Your Dark Companion

oice Champion: From Broadway Dreams to Battle Victories | Maelyn Jarmon |YDC Ep 220

May 5, 2026

Join Your Dark Companion hosts for an inside look at The Voice with Season 16 champion Maelyn Jarmon, a Dallas native who never actually watched the show before winning it. Discover how a singer with partial hearing loss navigated blind auditions, worked with coach John Legend, and battled through laryngitis on live TV to claim the title. Maelyn shares candid behind-the-scenes stories about song selection, record label challenges, and her journey from Broadway to reality TV stardom, plus her love for artists like Joni Mitchell and what’s next in her music career.
00:00:52 – Cold Open & Lightning Strike

The show begins with technical issues and weather interruptions setting an unpredictable tone.
00:02:01 – Episode Introduction & May the Fourth

Mike introduces episode 220 of Your Dark Companion on May 4th and discusses upcoming topics.
00:04:25 – Meet Maelyn Jarman, Voice Champion

Introduction of season 16 Voice winner Maelyn Jarmon and her initial reluctance to appear on singing competition shows.
00:06:17 – The Audition Journey Begins

Maelyn explains how The Voice reached out multiple times before she finally agreed to audition in Dallas.
00:08:22 – Behind the Scenes of Blind Auditions

Detailed explanation of how The Voice production works, including the four-day audition process and team selection strategy.
00:10:02 – First Impressions and John Legend’s Team

Maelyn describes her all-coach turn experience and choosing John Legend as her mentor.
00:13:33 – Music and Hearing Challenges

Discussion of Maelyn’s partial hearing loss and how it uniquely shapes her musical experience and performance style.
00:15:55 – Joni Mitchell and Musical Influences

Conversation about Maelyn’s favorite song “Both Sides Now” and her deep appreciation for Joni Mitchell’s artistry.
00:18:06 – Musical Background and Family Roots

Maelyn’s extensive musical history from childhood through her New York residency and Broadway aspirations.
00:21:16 – Performance Psychology and Nerves

How Maelyn approaches live performance anxiety and her philosophy of connection over competition.
00:24:29 – Song Selection Strategy

The challenges and compromises involved in choosing songs for The Voice performances.
00:27:51 – Life After Winning The Voice

What happens to winners after the show, including return appearances and ongoing relationship with the program.
00:36:05 – Theater Career and Musical Preferences

Maelyn’s return to musical theater and her selective approach to choosing meaningful projects.
00:42:21 – Taking Chances and Career Moments

Stories of bold career moves, including spontaneously auditioning for Ramin Karimloo.
00:44:13 – Record Label Challenges

The difficulties Voice winners face with major label contracts and the music industry business.
00:47:15 – Closing and Stolen Water Media Announcement

Episode wrap-up and information about the podcast network’s new centralized website.

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Speaker 1: Nobody would have thought that I would be the one. Ryder, sports talk? Baseball, baseball, baseball, Baseball. Baseball. Oh, with a big mic. Oh, okay. Alright. Yeah. Okay. Now I get it.

Speaker 2: We've had a lightning strike, boys. What happened over there, Grego? We had a little lightning strike right outside the window.

Speaker 1: Alright. Alright. Here's a tip for all these Americano late teams. Don't Wait. You said tip. Yeah. Tip. Okay. With a p. Keep jamming. It's all coming on coming your way no matter what. You can't do anything. You can't do anything to head it off. No. It's really sad. It is inevitable. It is completely inevitable. Well, happy

Speaker 2: Friday Monday to you too, Mike.

Speaker 1: Thank you. It is a happy freaking Monday. And it's another episode of Your Dark Companion. This is Monday, May 4. Isn't the May 5 something?

Speaker 3: No. The fourth is May 4 be with you.

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Speaker 2: we've already danced around the maple.

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Speaker 3: what I'm A lot that happens in May.

Speaker 1: Yeah?

Speaker 3: We have Mother's

Speaker 1: Day coming coming

Speaker 3: A lot of stuff.

Speaker 1: A lot of stuff. Yeah. Well, it is You're Dark Companion. This is episode number which? Two twenty.

Speaker 3: Two twenty. That's a good number.

Speaker 1: Two twenty of these things. 220 of them, man. Wow. So don't say we've never done anything for your ass. Okay? Because we've done two twenty 220 of these things. Today, we're going to delve into a world I've always wondered about, though not a particularly ardent fan or follower. I know it exists, And as such, I wonder about it because that's kinda that's kinda like me. What's going on over there? I

Speaker 3: don't know.

Speaker 2: Her gurus isn't here. Okay?

Speaker 1: She was Okay. If I stopped

Speaker 2: at Spotify. Just keep talking.

Speaker 1: Think I'm not Alright. Okay. Alright. Okay. Well, Shoopee's not here, and I'm a little out of whack. Throws me off a little bit.

Speaker 2: I think it was just a quieter beginning.

Speaker 1: A little quieter beginning than normal. That's fine. Yeah. Sure.

Speaker 2: Shut her up.

Speaker 1: Well, I've always wondered about shows like American Idol and, of course, The Voice and whatever other shows there might have been. I wonder about, like, you know, how it all comes about, what's it like actually getting on one. And today, I'm gonna find out because we have a voice season sixteen champion. In fact, we have the voice, the champion of the season sixteen with us. As things turn out, she is a local girl, more or less, and she is Maylan Jarman.

Speaker 3: That I am. Aw, thank you so much. Thanks y'all. Appreciate it. Well, hello. Thanks for having me.

Speaker 1: Well, thank you for doing this.

Speaker 3: I'm happy to be here.

Speaker 1: Well, I can't wait to hear your story. Now, I must say, I'm not an ardent follower of these shows.

Speaker 3: Can I tell you, Mike? I'm not either. I've actually never watched The Voice, be honest. Yeah, truly. I was so it was something that I I actually avoided for a long for a long time because I I felt like, you know, I worked really hard. I've been doing, you know, I was in New York since I was 17 and I was doing musicals and I was I had a residency, I was playing music all the time. I really wanted to, you know, work my way up and I was you know, I worked in a restaurant, I worked in a hotel and I had a children's music business and it was a lot. And I had the voice reach out to me.

Speaker 2: Oh. But I had the

Speaker 3: the voice reach out to me a few time few times on Instagram after seeing videos and I had said no a few times. And just because it's just a lottery and I don't I think music being in competition seems so backwards to me because it's so subjective. So that was something that I didn't feel.

Speaker 1: That is so true.

Speaker 3: Yes. And so I don't think it's fair to say that. Know, it's I don't think anyone is necessarily it's not a it's not a better, it's a preference. It's depends on your season, depends on the coach, depends on what people are liking at that time. So it's you can't go into it thinking this is going to define who I am as an artist because it can't. So I was looking at it as more of like you know what I've been grinding for so long and hustling for so long and they had reached out to me so many times and this one they were really persistent. And I had I had even missed the one they had originally done for me in New York and I because I was ticket supervising for the Governors Ball. And I lost my voice. And I was like, I can't make it. And then they said, we really want you to come and audition. And we have a date in Dallas. And they actually listed a couple and I said, my family is in Dallas. I called my mom and I was like, they want me to come and audition. I would skip that first couple of rounds, I would go straight to this round and she goes, bought your ticket, you're coming.

Speaker 2: And that was that?

Speaker 3: And I showed up and I almost didn't go that day either because I hadn't filled out an artist profile and I was like, it's fine, least I'm here, we got a little trip, my mom's like, You're going.

Speaker 2: So I think I found a little

Speaker 3: was funny, we were driving to it and I was in the backseat of my mom's car and a little she's a golfer, so she has sometimes little shots of things like peach schnapps. And for instance, for this one, was like,

Speaker 2: I'm just gonna take this little schnapps. I'm gonna go sing a couple songs for these people,

Speaker 3: and we'll see how it goes. And I went in, I sang, it was great. They had me do a little interview, and I was like, Okay. And I kind of said it and forget it, because I was like, There's so many There are thousands of people that go in for these and you just never know. And so you gotta kind of like do those things and not think about it. And then I was told that I got to the next round and then kept getting to the next round And I hadn't watched the show, so I had no idea about any of these things. And everybody made fun of me on the show because they were like, next round is battles. And I was like, what is that? That sounds scary.

Speaker 1: I Were they all put by the fact that you didn't watch the show? That you'd never seen it?

Speaker 3: No, not really. I think they were I think it was intriguing to some extent.

Speaker 1: You were kind of amused by it.

Speaker 3: Yeah, they were amused. John Legend who ended up so, you know, you do your blind audition and the story of that is that, you know, they have four days of blind auditions and, you it's a you have a whole month where you're out there quarantined in a hotel and they start picking people off. They start sending people home during that month. And so you're there and you're like, I could be sent home at any time. And then they decide I'm telling how the sausage is made, there's good chance I'm gonna get in trouble. And I don't know. But I will say that so they they have four days of blind auditions and they decide if you're on the first day, second day, third day, fourth day. You want to be on that first day because the teams could fill up, and if you're on that third day or whatever that is, have less chance of getting on a team. So I was told that I was on the first day, and you don't know when you're going to go. The coaches were Adam Levine, Kelly Clarkson, John Legend, and Blake Shelton. And I I was going in, it was John Legend's first season, and I would thought, if he turns, I wanna work with him because he'll be as new as I am. And think a great artist. And I like that he's a storyteller. I think we work well together. And so I ended up being the last of the day. Everybody was tired. Everybody was saying, Jon hasn't turned once. And I was like, great. And I remember that I

Speaker 2: was getting mic'd up and the guy was yawning in my face. I was like, everybody's tired. This is terrible.

Speaker 3: So there were no four chair turns. John hadn't turned at all that day. And then I got up and I sang, and, you know, in the when you're watching it you hear the big goosh whenever they turn. Yeah. They don't do that live because it would throw off the sound. So you don't hear that. And at some point I think I opened my eyes and I saw them all looking at me and I was like, oh god, they're all looking at me. I better end this well cause this is gonna be aired. And I remember finishing, and it was just a surreal moment. And they were, they were all watching me and and fighting for me to be on their teams, which is a crazy feeling. And then I picked John Legend. So I was the first on his team on his first season.

Speaker 1: Do you know right then that you'd killed it?

Speaker 3: No. I never think I kill it, Mike. Are you kidding? Ever. That's my mom. She's in the corner. She'll chime in here and there. But yeah, no, I mean, I thought I think in that moment I was really proud because I remember thinking I was going out there and a big thing for me is like, it's not about being impressive. It's about leaving an impression. Music is about connection. It's about you know, I think for me, I fell in love with music and I think a lot of people do when you hear something that makes you feel less alone in the world or somebody says something you're like, I didn't know other people felt that way or something that gives you words to something that you didn't have or I think music is just a is the is is a common connector and I I said I'm gonna go out there and I don't really care if I get a chair turn. I care if I can go out there and make myself proud and not worry about they're not coaches. They're not they're just people that love music, and I wanna connect in that way, that was what my goal was.

Speaker 2: So you weren't thinking about really trying to win. You just wanted to go out there and do the very best that you possibly could, as football coaches say, and see what happens.

Speaker 3: I was always just up against myself. It was just like, I go out there and show up and sing the way I want to and be as vulnerable as I want to in front of millions of people? Can I pull that off? Can I do what this I mean, it's like a boot camp? You have your rehearsals but you're also doing b roll every week. You're talking the whole time, you have interviews, you're shooting commercials. I mean the schedule is crazy and then you have to get up every week and sing live in front of millions of people and your voice has to be in shape. And I was like, can I I was more of just like, all right, this is your time to see if you've got what it takes to do this?

Speaker 1: What if it's not in shape? What happens if something goes wrong with it?

Speaker 3: And sure did. I got sick. I got laryngitis. And you have to go to the doctor and you got a I had a steroid shot. I had in ears go out during one of the performances. I'm deaf in one year, so it was my good year that went out. You you have to That's when you're like, okay, this when you have to kind of look inside and know why you're here and what you're trying to do here and give the best that you can under the circumstances. And it's all about connecting. And your body is the instrument, and that's You the hard gotta go with what it is.

Speaker 1: So now you are deaf in one ear and hard of hearing in the other.

Speaker 3: I have 80% hearing, so I have some loss in my left ear. But I've had it for so long that it doesn't even feel it's like an issue in everyday life because people are talking on this side and I can't hear what you're saying if you're talking on this side of me. Or when I'm trying to look for my phone, I'm going in circles because it always sounds like it's over there. But with music, you know, it's all about it's it's vibrations. And that, you know, it's an interesting thing because the way that music because, like, this music is soft, but I can hear that very well. And and it's about how it moves through the air. And so that I've never had an issue with music. It is the one place where it's like I can feel it. And sort of like when you're tuning a guitar, the more out of pitch you are, the faster the sound waves are, or the faster the vibrations are. And the more in the slower the waves are. So I've kind of that's how music flows through me.

Speaker 1: And like with the voice, you didn't have any problem getting around all that or anything? It was just get up there and do what you do?

Speaker 3: You gotta get up there and do what you do. Yeah. I had challenges, but I I was like, you gotta you gotta figure it out.

Speaker 1: Now can you tell us I may be asking too much here, if I am, tell me.

Speaker 3: Mike, I'm an open book.

Speaker 1: How does your hearing situation impact the way you can you tell us a little bit about the way you hear music on account of that?

Speaker 3: What? I'm just kidding.

Speaker 1: God, she's going, Oh, man, she hates you now.

Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that, like I said, it's sort of like, it's a full body experience for me because I've had to because it is like I'm relying not just on what I hear but what I feel. And so it's for me, it's like a it's it creates like when I I feel like there's this sort of like I'm gonna sound so cheesy saying all these things, but it it does feel quite like transcendent when I get to a place where if if in in songs or things that I'm really connected to, I feel like there's the just like a place that I go to where it just feels like this world and and I'm surrounded by the music and I and and it feels like painting sometimes.

Speaker 1: Yeah.

Speaker 3: And, yeah, it's a full body experience for me.

Speaker 1: What's a song that you're connected to?

Speaker 3: I would have to say that my favorite song of all time, and it's a hard and it's a crazy thing to have a favorite song of all time because I have so many songs I love. But there's one song that every time I hear it, it hits in such a deep place. And it's Both Sides Now, Joni Mitchell, and it's specifically in her later years, her voice deepens. And she's singing with an orchestra. And it I mean, I I literally am talking about it, I get chills because it's just it's that song that it it's so poetic and I feel like every time you hear it, you know, the the eight your different ages and things like that, it means something different. It's one of those timeless songs kinda like Hallelujah where the the lyrics can change based on where you are at in your life. And so I think Both Sides Now is maybe one of the most brilliant songs ever written.

Speaker 1: This makes me very happy because this is the first time that we've had the great Joni Mitchell mentioned

Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.

Speaker 1: Here on YDC.

Speaker 3: Gosh. And

Speaker 1: I She is her.

Speaker 3: I love her dearly. I think we were so we are so lucky to have had an artist like that.

Speaker 1: Everybody, all my friends and music colleagues make fun of me on account of it, but I don't care.

Speaker 3: I care her. Either.

Speaker 1: When it comes to music, you like what you like.

Speaker 3: You like what you like. And I will say that I connected more when her voice deepened. I connected more in age of where she had even more life experience and you can just feel it. So this is the this is the original. So this isn't the the I think it's like I don't even know if the one that's with the orchestra is on Spotify, but it's still it's a gorgeous song. Stunning.

Speaker 1: Yeah. So many of her songs just absolutely kill me.

Speaker 3: Yes.

Speaker 1: Like, Song for Sharon came up on my Spotify a few a couple days ago, and it's I almost had to pull over to to the side of the road and listen to it.

Speaker 3: River. Yeah. River's one for me. Yeah. Case of You kills me. That's when I sing all the time. So

Speaker 1: how did you feel when we haven't talked about how much performing you'd done before this. Yeah. Like like, had you ever performed music anywhere or been in plays Mine. Been in bands or anything like that?

Speaker 3: You wanna hear? Okay. Yeah. So my my dad is a guitarist, and I I came out singing with him. And so, you know, he was he sang seventies, sixties, eighties rock, and I came out and I was we were doing Pat Benatar. We were doing, you know, heart. I sang a lot of James Taylor with him. I fell in love with Allison Krause. I sang a lot of that. He had cover bands and I was always singing with him. And then my grandfather loved jazz, and so I was singing jazz with him all the time. He loved watching the old Rogers and Hammerstein's musicals, and I think growing up, don't think I saw film that was in color until I was about seven because we watched black and white films, and then we watched musicals all the time. So I was an old soul from a very young age. So I had a lot of

Speaker 1: Man, he sounds like one of my guys,

Speaker 3: for sure. Yeah. I listened to a lot of music. And I started in musicals when I was five. I was in choirs. I was in church singing. I did, again, my dad's cover band. I did touring shows where I did musicals or educational shows. I did Schoolhouse Rock. I would tour and do those. And then I also competed classically, so I studied classical as well. And it wasn't something that I felt super fulfilled by, but my voice coach at the time was a thing for him. I of did it as a favor because he was like, it looks good if I can do these things. And I was like, sure. It's still one of those things. It was like studying languages and things. I enjoyed that. I kept winning, so we just kept going with it. But it wasn't necessarily the thing that made me the most excited. And then I moved to New York, and I made friends with a music supervisor on Broadway. I got an agent. I was doing Broadway readings from the age of 17. I was doing live shows around New York all the time. And I had a residency at a music lounge where I sang for three hours every Wednesday night. I didn't play piano or guitar before that residency and he asked me if I did and I said yes. And I learned some songs in a week. I had to sing 45 songs and then that's where I learned guitar and piano. And then I started doing covers of songs. I loved doing songs that were written by men because I think putting the female perspective on it just flips it on its head and makes it more interesting.

Speaker 1: Was a song written by a man that you really like doing?

Speaker 3: I love doing I mean, I did love doing Hallelujah, which is my one of the songs I did on the show. Mhmm. I love doing Mad World by Tears for Fears

Speaker 2: Mhmm.

Speaker 3: That Gary Jules had then covered, which got famous from the Donnie Darko soundtrack. Then oddly, I I love to do Coldplay. I love doing Coldplay songs because I think they lend themselves really well to the female perspective honestly. But I've done a lot of them. And that's where I started loving rearranging things and finding my voice. And then I started writing music, and then that's kind of where it went.

Speaker 1: How many songs have you written?

Speaker 3: I've written a lot of bad songs, Mike. Good songs, I would say I could count them on one hand.

Speaker 1: That's that's the way it goes.

Speaker 3: Yeah. I

Speaker 1: understand these

Speaker 2: things. Yeah.

Speaker 1: That's just Yeah.

Speaker 2: It's part of the process.

Speaker 3: Sure is. Yeah, you gotta yeah. I want

Speaker 2: ask banana

Speaker 3: song in a lovely bowl the

Speaker 2: other day.

Speaker 3: Well, sounds like a great song. Send that to me.

Speaker 2: So

Speaker 1: were you nervous? Were you confident when it came time for you to sing before one of these these people that are about to judge you for the first time?

Speaker 3: It was I mean, the the interesting thing is I'm always nervous before I get on a stage. And then something happens.

Speaker 1: Don't you think that's good?

Speaker 3: It's a good thing. Yeah. Yeah. Because then I yeah. Think I everything goes away and and it's I think it's like a great equalizer in some ways because it's like at some point it's not didn't really care that I was singing for John Legend. I didn't really care that I was singing for them. It was it was about anybody listening. It was about connecting with any they just all it all becomes, you know, listeners and and you're you're sharing an experience together.

Speaker 1: Yeah.

Speaker 3: And it was an interesting thing because, you know you never you don't know how you're gonna respond until you're actually in the space or in the room or you know with John Legend he was quite hands on and you would be told that you're going on to the next week. On Tuesday nights they'd have their results nights. So you were then told that you're you've made it and they would pick a song or they pick like a few songs and John Legend would pick a song and he'd send it to you. And then he'd have me come to his trailer and we'd talk about it. And I said no to him a few times on songs, which I never didn't I think that that would be a thing that I would do was say no to be say no to John Legend but I was like, that's not I'm not feeling that one. He was like, interesting. Okay. And then I would go home because we would have that Tuesday night we were told what song it is and we'd have our first band rehearsal on Wednesday morning. And I wanted I always wanted to make sure that I was going in with ideas and making sure that my voice would be heard. So I would stay up late on Tuesday night and I would pick my key, I would pick an arrangement, I'd pick the cut of the lyrics that I would want that would, you know, make sense the most for me. And I would go into band rehearsals and I'd have everything like planned out. And John Legend, he actually told me, because I saw him April, I'd gone to his studio and I was showing him some of my songs and and he was like, I haven't had an, this was a very nice thing because I didn't think about it and then he he said it but he said, I haven't had a contestant like you since since you were I haven't had a team member like you where you you came in and you knew exactly what you wanted. And he was like, I didn't really have to coach you at all. And you felt like a peer to me. And I was like, that's such a huge Wow. Compliment. It was that was so huge because I didn't really think about it like that. That's just how I I had been doing it for so long and I knew what I liked. I knew what I wanted. I knew what made me feel something and if all I knew was that if I wasn't feeling something, nobody would. So that was always my my biggest thing was how do I do this to where I I am connected the most to it.

Speaker 1: So that leads me right into the next thing I wanted to talk about, and that's how you decide on the songs you wanted to do, but I think you just pretty much laid it out right there.

Speaker 3: Well, was kind of a hard thing though too because you don't have access to every song. It depends on what they have the rights to. It depends on how long it's been since they've done a song. And so you have a limit. And you also there was a point where I had to compromise, and I did a couple of songs that, you know, John Legend was really sure about. And I was like, okay, here's the challenge for me. I'm gonna do this and make it work for me, and find a way to connect to it and make it mine. And then that was a fun challenge, because it's like, Alright, you can't always just say no. Sometimes you have to say yes, and then find a find a way to really genuine like, do the work to make it work.

Speaker 1: What song was that?

Speaker 3: That was Stay by Rihanna.

Speaker 1: Okay.

Speaker 3: Yeah. That was one that I was, like, on the fence about. And and I was like, it's, you know, a song that's done by a woman first of all and it's like there the comparison's already there and there's not much you can like do to like deviate from it or or make it interesting and I was so I guess he was like, this is the one I think you should do and I was like, okay. Well then, I've got some work to do. How do I how do I make this feel good in in my body? And then I had to commit to that. Because then once you've done that, you can't you then have to love it because you have to find a way to love it.

Speaker 1: And did you get there? Yeah. Where you did find a way to love it?

Speaker 3: Well, that was the week that I got laryngitis and my my ears went out. And so it was it was the full it was like, this is a big test for you. And I got up there and, yeah, it maybe wasn't my favorite performance, but there was also a moment where you have to be like, alright. I'm human, and I'm not always going to give the performance that I want to. It it so many people messaged me and said that that was one of their favorites, and I still look back at it and I don't I don't love the performance, but it still touched people and it still made its way. And it was a moment for me to be like, alright, it's okay for you to make mistakes and this is a big stage and so it's hard to make mistakes because so, especially with this day and age where everything is under a microscope and everybody thinks they can say anything about anything. So, you know

Speaker 1: Did you grow to understand what it was that people liked about it and what made them like it? Or do you still kind of wonder about it today?

Speaker 3: Music is subjective. I think at some point it was like I mean, I did feel it and I think that I I think it was I think that I had gotten to a place where I think it was an interesting thing when my ears went out and I had was and I had laryngitis. I think there was something in me that was like there was like almost like a fight in that performance and I think maybe that's what touched people, I'm not sure.

Speaker 1: You had to push through.

Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe, yeah.

Speaker 1: Seems like, you know, the the choosing the the right songs for you, it just seems like that's such a critical part of the whole process.

Speaker 3: Oh, it is.

Speaker 1: I mean, it's like that's like everything.

Speaker 3: Yeah. It's it is everything and and and I think that I think we were strategic in the sense that every song had I I think for me, when you have one song to do, you have to have a whole contour. It has to have a whole story within that song. And there has to be, you know, there like, you have to know what the stakes are in it. You have to know where you wanna go with it. There has to be a release at some point. There has to be tension. There's, like, push and pull. And I think that that's

Speaker 1: But not all songs have that, though.

Speaker 3: If I had to make it I had to make it happen. Even if that song didn't have that, I was gonna find a way to make that happen. That's what I that is what I did. Wow. That's what I was at least, that's what I hoped to do. That was my my efforts were going towards that for sure, and still do, and I have.

Speaker 1: So now once you win The Voice, do they just cut you loose or do they bring you back for certain things or what happens next?

Speaker 3: They brought me back. I've been so fortunate. They brought me back even the season after to come and talk to some of contestants that were auditioning and then they came back and did a Christmas song on their because they have one of their seasons ends in November, and so all the Christmas songs are coming out. So I I went up and I did Have Yourself A Merry Christmas. And then they had me back. I did my, original song Dreamboat on that, like a year ago

Speaker 1: Mhmm.

Speaker 3: Like right now. And then, I was just back for the battle of champions, where we pre taped in September, but it just aired, April 6. And they had me go up against another champion, and it was a a battle, and I I won, which was nice. It was surprising.

Speaker 1: What is it like coming back on The Voice after you've been on there, you've won, you've put something out, you've had a little success with that, and then you come back. What's it like coming back?

Speaker 3: I mean, I my favorite thing about The Voice and and you know, I was I was so when I'm performing, I really am like so regimented. I am in my hotel room. If I'm not doing b roll or anything like that, I was, like, resting. I was drinking water. I was on vocal rest. So a lot of the friends I made were the producers, the stage hands, stage managers. And so when I go back, it feels like seeing family because I just made so many friends there and I loved them all so much and that that was a big thing. And but going and performing felt great. I mean, was so exciting, but I will say going back as a contestant again was a little bit like, oh, I haven't been in competition in a long time or since I was on and that was a different I was like, I gotta get back in the headspace of I'm even though I was not competing for myself, I was competing for for my coach, I still had to be like, I I don't really care about winning. I care about going out there and making myself proud and doing something that I love and and enjoying the moment for what it is.

Speaker 1: Was it hard to get back into that headspace?

Speaker 3: Yes. It actually was. It was a hard thing because, you know, you have these, like, champions up there, and and it had been a a minute since I was in that, but I I did get there with it. But, yes.

Speaker 1: Alright, this is Malin Jarman. Sorry I stumbled there.

Speaker 3: Please don't be. Mike.

Speaker 1: She is the season 16 champion of The Voice, which happened in 2019. And we'll have more with her coming up in just a second, so if you need to chill out for just a little bit here

Speaker 3: Okay, sure.

Speaker 1: You can do that, you can just kind of relax. I know I'm making you tense.

Speaker 3: I'm so tense. Yes. I need to relax. I'm gonna

Speaker 1: go. I I have that effect on you.

Speaker 3: You really do.

Speaker 1: So you can just chill out for a second because I've got something else I have to do here, namely the dreaded and feared mid show read. Duh. Duh. Duh.

Speaker 3: Scary.

Speaker 1: It is scary. You don't know how scary it is. Alright. What do we got here today?

Speaker 3: How's it going?

Speaker 1: Okay. Alright. I have here on the table, partly to give them a little love and mostly because I like knowing where it is at all times because I kinda use it these days. This is a full spectrum salve stick from the CBD house of healing. Now if you are roaming around this world in some sort of pain, you need to go to the house of healing and look into this. I know it doesn't look like much. You may think, there's nothing going on there. Well, there is, and that something going on can help you feel better. The reason I know this is because these days, I walk around in a goodly amount of pain myself. I'm not sure from what, why it's there, where it's going, what it's doing. All I know is when I feel it, I wanna get rid of it. And this helps me do it. And I mean it seriously helps me do it. Now if it'll do that for me, it'll do it for you too. And if you're wandering around in pain, there is no reason for that. What you need to do is go by the CBD House of Healing, which is located at Northwest Highway and Plano Road, the northeast quadrant of that burgeoning intersection. Go by there, check it out for yourself. The owner of the CBD House of Healing is a registered nurse. Believe me when I tell you, this is not some head shop I'm sending you into. Now if you like that kind of thing, well, they can they might can be be able to hook you up there. I don't know what the laws that are intact today look like. It seems to change from day to day, but that's for you to figure out for yourself. What I'm telling you is if you are hurting, the CBD House of Healing can and will help. Go try it out. Tell him you heard about it from me here on YDC and start your healing process at the CBD House of Healing. Oh, it is? Yeah. I

Speaker 2: didn't see that. Okay. But now I do. Let

Speaker 1: me tell you a little bit about the Eric Nadel birthday benefit concert that is celebrating its fourteenth edition by featuring two of Eric's favorite bands. Now I don't know if you know this about Eric, but he is a real hardcore music nerd, and I mean that in the best possible way. He doesn't like what's playing on the radio. He doesn't like what everybody else is into. He likes what he is into. And he looks around for stuff that he likes, and he's found a couple of bands that he's bringing in for this. Brooklyn based Sammy Ray and the Friends, and Bay Area favorite Chuck Provett and the Coobiya shoes. Now you know this?

Speaker 3: I know Sammy Ray.

Speaker 1: Do

Speaker 3: you? They're fantastic, yes.

Speaker 1: Alright. That is an unrequested endorsement right there, but No, very no, very glad. That's great. I mean, you probably gave it a better endorsement than I

Speaker 3: ever could. Yeah,

Speaker 2: same Now this

Speaker 1: is all coming down Thursday, May 14, doors open at 06:30, Downbeat is at 07:30, and it is at the Longhorn Ballroom. Now that right there should be enough to get you into this thing because the things that they have done to the Longhorn Ballroom to get it up and running again are just incredible. I've been to one show there and actually played at another. Yes, I did. I did. Oh. And I can tell you, the Longhorn Ballroom is a splendid, splendid venue. Now this benefit supports the work of the Grant Halliburton Foundation. That's a local nonprofit that provides mental health education, training, and support to teens and families. To learn more and purchase tickets, go to grandhalliburton.org/ericnadell. Sponsor tables and suites are also available. Come see the YDC team on the purple carpet, Eric Nadell's birthday benefit presented by Haynes Boone and KXT ninety one point seven FM, featuring Sammy Ray and the friends with special guest Chuck Proffitt. Go to grandhalliburton.org/ericnadel or go to stolenwatermedia.com/ourcommunity for more information on all that. I know that's a lot of .com stuff and this and that and everything, but just go. Just go. You'll have a big time there. It's always great. And like I say, just seeing the Longhorn Ballroom is just a incredible thing. Alright. Now, back to this fascinating chat that we're having with Malin Jarman.

Speaker 3: What? I mean that. Okay. Great. Oh, good.

Speaker 2: Good. Good. Good. Great. Yay.

Speaker 1: I don't I don't I don't throw things down like that if I don't mean it.

Speaker 3: I I trust that, Mike.

Speaker 1: I'm not that kind of guy.

Speaker 3: I see that. I see that about you. Like that about you.

Speaker 1: Seventeen minutes.

Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. Let's go. Whoo.

Speaker 3: There's nothing better than that guy.

Speaker 1: Let's see. Do we talk about the things that they bring you back for once you win The Voice yet?

Speaker 2: We did do that. Okay. We've covered that.

Speaker 1: Okay.

Speaker 3: And you can find your healing stick here.

Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you can.

Speaker 3: I actually, I played Topgolf yesterday and so I was like, oh, interesting. When you said that, I was like, my neck's starting to hurt a little bit. Well here. Dotcom, mom.

Speaker 1: Is the ticket, that's it. So, you record new music, you perform live, you also got into the theater scene.

Speaker 3: Yes.

Speaker 1: What can you tell us about the theater scene that you've been in?

Speaker 3: The theater scene. Yeah. It started out in musical theater, and I, you know, I moved to New York for it. And I I did kind of fall out of love with it because of there's I think the comparison of it all and just it's it's even the competitive nature wasn't why I do music. It didn't feel quite right to me. But I will say that, you know, it's it's still a root for me. I I love acting. I love I like when it all comes together and I think there's there's like a something that that's that's in me that that still wants to do that. There are certain shows. I mean, it's hard now because I mean, to be honest, I don't love a lot of new musical theater. I love, you know, Sondheim was I think just a brilliant brilliant

Speaker 1: The guy.

Speaker 3: The guy. And I would say that probably in over the last I don't know how long I would say that Jason Robert Brown is one of my favorite as well. But, you know

Speaker 1: Now what would a pagan like me know about him?

Speaker 3: Well, I don't think he would I I mean, maybe wouldn't. But but I will say what I like about it. So I I think that I I enjoy going to see the big shows that have all the jazz hands and things like that. I like things that feel very human, and I like things that you go to and when you leave, you're really thinking about yourself and about life experience and things like that. And I will say Jason Robert Brown has a really great way. I actually did a show, one of my first shows back into musical theater. Was called The Last Five Years. I think it's the perfect show. It is an hour and a half long and it's all songs and it's about a it's a two hander. So that's just two it's a married couple. Well, it's about their divorce actually. And it's it she my character when I you know, it's Kathy and Jamie and she starts at the end of their relationship and he starts at the beginning and then they go like this. And they have where they meet in the same timeline in the middle of the show, and then she goes to the beginning of the relationship and he goes to the end. So they have songs that they switch off and their timelines are changing. And it's That sounds so fascinating. It's brilliantly done, and there are such it's one of those shows that you go into it and you think about their dynamics and what, you know, she's saying about the relationship and what he's saying about it and you think about it and you're like, there's really no one to blame here. There's accountability on either side and I I just I like shows that make you think like that. And so I think for me, I I like it when there's something gritty to it, when there's something real and that's really what I'm interested in. But I I did do recently, I went out and did, Jesus Christ Superstar in Sacramento at Broadway at Music Circus, I was Mary Magdalene for that. And and it was it's fun. It's I like I'm a I'm a I have an I'm a kid at heart, and so playing dress up and getting to, like, go on stage and, you know and and I I I there's something that you know in me that really loves doing that and so it was fun because it was you know I'm stretching my legs in that way again that you know I haven't done in a while and I there is still something in me that wants to do that but I think I'm very I'm I'm particular about what it will be.

Speaker 1: Yeah.

Speaker 3: And you know, I think there's a lot of these musicals that are like movies that are being made into musicals and all these things that are jukebox musicals that they don't I'm not saying that they're bad, I think that they're they're great. I don't feel that that's right for me as an artist. I don't feel fulfilled doing that type of that type of musical. So I feel like I'm waiting for for the thing that's like this this is

Speaker 1: Do you think that might be something you grow into?

Speaker 3: As far as wanting to do Yeah. No. Gotta be honest with you, Mike. Unless it was like That's

Speaker 1: what I wanted.

Speaker 3: Unless it's like camp that's done in a really good way, you know, like Clue kind of camp or like that kind of stuff. Like, I feel like that I'm I could be interested for very self aware kind of like comedy like that. Feel like that's something that I I would really enjoy. But as far as like as far as those big musicals, I I don't know that that's ever gonna be me. Yeah. But yeah. But I I I would, you know, I'm getting back into musical theater and and and sort of but I'm still doing my music at the same time and Yeah. I'm kind of just putting it all out there. I also love acting and I've been getting back into doing like film and TV auditions and things like that and wanting to do more of that as well. So yeah.

Speaker 1: Where do you live? Do you live here in our Fairburg?

Speaker 3: I sure don't. I I live I live in Brooklyn, New York.

Speaker 2: So at some point, you said screw it all, I'm moving to New York.

Speaker 3: When I was 17.

Speaker 1: When you were 17.

Speaker 3: That's when I started doing Damn. I know. That's when I started doing What

Speaker 1: stones you have

Speaker 3: in Brooklyn? I will say, Mike, that the biggest things that I have gotten have been in moments there was a there was a, like, a famous musical theater guy. His name is Ramin Karamwoo, and he was the Phantom of the Opera in the West End. He was, Jean Valjean on Broadway. He was, like, I I was probably I think I was 19 at the time, and I'd gone to see him 18 maybe. I'd gone to see him at a show in New York, and I he's one his voice is unbelievable, and he we saw his show, and then afterwards, he was doing a meet and greet. And I said I met him, and I said, I think I'm I'm pretty sure I'm gonna sing with you someday. And he said, oh, you you are? And I said, and he said, sing me something. I said, okay. And I sang him like 16 bars of a song and he said, okay, be here tomorrow night. This is that BB Kings in Times Square. He's like, be here tomorrow night and know these two songs. And I said, you got it. And we learned I learned those two songs and went and sang with him and then he took me on tour with him to be a featured vocalist. But it's things like that. I mean, those are the moments that like you that's when you get the the biggest it's it's it's those spur of the moment kind of things that that can get you yeah. I can change it your life in a moment.

Speaker 1: I can't imagine a bigger high than that.

Speaker 3: It's true. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And you just kinda you just you do it and I think that's the I think people are afraid to ask for things and and I think if you just if you if you send the message, send the email, the thing, and you reach out, you're like, oh, that'll never happen. But if

Speaker 2: you just do it, if

Speaker 3: you just ask, you never know what they may not respond, but they may.

Speaker 1: So what's the next thing you've got up your sleeve?

Speaker 3: Oh, let's see here. I am I'm

Speaker 1: speaking metaphorically.

Speaker 3: So I just released a couple of songs after, you know, to coincide with the Battle of Champions. And I will say, you know, after The Voice, you you get you get pushed into this big contract with a big label, Republic Records. And it is notorious that winners don't do much after they win because it's a it's hard to go into a big label when you've gotten notoriety for doing covers because you don't they don't know who you are as an artist. And then they try to tell you who you are as an artist, and that's just never going to work. Especially with now what it is when you're posting on social media and you can create your own fan base in a very organic way. I don't think that labels necessarily can do artist development like they used to be able to do. It's just not what it is anymore. So I think that I I mean, I have notes for The Voice. If they ever asked me, I would be like, this is what I think you should offer. But it's a hard con you have to get out of the contract. It takes a while, and COVID happened. That was a big momentum stopper that oh, this is my song Dreamboat. And then I got signed to a new label and there are just things that like are out of your control. There are things that, I mean, I've been pushing for so long and and it's just it's been a hard a hard couple of years, but it's you know, collaboration can be difficult and finding the right people to work with and all believing in a thing and and making

Speaker 1: It's gotta be very middle in a haystack It is. Where it Finding the right guys

Speaker 3: Oh, it is so or

Speaker 1: the right people.

Speaker 3: And it's a relationship and you to understand each other on a very specific level. You have to speak the same language and you have to know that there are I mean, it's just like any other relationship, any friendship, any any relationship in your life where you have to learn to compromise and communicate in a very transparent way.

Speaker 1: I hate those.

Speaker 3: Unfortunately, they're inevitable, Mike. I hate to tell you. But, yeah. So it's been a road, but I'm now coming back to the I had gone through a really bad breakup, and I had gone through a lot of personal things that took me away from doing the the music that I wanted to do in the time that I wanted to do it, but, you know, here we are. We've learned and I'm I'm back into writing. I'm back in the studio. I'm releasing music. I'm performing more and something I'm really grateful for is that, you know, I've I'm an ambassador for Children's Miracle Network. I get to perform for charities all the time and that feels really great. And I get to do this for a living and I'm so grateful. And I'm I'm now coming back to it in in a bigger way than I have in a while.

Speaker 1: When you come back to Dallas?

Speaker 3: Well, momma's here, so I gotta come back a good amount because I gotta see my momma. Yeah. My family's here, that's right.

Speaker 4: I come back. I mean, I'm least here

Speaker 3: for holidays and then sometimes, you know, if I like, I just had an event here on Saturday and that's always fun when the the trip home can be paid for.

Speaker 1: So that's what got you here today.

Speaker 3: Sure is, Mike.

Speaker 1: Alright. Well, it's been a blast talking to you.

Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me. It's been a pleasure.

Speaker 1: I really appreciate it. We've never had anyone quite like you or or terribly involved in that field.

Speaker 3: I'm terribly involved, aren't I?

Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. I'm so I was say you're knee deep in it.

Speaker 2: I feel neck deep, but thank you so much. Yes.

Speaker 1: Alright. She is Meilin Jarman. Watch out for her.

Speaker 3: Watch out. Thank you so much. Thanks, Mike.

Speaker 1: Got something. Alright. That'll do it for Lil YDC for today. Anything else we need to touch on here?

Speaker 2: Just remind people to go to the website. There's one on their Patreon.

Speaker 1: Okay. Alright. Gotta tell you about the website and the Patreon here. Okay. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

Speaker 2: You get on to me every day and say

Speaker 1: something like, where's my I I don't I don't get on to you every day. Just on days like this when we're doing a podcast, that's when I do it. Alright. Let me let me

Speaker 3: find teleprompter.

Speaker 1: Let me find it because this this is important.

Speaker 3: Asked it, didn't

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Speaker 2: it's a website.

Speaker 1: A website, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I don't know. Look.

Speaker 3: Look. Happy Monday. Happy Monday.

Speaker 1: That's technical shit. Yeah. Yeah. It is.

Speaker 2: I'm not here for that.

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Speaker 2: No. No website. Website.

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