Just Wondering...with Norm Hitzges

Two Big Swings and a Lot to Prove | Just Wondering with Norm Hitzges

January 23, 2026 21:34

Norm Hitzges examines two major moves by Dallas Fort Worth teams: the Cowboys hiring defensive coordinator Christian Parker from Philadelphia, a 34-year-old who learned under Vic Fangio, and the Rangers acquiring starting pitcher Mackenzie Gore from Washington in a five-player trade. Hitzges evaluates Parker's scheme fit with existing Cowboys defensive talent and Gore's inconsistent performance history, weighing both moves' long-term potential for the franchises.

About this episode

Key takeaways

  • Christian Parker, 34, comes from the Eagles after five years under Vic Fangio in Denver, where he developed defensive backs including Patrick Sertain
  • Parker's three-four defensive scheme fits the Cowboys' existing defensive linemen: Oso Odiquizua, Quentin Williams, and Kenny Clark, though Clark's contract needs restructuring
  • The Cowboys need to add linebackers and defensive backs to complete the three-four defense, with linebacker Sonny Styles and safety Caleb Downs potential draft targets
  • Mackenzie Gore, 26, is an All-Star pitcher who struggled in the second half of last season and has shown inconsistency over three consecutive years
  • The Rangers gave up five prospects including third-ranked Gavin Fine, eighth-ranked Devon Fitzgerald, and thirteenth-ranked Alejandro Rosario, dropping their farm system to bottom two or three in the league

Chapters

  1. 0:00Two major moves in Dallas sports
  2. 1:28The Cowboys hire Christian Parker
  3. 2:19Why Vic Fangio’s influence matters
  4. 2:55The Fangio defensive blueprint explained
  5. 3:44Why the Cowboys’ roster fits a 3–4 defense
  6. 4:28Kenny Clark’s contract and tough cap decisions
  7. 5:18The linebacker problem Dallas must solve
  8. 6:35Draft targets and Sonny Styles’ potential fit
  9. 7:27Why this is a genuinely good day for the Cowboys
  10. 7:49Turning to the Rangers and their pitching need
  11. 10:11Remembering Mackenzie Gore as a top prospect
  12. 10:52How Gore ended up available
  13. 11:22Why the Rangers desperately needed a starter
  14. 12:10Evaluating the current rotation honestly
  15. 12:47Gore’s troubling second-half struggles
  16. 13:25Can the Rangers fix the inconsistency?
  17. 14:14What Dallas gave up in the trade
  18. 15:43The prospects involved and long-term cost
  19. 18:01Why Washington made the deal now
  20. 18:46Gore’s role in the Rangers’ rotation
  21. 19:27The farm system fallout
  22. 19:48Why the risk still makes sense
  23. 20:42Sponsors and closing thoughts
  24. 21:23Final sign-off

Q&A

Why is Christian Parker's background under Vic Fangio significant?

Fangio is considered one of the top three or four defensive coordinators in the NFL, and he personally brought Parker from Denver to Philadelphia, which Hitzges calls a strong recommendation

What defensive scheme will Christian Parker likely run?

A three-four defense with zone principles and man-to-man disguises, similar to Vic Fangio's scheme, which fits the Cowboys' current defensive linemen

What are Mackenzie Gore's performance concerns?

He made the All-Star team last year but went two and seven with a high five ERA in the second half, and has shown swoons in June-July over the past three seasons

How does the Rangers trade affect their farm system ranking?

The Rangers dropped from bottom five to bottom two or three minor league systems in the entire league after trading away three of their top fourteen prospects

Episode notes

Sometimes a sports day doesn’t feel loud — it just feels important.
In this episode of Just Wondering with Norm Hitzges, Norm Hitzges breaks down two significant moves by Dallas teams that signal intention, urgency, and calculated risk.
First, Norm dives into the Cowboys’ hiring of Christian Parker as defensive coordinator. At just 34 years old, Parker arrives with one of the most important credentials in the NFL: five years working under Vic Fangio. Norm explains why Fangio’s defensive philosophy — hybrid fronts, disguised coverages, and confusion by design — could be exactly what Dallas needs, and why the current roster actually fits a transition to a 3–4 defense better than many realize. The challenge now becomes roster construction: linebackers, secondary help, and tough contract decisions that will determine whether the scheme can truly take hold.
Then the focus shifts to baseball, where the Texas Rangers make a bold trade to acquire Mackenzie Gore, a former top prospect and All-Star starter with undeniable talent — and a troubling pattern. Norm walks through Gore’s career arc, from elite first halves to second-half swoons, and asks the central question: can the Rangers unlock consistency where others couldn’t? The cost was steep, including top prospects and further damage to an already thin farm system, but the need was undeniable. With an aging rotation, the Rangers are betting upside matters more than depth.
It’s not optimism or pessimism — it’s realism. Two big swings by two franchises trying to solve real problems, knowing full well that neither move comes with guarantees.
Chapters
00:00:00 – Two major moves in Dallas sports
00:01:28 – The Cowboys hire Christian Parker
00:02:19 – Why Vic Fangio’s influence matters
00:02:55 – The Fangio defensive blueprint explained
00:03:44 – Why the Cowboys’ roster fits a 3–4 defense
00:04:28 – Kenny Clark’s contract and tough cap decisions
00:05:18 – The linebacker problem Dallas must solve
00:06:35 – Draft targets and Sonny Styles’ potential fit
00:07:27 – Why this is a genuinely good day for the Cowboys
00:07:49 – Turning to the Rangers and their pitching need
00:10:11 – Remembering Mackenzie Gore as a top prospect
00:10:52 – How Gore ended up available
00:11:22 – Why the Rangers desperately needed a starter
00:12:10 – Evaluating the current rotation honestly
00:12:47 – Gore’s troubling second-half struggles
00:13:25 – Can the Rangers fix the inconsistency?
00:14:14 – What Dallas gave up in the trade
00:15:43 – The prospects involved and long-term cost
00:18:01 – Why Washington made the deal now
00:18:46 – Gore’s role in the Rangers’ rotation
00:19:27 – The farm system fallout
00:19:48 – Why the risk still makes sense
00:20:42 – Sponsors and closing thoughts
00:21:23 – Final sign-off
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It's Friday, from January 23rd, and today I'm just wondering about two huge moves made by Dallas Fort Worth team yesterday. The Cowboys hiring of a defensive coordinator and the Rangers trade for a starting pitcher. And now a word from our title sponsor.

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They got him from the Philadelphia Eagles, where he's been an assistant of the Camp Fangio there and in Denver. He was coaching the defensive backs in Philadelphia. He's only 34 years old.

And Christian Parker is highly valued in the National Football League. He has a really nice resume. He worked for Fangio in Denver, starting five years ago.

And in Denver, he helped develop solid defensive backs, including, of course, their superstar Patrick Sertain. And then he came to Philadelphia and immediately began working with the High Draft Choices Quinn and Mitchell and Cooper DeGene. You know, it's not hard to coach those guys up to greatness.

I mean, I'm not sure I'm taking it away from Christian Parker. But those were very high draft choices in the National Football League. They should be good players.

But the biggest thing that recommends Christian Parker, to me, five years with Vic Fangio. This is my personal opinion. Fangio is one of the three, four best defensive coordinators in the entire National Football League.

And you will love the scheme he ran that apparently Parker will run here. Fangio has always run a three, four, three defensive linemen, four linebackers that then can morph into a three, three, five. But he brings people from everywhere in order to get pressure.

He'll play too high safeties a lot. But his defense is confusing because it has zone principles with man-to-man disguises. Well, you would think that's what Christian Parker's going to play here.

And here's the best part about that. Defensive linemen, good ones, are very hard to find in the National Football League. Less hard to find if you're running a three, four defense.

And the Cowboys already have their defensive linemen for a three, four. They would play at the tackles Oso Odiquizua and recently acquired Quentin Williams. And the nose tackle would be Kenny Clark.

That is, if the Cowboys can get Clark's contract negotiated, it jumps next year from two million he made this year to 21 million he's due to make next year. Now you would think that's right at the top of the list for the Cowboys. That Clark redone so he can play redone much lower so he can play nose tackle in Christian Parker's defense here.

But the great thing for me is that the players now here at least they have the beginnings to fit a Christian Parker potential scheme. And he worked for Vick and Vick Fangio. Vick Fangio liked him.

Vick Fangio brought him from Denver to Philadelphia. That's about as high a recommendation you can have in my book for a non defensive coordinator. Now what will he need to add here?

Well, if he's got the three defensive linemen, plus people like Solomon Thomas, a good veteran behind them and maybe James Houston moves inside a bit to play behind one of them. Well they're defensive linemen, it's going to need another player or two, but backup players or two. He now needs linebackers.

He needs lots of linebackers because if you're going to play a three, four, you actually need about six linebackers because linebackers get hurt, linebackers get tired. And the Cowboys right now have one linebacker, DeMarviana overshone. Now the UFAW, the draft choice of a couple of years ago, could conceivably play in a three, four as a backup also.

But stress the addition in free agency and the draft of linebackers. That's where the kid's sonny styles, the Ohio State linebacker, if he's at 12, could be a natural for this defense. And this defense needs defensive backs.

It needs one solid corner. Now you could potentially get that at number 20 in the draft. It needs a solid safety.

Now the best safety in this draft and the only one that will go in the first 20, 25, 30 picks, who goes first round, Caleb Downs from Ohio State, I just don't think we'll be there at number 12 in the Cowboys pick. But the key here is they've got their defensive coordinator. He's young, he's a rising star, and he learned under one of the best in the business.

That's a really good day for the Cowboys. And by the way, they took him away from the Eagles. Next, the Rangers who are desperately in need of a starting pitcher make a big trade to get one.

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I have a really good friend, Mike Caps, who's broadcast minor league baseball for decades, but we're such good friends that when Mike gets in an area around here or broadcast games in Oklahoma City, I go out and do some games with Mike Caps. Well, several years back, I saw a San Diego Pitchie prospect, high draft planke of Padres, named Mackenzie Gore, and I thought, wow, this kid's going to be a star. So why wasn't he in San Diego anymore?

Well, they got a chance to make the deal, the land won Soto, and they had to give up something really special, the Washington, and they gave up something really special. If you look at the package San Diego gave Washington, I know Soto's a star, but I'm not sure I'd give it up all those players. James Woods alone looks like a superstar outfielder, but anyway, they gave up Mackenzie Gore in that deal.

And Mackenzie Gore is now pitched in Washington the last few years. He's only 26 years old still, and he made the All Star team last year. Yes, an All Star, and the Rangers got him in a deal.

Well, let's talk Mackenzie Gore first. The Rangers desperately needed a starting pitcher. Their starting rotation the day before yesterday was Jacob DeGrom, a bit old, Nathan Uvall, a bit old, Jack Leiter, and let's see, yeah, let's see TBD, to be determined.

He was the fourth and fifth starter for the Rangers. Now, people are saying Kumar Rocker, what has Kumar Rocker ever done in his years in the Rangers minor league system and suggest he should be a member of this starting rotation? I'll give you that answer, nothing, nothing.

There's potential in the young man, but so far Bradford, Bradford look good and handful of starts last year, but he's been hurt, hurt a lot. Jake Latz, the reliever, Jake Latz did well, but he's not a six, seven in guy. Jake Latz is a five in in guy.

And now, maybe another thing about this is Jake Latz could go back to the Ranger bullpen where he could really help them, but let's go back to Gore. Yes, he made the All Star team last year. And then quite honestly, he fell apart after the All Star break.

He was starved for a half. But then the second half of the season, Mackenzie Gore went two and seven with an earned earned average in the high fives, bottom line, dreadful. Okay, the year before, 2024, fast start, swooned in June and July, the year before 2023 ended May with a 3.57 earned earned average.

By the end of the season, that earned on average had climbed almost a full run to a 4.42 because again, he had high periods of ineffectiveness. Can the Rangers solve this? Can they make Mackenzie Gore of the first half last year, also Mackenzie Gore of the second half last year next this year?

I don't know. If they do, they've got a star. And there is real potentially in this kid.

Now, one of the Rangers give up for him, a five player package. First, their number one pick in last year's draft, Gavin Fine. Gavin Fine's a short stop.

They're probably going to be a third baseman eventually. He was the 12th pick in the entire draft and a top, top prospect with a power potential. But then if you're going to get Mackenzie Gore, you've got to give up something special.

So besides, Fine would they give up? Well, they gave up an outfielder, infielder named Devon Fitzgerald. He was solid in the lower minors last year, solid.

They gave up a starting picture named Alejandro Rosario. I think Alejandro Rosario would have been a top five prospect in this system. Had he not blown out his arm and missed all of 2024 and then came back last year to pitch in only 18 games, though he was very effective in those 18 games in the lower minor leagues.

And he is, I believe, already 24 years old. Then they gave up an outfielder named Uremi Cabrera. He's 20 years old.

He's a Dominican kid. He's an outfielder. But look out here.

Dominican kids can develop way under the radar and last year at A-Ball and A-Plus, Uremi Cabrera evidenced these abilities. Even though he was young, he can't hit for some power. And he can run.

He stole 43 of 47 bases. Unlike a lot of Latin American hitters, he will take a walk. There's potential in this kid.

And the last guy they gave up was a Bemelec Ortiz. He's been in his system for some time. He's on the Major League roster.

He's 510 and 235. That's right. He's built like a fire hydrant.

And as you'd expect, he's got power. He can hit the ball out of the park. But he's probably a D-H eventually.

The Rangers are playing him at first base. That's about all the positions you could get in some D-H. But eventually, if he makes it, a Bemelec Ortiz is a D-H.

And the odds, he'd be in my mind the least of the prospects the Rangers gave up. Now what prospects did they give up? I like baseball America's rankings.

And baseball America said fine was the third best prospect in the Ranger's system. And Devon Fitzgerald was the eighth best. And Rosario was the thirteenth best though, if he's well, I believe he deserves a much higher ranking.

And that young outfielder Cabrera was number 14 the Ranger's system. Listen, I think Washington did well here. But Kenzie Gore has two years left before he's free-aged.

I think Washington was concerned with the way he finished last season, in fact, concern with the way he swooned in each of the last three years pitching for them. If he swooned again, his value would have fallen considerably. Now, is there top notch potential there?

Yes, there is. He steps right into the rotation. As the number four, Lord knows, number three, maybe even.

And understand that DeGrom and Evaldi are aging. The Rangers have to look down the road past them. And what their starting rotation will look like.

And now, it's dressed up some by the presence of Kenzie Gore. Now, did the Rangers give up potentially a lot of talent in this deal? Well, from a system that wasn't very highly regarded, yeah, they did.

The Rangers were considered maybe bottom five in the league before the trade, as far as a farm system rank goes. I think after this trade, the Rangers probably dropped to the bottom two or three minor league systems in the entire league. But they have a key starting pitcher and he will not cost all that much.

And the Rangers truly needed to get something like that. And they acquired potentially a young solid starting pitcher. And now a word from our title sponsor.

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