Miami F1 Madness: From Safety Cars to Pit Strategy | CY Returns to Explain the Chaos

This is Beer thirty Sports O'clock and we are humbled, blessed with a guest, a friend of the show, second time around because you guys should know if you follow me on beer thirty sports o'clock on Instagram, TikTok, I was in Miami again and it was for Formula One. So I brought my only friend who I think knows anything about Formula One it's sad. I'm like, man, I wanna learn about this sport and I'm asking people and nobody knows about this sport. So CY aka is who I, you know, I always call her, Christina Yebra. Did I say that right? Christiana, you're so close. No. Shit. You're so close. I'm sorry. I'm jet lagged. I just maybe jet lagged from your from your one hour time difference. Yeah. That resonates. That resonates. No. Well, first of all, it was a party. You know, in Miami, it's a party. Like, it was an absolute party. That's what I said. That's why I wanna bring you on to kinda, like, explain what the hell I was watching because I didn't you know, after a few Miami margaritas, things got a little fuzzy, and then we're the fifty seventh lap, and I'm like, wait. What happened to the tenth lap? And yeah. So can you I'm sorry. See why I tell them where they can find you and all that good stuff first before we get into that if if they don't know. You can find me mostly share sharing my sports shenanigans on Instagram, and that's just my first and last name, which is Christiana Yebra. Very long and annoying or CY. I wish that I could have just the CY handle, that would be easier. There's just too many letters in my name and you would be shocked to know that my actual middle name is Margarita. So God forbid, my first, middle and last name are needing to be somewhere because three chances to screw it up. Cristiano, Yebro, on all your favorite social channels. I don't think I'll forget that now. Martin No. You won't you won't forget it. You won't forget it. I'm not for my grandmother. Yeah. So alright. So what exactly is Formula One? Like, what what is the difference between the other style racing? Like, explain. What, like yeah. Why is I know why it's getting in popularity because literally they're the quote unquote, some of the most handsome drivers on the road and things like that. You know? But what is for the common dummy like myself, what is Formula One racing? What is what is it? Well, you've you've probably been hearing about it more in the last five years than you have maybe prior to that. If you're not if you're not familiar with the sport, I would be shocked and surprised if you've not at least heard a little bit about f one in the last couple of years. Drive to Survive was the show that came out. I call it like the hard knocks for for motor sports where it shows you the drama of these teams and these drivers and it really hooked American fans in a way. This is a global sport. It's more popular everywhere else and The US is a little bit behind on that. And so if you if you I would I would bet you if I could virtually that pretty much everyone's heard of Formula One but it's very easy for these sports to get confused. So motor sports is a category. Right? Like, you're on wheels. Right. That's motor But there's so many sub series and types of cars and like leagues within that it's different. The and the basis of the differences is is the actual car structure itself. So, like, a lot of people could recognize a NASCAR vehicle. Right? Like, from the cup series. Pretty much, we've seen we've seen them. Pretty pretty undeniable that that's a NASCAR. But then there's a little bit more confusion that happens between Formula one and IndyCar because they look somewhat similar. They're not fully enclosed, in the same way than a NASCAR. NASCAR, you know, a stock car kind of looks like a regular car but beefed up. Right. F one and anti car are not are not that way. They're meant to go pretty freaking fast. And so the aerodynamics of these vehicles is different largely because of the structure of the cars. Right. There's a lot of history across all of these sports, and and you'll find, like, the further you dive into it, there's a lot more crossover between them than you'd than you'd expect, whether that's from drivers or sponsors or the engines themselves. Like, they're all learning from each other. In fact, like, I think maybe I talked about this the last time is the, you know, Formula One cars are hybrid. And the way that they're learning how to harvest energy is is actually training the people who make hybrid vehicles for us to drive. It's giving them a lot of insight on how to power a hybrid or battery powered vehicle. Not to throw a wrench in all of this, but there's also a formula e category, which is all electric formula one car or they look like formula one cars, but they're all electric. Just imagine the sound is very distinctly It's like distinctly different. We we we we we we Yeah. It's like this, like it's kinda like a versus the the sound of an engine. That's crazy. But they're but they're really different. So I'll I'll zero in on on f one. Lot of history to the sport. The cars have evolved quite a bit, but I'll tell you why you're kind of like, what the hell is going on? Even if you've known a Formula one, this year is very different for a reason. 2026 is like a total refresh to the sport in a couple of different ways. So, like, even if last year you went to the Miami Grand Prix, this year, the grid itself, like, literally the amount of cars lined up is different. There are multiple new teams on the track. And on top of that, there is a incredible shift in the regulations that they were provided for this year. So basically, the way the teams are instructed to design these cars is entirely different than the cars we saw for the last four years and the last the four years prior to that. So this is the biggest, arguably, probably the biggest shift in regulations in cars in several decades. So I'm not don't feel bad. Do not feel bad that you have feeling you're like feeling like what on earth is happening? Because literally, if you were a fan last year and you were really trying to learn the sport, this year is just radically different. So it's really, really hard to compare the two and feel like you're in the same feel like you're in a whole different setting. And literally, there's just more I mean, even just at the basic, there's two more cars on the track. So it's a little bit more crowded. That was my other question. So like the they have a team. Right? They have like Cadillac, Ferrari Right. McLaren. They there's two drivers on the track each time for both or the team or whatever. Why is that? And do are you racing against technically your own teammate? Or, like, you just y'all are trying to get points to get further along? Like, how does that like, yeah. So how does that work? Yeah. So I'll start with this. In Formula one, there are two championships that are happening side by side. There's a driver's championship. So the driver who has the most points will win the f one championship. Well, you'll be the world champion for for that time frame, right, for that season. And that's calculated by points. The constructors championship is the same thing calculated by points, but it's the combination of the two drivers on track. So someone could technically win the drivers, championship, but not win the constructors. Right? Like, might have a teammate. This happened to Max Verstappen last year. He was doing really quite well. He didn't he didn't win the, drivers championship, but he was on pace to potentially win the drivers championship. There was no way in hell he was gonna win the constructors because his teammate changed multiple times last season and they just could not deliver. So he's carrying his team on his back. So there was a there was a shot there. Last season ended in almost a three way tie. There are three drivers headed into the final race, which hasn't happened since I think like 2016, where it really came down to that last race and the last amount of points to determine which driver would win. So there's two championships having happening at the same time. Okay. What a constructor's championship and a driver's championship means for a win is is financial. It means dollars into their account to invest in the better driver, better cars, better tech, bigger factories, whatever it is. So you want to win naturally. Right? These are these are athletes. They want to win, but there's a massive, massive difference in the prize. I don't even know what the full prize is this year, but it gets bigger and bigger every year. You want to win both because you unlock you unlock so much so much more. It's not I mean, that's not unlike really any championship. Right? Like, you get the media, you get the press, you get sponsors, you get more eyes, you got more logos. Like, it makes sense. So Yeah. So in that sense, like, they they get so essentially, like, let's say what was his name? Ves Vespin? I saw him Verssappen? Verssappen. Thank you. Yeah. You already probably noticed. Oh, I proved this earlier. I'm butchered. I'm bad at names. But It's okay. They have some weird they have some funky names, so you're fine. So he can win the driver's championship, unlock his own solo thing, but then the construction or construct championship or whatever the case may be, the team does not win it. So, like, does that I mean, obviously, everybody gets paid because this is a sport. This is a high this is a high income sport too. This is not a Right. Like, everybody balling in this sport. But Yes. The, so the the construct championship, somebody else's team can win it as long as they finish in, like, what, the top five, top three every time, or is it, like, just a random amount of things? Does it crash count? Does not you know what I mean? Like Yeah. You know? Well, so okay. Let's let's talk about your Miami race as an example. And I'll talk a little bit how the teams like, when you've got two drivers on track, it's it's beneficial for them to both finish the race and get and compete in the points. The only the top 10 cars score points. And you were even you were also part of a even weirder weekend, which we haven't even talked about. It's a sprint weekend. I'll talk about that later. Like, that adds something different. That's relatively new to the sport. So don't don't worry. Everyone's fine. Everyone relax. Must have had no idea what what You're like, wait. Why are we racing on Saturday? What's happening? I know. What's so funny to me is that you were actually at the race, and my bitch ass is at home, not at the race. Even though I have even though I have all this knowledge, I'm watching from my couch and you're at the race. Like I'm just a bimbo with a with a Amex. Don't worry about it. Okay. So let's talk about Miami for an example. You want to win obviously, everyone wants to win the race. You wanna maximize the amount of points. Only the top 10 cars will get those points and it starts think it's 25 each race and then it goes down from there. So you definitely wanna win, for for the biggest boost in in points. However, you can get points all the way down to to tenth place. So it's beneficial to finish the race and then finish in top 10. If you do not start the race for some reason, sometimes cars can't start the race because, I mean, you saw this, I can't even remember, I don't know if it was the last race, the race before, but Oscar Piastri, one of the McLaren guys, crashes on the formation, like or, like, practice lap that they do before the formation lap doesn't So even start the when you look at the results for the race, it says DNS, which is do not did not start. Do not start. Mhmm. Then there's the DNF, which is did not finish, which is brutal, especially if it's two of the cars from the same constructor to not finish, which happens all the time. Oh, okay. Brutal, brutal, like, blow to points. Right? So you definitely want both teams or both drivers and the points. Last the last two years, there has been I mean, really with every team, there's an internal dynamic where really whether they say it or not, there's there's driver number one. And that means they get a preference on pit stop strategy. They might get, you know, benefits to strategy within the race. Like, if they're in a position where they can maximize points for the team and they they have a better pace, sometimes the the engineers or the the the people inside of their ears on the on the teams will say, you gotta let this guy pass. Like, you're leading, but you're gonna let so and so go ahead of you because they're better positioned. So the McLaren cars, let's talk about that for an example. Got two drivers. You might have heard a phrase called the papaya rules. And the papaya rules are a set of instructions that were given to these guys around like, hey, look, we know you both want to win. We've got fast cars this year. We both want you in a position to score as many points as possible. Do not take each other out, rule number one. And rule number two, if we make the call that, let's say Oscar's faster than Lando, you're gonna have to listen up and you're gonna have to trade positions or give up a whatever it is. Whatever the instructions are because we're all here trying to maximize as many points as we can. Sometimes the guys get a little they get a little sassy with it where they're like, no. I wanna no. I'm leading the race. He had a bad pit stop. Like, I'm not gonna give this I'm not gonna give this up. And they'll wait until the last second. I mean, were a couple times where Lando and Oscar had give been given instructions, and both of them were pretty slow to make the move that they were being asked to do. And Lando I think Lando's the sassier one. He won the drivers, championship last year. But, man, there's been some several times where, like, I really I really I can't even watch American Idol because I struggle with secondhand embarrassment very hard. There was a point in the race one time where, like, Lando's not giving up a spot. I'm like, I am internally cannot I cannot watch this because it was so bad. They're like, don't make this awkward. You're making this weird. We're gonna let you, you know, like, you've you've got a great shot to win. However, like, you're making this awkward because you're not being a team player. And so the papaya rules are not unlike what other teams have a strategy. And whether they say again, whether they say it or not, there is always a preference towards one of the drivers, and they get kind of first dibs or preference, you know, on on some of the resources and, again, some of that strategy. But the the I mean, it's really not comp it's it's pure math. It's like, hey. Get as many points as possible. Do not do anything that would jeopardize the vehicles in any, you know, capacity. Don't take each other out because sometimes they do. We've seen that, we've seen that between the McLarens took each other out several times. We've seen that between multiple vehicles. And you saw this at at Miami where Isaac Hajar, one of the is a Red Bull driver. Like Red Bull. You saw him crash and get really frustrated with this himself. He took himself out. That was not it didn't look like he had contact. It was kinda hard to tell. On the Apple TV broadcast has been very interesting where, like, it feels a little different than what I'm used to with the other broadcast. So, like, I missed a couple of big crashes. Like, I didn't see Ghazli flip over. Where were you wait. Okay. Let hold on. Let me start over. Where were you sitting so I can understand Alright. What visuals you had? What turn were you at? Let's let's talk to Humble Flex right quick. Alright. So Okay. For the main race because I Saturday, I didn't go. Saturday, I I I flew in Saturday night. So I didn't I didn't go to Saturday. So Sunday, you know, they pushed everything up because Yes. Rain. Rain. It started, like, I mean Yes. Yes. By, like, 09:00, it was like a I felt like a hurricane. It looked It looked dark. Yeah. It was like it felt like a hurricane was coming through. Mhmm. So, anyway, we sat beach stand, which was I purposely did it because there's like a it was like a party going on literally across the track. And Yeah. Apparently, that's we were in the spot where we could see them coming and behind us with the highway, you know, where it curves or whatever before they get to the highway, you know, what are parallel to the highway. So we were able to see them, like, maneuver on the curve or the turn, I guess is what they're saying. But my I'm trying to think of what turn it was. I don't know which turn it was, but it was the beach stand. I'll say that. It was the beach stand. I think it was like 14. Actually, it was 14 Cause it was we were in we were in Section 14, northbound 14, and the beach stand was on Turn 14. So we were North 14. I wanted to get Turn 18 because I've heard Turn 18 was like incredible and all this stuff like that. It's either next time I'm either getting Turn 18, start line, or finish line, period point blank. Yeah. Period point blank. Because Not not Yeah. Like, it's you could see I wanna see the start, I wanna see who wins. It was cool because they had TVs everywhere kinda set up and you could see like what was going on. I did see the crash though. The crash and flip like we saw we were watching one person come through and then as you look up on the screen, you seeing, oh boy flip and get clipped. So that's gonna be my other question. I saw somebody got a penalty for that flip, for that they clipped him and they who was it that got the penalty? Oh my god. It wasn't McLaren. It was was it McLaren? Oh, for Gosley's flip over? It might have been the r b I I don't know. Well, we'll we'll talk let's talk about that. Like, there are several penalties that can happen on the track. Sometimes decisions are made in those moments. The there's somebody that they'll send it say like, the stewards are looking at this. So in real time, they can say there is this moment where there is a collision. I think at one point, Lewis Hamilton and Franco Colapinto touched each other and they were that was under review. They wanted to see like, did somebody cause this? If so, we can we can push a penalty to that person. And sometimes those things are crucial. They can change they can change the whole dynamic of a race because as you guys know, like, in qualifying, the difference between first place and last place is is seconds. Like and and sometimes it's sub one second. Yeah. In a race, there's can sometimes be a much larger discrepancy, but it's really down to, like, milliseconds are what really make this race or, I mean, this sport what it is. These cars are so fast that that is really like a key difference. So when a penalty happens, sometimes they have to serve the penalty. Like, they'll be handed a penalty in the race as an example. If they push someone off track and that causes them to have a wreck or allow you know, pushes them unsafely off the track, penalty. If someone leaves the track, you saw this actually happen. This is an example of a penalty be given after the fact, which is kind of interesting, is Leclerc had a lot of time where I was like, why is my guy off the track so often? It felt like he was, like, really spending a lot of time out of track limits, which is its own penalty. Like, when you go your your whole entire car is over a certain line, you get flagged. So and in qualifying, your lap might not even count if that's the case. So leaving the track and gaining a position. Let's say you got pushed off, but you come back and you sweep in in front of four cars because you don't have that traffic. You have to give those you have to give those positions back or you get a penalty. Sometimes it can be five seconds, sometimes it can be ten seconds. But the difference again, between that top 10, that can take someone from first place to tenth place like and and they can serve it at either their hand, like, it's added on top of their time or they have to serve it inside of the pit stop. So like example, if I don't whoever hit Gasly needed to have a was given a penalty. They go serve that inside of a pit stop and say, okay, you got a hole. You can't touch the car for ten seconds or five seconds depending on like the severity of it. And then they're allowed to do the pit stop. So that causes I mean, a pit stop without a safety car, which you saw you saw a safety car in in that race, you lose twenty plus seconds because of driving into the pit lane, cars change. This pit stop is the fastest part of it. It could be 2.8 or two second. There were a couple like one point nines last season, I think were some of the faster ones, but it's getting in and out of the pit lane. Yeah, the penalties are very interesting. I was gonna say, so on the pace car, so that wasn't that was see, I was I'm glad you're bringing this up. You're bringing all this up. So I'm being told that Lawson was the one that actually hit. Okay. So it wasn't RB. Yeah. Yeah. So Lawson is the one that hit, and he did get a penalty. I saw or he didn't get a penalty for the hit. Because he suffered a gear a gearbox failure because of the hit. So he got no penalty. Then I don't know if that was we're gonna I'm gonna double check this. But, anyway, back to, pit stops. You mentioned pit stops being really fast and everything like that. So well, let me backtrack. Safety car, yellow flag and all that stuff like that. Do they count those laps? Because I could've swore those that lap that, I keep forgetting the Red Bull driver's name. I apologize. But he got he got Has a car. Yeah. Has a when he got flipped, the yellow flag came out, right, and everybody started going slow behind the safety car and everything. And I was like, well, these laps aren't gonna count. I'm that's what I'm thinking. Next thing I know Mhmm. It's it went from seven to 10, and I was like, wait. They are counting. So how does that work and like what what determines because I mean, because he was off of the track, is that why it was yellow instead of like everybody go to the pit or everybody get off the track because it's not you know what I mean? Like, how does that work with crashes and things like that? Oh, Ziggy. Let me tell you about the the challenge that is a safety car. You know, okay. So I won't go too far into my personal experiences with safety cars ruining my life for a season. But let's start here. So when and just think about these cars are going 200 plus miles an hour on the street. They're going a 100 miles an hour plus miles on a turn. Like there's a lot of speed. Obviously, inherently dangerous. Dangerous for the cars that are moving, but incredibly dangerous for cars that are stopped. So if there's an issue and someone has a puncture on their tyre or they lose their brakes or the engine blows or something happened, whatever it's a power unit issue, whatever it is, and they get stuck on the track. Depending on where they are, it's basically like it's basically like if there's a wreck on the tollway. There's not a lot of you don't really have a huge shoulder, right, on the Dallas North Tollway. Right? We don't have a huge shoulder. So if that's the case, what do you see when there's a big wreck is those cars come out, they block a lane, they got people moving over to the left hand side because it's unsafe for people to be driving on that right hand side, right, or whatever side it is. Same energy here where it's like if a car stopped and they're anywhere near where these cars are going fast, at the least a yellow flag will come out to kind of slow everything down. It kind of neutralizes the race. So you can't you can't go faster than the person. There's no overtaking. Right? You have to stay within you can still go pretty fast, but you still have to be mindful of the yellow flags. A safety car will deep or a virtual safety car sometimes, it depends, will be deployed if they need to go get a crane and they need to go drive the car out, which in the case of Pierre, you know, getting flipped over or Hadro where he was stuck out or whoever whoever gets stuck. A safety car will come out, and a safety car neutralizes the race, truly. You can't go further than the safety car. You gotta follow the safety car. And now they're going pretty fast. Like, the professional drivers who have to drive the safety cars because they have to maintain pace to keep warmth in the tires, but it'll neutralize the race. The benefit to that is if you're way the fucking back, you get time to Knock knock knock knock knock Yeah. Because that's what happened to the other Red Bull the other Red Bull driver. I feel like he kinda snuck up soon as that safety car and the yellow flag dropped. The other starts with a no. Is this the v? The v guy? Red Bull jumped from like the the first guy wrecked. Right? And then the other guy jumped from I think it was Red Bull. He jumped from like Yes. Okay. I know what you're know what you're talking about. And I was like, damn. Where did he come from? Because he jumped right after the safety car. Go ahead. Very, very important. Very important. So remember when I said in a pit stop sorry. I'm I'm sweating. I'm so excited about this. I wish that I could have been in your ear telling you exactly what was I'm the new Siri. Like, hey, CY. Why are we pitting now and not later? So okay. Remember when I said a pit stop cost you twenty plus seconds depending on how fast you can go? Under a safety car, you don't lose as much time because the cars can't go as fast the rest of the track. So you're not they're not zooming by you. They're going pretty slow. So in the case of Miami, this is a very again, you picked, like, the most complicated race, I feel, like, of the year so far to attend, where it was like, is it gonna rain? Is it not gonna rain? There are three compound tire types, but then there's tires that you would trade into for wet. And then there's, like, this intermediate where you could change where it's, like, it's kinda wet, but it's not. We can't go full slick. Like, so there's multiple tire types. Max Verstappen, I'm pretty sure you're referring to, who pit, I think while the safety car came out, no one else did. So he takes an early pit stop and you're like, why is this guy doing this? He's gonna drop to the eighteenth place. What's going on? He did that because he assumed and someone in his ear is saying, I think they thought rain was coming, but we think it's not. So we're gonna put you on a hard tire and you're gonna roll this thing out as you're not gonna stop again. And that was just a gamble that they took and it paid off really quite nicely until the very end. So that's called I guess this wouldn't really exactly be an undercut. But an undercut strategy is really saying like, I'm gonna pit early. I'm gonna bank on the potential for another safety car or for the fact that maybe somebody else isn't pitting at the same strategy. And it allows you to get further ahead and somebody might pit late and caught Ferrari has struggled I'll I'll tell you this. Ferrari has struggled with their pit stop strategies for a while. Like, they have, in this season actually, have decided, like, to stay out at weird times, to go in at weird times. Leclerc in this race, you might have I don't know if you were listening to any of the radios, but he said, I'm in this car too. Please consult me the next time you ask me to come in. Isn't there rain coming? And they ended up not being, but he felt excluded from the decision to be made to pit. And so they're being instructed to do certain things. Now they can agree or not. But one thing you don't wanna do is pit and not tell your team you're coming into pit because they have to be ready with the tires. Right? Right. So max max pit early, and it was a there's tire strategies you can take. There are no rules about the amount of pit stops you have to take. There's some actually, I lied. There are some races where you do have to pit a certain amount of times, but the general consensus is that you need to have two different tire compounds. So that that really means you need to have at one at least one pit stop. One pit So in this case, there was no requirement that they need to pit multiple times, but they do need to change tire compounds. So naturally, you have to pit at least once. I think everyone kinda thought, like, is the rain coming? Is it not? We're not really sure. There were, like, little cells here and there. Like, I don't know. It's sprinkling, but never enough to warrant changing the tires, which I think actually was a pretty good call on the team to change the time because driving in the rain, it's not like NASCAR. NASCAR won't move cars if there's water on the track. It's just too slick. Mhmm. F one will say, we're gonna do it until it's incredibly too dangerous, and then they'll red flag the race. That's that's another flag that you might see is a red flag will literally stop the race, and the drivers have to go back to the pit pit lane, and they they hang out there. So with the in the case of a really bad wreck or a fire or somebody is really hurt, they'll red flag the race, and they'll have a restart moment. Everybody yeah. So everybody will go to their pits, their respective pits, and everything like that. Correct. So when you mentioned, like, sprint weekend, what does that what does that mean? What does that entail? Because like yeah. Like, I was like, well because we we were confused too because there was so much going on on the track the whole weekend. Mhmm. And I was like, damn. I'm not gonna be able to make it. I I was like, I didn't know they raced more than one day. But you know what I'm saying? Like yes. So it's like Why don't we do this FAQ session before you go all the way to Miami without consulting me? You're f one strategist. I can't I'm your pit crew chief. Okay? You have to contact me. Gosh. Really should have been it was so embarrassing because she was like, you don't know shit about this. And I'm like, yo. This is our I'm about to steal your girl. Okay? That's what's gonna happen. Okay. The pit okay. Sprint weekends are relatively new. I thought let's they were like incubating an idea. I I thought this was something they would try out and we wouldn't see again. I was incorrect. A sprint weekend essentially provides a mini race on Saturday. So instead of having multiple practice sessions like they typically do, on a sprint weekend like you saw this weekend, they have one practice session, sprint qualifying, the sprint race, race qualifying, and then the race. There is no other practice time frames between that. Pros and cons, if you're really fucking good and fast like Max Verstappen was a couple of years, you win both the race and you get your points there and then you get sprint race points as well. So he was just stacking freaking points left and right. At the time, I was not a fan because I was like, this dude. I was like, no one else is winning races. Was like no And I was like, this is yeah. I was like, okay. So we're just gonna let this guy double dip. Alright. So at first I wasn't a fan. Then then no. Max doesn't win a sprint race that I thought he would. Lewis Hamilton wins. And I said, I think that I'm starting to like the sprint races. I was like, okay. It was when his first year with Fry, I was like, I think I think I'm starting to like the sprint races. So it's just like a mini race between it's it's it's not every location. I think it was two things were happening. One, f one said more people are watching the sprint races than they are a regular practice session. Like, yeah, of course, because it's a race. Like, we wanna see real action and real, you know, competition. I think it's another time to provide sponsorable assets for the league. There's more visibility for brands and sponsors. So why not charge more because there's more t TV time, more eyes on screen. I also think there's, like, a part that is self serving to the teams because they can collect a light a lot of data. So, like, they can test out their tire strategy. They can get a feel for the track in real time. Like, what is the real speed? How are our tires, tire you might have heard tire deg, which is degradation, which is, like, how fast these tires fall apart, which I don't know if you could see on the track, but you'll see all the pebbles. And that's the tire literally disintegrating in front of your eyes because they're going so fast. And, so I think it's a data collection time as well. And, the telemetry on these cars is unbelievable. The amount of sensors and the numbers that come off of these cars makes it really a sci a running science project. They're the most advanced machines, you know, doing crazy things in real time and and and real data is being pulled off of them and being reviewed in real time by hundreds of people in a factory in The UK while the race is happening. They're they're ingesting that information and making decisions, and it's informing them for what they're gonna do next and providing a lot of historical data. So I think this sprint weekend is really a commercial play with a little bit of data. So Yeah. It always it always leads back to the money. Yeah. No. I mean, there's nothing wrong. We we want more racing, and they're giving us more racing. And Mhmm. It's it's very we yeah. We want more, and it and it makes more it makes sense. Plus, they can study the the other drivers and how, like, let's say, for instance, you mentioned, somebody switching drivers every like, every few races or whatever the case may be. Now you can learn that new driver that's that just joined Red Bull or McLaren or whatever the case may be. So really quick, we're gonna step back to the first episode when you first joined me. For those that don't know, CY has is an entrepreneur of entrepreneurial spirit. Everyone should follow her because she does amazing things. She's in front of the Starz Stadium. Go Starz. Maybe next season. The Star's IP. Sorry about that. Maybe next you know what? I I did a show the I did a show the other day, and I was like, am I morphing into what Cowboys player or Cowboys fans feel like? Where, like, every year I'm like, this is it. Is our year. This is our year. And we we them boys. And then it's like, oh, no. We are not them boys. Perhaps we're not the boys. And then I'm right back to just looking like a scrub. You know? But, hey, I say at least we make the play at least we make the playoffs consistently. I'll say that. I've pressed brought all that up to say I've brought all that my producer says, I have no faith I gave up. So I brought all that up to say, like, you, give him a little background of your gambling or a system that you created for gambling? Let let's say it like that. I don't I don't I don't wanna mince words. I've already screwed up your name already. Sure. So, the cool part of my the last couple of years of my journey is that I haven't had to be the smartest person in the room. And I've worked with some really talented engineers who spent years creating machine learning and supercomputers and leveraging AI before AI was a, you know, a household term that we all know know and understand. And so I spent five almost five years or four years working on a product that did kind of what we were talking about, ingested real time data from a field, core, a track and layered it with historical data, from the same field, core, or track and predicted outcomes. Now prediction markets are this very buzzy popular thing you're hearing now. But the technology that I used to work on and helped launch at a global scale was able to in real time predict outcomes of smaller increments of betting opportunities. So not is are the Dallas Stars going to win the Stanley Cup? Not like a futures like that. It was, is Jamie Ben gonna score on this power play? Who's gonna win this face off? Or let's do baseball. Like, is Aaron Judge gonna score a home run at this at bat? Or is he gonna ground into a double play? And it would provide the probabilities or convert it into odds on a likelihood of that happening. And we did it for several sports, including NASCAR actually, which was very interesting. And what that allowed was for really the fastest odds to be applied to live betting. Live betting is pretty I mean, we'd Ziggy, if we were at a race, I would probably nudge you and say, hey, I bet that someone's gonna crash on lap one. And that's that's live betting. Right? The race has started. Right. Or I bet you, you know, Carlos is gonna overtake, let's say, George Russell in the midfield by lap 15. You know, like, there are all these these bets that can be happening where I specialize was in live betting and what was called at the time or still is called rather like micro bets. So small increments of time versus Yeah. Again, like a big future or who's going to win. That's boring to me. I wanna bet on the next five minutes or the next five laps. Isn't that boring to you? Because I'm a I'm a classic millennial. I'm all about instant gratification. So I'm like, am I gonna win this bet or not? I I have a bedtime. I need to be in my bed right now. I don't have time to watch the whole game. No. I just I I think it perfect I think it served not so much the the sharps and the experts on betting who've been betting forever. They're making plenty of money betting on those larger pre race or pre game type of bets or futures or whatever it is. But a micro bet to me was perfectly suited for a casual fan who is really betting probably largely more because there is an emotional thing. Like, I love the Yankees, but I'm never in my right mind gonna bet a large sum of money that they're gonna win or not on the World Series or a game. Like, I don't care that much. I like them, but not that much. I'm not gonna bet my mortgage, you know, on a on a win. But I might bet on a particular player or for the stars, you know, like, somebody I'm really inclined and really like. And so yeah. So what's interesting about that category is it just requires, obviously, naturally speed. Like, you need to be fast. The tech has to be fast, and you can only do that with machine learning and AI. So that was what I spent, yeah, four years working on across several sports, including motorsports like NASCAR. Gambling on races. Mhmm. Obviously, I know there is. But is it like I know you were talking about micro betting and things like that, but is it like spreads like, oh, Lewis is gonna finish in twenty seconds or less from first place or he's like, I guess because I saw on the screen, it was like plus 20, plus 10, plus one. And I know that's the seconds that they're from the leader. Right? But Mhmm. Does that count towards the spread? Like, if I picked Hamilton, I say, Ham's gonna finish in, you know, ten seconds behind the leader or better Yeah. Do I is that a is that how it works or is it like just basically you bet whoever's gonna win like horse racing? There I think I think it's actually evolving. I think to start, there was a lot of, like, who's gonna win, who's gonna finish in the top 10, who's gonna have the fastest lap, like, there was a lot of that. But with the advancements in in technology, like, you guys have to remember that PASBA was repealed in 2018, which was the regulation that allowed the states to decide about legalized betting. And with that repeal came innovation. So, like, now everyone's trying to figure out how to unlock what power there is from fans who want to bet. And so it's just getting faster and faster and smarter and smarter. So now there's in race betting, meaning once the race starts, there's odds that are updating in real time, and there's more markets than ever. So there's I mean, I've seen it now, are they sanctioned by the leagues all the time? No. There are some official betting partners. There's a lot of, like, offshore and illegal betting that happens on all these sports, but there is a pressure on the states to legalize so that they can regulate a little bit. The European markets are very different than than The US versus, like, even Australia has a limitation on live and micro betting. But for Formula One, they are there's a whole new category of of the actual league at the league level, people who are responsible for betting. And getting to talk to them, there is an emphasis on the live betting. So not just who's gonna win, you know, is Oscar gonna finish in the top 10? Who's gonna win the sprint race? It's not like that. There's actually a lot more, you know, battling it out in the midfield. It's a lot of the more just like binary type of picks where it's like, is this gonna happen? Yes or no? And then, of course, there's the big like, who's gonna win the championship? Those are still those are still around. Vegas loves those. And they have a Vegas race, so I think that's even more fitting for those. But the more data that becomes available and the faster platform like DraftKings or FanDuel is able to ingest that data and allow someone to bet, you're gonna see you're gonna see betting on on seconds like of the race. Yeah. And which is a challenge because of broadcast like that are now on Apple TV. And that's not linear, so that's not ESPN. That's a streaming only platform. And studies have shown that sometimes streaming delays can be something like thirty seconds behind real time. Oh my god. So you were seeing you saw who won the race probably thirty seconds plus to to me knowing. And that's like something to really consider. So you probably you were kinda talking about people maybe betting in the race. That's the best time because you're really in real time being able to have your phone and, they're at Hard Rock. Hard Rock has their own sports book. Florida's legal to bet. So like, they're probably making lots of bets in real time happening there. So you're gonna see more and more innovation on on motorsports betting. I worked on a on some projects for NASCAR where it was betting about stages and race leaders and who's gonna lead the next 10 laps of this race with live odds updating in real time, which was pretty fun. So I I just think you're gonna see more and more of it. And now with prediction markets, which is so funny to me is like, when I talked about predicting the outcome of the next play of baseball, people were like, that's cheating. People are gonna cheat. We don't do betting. And now there's like, Calci and whatever all the other prediction markets are everywhere. It's like speak that devilish evil name on this show. Oh, no. No. Yeah. So the whole I don't know if you were paying attention to the whole Giannis trade scenario where Giannis was supposed to be traded or was there were talks he was gonna be traded because shams was like, oh, it's almost certain that he's pretty much gone from Milwaukee. And he was playing the whole, I don't wanna leave, but if I don't wanna leave, but whole time he had money. He's an investor in Calci, and people were betting on whether or not he would leave through Calci. Millions of dollars were lost on that dude, and I Giannis has lost so much respect. Shams, I like, I I look at him for for news, but other than that, he's a crooked son of a anyway. But, yeah, so gonna see you're gonna see a lot of that's gonna con again, like, on the sports betting side, I worked with the leagues to make know, help inform like how things were gonna happen. There's gonna be a lot of shifts that we see in prediction markets. But like, I just told this story the other day and I can't remember if we talked about it, but I went to the the Lakers Mavs game the other day. And LeBron who like most people were at that game to cheer on LeBron. Luca was out, Austin Reeves was out. It's like every time LeBron does anything, people are going wild. I mean, like, one's even caring what the Mavs are doing. But the Mavericks have this thing where if the away team misses two free throws in a row, you get a free Chick fil A sandwich. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. And so, like, the whole the whole audience is betting. Right? They're like, oh my god. So I'm not joking. When LeBron missed his first free throw in a row, the crowd erupted like we had won a championship. That was like, okay, you know, alright. He misses the second one and people are crying. People are cheering. People are fist bumping. I saw somebody belly bump their son. And they're like, free Chick fil A. And they were losing their minds. And I just laughed so hard because what people don't know is this Chick fil A thing caused a ruckus in the sports betting world because Boban, I think it was probably three years ago Yes. He knew I don't even know where he was playing. He purposely missed two free throws, allegedly, and was like, I'm gonna get everyone tricked. If this game's gonna be done, I'm gonna I'm gonna let everyone get their Chick fil A sandwiches. And I'm not joking. The internal regulators of the sports betting, like, legalized sports betting, were losing it. They were like No. A problem. So You were losing money on this. And there's It was Miami. It was It was it was Boban in Miami because Miami does a Chick fil A thing. And then they they have a thing where for the Panthers so one time it had one time it happened this season or this last season, the heat and the panthers both had to give up like a chick fil a or chicken from chick fil a or whatever the case would be. But the chick fil a said no. Chick fil a was like, no. No. No. No. No. No. You come with one or the other. You're not getting both, fam. That's not how this works. So yeah. No. It's it's very crazy. It's very crazy. We don't agree with that here on this show because if we got the chicken nuggets, it's not fair you're trying to hide the chicken nuggets. Like, give us the chicken nuggets. Give us the chicken nuggets. I wanna see here this I wanna I wanna formula one bet where, like, if both cars DNF, everyone gets a free oil or everyone gets, like I don't know. Like, give me some like, give me something here. Give me something to juice. You know mean? But you know? Yeah. You know how much oil changes are right now? You would have massive stereo. People would throw shit on the track for a fucking a Yeah. Tank and Or or oil changes. What, man? Yes. So I do have a question though, like, after the safety cars and and so I have two questions and then I'm gonna let you go because you have been great and given us all this information now and I will contact you because I am now hooked and I wanna go to Austin. I wanna go to Austin, I wanna go to Vegas, but I think Vegas doesn't my schedule won't work for Vegas, but Austin is definitely on the list because Austin is in, like, October and Vegas is in November. But where it falls, I'll be doing the high rocks and I'll be doing and I'll be doing the cosign awards. So I can't do Yeah. I can't do it in November. But anyway, pits, you mentioned that it's strategic. Right? So when they go into the pit and they get new tires or get do they get fuel in the pit too? Right? They get fuel in there. Right? No. These cars no. The that was something that's evolved. This and, again, it's something different than the NASCAR and IndyCar. There there are no more fueling these cars in a pit stop because they're hybrid. They run Right. Very interesting and very powerful batteries. So, yeah, that's the that's the reason why they're two seconds long because it's just a very quick tire change. So do they keep their place when they do the pit stop, or is it like, oh, you gotta start from the back now and and work your way back up? Great question. And no. So you definitely don't get to you don't keep your place at all. The the race keeps going. Now if everybody pits at the same time, then that's a little bit different. But this is where that undercut strategy, safety cars, all this plays a factor. You definitely lose places. Now, if the nearest person behind you is twenty five seconds behind, which has happened, you could get a free pit stop. You can come out and still be ahead of that person. But more than likely, you're not in that type of situation, especially if you're at the front of the path. So, there's a cheaper pit stop under safety cars as an example, but in general, you lose quite a bit. Now, this is where the timing of that and, you know, there's been some drivers who've not pit until the very end of the race to abide by the rules of changing their tire compounds. And they ride out their tires so they're they're totally, you know, bald, they have no traction to them. And so for a second, it looks like they're they could win this race, but then they have to pit and it drops them back. So you can you can get far ahead if you try to to ride them out. The the challenge is is that when you're really battling with someone, you're you're close in proximity, so you're, you know, there's a second behind you or less. You're wearing your tires out in a different way than somebody who's way at the back, who's not really fighting for a position. And they're not really trying to overtake anybody. They're just trying to survive and get out of this race. You know, they're driving to survive if you will. They're just trying to finish the race. They don't they usually don't damage their tires quite as much as somebody who really rides them a certain way. So, if they're careful with their tires and the cars, you know, balance correctly, then they can go, you know, pretty well. But Matt Verstappen, the reason why he ended up hitting so early, twofold to me. One, it was kind of an undercut. It could rain. Not sure. I'm gonna get in early. And then secondly, when he spun, when he in that first lap, I thought he got hit by somebody. That was just purely him. Right. Maybe a tip. Maybe maybe a little bit of a tip. But when you do that, the speed that they're going, they'll create bald spots on the tires which become very hard for them to manage as the tires start to drain out or, like, to fade out. The degradation gets to be pretty bad. So you don't want any bald spots on the tires because you need that grip. So tire temperatures are very important. It's why they have those blankets on the tires. There's some regulation changes that actually increase the temperature blankets or the blanket, the tire temperature for those blankets can go up or down, and they try to keep them because they want them to be kinda grippy. Right? Like, they they wanna grip onto the to the ground. So if they're too cold, which is some people complain about the safety cars. Like, safety cars are going fast enough. My tires are cold. The track is cold. The you know, things are happening, and then they don't have that same amount of traction. So that's my last question. Because during the safety car situation, when they were on, like, the third lap, maybe fourth lap of the safety car and they knew the you could tell the safety car was like moving a little bit faster. They were getting ready to go. On the straightaways, I kept seeing them kind of zig and zag and they were kind of going like in between each other, not in between, but like yeah, in between each other going different ways. Was that to heat up the tires? Was or was that just oh, like this okay. Okay. So I did get that right. It is look at look at us. Exactly. That's really a a friction thing. Right? They're trying to to draw friction between the tires and the and the road that generates heat, maintain some of that temperature so they have more of that grip. The at the beginning of the race, you guys have ever watched, you know, the the broadcast, they'll show you the tire compounds. There's a soft, medium, and hard that there's a scale though. Sometimes the hard is a lot harder than it normally is. You know, like, there's like hard can be over here on this side or over here. So it really depends. And there's the hards will last longer because they're harder, but they take longer to warm up. So there's a challenge there. Softs are typically known to be the faster, but they are more likely to there no one's gonna finish a full race on a set of on a set of softs, which you can anyway with the regulations, but they they degrade a lot faster. So AWS usually is the one who powers like a pit stop strategy, and they'll tell you kind of, okay. If you make it 25 laps in, you'll go from a medium to a hard tire and you can finish the race on a one stop. Or they'll make a change and say, actually, you're gonna start on us on a medium and then you're actually gonna shift to a soft if there's not a lot of time, you know, a lot of laps left or whatever whatever. It's it varies. That's why people are paid as much as they are to make these race time calls. And, it's really really at the end of the day, it's a shit ton of physics. It's a lot of thermodynamics, and it's a ton of really understanding how energy is harvested between these batteries. That has been a big change. I don't know if you noticed Kimi Antonelli going from pull to dropping back. This has happened to Mercedes several times. Actually, every race this season, they've started at the front of the pack and have lost positions. They just cannot figure out their start. And it's a difference between the cars this year and last year. Ferrari has somehow figured out their starts. But it's really just it's it's just what it is is a formula, which is why it's formula one, is what is the formula of the build of these cars? There's a set amount of rules, and there's only a little bit of discrepancy that can happen from team to team. But in general, people can do this is are you ready for this? One time Lewis I'll never forgive these guys. Lewis and and Leclair were disqualified from a race because the underbelly of their car, there's like this board, was was often sized the size of like a credit card. And because it did not hit the the height that it needed to be, it was shorter than it needed to be, they got disqualified from the race so they lost all points. When they went from scoring points to no points because of it. And that's how hardcore they are on the rules around Oh. Really every piece of this car. It's pretty crazy. You can't be off weight. You've gotta be a certain weight. You've gotta be a certain height on some of these things. Like, it's pretty it's pretty nuts. We could talk about it all obviously, I could gab all day. I could yap all day. But No. So at end of day, it's just a formula of physics. No. Yeah. So and that's so I appreciate you coming on because, like, again, I was super super lost and I was sitting there and it was so funny because I was surrounded by majority women and then there was like gambler men and then there were old Spanish guys. It was I was I was around a bunch of Spanish people, right? Ain't no big deal, but I don't speak Spanish. So like, I couldn't just nudge him like, hey, what's that mean? Know what I'm saying? One or two guys that were sitting next to me, they left early. I think they lost a bet. So they said fuck it, we're go drink. And yeah, like, yeah, basically. And so me and her were lost. We were kinda like, what what are they doing here? So we were just drinking and vibing, having a good time, watching the race and everything like that. And it was fun. I'm hooked. I wanna go to another one. I actually wanna even bring my son to one, because it's just it's a good time and it's a lot to me to me. It was funner than NASCAR. NASCAR, I have I've been to NASCAR once or twice and I just you know, I think we've talked about this before that I just didn't I didn't vibe with NASCAR as much. But anyway, I'm gonna let you go. Oh, go ahead. Well, let me I'd like I was like, I'd love to I'd love to end on this. I'll I'll this is how I would rank. If you're new to motor sports in general and you're like, hey, like fast cars but I don't really know as much about it. I'll say that a really great entry point to just get familiar with how tracks and teams and anything like that work is a NASCAR race. You can get pit crew I mean, pit road access and garage access really quite easily. In terms of access, like NASCAR gets gets you pretty close to the game in a way that like the NFL would never, Even like the NHL, the access to the drivers, to the teams themselves, to the cars themselves. One time I turned a corner and I bumped into Michael Jordan and his whole team at NASCAR and I was like, don't feel like I'm allowed to be over here but I was. You could just literally bump shoulders with, not me because I'm miniature and Michael Jordan's a 100 feet taller than I am, but you can rub elbows with, you know, with the teams. IndyCar just had a race in Arlington. They previously raced at Texas Motor Speedway, but they did a street race through Arlington, the Arlington GP. And it gave people more visibility in a way that like f one has the Austin race, but it's pretty far for people. They don't. We haven't had a Dallas f one race since 1984. And it will never happen again because it was a disaster. If you ever wanna get a good giggle, the f one race in in Dallas in 1984 was a mess. They never came back. People were passing out. One guy got out of his car to try and push his car across the finish line because it had overheated, and then he overheated and passed out. So, like, it was not good. Things were not well. So IndyCar, I think is like another kind of it's it's a little bit of a higher price point, a little more access, maybe less access than NASCAR, but maybe a more European crowd. And then you have F1 where it is pretty elite in the sport. The price point is astronomical. They're charging so much. I mean, they charge $30 for people to go watch at an IMAX theater this weekend, which when you calculate it, it's like $30. Like, not I'm not even I'm not paying for a movie ticket for $30. This was a two hour race. Higher price point, more exclusive. These are the best drivers in the world. People fight for the 22 positions that are now on this grid. And the billions and billions of dollars that f one represents is something to be studied. And whether you care about sports or not, the business of f one is and the logistics of f one is what got me into it to start was I didn't really know much about the drivers. I didn't really know much about the sport, but I was like, how the hell do they move these guys around? Buy planes and ship things around the world. They were in Miami this weekend. They'll be in Montreal coming up. There are times where they go back to back. We had the reason why this race like again, Ziggy, you chose like the craziest race to go to. We've had a five and a half week gap between the last few races because of the war that's happening in The Middle East. They canceled two races in April. So the guys have had a lot of time. My guy Lewis Hamilton has had a lot of time to be gallivanting around the beach with Kim Kardashian. Oh my god. Another time, another place. Is he at the Met Gala? I've been waiting to see if he's if he's showing up. But. No. He's not. Yeah. Miami, you picked a really good punchy race to go to. I think I think Kimi Antonelli is an absolute star. Like that, he's the youngest world world champion contender to be like to be leading in this point. It's like, it's pretty incredible. So amazing to watch him. He took Lewis Hamilton's seat. I guess let me let me rephrase. He filled Hamilton's seat when Hamilton left to Ferrari. And for Ferrari for Lewis not to have won a race with Ferrari other than that sprint race and have Kimi Antonelli win three in a row is pretty crazy. So we'll save that for the next episode because I have a lot of history to go into on the dynamics of these teams and, like, what I think has gone wrong actually the last couple of years. Man, see, look, I'll be happy to have you. I'm gonna get all the Formula One information I can because I'm hooked. I'm going again. Anytime. So thank you again, Cristiana Yebra. You can find her on all on IG especially. See at c or at Christiana Yebra a k a c y. Mhmm. And this is beer thirty sports o'clock, and I think I love Formula One now. Welcome to the Formula One club. We'll be getting you some merch. I have let's see. This is a Stolen Water Media production.