TCU Professor Vanished in Broad Daylight: Laura Lee Crane | Signal 51 Chronicles Case 5 Ep 2
Laura Lee Crane, a 77-year-old TCU Star Point School director emeritus, was abducted from a Tom Thumb grocery store parking lot in Fort Worth on January 30, 2004, by crack addicts Edward Busby and Kathleen Latimer. The two killed her by wrapping her face in 36 feet of duct tape in multiple layers while she was in the trunk of her own car, then abandoned her body on an embankment in Murray County, Oklahoma. Busby was sentenced to death in 2005 and is scheduled for execution on May 14, 2026; Latimer pleaded guilty in 2006 and received a life sentence.
About this episode
Key takeaways
- Busby and Latimer were shoplifting beer when their getaway driver abandoned them; they carjacked Crane as an escape vehicle after seeing her with her car door open in the parking lot
- Latimer ordered Busby to tape Crane's head with duct tape and played a rap CD called 'Beg for Mercy' at high volume so she would not hear Crane screaming and kicking in the trunk
- Crane died from suffocation in less than one minute due to the duct tape covering her airway; she received nearly 26 feet of duct tape wrapped around her arms and legs
- An Oklahoma City police officer's instincts led to the arrest when he stopped the car after dispatcher notification; a case source expressed frustration that Tom Thumb surveillance video was not collected until the day after Crane went missing
- Crane devoted her entire career to teaching children with learning disabilities and authored a nationally recognized reading program for learning-disabled students
Q&A
What were Busby and Latimer doing at the Tom Thumb when they first encountered Crane?
They were shoplifting beer when their getaway driver abandoned them; they then carjacked Crane's car to escape and get back to their motel in East Fort Worth.
How did Laura Lee Crane die?
She died from suffocation in the car trunk; Latimer ordered Busby to wrap duct tape around Crane's head in multiple layers totaling 36 feet, leaving no airway for her to breathe. The medical examiner testified it took less than one minute.
What was the source of frustration mentioned by investigators in the case?
A source with intimate knowledge of the case expressed frustration that the Tom Thumb surveillance video showing the abduction was not collected until the day after Crane went missing, which could have enhanced or refocused the search.
What is Laura Lee Crane's professional legacy?
She was director emeritus of Star Point School at TCU, devoted her entire career to teaching children with learning disabilities and special needs, and authored a nationally recognized reading program for learning-disabled students.
Episode notes
A routine stop at a Fort Worth grocery store turned into one of the most chilling cases the city has ever seen.
In Case 5 of Signal 51 Chronicles, John Henry and retired Fort Worth Police Sergeant Jake White break down the abduction and murder of Laura Lee Crane—a beloved TCU professor who vanished in broad daylight. What began as a missing persons report quickly escalated into something far more serious, as investigators uncovered unusual credit card activity, a vehicle on the move, and a timeline that didn’t add up.
With firsthand law enforcement insight, Jake walks through how this case unfolded in real time—highlighting the limitations of policing in 2004, the importance of instinct, and the critical Oklahoma City traffic stop that changed everything. Alongside the case, the episode dives into high-speed pursuits, real police decision-making, and the unpredictable nature of crime in Fort Worth.
This is more than a story—it’s a look at how cases are actually worked, solved, and remembered.
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⏱️ CHAPTERS (Clean + Optimized)
00:00:00 – Welcome to Signal 51 Chronicles
Fort Worth stories, policing insight, and what’s ahead
00:04:01 – High-Speed Chase on Camp Bowie
A dangerous pursuit involving multiple agencies
00:12:43 – The Cigarette Bandits Case
A coordinated theft ring and multi-county pursuit
00:18:24 – Laura Lee Crane Disappears
A beloved TCU professor vanishes after a routine stop
00:26:17 – Community Tension & Context
How local dynamics shaped early reactions
00:27:41 – Missing or Abducted?
Why investigators knew something wasn’t right
00:31:32 – Oklahoma City Traffic Stop
A routine stop turns into a major break in the case
00:40:41 – Evidence Inside the Motel Room
Clues begin to paint a darker picture
00:42:46 – Instinct vs Procedure
The decisions that moved the case forward
00:43:49 – The Reality of Police Work
What cases like this reveal about crime and response
00:45:51 – Closing Thoughts & Follow
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Welcome to the Signal 51 Chronicles. This is part two of vanished and broad daylight. I'm John Henry.
My compadre here is Jake White. We come to you from, we join you from an undisclosed location in Fort Worth, Texas. Better known to Summers, Caltown.
We are here on the platform of Sunset Lounge DFW. Proud member of the Sunset Lounge DFW. On the other side of us is superstar producer, Ashley from Hood County.
Hello friends. So excited for today's episode, I need to know what happens. You're about to find out.
God, it wasn't me. Ashley, you were heading right in with the law. Truth time.
We're in the trustee. Don't trust me. Don't trust me.
Trust me. Yes. Uh oh.
I got DUI in my early 20s. And I was very, very, very drunk. Was that here?
No, I lived before it at the time. I was very drunk and I handed the cop my earrings. It's in the report.
My mom still gives me shit about it. It's been a decade. Do you have the report?
Uh huh. Oh man. Oh you do.
And there are words of it all too just to make sure in case somebody needs them for something even that more than 10 years. Yeah, it might. It might be a case.
From another case. So was this a crime where you went to jail or was it a citation? No, I went to jail.
Oh man. I was still drunk when I went to court too. It was great.
I was like, did I hydro when you went to fight or something? No, I drove the wrong way down, and one way should, oh boy that you got the jail. walked in like like a hard like so people and shit no I couldn't figure out how to make a collect call first problem because they don't teach that to millennials so I didn't know yeah right and then I got into jail and I don't remember actually being processed or anything but they gave me a bunk I went to sleep and there was like a 10 person cat fight while I was dead asleep the very very nice lady that talked to me while I was in there for the 16 hours I was there told me all about it that that did you get a jailhouse tatter anything was there for 16 hours 16 days that that the county jail any county jail huh it's not a place you want to spend much if you two had an experience I have I am not sure why you're just now telling me this while we're recording but I love where this is going mine too was happened to be I call related but the PI yes you had no men if you got arrested for PI I think I was judged unfairly to be honest was this here in Fort Worth yes it was anywhere that I would know part of town certainly yeah yeah this isn't about me this bad actually no hold on hold on hold on hold on break here where you found passed out no no you were alert and they hooked you up for PI I would be fairly alert yeah you had to be an MF and somebody I don't think so walking down the street with no pants on it had to be something no yeah okay so what was it no no no I public a decency no no nothing like that nothing like that just yes just yes Jake have you ever had a run-in with the law no no actually no well I mean outside of kid stuff you know like it's terrible conversation mischievous teenager oh I never got interval things teenager wise so anyway moral that story is the county jail sucks yeah no I mean I got a tear gated one time what you do I didn't do anything I was just present during the criminal mischief of it squealed man just a snitch man immediately oh boy let that be a lesson to your friends don't tell this guy anything glad we got a total our deepest darkest secrets today man this is yeah and I'm impressed that I'm just now learning this I will ask you more about this later let's go to the why what do you say we go the blotter way better than talking what do you say we go anywhere other than where we are right now so let's go to Charlotte North Carolina a 25 year old woman is accused of hitting a police officer with a car during a quote-unquote street takeover event you wear these street takeovers I've seen them yeah see I just news stories I bet yeah I've actually I'm pretty sure I've seen him yeah yeah I don't know if it was a thing back in the day but so what that is you know drivers they quote-unquote take over the street and they're like doing donuts in the street or parking lots or wherever else and so in Charlotte North Carolina this was going on and according to police the officer approached the woman's black Kia Optima black Kia Optima take a street takeover Optima it's not what I picture and stood in front of the vehicle while giving commands to stop that sounds like a bad idea yeah the driver allegedly accelerated and instruct the officer causing him to roll over the hood officers taken to the hospital minor injuries nothing serious here the driver was later arrested and charged with felony assault with a deadly weapon on a government official however she was released the same day after posting a three thousand dollar bond which means you can cost about three hundred bucks to get out of there yeah the low bond amount drew strong criticism from law enforcement advocates who said it since the wrong message about attacks on police and could hurt officer morale we hear a lot about officer morale here in Fort Worth Texas you know there does seem to be some so the other thing about these I was I looked up the street takeover things and it's cars doing the donuts are drifting drifting yes in the middle of intersections and then of course it draws these crowds draws crowds around everybody wants to see this going on go live with it often filming with phones yes going live with it fireworks burnouts revving engines people blocking traffic it's a mess and I don't see how more people don't get hurt by this stuff I'm not sure what they do some of these all these people surrounding these moving cars that let's face it they're probably not you know Mario and Dreddy back there knowing how to handle this car or if they lose control or whatever else but yes it's these car culture enthusiasts community types and social media yeah that has apparently caused these things to explode in popularity so so you said it wasn't you didn't think it was much with big deal remember ever see I don't remember was there was there do you remember any type of policy about how do you handle this type of stuff you just go and break it up even if they did do they tell you to stand in front of the car no probably would not want to do that I mean the video is obviously it's crazy because those because when they're like spending I mean there's people they look mere feet from the cars right and it's not like we're talking about professional drivers right that's what I'm saying I mean that's an expensive hobby I would think I'll tear up your tear tires or something else I don't know must be fun so the other night I was driving home and this guy so you know the overpass that goes between Chisholm Trail to get you back on 20 yeah this guy so when you get on the overpass there's this one part where like a cop can sit has his car like adjacent like parked parallel or something like like like diagonally he is out of the car on the overpass taking pictures of his truck and I was sitting there and I'm like you dumbass yeah like you're trying to die today like almost in the other lane that people are driving 60 on yeah I was like you're trying to die you've got to get that Facebook marketplace listing looking good you know what I mean like somebody would buy this we've lost our friggin minds all right so let's get back to Miss Laura Lee Crane it's a terrible story and that began on the afternoon or we're we're not really sure mid-mid morning of January 30th 2004 she had told her husband that she was gonna go visit a friend and then go to the grocery store do some shopping at a nearby Tom Thumb on Hewland Street in fourth and they her husband expected her home around one or so and she never came home and by four o'clock that afternoon I could imagine that Dread starts to sit in and her family files a missing persons report with fourth police who come out and start checking off their boxes on a signal 51 investigation apparently the responding officer was was so concerned that this wasn't an old lady who had become disillusioned as confused she didn't suffer from any of those symptoms he alerted his superior who got detectives on this almost immediately a lead comes in when we left you last lead comes in from Oklahoma City a police officer there stops a car that his dispatcher says is the car associated with a missing person in fourth he this officer we we decided thinking very well on his feet seems to stall the occupants of that car they he goes and they grant him access I believe to the hotel where they were staying and though they don't find Miss Crane they do find he finds items that leads him to believe they were trying to change their appearance and that's where we picked this up Jake White so Busby offers three reasons all different of course why he was driving lorley Crane's car what do you tell him well so in the late afternoon hours on February 1st 2004 fourth detectives traveled to Oklahoma City to interview Busby and Latimer on the way there one fourth homicide detective spoke with an FBI agent who interviewed Busby that afternoon in Oklahoma Busby told the FBI agent that he had purchased the car for $200 from a man known man known only as JD Busby said he needed the car to get out of town and before he left with his girlfriend he checked the trunk and did not find anything interesting that's a common story or was back in the day we call them the dope loans like they were cars would get reported stolen but these dope fiends would go to the drug dealer and say well yeah you can pull my car just give me 20 bucks yeah or 40 bucks worth of crack and then they would get high and then report your car stolen pretty common pretty common story um the next day February 2nd 2004 fourth homicide detectives meet with Latimer Kathleen Latimer's baby kitty is that what she goes by she provided a bit different of a story Latimer told detectives that Busby and JD this unknown JD guy took a woman's car from a parking lot in West Fort Worth hmm that's what we're talking about this Tom thumb yep detectives then met with Busby who said that yes JD did take the woman's car and he also killed her okay that's but Busby didn't see the body in the car the next day February 3rd 2004 detectives meet with Busby again this time Busby said JD told him he killed a woman and he wanted $1,300 for the car she was driving Busby did not have 1,300 bucks in exchange though in exchange for this car Busby tells police that he agreed to dump the body of Laura Lee Crane so he's changed all his three different stories Busby agreed to take detectives to the location where they could find Laura's body Edward Busby led investigators to an overgrown steep embankment 50 miles north of the Texas border in Murray County Oklahoma the location was interstate 35 near highway 77 across the highway you've got Turner Falls State Park up the road was a YMCA children's camp it was here on the highway on the embankment where investigators discovered the deceased body of Laura Lee Crane Crane was wrapped in a white sheet and her face covered with duct tape the Oklahoma medical examiner arrived and pronounced Laura Lee Crane deceased and it is here where the truth begins to flow what police did not know there were two people at the store at the same store in the late morning hours of January 30th 2004 they were there for ill-gotten gains Edward Busby and Kathleen Latimer went to the store not to buy groceries but to steal beer they were driven to the store by an unknown man once having arrived Busby entered the store with the intent of swiping beer Latimer and the unidentified man stayed in the car at some point Latimer and the son identified man began arguing in the car Latimer Latimer either voluntarily exits the car or she was forced from the car but regardless they're get away they're get away vehicle they're escape mechanism vanished gone without a motive to transportation Latimer goes in the store to tell Busby about the turn of events Busby and Latimer left the store and looked for a way to get back to their motel room in east Fort Worth it was then that they saw the 77 year old Laura Lee Crane and the parking lot her car they decided at once was their method of was their method of escape fact is people like Busby and Latimer they are predators and in this case their their prey was a 77 year old Laura Lee Crane predators indeed so according to news reports Crane was sitting in a car with the door open and looking down as this shit dropped something Busby walked up and said quote man just scoot over all I want is a ride nothing is gonna happen to you Busby sat in the driver's seat and Latimer in the back the three left the grocery store parking lot Latimer rifled through Crane Miss Crane's purse and found 12 bucks in her ATM card Latimer asked for the pin codes which which which Crane provided on the way out of Fort Worth the abductors with their victims stopped at a store somewhere on or near beach street Latimer came out a few minutes later and said the ATM pin code was incorrect according to reports Latimer then struck Crane in the head Busby and Latimer continued in Oklahoma where were they going well initially the two planned a drive to Amarillo we were we've received clues as to why the two had considered Amarillo's a destination Busby had an inglorious pass there I'm assuming his all his pass were inglorious according to trial testimony Amarillo police officer an Amarillo police officer testified that Busby sold them rocks crack rocks right no literally rocks instead of crack cocaine Busby sold the officer literal rocks Jake you're career narcotics have you ever encountered someone trying to sell you rocks yeah that was a that that's an interesting part of the story again I think it's probably changed a little I don't I I guess cracks don't exist I don't think it's anywhere in the same level but um that was common that was pretty common yeah that like you would pull up to dope dealer on the corner yeah now typically these are you know the I mean these aren't some kingpins and they would take your money and go around the quarter and then they become hand you a couple of pebbles uh because what are you know and who knows how often they do this and get away with her or her often they did it and got away with it we had one cell pieces of a styrofoam cup um so at that point you know they haven't broken any laws right because you're buying yeah you're exchanging money for nothing yeah that's what I'm saying there's not really much of a I'm I'm sure somewhere buried deep in the bowels of the criminal law book there perhaps is something I don't know we never mess with it it was more that part was more humorous but for whatever reason unknown reason they ended up in art more Oklahoma and in the parking lot of a lequita and latimer told busby to put duct taped on cranes head out of duct tape busby drove to a local store with cranes still in the trunk and purchased more tape after making that purchase and possibly wrapping cranes head with more tape the two left turn the trunk and went to find drugs they ate at a taco cabana and returned to the motel room for night of drinking the next morning busby and latimer intended to hitchhike to Oklahoma City the car they planned on leaving on the side of the road with cranes body in the trunk however when they opened the trunk before leaving they found crane had died along the way out of footwork busby and latimer made multiple stops at one stop in particular latimer bought a few drinks and a roll of duct tape busby stated that latimer wanted to tape cranes legs and hands but he instead taped her mouth and eyes this however did not stop crane from kicking latimer ordered busby to pull over and open the trunk busby reluctant to do so complied when latimer burned him with a cigarette so now these two are fighting after pulling over a second time it was then he followed latimer's directions and taped the legs and hands of crane busby wrapped almost 26 feet of duct tape around cranes arms and legs the other disturbing information news reports of the trial stated that the duo had stopped at the store to buy a rap CD once back in the car the CD was played and the base on high the reason latimer instructed busby to turn up the base so she could not hear the sounds of crane screaming and kicking in the trunk when busby and latimer were arrested the CD titled or quoted beg for mercy was found in the car when police discovered the body of crane they found that busby wrapped her face in duct tape in 14 layers consisting of 36 feet and two different types of duct tape kind of like you talked about once her face was wrapped Jeffrey Gofft in the Oklahoma medical examiner testified that it took crane less than one minute to die in the trunk of the car the amount of duct tape left no airway for her to breathe according to the medical examiner they were both arrested and returned to fort worth the district attorney charged the pair with capital murder so on November 17 2005 a full over a year and a half after the abduction busby was sentenced to death for capital murder in a jailhouse interview busby said he prayed with crane before wrapping her head in duct tape enforcing her into the into the car trunk of the car he said quote I just want everyone to know that it wasn't my intention for that lady to die I made it where she could breathe I fell asleep I don't I don't know what happened I was up for two days smoking crack why would busby do the things Latimer asked busby was asked and he answered quote when Kathleen asked me to do something I do it I don't ask why I just do it that's how much I love her I've never loved eating by that much no almost two years later on February 6 2006 Latimer pled guilty and was sentenced to life in prison for murder in an interview with Laura Blackwell Simmons of the fourth magazine Latimer said she had quote a lot of responsibility for her role in the death of Laura Lee Crane could this have had a different outcome a source with intimate knowledge of the case and specifically with the search said there was frustration about information being collected specifically or more specifically about information not being collected or shared quickly and what information was that well well the credit card used his store surveillance this is actually source you spoke with Jay stated they believe the video from Tom Thumb was not collected until the day after she was missing if the video showed the abduction as likely the search would have been enhanced or at least refocused factor fiction who knows but the sport the source Jake spoke with vividly remembered the feeling of frustration about that video the other piece of information that seems slow was disseminating or acting on credit card information ultimately the apprehension of buzz being Latimer in 2004 result of a hard working beat cop that cop page it talk about him in Oklahoma City you know in short he he acted on his instincts instincts in cop work most important sense oh yeah yeah I think more and more important than I mean your instinct will actually tell you what yeah not what knowledge you see yeah is relevant and everything else like I said it was his instinct right I mean he did not hit the panic button um you know he he played it off he got into that hotel room on a presumably on a consent to search they found the evidence they just kept working and working and working until we ultimately get to the discovery of lorley crane but I think the one thing that you know that we look at now is and I say all that to the best of my knowledge I don't I don't know I haven't kept up with the story but the Nancy Guthrie case I believe she's still missing she is so I suppose that it that obviously still happens what 22 22 23 years later however for the most part now the technology and we've we've touched on this it's different right I mean lorley lore lore crane's car goes missing today and goes from Fort Worth, Texas to Oklahoma City, Oklahoma yeah she's hidden probably 500 LPR or license plate recognition cameras yeah we're gonna be able to put that timeline together and and and this is immediate too right I mean they're gonna know hey 30 minutes you know the the the responding officer gets there they start researching it and I mean Fort Worth and many other places now have these real-time crime center functions if you will it's kind of a hub if you will of hey we've got this case this is pressing they start digging into it right then and there they're probably gonna know well hey eight minutes ago the car just hidden LPR at you know beach in 121 or wherever they were at yeah they're gonna get on this much much quicker so you've got that like I said you've got the cell phone technology now you know I mean I'm not and by no means an expert on on that but you know clearly the police have the ability to track a cell phone and do so quickly especially in an exigent circumstance case such as this um like I said I mean as a whole it's different but then again when we still talk about you know we're dealing with the the present with Nancy Guthrie and her disappearance I mean maybe the police have some of this in Arizona that they're not releasing and there may be a reason why or maybe they don't right I just know that here if this were to happen again it's got a I'm not saying the outcome is going to be different but the response is gonna be different it's gonna be probably solved a lot quicker yeah I can guarantee you Oklahoma's covered up in LPR cameras yeah worth is covered up in LPR cameras um like I said the cell phone technology and the list goes on well you mentioned as far as that Guthrie case is concerned you you'd you'd mentioned before another stuff about how how clustered some of these things can get when when you have dual law enforcement agencies trying to work a case or because they can't get out of their way for whatever reason um or the quality of investigators that we see in some of these jurisdictions like maybe a sheriff's office it doesn't handle yeah yeah that way I think there's a couple things I what's that county Pima County I think so yeah that's a big that's a big outfit that's a big agency yeah so I don't I don't want to use the term quality as it applies to any individuals or any individual detectives or anything like that but I think one other thing that we look at now is politics has taken deep root into police work yeah right perhaps it always has been there I don't know but it definitely is now you so you have this um you know pilfering of police pensions as an example um that's impacting roles boots on the ground that's starting to impact that like we talked about you're this idea of like career detectives is well on its way of being a thing of the past um maybe already is a thing of the past probably meaning these detectives even if they go into it and say hey I want to be a homicide investigator for the rest of my career yeah we have that here for a year oh yeah we we still have a few left they are the best of the best right but that's going away yeah I mean with those old guys we had some guys that were around for 50 years is detectives oh yeah way back yeah yeah back in the day back in the days forties before the new but what happens is this is you start looking this is where the experience and again I don't I don't correlate the tenure and experience of of someone often but when you start getting into very detailed um or thorough investigations sometimes those do intersect right like it may be better if you're if you've investigated 15 or 20 murders a year versus if you investigate 15 or 20 over a 10-year period your experience is going to be different right um the other thing is like I said going back to the 10-year part of it and what I mean by that is is you know you could you could take a three-year cop who sits under the shade tree and and doesn't learn to be proactive doesn't learn how to solve crimes and then you could take a three-year cop who never sits still and is constantly on the go that three-year cop who's constantly doing things his experience is significantly different and sure probably not equatable to three years it's he's been further advanced sees more experiences more experiences more but the same thing like with these detectives now and and maybe this is maybe this is a thing with the gothric case I don't know I don't know anybody in Pima County Arizona but I is it possible that they've got a unit because of what I'll call political reasons maybe it's not truly political it just seems like everything goes that way in this world now maybe they're inexperienced maybe or maybe they're not maybe they're very experienced and there is zero evidence just saying it is a possibility on why we're still hearing about that on the news yeah why that hasn't been solved I mean again the technology in and of itself think it would be if that happened here if Lorley Crane got kidnapped from Tom Thumb at 3050 human street in Fort Worth, Texas today at 11 30 in the morning at 11 30 in the morning they're gonna police are gonna know and especially with her car being gone they're gonna know within five minutes oh hey she's passed four-flot cameras and within a couple of hours they're probably up already finding her phone yeah you know the pangs and whatever else it you know it was different then I was so again like I said obviously the source we talked to was frustrated I mean and I you know that that particular source too is very very much a go getter as I would describe as a cop a very very good police officer in Fort Worth yeah oh yeah yeah so yeah I mean so like I said I mean tragedy for sure but why why this case now yeah so it's relevant it's relevant now not just because of the get-through thing but we have news about Edward Busby's schedule to be executed on May 14th of this year yeah so we'll keep it close I mean I don't know if there'll be any stays or anything like that I'm sure there'll be more appeals etc but as it stands now he is set for set to be executed on May 14th of 2026 now one other thing this is interesting they talk about the you know so they're in the Tom Thumb grocery store I'll just go ahead and say they're both dope fame drug addicts yeah we used to just call them crackheads back in the name yeah I had a run-in with one in Fort Worth just a mere couple of weeks ago so this is on the heels of a trip to New York New York City New York City New Socialist Mecca of that's what they say I Western world Manhattan I think will always be Manhattan frankly I mean they're gonna start losing some capital well we'll see if that comes to fruition I don't know I don't follow that part of it enough I just know that you know we frankly probably have to go up to that area more than the average yeah to see someone and going up there this is on the heels of their new mayor whatever his name is gets elected you know it people down here like oh man ma'am Donnie I think is isn't it's gonna be it's gonna be bad up there I'm like man hat like there's no way and so we go up there and we go we do all the New York stuff right you know you're on the train you're on the buses you're walking around everywhere not once that I run into anything that I would consider a problem outside of the blizzard no pick pockets no pick pockets nothing other sorts yeah um we had the blizzard got stuck up there a few extra days came back two foot ortexas on Tuesday evening and had to run and get something that night that I needed the next morning size project do the next day it was a little bit of a project day the next day and so I had to quickly scramble and so I stopped at that gas station I used to always see you add on carefully I'm not gonna name it but it's one of the big ones I go there to get ice I thought you gave that up once you found the ice machine I did I used to go there to get ice that's still a funny story how you found the ice machine so you just stop going there the ice machines are the greatest it's it's important you didn't nugget one yeah yeah I don't well what the sonic ice we call that I don't like I don't I get the other ice the cubed ice you're the only blast for me that is blast yeah I've never heard of anyone who prefers that but so I pull into this gas station it's 9 30 at night whatever and I'm getting out of the car with my phone rings so I I'm putting my keys up I have the pose phone to my ear through my shoulder yeah as I'm putting my keys in my pocket and I hear someone hey you got a dollar and I looked and it's some crack head girl I said I'm on the phone and she's like well I've had a real shitty day and I said well it's pretty rude to interrupt people when they're on the phone and she says f you what this is the same woman I ran into and so I walk inside and I just kind of laugh and I'm inside for 30 seconds 45 seconds and I come back out to my car and as I'm getting in it that crackhead stroll skits and out just so ridiculous comes up and says you off the phone asshole and I laugh how you literally just laugh and so I put my car in reverse and I'm going to pull out and she drops an f bomb or five gotta be the same woman I ran into blonde hair just hideous yes and she goes to kick my car withs because she's some deranged crackhead has no yeah coordination whatsoever but just a wretched woman I say that to say you know I go off on my tangents about our lookout fine city lookout and man I mean again this is one of those cases where it's when you see somebody out and about that looks like their trouble they probably are right not morally crane did not have the fortunate opportunity to see these people that we know of he sneaks up on them yeah or on her look like she was digging for something she had lost or something I mean we've had this happen at the local watering hole I call it a ghost experience there's been several times you've been present where we're enjoying a couple beverages of the adult variety yeah yeah may have partaken in several rounds of these beverages one likely there was one times several months ago as like I said it's like a ghost man out of nowhere they got that little rail yeah and next thing you know you don't see them coming you don't hear them coming they just appear right hey can I have a cigarette right like what the fuck would you come from jeez how'd you come pretty astute with my surroundings here you just magically appeared but it's going off the rails man well it's going off the rails that is your homeless unhoused house list is another one that I heard unhoused commentary from retired sergeant Jake White well it's not it's not commentary it's do something about it right I mean how is it dare you say that the problem did this problem like I call it a problem issue I don't know if it did it exist on camp buoy ten years ago oh I suspect it did I don't remember anywhere at this level I don't know honestly I don't remember it's always it's always been a part of my being I've seen it my entire life nowhere near I don't know I can't tell you I don't know I can tell you I don't know you might be right the one I the skin cancer Sam the guy this at the at the inner the one we always see that clearly is looks like chaka oh oh you're talking about the gal well no then her that's another one well though yeah I mean those those people are right I severely mentally ill or addicted or both or whatever but I what I don't know is where they come from because like you'll see you'll see the same people like all the time our girl yeah that guy the skin they're all red beat red guy yeah yeah and then you know there's an African American lady that's just you know up and down I'm sure you see she's now she she we call her alley cat she's been around for decades okay she's been around but she was like one of the only I don't know you know you you you've been on the streets I as a as a as a law enforcement officer I I couldn't tell you but it's always been I mean you know Jesus Christ was dealing with these people two thousand years ago yeah so I mean they've always been around they have been around I'm not arguing that I that part I agree but what I mean it might be I mean and if it is I mean what why I would attribute it to mental illness and addiction more of it oh no I'm not saying what the what the cause I mean I yeah I mean there's a number of factors I'm seeing you know what else they got rid of yeah I know where you're going with this you got rid of sanitariums and they did and psych houses yeah and so all these people are amongst that suppose they're doing something about that bringing those back well all I know is I spent four or five days in the big apple where people down here were telling me to watch out be careful then I come here and I'm here for 30 minutes and I get did you did you throw out there that you're from Texas or did you know I'm saying like people I talk to here I know I'm talking about when you're up there no no see next time we're a Texas shirt and see what happens yeah I think I'd be I mean I saw tons of people from not tons but handfuls of people well New York's funny you know you're on the street no one talks to work to you you go to a bar yeah this friend list could be yeah that's what I mean that was the experience I mean we've got cool tours of like pretty cool hotel yeah yeah but then you come here like I said man I mean here for 30 minutes and freaking get abducted by dirty mic in the boys or something is what almost happened I'm like well I thought it was bad there so I don't know just my rant for the day on that stuff because it drives me nuts that the problem has only gotten worse and I don't care if it's gotten worse anywhere else besides where I live I mean I don't mean that in a literal sense but you know that's it's what impacts us and I don't know we need to check that out we need to do some research is it worse today than it was 25 years ago one without question well these idiots Edward Busby and Kitty Latimer indeed robbed the city a very kind impactful woman I did Laura Lee Crane was the director emeritus of star point school at TCU and according to her obituary she grew up here graduate from Paschal High School she received a flying arts degree from Sweet Briar College and a master's from TCU according to her obit and I'm quoting now this is her entire career was devoted to children with learning disabilities and special needs she authored a nationally recognized reading program for learning disabled students she served on the founding faculty of star point school and for over 20 years she was his director her community work has included board membership of the assembly footworth women's club and the fourth junior league so we can only pray that Miss Crane rests in peace from idiots like Edward Busby and Kathleen Kitty Latimer and as you mentioned oh Edward Busby we'll be going to the lethal injection gurney in May I don't know if that's I tend to think that's a easy way out because state prison system is just pure hell never been there but anyway okay that's the law and that's where he'll be going so audios Edward Busby who will not get a last meal because we don't do those in Texas we don't do those anymore so that is the conclusion of vanished and brought daylight the tragedy of Miss Laura Lee Crane thank you for joining us do not forget to spread the word about the signal 51 Chronicles subscribe hit like share tell everybody your class reunion your family reunion your your lunch at Lubies or Angelo's or wherever else so until next time see you this is a stolen water media production