to figure out what this sticker was but you did grab your head I can tell that for my peripheral it's not a bad thing okay but remember just I only have so much because I don't want to spoil anything and it looked to me like you just put your head in your hands like oh I had it I had it okay like I said right now you're good you're good because it is a member of the women's division they are writing a unicorn that has rainbow mane oh I had to get my camera on my phone and zoom in on it to see who it was because it's beautifully done it's just a small representation of said person because it's a small decal it is well night again basically as a valkery oh wow I'm good don't I'll pass Alex allow me to take it closer sure oh it's a very it's almost photorealistic yeah so the wings are awkwardly coming off the head it it breaks my rule of the real picture one but this is an excellent decal yeah so I will actually keep this yeah I was you know I thought I put stickers on stuff exactly I genuinely every time you say decal I start thinking like does it fit with my laptop so what are the chances that hangman sets New Zealand on fire very slim because it's not a liked out match this is yeah I and that's the kind of thing you have for a finish I like your concept that this is going to be one of the matches that steals the card but for me this is a dynamite made of it yes it is it absolutely is but I would also argue that this is one of the least impressive cards AEW has done in a while to me and this was the third one did this come before after revolution after I believe wait because the the just on this one is as I still cannot believe they stuck to the name full gear because full gear was the joke on Adam page because the young bucks were calling him chunky during the BTE segment so he wasn't ready to be in full gear okay so that's why full gear became his crowning paper view when he finally beat Omega but I believe it was after revolution okay and the reason I say that is because with full gear being the Adam oh nice use of fire in the fire row um I love they should have had a chair for him but I do they should have had a chair they still use that footage of the burning house yeah on the big drawn yeah um but to clarify because revolution was where you had moxley's lights out match with Kenny Omega it's where you had your first heavyweight title change between Jericho and Moxley uh so I feel like revolution was the second one they did because it was about a six month gap from all out which or excuse me it was a six month gap from all out which they did after double or nothing because double or nothing was the first technically all in was the first right it wasn't under AEW at that time then you had all out then I believe revolution I think full gear was the fourth one okay uh I could be totally wrong on that and somebody with a magic box can verify would you say they said he moved to Pennsylvania but he's from it's from Lancaster but he lived in Pittsburgh that's where he met Baker and was trying to bring him up and with the high school Lancaster which is like Lancaster okay I've now seen two signs that say the same thing and I don't understand it leaves his plants leaves is plants I don't know Ricardo speak for your generation I think I'm on the Gen Z I'm not Gen Z I'm the one you all but I've seen two different signs like there's that very ornate one they just showed and then somebody has a hand I went fishing I'll do it myself on camera right I mean I can't say this has been a rough show so far but there's been nothing that has made me go this was fifty dollars I'm okay with this this feels like what would have been a great dynamite anniversary show so far to me yeah okay I like that I like it's not paper view level but I mean we still have a few title matches to go did you see what that January first show is going to oh no get another ankle injury I mean I mean they're just oh it's switched by that's what they've been telling that story okay but did you see what they've made that January first show to be I believe I did see that it's gonna be this year's fight for the fallen yes that's right so what's up dude what is there they don't have a January paper view announced correct the closest you have to that is world's end and that's actually the end of December right but they didn't they do a January one I don't remember them ever doing January I thought it was world's end which was like nothing until revolution in February which now is in March correct but the earlier revolutions were in February to fill the gap well they did world's end last year December 30th and then March was revolution March 3rd wow also a sign and they've been the crowd saying hangman drinks diamond dogs I think that's somebody trying to get their own stuff over because people have been grasping on diamond dogs because apparently the term is public forum now that is the term was not copyrighted with the song beyond music it was not copyrighted by the TV show with Ted Lasso beyond fiction and people have used it for a different thing I'm sorry did that just say La Greca is bomb yes but I thought it said La Greca is S bomb right next to La Greca yeah which I I think it's got arrows pointing to him too might be a friend of his oh that well he's sitting right next to him I would guess so and if we're being completely candid and honest if you were at the level of La Greca if I was at the level of La Greca I know I'm buying the seats next to me because I don't want the general public next okay and it looks like that one or or Nate sign that said leaves his plants has hangman on it I wonder if it's a BTE thing probably because I couldn't find anything just googling but who knows it's it's probably some stupid inside joke or maybe is that a must an open thing not close enough to La Greca leaves this plants right yeah leaves this plants yeah I couldn't find anything beyond what a leaf is in wiki and all of that wiki wiki wiki wiki okay did you notice the guy holding up the again terribly written sign that says we want tables but tables is xed out and it says good stories okay I can I can endorse the message but it's during a match put it down you jerk I almost said the other thing glad you didn't I was close don't want to have to go back and hit it later we're behind the page because I got stuff to do yeah it looks like the top two tiers in this arena are roped off because as we know coming up next year AEW has said they're going to be playing smaller arenas right around 2500 which I have no issue with you know no where your audience is and meet your audience there I'll be interested to see how how this thing in Australia goes in February and maybe that's what they're counting with with fight for the fall and being their special t-show for January and then whatever the one is is it grand slam that they're doing in Australia is that they called it it is a BTE thing okay oh okay yeah I didn't see but being the elite it's their it's their YouTube series that they do every Monday I think they don't do that anymore they don't they haven't I think they haven't for about a year now wow yeah well they're too busy as EVPs wasn't trying to heal this up doing it oh really I thought it was before that okay well then again I'm trying to full blown heal okay and then now there's being the dark order but I don't even watch that you know what I want that to be a better thing right because I just have you are ordered to be a better thing but I'm going to give that aspect have you watched anything for mystery wrestling is that that's ono's promotion I seen clips it's hilarious there's the one clip that I've seen this the guy hits the chair in the tosses and balls and then yeah the other guy just like no hold on I want to clean up exactly what you're saying so what Ricardo's referring to is somebody goes for the Eddie Guerrero spot where they bake a chair shot goes to toss it to their competitor the competitor just watches it hit the chair hit the ground as their opponent does LaGuerreca s cowboy s okay now to the follow up is the competitor who was the target of said Eddie Guerrero proceeds to then physically throw himself through a door in the corner then nobody saw coming so both members of the commentary team i.e. Evil Uno and Colt Cabana e to page what was the one with Cabana then I don't know but the one it's e to page because I love the movie either way they just lose their mind laughing and there's no talking for a solid like five minutes what was the now now I have to look up what the Cabana one was because there's another one that's the Cabana yeah the one the one it's always e to page one because don't call that on page I see look Lisa's place but it's there's a picture of hangman no we got to say it earlier there was a picture of him there but I saw I was I was assuming it was something he maybe he said it was from it was from VT now to clarify the earlier statement I found a list of special shows which includes paper views and uh episodics that happened to be highlighted the first one as we know double or nothing in May 25th 2019 your next two are specialty shows of fighter fest on June 29th and fight for the fallen on July 13th your next official paper view is all out August 31st 2019 followed by full gear November 9th 2019 so the full gear was third revolution was fourth which happened the next February on the 29th of 2020 right correct and then the world ended and then you had double or nothing May 23rd 2020 which was after the world had ended because we got the gloriousness that was the stadium stampede yes god how much I enjoyed that I wish Rob was here for that part sim stampede when they kept dunking that party yes I kept changing that was one of the funniest things but but the other part with that that I very much enjoyed was there was there were willing to be serious at times like some intense action the level and then there was other times where where you had the absolute joking like Matt Hardy version one delete all of that that came through the stadium stampede but they gave equal action to but at that same time you had those serious spots where like Sammy got hit by the the gator and things like that so you wound up getting the equal opportunity of this is here for the people that love orange Cassidy this is here for the people that just like violence this is they covered the entire basement with that original stadium stampede and unfortunately I feel like they've never been able to recapture it and I really hope it's not that we need a pandemic for them to do that making a cameo appearance currently artist extraordinaire clothing clothinger is aren't they called it cluffy a cluffy a bring people to stop by to drop off my latest order from found one apparel dot com that I will be wearing on December 14th for the big grace descending show around pen cowboy church make sure you join us it's going to be a lot of fun right how are things going tired tired your business man that's why I'm tired but look at what they do is that's the one of the new new hoodies we haven't dropped it yet or we may not even drop it yet I like it because it's got the it's got the logo the logo that logo is on the back yeah okay it's a lamb lamb it's a lamb but I cannot tell you when I was in Vegas how many people thought it was a goat and I was like you really should look at the whole picture well in that same scope you have that aspect people are mostly used to goats being on there but there is the message yeah with the crown on top of it yeah yeah i'm tired i said i go to the gym oh i got one step step bro you still got to go to the gym yeah i was working down it's comic show today i got plenty of steps i had worked out this morning now i've got to go get the rest of my steps in as i just realized why i'm jealous of rob right now because he's got the treadmill that faces the tv i need to get that set up there was a lot of refotlety going on there but you're going you're also going to have he and his wife get ready to start a podcast very very soon somebody years out for that very excited about that found one doing very well at least you know it's getting plenty of coverage for me because i'm wearing it pretty much everywhere i go and it's quality clothing i was you know i'm gonna go get the jersey because i want the guys to see the jersey yeah yeah no we've still had some serious chain wrestling some big spots between Adam Page and switchblade and the laziest kick out of the night by J.

White that's cool still selling the ankle injury as well as getting dehydrated now we have Adam Page selling a knee injury so now they're both one like it well you know we didn't cover who do you think wins this Ricardo um honestly i kind of don't care because but who do you think uh uh i think jay should go over we need to get closer to new japan version of jay but um i lost room heard hangman jiggas of the war he's gone through with swarves that's all i think uh jay you need to go over i'm only warring this once this is the baseball jersey you can find a found one apparel.com talking about date 31 this is dope yeah look at the cool feel the quality of that yeah what i got when i got delivered i was like i only ordered one thing why is this package so heavy was in the back it talks about the concept of date 41 at least one of the concepts yeah they're cool yeah it's like the whole chapter it's like a whole story down in the back dude this is awesome found one apparel.com book market 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on the we're on the ramp now don who do you think goes over in this match see why any particular reasoning or just because you think just think are they now distancing from bullet club goal to just staying with the bang bang gang because it seems like they're not doing the bullet club goal thing as much i think there was a gray area about copyrighting they led to them focusing more on the bang bang gang because you'll notice that a lot of the bullet club merch has reverted back to new japan including the gold aspect i'm sure there's some still available pro move by j white if anybody caught that kicking the kicking the railing below where adam beige is kicking the railing to sell the and just trying to get just outside of camera angles so you don't see it yeah uh honestly for me i kind of um i'm going against the grain here and i i don't i'll throw it back to you on this route afterwards i kind of feel like adam page wins here because they're just going to keep going with this further insanity towards his goals and i wonder it could be an after match beatdown thing but i feel like j white is due for a bit of a vacation since it's a long trip for him with the holidays coming up and everything he just got back he did just get back from injury but he was stateside rehabbing allegedly was he from New Zealand okay now he also has residents in japan and you know what that makes him right now because he because he because he came through the young lion system of new japan uh which is where he earned his stripes so to speak even though lions are not the ones with those so what are your thoughts about adam page versus j white and who should come out on top and why here's my thing i don't think this worst thing is over yet really i don't okay because he's still lingering on me i looked your child at a house on fire and sat in a chair in front of it and drank whiskey while it happened i think that i don't think swerve gets involved tonight but i think that's going to be they're going to rekindle that right after world's end speaking of Kirk angel we need him to help adam page learn how to do an ankle lock oh that was a bad release too yeah but i just the the thing with page right now is like what else do you do with them there's no it's it's he's in a weird place within a e w because he had some banger feuds right out of the gate that is true and because of that now what you're dealing with with him is if he's not feuding with the elite you know and him and Kenny is tag champs and that whole thing it's like he gets lost in the shuffle i have a weird setup to a fantasy booking okay because we have told the story of adam page continuing to lose his mind to the point of setting somebody's childhood home on fire and enjoying a whiskey in front of it that's better with the ankle lock uh but what if you had adam page as more of a keel version of taker for Christopher Daniels who was kind of at odds with the elite where things get too out of control and he just sends the psychotic adam hangman page after whoever it is because i think the sword with all due respect i think the sword thing is done because he had sense moved on to the hurt send again and yes he's still using the fire in his entrance video and referring to adam page but i feel like that story has been closed okay it could revisit it absolutely they had a great program and as we know with wrestling give it six months and you're an entirely different person uh but i feel like adam page is what's the word rudderless at this point because he's kind of fit into wherever but with him losing his mind and still being over with the crowd i could see him just being the fallen angels mercenary if you will aka is fam and just let him run rough shot over anybody that's getting in the way like he is the ace in the hole for Christopher Daniels who has issues with the elite oh that's not the ditch no it's the dead eye okay i was hesitating because i was wondering if they were selling something on the knee landing since he's been injured on the knee uh dead another one yeah lazy cover two three no kick out you know jay white has done these lazy kickouts but when you get to this level i don't think it's as damning as it is at the indie level yeah because the least you have the cameras focused in and people can see that he's really throwing his arm over but it's part of that new japan where the kickouts they will teach them how to as the match progresses become less overt and intense to sell like we've been fighting for half an hour the longer it goes the more you get worn out but he but he has been doing the lazier kickouts on multiple occasions and i think what they're trying to do is more sell pages of offense with it here comes new so who's that guy with the fire pants that is hangman adam pay former substitute teacher he looks like ogre from revenge of the narrative a little bit a little bit oh i can see it's ogre and tubby Keith had a baby should have been a psychotic cowboy that's the song he's great there it is oh we have your winner it is jay white okay are you gonna get more of the hats only have one left i think okay now to clarify in that same scope we've had multiple discussions on like if you removed everybody's knowledge of current wrestlers and you are starting a company fresh who would be your first tank which means you don't have tribal chief roman you just get joe on oi i have long said i think i would start with j white because of him being so good at so much of a younger while being able to work as such a cool face while being here or just outright being a villain well and it's also well documented that oh that's the real reason i have said he is the prototype of what japan can do for somebody absolutely because his early work pre japan when you saw him on ring of honor or on tna slash impact wrestling there was just nothing but i just i remember the first time i saw switchblade jay white on new japan programming i was like this is now that my guy oh yeah out here comes that beat down i was referring to still mine over no so we are up on the stage and here comes the full ain't anything else along with boy wonder ref right on boy wonder because he looks like he's nine okay and he has a terrible haircut so he gets a haircut oh well you're good sure Christopher Daniel's problem well that's that's the reverse but you did call him getting involved so i will get the i don't i can't take credit when it's the absolute i will give you i will give you partial credit yeah closest to the pin all right while we're getting reset we do have the autograph from the end of the first the first crate it is someone we have already seen tonight up next we'll osprey kyle fletcher this is the god under the radar yes card stealer it is a great one of my personal favorites and just so you know record these have wet signatures these are not just printed out they actually are signatures it is the kyle o'riley oh i have that one can i see yeah i don't pass it over it is a half red dragon pose with my favorite tag team server yep now while Ricardo is looking over the signature hypothetical question isn't a bad decision to put those two matches back to back i'm gonna pass a kyle o'riley okay done i'll take it all right i don't think so because you're following a brawl with what will be incredible technical match that's a great point what i was more concerned with independent of stylistically which excellent excellent point i didn't even think of my problem is we've been to multiple shows where they wind up putting too much quality back to back and you wind up with an exhausted crowd so there's no heat for actor so what i was thinking more along the lines of if you told me to set up these matches i probably would have swapped the tbs title and the adam page j white match and use that as i refer to it as a p-brake which is sad for stat lender but verse eighty two know who you are uh but it gives you that break in the action before you get to this this is the one time i wish we could turn the volume up and not care about anything else because the osprey entrance music elevate uh elevated is um me ooh this is this is this is this is the oh this is not will osprey oh this is kind of what you're i don't know it's the punisher in the goat form and i dig it no it is osprey so he's yeah i thought it was a wasteland thing and then when they got to the front and you can see that the billy goat is done punisher style with that very nicely done also realizing with the other conversation i'm glad i didn't wear the first shirt i grabbed for today oh really yeah maybe today hmm yeah yeah he says normal juffle round what's that friends guys i think off and we appreciate him stopping by i'm starting to know what he needs to bring smiley jump around come out where he's very flashy this is very stripped down very black and white yeah i do dig it it oh no i do i do have a one issue even though i do like the goat punisher logo it looks and let me go punish him what's the point of the goat punisher so he's he's used billy goat okay and greatest of all time and things like that that's why along with bruv you'll see a lot of goat emblems and why he'll have like a ram head on the side of his normal entrance gear but with the way he has done the artwork it is punisher inspired now to circle back it looks an awful lot like broad lasner's tattoo yeah not the sword on the chest but the sort of no but his back tattoo okay so Kyle Fletcher dia king oh my god he's he he has gone full proto star queen uh i haven't seen him in a bit oh i don't understand uh don calis has come out i love that our our highlight on that betrayed Kyle we literally just know that calis means no here's the thing i hate the calis character the way i'm supposed to okay the performer of dawn calis i respected that crown his way too small yeah um and now he just has the ring in his shaved air cut it's something i didn't even think about simply show me that the old one uh ECW used to be on tn and or whatever that he was uh the uh network guy yes yeah yeah he was the network executive because he had that he was the jackal uh because the funny part is his first tryout with wf was to be an in-ring performer and they said no and i cannot remember who went to back for him and said no Vince just put him on the mic and let him make you money i don't remember who it was but somebody that Vince respected went to back for dawn calis let's see what ww who calis was he was the jackal okay remember the oddities okay the misstep that was the oddities he was the okay their manager he was their manager until all right until he looked at it and went this is terrible and they gave him the out which is why he was no longer with the oddities after a short run to doing the triggers oh before that he was managing courage correct did i just i think will be the best wrestling match tonight wrestling yes absolutely that that's why i made the distinction earlier when i said uh atom page and j white is the under the radar card stealer this is the over the board does give me the spot best i see here's the problem i i take offense to that term because will osprey has four years and kyle fletcher has shown in his brief singles run that they can actually tell a story beyond just being spots now for me a spot fest is basically just flippy do for the sake of flippy do uh whereas these guys can actually make a solid match out of it while including flips and such verse so do you understand why i i make the distinction there if given those rails do you still call it a spot fest i'm asking Georgia about yeah what do you mean spot fest was that that's what i was just explaining it done to me thank you to me a spot fest is a match where they just do flippy do and a while the crowd without any story if i may be looks too choreographed that's a that's a good way to put it but for me what i was harping on and you uh rob you had just stepped out but what i was explaining uh Ricardo said that he sees this as a spot fest i said i took issue with that because will osprey and kyle fletcher actually tell a story now to clarify my statement a spot fest to me would be the worst of ricochets where they were like just go do flips and entertain the crowd versus actually telling a story whereas we know ricochet can tell a story if given the time same with will osprey who learned it with new japan now in the story i'll tell you don calis i love him as an announcer he's this guy this guy could go don't tell us no this guy yeah i mean this guy as the announcer he could play the heel part but he could play the regular announcer you don't say he could play by player because he's intelligent but yeah but yeah i think it's like evil heal he could play like the guy the business man he could do multiple multiple a b c d e app i think as a manager i think he's one the best in the business today as a manager but there's not much managers anymore but that's well i think there there's a vincisum to that yeah it's the same reason why he just doesn't like didn't like tag teams it's the fact of you're paying for somebody to not be part of the show essentially now you also are devoid of people of the talent level and i i don't want to say keen in because that's too high of a bar but in the vein of a miselizabeth who absolute polyfamer but she didn't have to do much she would be present she would react she would be a story beat whereas callus can be in the story totally or accentuate the story and keep it in the he get involved not involved he can turn in all the 70 let's he okay is he on our side he helps out then he turns out stabging the back all that it's it's one of those and i i'm gonna i'm gonna change the the dialogue or the the verbiage there for a second with callus he's one of the few guys that i feel like could do virtually anything to surprise you that that was ugly and it's not that you don't expect it but that you can he does it in a way you don't see coming if i chair you said i'm trying to click because i still roll oh no i saw do you have any bit of gravity what do i know i'm good i'm good i'm good i'm good well i need to get up my knees are freezing oh it's okay but no no it's an excellent point you made done yeah about callus being good at everything whether it was that network executive with ECW being played by play straight forward on raw or being a that was a real like jab at EF that national network when they did it him as the because they were like basically trying that we want this thing to fail we don't care but if they were to give it a shot but also remember at one point he would come out wearing a headset too yeah i know which was a direct shot shot totally yeah we're actually telling what's going behind the scenes and this guy's actually the networker on is trying to basically bury us and i think ECW would have been more more more successful last the longer of tnm yeah national network we actually gave him a shot if they didn't go bankrupt i mean i mean if they actually wouldn't get you know given the you know the spot and everything in the promotion everything then trying to just bury it but what i'm saying is is in that same scope tnm didn't have the money to do it yeah they were trying to shut the doors and find a buyer yeah and just for for posterity sake to know around we saw four matches after this one okay so you always get your money source that is true we we have said that about uh AEW pay-per-views uh that you don't get skimmed now they may not be up to the same quality that we got used to for a very long time but i think that's because we have a flooded market with the number of pay-per-views they run versus them feeling special which is why if they wanted to go to as you put it the tnm plus model or the ufc model tnm plus is really the better model description there where you have multiple pay-per-view style shows but they are not charged for unless they're one of the big ones now for us sure that diminishes the importance of certain other ones but i think we can all agree double or nothing all in all out however you want to talk about that uh full gear and revolution are your big four yeah and those are the ones you would definitely have as a pay-per-view whereas everything else might be lower what were you thinking i'm just i said going into this match of Kyle Fletcher doing his best Randy Orton he literally just did the ddt off the middle road i'm sorry what did they call that i just call it ddt off the middle road are you avoiding the phrase no usually hate that phrase vintage vintage Jordan yes and i'm noticing a lot of black and gold tonight because even ex-caliber's mask is black and gold as i saw at the beginning of this match but ex-caliber's mask is always black and gold that's not new for him i thought he changed no i know no no no it's always black and gold like there's been white in it but it's always black and gold as the main motif but for me it's like the blacky gold then jf that was whole oh yeah but there's been more often than not people with that color scheme tonight are we overlooking what is an attempt at something and missing that allow me to say one of the things that we have talked about with multiple companies is wanting them to make the pay-per-views special we long miss and feel free to chime in if anybody disagrees we we have discussed rob and i have discussed that we miss the pay-per-view specific entrances yep the when you had tables ladders and chairs where they would string chairs to a wire the entire way to the roof or you had a backlash with the big hook that came through but things like that yes they are cost ineffective because there are one night thing but like we said with the banner if it works it works and it's worth it now where this started was if we're overlooking sorry i thought i was going to say if we're overlooking the motif if there's a reason because full gear has always been the industrial with the yellow and white in the logo if the gear is for both face and heels is trying to mimic a color scheme so you could say that's the full gear outfit and different aspects like that whereas you might get more of a red and black with double or nothing because that's their color scheme on the pay-per-view i'm wondering if there's something we've overlooked because it is well and the full gear and the full gear logo is golden black and white so i would be i that's kind of cool but i just had a thought when you were talking about the entrances you mean when i was rambling no you were really really really cool because you have this WWE experience in Saudi right now if you did something where yeah shout out mug zero sugar where you had an exhibit that rotated each month and you would have the the entrance setup even it was a smaller version of it that people could do the entrance stuff with like they do at the experience the fan experience for mania i want to say something but i'm thinking of words go for it keep going so you could just rotate oh hey this is what we did for backlash and people could do their own entrances and you could just kind of rotate through them once a month i'm gonna i'm gonna take that and i'm gonna go one step with you sure we know the ksa is not lacking in money there's a reason that they built a wwe experience there put the tape what be okay our next one survivor series war games so your entrances for that call it whatever war you want to use or something of its ill to make a unique entrance i don't have any specifics i'm merely stating make it a special entrance like we're talking about established because it is an age what i'm talking about for all okay i'm just i don't know but for the sake of the argument that i'm making for any plea okay so you have the special entrance for war games ksa is going to pay to have it shipped over there have whatever that prior plea was part of their tear down is to send it to ksa and when that next year rolls around it's already come back to stanford because they paid for the other one to come in and that way you just cycle whatever the last show was through so people of that fandom who are going to wwe experience from anywhere in the world can be like oh this just happened that was cool let me see what they used i mean just think about when we first started watching wrestling at various ages i believe we were all very young men at that time yeah and we were captivated by what we saw who among us hasn't you know asked what do you smell at the rock it's cooking or said that's the bottom line because Stone Cold said so give them that era now where they can do the entrances like rob was suggesting on the real entrance honestly i would be debating to go over to debauch it was excuse me to the ksa to do that because that's a cool thing for me especially if you let me swing in on the hook i know wavers would be so i know i hate jeff party but i would still do it you know this this these have been some really good exchanges in this map but they've been targeted they've been telling the story it's been the back and neck of osprey it's been trying to punish the front of uh fletcher to set up for the hidden blade which is why he's now bleeding from his chest and a bunch of super kicks that have been done so well that if steve carina was rings like he had no voice left hook kicks many of them were hook kicks yeah but he still call him super kicks because he likes to yell back that's also true now if let's say they had the uh jeez these two works so well together these two works so well period yeah oh before we move off of it i was making a statement earlier while you were uh seeing Brent out and yeah definitely check out found one about calm thank you so i don't know if you were here for us to realize that it was a punisher motif with the goat head you mentioned i heard you mentioned that but the problem i have with it which makes me sad because i really like the logo i can't shake that it looks like lesnar's back tattoo i did hear you say that especially with the black and white and i wanted your input on that one like is it too close or is it far enough apart it was far enough apart from me but i can see how you see that yeah i'm telling you right now you put that i it's been a while since i've made a purchase i'm not gonna lie in the in the wrestling sphere since i have been uh told that i should be cutting more shirts out of my wardrobe rather than having more shirts i'm waiting to see what that logo is going to be available on or with so i have a question for you you were saying the traveling that sent the entrance and so forth to to the ks i say um if they shipped over the pandemic russle mania sign sign the camera that was jumped off and they put a fun pit i'd pay to go three times my man are you kidding me i'm hitting the swan ton of frogs man and who knows i might be just you know punch drunk enough after those first two i may go for a shooting star press i don't all right gentlemen we're going to get into the second crate woohoo we start with the t-shirts my hope is that i grab one of these i'm not kidding but i will not force the issue fun story about that off the air i don't think this shirt makes it to this side of the room yeah that's usually how it works when we but there is a part to this shirt that kind of brings me joy oh no i'm i'm not making eye contact i'm avoiding it at all costs because i want to get my hopes up i'm just going to go ahead and say it is an mjf shirt oh no wait this is the next box we get first tips right no yeah i hate but the thing about this shirt that i absolutely love it is the regal motif if you will like royal not steve or eagle or william but look at the i'm gonna show this to Alex first look at the very bottom oh Ricardo if you take this shirt i will give you forty dollars for it oh my god i want you to look at the bottom of the design of this shirt because it brings me joy it has a kitty on it it doesn't just have any kitty what about go ahead don't okay no you want it you have some to say yes i want this shirt um then you're going to have to talk to him forty dollars no don't you don't be that guy i'm gonna be that guy because how many times have we missed out on mjf stuff because of a bad rule no but still okay allow me to try this put your phone down please okay now to clarify for the listening audience what's the name of the cat don't know then i feel like you shouldn't have the rights to it i can name the cat i can't name the cat it's got a cat i'm happy but it's actually mjf's cat i know that i know that but i'm just saying and i know the name of the cat Ricardo you're up no he said he was going to take it yeah oh we did yeah okay no you should absolutely let's see don't you're giving him his first mjf shirt thank you now to clarify the cat's name is piper okay which makes sense yeah because he was a big fan of rody yes that that is actually why the cat is named piper now i'm gonna go ahead and do the second shirt okay i'm gonna just go in and say i don't want the second shirt it's long that's fair but this is this is a very done all elite great that if you it is because the other shirt the other shirt is i like the theme of this shirt it is oh mr. Pittsburgh it is it is brick Baker okay the shirt oh it's got her manager has kicked out of the hidden blade it is it is her name at the bottom with the AWD md yeah but the top of it it says overrated oh but the second r has an h written over it so it says over hated yep that's a good one Ricardo has already said he will pass yes doll yeah well but you have so many mjf shirts you need a balance i know so now i will tell you don't going forward yeah we have a poster we have a pin we have three items and a micro role and the autograph let me check for later yeah yeah so i was just giving you heads up for like hey so the real question is do we want to do this stuff or more interested in or do we do something that we know we pass on a lot well one of them here's Don saying let me see that shirt he's about to hijack it one of the items in the box i'll trade you for the brochure is a double threat now i will say that one of the items in the crate is a double threat that is that is probably one of the better mjf shirts i've seen honestly that's one of my favorite mj i'll switch it he says he'll trade you the bruv for the you know we have as we have a trade and now he can't answer the question there you go there you go gonna mac a feed up yes so Rob you're saying what uh what places are getting around here you're talking anything you want is within shooting distance here this isn't what you're in the mood for food from what you're the mood for and i'll tell you i'm assuming we're talking about food yeah yeah because i say there's there's a place before we get here that's in the oh my god tombstone pile drive on to the steps from the apron yeah there's bronze or circle bells like donalds there well what's something kind of there's something like heart eight you know heart eight's probably closing it well that's why i would say you're you're probably just going to be timing oh is that the barbecue and it's wonderful okay i was there last time it's a matter of fact got the last of the uh prime rib of the day oh lucky was it an end cut what's hard it's it's it's it is so it is a traditional uh it's more traditional because you actually walk through the paint versus the pseudo bit like them 50 um do great stakes but the well that's what i was going to say the good thing about heart eight is i've heard so many people complain about like oh the brisket's dry or different things like that it's like get something fresh their stakes are amazing the pork chops i wouldn't even know about if it wasn't for rob urban uh but something um what's up with the sausages or whatever or hot dogs or whatever the should i do about fortillos fortillos yeah fortillos you could yeah they might be open they were out here yeah this right straight right right straight yeah yeah yeah like literally from here if i was to hit it straight i might be able to hit a golf ball and they're about to open a one fifty one copy right next to it i saw that i was surprised and then they're building great chili burger and they're and they're building something i would probably unimpressed with them they're building something caddy corner to that fortillo's i don't know what you're talking about also when like oh like they're like well pre-opened but let me also clarify oh oh oh that was a variation of the tiger driver but oh kick out good way to sell the lazy kick out when the arm is being held down yes which i like a lot which tells the story of the shoulder coming up with the arm to follow um now to clarify i am a stickler on my chili cheeseburgers did you just get it spoiled for you yeah well that's why you don't mess around on your phone because we're recording it done we're three minutes behind we're longer than three minutes i think no anyways um but i am a stickler because i used to run restaurants up in pennsylvania and my go-to was to make my own chili cheese fries and chili burger okay so i am very particular about how i like my balance ooh we're just going to be an idea for next year friends are doing like a mac and cheese contest mm-hmm okay cheese nice cheese go with that very nice if you would like some uh oh lazy hidden blade on the return uh if you would like some help on that one riccardo reach out to me yes because i have the big kitchen and i would love to experiment with that one of my favorite things when i ran restaurants was coming up with stuff oh you know it's behind those moves those moves need to get more credit because it's quote it's just an arm ringer with a shoulder breaker but it always looks good it always makes a point and will osprey going for an Emmy on this one i think now he can't use the hidden blade because his arms are all messed up and he's alternating with shoulders he's working to yeah which is the smart way to do it but the other part with that is you're telling the story of working the shoulders up to the neck so he can't use the shoulders so he can't he can't use the shoulders to protect his neck which is where his problem is thanks for picking that one up so that's the end of the day the signaling the end of the match because i'm going to say something to you and then try something oh uh so now we have our haluva kick for the evening setting up for the superplex not going sky high but oh wow oh great buster onto the top turn buckle this last five minutes brought to you by el generico yeah and that is going to that's a great way to tell the end of that a brand bus she's that that was semi zanes original finisher is generico and roh her he's doing these with orphans makes go now i heard he was killed by the cartel oh don't call us has a crown that that's how he came out with oh did he oh yeah you know he came out as the king essentially as kyle fletcher king and it obviously like Ricardo is putting his hands up it is the aspect of the changing of the guard for the united empire potentially also the way don't focus the camera here the way osprey sold that in legit look like he's either dead or paralyzed well both he does a great job with that because there's there's been multiple will osprey matches where i have watched and i was like oh god was that a problem did everything is everyone okay who's better at that damn or day brine him oh osprey is better at it daniel brine actually i feel like is inherently up and here comes mark davis mark davis and here comes the turn anyways but the difference between will osprey and brine daniel sin doing it is will osprey has come out relatively unscathed 99.9% of the time daniel brine i feel like makes all of us have our guard up because of the injury because he quote unquote had to retire oh he's looking around for it mark davis is looking around too much ball he's lifting up the body of will osprey okay forget the turn i want him to carry him out princess style oh calis just yelled to mark take him home with you and then awkwardly grabbed and padded kyle fletcher's butt i mean i will say this i initially said that kyle fletcher very likely will suffer because of mark davis's injury i am so happy that i was wrong about that man because i didn't think he was ready for and you know what there has been a lot of time because that was a really bad i believe it was a ligamentary on mark davis and i also want to say something that dan has said before differing between AEW pay per views or special events and wwe and i didn't really think about it until dan said this recently and i've been kind of focusing on it and he's not wrong when you're watching an AEW pay per view it's match match match match not a lot of filler yeah yeah it's a lot of meat on the bone yeah where was with wwe you got strapped in commercial well but you got sponsorships that's right i just didn't drive but he's not there you know but oh we this is going to be the the women's wrong title no this is the championship champagne celebration oh i thought there was a match nope there are literally no that happened last week okay i thought they were returning no that happened on dynamite i really thought that this was getting a they were running that back yeah we're not saying that it's not going to happen or is this where we get the new version of Tony storm the new old version which yeah oh my god please be the technic color you yes i want that so badly as much as my second episode ever on this show had the phrase i saw rusev hit the ring and all i thought was i've never wanted rob erwin to be right more than i've ever wanted anyone else to be right i want rob erwin to be more correct now than then please share with the audience and anybody who may not know so what you're booking for that was timeless Tony storm her bit when she comes out everything turns black and white she said last week in an interview that she is retiring we do not believe that is the case nor does Tony con and has said this right we i believe this will be the next phase of getting her back to a different type of character but what i want is i if you remember what he tried to do back in the eighties turner was taking black and white movies and they were doing a computer coloration of things oh i want her to come out like that as we transition to where it's going i want to clarify when you first pitched this to me i was so mad that i didn't think of it because you were talking about having her come out as timeless Tony storm and then hitting the button to make the color appear like on the old tv stations she's a black eye it looks like yep yeah yeah but you can tell it's it's a lot of makeup though like they didn't have it but it's but it's legitimate yeah oh i thought it wasn't look too swollen yeah you can see the swelling and you can see the the pinkishness of the blood shine in her eye so either a it's legitimate or b they did a much better job than we're giving a credit for true or no they're doing they're they're did a great job on it that we are giving credit as real speaking of what from black and white to color i watched the Wizard of Oz of the first time yesterday i want you to say those words again please i watched the Wizard of Oz of the first time yesterday okay so you saw the Wizard of Oz after you saw it yes and the thing is i i had owned it the movie for about 15 years and i just never popped it in all right so now we're going to have the champagne toast you didn't break me i'm just trying to figure out what's going on here because as much as we were saying that you definitely get your bang for your buck and you were talking about the Adam Page match before i put time on my paper or a day and i made a van this is not a paper view segment and this is right after i was talking about how he debuts match match match yeah right how often do i've actually timed that you very well they rarely do like i remember one time when they announced we'll ask for a signing yeah they were you know uh is that a party or something coming out and and for the right we go the fuck yep and for the record somebody's going to get whoa and you miss the shot among the entire women's division in any company meanish air cala how you doing oh and it's spitting oh and there was an f there was an f u b oh man you know it's really bad fire truck now we're about to have it and oops first one wasn't given it oh that has a hurt worse than it did did bounced okay so there was a mild spear in evening gown attire onto two tables two folding tables the first one was not gimmicked so these ladies bounced and then went through the second table best unintentional comedy of the night so for those of you that are watching oh we have a wardrobe malfunction we're cutting away from well what i'm saying is you probably just saw the guy with the headset with with uh with Mariah base hand in his and you saw her squeeze that is actually a signal that she is giving to the referee that she's okay so she can still sell that she's been knocked out yeah oh the kiss remember how they yeah oh yeah i knew there was a kiss coming i just didn't realize i was gonna be this bad well suit but again this is a this is a dynamite segment because it's really bad when you can see her chewing on the capsule yeah i feel like nobody warned her what fake blood in a capsule actually tastes like and that's what she's really reacting wow this is a waste yeah that okay that was not dynamite level that was not collision level i shudder to call it rampage level that should have that's dark level i love when my shit gets stepped on uh he cursed i know uh i was going to say it was a youtube clip not even dark because that's not a thing anymore well rampages about to not be a thing anymore yeah but that's a different kind of thing because we've only got what maybe maybe two episodes left of rampage guys i thought it was going away in December i thought it was going away in December as well but there's also a part of me that wonders if rampage continues to get used in variations and we wind up with either max specific shows or rampage just as we know it going away rather than it ceasing to exist i can't draw well either jack perry tnt title on the line jack perry danie garcia i still i still don't i don't want to care about the belt what he did with it i just don't say only part i do like i i respected it multiple people have gotten unique belts from the tnt title all right don we have a micro brawler we have three items we have a pin we have a poster we have an autograph let's do the pin and poster let's do the piece all right the pin i may or may not have can either confirm nor deny it is it is the ecstasy of gold version of hangman out of page as fast may i sure i think i think you have a different version of this pin not the ecstasy of gold but the hangman okay excuse me yeah somebody was looking there i am also going to pass just because i'm not a pin guy yeah i will thank you um but i believe you have a variation on that but not particularly that one the other p uh poster poster and poster the poster makes me kind of sad oh no interesting because it's something that i miss good wrestling no good wrestling on a turner brought test at station it is death trying all sad and it's with the trio's titles by the way yeah why aren't you those it's okay but what do you mean what happened to those i know who has on it what's yeah again no room passed and it's also yeah i don't i don't feel good about passing but i'm going to okay it's also a poor use of space on a poster yeah it's there's too much negative space around them so this will go in the swag box as well yep and you know that makes me sad because i have a huge lucha bros way how long is Copeland going to be out it's a while he destroyed everything from the knee between the knee and the ankle i thought he was cleared he might be but it's been a while i mean he let me let's also put it in this context for as bad as his injury was being cleared it doesn't mean wrestling also being cleared means he might be able to work out that's true that felt very awkward for me on that Daniel Garcia promo and i feel like i like him less now but then again he's also been a guy i have said for a very long time wildly talented in the ring needs to learn to he needs a charisma injection or a mouthpiece i am not 100% sure new shirt ritt restore the feeling of his having his dance move fists in the air i don't believe it is the i think they're trying to overwrite the dancing with just the fists being up as a unique thing oh stop spoiling things no that's so comfortable oh yeah what you saw on the court on the screen yeah but i just saw the score no i don't know yeah i feel free oh you 24 album of three that sounds right wow that sounds right album was ranked number seven oh he's unranked yeah that's the sec for you not to mention alabama is overrated because they beat up a bad team says you're did jack perry stop by o' riley on the way in replaced that headlight because otherwise it's not street legal and he shouldn't be driving that bus it's new work they didn't have time also fair it's also the state where you're not allowed to pump your own gas and there's no left terms chuck handles he's got a paper mache hat now it's the goat mask he's been using since new Japan he's not centered oh i thought it was a new one a newer version of it no he's just added things to it oh you're just misunderstood so there's still three more matches that he's right he's a spare um yes okay i'm gonna hit okay grab something you know what i'm saying are you gonna grab something are you leaving leaving or are you just going to grab grab some come back oh okay fair enough okay that's what you mind yeah yeah i'm gonna try the portillo's okay their cheese sauce is wonderful okay big fan and their burgers are really good too i love their either chocolate cake shake it's like that prediabetic that would put me in a coma you don't want that what do we love you man i would i would like a sip of one to try it some time that i don't see this title moving although it should there the t the tn t title would be good for somebody like Daniel Garcia to kind of build him up a little bit yeah but plus jack is the last elite guy currently active they could just take it off and get him off to be for a little bit isn't okina technically part of the elite he's not wrestling either well he's not wrestling on this but he's active you know what i'd like to see them do i mean he's holding about yeah yeah i would like to see because we know that what are you trying to do bro okay no you hit the menu you hit the menu button oh and that changes it up there's not a touch screen oh okay uh we know Kenny Omega will be wrestling soon general yeah i would love to see them put him under like a mask like cover him up completely you mean Kenny yes and made him the black spider in not that bad okay but haven't where he's he's just like this mysterious character that's taking out the elite one by one i feel like that's hard to do uh i i see where you're coming from with that and i like the idea but he's such a public figure i feel like the internet would ruin it that's really never would happen that's so very true but if you're gonna do that have him come back as the midnight rider okay i just tell you i made the most happy accident in this in this room the other a few months ago i didn't think it was an accident i had questions that's why i was making the most i thought i was doing two two cans of they say w zero sugar and the second one ended up being there zero sugar cream soda that combination is delightful i'm just gonna say it and the first one i didn't think was a and w they were both a and i thought the first one was mug no i gave you the mug i thought you brought two mug in and we each have one that's why i was confused no i only i saw it an extra what i thought were to do a Debbie slap did it was only one this has been a root for your time that's right and the the mug zero is a fairly recent phenomenal in this town got you jaxon was he likes to snoop around underneath there it says that's when he was a kitten he would actually jump up inside he could get inside the couches and he forgets how big he is now he is a big boy oh there's a root beer zero of taste siphon and regular root beer no that's the impressive thing i have i have had three different versions of it three for three because it was the barks barks a and w barks you can only get here at a at a freestyle i haven't found them in the stores the prepackaged if you correct now i guess that mug is a fairly new thing i found it kruger and a and w's been around for a while okay this what the red boots are throwing me well that was the thing deniel garcia for the longest time on the independence was always known as the red death oh okay so the red plays into that history but this whole it's like we've already done this with mjf and we did it better jack perry is a great technical wrestler who is as interesting as watching paint drive but that depends on the paint i will say if you're gonna be at ringside and you're gonna have a sign i miss the people that would put the sign on front of the run that would just say throw him here i've never saw that but what i was going to say is the people in the front row that keep holding up signs should be doing it in front of the railings so they're not blocking people's beer there's a red death sign just that well remember he is from buffalo yeah so it is almost a home game okay what's in his hand probably jack's got anything in his hand right now i yeah i thought he had yeah i thought he had something in his right hand with the way he came up and then the water bottle appeared but that was too large to be it but there's no stipulations to this right this is just the title yeah yeah the closest you have to a stipulation is that daddy magic is on the call and you've also got Nigel at the desk too and that always brings me joy yes well he's been there all night yeah that's still that's the only downside to not hearing everything clearly is because Nigel international treasure yes i'm still not over how much of a waste of time and an overly long show that women's title thing was i almost feel like date if you're going to do that on a night light tonight do that in zero hour absolutely but to be perfectly honest press conference let that be part of the press conference sell it because you let the reporters take a glass of champagne quote unquote yeah kind of like new japan does every i was i vintage or it again no no there's a guy with a shirt says christian was my father yeah that yeah technically that is a nick wane shirt yeah it is on his shop well and now we're also keep yeah bad you know what it gets kept saving and doing something and he is on those that list i referred to as the most underutilized talents you did run into him on the concourse i did he was very kind very polite and he's a phenomenal wrestler who happens to be an absolute sweetheart and so is his wife yep and we both they were some of the like they were the most engaging and open people on that they were two of the first people we ran into on the cruise i believe they were the first two you're probably not wrong with it was on the deck after we had gotten our stuff into our cabin yep oh and we had come up to the pool deck because they were going to start doing some of the the matches mm-hmm and they were just hanging out yeah they were just hanging out talking to everybody and the funny part is is i don't know that we would have recognized because he was wearing a hat mm-hmm but i remember not thinking out loud but going that girl looks a lot like finale before and that's because it was and that's one of the things i thought she was taller the one of the yeah i would be too but that's one of the things i really liked about the cruise i i've heard that that cruise does not exist anymore but let me finish now about that cruise which i think separates it from some of the other themed cruises mm-hmm i've never seen a report from a themed cruise like that where people have talked about how just accessible the talent really was and i selectively but still on the average yeah on average absolutely i still continue it was impossible not to run into booker yeah well i still contend we were eating breakfast right next to dawn callus and we didn't i didn't realize it's like a month ago and that he was the guy in the tuxedo that was an MVP thing that we were like who's this guy in the tuxedo sitting back here with these two slubs i think that was time callus i don't remember him being on that boat but it could have been but i loved it just even with the photo ops it wasn't like there was a level of cattle hurting to it yes but not like i've seen in other places yeah well and i think part of that was the fact that that was the time where it was like hey if they're available and they want to take a quick selfie that's okay to ask but remember they have the right to say no but you will have the opportunity in this setting where you would get in line and there was the hurting aspect and where the culmination or the origin story of jack perry versus Alex Barnhill began and then jm versus me i don't know if he was against you at that point he didn't have a problem he was just telling you the rules but i still i still need to go on a non themed cruise to compare and contrast i have the exact same note i i need to see what that is like and i will i i hate saying it but like that first cruise the way they had it laid out the fact that it was so new and they didn't quite know what they were doing worked perfectly for me because i didn't oh the closest i had hardest part of the ring uh backdrop on the apron by jack perry to daniel garcia who is going to talk to daddy magic with the 1992 bell bimbo bow jacket checking in fat effron here we go but uh anyways but with the first cruise they they overlapped a lot of their scheduling so you had to make the call of did you want to do a or did you want to do b and what that was that was the table that was supposed to be next to the ramp ramp the unforgiving recycle bin with wrapping paper up poster to uh anyways but the thing is with that first cruise it let it it set it up that you had people that were deciding to go to one place and people who were going to another place and a lot of there was a number of those people that were complaining that they couldn't do both and it was like go on the next cruise but instead because six men cares so much about their people and wanting them to be happy and Jericho to an extent wanting the people on its cruise to be happy they made sure to set up the structure of the scheduling where there were less things happening but that they did not overlap so that people could go to quote everything which I actually think heard it on some level because you wound up with so much for lack of a better term overpopulation at certain events and it was it really was exhausting exactly and that's why I was saying like you could go to different wrestling parts like I was explaining to you how it was so much easier to get a good vantage point for the wrestling because people were going to a show or a stand-up routine or different things because it was sunlight and they were just burnt because they were on a cruise and we had gone to the Bahamas or whatever reason they wanted to be doing something indoors so it allowed the other people to be able to get good vantage points that's where I made friends with Brad Williams because we were able to sit basically in the front row for some matches with SCU and then you had other aspects where they did get very crowded because it was the last wrestling event and there was nothing competing with it or because it was when they were doing the sea of honor tournament and that was going to be on uh did they have a term for that R.O.A.D was on honor club honor club I drew a blank on honor club but yeah they did stuff that was a show so you had more people going there but because of different aspects overlapping you never had that moment where it got too overbearing the way it has from what I'm hearing on every cruise after it yeah which is getting ready to happen here soon I believe that's February yeah it's the what six one six on the beach yep hey I oh no they've done that with all of them I know I know yeah uh so I was on the I was on the first two and had a wonderful time on both even though I still feel guilty about creating a cacophony of snoring you don't have to we talked about this we talked it through was you'll start in the singing of Judas yes yes we did it first the first cruise was like a cruise that was the second cruise uh started the singing of Judas that was the first title change in the company's history as well was on that second cruise that was the tag titles and going from SCU to hangman and omega and then three weeks later the world shut I do too I I very much miss SCU but you know he's still in the company um score sky yeah he's he's still under contract but they got nothing for him right now that's you know what put him in the air business send a kid send a kid yeah uh no I I said that a few weeks ago where I was like I need my dude to be doing something do I need to put a sticker over my necklace now to turn that be into an s or do you just add an s so it's the hurt yes we got those like they had just put those out on the cruise when I bought the first two wasn't it they didn't have them out yet I literally walked in saw it in a bucket and they were like oh yeah MVP selling these and I want to say I grabbed them for you because I was I wasn't gonna buy them and then they were like you know both for 40 bucks and I was like this this is happening yeah that's right I said I was going to grab them for you but I didn't know and then I took the picture that you have and then we had to when we had to take one of them back and exchange it there was something wrong with one of them like the class didn't work yeah that's right the chain wouldn't and they had no issue just giving us another one which I thought was great hey customer service yep I mean it's not like they're not making the money and Tony con what MVP do is one man show please oh my god yes most valuable prisoner so good and that's where I made friends with chavo very very chavo has to be there absolutely I heard the insight interview with Christian Bleigh with chavo how he get a line on MVP show just people trying to take photos with him we were there oh we were there and the phrase from MVP we cannot say on air talk off air yeah we cannot say it on air but I laughed so hard chavo mentioned an interview so we were the we were the fourth row yeah so after that show we were out in no I was out in the hallway and you had very drunk very drunk jack swagger oh slow and moderately drunk chavo boo for the low blow every time every time he had a comic because swaggering him are are friendly and we're just going back and forth yes he kicked out give it time uh so you had the aspect every time and chavo was cold he was okay so the the big change from the first cruise to the second cruise and by us talking about the cruises instead of this match tells you how much jack berry sucks but yeah I said it but that's part but for those that have never been through this before this is not abnormal for when we do deconstruct yes we go off the beaten path because it gives us a chance to tell some of the stories yeah that we don't get to tell on the normal show because of time constraints so I have rumble stories but the biggest mistake that they made with the cruise in my opinion the first one took place over Halloween yep and they had theme nights and everything and that's when uh hurricane became one of my favorite people just because I could not stop laughing the man had the entire wardrobe not a replica had the entire wardrobe from coming to America to be prince hockey prince I came hurricane hurricane did he had the wardrobe to be prince I came and he he spent the entire night walking around and if he was trying to get through a doorway and somebody else was there he would just go oh and put his hand up like I came into the and I'm not gonna lie I had had a couple of drinks and I played the body by Jake and he was the only time he broke character but you had SEU entirely dressed like they were from pulp fiction oh wow and there was a whole bit of sky and Christopher Dales arguing over who got to be Sam Jackson and then to close the entire he's the one that had the hair um um but in that same scope for the last set of matches that was not for tv or anything they had uh impact because it was impact at the time versus real bar I want to say the elite at that time oh was it because I think it was just the elite but all of the elite were in mario themed costumes so Cody who was with the company and was the new japan was the new japan uh us champion came out full bowser and I cannot remember but I believe sharp shooter yeah I believe brandy came out as daisy okay because uh max wife and I apologize for getting her name ruby what are Matt Hardy no no Matt Hardy was with a different company at that you said Matt that was Matt Jackson oh okay his wife whoa oh tap tap tap tap tap tap new champion new champion new champion suck it Jack Perry we have a title change we have an actual title change on the paper view I had a moment I had to wait and he wanted clean yeah with a sharp shooter with a deep well that was the dragon slayer sharp shooter that he coined on uh brine danielson where he removes the actual sharp shooter old to pivot to hold with the lean back but anyways so you had all of that the the the young box were mario and Luigi omega was towed he's a bowser that was Cody that was Cody Cody Cody come on okay yeah um towed but they they did the whole thing and the result of the match I will never stop laughing at because everybody and I was like and you're winner everyone but semi calla head because semi calla head was doing the the heel bit and for the record another ohio pass for me because that man was absolutely awesome well documented on the show well documented on the show but he wanted going with the full heel and on team impact you had what was he going but I what was john morson going but johnny impact because he was their champion at the time yeah up next to kester ricochet uh you had brine cage who I will never get the image of him pushing a stroller out of my mind uh on a cruise ship no he's so big yeah he couldn't fit in the hallway uh but everybody else that was from impact were just normal wrestling I want us they did not adopt j-lethal for that one but there was a black bichismo um oh no it was it was priceless uh but team impact were not in costumes or whatever but calla hand was starting to do the heel thing of getting mad at his own teammates so he literally took I want to say 14 or so super kicks in a row one from everybody on the elite one from everybody on team impact and then everybody else stop piled on semi calla head Marty Marty was part of team elite too so it was a five on five oh who did marty dress as oh he came out as um as wario because villain yeah um um but it was it was so much fun uh and calla hand had actually gotten the win the night before in a deck fight but so it was squirrel or marty squirrel and sammy calla hand yeah that wound up in the pool and because of it don't call us was on the first one because he's the one that cheated to cost the marty oh ricochet kicking it old school a little bit a little bit okay he's got a little bit of the uh well not wearing black and gold was really he's wearing out of devil's colors I was thinking that he was just stealing Bailey's wardrobe but I feel like they need to get away from the R as the logo of out of this world as stupid that is never been a good phrase since 1962 but no but that for his reminds me of uh the man gravity forgot it's endless lives it is but I would still take that over out of this world um but there was just there was so much going on that last night and that was the only segment going oh that was also the uh the cruise that I made good friends with the brisco's by making cheeseburger Matt I really tell you he was on he was on a w an rand a slacks night I think yeah he was yeah he got his oh he had a handicap match earlier too on dynamite maybe it wasn't actually he got he got he got black man got fed to lash him and the other guy so I went to the rumble when it was a satin toenail so did I use there and uh we went to the hotel with a rat that had like a little like rope off there and we could like stand and uh as soon as she's going out so we were there and uh I think he was actually staying in that hotel it was the hilton I think yeah oh very out one of the two I know Sean used points and I think we were in the same one because we were walking distance to the do they read up yeah so um it was the day after the rumble and when we go there early me my ex we go there early to try to see we can see whoever comes out and at one point drew my guitar comes out and we're like Drew Drew can get a photo because we want photos we don't want autographs we just want to post you want photographic evidence yeah and he's like oh he was all running so effing late we're like no worries man like a safe light yeah oh okay real quick real quick well let's see that's one of those ones it's like when they realize you're not going to be a jerk about it yeah they are real men but the way he was talking and slowing a little bit you're like oh you're hungover yeah you're very hungover sending with um who was it also that seem kind of like that it was a shameless no easy shameless okay I'm sure I was just going off of who was most likely to be hungover they needed the uretham that bell but uh it was they hit for a minute it was just so funny because you could tell it was like oh Drew you went hard last night after the after your fight to do the um oh uh Nikki cross she she came out and we're like Nikki can we get a photo she's like I'm so sorry I'm ready super late like safe light she goes okay real quick yeah she came over that's also where I met the rocks mom I got to be auto she popped up she popped up as a mutual friend for me on multiple social medias but that's because of other people general rule we don't have a conversation we don't yeah I'm aware right but it replaces wrestle kingdom oh okay so because that's what I was going to ask being wrestle dynasty would that technically be your January pay-per-view a technically would because I did okay uh but wrestle dynasty is replacing wrestle kingdom they have revamped it because instead of it being new Japan featuring like wrestle kingdoms have it is a connected show that that's my way uh you know I figured it out it was just copy off card it is a joint show from AEW new Japan CMLL and ROH okay so they kept with the name wrestle and then just changed to dynasty and they have taken my favorite wrestling event of the year that I cannot attend and I am less interested and it's also on a Sunday it's not on a Thursday well it's always the fourth and fifth oh I thought it was always like the first Thursday no no no it was always it's always on January fourth and fifth he grabbed that he doesn't know how to text he might have I don't know because I'm in sleep mode at this point oh that was nasty oh okay all right so Jack Perry who won uh he we have a new champion oh really did you have your C01 clean oh wow dragon what'd you call it dragon slayer sharp shooter okay yeah he got it deep and oh really that's ricochet it's oh five yeah number two's no outside it let's do it it's a lane yeah never true yeah it's never something different I haven't tried I like lanes never trying before never heard before you ask they actually predate canes okay canes mimicked lanes I believe they're out of college station okay I'm sticking lanes yes they are raising canes started in Bethel Rouge and I know because this is the one where I would call it the spot fest like you were referring to the other one because tichesta really talented ricochet really good at making people look good bit of a struggle telling stories between both of these and especially when I'm pretty sure there's a communication barrier I still like the way MJ pronounce uh tichesta same one time yeah yeah that's not off air I know off air that's why I didn't say it because I see that every time I hear his name I see it on my screen I'm sorry we need to acknowledge major promo from Justin Roberts sees that they're setting up for a backdrop that is not part of the script because the table still covered and he grabs everything with an edge and just pulls it back right before so tichesta he can't speak English too well don't know I don't know if he speaks English at all okay but the question I was wondering with that one was whether or not don't call us speaks Japanese I would guarantee he does I don't think I could guarantee it but I feel confident in saying he does I feel he's done enough work internationally that he's at least conversational in Japanese especially since he had to be conversational negotiating for impact yeah with Japan although it does remind me of one of my favorite little factoids that uh Christian has won three companies world titles none of them were while he was with the company he won the ECW title as part of WWE he won the AEW not the AEW he won the TNA impact title as part of AEW and he won the WCW championship before it was the World Heavyweight championship as part of WWE as well they had it as WCW for a while before rebranding it as world anyway that's the title the world title I have actually came in a bag with that horrible version of the WCW logo on yeah but uh yeah so in that same scope when Booker and then came over they kept it as part of Sudo with the suit invasion angle as this is still the WCW titles he won the title before it's called Jericho no no no that's when it was the unified he only won that title the WCW so yes he won it well Jericho I think Jericho might have won the no he didn't win the WCW until it was the World Heavyweight and became the first unified that is correct at vengeance shout out we're sorry you might might have been like four when that happened no I'm exaggerating for effect all right now the don's back we saw create items to go right we have am I the only person that wants to cash to take care of that thing on his nose yeah three items micro brawler and an autograph micro brawler micro brawler he really would do this while he has food in his mouth wouldn't you I like this micro brawler a lot yeah this is a micro brawler that when I told Ricardo who this was it shocked him oh no oh no I wish I wish Doc was here right now hailing from Detroit Michigan day 12 six foot two two hundred and four pounds which I'd like to see the paperwork on both of those things in his suit it is the X caliber oh I feel Alex wants that oh that what I was thinking I was thinking he shot faster oh no when I told you that he was married to piper niven and you wouldn't google the pictures so you could see what he looked like out of his mask yes I will pass on mr niven oh pass there you go that's a that's a really well done brawler too well no no they all are but I was the other reason I was grabbing it for humor sake was the color motif on the mask was that's got the white more than the black for the black is there right there no black white and gold are the only colors on the Excalibur's masks fun fact has lost a match to Kevin Owen's son oh when he was about 14 days old it was an indie show he was still Kevin's team Excalibur was the heel cut a promo with a uh something that would not fly in certain companies about an infant steam comes out hits him with I think two package pile drivers goes into the crowd to get his new born son named Owen named Owen after Owen Hart and also where Kevin Owens is chosen from mm-hmm from his beautiful wife Karina has the ref start the match places his infants on gently on Excalibur's chest they count the three he gently takes Owen back holds him up lion king style and then returns him to his mother what started him in you and you actually might already have this one I don't know that I do hmm I mean we can verify that yeah I'm waiting for the end of this because I also do need to take a break I still have a couple I still have to take another packages just because I've been like yeah like the thunder rosa one I saw the video of the Harley Cameron was that not wonderful did you notice what she did with that mask though no I missed the end of it no no I'm talking about like in general boy she couldn't she couldn't see so she took out the visor part of his mask and the what the only thing I got from that was thunder rosa's face of not knowing what to do say be any of it what if he just does not compute does not compute just what happens if some other urban runs down under or low blows together she's starting to get over she's way old she's always been over maybe but lately what this I just I love where she was talking about like she's the one that started to hold Chelsea green thing well she started doing the very age on people's names and Chelsea was pissed when it wasn't well and now it's in Chelsea's music which I love Chelsea green who is also international treasure because Canadian yeah she is a naturalized citizen now sir she's originally Canadian she's still Canadian I'm just saying how did she just do a silky ship I don't care about the citizenship I'm saying you are where you come from but your citizenship is another thing I'm not saying you are not what you are as an as she's Canadian by origin allow me to put it in this context so for me I still consider myself at least partly Floridian I consider you partly Iowan yeah don't I consider you partly human that took a turn like I know I I heard him pause with the bottle we have Calis getting involved that's a great looking jacket it is it's very uh what's that scoring to say was that actually no that's what actually okay so when you had the black pool combat club and the Calis family and he got hit from behind and ran into the TV yeah that moment he actually got a real cut from banging his head on the stand and so he just had a sign this guy that said Don Calis colors his scar with crayon and there is an I'm a Don Calis guy in the front yeah which also happens to be with Lureka oh what's this with like I agree with you Alex faith is Nigerian yeah yeah but she is a citizen of America yeah she's a dual citizenship now but that's why I'm I'm not saying you can't be multiple things that's the underlying tone like Don Calis is Canadian and also a piece of urban by character yeah great mind for the sport oh excellent mind like honestly if you told me that Tony Khan was stepping away and earmarked Don Calis to run production and everything I think the product did get better yeah because the the thing is is I I hate people who are like a w doesn't have talent they just have flippy guys that's wrong they have tons of talent their stories need to get better their production has actually been much better tonight but it still has issues yeah got overhead cameras so it looks like bad YouTube videos yeah and I honestly I wish there was an easy fix because I want AEW to be a true competitor like the Monday Night Wars but I don't know that it will ever get there I think it would have Tony will give up the book do you think so do you think that that has to happen or do you think that there's other things that could get them there that has to happen okay so that is is that the only thing though no because honestly what it starts with the booking allow me to put it in this context I don't believe Tony Khan needs to give up the book what I think needs to happen is he needs to let go more and let his producers go from a to b like he says what he wants because it's his company I'm good with that but if you I'll put it in this context you can drive to my house from here it's 40 miles you're gonna get there one way or the other yeah but I'd much rather do it in something like a Mercedes than a fiat there's nothing wrong with a fiat but it's going to be a smoother ride and more enjoyable in something that is better constructed now they both make vehicles so it's still a to b now in that context you have the replacement booker who tells you what's happening Tony Khan is also telling you what's happening but I think he needs to step back let producers do more and focus on hiring good production people because the biggest issue I have always had with AEW is stuff like this okay I get you want to look at ricochet getting up on the top turnbuckle but why am I staring directly into your lighting rig and also it's enough to take an hour and a half so if you want this exact shock rotate to the left side of the post done that's all that's literally all you need to do there's the problem with this camera is also the fact that it's terrible the resolution oh no no that was good has yeah WWE does that series about rustlers and the meanings of their tattoos yeah has he done one oh ricochet I don't know because the one that's on his peck he's had that a long time right it reminds me of the cover of uh Stevie Wonder songs in the key of life I'll look okay and I'm just I wonder if that's maybe I'm not seeing it closely enough because it looks like there's a wave at the top of it maybe I think the whole thing is waves if I remember correctly I think that's the one he got in Japan which is why it looks kind of like the wave without the actual wave okay well there's a crest at the top of it yeah but it's just every time I see it it makes me think of something so the key a lot fantastic album yeah well Stevie Wonder yeah which many people say is his strongest album he never could hit but even he could see that AEW needs better I ain't low hanging fruits there for me to pick because I'm only five foot nothing you're not wrong but this is I mean this has been an entertaining match I think right now we're in hour four okay not counting zero hour this is this is one of those times where I feel like a producer needs to get involved but it's a great example ricochet just got absolutely annihilated for five straight minutes on that and he can just hop up to the top ropes with no ill effect I feel like there should have been like somebody to tell Rick Mr. Oshay to struggle a little bit you just got your head knocked off multiple times yeah you just took a full rotation German off of the ropes take a hint from the video games you have to have recovery exactly yeah I mean there's nothing wrong with him getting up to those top ropes but the fact that it nullifies every bit of that impressiveness the five minutes before okay ricochet and by the way ricochet if you're gonna do the motion or you're putting a clip in a gun you don't spin the barrel just saying I didn't take that as spinning the barrel I took that as cocking because he went like this on the side oh he went back I think he so it was popping right hammer see it looked like he was spinning the barrel see I think we saw it going two different directions okay because from that angle with his hand coming down I took it as the hammer going back you took it as the spinning of the chambers and he kicked out of that I missed what oh was that the to catch the version of storm zero basically kind of sort of do you think with the amount of like Canadian destroyers and stuff like that where they hop up immediately they need to work under something well and but and we've said this for years I remember a time where if you got DDT didn't get up for three days and you never got it outside yeah yeah but look at like don't do me now the something has got a lot better now I want to clarify like this is another one where I see oh nice okay I see it as a different scope than selling so let me clarify what I'm saying and I want to see if it's the same as what you're talking about because everybody on this card knows how to sell ricochet can sell ice to Eskimos to make somebody look good yeah what I think they need is not necessarily learning to sell as much as learning to tell the story of with the sale like it you could sell great yeah but I think where you're talking about is strategically timed return versus like for you it would be selling the continuation yeah for me I think they know how to sell it's more on the lines if they need to understand structure better this is where that production and producers come well in WWE has the same problem too and they do but you can tell with certain producers who know the negative space rule when it comes to wrestling the biggest one I've seen lately nice pal can arrow off of the ropes that's got to do it two three yeah but the ones that you you want to look at and I love doing this because it's an interesting thing for me I try to avoid spoilers as much as possible but what I want to know when I'm washing matches is who the producer was because one of the things that you'll see you were talking about WWE getting a lot better you know who's been a big part of that behind the scenes Bobby Roode yeah Bobby Roode never the strongest never the fastest good character never great character but he knows how to put the whole picture together so for him there's a lot of and I believe it was all this who mentioned it where he was talking about the crazy thing with Bobby is he is also teaching at the same time as producing and as you know you never stop learning yeah so what Bobby would take the time of of like okay here's the spot we're going to do this is why we're going to do it this is how it's going to fit into the story but what I need from you is when this happens listen for a cue whether the crowd is owing an eye whether they're doing this and this is how you respond whether it be the slow crawl or it's one where you hulk up for lack of a better term and Bobby Roode has been very instrumental on talking to his talent with those in mind yeah so what you'll see is immense growth with a lot of different talent that they've been using I believe he has been almost strictly the dedicated producer for LA night stuff and you notice LA night has even gotten better yeah the people around him have even gotten better whether it be just something like I'm going to call him umberto because I refuse to call him what they're calling him now umberto who is a younger very good oftentimes flippy talent but you'll see him take something more technical and more of that growth into it yeah so the big one on that one if you look at I want to say it was this past Smackdown or it was the Smackdown before when they have the face off with LA night and he is the one that hits night in the ring instead of just diving into it he had a moment where he paused and would jaw and give the crowd time to react versus jumping into it yeah because you could see him go from okay this is the beatdown moment so I got to hit him and go but you see him pause was that a shirt was Jericho walking in from they had somebody looked an awful lot like Chris Jericho walking in so if you watch that there's that moment of letting the crowd understand and breathe which is something that Triple H has harping on but what is going so is wearing a mask of himself no is that George Floyd no no there was gold teeth that was him it was because it was the same grill but that was his little sting dedication I guess maybe yeah because he's on the side of his trunks too who is it's himself is that mask yeah yeah it's the same truck yeah yeah whoa that's some big pie roll nothing it's not deserved sort of earned it yeah all right who wins I hate my answer I just say well Ashley cuz he's debuting basically exactly that's why I hate my answer just pays off the same one you that's on drop yeah yeah it's his big man he had the handicap yeah yeah last week one called yeah she's burger yeah well booze was cry well we were talking about that while you're gone oh yeah that's death Ricardo you can stop googling you could just look at his trunks it's very obvious from there yeah and I'm a back of his jacket yeah who's that armistice it does a song that you know it's just at ringside there swerp some uh swerp does his own song but the guy that does it with him I think he's out of Houston yeah but I don't remember the names so you have another match after this one the title match yep well about Jericho was that tonight that was not that's not on yeah that's already happened oh it's Bobby Lashley he break okay if you only know once would be during Bobby Lashley or Mercedes uh I'm gonna pee during Bobby and poop during her say he's gonna take longer I signed my uh some prior last year I did he was over this kids I just I just said hi to him real quick Lashley doing the black and gold as well well this is me at WWE at the time or it's interesting that he's still using all mighty I didn't think he'd keep that bit hey it was not trademark you take it with you right yeah but Triple H is also a little bit more lenient on those than Vince ever once yeah don't they just refile the trademark for edge yeah well because Copeland is not going to why if I'm Copeland I don't use it in this company and I've established my real name yeah I've got a ton of merch sells like hotcakes so they're in our superstar yeah which they didn't refile so it's just like Naomi would you stay turned into your Naomi you know it's whatever she's comfortable with plus she was Naomi in WWE I know that's so yeah but you know do you go I'm backed by I'm beginning to use my real name now you know you can just recycle your merch yeah okay it's water there's a there's a there's a brita in the fridge so if you want to cold because the water thing in the fridge doesn't work okay now you write this house right you have a body okay that I wouldn't I guess WWE we never built him from Dallas no he was always from Colorado yeah yeah I don't know he's living here now I know he was I guess he does because that's where they built him from yeah yeah I know his his grandmother lived here one point because Charlotte knew her Elizabeth first go oh he's he yeah I like the chunks though they look cool yeah got the got the golden camouflage motif going on yeah no the trucks are good the problem is that for me body lashley has never been special beyond his appearance being jacket like it to put it in this context how many members of the hurt syndicate are there four three four three three three Bobby lashley is so far solidly the third best wrestler in that group he's just the biggest that's the gist but we're really gonna do this to swear since he's been with MVP though he has gotten better now to clarify that's I don't even know that he has gotten better as much as Bobby can't talk a lick and again I caught myself on that one yeah he's not a great professional wrestler if you talk about like amateur ability and shoot Bobby lashley is the exact kind of modern version that needs somebody to come along that does for him and it should be MVP but they're busy working a more slick deal here but at some point somebody needs to do for Bobby what Hayman did for Kurt Angle now for those of you that don't remember Kurt Angle was running the gamut as a joke for a long time in wwe at one point because he was willing to make fun of himself he knew he was a phenomenal exactly the ukulele yeah and all those things but when they didn't know what to do with him was when they had wwcw and Hayman went you're a gold medalist you could literally have a real fight in wrestling form we need to make you a shoot pit fighter and just lean into that you don't need to change your bit you just have to go out and absolutely annihilate people more aggressive exactly and Bobby lashley has those same skill sets I mean he's not an Olympic gold medalist but he's a multi-time army champion and that's some high praise did you just roll into your water or did you knock it over and lay in it yes he was actually a champion in Belator but that's what I'm saying he has those legitimate skills to me good way to put it to me he's never been interesting in professional wrestling because he is a legit fighter but when you get to wrestling and you're trying to make him look slick or smooth it looks clunky he is Lenny to MVP being George if this was of mice and men he's just a big group if you were doing this correctly you'd either find a young guy to put with the hurts and to get like let's let's find us he booked a different timeline swerve is a star swerve can talk swerve can entertain and swerve can wrestle he can go technical he can go high flying he can get into a bit of a brawl as we saw at the Adam Bay stuff yeah Bobby Lashley can't do any of that he can throw people around he should be your muscle in a group behind a better talent now if you're talking about the hurts syndicate right now yes Shelton Benjamin is a little bit older but you know what he is one of the best wrestlers to ever live true so Shelton's problem was he struggled with talking but he could do all the other things like swerve does yeah so if you want to put it together because we were talking earlier about a guy like Jay White who benefited from New Japan Shelton was already good he found other gears going to Japan and being part of Suzuki Goon with the murder grandpa Minoru Suzuki yeah so he figured out how to do more and his best work in my opinion was while he was in Suzuki Goon with Japan even if he was stuck in tag team matches or things like that because he realized he could get a little bit more snug with the stuff that while he was the gold standard may have looked a bit more comical yeah now that's why I say in this variation of the hurts syndicate MVP is the brains and it's not even close he could do everything as well but he's gotten to the point where he can still go he could still wrestle he could still grapple but he's not going to put on a showcase match with all due respect to MVP he's not going to be able to do that he's just passed that point okay so so you have MVP as the brains and the mouth that's the one thing he could still absolutely do any given time Shelton Benjamin can still wrestle anyway you want but doesn't talk Bobby Lashley is a bruiser that is the end of his list right now serve as the guy that can do all of those things or they need a fourth member to be a true main event guy with MVP as your mouthpiece Bobby Lashley and Shelton as your tandem backup so who currently on the roster other than Swarth would you want to put with them that's a great question and honestly I could see a situation where you use somebody like Ricochet but Ricochet can't talk either so he'd benefit from MVP but he's the younger hotter talent for me I think I would I don't know if I could do it in the company I have one go for it it's going to be a project okay Anthony I go go I see where you're at I actually had a fantasy booking with him in regal year two years ago three years ago where I was talking about a before blackpool combat club was a thing yeah I was talking about having regal do an entire like euro stable during the pandemic with Anthony and go go as his prized pupil to teach him those different aspects the problem with the go-go is he is Bobby Lashley he is Bobby Lashley for striking whereas Bobby Lashley is wrestling so I like where your heads at with that one because he's a good looking kid he can talk a little bit because he's been trained for press conferences and whatnot yeah but he is a massive massive project so what about actually do you want me to give you a different one that might surprise you I go ahead I think of someone else but go ahead oh no I I think I know who you're going to go with so I'll say mine and then do you want me to try and guess yours go party okay the first one I'm talking about uh-huh Mark when a future split up private party Mark when can talk a little bit he's never been the mouthpiece because they always has been but Mark when can wrestle yeah any way you want he's got a good look he's got good size he's not too dissimilar to sort of Strickland but in a thicker package okay so he's a bigger-bodied wrestler now the one I think you're going to go with it's in that same vein would be Bowens but Bowens does check those boxes as well because if you want to tell that story you have MVP walk up to Bowens and be like look at you your big strong athletic can go for hours in the ring you could beat anybody with the right tutelage but you are stuck in a comedy act with a guy who says he's better than you and does not take you seriously that's how you tell the story of getting Bowens into something more serious because Castor like I said before he can talk but he can't wrestle every style the way that Bowens can so who are you thinking real rush no the problem with Leo rushes he's an head case and he only knows how to do flippy do let's hit you more wrong let's have to this match okay because I'm probably going to go after but yeah in that same vein I'm I'm thinking of somebody who is outside of the scope who can become a world champion now yes Bobby has been a world champion I it worked it made sense in the hurt business I have no issue and that's a perfect example Bobby was slow getting to his spot he had to literally break to jump over to be where he was supposed to be for Swerve now is there an aspect where Swerve should have probably been watching for something watch how he has to move yeah it's the point there what he should have been was one more step from being sideways to like he's sitting on the desk so all he has to do is lift his head to the spot he was out of place now obviously that is nitpicking but at a level where somebody should be a world champion and let's be honest I think we all think lashly wins this are we there's that true I think lashly wins I don't know that I don't know that kid the house call house call yeah that's one of the most I think the way my favorite person to take that is uh oh no Osprey but like like we said before Osprey can sell ice to Eskimos yeah there's no problem there now we all think lashly wins this but what we're doing in that same scope and let's make sure there's a kick out yeah what we're telling in that story is that lashly is now above your not last champion but the person who was very recently your champion so you're telling me by that booking that lashly is world champion level and I don't buy it now like Rob was talking about with the hurt business and currently with MVP MVP makes lashly more credible in almost every way obviously you can't change him being a big body performer who can throw people around but MVP does legitimize a lot because you believe MVP as having the interest as a manager you believe in MVP in making people better because it makes him money oh but that's what Bobby lashly does he's a big dude who can throw people around let me ask you this and has the worst spear in the history of wrestling and yes I'm even including the Rizzler who's the Rizzler because I'm a bad kid at the beginning no the Rizzler was the kid that ringed the bell they're the same spirit the spear came from the sun they're the same people okay but that's the concept on a manager's point would you put MVP up there with Paul him in no no that's that's an echelon on to itself Heyman is closer to he and then he is to anybody else but for right now because it is such a thin field if you remove and if you remove Heyman as a manager remove him from the picture MVP is at the top of what's left or near the top of what's left but Heyman is such a creature unto himself in a management advocate wise man category it's entirely different ball games there's the spear and let's do a flippy-doo because reasons and now to what used to be called the hurt lock still is is it yeah they're still calling it the hurt lock there it is you have to just set it yeah because here's the other problem I have with this not only were we telling Lashley as beating a recent world champion we're talking about him making that man unconscious oh when did J.R.

come out probably before this match yeah well Bobby Lashley is one of his two is one of Jim Rawls he'll probably do the main event as well yeah like I wish there was another person in there but there it's just gonna be Lashley no because it's like there is no way another person in wrestling will have that physique or that size in that scope with the ability to do what he does from a wrestling standpoint but it's not interesting does Nana bring Wardlow into his employ to help combat this because I can't think of anybody else I that you would put because you've got cages in the Don Callis family uh so you know he's out I to go back to a point earlier I would even though I really think there needs to be a change in their managerial position there I would put Anthony and Gogo with somebody like the premier athletes yeah but Mark Sterling is not doing he's not doing that stable any good because I don't see him improving especially Mike skills of people like Josh Woods yeah I honestly forgot about Mark Sterling because I watch spring of honor and he comes out at least twice with the premier athletes and they lose every time but they've got the hottest merch on real honor I need to get an Athena miniature now uh support local wrestlers now I I respect the concept of what you're going with with Wardlow but I don't know if we ever see him again in this company just because there's a lot of wrestlers we haven't seen in a while I know that there is that aspect but the thing is with the way Wardlow looks the fact that he's proven that he can talk a little bit and the fact that he can do all of the things in the ring you want because I was very impressed with his ability to work technical with MJF to go power for power with uh landsarger and his ability to fly around the ring a little bit when he had his TNT run all right we've got two items a sticker and an autograph let's do one item when an autograph all right item one or item two two item two is the double threat there will be rules to this because item two is the mystery micro roller mini I am instituting a rule with this if you claim it you cannot trade it but you cannot open it until you claim it interesting Ricardo can I feel it no can I feel it uh I will tell you who is in this line okay you have a one in 40 chance of Kenny Omega okay you have a one in 20 chance of getting one of the young bucks I like that they give you the odds you have a one in 100 chance of a chase variant of one of the young bucks where they were all dressed in white the standard all in black you have a one in ten of Anthony Bowens, Billy Gunn or Max Caster you have a one in 20 of Swarth Strickland you have a one in 20 of Saraya you have a one one in ten of either of FTR and there is a gold version metallic gold Kenny Omega only one was made how many items do we have left up to this we have one item one sticker in the sure all right dammit okay I was I was going to say is it unfair for me to say I will 100% take it if it falls to me so you will now open the mystery package here comes it's a misprint it's actually mariah it's it's on calisney for all I would throw the trash it's marco stunt actual size yeah come on only one made Kenny Omega why do I have this distinct feeling that they are making a new world championship and that's why we're doing the briefcase I think that was the intent for the beginning because he had said something about that enough here goes one two it is Saraya Saraya all right all right her boobs are the are the are the England flag oh okay so it's the all-in variant yeah yeah cuz that's what we have England it says on the back yeah great England all right cool that's a good one yeah you have three items left on said the autograph the autograph do you think that moxley should have stopped doing the audience entrance once they went heal no because I think it actually enhances his heel them because he's not conforming to the rest of what AEW does but what I'm saying is as I feel like there should have been something in that scope but not him coming through the crowd the autograph is a member of a tag team current tag team or past the current tag team okay currently in turmoil it is don tape mark oh well they're in turmoil there's infighting between them and Leo Russian action and I'm gonna pass on this one don't pass Alex what's the ins is it just the name oh I thought there was an inscription oh easy pass all right this will go into the sky box I think there's another one of him in like box or any I thought I thought this was subtly brilliant though doing the same orange Cassidy bit but reversing the color yeah because he's wearing the dark he's wearing the black denim now because he is dark Cassidy yeah bring back at my fire hands how dear okay be safe till the faith we said hello she seems to have made our right now done my stuff back down you got no no this is my oh that's why the double checking to see was under there okay so we still have Moxley in a sweater like to think Moxley for dressing up for the show yeah wait does he still have his keys on yeah I think he does okay we'll put it up there's a money in the bank contract in there no it's an IOU from our truth so is that why she's wearing the key is that the key to unlock the briefcase or what's the briefcase right but that's not a handcuff key that she's wearing around her neck so you're trying to use logic in 80 yeah we've had this almost exact same discussion during the pandemic and it was something else you could think again I got you yeah nice meeting you nice meeting person all right finally just got a long trip home it's good time oh yeah well I think you're the same distance last time I in the east thanks nice nice good night we got two different people with AEW world championship belts in the crowd and they're they're they're giving that belt more airtime than John Moxley is and for the record if you bring a belt to a show you should have to defend it and if you're a child they said pick on some of your own size I'm taking you out I always see a child like running around the mall or whatever you just like I'm gonna super kick you just just to calm me down oh no I I just wait and try and like Jedi stuff with my well I guess it's more stiff if you're trying to push stuff that they trip on wait what is that on his leg it's a it's a ground crown and a cut of condesimble oh what we thought was the keys is something on the other leg yeah oh it's a side okay respect all of us knowing what a side is oh oh be the end be the end let's go oh let's do it let's give him one more and then paid let's do three three oh okay nope tofu hey either the front row what and orange cast it was also the front row there's always a good cast it in the front row but what was it it was a if you're not the real orange cast it you're only allowed to climb being tangerine cast it or something like that tangerine cast it hey don't you con just I was orange cast it for I don't mean one year I did two years ago hey he's done it multiple years oh we have an issue the table's giving way early I also think he should be a rule that have your table breaks you don't get to put it back together how many how many minutes until John starts bleeding probably before they get back in the ring I think I don't know he's a good cast he's a pro though yeah but because you can see he's hitting him with the bat side yeah which is oh yeah not yet he's gonna give it a minute well you couldn't get to a place where he can get the blade in yeah that's what the key's really for yeah oh no that would be a heck of a way to do it you act like marina's like protecting him and he grabs the key and blades with it well I was thinking of those keys where you have like the pocket knife in it yeah I mean that'd be a smart way to do it yeah yeah moxie looking like he just finished mowing the lawn I gotta take you picture with him a Renee at the last time they were in Arlington for an actual EW show they are adorable met the ring of honor once people were afraid to walk up to woman well it's because he's so believably up jerk yeah well he's believably grumpy that's a great way to put it I'm like hey guys excuse me I'm sorry to bother you well he's he's also got that reputation even among some people in the in the business because he's very private now I want to say that to borrow a phrase that I have used on multiplications he does not suffer fools well so if you cross a line he has no problem being that guy that guy yeah did you have the bell ring on this yet yeah okay yeah because they were after the first after the first orange punch it did okay I didn't know if they had actually rung the bell or if it had just been oh he just got his bell rung well there's that I didn't know if the bell had rung or if that was just because they jumped it there wasn't enough time because we've obviously had no counting out at this point come on a W time I'm gonna count out oh I don't anticipate it to end on a count out but at the same time it's one of those words if you and it's I hate that they do this now but I understand why the announcers do oh there it is oh it's blood first oh orange blood first is this kind of match right there's a chunk that came off his forehead I don't think he knows how to blade is this the kind of match where if I bleed first it's over no that's the first blood match first time we ever heard him talk I laughed okay that is I would I would put solid money on that is still the funniest thing I've seen in wrestling in like 20 years you're and that includes our journey what was so the first time the orange Cassidy talked was when best friends and everything was still together this was was it during the pandemic because they were at dailies or were they just at dailies um I don't remember but it was on a countdown show like it was countdown to double or nothing yes it was the because it was the casino gauntlet or casino battle royale the one that Brian Cage showed up as the Joker in one mm-hmm but they're in the backstage and remember the old rumble set up where they would have the backdrop of whoever they were talking to and they were like mr. perfect why do you think you're gonna win the rumble and each of them cuts a quick promo yeah yeah they were doing something like that and I kind of miss them doing that so that we get to know these people a little better and it's orange Cassidy just standing there with his hands this box is looking down and then they they pan out a little bit and you realize best friends are like just sitting there waiting for him and he goes so so was this the match where if I believe first I lose no I thought it was a it was a ladder match it was okay but they went through all these different things where it's like okay so if I escape the cage I win there's no cage orange okay okay I'm not gonna do well with this because they finally got one the right and like so you're gonna have to climb the ladder and oh this will not go well he just walks it right it was the the exact words where I'm not gonna do well at this and the funny thing is because when his music hits everybody in the match and there was like a solid seven or eight people already in the match and it was a poker chip yeah over the ring and he comes out just walking and he looks around and he looks to his left everybody's laid out moxley now biting him he casually grabs a ladder lays it on the ground stands on the flat ladder and yeah but the nothing will ever top that promo before everything started because he was so look the funny thing is he does ridiculous things we acknowledge he does ridiculous things and we know this is predetermined so settle down because he can he can literally wrestle any way you want except for a power game but at that same time it was just one of those where he was so believable oh my he's a little too oh yeah that was a little snug yeah um but what you had with that aspect was the fact that it was just one of those where you were like even with our truth no matter how ridiculous it is there's that little bit of believability but you're already laughing because you know it's going to be silly with Cassidy it was early enough with him on that one that you were like no but it was one of those where it was like is he just playing this off the cuff or did he write this down because it was so natural and so smooth I couldn't tell now I want to say I was the first one that showed you the video of orange Cassidy was on YouTube we had different highlights from him it was one of the funniest things I've ever seen into this day still makes me laugh even though I've watched a billion times I was about to lose our second that was part of it okay that's a loser second that's terrible you mean dose say good no technically that's also fair but not else I've been doing that's in California yeah that it is that's right but the other one I was I was laughing at was we were talking about the UFC model and everything they had a fight night today because they do it on pretty much every Saturday those fights were done at 10 a.m. oh they brought in the cow China okay I was gonna say and I have never heard of them fighting there I would but it caught me off guard because I was like oh wow that's a really great main event oh it's over why isn't oh it's China okay okay I'm gonna roll with you Marie she's you're rubbing the blood off of her hands and into the leather she's just rooting those pants she's got a budget oh that's why they're leather right Ricardo you owe me a laugh that was funny no but here's here's my other problem I have in the AEW scope and it's stupid it's tiny but in situations like with Moxley why the crown with the cutter come why the sigh on the left leg I want to know things like that tell me why that fits your character because John Moxley but at that same time I find that more lazy than I do intriguing because oh maybe that's maybe that's a story to come well but what I was going to say is we've been telling this story the whole time that they are essentially grassroots mercenaries doing what they want why is there gold I mean thank you like a tweaker although I will say of all the people that I think could beat me up the fastest in real life Moxley's on that list for this company I feel and as much as I talk smack before lashley can beat the hell out of it you know what I just thought of if they could be joined hurt syndicate yeah but I mean it wouldn't make sense we also wouldn't but it might keep Lee depends on which company you consider him with at this point yeah that's true the thing with Keath Lee we do miss Keath Lee immensely yes we met him he was a nice dude and uh grand prairie yeah at the uh it was a thing with well you know he's a local guy yeah I know him and me I live here yeah um well I believe they had moved to Orlando at one point she had for sure yeah I know she had yeah but um it was funny because we know me I'd like to play volleyball and we were at the place where they were doing the show and we saw a volleyball being like hit around and we found like a little slit so if you see back there and we we might actually picked in and showed up just back to display like hey I knew it I told you it was really funny just now orange Cassie was outside the ring and he basically just looked at the referee and was like just back up I'm okay I'm gonna get the ring now well it is Bryce Ramsburg so he's one of my favorite referee he is mine as well I mean I like Aubrey but as I have heard other people complain about there are times where she becomes destructive I don't have an issue with her inner mannerisms and her makeup but the counterpoint to that is I think sometimes that's good yes holy god did he just draw blood with the scrapes or is that oh my he did good lord and I think he knows it and he likes it that's John Moxley it is Moxley and it's I know it's none of my business in any way shape or form but having seen beyond the mat I wonder the counterpoint to mix kids when Moxley's daughter is old enough to realize how insane her dad is in the ring I like and it's one of those words like I know for her it's just going to be dad and that's what he does but I find it interesting from a psychology background how that might go oh right that was a straight forearm shiver in the ribs oh oh they go Moxley getting a little chain technical in there see but I'm also the same person who every time Moxley wrestles I see that very clean Katakana on his left forearm and I want to know what the translation is I'm sure it's online somewhere did we finish the crate well folks no we have two we have an item and a and a decal left I can say we will respectfully speak for Don okay we're going to do the decal first because I think I know how this is going to go and I'm just I'm just going straight to it because it is more say these no nay trash trash it's not it's not the item less trash I don't know what to say about the item actually could you show me that decal I just want to see out of curiosity it's very 80s saved by the bell when you wake up in the morning it'll want a runetitle division so wow the item is a thing I feel like I paused too long before saying that because I thought of it right away it was debating on pulling the trigger oh it's a quality item it's a what it's a quality item okay but it's not necessarily an item that I would see in high demand smart mark sterling business card I see why they did what they did but it's still a little weird oh very clean on that okay so you see why they did what they did but okay what you got it is a bifold wallet okay didn't it a wallet that is young bucks branded that actually looks like quality wallet too that's what I'm saying that is a genuinely quality I give what we're doing because it's in the gold and they were doing the whole succession bit and you put bucks in it yep Ricardo would like it that's a thousand percent Ricardo the moment you said I need a wallet and I looked over and I was like yeah but it's probably not oh that's a good wallet like I this is going to sound a little weird especially for an audio only I kind of want to feel the wallet I want to see how it feels like it I mean it's the logo is actually its own like a package it's like a stich on yeah but it's stitched on yeah really no I got you I only got one eye but I can use it but yeah no that's a legit wallet it's a quality piece of equipment because here's my bifold wallet I don't want to make a big fan of the bifold I prefer a trifold and I know we've had that conversation but like it I'm gonna sound douchey for a second I'm comparing it right now to my coach wallet and it's not far off like even the look at even the layout style is the same it's a little bit larger which I actually like okay moxley wobbly I know that's the fifth orange punch of this match oh I wonder what draft king set the over under at are we allowed to do draft games here in Texas yes depends on your it depends on what you're talking about with draft kings you are not allowed to use the draft king sportsbook but you may use their fantasy salary game you may use their pick six and in fact I think you can actually use their horse racing in Texas each rank I mean we do have the race track right but what I'm saying is what's legal from a standpoint because in technicality there is even casinos in Texas they're just boats on the south side so technically they're part of Texas but they go out far enough to be legal gambling yeah so really you could make the argument about anything draft kings does it's just what's here comes the rest of the bcc Claudia is just getting back from a pump and there is pack but I do not see we were yuda yet well cricket wireless wallet that I got when I made come to Kingston they were good to me for a year and a half so what's but could this be could this be a yuda turn I was thinking that exact same thing but I didn't want to say it out loud just in case we're speculating I don't know I get you on that one now you know what I think so much Josh was up nope here's Kyle here comes the conglomeration and the stone pitbull running in so much enjoyed watching ishi follow Chris Jericho that was so funny that was funny is enjoyed that greatly oh yeah because here's how Wheeler has to be the last one to show up and it's the deciding hey there's oh no wrong guy here we go my least favorite spot in all of wrestling as a car and I like him I think she is a Kevin guy oh that she's right wait oh yeah he's saying to do it oh we're returning well at night and we'll see you're on the British affair hey Bobby Lashley that's how you do that orange Cassidy now has the briefcase okay is he NXT semi-zane or is he bloodline semi-zane let's go to depend on Remsburg well remember Sammy would refuse to do it when it we use up against pack there it is one nope two three oh wow wow that's a great shot right there 2.9999998 repeating bar repeating bar I feel like they're going to need the repeating bar after this that that crowd prompt just that we're about to meet because a pump on my Facebook over today when sent to know and Brian gave us it was the last two of them when they should chamber oh yeah everybody thought everybody was well there was the rumble too oh wait a minute breath bomb breath bomb coming breath bomb coming is it oh we have a hooded figure it is Wheeler you up and here comes death rider oh and there it is boxley retains to the surprise of no one oh we and you know wearing a ring of honor hoodie probably the only black one they had there was I'm just saying I'm out it's a lot of you know it's a great breath respectfully Ricardo I want somebody to surprise me Dale no no that's what I'm saying oh I don't know blue EC3 you want to be surprised that is okay let me run so you can see to eat how dare you no here's the thing I want something or someone that actually surprises me but makes sense it's too close to time it's 10.50 yeah and he's just going to take the briefcase and go I don't know that that briefcase is big enough to fit the title I'm just saying you can't do anything and I think it's hard yeah it's doctor rules see see how I kept it clean I see what you did there yeah what is we are there have a fire are they gonna set okay wait are they gonna set Cassidy on fire or the title on fire oh no wait oh no that's cleaning fluid oh dear they're gonna make them drink it they're gonna make them what the why oh so they're telling it like it burns yeah because that's okay I thought they're gonna try and make them drink drink drink clear it's a good lord and I'm not gonna make the joke they popped into my head off air off air off air oh page that's surprising oh yeah that that was a little solid tear shots in a face for you to into face in the face I already did that earlier did you do it because I'm not here probably not okay try to do that only once pay for yeah but don't don't our show we repeat stuff all the time yeah but yeah leaves us plants listen listen to me someone else is coming something something something else something is happening oh Adam Page is the hired gun Adam Page is the hired gun let's do we have a cash in the contract right now rice get in the damn ring Christian does the page child support yes well to technically he's married to the only woman that he has younger kids with there's no child support on a 19 year old Rick Nick Wayne or is this the face to the first shot he just saw I'll give you the first shot yeah yeah yeah but he's taken a long time this is taking too long but we have a failed cash in returning kill switch is now luchasaurus these kids gonna be so long before he's cleared do it do it come on Christian it's tomorrow East Coast time get this oh Jay white on to no oh that was slick that oh you should have held on to it well no he can't do it because it's Christian's name on the piece of paper yeah remember Otis dropped the notice caught the briefcase wrong company but still yeah all right now we got but that was also without a clear victor before I was juice are we just gonna throw people into this what are we doing who is the biggest bullet club name that might be a free agent wwe hasn't yet taken up what a crap ending or with juice do you bring David Finley because they were tag teaming for a long time well and remember Finley I believe is the one that attacked you some kick them out I like what Finley was oh no he is kind of working on the other company oh is he uh well there was rumblings they signed his younger brother but he was part of it this is a bit of a mishmash ending for me well I feel like where there is a story to be told but what is it yeah or is Jay white now by himself hunting moxley or is Jay white balancing the scale for page hmm there's guys be something else thanks new mick okay we're going we're coming out of the outside who hits them with a car or who blows up I would love it today I would love to do some old Joe oh it started that was a car crash Tony yeah thank you Nigel for correcting him they're just going to find it find keys hey what do you know this first what I grabbed happens to be the SUV right here with Florida plates yeah well a lot of Florida rental you wind up in places Jersey City yeah I really hope it's not derby give me somebody it's gotta be because if you would spray paint yeah whoa there was an F bomb there um did he have a real accident because he looks fun yeah he looks a little bit woozy and he's bleeding that's real glad because here's what's gonna be a problem he's gonna jump off he's gonna tear his Achilles and then we're stuck at zero again yeah so we need a legitimate car crash that was a thing yeah I guess and go to figure we had everybody in a main event bleed except john moxley that's the part he just said he was gonna wear the rest yeah that is it for AEW full gear 2024 we will keep you posted on the next one of these we do I can guarantee you it won't be a four-hour pay-per-view because we've got to got a TNA and WWE at least twice because there's also deadline coming up oh my god so we'll keep you posted thank you for being a part of our patreon we will be back live the Thursday after Thanksgiving but we'll keep up with us on social media we post some stuff as well so until next time for Alex for Ricardo for Don for the Empire I'm Rob good night everybody