Star Trek, Seinfeld, & Wing Chun: A Holiday Sit-Down with Phil Morris | The Clubhouse Podcast 16-25

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What's up everybody, it's Rob. I know it's the holidays but we wanted to give you some stuff just to kind of buy you through the holidays.
I got a couple of Q&As coming up one day for this episode and one next week before we return on January 8th.
This week I want to go back to Dallas Comic Show in November of this year where I got to talk to actor, voice actor, second generation actor,
Phil Morris. He is a guy that's got an amazing story to tell. His resume is awesome. Everything from mission impossible to a lot of star track.
He was even in the first episode of one of my favorites and you'll hear about that in this Q&A.
So kick back, relax and enjoy my time with Phil Morris from Dallas Comic Show in November of 2025.
Welcome to Dallas Comic Show. We are keeping it moving. It is our second Q&A of the day and a guy who has over 200 IMDB credits.
They counted it, I didn't. Phil Morris is here you guys.
So I kind of want to connect this Q&A to the one that came before it because I asked Reno a question of his Q&A.
I asked him is there something he's wanted to be a part of which you kind of have scoreboard of him on because he wants to work for Star Trek.
You have literally been Star Trek. You're OG Star Trek. You are TOS Star Trek.
I want to get to that but I want to go back a little bit because I want to start at the beginning.
You have so much cool stuff in your story. You really do.
Not everybody gets to work on a project with their father that their father originated.
Yeah.
And you did because your dad Greg Morris was in the OG Mission Impossible and then they did that reboot was that late 80s early 90s.
It was 88 to 91.
And you got to do that with him.
I did. I did. It was, yeah. Go ahead. I'm going to talk about it.
Our version of Mission Impossible was started because there was a writer.
You're right up on that side. There we go.
There was a writer strike at the time and they felt that in their infinite wisdom that Mission Impossible was one of those shows you could do without changing a word of dialogue or screen direction because you couldn't.
There was a writer strike and it would translate from modern audiences and they weren't wrong.
So I initially got the role of Barney Collier which was the character my father played.
Then when the strike ended again in their infinite wisdom, they decided to make him the son of of which I was the son of Greg Morris.
So it was surreal.
Really, honestly.
And I correct me if I'm wrong and if I'm wrong, the internet's wrong. That's all I'm saying.
Sure.
They listed you as the protégé of Peter Graves. Did you see yourself that way?
No, but it's good PR.
I don't mind that. He was my kind of uncle Peter. You know how you have very close friends to the family.
I just became a great uncle for the third time about six hours ago.
So all the people that were castmates of my father in the original Mission Impossible were like my uncle Peter, my uncle Martin, my uncle, other Peter, Louis.
So when I got the new Mission Impossible, I don't think I'd seen him since those days until I met him again at the restaurant to congratulate everybody for getting the show.
Oh, wow.
So it was like a couple of decades that I hadn't seen him.
I guess the reason they say I was his protégé was that we were very close shooting.
We conferred with each other all the time as actors is like professional artists.
We played tennis every week together. He was a great tennis player and you know, he just was an older cat.
And I think that they saw that, you know, I was very beautiful and I don't mind being his protégé.
I respect people that played tennis because I can't.
I'm a racquetball player. So I've got I do the power thing and the ball just goes over the fence every time.
I can't serve tennis serving is like an art. It truly is truly is to make it work right.
I don't care what you do and I couldn't get it done.
No, I love tennis.
Tell me a little bit about Chun Wing.
Wing Chun.
Actually, it's Wing Chun.
Okay, they've got backwards.
Yeah, because they're not Chinese.
Wing Chun is a system that was made popular by a man named Itman,
of which you know the movies.
Many men, yes, starting Donnie Yun.
But actually the reason why Wing Chun is famous is because of a guy named Bruce Lee.
It was Bruce Lee's home art.
Such a fan.
Me too. I was a huge fan boy.
So I always wanted to study Wing Chun and I never found a studio anywhere growing up.
So I studied karate and more of the traditional martial arts systems.
And then one day I found a studio in the rain in Los Angeles that said Wing Chun.
I'm like, I gotta go.
What? Huh? I gotta learn this.
I come to find out the gentleman who was the seafood was a man named Hawkins Chung.
Hawkins Chung studied in Hong Kong with Bruce Lee.
He was one of Bruce Lee's best friends.
In fact, in the documentary like Water,
the first line is a letter that Bruce is writing.
And it says Dear Hawkins.
And that's my teacher.
And that was 30 for 30 if I'm 30 for 30.
So Hawkins was my teacher.
And it was Bruce's letter to my seafood telling him how crazy people were here in America
and that the training had to change.
Wow.
And so my seafood started changing his training in Hong Kong,
finished his tutelage under Itman.
So he was a complete Itman student.
I'm an Itman lineage.
I studied with my seafood for 35 years.
So I was with him up until the day he died.
And I thank him for a lot.
And my business is crazy.
It's very difficult.
It can be hard on your ego in both ways.
In good ways and bad ways.
Studying something like Wing Chun.
Studying a martial art that will always be more perfect than you will ever hope to be.
Grounds you.
It gives you a humility that I think is really refreshing.
And that is what I do.
How does that translate into your day job?
Does that discipline help you?
Yeah.
I mean, how much of that, how much of those worlds cross and in your case?
Because it's more for some people than it is for others.
Well, it's a psychological thing for me.
You know, I don't do martial arts movies or TV shows really or at all.
It's a focus.
You know, it's me humbling myself to something greater than me.
Every character I play is greater than me.
No character I play knows that I'm playing a character.
No character I play knows they're on a TV show.
They don't know they're in a comedy.
They don't know they're funny.
They don't know their drama.
They're just people.
So in training Wing Chun.
I mean, you go and you want to be a badass, right?
Everybody who goes to martial arts or boxing or whatever.
You want to be a bad.
Yeah.
You want to learn how to protect yourself.
We've all watched the drama.
I want to be that guy.
And what you learn very quickly when you really, really do start to train for real is that it takes
a great deal of humility.
You know, it takes a great deal of grace.
It takes a great deal of focus.
And like you said, surrendering yourself to something more than that.
And community.
You know, I'm nothing without my training partners.
I'm nothing without my scene partners.
So it's commensurate in that way.
You know, we all humble ourselves to come to this greater experience,
whether it's movies, TV, or martial arts.
And then through our shared community, we come to a certain truth.
It's no different than what I do as an actor.
And I would be remiss while we were talking about recently.
If you don't have the criterion box set of all of his movies, it's 50% off this month.
So go buy it.
I think I've got all these movies in various formats.
Yeah.
That box, that criterion box set is one.
I have a few S copies of all of his material.
I actually, I kept my Blu-ray of the Warner Brothers release of Ender the Dragon,
even though I have the box set.
You know, he never saw that completed.
I know. Never saw it completed.
It was, I just, I love that whole genre.
Be too.
It was awesome.
So let's, let's talk a little bit about one of the bigger things.
Let's talk a little bit side-felt.
Yeah.
You're actually this year, the second Seinfeld cast member I've interviewed.
Who would you get?
Justy Michele.
She was on that show for a little while.
She was originally going to be Elaine, and then they went with Julia Dreyfus.
And she was like, I don't want to Jerry's exes in a few episodes.
Got it.
But, I mean, we don't even have to answer the question of who you were playing.
Because there's just, you see the picture and you know.
Talk about how that happened.
I auditioned for that, actually.
I was on their radar, the Seinfeld production company radar,
because they had done an episode about yogurt in New York.
And basically it was about, it was around the mayoral race,
Giuliani versus David Dinkins.
So they shot this two ways.
One with the press secretary of David Dinkins, which was me,
and one with the press secretary of Giuliani, which is another actor.
Whoever won the race, that was the press secretary that was going to be in the final.
Well, David Dinkins did not win.
So I didn't make the final.
But Larry David directed my scene, so he knew of me.
So when I came in to read, they were familiar.
But they had no idea I was going to pull that out.
And the other thing about it is that I would be going to the same barbershop
as a man named Johnny Cochrane, who was the template for Jackie Childs.
So I knew Johnny Cochrane's rhythms is, you know,
syncrices well before this, this is the OJ Simpson trial.
We just come out of the OJ Simpson trial.
They wanted to approximate that character.
Literally, that's what they wanted.
They wanted to approximate.
Hi.
Got it.
Got it.
Throwing a little, you know, hustlers, pre-corner preacher,
lambdas chaser, Jackie Childs.
So it was a lot of fun.
I mean, that had to have been nothing sort of just joy every time.
Polarity.
Every time.
And I killed them every time.
I have pictures of them not keeping themselves together
because Jackie's just slaying them.
You know, hey, take it all day long.
All twice on Sunday.
So let's go back to the beginning because I mentioned this earlier.
You have more Star Trek cred than just about anybody on the planet
because TOS, search for Spock, DS9, my personal favorite,
and Voyager.
Yeah.
Like, that's...
You could just have that.
It would be fine.
Like, how old were you in TOS?
Nine, eight, nine, nine, something like that.
Yeah.
Oh, I wasn't...
You know, that was a stunt-casted episode.
So they wanted these kids who were not actors, but understood how to handle themselves on a set.
They don't want us to be polished actors, right?
They want us to be kids.
So they hired the children of actors who understood how to be quiet on set
and how to act up when they had to act up.
And so I did it.
My sister, I only did it.
The Shatner girls were in it.
Martin Landau, Barbara Baines, daughters were in it.
And so we just played these kids on the episode called Mary.
Which I thought, I just saw that.
And then you got to do Star Trek III.
Which was directed by Leonard Nimoy.
And people talk about the odds and the events.
I am unapologetically a fan of three.
Okay.
Like, two is great.
Don't get me wrong.
But three...
I liked three because they took something that they didn't really have to do,
and they still did it and made it work.
Right.
And that's...
And you know, you can't not have Spock.
You just can't.
That's why it's such a great movie.
And like right now, the guys that plays them on Strange New Worlds is fantastic.
Yeah.
And I just saw him in a Western this week called the Unholy Trinity that came out earlier.
Oh, right.
With Sam Jackson.
Yes.
Yeah.
Couldn't get through that movie.
I liked it.
I liked it a lot.
I'm a big Western guy.
I am too.
And it's not great.
Don't get me wrong.
But it's not.
I've seen worse Westerns.
Yeah.
I don't want to see worse Westerns.
They pitched Eddington as a modern Western.
And it isn't.
That's all I'm saying.
You've also gotten...
You've crossed over a lot of some of my favorite things too.
Because...
You've got...
More geek-cred because you've got Doom Patrol.
Doom Patrol.
You know.
Small deal.
Scooby-Doo and WWE...
Come on, man.
Because half of my podcast is professional wrestling.
Oh, there he is.
So...
I watched it in the last year.
But I can't remember who they actually used and who they subbed in in that one.
Was there any crossover with any of those guys in that time?
I didn't meet anybody other than the Scooby-Doo cast.
Right?
I didn't meet any of the wrestlers.
They came in later.
Okay.
I think they had Steve Austin and some of the people like that.
But those guys scheduled they had to work around.
Right.
So they weren't necessarily going to be in the regular...
Because at that point they cast their...
They're doing 250-300 dates a year.
Yeah.
And hard work.
I mean, that...
It's not like it is now when they...
They're doing half that.
Back in the day when it was the truck...
No, a bus and truck.
It was serious.
So, no, we didn't work with those guys.
I did say at one point, because I don't know if that's the episode or not.
I did a couple of Scooby-Doo's where I was able to say,
I would have gotten away with it if not for those meddling kids.
That's...
That's...
Again, that's just checking...
Yeah, I can't...
I can't...
Come on, let's go.
Um...
You...
Our second guest in a row...
That's got Star Wars cred.
Especially when it comes to the Old Republic.
So...
Yeah.
All right.
One of my favorite things to act feel that do voice work is...
Does your prep change whether it's an animated feature or a video game?
Not really.
No.
Um...
You know, the dive that I do for vocal work is not as deep as the dive that I do for on camera work.
Right.
Because it's more of a technique, honestly.
And even though you're making connections with relationships,
it really is about your voice and how you can convey whatever with your voice.
So, um...
No, there's...
To me, there's no difference.
The schedules are different, but there's no difference in the process or the attack.
And you've also done...
What I feel is probably one of the more underrated animated series of recent years.
And that's...
Love Death in Robots.
Which...
That's another one that you check off because that is such a different type of show.
But it still crushes.
We did one of the few live action ones.
So, that was crazy good.
And the director was the creator of Love Death and Robots.
And the director of the first Deadpool.
So Tim was...
I forget Tim's last name.
But he's an amazing director.
He's got an incredible CGI company.
I would blow my line and he could don't worry about it.
I could replace you with CGI.
Which is exactly what an actor wants to hear.
It made me straight.
You know what I mean?
Scared me straight.
But when we were kids,
now I can really completely replace you.
Here's a funny story.
Since we are talking about Mission Impossible,
I'm going to say this is so fun.
So Peter Graves was having contract problems during one season...
In between seasons, he won a more money.
Bruce Geller, who was the creator of Mission Impossible,
invites Peter to his office.
He says, Peter.
I hear you're having trouble with negotiations.
He goes, yeah, yeah, I'm not quite getting my thing.
He's like, well, I have a great idea.
What we're going to do next year.
We're going to have an episode where you're in a terrible accident.
And we wrap you in bandages.
And when we unwrap those bandages,
you are going to be David, whatever the guy's name is.
It was just a fugitive.
I believe it's a fugitive in the TV series.
David Chanson?
David Chanson.
You will be David Chanson.
What do you think of that?
He signed his contract with the next day.
Yeah, I did.
Guys, I can do this all day.
And I have no problem doing this all day.
But we're here for you guys.
So if you've got a question, step right up to the microphone.
And otherwise, we'll keep going.
Or yell it out.
No, whatever.
You've also gotten to do what I feel is one of the more underrated shows
that ended way too soon.
And on a cliffhanger that angered me when it didn't come back.
Terminator to Sarah Connor Chronicles.
Is Shirley Manson just a force of nature?
Because she's so good on that show.
Well.
In the Sarah Connor Chronicles, it was the horrible queen in Game of Thrones.
The actor.
Did you do that?
If you hadn't asked me, I could have told you.
She's played Sarah Connor.
Yeah.
Yeah.
She was fantastic.
The final mile was in it from Firefly.
Phenomenal.
Well, that hurts my heart because I love that series so much.
And I played Miles Dyson.
Mm-hmm.
Well, if you remember, Miles Dyson had died.
Lena Heady.
Lena Heady.
There we go.
Phenomenal actor from the 300 Phenomenal.
Sorry, Lena.
Well, the problem with my character in the show
was that, ostensibly, Miles Dyson was dead.
So they felt that people would be confused
if they saw me in scenes with her.
Even though I'm in her mind, they couldn't separate that.
So I did one amazing episode.
So I didn't do any more because they thought it would be
confusing for the audience.
And I wish it would continue because I love that show.
It was so well done.
It really was well done.
Oh, my God.
It was amazing.
I saw that on your resume.
I'm like, we have to talk about the show because.
I loved it.
I loved working with her.
And that second season ended.
And I was like, oh.
And they're like, yeah, you're done.
I'm like, no.
Do a movie.
Do something.
Wrap this up.
It was so good.
It was so good.
It was so good.
Oh, my goodness.
So yeah, that's one of those ones that hurts you.
It hurts your heart.
Vandal Savage or Jonah Hex?
Vandal Savage.
You've got to do him more, though.
I did.
Batman and the Brave and the Bull is, I'm a Batman fanatic.
Right.
And I love Brave and the Bull.
I really liked the way Brave and the Bull ended that final episode
where they had every version of him ever.
And it made me so happy.
But Vandal Savage is one of those characters that has gone
through a number of iterations.
Do you, and I asked the same thing before of our previous guest,
Reno.
Reno.
Oh, good.
It's one of those days.
Between you and me.
Yeah, I like Reno.
Reno.
So, so much.
But, between us, we're going to get there.
Do you look at any other iteration of Vandal Savage before you play him?
No.
Or you just like, this is what I want to do.
This is how I want to feel.
So I hear it.
Okay.
So I hear it.
So I can feel it.
Because the live action they did for Legends of Tomorrow was a little bit different.
Very different.
In the Vandal Savage, I do for Doom.
Justice League Doom is different than the one I do for Justice League.
He's a little darker.
That's one of my projects because I'm going through all the animated.
I've got them all now.
So I'm going through all my blue rays.
So, and that's, I've actually, I saw Doom years ago, but I'm going to rewatch it.
Oh, right on.
And Justice Young Justice.
Watch Young Justice.
Watch the last one.
The Young Justice series.
Oh.
So good.
So good.
So I was fortunate to play Zod and Lorzod in the final season of Young Justice.
It was just, I mean, I love this world, man.
I love comics.
I love animation.
I love it.
I'm so fortunate to play in this universe that I grew up loving.
I mean, I still have the same comics that I collected when I was six and seven years old.
I didn't sell one of them.
I mean, I'm into it.
So.
Who was your go to superhero?
It was Captain America.
Okay.
Those are the first comics that I bought.
Daredevil.
I love Daredevil.
You know, not, not, not a super skilled superhero.
Using his sight or his lack of sight.
I just, I love Marvel.
Marvel was my jam.
It was only like two years, two, maybe two, three years ago that I realized that
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles is basically a parody of Daredevil.
Yeah.
That blew my mind when I was like, super good.
I've been watching this for 40 years.
How did they get that?
Somebody on my table and asked me about being an actor, right?
How do you, my advice is always get the best, find the best class you can.
If you have no professional experience, if you don't have a lot of experience, go to class.
Go there and find a mentor or a person who can guide you.
And take this beautiful talent that you have.
And, and, and polish it up.
You have to be an actor to use your voice.
Yeah.
I'm not saying that you want to be on camera.
But voice acting is, that's why I call it voice acting.
And it's a different level because you don't, you people can't see your facial expressions.
Right.
You have to use more emotion.
You have to be deeper in terms of your connection to humanity.
Some of the greatest people I know, you're a low, you're a low, low, low, low,
low and low and low in terms of the world, the field of Mars of the world, Kevin Conroy.
Oh.
Brilliant actors.
My Batman.
So, the better you, because you have a great voice.
But I don't, a lot of people with great voices that don't work.
Because they can't, the nuances of character are what separates the good from the, uh, to the great.
You know what I mean?
My voice acting...
Well, so I think I think where you're going with this is you can act like anybody.
But can you be any, can you, can you be.
Can you can you separate from that? Oh, we were talking about acting for it. And this this lovely guy says he would took a commercial workshop
Here's what I told him my acting coach told me learn to act period
You can always break it down into 30 60 second bites
But if you learn for 30 seconds how to create a character and then you're in a play for two hours
How do you extend that that's a different ballgame, you know, but you can always
Edit the length of your immersion, but if you can't go there
It doesn't matter how quick you can get there. Can you carry it? I auditioned for or I didn't because I couldn't do it
There was a the new looney tunes came out years ago
Well, Mel blank did all those voices. Yeah, he did. So you might have a good
Daffy you might have a good you're 70 Sam can you you're 70 Sam bugs bunny Daffy
Tweety bird Sylvester
All those yes, and can you carry them for an entire show and in some in some cases in the same scene
That's right. I I did Laura Zod and Zod opposite each other in the same scene
So I'm playing a teenager, but I'm also playing Zod
So to play those two characters opposite each other on the same mic and have dynamics that are different
You may think that and you may I'm not saying I don't know you you may have it
I'm just saying the way to absolutely guarantee
Boom you got it go to a class go be around other people see how well or don't or not
They do it then you have a community of actors that when you want an agent or you want an opportunity
You guys are collaborating together. You're not all by yourself trying to figure it out
It's a tough machine. It's not as simple as people think trust me
Everybody wants to do it
Very few people do the percentage of people who make a living as a talent an actor is less than
10% in Hollywood less than 10% I still suggest to you
I still suggest to you if you want to do it at all even as a hobby and I don't know anybody the professional realm
Who does this as a hobby? I'll be honest with you. They don't make it. It's not a hobby. It can't be
It has to be your jam
You know if you start rolling you're going to give up your other job and if you don't you're not going to be rolling
My opinion my opinion
Get into a class that instructor will then go wow
But you can the best well wherever you are go to the best place wherever you are
I'm not saying you just Google it
But I but I think it's like you can do a lot of that stuff online too
So even if you're traveling around
You can find like you said a community of people online
So that doesn't matter really where you are sometimes you could do stuff via zoom or things like that
And I think that's a great that I think that point is great in the guy like a Dave Fenoy
Who's a wonderful acting vocal coach?
F-E-N-N-O-Y
He has a great class, but there's a lot of people like that. So go online see see what it's all about
See if it still fills your your cup
It goes as different man. This is a different experience. What I do
Is tough? I have long hours like I'm doing I do fire country for CBS
I get it to set it five in the morning
I'm there until eight at night
Then I got to do it the next day and the next day and the next day and it's not easy
You know my mind has to be right my focus has to be good
I can't get tired when they're ready for me to go. I got to be ready and up
They're oh, there's only one way I know to know that that's to have the experience of it
So that's what I suggest find more experiences
Absolutely
My dude's back
My pleasure brother
Thank you for coming out my pleasure
What can you tell us about early Larry David?
Early oh early Larry David. He's a comedic genius
He's a comedian's he's a he's a comics comic. I agree. There's no doubt. There's no there's one Larry David
Yes, I think his genius is
Formulating the comedy not actually performing it unless it's in
Curb right where he can play himself
He's not a great. I don't like his stand-up that much
But he's the kind of guy that will tell you Phil
I'd say something is Jackie and I'm doing this right. He goes no
Say the line and pick up the cup or pick up the cup then say the line
So I'm doing this and I pick up the cup. No, but what are you talking about?
It's a different level and it's just simple stuff. He is one of the few guys that I think the way I sum up Larry David's like
When you're done with one of his performances, you're feeling something
Yes, because I've I've I've sat through you know comics and in comedy that I've gotten through and I've been like
Okay, that was a thing
But with him you're you're feeling you're feeling highs you're feeling lows you're feeling everything in between
You're feeling something
That's what I loved about Curb
You got the other side of Seinfeld when you watch Curb you're like you get a part of it when you watch Seinfeld
You get the Jerry kind of part right and you give a representation of the Larry with George you watch Curb you're like oh
That's where George came from
That's the that's the Yang Jerry was the Yin
Larry's the Yang man
You made a Jackie Charles he created Jackie Charles
Final episode I pictures of him. I was doing a show a wonderful show called the new loveboat the next wave
As they were the W my friend
The table read for the final episode. I wasn't there
Larry goes. I'm doing Jackie
So there's pictures of Larry David at the table reading and he's doing the same thing. I'm doing
You love it so good. I know that was UPN wasn't at the new love before it was CW
Which you you already had
UPN cred from Voyager I did this Voyager was their first big show. I think so yeah
You mentioned your sister earlier. Iona
Your parents were in the business. You got two sisters in the business. What is that Thanksgiving day table like?
And we're all very different, you know my younger sisters are writer
Brilliant singer and wonderful actor, but she decided to be a writer
My older sister is an actor. Yes, but she's also a director
So she's morphed more into that right now and I'm just this knucklehead who kept doing the same thing
I've been doing since I was 17 years old and
Dude, we just we're colorful. We're a colorful family. You know, we're very intense. We're very
Learned when it comes to the arts
Both my sisters are amazing cooks. I'm an amazing eater
I yeah, there was a Robin Harris Robin Harris once said. I've got to wait problem. I can't wait to eat
You know, that's me. I mean, I love to cook so good. I'm waiting for my wife to tell me if I can smoke the turkey for Thanksgiving yet
So that's one of my favorite things to do is smoking and barbecuing
Yes, I yeah, we all say yes. Yes, but the thing is it's a four-day process
So I have to get that approved by the administration first
Before then I have to buy it
It has to come down the administration has to have to go away. We yes. Yes, hilarious. Oh
You've also got Marvel cred. Yeah, and you know, you have Marvel and DC because you've got Jonah Hicks
You've got Vandal Savage. You got smallville. You got black panther. Yeah
Is there a favorite character you get to play when you're in those sandboxes?
Or one you haven't gotten to play that you're like I want to play this character
um
Every time I play them
It blows my mind
I'm a world here. We have the things we like right
The certain comic or certain movie
I'm like I'm no different. I I love this stuff when I was a kid. I
What's your go-to
For what when when you want to watch something and like if you need inspiration or did you have a go-to movie or tv show? Yeah, I will
I will watch satoichi the blind swordsman. I just got that on blue, right? I'm all over it. I'm all over Korean
drama
Because they're espionage and the martial arts and the thing is so intense and the North Korea versus the South Korea
It's intense man. I love all kinds of historical Chinese Japanese Asian stuff. I love that stuff
This is why I love the criterion collection. Love the criteria collection. Get the Kurosawa style
All the Kurosawa style as well. Yes. I love. I'm still trying to get lone wolf and cub. I can't find it. Yeah, gotta get the um
Musashi Trilogy Miyamoto Musashi. I think I picked it up phenomenal. I think I'd have to look so I love that stuff. I love all
Superhero stuff all all of it. I even watch it if I don't like it because I got to see I got to get through it
You know gotta make sure that it's I've done it
Oh, what else do I love?
And the TV streaming television right now is a whole different level people. You're not wrong. The three networks ABC and DCC
Whole different level. They spend more money. They have better actors better scripts
It's so streaming TV is big time which you've also been a part of because you were Bosch legacy
Which they're doing another spin-off now
Maggie Q. Yeah, let's let's talk a little bit about fire country though because that was kind of a show that really kind of came out of nowhere
One of my wife's personal favorites. Oh
It was one of those like I read about it and I was like
This is either going to be fantastic or it's going to
No pun intended go out into place of war right right and it's been not only is it sustaining it now has a spin-off
Yeah, when you go into a show like that because the storyline is so different from your normal drama
Of a guy who's actually
incarcerated and then part of his thing as he works as a volunteer fireman
Do you go into that going?
This is going to be awesome or you're just like
We're going to ride this thing to the wheels fall off. I look at character. Okay. Do I love this character?
If I love the character I'm pretty much going to be there
It doesn't matter about budgets or ABCC. It doesn't matter
If somebody brings something to me and I fall in love with this man's this person's journey
I want to experience it and
um, like I said my characters don't know they're doing tv
So when I play these characters
I do the best that I can to approximate the life of that character and however long it's supposed to be is however long
It's supposed to be
Every accurate things
Whatever they're doing in that show should be a spin-off
Okay
They're always looking for the next job that's ambition you have ambition you're thinking man this could be a spin-off
So I go into every show thinking that character is the star of their universe
It doesn't matter that there's a Seinfeld. It doesn't matter that there's Max Therio who's the star of fire country
It just matters that that character exists and in his world like all of us
We are the stars of our own life
So I give that to my characters. He doesn't know idea. He's not number one on his own call sheet
So it doesn't matter how long it goes or doesn't go
I don't ever go into it thinking I hope it just I just go into it hoping that
In the moment I am that person and the kids call that main character energy
Who's on your bucket list to work with another one of my favorite questions to ask
Um, I'd love to work with Brad Pitt
Have you seen f1? I loved it really good a big car guy. Yeah, I thought the soundtrack. I was like I like it so good
Um, I'd love to work with James Gunn
Um, I'd love to work with Scorsese
Who else? Um, there's just so many. I mean
I
I'm fortunate in that a lot of the things that I think of I can manifest and somehow in the next month or so
I'll get some sort of opportunity. That's all almost all my Q and A's we're putting it out there to the universe
Yeah, put it out there the universe doesn't come back right big on manifestation. So um, it's still a lot of people
I'd like to where I'd love to work with Halle Berry. I think she and I'd be great in a movie together
Um, just a lot of people
Do you have a project you really want to do? Yeah, whether it's a remake or something that
Our property that you want to make into something right now. Okay, that came as a result of fire country
Okay, so the inspiration came from my character that I play in fire country. It's not the same character
But because of that I wrote an entire show
based on this particular character
So I've written the pilot. I've gotten the whole series
Plot it out
I cannot mention it because I'm in a deal right now with a very big production company
And it's going to happen nice. So we talk about manifestation right
When it happens you're gonna go wow, I heard that Phil was talking about this thing you couldn't talk about this is it
It's got to move a little
You know, you've gotten to work with so many group of Tracy Morgan. Oh gosh, Eddie Murphy. Yeah, PJ
The PJ's very underrated in my
That was another UPN thing like you were the king of UPN in that first five year. You're welcome
Yeah, I you know, I've worked with every serious African-American comic you can name other than Richard prior and Fred Fox
Right, that's before my time
I never worked directly with Eddie, but it's ironic because I just said I'd never worked with Eddie
Then you mentioned the PJs. So I worked in the Eddie universe. You've been you've been Eddie adjacent. Yes
And you document is really good
It moves really fast
There's so many things they just gloss over. I'm like no go more into that. Yeah, no, it's uh, it's those are amazing
He's an amazing talent. He's an amazing human being
Um as a matter of fact the movie
um
Mulan
Where he plays moushu
Kirsten you kirsten your family kirsten your cow. I love that
That was me first really so animation takes a long time
Was it up now animation takes a long time
Yeah
And um
So guys like Eddie are not going to hang out for three years
They come in later, right? So you hire an actor like me
Who might do an Eddie or a proximate Eddie and we come in and we help the animators to do what they call the scratch track
Right so I was moushu before Eddie was moushu. Oh wow
So they played me what Eddie was going to do
And then I did the entire movie approximating Eddie's voice
What do you think he what do you think he would do here and that was moushu and then Eddie came in and did the final
Do you get to keep those recordings? No, however, it did lead because I came in to do the same thing for Atlantis
The movie Atlantis and lost kingdom. I believe the lost empire lost empire. Yeah, so I came in to do the same scratch track, right
And I said if you don't get Danny Glover or Morgan Freeman or some guy like that
Thank you about your boy. Yeah
So my agent called he goes you're the guy
I'm like what
Yeah, you're in
So I played Dr. Sweet in Atlantis based on all those scratch track. So that's what I'm saying
So now you guys didn't cry too
Because it's a good job. Okay. I didn't have the job, right? I just had talent
And they brought talent in the room to see where it would go
I don't know
They don't know but if I hadn't trained it
They wouldn't hired me for that if I could only do it for that little bit of whatever and I couldn't extend and carry it
They'd hired somebody else
But I they didn't know and I didn't know so you need the experience to know that because they're spending money
It's real money, man
This is not joke. It's not like a favor
I get it I get it yeah
Listen, you're you're taking
You're taking this from a guy who's been doing it for 50 years
Just want you to absorb it and take it and then do whatever you want
If you're good with it, that's fine
I'm just telling you my my my journey and my journey is a real one
I have two
I have union cards
I pay dues that say that I'm a real guy and I have seen them come and I have seen them go
So I'm just telling you you want to stay?
I don't care if you need the money or not, but you only take it seriously
Listen to what I'm saying. It's not just about having a good voice
Some somebody who's who's walked the walk and talked to talk both truly and in the second case literally
Literally, so we're getting close to the end of our time
I always like to reserve the last few minutes for blatant self-promotion
So we want people to go to your table get autographs shaking hands getting pictures and all the things
But after this weekend, which I'm so glad you're here because I know we've had some scheduling problems
Before so well, I'm like we've got it this time. We've got it
Social media websites where people can get in touch with you after this weekend because we're gonna
I'm a this will be on my YouTube channel so I can see it and I appreciate this is great. I'm happy to be
I'm at the Phil Morris everywhere at the Phil Morris
IG Facebook ex everywhere
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